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This is Undaunted Life A Man's Podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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Welcome back to the forging table of the mission of Undaunted Life is equipping men to push
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back darkness with content that forges spiritual, mental, and physical resilience.
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So at the forging table, you'll see a group of regular guys forging spiritual resilience
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by digging into God's Word and we're welcoming all of you to come along on that journey with
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us.
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That's Russell.
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That's right.
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That's Ryan guys.
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We're digging in to Psalm 22.
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And here's the thing about Psalm 22.
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And this may be like a good time to just kind of tee you guys up that if as long as you're
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not driving because you know, you can hurt yourself.
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But if you're listening to this right now in the last week or so, you've read Psalm 22
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a couple of times, go ahead and hit pause and then go and read Matthew 27 a few times
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because the connections between Psalm 22 and Matthew 27 are astonishing.
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And as I was reading, I was just writing in the margins, I was like, Oh, are all these
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references to Jesus?
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Because I wasn't sure they were, but I was like, I'm pretty sure they are.
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But then just by the time you're done reading the 22nd Psalm, because it's somewhat lengthy,
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you're like, Oh, this is, it's all there.
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It's all right there.
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But I really want to go right from the beginning.
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So this is a psalm of David.
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And by the way, when it says that in the, in the top where it's according to the dough
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of the dawn, when I was reading, they were talking about like maybe the key that I was
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being sung in or something like that.
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So I guess there's not like a big time significance to the word dough there.
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But even just the very, very first verse here, guys, we could camp out on verse one for the
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entire time, but we know we will have to move along.
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But it's my God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
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Why are you so far from saving me from the words of my groaning?
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And so if you've been in, in the Christian world for any length of time, that should
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sound very, very familiar to you because those are the words that Jesus spoke on the cross.
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And something that we were talking about off air just before we hit record is we're so
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dumb and modernity.
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We don't need to know how to do math because we have a calculator on our phone.
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We don't need to remember who won, you know, this particular war because we can just Google
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it real quick.
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But back in this day, you just didn't have copies of these, you know, Old Testament books
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just sitting around typically, and you didn't have a bunch of them.
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So there was a lot of memorization at that time.
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And so the significance of Jewish people hearing Jesus say these words on the cross there.
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They had to thought like, that's David.
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That's what King David said.
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And so it's very, very interesting.
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But right from the beginning, just brutal desperation, like the level of desperation in
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what David is saying there, it certainly echoes Jesus on the cross, but it's like, you know,
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it's just lament, lament, lament for the first 21 verses and then the last 10 verses
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or so are praise.
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The man, it was just like heavy from the very beginning and Zack Todd.
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This is his favorite song.
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Another guy.
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He's not here to defend himself or even talk about his favorite song, but it's like another
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new Christian just just like you, Zack Foster to where it's like, I almost feel like this
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would scare me if I were a new Christian because it's like, gosh, David was like, God's dude.
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And look at how much he's lamenting.
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Like it's just a crazy depressing place to start the song, you know, well, it's a good
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thought that it's encouraging that David has been put on the throne by God.
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Like you're saying, he says guy, but in David's worst moment when everybody's coming at him,
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he has the steadfastness to go to the Lord.
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And it's just a testament to always going to prayer, going to God, no matter what's coming
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against you, it's just, you know, it's just the toughest time for him throughout his life,
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probably.
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It just, it was a good reminder to always go to God.
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I look at those words and, you know, and I think of Jesus on the cross and then I think
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of David and David thinking that God has forsaken him.
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You know, when you read about God, usually, how do you want to say it, disciplining his
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people via breaking their covenant, they always say he hides their his face from them or turns
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away from them.
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God probably had every reason to turn away from David and forsake David, and David knows
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that.
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But when you look at Christ on the cross and he says that, he says that after he takes
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on the full cup of wrath and God has to turn his head from him.
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And I think that's just like a sobering thought of like, man, how many times do we cry out?
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God helped me with this or God, you know, why is this happening?
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And when Christ sat on that cross after being beaten, it was because God had to turn away
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from him because of our sin.
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I just, I find those words like the most sobering words in this chapter.
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I mean, again, just a really rough place to start whenever you're, you're reading through
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something like this because of the significance, but also the weight.
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And I mean, I don't know about you guys, but when you read about David and who he is and
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how Jesus comes from his line, like we have no corollary to this because like, do you ever
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quote something that your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather
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said and how it's, you know, we're corresponding to the most significant time in his life and
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the most significant time in your life, like we don't really have a corollary like that.
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But but again, it just, it just does foreshadow the suffering that had to take place so that
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we wouldn't have to suffer.
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Right?
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Like that's the story of the gospel ultimately.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, they ran to your point, I think so many times, you know, we cry out to God,
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right?
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But we look at this and it's just, it's so small in comparison to what Christ really did on
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the cross and, and to your point, it's very sobering.
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And I know that, you know, I sit there and I think about, you know, when I think of Christ
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on the cross and, you know, him saying these words, I also think about him in the garden
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with 70, you know, you know, sweating blood and just, you know, you know, telling God
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that, hey, if, if this cup can pass, let it, but if not, you know, your will be, your will
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be done, right?
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Just having that kind of resolve and he had perfect resolve.
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I mean, he was holy.
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He had perfect resolve in that and just looking at my own life, like where can I have the
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resolve, you know, at least in some outs, you know, getting to be in that Christ like
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this, right?
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And that's kind of, for me, those pictures always stick in my head and then it's looking
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at my own life.
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And knowing that, you know, I think in America today, Christianity is easy.
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And man, and I hate that.
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I mean, you know, it's weird.
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It's weird to want to wish for things to be harder in some respects because I'm so thankful
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for what we do have.
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And I think we take it for granted.
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But we just, we just don't realize how easy we have it and how we, you know, nominalize
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and just make things just too easy.
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And so, yeah, you know, it's funny.
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I actually think of Zach was telling me, you know, not that long ago, he went to a trip
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in Israel with some people from our church and he was just saying how rocky it was there.
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He was like, dude, I can't imagine we're in sandals there.
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Like, yeah, I mean, yeah, and so I'm just like, man, how easy our life is just walking
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around the neighborhood.
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I don't believe it.
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Yeah, it's just every hillside is just littered with boulders and rocks and yeah, it would
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have been incredibly difficult to just walk anywhere around the city, Galilee or anywhere
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up and down the Jordan River or around the Dead Sea.
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It just turns into desert down there, but up north by the Sea of Galilee it is.
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So do you think it changes the style or even the presence of our lament that we do live
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in such a cushy time?
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Because so to them, Zach, that wasn't rocky.
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It was just walking.
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That was, you know what I mean?
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It was like they weren't walking on these, you know, perfectly paved roads and, you know,
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perfectly even floors all the time.
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Like their entire life was spent basically using their stabilizer muscles to not fall
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over.
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Like that's basically what they were doing.
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But it's almost like when you hear people that go to these really, really, really poor
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parts of the world and they see these people that are so unbelievably happy.
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Part of is because they don't know what they're missing, whereas like in a community like
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ours.
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They know exactly what we're missing because we can see it.
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There is the physical manifestation of somebody's level of income by the car that they drive,
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by the, you know, garage, which is a house for their car that they park it in, the vacations
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they go on.
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And yes, there are people that have debt that are being flashy, but to a degree, you can
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only flex so much before the gig is up.
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And if you've been doing it for decades, you're probably, you're probably balling out of control
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and good on you.
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But again, we that those, those people don't understand what they're missing, but we also
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don't have to pray the prayer, give us a stare daily bread.
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And so I guess to get back to my question before I went off on my own little soliloquy,
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like this, doesn't that change our lament because like, when I'm reading through this,
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I don't recognize a lot of this in me because it's like, we get, we complain, it's a little
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cold in our house because our, you know, our heater is not working exactly properly.
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Yeah, I think that's, that's exactly right.
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I think our lament is minor, I mean, it's, it's, we, we don't really have that burden
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that, you know, David was experiencing, I mean, you know, I mean, it's all chased after this
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guy.
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He was living in caves and I mean, he was, you know, there was, he had some real trouble.
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And then obviously, you know, nothing compared to the crucifixion and leading up to the crucifixion,
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the, the beatings and, you know, the kind of what this first lays out kind of line by
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line of what would happen to Jesus.
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And so, yeah, I do, I do think, you know, for us, it may make us, we need to be a little
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bit more callous, a little more hardened and just be like, man, you know, this is minor.
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I need to kind of pull myself up.
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I need to stop complaining.
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I need to, you know, toughen up whatever you want to call it in some respects.
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But, but I also think it, you know, going back to it, and also, you know, David cried
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out to God.
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And I think that's what we need to do.
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I think we need to be okay, like we can't be so tough that, Oh God, I don't need to
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take this to God.
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I, I need to, you know, you know, even if it is small, but if it means something to us,
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I think we need to go to God and we need to really try and, you know, be transparent
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with him.
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I think it's so funny when people are like, well, you know, God knows everything.
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Why do I need to pray?
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Or why do I need to do anything?
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Man, that's so much for you that it is, you know, for God.
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And so, you know, you need to do that so that you can get closer and to have greater community,
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community with God.
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And so, I think it's really important for us to lament and to praise and to do all that's
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experienced in this song.
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I think when it comes down to lament, though, is what are we lamenting about?
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You know, are we lamenting our own issues?
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Are we, are we lamenting our spiritual issues?
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Here's, we talked about lament and, and minor things.
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I mean, yes, we live in Edmond, Oklahoma, in the United States of America.
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I'll give you guys a story.
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I was getting a basketball hoop put in for our son for Christmas.
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And the guy that was doing it, hit my main water line, cracked the pipe, water spat out
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everywhere.
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And so they tried to makeshift it and I was still leaking and it was still leaking and
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it was just wearing on me that this pipe was leaking, like, you know, is it going to bust?
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It's cold outside.
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What are we going to do?
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You know, I'm just in my mind thinking worst things possible and I blow up at my family.
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I blow up on my kids and my wife, you know, I'm like, they're complaining about putting
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tomatoes in their taco salad and I'm like, there's other things to worry about here.
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You know, I'm like, I've got this pipe, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And my wife's like, why don't you go take a step back?
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And so I went out and I lamented that I lament about that pipe.
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No, I lamented to me as a father and as a man and as the spiritual leader of my household,
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how I lost my faith and letting God handle this and took it out on them.
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I lamented that fact.
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I didn't lament the pipe, but once I lamented that fact, the pipe was nothing, you know,
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the pipe was nothing.
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And so I, how are we lamenting?
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Are we lamenting about the pipe or are we lamenting about how we, how we were acting
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in Christ image?
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Well, I think, I think that's a good point, Ryan.
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It does beg the question for me though, because I kind of keyed in on something that you were
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saying there, Russell, and it's like, okay, we need to take these things to God.
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So what does that mean?
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And so because, because I'll say, I'll speak for me.
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I won't speak for you guys, but I am curious.
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There are things that seem so trivial to me that are bothersome that they're very bothersome.
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But I'm like, I'm not going to bother God, but that one, like, but it's like, no, no,
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bring your burdens to me, like, you know, I can carry this weight for you.
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But I'm like, no, I, it's almost, I treat it like I've got one meeting a week with my
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manager, and it's like, I don't want to talk about the scent of the soap in the bathroom
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that slightly bothers me when I wash my hands.
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Like, I want to talk about things that are going to lead to me getting promoted and getting
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paid more money.
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Like those, those types of things.
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So I guess whenever you say, take these things to God, let's get down to like brass
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tax, they're like, what does that mean, because I think that directly correlates to lament.
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Yeah, obviously, I think there's some discernment in how you come to the Lord in your praying
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and in just in your speaking to them, right?
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I mean, for me personally, prayer looks different.
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I mean, there are different aspects of the way I pray.
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I mean, I may actually be praying in petition on someone's behalf, right, for my family
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or for some friends or for missionaries or whatever that may be, that I may be in for
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supplication, right?
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Praying for myself, praying for some specific things, whether they're, you know, work related,
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maybe they're some stress related things, dealing with my family, et cetera, but then
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there are also those things that are just nuances of life that I think are immoral.
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And I don't know that I necessarily need to be asking for God's provision in those, but
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I can talk to him in a conversation about like what is going on in my life, right?
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And those things will come up.
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But so when I say take them to them, I think it's more in the conversation as opposed to
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a, please change the sentence in the bathroom.
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Like, you know, it's like, man, today was rough and I blew up my family and I did this
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and this.
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And man, that's stupid soap.
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That's got me angry too, Lord.
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Like, just, I mean, I think that's the conversation that I want to do with the Lord, right?
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And I know for me, and I'm a talk out loud, think out loud kind of person, which sometimes
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makes you sound really dumb, but that's just how it goes.
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And so I do that and I do it with God too.
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And my kids have caught me on more than one occasion to hear you talking to my, I'm just
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kind of talking to myself or talking to God, like I'm just, yeah, I'm talking to myself
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from, you know, a lot of times it's me talking to myself, which ultimately is me talking to
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the Lord.
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But that's what I mean by that.
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And I think we do have to have discernment in when you're asking the Lord for something
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because you can go down a really slippery slope of like, oh, Lord will help me with this
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and help me with that.
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And he's going to provide.
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I think you have to have discernment on is this making me more Christ-like or not?
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And if it's not, that's probably conversational.
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That's probably not a request.
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Well, I have a conversational prayer to God right now that, Hey, Lord, you bless me with
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one forging table.
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But if you keep Chuck norcing the table while we're talking, I'm going to have to replace
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them for a while, like, come on, man, let's just hit him with your elbows from now on.
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We can get after it.
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No, but like the point is well taken because, okay, have you all heard about people that
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have conversational prayers with God, like throughout the day, like not like it?
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Okay.
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That to me, I don't want to get too far off of Psalm 22.
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So, so get me accountable.
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That's weird to me.
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Like, I know people that are like all day, they're in kind of this constant, you know,
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back and forth, like tweeting, texting relationship with God and like every decision throughout
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the day, like, do I go to this place for lunch or that place for lunch or should I go work
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out right now?
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Should I have this conversation?
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I'm serious.
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Like it's, it's just constant throughout the day as opposed to like, for me, I feel like
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most of my prayers are really, really thankful.
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I'm like, God, this is such a cool opportunity or God, like it makes no sense that that this
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should happen for me.
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Like, thank you so much for that.
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Like, does that strike y'all as odd because for me, it's like, I don't think that there's
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a problem with it, obviously, but it's like, it's weird for me.
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It's weird.
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I'm like, when I'm, I do a lot of driving for my job, so I'm on the road a lot.
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So if I'm not listening to a Donta.life's podcast, I sometimes learn plug.
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Is it a plug if it's on the podcast that people are already listening to?
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I'm not listening to myself on the flooring table.
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Yeah, here you go.
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No, but when I, when I'm not done listening to something, I'll turn the, I'll turn the
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radio down and I'll just talk to God, you know, I'm mostly out of praise.
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Using him for the opportunities afforded me, praising him with the family that he's giving
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me, lamenting certain facts, trying to figure out, you know, if I'm dealing with something,
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you know, kind of like just dwell on him.
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So I, I think that in a conversational aspect with God makes sense.
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Now I don't, what I'm driving down the road, be like, Lord, should I go to hardies or McDonald's?
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You know, don't really, don't really view it that way.
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So I just find that, that part strange if you're going to ask him what like every decision
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that you make, but there's been some tough decisions I've had to make and I've gone into
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prayer for that.
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But not for what I was going to do.
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Well, if those are your only two restaurant options, you probably have some more lament
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that you need to get out.
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When you're in Kansas on the turnpike, oh, you've got his hardies and McDonald's.
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That's rough.
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Hey, we're back in the BB and J. Yeah, I got to get after it on your own.
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Yeah.
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Well, I guess like, so through the lens of you're like the, the resident, you know, new Christians
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act.
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I guess what is your relationship with prayer been like in the last few years because it's
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like, I mean, you don't really need to do a lot of praying before you become a Christian
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or at least you don't think so because you kind of have this, you know, country music
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theology where it's like, I'm going to talk to the man upstairs and I'm going to just
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thank you mayor for now and then blah, blah.
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And like, that's kind of how we do it here in Oklahoma before you actually accept Christ.
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But like your thoughts on prayer, how's that shifted and changed?
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I'll say that before I was a Christian, you know, anything that's going on in your head
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that you're talking about to yourself or going through different big problems, you're essentially
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praying.
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You just don't know who you're talking to or why you're talking to them.
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But you're going through a situation or a problem and trying to figure it out and come
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to a conclusion.
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You're really consulting something, though you must be talking to the Lord.
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Now that I've become a believer, it has been absolutely crucial and paramount in my lifestyle
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daily to stay in conversation with the Lord as much as possible.
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I'm not asking him where I'm going to lunch or any of that little rollercoats are all
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day long because I'm not sure if that's how the Lord intended it.
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But as Kyle knows, and maybe you guys know that I was in general contracting for myself.
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So I was outside building fences cutting down trees and I would always be outside.
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So I just we got in this habit of every time I saw the sun, every time the sun shine down
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mirror, I looked at the sun, I would talk to the Lord and be thankful.
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You're just so when you live in appreciation with so much love in your heart, you don't
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have time for hate.
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So I just found it very easy to always turn to to the Lord in most situations throughout
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my day, depending on what it is and whatever situation I'm in to be able to get into prayer
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because of living with appreciation.
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And there's no problem, obviously, with having dedicated prayer time, like there are people
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that are very, very regimented there, you know, they have trait consciousness and so it's
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like, every morning at 545, that's when I start my, my quiet time, my Bible study, and
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I will read this much and then I will move into prayer time and I will pray in this way.
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And then there are people that are a little bit higher and you know, trait openness and
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so they're a little bit more creative and they're going to kind of flow and that may
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be the person that's kind of doing it throughout the day.
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But again, if you can convene with the almighty, which we can, like, it's probably something
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that you should do because it's going to help you as you as you kind of move forward.
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Um, again, the first two thirds or so of song 22, there's, there's a lot of lament, but a
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lot of references that cross reference with Matthew 27.
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So verse one, you get that a Matthew 27, 46 verse seven, Matthew 27, 39 verse eight, Matthew
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27, 43, but something caught me in guys, if I skipped over something you wanted to hit,
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like we can obviously go back, but there was something that caught me in verse 10.
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Um, I guess there's subtlety.
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Okay.
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So there's subtlety in what's happening, uh, in the Bible and when you talk about, so
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we mentioned last week's episode, a red letter Christianity, right?
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So there are people that like, you know, they value the red letters above the black letters
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because that's the words of Jesus when it's like, look, dude, they made those letters read
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so that it'd be easier for you to reference when Jesus was talking because if someone's
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just referencing a scripture and it's right in the middle of a parable, the red letters
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just kind of help you.
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But if you believe in a Trinitarian view, father's on the Holy Spirit, all the words
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are red letters because Jesus is part of the Godhead, right?
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But verse 10 is on you was I cast from my birth and from my mother's womb, you have
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been my God.
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So I've used a lot of different references and a lot of different biblical references
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as to why we shouldn't murder babies in the womb.
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I've never thought about Psalm 22 10, but that's a subtlety there that what's going
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on in the womb has importance and not just for the propagation of the species, but just
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in general, because what's happening there is seen by God and is directed by God.
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And it happened even before that moment, even before you were a you, right?
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And so I think that's something for me.
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And I think you said this last week, Russell, where it's like, you may have said it a little
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bit earlier today, but it's like you've got when you start reading the Bible more and
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you're reading, you're reading bigger chunks of the entire thing, you will see a lot of
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these corollaries like connecting to one another and it just helps you with the worldview,
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with morality.
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I mean, last week, we spent a lot of time on politics and we don't really need to beat
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a dead horse this week with it.
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But the, the political nature, you're always legislating your morality, but if you don't
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know where your morality comes from, you can easily be toppled over, but that just stuck
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out to me.
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Verse 10 is like, yeah, you know, from the womb and, you know, when you have kids, like
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it's like, no, it was important, not now that they're five years old and going into kindergarten.
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It was important since before the time you met him.
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Right.
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I feel like that, and correct me if I'm wrong, but that is at Jesus's birth at that moment
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is when he became the begotten son, because in the beginning, though, the word was with
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God and maybe the word was actually the begotten son before he was born at that moment, then
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that's at a moment in time is when Jesus was became the begotten son.
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And I think it was reference and commentary that listened to for Psalm two a while back.
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But yeah, this, from verses nine and 10, yeah, so Spurgeon said, he's written over a little
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bit of his commentary and he said that the child that was fighting his greatest battle
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of his life uses the mercies of his nativity as the argument with God, faith finds weapons
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everywhere, even, or he who wills to believe shall never lack reasons of believing.
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And I just love that quote that if you are a believer, you'll never lack a reason to believe.
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You bring up Spurgeon, which kudos for me.
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I saw some election in there.
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What do you guys see?
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Oh, you're the guy that sees election no matter what you read, if you're reading a menu at
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a restaurant, go ahead and make your point as opposed to trying to lay a snare for the
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rest of us is snare.
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I didn't see abortion in there, but I see your point in that.
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No, I just I see that you are my God, even in my mother's womb, or even in my mother's
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womb, you are my God.
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That means God chose him from the beginning.
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So I see election in that, are we really going to do this election argument again?
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We've done this like seven times already, and this is like a new version of the show.
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I'm just pointing out right.
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All right.
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You know what?
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We haven't heard Russell or Zach talk about election.
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So here we go.
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I'll just put the mic away so you guys can argue about it.
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Go ahead.
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Election pass pass.
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We got one pass.
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It's all in you, Russell, man, it's stuff for me because I think it's it's probably something
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post, you know, Jesus is coming, second coming or my death, that I fully understand free
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will and you know, election, but you know, I I believe that the Bible speaks very clearly
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about chosen people.
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I mean, obviously these are lights were chosen people and the New Testament speaks to chosen
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and obviously this verse speaks to chosen some election.
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And so, you know, I do know that God has it all for known in his knowledge.
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I don't know what that looks like, but I also know that as an individual, you know, I self
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discovered, you know, I had to self discover, you know, and upon his opening my eyes, the
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truth of the scriptures.
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And so I can't reconcile either of them, to be honest with you, you know, I'm on the fence
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and I'll stay on the fence probably till the day I die.
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But all that said, I think what this shows is just God's handiwork in the all the history.
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Right.
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So before and after.
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Yep.
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Guys, if you're wondering, if you're not watching this on YouTube, he is still banging
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on the table.
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He just he got he loves election and debating so much.
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He's just you remember the power team we knew we know a guy about our team, right?
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So you're like breaking deals of glass or whatever.
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Have you ever thought about joining power?
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I'm going to give you I'm going to give you a funny story to this.
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That's great.
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Yeah.
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It might be on the power team.
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Okay.
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So I think in college, you have to do like a communications class, right?
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Okay.
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You have to give us speech in front of everybody.
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I'm terrible public speaking.
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I don't know why you have me on this thing, but in public speaking, especially and I talk
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with my hands, which is why I'm being the table.
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I'm trying to I'm literally trying to sit on my hands over your people, but so the thing
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I did then standing in front of people instead of sitting was I would always like pull my
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sleeves up.
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No joke for the first couple, I had a long sleeve shirt and I would pull my sleeves
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up and up and you know, keep screwing with them.
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The last time the professor asked me to wear a short sleeve shirt, so I wouldn't do that.
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And I still figuratively tried to pull my sleeves up.
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I'm telling you, man, I'm you can't break me.
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We sure have it.
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Oh, oh, dog.
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Can't you can't teach me new tricks.
27:41
Well, Zach, you got a new job like you're you're just going to like slide your hand each
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time you like you just slide it and like you're the buffer in between the funny thing about
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that is if anybody's been in sales in this audience, you've probably done some, you know,
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talking about and thinking about like nonverbals, like typically when people do self touching,
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which is like where they they're not itching their forums on itching, but they just keep
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scratching their forearm.
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You can tell they're uncomfortable with what they're about to say and everything like
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that.
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It's just like kind of like a little nervous tick thing.
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But to go back around to the grenade that you dropped in the middle table, Ryan, have
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we sufficiently talked about a lecture?
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Do we need to waste the next 45 minutes talking more?
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I think we're good.
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I was just sure.
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Are you sure?
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Are you satisfied?
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And it just made me think of that.
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But really when I look at the verse, I really see about how, you know, God is God is the
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provider and we're just the babies that need the provision that a baby needs from its mother.
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So I wouldn't I don't want to get too deep into that because those nuanced people might
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take that into the same realm as our old friend from the past.
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But yeah, but no, I think what he's basically saying is we're babies in regards to where
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we're at and we need nourishment and then God is under it.
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When again, for him again, he spends the first 20 or so verses like almost like trying to
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come up with different ways of describing just how wrecked he feels.
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But for my money versus 14 and 15, that's where I was like, all right, this dude is wrong
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completely out.
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So 14 and 15, I am poured out like water and all my bones are out of joint.
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My heart is like a wax.
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It is melted within my breast.
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Verse 15, my strength is dried up like a pots, pots shirt, what the heck is that?
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And my tongue sticks to my jaws.
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You lay me in the dust of death like I've been sad before, like I've been downright,
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you know, downtrodden, you know, I've been melancholy.
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I've never felt like my tongue sticked like stuck to my jaw and that I was playing in
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the dust of death.
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I've never been there.
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And so part of it could be like, all right, David, we get it.
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You're belaboring this point, but it's like, again, he's pointing to something because
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there's a big shift coming in verse 22 where he's going to be shifting into praise gear.
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But man, 14 and 15 really for me, I was just like, because, you know, I'm kind of pulling
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out the, you know, the crucifixion language and all the different things that were happening
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on the cross.
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But that for me, that was probably the roughest part of any of these Psalms that we've gone
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to right now.
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That was like a laments lament.
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Yeah, it tries to just belabor it where it's kind of starting to relate to Job's story
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where everything is going wrong and he still stays faithful.
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And David here, yeah, he's just trying to basically feel like make the reader understand
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that this is by far the worst time of his life.
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Well, I think it's something to look at too, is, you know, the foreshadowing of Christ
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and what's happening before the crucifixion.
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I mean, can you imagine what Christ is going through at this time when he's being beaten?
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Thorns put on his head, you know, he's thirsty to give him vinegar, you know, dogs encompassing
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evil doers and circle me.
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They have pierced my hands and feet and I count all my bones.
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It's just the foreshadowing of what he's about to take on that David is feeling, you know,
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lamenting to God that he feels like he's gone through and, and, you know, seeing what God's
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going to do in the end now with the praises.
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So obviously this goes back to what you were talking about earlier, Russell with, you know,
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you're taking your problems to God, whatever that means to you.
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And however you try to do that and prayer and different things like that.
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I didn't really think about this until now and it seems obvious now that I've kind of,
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you know, turned it over my head a couple of times.
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It's like, okay.
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God was forcing David to go through this so that he would say this so that it would be
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written down and so that hundreds and hundreds of years later, a rabbi in the Middle East
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would would say these same words and it would connect for everybody.
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This is one of those times when you talk to like Orthodox Jews or people like that and
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it's just like, where do you see the disconnect?
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Because there are so many prophecies that are fulfilled in the person of Jesus to an extreme
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degree, so much to boggle mathematical minds, right, just because of the sheer odds of him
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being able to take care of a lot of these boxes and check them.
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But I guess that's for me where I try not to be so grandiose if I'm suffering or if I'm
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going through a hard time, but it's like, what is God trying to get me to understand?
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But also it may not even be from my understanding.
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I may just need to go through this and talk about it and tell people about it.
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Maybe record a podcast about it or write it down or something like that.
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Because the lessons not for me.
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Think about this.
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I mean, hundreds of centuries and centuries and centuries go by before literally the spark
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that ignited this whole thing turned into an absolute fire that consumed the entire planet.
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And so I guess that's I don't know if that's comforting or scary that it's like, hey, you're
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not maybe going to go ahead and go ahead.
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It's comforting for sure because you're understanding that it's all in God's timing.
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Every year going through in a moment could be the Lord working it through for next week
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or somebody else who's in your direct path.
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And however the Lord's using you, but now, yeah, we look back and see that Jesus teed
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this up for himself.
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He put it in to David to have these words written down to have this in the Psalm a thousand years
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before Christ would even be born and then on his deathbed, essentially, you know, on the
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cross he uses as he's meditating on scripture on the cross is so beautiful for me to read
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that and understand that to when I'm reading through that these verses, it was I was thinking
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about Christ and on the cross and not David and whenever he thinks he's going through because
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like what we just said, it was God using this in David's time to directly affect what happened
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on the cross and how profound that must be to Israelites at the time who are not believing
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in Christ and his ministry, but to have all these references to the Old Testament from
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hundreds or thousands of years before should be profound to you that you can understand.
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Oh, yeah, he's quoting David and that was written so long ago, you know, how does he
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know all this?
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You know, Jesus would have had to have every Old Testament book written out and in his
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back pocket to fulfill all these hundreds of prophecies throughout his, throughout his
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ministry that it just, it blows my mind and you're trying to explain it to non-believers
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all the time in our day, you know, they're like, oh, well, you know, how Jesus know this.
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I'm like, yeah, you're either saying that Jesus was the smartest guy that's ever lived
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and he put together the greatest manuscript of lies or you start to understand that it's
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all prophetic and that he must have put out all this content through other prophets throughout
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history and lived it out.
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You know, it's just, it was beautiful for me to read through these, this scripture and
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to put all that together.
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Yeah, I mean, I think the whole of Psalm 22 is beautiful in the sense that, I mean, just
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what it represents a thousand years later.
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And so, you know, I mean, Jesus would have known the scriptures, verbatim, we've had
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a lot of it memorized, right?
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So, you know, obviously the pain that he experienced on the cross, you know, in crying out to
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God, I think is profound, but then what's even more profound for me in these things is
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right.
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They wagged their heads at him, they divide his garments.
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These are Roman soldiers who were doing this, right?
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I mean, you know, Roman and Jewish, you know, people who, and then the crucifixion itself,
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crucifixion didn't exist in David's time, it was not a thing, so piercing their hands
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in their feet.
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Why would he have said that?
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And then I actually, one of the commentaries was saying that he was actually saying that
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in the, in the sense of the dogs, because when the dogs bite you, they're piercing, right?
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And so he's speaking of it from a whole different context, but it's so prophetic and it's nature.
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And, and that just, you know, blows my mind to be thinking about how those minute details
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Christ.
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And, and I think for those who are, you know, maybe in your audience who are not, don't
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know Jesus is their savior, are looking at this and thinking, man, is the Bible real.
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I mean, here it is.
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I mean, this is as real as it gets and it's so profound for me.
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And again, I think what we're talking about, one of the commentary said this and I just
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think it's so true.
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It says, no known incident in the life of David fit the details of the Psalm.
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David used many poetic expressions to portray his immense sufferings, but these poetic
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words became literally true of the suffering of Jesus at his enemies hands.
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And I just think that's so good.
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I mean, you, you said it right, Carlos, you know, he was, you know, belaboring this point
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of man.
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This is so rough.
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I'm in such a rough spot.
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But he's inspired by the spirit to speak it in such a way that it exactly is fulfilled
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by Christ.
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When I, so you're talking about verse 16 for dogs encompassed me a company of evil doers
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and circles of me.
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They have pierced my hands and my feet.
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And then, you know, I can count on my bones, you know, Ryan, what you were talking about.
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But yeah, to us, you know, 2000 years after Christ, we here pierced my hands and feet.
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All you think about is the crucifixion.
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Right.
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That's all you think about.
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But yeah, I didn't even think about that Russell, like that had to have been perplexing
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to the people that were reading this and David today.
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That's like, did David just make this up?
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Like this, you were attacked by dogs, bro, you killed a bear and a lion like with your,
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with your bare hands.
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So what are you worried about a dog for like some wild dogs?
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And so that's an important thing.
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It's like, it's there for a reason, but you don't always kind of know the reason.
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I know we're going to be going over a psalm here probably next week, or we'll get more
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into that.
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But again, as I alluded to earlier, there's that big shift in verse 22.
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So you can maybe read into this or not.
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Two thirds of this song are lament and then one third is praise starts with lament ends
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with praise.
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Now, when people say things like praise while you're in the storm for a guy like me, just
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to be honest, I'm very pessimistic.
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The sky's typically always falling and it works for me because it's always like have
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low expectations and then always be shocked by the level of excitement you'll experience.
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You know what I mean, as opposed to having these super high expectations, and then you're
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letting yourself down all the time.
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But again, that's just kind of how I'm wired.
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And that's how I operate.
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And that's how I've been competitive.
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And that's how I've just kind of gone.
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The praise in the storm thing is really hard for me because when I get mad or if I'm really
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struggling with something, it's almost just like the last thing I want to do.
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And this came up even here recently, you know, with my wife and I, there are there are times
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where it's like when I'm about to go do some Bible study time where that's like put the
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phone away, turn all the notifications off like when I'm about to do that or when I'm
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in the middle of that, we almost always fight.
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There's always something and it's a nothing fight to be to be clear.
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It's a fight about nothing, but we're mad.
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And I'm sitting there trying to read the song and I'm just like, I just, she just doesn't
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get it.
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Like I obviously said the right thing.
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And again, it's just like, it's just a little contagion that's just been put into my bloodstream
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and now it's just moving all the way through.
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And so I can't read this in any type of posture where I can accept it because I'm bad and
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it's like Satan's all over those types of things. And so he's, it's almost like he's
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keeping me from shifting from lament or in a less cool word, anger or just being a stupid
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ginger to into the praise part to where it's like, but here's all these great things that
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are happening.
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So I don't know about you normal, well adjusted people at the table, but for me, like that,
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that's rough, you know, to praise in the storm because I'm so worried about the storm whenever
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I'm in it.
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It's hard for me to praise.
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Everybody feels like praise is something that you do after something good has happened.
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So to praise in the storm is to skip the storm and to say that everything's already worked
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out and you know, it's going to be good at the end of the movie, no matter what.
40:06
So to praise in the storm takes a lot of interpersonal reflection to be able to just switch gears
40:15
while you're in the storm and say, all right, I either need to look in the mirror, I need
40:20
to pull the log out of my eye first or look at it from a different perspective.
40:26
Because if you just let yourself keep going and you blow up at your wife or you act out
40:33
irrationally, that's, you know, when Satan was offering Jesus all the lands of the world,
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if he would just believe in him, you know, that's Satan coming into your life in that
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moment.
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And if you blow up and you do those things, then that's you accepting all the lands from
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Satan, you know, in a different kind of way, so I'll just always every situation in my
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life.
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I constantly am telling myself, look in the mirror, look in the mirror, Zach, because
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it's got to be me first, I got to get out of my own way.
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I think it just comes down to storms.
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I don't think I've had storms in my life that have been kind of, you know, so crazy that
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I need to find praise in it.
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But I think that could do an interview you had with Tim Chalice and the storm that he
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went through in the loss of his son and how he still praised and they still worship God.
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And I hope to never find a storm like that.
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But if I do have a storm like that, I hope I have the same resolve.
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That was the thing with my interview with Tim Chalice and it was season of sorrow.
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I think it was the name of the book, if I recall.
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So his son died suddenly, just collapsed, died.
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And he basically journaled for the first year of mourning the loss of his son.
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I mean, I'm sitting there like I read it right over there.
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I usually sit right there on the floor and read read my books.
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And at the time I was reading that book, James was, he was two or was about to turn two and
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we had a newborn, Elijah, two sons, and I'm just like, I mean, I'm just in a puddle for
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most of the first part of that book because that's like, you know, right after the death
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and then he starts getting used to the new normal, like he'll never be fully healed from
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that really in terms of this earth, but you know, kind of his new normal.
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And you put yourself into his story because that's what we do, you know, whenever we're
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reading fiction or reading anything like that, like we put ourselves in the story.
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What would we do and how would we react in those types of things?
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And I was just astonished at his level of faith in that, man, this sucks, but it's going
42:36
to be okay because he got to meet the father before I didn't like it.
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That's cool.
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But I'm going to get to meet him too.
42:42
And it's like, again, when you're a negative person, you don't quite understand how something
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like that's possible, like I still to this day can't understand the people I forget the
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name of the church, but Dylan roof, a white supremacist walked into a black church.
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This was years ago and kills a bunch of people because he hated black people.
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That's why he did it.
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Okay.
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Anyone that says anything different, they're stupid and they're wrong.
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He walked in there because he knew and he sat in the pews first in an all black church,
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knowing what he was going to do.
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And he was welcomed and he was, you know, he was embraced and all that.
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And then he opened fire and killed a bunch of them 24 hours later.
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They are because you can see the video of this go look it up on YouTube.
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But one by one, the members of this church, the surviving members of this church who had
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their husbands, wives, daughters, grandkids, slain by Dylan roof, one by one came to him
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because there was like a camera where, you know, they could, you know, talk to this guy.
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And they all said, we love you.
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We forgive you.
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We hope you turn to Christ like he's the only thing that can save you.
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They're pleading with this murder that murdered their family members, please come to Christ.
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And I'm just like, I'm going to be real honest, guys, like, you know, maybe you listen to
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my words more than you listen to other people in your life.
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I am not capable of that unless something happened to me in that moment, where, you know, Jesus
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took the wheel.
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Jesus took the words from my mouth and put his words there.
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Like, and again, I don't know about for you guys, but, you know, even here in this area,
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there was a former coach for the thunder whose wife was killed in a kind of a deniberated
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drunk driving type situation and at her funeral, not only did he get up and address everybody,
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not only did he show tremendous poise, and he said, Hey, all of you here are praying
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for me and my family.
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I'll need to pray for their family too, because their family lost a daughter as well.
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They lost an aunt.
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They lost whatever.
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And I'm just like, man, I suck compared to these guys, like their level like Tim Challeys.
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And I forget the coach's name.
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Sorry, but I'd like to give him credit, but like, man, I don't know if it's different
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for you guys.
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Those things, it's like that that's really a gut check.
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Like, do I have that in me?
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It is.
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It's a gut check because I'm a vindictive person.
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I think that's something I struggle with.
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You were elected to be that way, right?
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You're predestined to be that, but yeah, it was predestined to be a sin that I have
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to fight.
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There you go.
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I have to have to rely on God on, but I feel him changing my heart on a lot of things.
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I don't hold that vindictive status towards certain things.
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But probably some things more than others I mean when it comes down to like just poor
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teaching or for bad theology, but it's something hard.
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I mean, I don't know what I would do if my daughter was taken from me or if my wife was
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taken from me or my sons were taken from me.
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And I would just hope that Christ dwells in me, that I put all of my faith and hope in
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the future in him to have what those people, to do what those people did because what they
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did is beautiful.
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And it's such a great picture of God that, you know, I don't have words to describe,
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but then it's beautiful.
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Yeah, it's really easy to say how is God working in this situation?
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You know, what is God trying to get me to see through this through the death of a family
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member through the loss of a friend through, like you were saying with the church and the
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shooting, it's just how did that congregation come together in such quickness and be able
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to understand like, how is God using this?
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And it's to maybe that that guy, the shooter needs to come to Christ.
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That's incredibly hard to understand for me, but yeah, that's one thing that I'll always
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try to ask myself, like, what is God working in this situation?
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And luckily, I haven't been directly affected with that type of situation, but we all got
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to be ready for in life.
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You know, life is very short and things can happen.
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And how are you going to react?
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Are you going to be steadfast or are you going to go to the Lord or?
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I mean, I know I kind of an aside a little bit to that, not nearly to that extent, but
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you know, something that, you know, an older gentleman who kind of pours into my life had
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me start doing a long time ago that I do often on now that really is helpful is to write down
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your prayer requests, you know, those, those prayer requests that, you know, you can see
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you answered and then write a date when they were answered, write, you know, what the answer
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was and a date.
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And just doing that over time, you see the faithfulness of God, right?
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Like numbers 2319 says, God is not a man that he should lie nor a son of man that he should
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repent.
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As he said, and will he not do it or has he not spoken, will he not make it good?
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Right?
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So there's this this faithfulness of God.
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But I think we have such a recency bias, like my children yesterday was yesterday and
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it was also five weeks ago too, like, like yesterday is yesterday, I mean, it's just,
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there's this stupid and they only remember like five minutes ago.
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And I think candidly we're the same way.
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And so, you know, we just when we're in a storm, we don't remember what God already
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did in our life, right?
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I mean, the faithfulness of like, I mean, you know, a healthy child, the faithfulness
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of, you know, our wives, the faithfulness of, you know, the things that we've been blessed
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with, right?
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And so doing that, right, I think practically is something that we can do as believers and
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then something that, you know, I'm a realistic pragmatist probably.
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In most of mine and Kyle, like you, I like to set low expectations and exceed them.
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But then when I get down the dumps, man, it's hard to get out of the dumps because if you
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set low expectations and you're in the dumps, you are really screwed.
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And so I, you know, just like a little thankful journal, right?
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So like every night trying to write one thing you're thankful for, and it becomes so much
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easier to kind of realize, man, there are so many things that I can be thankful for.
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And so I think sometimes it's, it's, there's just, you know, being practical about it helps
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us.
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Now when you're in a storm of losing us, losing a child or, you know, someone murders a family
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member or whatever, those are exceptional seasons that I think really God is just stepping into.
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But if you are, you know, your faith is being based on what you've seen over the last,
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you know, decade of your life or whatever, I think can help you.
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Well, there's a Christian apologetic through line to a lot of this as well.
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So even Zach, kind of what you were talking about.
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So it sounds really hard to say, but it's like those people in that church were murdered,
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maybe so that Dylan Roof and others would come to Christ.
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And I don't know this to be the case.
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How many people watched the video of those family members talking to Dylan Roof and they're
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like, oh, that's what Christianity is.
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It's not hating gay people.
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It's not telling me I'm not allowed to drink or dance in public.
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Like that's, that's the gospel.
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Holy crap.
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The gospel, like, and for the first time ever, the gospel suddenly makes sense because so
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when people, you know, use, use the thing, they're like, oh, you know, why do bad things
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happen to good people of the apologetic where you can get into, okay, what do you mean by
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bad?
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What do you mean by good?
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And you can kind of like go through the moral law argument.
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But here's the deal is like, and you've seen people do this before where they draw a circle
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and they ask someone, Hey, what is your knowledge of all the knowledge?
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What is your understanding of all the things that can be known in the universe?
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Like put a percentage on it.
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Like you of all the knowledge in the universe, how much of it do you have?
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And if they're honest, it's way less than 1% right?
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So if you look at it in terms of a pie chart, you got this little bitty sliver of the stuff
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that you know and understand and then there's everything else.
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And so it's like, is it possible that the rape and murder of that young girl that there
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is a positive that could come out of such a horrifically terrible story for everyone involved.
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They're family members, the person that did it.
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And I go back to whenever I visited Lewisburg prison and I'm sitting there interacting with
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shaking hands with rapists, kidnappers, bank robbers, murderers, I know one guy for certain
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had killed four people.
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And here I am just sitting there chatting and having a conversation.
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Well, he wasn't a Christian whenever he took those lives and he's going to pay for what
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he did to those people for the rest of his life here on this planet because he's never
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going to see the outside of that prison.
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But he's in Christ's hands now and his name is in the lambs book of life and he was able
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to redeem that situation.
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So again, that may be a hard thing for the families of the forest lane people that that
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he killed, but that's that's the gospel there.
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And I think that's the thing that a lot of us miss.
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It's kind of the thing that I said before, as you're reading the Bible, regardless what
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you're reading, it's telling the same story at all points of the gospel of Jesus Christ,
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every last bit of it, even if it doesn't seem like it, because here you are quote numbers,
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it's like, I don't know a whole lot of people quote numbers, you know, walking around the
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book of numbers that is for guys that aren't really paying attention.
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Now before we wrap up here, again, the last 10 verses or so, you know, from verse 22,
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all the way through the end of verse 31, it's all the praise portions.
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Was there something in particular that stood out for you guys in that that that portion
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in terms of, you know, turning lament into praise?
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I just didn't want to sell anybody short on any of that because we covered it kind of,
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you know, 30,000 foot view.
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I just like the mirroring of the gospel in this, in that, you know, through the lament
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that Christ went through, the lament that we go through, lamenting, you know, our earthly
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problems compared to what Christ did for us.
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I think it, I just like how it mirrors that there's praise in the end with Christ, you're
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going to find redemption, I'd like to go back, you know, Psalms 2 towards the end there,
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you know, that we talked about last week, you know, kiss the sun and that's what we need
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to do.
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We need to submit to the sun and seeing just kind of the correlation between this and
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Matthew just kind of showed the, the, the beautifulness of the gospel.
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Yeah, I think, you know, verse 27, 28, you know, this is all the ends of the earth.
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I'm reading from the NASB, by the way, all the ends of the earth will remember and turn
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to the Lord and all the families of the nations will worship before you.
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But the kingdom is the Lord's and he rolls over the nations and just an extent of God's
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reign.
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I mean, it is in totality.
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I mean, it is everything, right?
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And I think, you know, we're here in, you know, small town of Oklahoma, no, that small,
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but, you know, small town of Oklahoma, right?
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Just a dot on this faith of this planet, you know, and, and it wasn't that long ago
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that our church, you have a missions update and it was amazing to me.
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There's three billion people who are unreached, right?
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And just think about that.
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I mean, that is, you know, like 40% of the population of this earth, right?
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Don't have either any translate, Bible translated or even a Christian or a church in their
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vicinity.
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And so just thinking about that and being thankful that, you know, God's mission is to
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cover all of it, to cover everyone and he covered everyone on the cross and he wants
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to reach everyone.
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So, this is just beautiful and I hope that, you know, people understand, you know, Christ,
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what he did on the cross for everyone.
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What about you, Zach?
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Yeah, just the totality of what Christ did for us on the cross and what that offers is
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the fact that there's only hope and faith and freedom are only offered through Christ.
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And that's what I take away from Christ's work on the cross is the only way to experience
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freedom in this life.
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And I think in verse 26, that's the one that stood out for me, the afflicted shall eat
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and be satisfied, the afflicted.
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And so those are the people that are going through the storm.
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So the afflicted, those who have lost their sons suddenly, those who have had a member
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of their family that was raped, those who have had, you know, something that have physically
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befallen them, afflicted shall eat and be satisfied.
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But it's the next part.
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That's the key.
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Those who seek him shall praise the Lord, may your hearts live forever.
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Again, you know, Psalm 34, 10, the young lions suffer one hunger, but those who seek the
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Lord lack no good thing, again, young lions can take care of themselves in every way,
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shape and form, but they will suffer one hunger at some point.
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But it's only those that seek after the Lord that are seeking things that are in their
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totality.
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Good.
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And so I think a great thing about Psalm 22 is to understand that there's not a lament
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that is unknown to God and there's not a lament that is technically unique to you.
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I mean, you're the only person like you that's ever been created, but what is befalling you
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has befallen people before people from the line, you know, that produce the line of David
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that that produced the Savior of the planet, but also anything that could go wrong.
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I go to Job. I mean, we've had some real parts of our lives, guys, and rough parts
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of our marriage and rest parts and business.
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We've never been jobed. The dude became a verb. Like that's like, that's how rough his
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life was, right? And so I think that's a great thing for all of us to remember. And there's
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more to talk about here, but we're going to go ahead and leave it there. But come back
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next Sunday, guys, where we will dig into Psalm 30. And that is going to be the last
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song we dig into. And then we'll get into the next one from there. But guys, make sure
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