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"This is Undaunted Life" a man's podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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And let's go ahead and get into the episode for today because on episode 243, that was
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the episode normalizing pedophilia, your kids classroom and library that was released a
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week ago.
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I had a throwaway line, what I thought to be a throwaway line where I mentioned that recently
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the National School Boards Association sent a letter to co-president Biden and the rest
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of the White House saying that they wanted the federal government to send federal law
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enforcement to school board meetings to address this supposed growing number of threats of
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violence and acts of intimidation across the nation, blah, blah, blah, right?
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Again, it was a throwaway line, like I just kind of mentioned and then moved on.
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You may have even missed it, but that story has continued to expand after the beginning
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of last week because I recorded the episode, I guess a week before I released it and it
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just kept coming out and kept growing and kept growing.
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But if you miss out on all that and you have no idea what I'm talking about, let me go
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ahead and catch you up to speed.
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So as you've known, all spring, all summer and into this fall, parents have been going
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to school board meetings across the country again, there's thousands and thousands of
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school boards to fight back against things like mask mandates in schools, you know, vaccine
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mandates, which are coming around a lot now, critical race theory being taught in the classroom,
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actually explicit or perverse materials in their kids' classrooms and libraries, et cetera,
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et cetera, right?
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Now I went through several examples of this on episode 243.
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So you should definitely go listen to that.
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It might actually serve as a really good primer for the episode that we're going to do today.
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So if you haven't listened to 243, make sure you do that.
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But here's the deal.
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The National School Boards Association did send that letter directly to co-president Biden
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on September the 29th, 2021, and it claimed that their educational leaders are under quote
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and immediate threat, unquote, okay, so what they asked for, they asked for federal law
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enforcement officers to help school boards deal with, quote, the growing number of threats
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of violence and acts of intimidation occurring across the nation, unquote.
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So they even go so far as to ask the Department of Justice to DOJ to use the Patriot Act to
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help.
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You know, the Patriot Act, the Patriot Act, which was created during Bush, the Younger's
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administration to prevent another 9/11 and to prevent homegrown domestic terrorism.
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They want them to use the Patriot Act as it pertains to parents.
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Interesting.
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We'll definitely spend a lot more time on that here in a second, but on Monday, October
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the 4th, 2021, Attorney General Merrick Garland responded to that letter, validated the list
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of concerns and vowed to use the power of the federal government to crack down on what
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he calls, quote, violent threats against school officials and teachers, unquote.
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And we're going to get really, really into that.
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But he just as an aside, aren't you so glad that Merrick Garland is not on the Supreme
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Court right now?
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I mean, we were told by Barack Obama, who's obviously the most trustworthy person ever
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because he was really good at speeches, right?
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But this guy was told that he was told to us that he was going to be a moderate.
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This guy was going to be a moderate and he's been anything but now that he's the chief,
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you know, law enforcement officer in the country, right?
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And this is an authoritarian push, which we're definitely going to get it more into here
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in a second.
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But there was a lot of reaction to this letter from Merrick Garland.
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So conservatives and Republicans, they hate it obviously in leftists and Democrats.
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They love it.
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But there were House Republicans led by representative Chip Roy of Texas.
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They sent a letter to the Biden administration and A.G. Garland calling the memo an effort
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to weaponize the DOJ and to curb constitutional rights.
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He has US Senator Rand Paul, who's been a gangster as of late, but he's a Senator from Kentucky.
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He said that and this is a quote, quote, "Mom's at school boards are being told that their
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criminals, potential domestic terrorists for the crime of dissent."
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And I think criminalizing dissent is something that we should all be appalled with, unquote.
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And then you also had the Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmidt.
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He said this quote, Biden's Department of Justice is weaponizing its resources against
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parents who dare to advocate for their children.
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This dangerous federal overreach imposes a chilling effect on free speech by criminalizing
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dissent.
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He always advocate for parents and will continue to push back against unprecedented federal
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overreach, unquote.
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But then the CEO of the NSBA, right, the National School Boards Association chip slave and he
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had this to say he loved it.
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So here's his quote, quote, the individuals who are intent on causing chaos and disruption
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in disrupting our schools, many of whom are not even connected to local schools are drowning
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out the voices of parents who must be heard when it comes to decisions about their children's
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education, health and safety.
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These acts of intimidation are also affecting educational services and school board governance.
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Some have even led to school lockdowns.
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The U.S. Department of Justice swift action in response to NSBA's request as a strong
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message to individuals with violent intent who are focused on causing chaos, disrupting
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our public schools and driving wedges between school boards and the parents, students and
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communities they serve.
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We need to get back to the work of meeting all students needs and making sure that each
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student is prepared for a successful future, that's what school board members and parents
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are about.
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That's what they care about, unquote.
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This guy, I mean, he's basically like Jesus, this guy, he just, he cares about our kids
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so much and he can't keep having these people, these parents that that certainly don't care
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as much about their kids as he does, getting in the way, he just can't have that anymore.
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Okay.
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But one thing I want to do here is I actually want to break down the letter from the NSBA,
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the National School Boards Association, to co president Biden.
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Okay.
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Now it is several pages long and I'm not going to do all of it.
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I'm just going to pull out a few sections and I'm going to leave a link to the letter
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in the show notes because if you think I'm, you know, categorize anything differently
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or presenting it to you inaccurately, you can read it for yourself, but here are some
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of the highlights.
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Here's the first one.
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This is a quote, quote, local school board members want to hear from their communities
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on important issues and that must be at the forefront of a good school board governance
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and promotion of free speech.
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However, there also must be safeguards in place to protect public schools and dedicated
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education leaders as they do their jobs, unquote.
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So here's the thing about that.
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They want to hear from the communities and they want to promote free speech and have
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proper governance as long as it's 100% in agreement of what they want to do.
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So basically what they're saying in that section is they 100% want you to come and have your
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voice heard if you agree with them.
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But if you don't, they're going to categorize you differently, right?
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They're going to talk about how we need to put safeguards in to protect our people that
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that's kind of the, the, the, what's actually being said there.
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That's what's undergirding the things that they're saying.
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So let's go to another section here, quote, as these acts of malice, violence and threats
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against public school officials have increased, the classification of these heinous actions
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could be the equivalent to a form of domestic terrorism and hate crimes.
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As such in SBA requests a joint expedited review of the US Department of Justice's education
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and Homeland Security, along with the appropriate training, coordination, investigations and
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enforcement mechanisms from the FBI, including any technical assistance necessary from and
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state and local coordination with its national security branch and counterterrorism division,
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as well as any other federal agency with relevant jurisdictional authority and oversight.
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Additionally, in SBA requests that such review, exam, examine appropriate enforceable actions
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against these crimes and acts of violence under the gun free zones act, the Patriot
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Act, in regards to domestic terrorism, the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Junior Hate
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Crimes Prevention Act, the violent interference with federally protected rights statutes, the
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conspiracy against rights statutes, and executive order to enforce all applicable federal laws
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for the protection of students in public school district personnel and any related measure.
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As the threats grow and news of extremist hate organizations, showing up at school board
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meetings is being reported.
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This is a critical time for a proactive approach to deal with this difficult issue.
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So there's a lot there, but let's go into the things individually.
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Let's go right back to the beginning here and there was this quote.
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As these acts of malice, violence, and threats against public school officials have increased,
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the classification of these heinous actions could be the equivalent to a form of domestic
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terrorism and hate crimes.
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So, translation with the in SBA is saying that when a parent gets up and threatens to
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get the person kicked off the school board to demands that they resign or demands that
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they remove pedophilic pornographic books from their kids library, that that could be the
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equivalent to a form of domestic terrorism and hate crimes.
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I mean, my goodness, the hoops that the lawyer that wrote that sentence had to go through
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my, I mean, because it's again, actions could be.
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There's your first one, the equivalent to a form of there's your second one in the domestic
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terrorism and hate crimes.
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It is absolutely astounding that they would even say something like that, but again, you
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could even see in that sentence that they're trying to cover their butts because parents
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are probably going to sue them for this and, you know, God help them.
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I hope they win.
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I hope they take them for everything they're worth, but then you saw there towards the
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end of that segment, they were talking about several different acts and, you know, government
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laws and different things and you're like, wait a minute, how do these things apply?
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So let me run down which each one of those things were again, because I mentioned them
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kind of quickly and say what they are.
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So there was the gun-free zones or the gun-free school zones act of 1990.
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So this is an act of U.S. Congress that prohibits any other, any unauthorized individual from
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knowingly possessing a loaded or unsecured firearm at a place that the individual knows
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or has reasonable cause to believe is a school zone.
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Okay.
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Then you have the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. hate crimes prevention act of 2009.
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And that was conceived as a response to the murders of Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr.
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both in 1998.
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The measure expands the 1969 United States federal hate crime law to include crimes motivated
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by the victim's actual or perceived gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability.
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Then they mentioned the violent interference with federally protected rights statute.
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So the statute makes it a crime to use or threaten to use force to willfully interfere
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with any person because of race, color, religion, or national origin.
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And because the person is participating in a federally protected activity such as public
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education, employment, jury service, travel, or the enjoyment of public accommodations or
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helping another person to do so. And then they mentioned the conspiracy against rights statute,
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which this statute makes it unlawful for two or more persons to conspire to injure, threaten
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or intimidate any person in any state, territory or district in a free exercise or enjoyment
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of any right or privilege to secure to him or her by the Constitution or the laws of the
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United States. Okay.
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So this is what you might be thinking right now.
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What do all of those laws and statutes have to do with this situation?
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And the answer is pretty clear.
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Absolutely nothing.
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Those statutes and those laws have to do with nothing being described.
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And again, remember, they invoked the Patriot Act earlier.
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Okay.
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Essentially, the reason that they're mentioning these things in the letter is it's just giving
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them the justifications by which they will label and call angry parents domestic terrorists
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guilty of hate crimes.
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That's why they're doing this because there's no other logical explanation.
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Why would you elucidate those things?
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Why would you even include those different acts and laws in there unless you were planning
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on on calling these people and categorizing them in a certain way?
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And here's a third section here.
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I'll read quote in SBA believes public discussions and transparency by local school board members
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are important for the safe and effective operations of schools.
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It is vital that public discourses be encouraged in a safe and open environment in which varying
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viewpoints can be offered in a peaceful manner.
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Our children are watching the examples of the current debates and we must encourage a
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positive dialogue, even with different opinions.
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However, with such acute threats and actions that are disruptive to our students well-being
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to the safety of public school officials and personnel and to interstate commerce, we urge
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the federal government's intervention against individuals or hate groups who are targeting
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our schools and educators.
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Unquote.
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Now, one thing that you have to remember is anytime you see someone use the word anytime
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you see someone with this worldview, use the word safe, right?
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They mean where you don't challenge them.
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Because when you come to them with an idea that is contrary to their idea, that's considered
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unsafe.
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Again, we've expanded the definition of violence way beyond actual physical harm to somebody
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to include, Hey, you didn't make me feel safe because my ideas were being challenged.
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And you like out the end there, they just kind of throw in, you know, the federal government's
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intervention against individuals or hate groups who are targeting our schools and educators
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as if they're the same thing.
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It's like they want us to equivocate these people in our brains.
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Now, guys, now I just want to be fair here because I know some of you might be thinking,
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well, Kyle, if there are domestic terrorists threatening or, you know, saying that they're
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going to do violence to people on school boards, wouldn't you want to protect these people?
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To which I would say, yeah, of course, but that's not what we're dealing with here.
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You know how I know the letter that they sent to co president Biden cites a bunch of examples
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of what they deem to be harassment and intimidation.
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But the letter cites one example of actual physical violence, one in the whole country,
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thousands and thousands of school boards, thousands and thousands of school board meetings.
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Okay.
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And this was what it was.
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It was a student named Alex feldy.
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He reportedly disturbed a school board meeting for unity high school in Minden, Illinois.
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Now, as he was being escorted out of the building by school board officials or whoever was there,
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he allegedly struck one of them.
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So I don't know what that means that he actually, you know, hit them that he, you know, just
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kind of push them with his elbow.
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We don't know yet, right?
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Because as of right now, it's just an allegation.
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But let's assume he did do that on his way out.
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He just, you know, gave a guy a slobber knocker, right?
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Just right, right to the kisser.
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That's it.
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That's the main example.
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They're reaching out to the department of justice and federal law enforcement because
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one guy in one city at one time might have hit somebody on his way out of the building.
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But guys, in order for them to prove their point that they are under these, these dire
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circumstances, they have to lump all negative things into the same category and pretend
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that they're the same.
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Okay?
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So these people, the NSBA and other people like them, their perception of harassment and
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intimidation and threats and violence are just as bad as actual violence, categorically.
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They have to lump them all in together.
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They mentioned them in the same sentence in the same way as if those things are created
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equal, which anyone with a functioning brain realizes that that's not true.
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Because if you were to stand outside my house right now and say, Kyle, I hate you.
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You're stupid.
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Okay.
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That could be harassment.
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If you stay there and then you come every day at the same time to do that might actually
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get a little bit funny.
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But then if you were to intimidate me, if you were to, you know, come to me as I'm leaving
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the neighbor and say, Hey, you're really stupid.
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I hate your face.
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I want to hit it.
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Right?
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Okay.
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Well, that's intimidation.
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Like that.
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That's a little bit different than just straight up harassment.
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And then there's the threat of violence, which was in there as well.
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But if you're like, no, seriously, the next time I see you, I'm going to put this, these
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knuckles right in your face.
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I'm going to do it.
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There's nothing you do about it.
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Again, that's a threat of violence that's that's, you know, going a little bit further.
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But then if the next time you see me, if you actually do, you know, give me your best shot,
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you punch me in the face, that's different at each of these levels, these things are
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not the same.
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But in order to have the effect that they want of this letter on the federal government
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in order to actionize them and weaponize them, they have to lump them all together.
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But now I actually want to break down the response from the DOJ, right?
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So from the attorney general, Merrick Garland, because the full text of his memo, it's only
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one page long.
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It'll be in the show notes, but there's one key section from this that I want to read
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to you.
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And it says, quote, coordination and partnership with local law enforcement is critical to
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implementing these measures for the benefit of our nation's nearly 14,000 public school
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districts.
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To this end, I am directing the federal Bureau of Investigation, the FBI, working with each
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United States attorney to convene meetings with federal, state, local, tribal and territorial
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leaders in each federal jurisdiction or juror judicial district within 30 days of the issuance
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of this memorandum.
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These meetings will facilitate the discussion of strategies for addressing threats against
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school administrators, board members, teachers and staff, and will open dedicated lines of
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communication for threat reporting assessment and response.
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The department is steadfast in its commitment to protect all people in the United States
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from violence, threats of violence and other forms of intimidation and harassment.
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Now, this memo cites zero examples of harassment, intimidation, or threats of violence from
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parents.
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None.
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None whatsoever.
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But I do want to give you a little bit of a recap, okay?
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So in the eyes of the FBI and the Department of Justice, if you want to loot someone else's
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store, if you want to burn buildings down, if you want to take over police stations, if
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you want to throw crap through store windows, all in the name of racial justice or fighting
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against systemic racism, that's all good.
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We're good here.
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If you want to follow a female United States senator into the bathroom and film her, as
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people did in Arizona with Senator Chris and cinema because they disagree with some of
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the things she's doing politically, all good.
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No issues here.
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Ah, it's just this is something that happens.
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It's just something that people do.
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But if parents get angry at a school board meeting and vow to protect their children at
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all costs, they must be treated like terrorists.
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It's the only logical way of operating.
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They have to be treated like terrorists, right?
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Because just think about this.
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Let's say Merrick Garland responded in this same way so quickly to people that are destroying
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things because of Black Lives Matter, right?
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Let's just think about that.
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Now, I know some of you might be thinking, well, a lot of that went down when Trump was
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still in office.
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And again, I think that the Department of Justice should have done a whole lot more than what
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they did.
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But a lot of the federal government was actually, they were kept out of these communities.
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They could not have protected these communities, right?
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These were blue cities with blue mayors and blue governors and they just let it run ragged,
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right?
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Because it was politically expedient for them.
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It was good for them politically.
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But can you imagine if the Department of Justice was operating with any type of morality and
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was, was it, you know, appropriately as fixing that to different positions and different
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things that are actually happening in the world, not these made up farcical things?
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Again, one example of violence, one, you would have thought there would have been
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tons of them.
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But again, this is the power of narrative, you guys.
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Just think about it.
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Cause whenever you see these different, you know, people doing these surveys and things
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like that and you ask them, you know, how many unarmed black men are killed in the United
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States every year.
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And they think it's thousands and thousands as opposed to less than 20 every single year.
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It's because narrative.
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And now the narrative from these people in the media and from these democratic politicians
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and from people on the left is that there are people, there are people that like school
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board members are being kidnapped.
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They're being beaten.
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They're, they're, you know, being absolutely harassed to the point where they're pulling
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their hair out.
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That's what they want you to believe is happening.
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But it's just not the case.
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It's simply not the case.
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So we need to be real about what's actually going on here.
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Okay.
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And it's that the teachers union, they're weaponizing the federal law enforcement officers to silence
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parents that are in step with their programs and mandates.
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And I guess I should have framed that a little bit differently.
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It's not exactly the officers, but they are using the federal government, the federal
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law enforcement body to silence these parents.
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Okay.
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So remember, these teachers unions and school boards are on the wrong side of every issue.
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Every single one of these issues, CRT, sexually explicit and perverse content classrooms,
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masks and vaccine mandates, they're on the wrong side of all these things.
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Okay.
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And when you're wrong and can't prove it otherwise, you have to do whatever it takes to silence
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your opposition.
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In this instance, the opposition are angry parents.
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But again, these people are not interested in debate.
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They're not interested in you coming up there and convincing them to do something different.
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They have made up their minds and they just need you to shut up about it.
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And what's one way to get people to self sensor?
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If they think they're going to be put on a watch list, if they're going to be categorized
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under the Patriot act as a potential domestic terrorist, right?
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That's why they're doing this.
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They're not doing this because they're actually scared because they're not these people in
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very, very few cases.
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So far, we know of one are actually being assaulted, right?
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And in that instance, it wasn't a member of the school board.
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It was somebody that was escorting the guy out of the building allegedly.
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But another thing about this whole situation is that if people on the secular left don't
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like your ideas or how you express them, even when you express them legally under the protection
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of the first amendment, they will just categorize you as a domestic terrorist or a perpetrator
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of hate crimes and or a perpetrator of hate crimes.
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They'll do this so they don't actually have to debate with you.
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Okay.
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So, so remember when our motto used to be, we don't negotiate with terrorists.
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I guess unless you're the Taliban or the rulers of Iran, apparently, but I'll digress.
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But the thing is, is these people are not going to platform you.
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They're not going to platform to centers by debating with you.
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They're not going to do it.
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That's why you see a lot of prominent people on the right debaters.
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So whether that's, you know, Ben Shapiro or Dennis Prager or any of those types of people,
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they basically beg people on the left to debate them and they, for the most part won't do
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it.
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I know Ben Shapiro had a debate here recently with somebody that was, I think, an avowed
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socialist.
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But at the same time, those are few and far between because I think inherently these people
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know that their positions are untenable, but they don't want to have that proven in front
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of people.
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And there's no way for them to actually defend their positions.
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It's way easier for them to point at the person that's challenging their position and call
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them a racist.
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That's kind of a common thing right now, right?
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So if you brand someone as a racist, you never have to talk to them.
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Or why?
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Because they're a racist.
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They're evil.
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Why would I platform that person?
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Why would I even talk to them?
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Okay.
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They don't have to provide any evidence of their positions if they can just call you a name,
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right?
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And they don't even have to provide any evidence to say that you are a racist or a domestic
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terrorist or a perpetrator of a hate crime.
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They just need to say it out loud.
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And then it'll get repeated on the internet on Twitter.
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It'll get repeated on CNN and MSNBC.
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And then the next day, the New York Times and the Vox and the Washington Post will put
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out an article about it.
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And then all of a sudden that's the narrative.
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These parents aren't just concerned parents.
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They're domestic terrorists.
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They're perpetrators of hate crimes.
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And we know it's true.
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Well, how do you know?
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It's true.
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I don't know.
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Because we said so because we said it's true.
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But again, I don't just like describing what's going on.
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I like to actually prescribe what's going on and what you can do to actually fight back.
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Now remember, I'm going to go through several different things here about how you can fight
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back.
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But just remember you're on the right side of this issue, whatever the issue is, right?
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And I already kind of went through the list of the different issues that are being debated
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right now.
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So don't ruin that by resorting to actual harassment, intimidation, threats of violence
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or violence.
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Because some of you are so fired up and you're so desperate to protect your children and
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I get it.
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I'm a bear, pop a bear thing going on, but these people would love nothing more than
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a real example of actual violence or actual harassment.
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Because then they could exploit that.
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I mean, just look at what they've been able to do with fabricated examples up to this
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point.
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They've been wickedly effective, effective enough to send a letter to the White House,
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get a response almost immediately from the Attorney General of the United States that
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says, yeah, I completely agree with you.
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And not only that, we're going to do what you asked of us.
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We're going to send out federal law enforcement's to help you out, right?
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We're going to do it almost immediately.
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But another thing is you shouldn't get tired or bored or distracted at this point.
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You need to keep the pressure on these school districts.
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You need to keep the pressure on the people that are running the school districts, okay?
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Don't let the national news cycle distract you.
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Because again, and I've mentioned this several times, when's the last time you thought about
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what's going on in Afghanistan?
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If you're not following the reporting of Holly McKay or anyone else, Laura Logan or anyone
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that's on the ground or has connections there on the ground, have you been following what's
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going on there?
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Do you know what's going on there this week or was that something that just happened a
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month ago?
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Oh, yeah.
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That was really unfortunate when those people were falling from airplanes.
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Yeah, that was unfortunate.
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But you know, things, Trump did a rally and I don't think I like that or, you know, Biden
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fell asleep and pooped his pants on national television.
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I, we need to talk about that.
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Don't get distracted.
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There's a lot of things going on that's going to take your eye off the prize.
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You can't let your eye off the prize at this point, okay?
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So go back and listen to episode 243, okay?
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Just from last week, I gave you the steps that you can take to make sure that you have
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some control over what materials are in your kids classrooms and libraries.
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And I even had some people like, well, how do I do that?
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I give you the steps there.
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What was it?
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Like seven, eight or nine steps?
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Like I just put it right there and there are even parents that are being frozen out by
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school districts across the country that are suing the school districts, right?
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Under the Freedom of Information Act, get together with some parents that have some
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means and make sure that you can do that.
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You have to know what's going on.
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If you've got to get into the school, I'm not telling you to break the law, but if you
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got to get in in a unique way so that you can confirm things for yourself, I would encourage
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you to do that.
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Again, I'm not telling you to break the law to anyone that's going to clip this later
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and put it on some stupid blog, but I do have some tips and tricks that I want to give
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to some of you because I know for some of you, and this is what we'll kind of wrap up with,
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you're thinking about actually addressing your school board.
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You're looking at your calendar and you see a school board meeting coming up and you're
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like, okay, I think I want to go up and speak, speak my mind.
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I think I want to be bold and I want to bring some other parents with me, but I want to
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speak my mind.
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So here are some tips.
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Number one, don't show up alone, okay?
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You want to make sure this is what some people do.
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They'll put people in the audience, they'll put people in the crowd that agree with them,
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so they want to make sure that they'll clap and go crazy.
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Even if fights, you'll hear it like coaches in different corners.
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Anytime a strike lands, even if it's not a great strike, they're like, yeah, you know,
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they're screaming because they're thinking that influences the judges, okay?
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So make sure that when you make your point that you're not doing it to crickets, okay?
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So that's tip number one.
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Here's another tip, brevity is king, okay?
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I know most of you don't get paid to talk for a living, but most of you think that the
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longer you make your point, the stronger your point is, the exact opposite is true.
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If you've got a really, really good point, you don't need to keep repeating it.
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So one thing that you'll notice and you'll notice this in interviews, you'll notice this
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in political speeches, there are people even in comedy specials, I saw one recently that
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kind of had this is when you don't think your point lands, you repeat it almost like, oh,
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my audience must have missed that.
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Like, oh, everyone in the audience, all hundreds or thousands of them must have missed this.
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I'm going to go ahead and just repeat it.
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Typically what that means is the point that you brought up is not as good as you thought
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it was.
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Okay.
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So just be brief.
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You want to make sure you're brief, make your point and get it out there.
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Another tip is since there is a time constraint, and I know we're getting granular here, but
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this is important.
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Since there's a time constraint on public comments, could be two minutes, could be three minutes
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or one minute, depending upon where you're at, know exactly what you're going to say.
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Okay.
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And if necessary, write it out so that you can read it.
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Okay.
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Now I will tell you, doing what I do and kind of my training, I have this ability and I
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have this gift from God that I can just kind of flow, you know, give me five bullet points
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on a sheet of paper and I can flow for a long length of time.
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But again, something like this podcast, it can be as long or short as I want it to be.
27:58
But when you're in a time constraint, everything changes.
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Okay.
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So if you're reading too fast, if you're reading too slow, you might miss out on your time.
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You might miss out on your point.
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But again, that's why it's important to kind of go ahead and write this thing out and,
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you know, go ahead and have it written out in a way to where if you want to just straight
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up read it, you can do that or you can kind of flow a little bit.
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Okay.
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Which goes into the next thing, which is practice what you're going to say over and over again.
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Most people think they completely overestimate their ability to get up and speak and do it
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well.
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Right.
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It is a skill set is not an easy thing to do to get your point across in a brief manner
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that is cogent and understandable.
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Okay.
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So practice what you're going to say.
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So if you're going to sit there and read it, set the timer, hit go and then read your
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statement.
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Okay.
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Great.
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Then you're going to do it again.
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And then do it again and then do it again and again and again and just make sure that
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you get all the marbles out of your mouth before you go up there because you want to
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make sure that you provide, you know, the right amount of information and that you do
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it in a way that is easily digestible for the audience.
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Okay.
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But here's another tip that I would like to give you and this is probably the most important
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tip to any parents thinking about doing this or community members.
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Don't begin with yelling and anger.
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Don't do that.
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Okay.
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We don't need to use those methods because we're on the right, you know, virtuous side
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of these issues.
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So a problem that I've seen a lot of people do is they get up to these meetings and the
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very first thing they do is when they're like, okay, Mr. So and so at your time, they start
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yelling and you're going to do this and I demand and I blah, blah, blah.
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The thing about it is when you start there, you're easily tuned out, even by the people
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that agree with you.
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Now again, I understand that you're angry and I understand that you're on the right side.
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You're on the righteous side, the virtuous side on this issue.
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But when you start with yelling and anger, there's nowhere else for you to go.
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Really because you've started at the crescendo.
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And so if you speak for three minutes, you're maybe going to feel, you know, a little bit
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cathartic, you may be going to feel great afterwards.
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But at the end of the day, that wasn't the most positive beneficial thing for you to
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do.
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Like by any stretch, the imagination, you should have composed yourself.
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And if you get angry and you get hyped up while you're giving your speech, maybe that's
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acceptable because we've seen that happen with parents that were being interrupted.
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And then all of a sudden they're, they're anger and you know, kind of bubble to the surface.
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But again, you're on the right side.
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You don't need to scream.
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Part of the reason why people on their side that think the way they do have to scream
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and yell over you is because they know what you're saying is correct.
30:23
They know they're on the wrong side.
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But if they yell loud enough and for long enough, they're going to drown you out.
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Don't do that.
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Don't be that person.
30:30
And again, if you're going to read this over and over and over, it takes a little bit of
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the, the, you know, sting out of what out of what the emotion for you, right?
30:39
You've seen people talk about this when they're delivering a eulogy.
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They'll write out the eulogy and they'll read it over and over and over again so that when
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they get up to give it, they can be in complete control because it's just words on a page
30:47
at that point.
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It doesn't mean they mean them any less, but it, it helps them kind of get through it,
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right?
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And be someone that can be seen as a pillar of strength.
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So don't start with yelling and anger.
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Start, relax.
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And here's the last thing here.
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Don't be shocked if you don't go viral or if the school board tunes you out anyway.
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Okay.
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Some of these people are actually going to the school board meetings, I think, because they
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want to go viral, but you know, that's, you know, maybe another discussion for another
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day.
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So the school boards, they're going to see, you know, hours and hours and hours of public
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testimony and comments and then they vote however they're going to vote.
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There's nothing that anyone could have said, even a threat that would have gotten them off
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of their vote.
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So you need to understand that, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't go.
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It doesn't mean it's futile at that point.
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It just means you should understand that the outcome may not be what you want it to be,
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but other people are going to hear you and they're going to see you because most of these
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people are elected into the positions that they're in, right?
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And if you were another voice in the community that can affect other voices, that's an easy
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way to get them out of office the right way, right?
31:46
You're not going to do it with violence.
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You're not going to do it with threats.
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You're just, Hey, we got someone else in there that thinks like we do, you're out democracy,
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right?
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Like that's kind of like a straight up local democracy, right?
31:57
We're going to have our voices heard because you're not doing what we want you to do.
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And this takes you back to the scripture from the very beginning, Ephesians 5 11, take
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no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them guys.
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That's pushing back darkness.
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That's what we're trying to get you to do.
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We're equipping you to be able to push back darkness because guys, there's darkness all
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over these situations.
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I say it every week now, there's darkness all over these situations and we need to expose
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them.
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But the reason why I want to say when I'll read it again, take no part in the unfruitful
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works of darkness, but instead expose them, this drives home the point.
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Don't be the harasser.
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Don't be the intimidator.
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Don't threaten violence.
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Don't be violent.
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You don't have to be because you're right.
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All right, guys, before we go, we are going to do a quick resilience boost.
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As you know, by now an undaunted life, our mission is equipping men to push back darkness
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with content that for just spiritual, mental and physical resilience.
32:44
So the links I've got for you today, I've got a link to our book list of 100 books every
32:47
modern Christian man should read, but then also I've got the national school boards association
32:51
letter to Joe Biden.
32:52
So you can read that.
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It's about, you know, six or seven pages long.
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I also have the response from attorney general Merrick Garland there so you can check that
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out.
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And then there's also a press release from the department of justice that reflects the same
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information.
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