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This is Undaunted Life a Man's Podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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Welcome back to the forging table.
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The mission of Undaunted Life is equipping men to push back dark notes with content that
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forges spiritual mental and physical resilience.
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At the forging table, you'll see a group of regular guys forging spiritual resilience
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by digging into God's Word and we're welcoming all of you to come along on that journey with
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us.
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That's Zach who doesn't know how timers work and that's Adam and that's Winklers.
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This is the first time we've ever had this crew before.
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I think so.
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I've been with Zach.
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I haven't been with Adam yet.
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So what's up with the hats on one side of the table and then we're over here bathed and
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shaved and all that.
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What's going on?
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I'm bold.
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So I don't like the glare from the light that would probably be.
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Is it because you stare at yourself on the bottom during the entire time?
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Yeah.
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It's like staring into the sun.
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It makes it weird.
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Yeah.
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It's for all of us as well.
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I've heard that guys that wear hats.
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It's a sign of intelligence.
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So is it?
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Where did you hear that?
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That's like that's not a thing.
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Everybody knows this.
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That's not a thing.
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Well, it depends on what's written on the hat because if there's like a red sea and it's
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like a royal blue hat, you know, that's like typically, you know, you're just.
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It's just a sign of humility.
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I took AI through a process recently of having it try to make the most sense of all the actual
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evidence that we see from history, from the Bible, from every type of facet you could
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think about.
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In long story short, it built a case and then I had it built a case against that and then
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try to produce what it said was the best explanation of the evidence that we have today.
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Long story short, it came out and literally said that Christianity based on all the historical
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facts our human experience, et cetera, was the best explanation.
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The Epic of Gilgamesh does not have the majority of those types of things to consider and I
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think we can kind of get lost in that.
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One point we talked about earlier is if you believe in the complete destruction in the
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flood of all human, you know, and anything that has the breath of life, then by definition
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you also have to accept that there's no genetic material being passed down from these demigods.
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You know, Hercules is not being passed down.
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Except I thought of one exception to that, let's go.
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So and I'm not arguing for this exception, but I'm just saying it's possible.
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So no no egg flood, everyone was cleared out, but it wasn't just the family of Noah that
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was on the boat.
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It was the extended family of Noah.
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And so there is a chance that some of the demigod products were the wives of Noah's progeny.
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Okay.
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So that was the one thing where I was like, okay, there's possible fear, but that's also
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under the complete control of God himself, right complete sovereignty.
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Yeah.
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So I guess the one thing I would say, and I sent a little video on this, but at least
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where I land is part of it goes back to what are the actual things referencing in the original
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languages.
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Right.
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So I'll just read this because I think it's a good summary.
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It says the term sons of God refers to angels in Job 1 6 2 1 and 38 7, but these are unfallen
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angels faithfully serving God.
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The emphasis on Genesis 6 is on the sin of man and not the rebellion of angels.
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So the Hebrew word for man is used nine times in verse one through seven, nine times.
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And God states clearly that the judgment was coming because of what humans had done.
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Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and every intent of
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the thought of his heart was only evil continually.
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And lastly, it says, the most likely interpretation of Genesis 6 4 is that God saw the people
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of the day as fallen ones while men saw these people as mighty leaders.
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So if you go back to, I mean, it's not as exciting as the Hercules, you know, part of
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this, but it probably makes more sense the way that it's being referenced.
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And in terms of angels being fallen, you have 200 outside of the domain of heaven, but it
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doesn't necessarily mean that they have to come down and have intercourse with human
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women.
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Right.
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Adam, but before diving into this, I honestly had always assumed that it was the fallen
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angel theory.
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That's what was always in my mind.
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But I can't think of another time in scripture where angels have come down and taken the
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form of a human, which you would assume would have had to have happened in order for them
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to have sex with a woman.
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There are times we see about guardian angels and stuff like that, but I don't necessarily,
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because we talked about that somewhat recently, but I don't think they were necessarily in
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human form.
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Exactly.
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I don't think they're ever described that I can recall that they're ever described as
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taking human form, which would have to happen to have sex with a woman.
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So was it in Nehemiah or was it somewhere else where effectively angels were seen surrounding
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the, I think it was the construction of something and people perceived that that was the army.
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So they didn't attack.
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But I feel like they're always described with grandeur in fear and as if whatever it is
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that they look like.
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Right.
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Not described.
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They have like 74 eyes.
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Right.
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They're not like people.
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They're not described as human.
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Yeah.
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They'll be required.
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Sure.
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So for that reason, you mentioned the king, this is called, they called it the kings of
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the warriors theory.
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So some scholars interpret the Nephilim as referring to mighty man or warriors of renown who were
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known for their strength, power, or deeds.
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In this view, the Nephilim were not supernatural beings, but simply super, simply powerful
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human rulers or giants noted for their achievements and fame.
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At the end of the day, all of these different theories, I felt like this wrapped it up pretty
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well.
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What is clear, however, is that the Nephilim are tied to a time of great wickedness and
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corruption in the human race, which led to God's decision to judge the earth through
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the flood.
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The story of the Nephilim emphasizes the gravity of humanity's moral decline and the need for
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God's intervention in the world, which I think that's the most important part of the story.
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That's where we're not.
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One quick name before we've been too far off that, just a quick search.
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So in Genesis, angels appear to Abraham in human form, and they appear to a lot in Sodom
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and Gomorrah in human form.
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So they weren't just like in crazy angel form, in human form.
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Book of Daniel, an angel appears in human form when it speaks to Daniel.
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Also in the New Testament, to announce the birth of Jesus Christ, an angel came to Joseph
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in human form as well.
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And so I guess not that there's like reading between the lines.
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So I guess there were times and there were angels that were literally manifesting in
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human form, but we're not seeing that they interacted physically with other humans besides
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killing them.
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Right.
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That's an interaction.
29:58
So real quick before, because we do need to get to get to the flood here.
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Can I make one point?
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Yeah, go ahead.
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Go ahead.
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In terms of the giant theory, I don't think we have any evidence that points to that being
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a reality.
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I'm trying to think about.
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I'm right.
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I'm right here.
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All right.
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Touche.
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All right.
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Touche.
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Not at 15 feet or not though, right?
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So I mean, but literally, I mean, in all seriousness, there's so many people that talk
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about it.
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You see these crazy pictures online, yet we have evidence for these massive dinosaurs
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and everything else going through some period of time, but we don't have overwhelming evidence
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for giants either.
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Well, you've gone down the Ken Ham rabbit hole and like they swear that there are human
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femur bones that are like, you know, 10 feet tall and stuff like I don't know if that's
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exactly his crew.
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I didn't see those.
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Okay.
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But like I've heard of people talking about, oh, we discovered, you know, one of the flanges
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or whatever, like they discovered like human finger bones that are just like astonishingly
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big.
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And so like, yeah, Sasquatch people like are like, oh, it's a squatch.
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And then like, you know, the Bible is exactly this many years old because words and stuff.
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Like they're like, they're like this, like this is, you know, this kind of goes back to
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the giant theory or all that.
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You haven't really seen any of that.
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No.
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I mean, to be honest with you, I don't really have a lot of heartburn over who they are
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and what they, what they're doing.
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I mean, I look at it and says, okay, well, this is the word they use for giants.
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I mean, going back to just revolutionary times and how people thought of George Washington
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at six to, I mean, six to ginger with wooden teeth, like, yeah, astonishing imagine that
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level of crazy.
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Come your direction.
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I think one thing I do want to point out here just as, as we're thinking about, because
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I know what you want to get to the flood, but, you know, in chapter, in, in chapter three,
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Genesis three, we're outlining the fall of man, Genesis four is outlining the fall of
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the family.
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And now we're seeing the fall of society, humanity as well.
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Yeah, humanity in general.
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And I think one of the things that's kind of interesting here is the progression of
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sin that essentially it started with one person and then a family fell apart and then a whole
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society falls apart.
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Right.
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Right.
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Real quick, before we get to the flood, I do want to camp on one particular topic on
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verses five through eight.
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So Zach, if you'll read Genesis six, five through eight, real quick.
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The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every intention
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of the thoughts of his heart was only evil, continually.
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And the Lord regretted that he had made man on earth and it grieved him to his heart.
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So the Lord said, I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, man
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and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens for I am sorry that I have made
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them.
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But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.
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Adam, you have the NIV right there?
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Mm-hmm.
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Will you read the beginning of verse six in the NIV?
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The Lord regretted.
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Okay.
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So it's regretted in that one as well.
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So obviously the big thing here is that the Lord regretted and it's like, how is omniscience
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a thing and how can also, how can that be possible?
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Because there is no shock and awe and there's also no disappointment when you know what's
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going to happen.
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Right?
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It's kind of like, you know, if you've seen the shocking movie, like no one watches the
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sixth sense a second time because you can't because you're just like, or you watch it to
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be like, how was I so dumb?
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How did I not spoiler alert the movies like 20 years old?
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But yeah, Bruce Willis is dead the whole time.
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Right?
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Right?
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It's shocking maybe the first time and then you may go back and watch it and be like,
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what did exactly do I miss?
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But it's like, it's not shocking the second time because you know it.
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I will say whenever I was looking through the moody commentary, help me with this, that
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there are other translations to where it's like, you know, ESV is God regretted, but others
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are like God was pained or was sorrowful or grieved or was sad, you know, and then, you
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know, when it said later in the ESV grieved him to his heart that that was indignant rage.
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It is still a little confusing to me, though, like why would God be grieved by something
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that he knew would happen, which again, you might know that something's going to happen
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and it'll still grieve you like, you know, someone's on hospice.
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They're about to die.
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And when they do die, it's still going to make you sad, even though you knew it was coming.
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So any thoughts on that before we move on to the flood?
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Let me let me let me just ask if this makes sense.
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Who was this written to?
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Who is this supposed to be addressed to?
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Is it addressed to God or to us?
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It's to us, right?
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Yeah.
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So this is this is inspired word written for our purposes, right?
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So this made sense to me because I tripped over this too.
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So this is called, and we're in Oklahoma.
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This is a big word.
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I don't know if I can pronounce this word.
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Get it.
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Anthropomorphic.
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Anthropomorphic.
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Yeah.
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Anthropomorphic language.
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So this says, we're human emotions and experiences are ascribed to God in a way that allows human
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readers to relate to divine actions.
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Same thing as what Disney does with animals.
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They give animals big eyes and cute mouths.
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So they make them human-like so that it's not weird.
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Yeah.
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We've got a rabbit that has an erection and we're going to call him a thumper.
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And so he's going to get twitter pated, right?
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What?
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What just happened?
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Where am I at?
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The rabbit's twitter pated.
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What is twitter pated?
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You don't know about twitter pated?
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You need to watch Bambi.
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What?
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I mean, I did when I was four.
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Like I don't remember, you were here now.
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You never.
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So you have to explain.
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Have you ever heard the word twitter pated?
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I remember thumper.
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I remember thumper.
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And he's excited because it's a rabbit.
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Right.
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Rabbits are always running around having sex, having little kids, having little bunnies.
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It's like a thing.
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That's what twitter pated is.
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Twitter pated is this rabbit doesn't know what he's doing.
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So his legs start going up and forth back and forth and like, what's happening though?
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He's twitter pated.
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How does that come back to God?
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Don't worry about it.
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I'm worried.
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I'm worried about it.
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It's great about it.
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It's a perfect language.
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Okay.
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We're in a moment.
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Don't forget.
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Okay.
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He already knows the outcome of creation and the decisions of humans yet the Bible uses
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human language to convey God's grief over humanity's sin and rebellion.
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Just so we can understand.
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Yeah.
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So it's, yeah.
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So, okay, it's bringing it back so that we can understand what God's emotion was.
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Not that he didn't know.
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He already knew what the answer was going to be.
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I think it's very, very similar.
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My mind went to Lazarus because Jesus wept and he was emotional, but he knew and he knew
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it was going to happen.
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He did it.
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He knew what he was about to do.
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Yeah.
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But if we're made in the image of God, I think it clearly states that God has emotion just
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like we do.
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So if you get, just quick, if you get real mad on like social media and you post a lot
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of things all at once, is that Twitter painting or is that, that's not the, that's not the
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same thing?
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No, not.
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It's not.
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You said, you said Facebook, not, not, or X.
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It's X.
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It's not X or painting.
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Or is that.
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X or painting.
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X or painting.
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All right.
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Jake, you look like you've completely disengaged from this.
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I don't know.
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No, no, no, I need to take my hat off.
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No.
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This is not the smart side of the table anymore.
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Yeah.
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It seemed like things have leaned this way heavily.
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So hey, Jake, how about you bring us back to fun things.
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This is one of the funniest things about it because when you get into Noah's flood,
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because obviously I have two kids that are like Sunday school age, like four and two.
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And I love some of the memes to where it's like, if, you know, kids Sunday school were
37:13
accurate and it literally just shows people drowning and despair like on outside of this
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boat while it's this horrible storm.
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But let's get to know in the flood.
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So read at nine through the end of chapter six.
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These are the generations of Noah.
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Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation.
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Noah walked with God and Noah had three sons, Shim, Ham, and Japheth.
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Now, the earth was corrupt in God's sight and the earth was filled with violence.
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And God saw God saw the earth and behold, it was corrupt for all flesh had corrupted their
37:46
way on the earth.
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And God said to Noah, I had determined to make an end of all flesh for the earth is filled
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with violence through them.
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Behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
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Make yourself an arc of gopher wood, make rooms in the arc and cover it inside and out
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with the pitch.
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This is how you are to make it the length of the arc 300 qubits.
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It's breath, 50 qubits, and it's height, 30 qubits.
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Make a roof for the arc and finish it to a qubit above and set the door of the arc in
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its side.
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Make it with lower second and third decks.
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For behold, I will bring a flood of waters upon the earth to destroy all flesh in which
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is the breath of life under heaven, everything that is on the earth shall die.
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But I will establish my covenant with you and you shall come into the arc you, your sons,
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your wife, and your son's wives with you, and of every living thing of all flesh, you
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shall bring two of every sort into the arc to keep them alive with you.
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They shall be male and female of the birds according to their kinds and of the animals
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according to their kinds of every creeping thing of the ground according to its kind.
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Two of every sort shall come into you and to keep them alive.
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So take with you every sort of food that is eaten and store it up.
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It shall serve as food for you and for them.
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No one did this.
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He did all that God commanded it.
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So I feel like we could go down quite a few rabbit holes here.
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So I just want to throw out just a few things that we might miss.
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So when it gives the qubits of what the arc is supposed to be, we're looking at approximations
39:26
of about 450 feet long, what would it be?
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75 feet tall and 45 wide or it's either yeah, I may have got the wide and tall mixed up.
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And then also I always like a different point struggle with like, wait a minute.
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So it was just Noah's family and so everyone else died.
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So you know, everyone is a descendant of like an incestuous sexual relationship.
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We'll know in verse 18, it says that, you know, your son's wives will be with you.
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And so, you know, Noah's son's already had wives and so no, it's not, you know, an incestuous
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thing.
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It just kind of goes down the line from there.
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Also the animals in verse 20, the animals came to Noah because some people will argue
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like, hey, how could Noah go and gather two giraffes and two of this and two of that?
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And we might get into the different sorts because obviously people are like, so you're
40:09
telling me there were two Dalmatians and two golden retrievers and two pit bulls and two
40:12
all that.
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It's like, no, there are two canines.
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So not even like two wolves because canine, you have wolves, you have foxes, you have
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coyotes, you have domesticated dogs, all those types of things.
40:23
But there's one thing that I remember hearing Mark Driscoll talk about, but also I remember
40:28
going through, if we go all the way back to verse 11, now the earth was corrupt in God's
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site and the earth was filled with violence.
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The word used there for violence is Hamas, which is very interesting in our modern day
40:40
because some people think there's a demon behind every bush and then there are others
40:45
that think there's two behind every bush.
40:47
And some people are just like, yeah, there's angels and demons, but they're not really
40:50
messing around with humanity.
40:51
But if we go all the way back to this time, the way that Driscoll described is like, there's
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a spirit of Hamas.
40:57
And then if you look at the separation of sons and then you have the break off that leads
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towards God's chosen people, Christianity, and then you get into where, you know, the
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roots of Islam and then we see things that are happening today in the Middle East around
41:11
Israel and all that.
41:12
And then you have this group Hamas that literally in their charter is the destruction of a people
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group based on an immutable characteristic that they can't control.
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I found that to be more than interesting, but there's a lot of interesting things to
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go through in terms of the lead up to the flood.
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So y'all go there wherever you want to go.
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Well, I mean, one of the things that I want to start with is I think just kind of getting
41:31
an idea of the size of this boat, I mean, yes, I went to the Ark Museum and I mean they
41:35
rebuilt it and it's enormous, but Kentucky, yes, Kentucky, yeah, you'd also been on a
41:42
carnival cruise.
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And so it's Kyle.
41:44
Yeah, yeah.
41:45
Well, I mean, I haven't ever been on a cruise because I don't fit on cruise ships, but
41:48
the Titanic was over 800 feet long.
41:51
Queen Mary was over 1100 feet long.
41:53
The Santa Maria is actually over 100 feet long.
41:56
So when you start thinking about a boat that's about 450 to 550 feet long, depending on what
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type of qubit you're using, it's very possible to build a boat of this size, even back them,
42:08
especially if they have Nephilim who are actually bringing them whatever they need.
42:13
So very, very possible that that could be that could be done.
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So I don't know if anybody else has any thoughts on the size of the boat and how that's completely
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feasible.
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I've actually found any consternation with the size of the boat, to be honest, just
42:27
because when I understood what they were talking about when it came to sorts or kinds or things
42:31
like that, because I was originally like, how can you have two of every kind of snake?
42:34
How can you have two of every kind of whatever?
42:35
And that's like, even in my answer in my head, it's like, you know, could it have been like
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two reptiles?
42:43
Could it have been something like that?
42:44
And it's like, how far do we do we take the argument?
42:47
So yeah, when you break down the kinds of animals, so, you know, Adam, you and I were
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talking about this just a little before, when you break down the kinds of animals, again,
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it's not species.
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So even-
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Yeah.
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It's kingdom, phylum, or family genus species.
42:59
So where would it have-
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Well, and when you actually do, if you're just going by kinds, and if you'd wanted to say,
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like, okay, you know, it's not grizzly bear, polar bear, black bear, it's bear kind, okay?
43:11
Well, when you start breaking it down in that manner, now you start talking about you're
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talking about under 1400 animals.
43:18
I think it's 13-9-8. Did y'all spreadsheet this out?
43:20
I can feel a spreadsheet coming because there's heavy CPA presence on the other side of this
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table.
43:25
I mean, Adam did a lot more spreadsheeting than I did, but I definitely did some.
43:29
So 85% of the animals would lay way less than 22 pounds.
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Oh, here we go.
43:34
7%.
43:35
Do I need to be taking these notes?
43:36
You could.
43:37
Okay.
43:38
So 7% would be between 22 and 220, and 8% would weigh more than 220 pounds.
43:44
So you're talking about not a ton of animals.
43:48
When you start talking about there's about 1400, I should have done the math on that.
43:52
But you're not talking about a whole lot.
43:57
When you say 8% of 1400, what's that number?
44:00
Help me out CPA.
44:01
You don't have a cell right there.
44:03
I don't have my cell.
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I found it.
44:05
Did you say 8% of 1400?
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Yeah.
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1200-ish, 11, 1200?
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8%.
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8%.
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8% of 1400.
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Well, well, 10%s, oh, 1400.
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1400.
44:14
Oh, so 140 minus a little bit, so maybe 1200-ish, or 110, 120.
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Yeah.
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So 120.
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Okay.
44:23
And then you start thinking about, okay, it doesn't say anywhere that these are all
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fully grown animals, they could be smaller animals.
44:31
So like you think of elephants, well, how'd you get elephants on the ark?
44:33
Well, they could be two baby elephants.
44:37
And then you start thinking of the gestation period of some of the larger mammals that
44:41
would have actually gone on there.
44:42
That elephant's like 22 months.
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Correct.
44:45
So if they were going to have any offspring, it would have been well after the time they
44:48
were on the ark because they were only on the ark for about 371 days.
44:52
So it's entirely possible to fit kinds of animals on there.
44:57
I'm not even going to get into the dinosaur debate because I think I'm going to lose
45:00
people.
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But do you think dinosaurs on the boat?
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I think there were dinosaurs on the boat.
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Guys.
45:06
Wow.
45:07
I'm that guy.
45:08
Really?
45:09
I'm that guy.
45:10
Okay, so in kingdom, violent, class order, family, genome species, where would it have
45:14
been like it would have been even a species?
45:16
Dude, what's funny about that?
45:18
I don't think I've said that since seventh grade.
45:20
But like Mr. whoever my seventh grade teacher was like hammer that into us and I think that's
45:24
the only thing I learned.
45:25
But like where would that have stopped?
45:27
I would say probably Phylum.
45:29
Which right below kingdom, which makes sense if you're going to have that broad of categories.
45:33
But what are like examples of Phylum?
45:36
Yeah, I don't know that.
45:37
Okay, but anyway, go to your like dinosaur thing since we're already like so.
45:41
So like what would be a phylum of dinosaurs?
45:43
Would it just be dinosaur kind or would it be like diverse dinosaurs and herbivore?
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Is that a word?
45:50
Dinosaurs.
45:51
No, I think it's just dino kind.
45:53
Dino kind.
45:54
I mean, they they have different t-shirts.
45:55
Well, I should say dinosaur kind, but there was like different types of dinosaurs.
45:59
Like it wasn't just carnivore and herbivore, but there was like, you know, this, you know,
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I don't know.
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I didn't go into I did not prepare for this part.
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So I didn't refresh my memory.
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I'm sorry.
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We're just we'll do it live, but we'll do it live.
46:13
But yes, I mean, I guess if you're going to ask me why I think they're there, I think
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the the consistent references to dragons throughout human human history, oh, yeah, come on.
46:28
The consistent references to dragons throughout human history with coupled with the idea that
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the first fossils were not actually discovered.
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First dinosaur fossils weren't actually discovered until I think the 1600s.
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So well, maybe 14 years ago, I think it was like a couple hundred years ago.
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It wasn't that long ago.
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It wasn't.
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No, it's well, I mean, we talked about it on previous.
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Right.
46:51
But you had references as dragons dating back centuries, even, you know, prior to with trying
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to think when it was the earliest one, I think they had like Egyptian dragons document a
47:02
discovery.
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Because it's entirely possible that lots of people saw them going about their day and
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just didn't say anything.
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And it wasn't the mechanism.
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Right.
47:12
Right.
47:13
So.
47:14
But anyways, I guess I guess what I'm saying is, yes, do I think that there were maybe not
47:17
like do I know, I don't know, but do I think that it's possible?
47:21
Yeah, it's entirely possible that they're there.
47:23
And I think just the documented references to dragons, pre the fossil discoveries actually
47:29
kind of, you know, how do you dream up a dragon?
47:31
Well, and we went into a deep dragon discussion, discussing the first four chapters of Genesis,
47:37
but just to kind of, you know, bring it full circle in the biology lesson for phylum.
47:41
Like there are, I guess, you know, big categories of phylum.
47:44
So there's phylum prototizoa.
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So those would be like, you know, unicellular organisms, amoebas, you know, those types
47:49
of things.
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Phylum porifera.
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So those are sponges, phylum nadaria, which are like jellyfish coral, phylum stenfora,
47:59
which are, I can't pronounce any of that, phylum plathym minthees.
48:03
And so those are tapeworms, flatworms, and then phylum, not even a tribe, roundworms.
48:08
And then we've got phylum anelidia.
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Those are more types of worms.
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Then there's anthropoda, which are like crabs, prawn, scorpion, spiders.
48:19
And then there's melusca.
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So those are clams, octopus, snails, itchindar meinata, sea urchin, sea cucumbers, chordata,
48:30
which is all vertebrates.
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And so all vertebrates would be one phylum.
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Yeah.
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So pry not phylum, pry not phylum has to be below that because, I mean, class, there's
48:41
no water.
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I mean, there's no water animals on the arc.
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That was going to be one of my questions.
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Did all the fish die?
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No.
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What about the?
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Oh, well, it says the birds die, right?
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They just have to be.
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They're in the water.
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But why did the fish get all the preference?
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Preferential treatment.
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It says everything on Earth will perish.
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On Earth, not in water.
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Or that's still the Earth's door.
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If you're on the cruise ship in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, you're still on Earth.
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We are on Earth, but because we are not in water.
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I think they would have had to have survived because they weren't on the arc if they weren't
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on the...
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You don't, I mean, they're not putting a, they're not going to put a whale on the arc.
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They'll have, the whale would be in the water.
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Anything that was in the water, it does not need to be on the boat.
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And there would have been no reason to have two of a whale kind of...
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I'll count, I think you're right, but let's play devil's advocate.
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Whales live in salt water.
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What kind of water came out of the sky or out of...
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That's out of the Earth.
49:42
Well, I mean, all types.
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Yeah, you put a whale in fresh water.
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That sucker's dead.
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You put, you know, a largemouth bass in salt waters.
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That's why you're putting limitations on God here, Adam.
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I mean, what...
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That is a hell of a thing to say, a forging table.
49:56
Careful.
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What I'm saying is depending on the pocket that they're in, I mean, there's different
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areas of the Earth right now where you have fresh water merging with salt water.
50:09
And there's degrees of saltiness within just like, I think where the Mississippi River
50:15
meets like the Gulf of Mexico.
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They call it brackish water.
50:19
Yes.
50:20
Okay.
50:21
Yeah.
50:22
Yeah.
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And so there's different degrees of saltiness.
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So I would say there's probably pockets that was very salty and there was probably pockets
50:29
that were more fresh, which would have allowed the fish and any other species that were
50:33
congregated in those areas to start to remain in areas that were hospitable.
50:38
I agree with you.
50:39
I think they had to survive.
50:41
They had to survive some way.
50:42
They weren't on the boat, but it's frustrating that it's not clear.
50:45
Yeah.
50:46
Well, if you just take it logically, I think it is clear because by definition, if he
50:56
killed everything, then clearly the things that were on the boat probably had to come
51:05
from land because to his point, I don't think it talks about ushering in two kinds of whales.
51:10
But one stat that got me, because I went down a rabbit hole and I think I kind of arrived
51:13
at the same point that I'm at with creation, generally speaking, if you go back to the
51:19
what we know, at least with modern physics, take that for what it's worth, according to
51:23
the calculations they put together, if you took the entire circumference of the earth
51:27
and what it's capable of holding and producing in terms of water, you could not come up with
51:33
the model that would allow for the amount of water that they're talking about to cover
51:37
the entire earth, which is based on how it covered the mountains.
51:42
So it's almost like by definition, everything that we're talking about is encompassed and
51:46
likely a divine miracle of some sort.
51:49
Yeah.
51:50
So to me, it's almost like we need to stop mopping the floors and just turn off the faucet
51:54
because likely there's going to be a whole bunch of divine miracle type things that are
51:58
occurring just to happen.
51:59
Yeah.
52:00
I think one of the things, and I think I said this on a previous episode, but when you stop
52:04
thinking about the earth as something that just as basically was set in motion turned
52:10
off and is predictable and start thinking about it as a personally governed space, then
52:17
you can start going, okay, what is seems impossible biblically?
52:22
When I read this, what seems impossible is entirely possible because I can't put limitations
52:29
on what God can do.
52:30
Back on the animal thing.
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Certainly.
52:32
Yeah.
52:33
Back on the animal thing real quick.
52:34
Apparently there is a status above kingdom and that's domain.
52:40
And so there are apparently three main domains of life, which are our archaea bacteria and
52:45
eukarya and then you get into kingdoms.
52:48
And so there are seven kingdoms of biology.
52:50
That's bacteria, archaea, prototazoa, chromista, plantae, fungi and anamelea.
52:56
And so it's like for it to make sense in terms of the actual boat, I feel like you can't
53:02
get below.
53:04
So there's domain kingdom, phylum class.
53:06
I feel like you can't get below really below class because start when you when you're getting
53:10
into class, because Cordata phylum there, that's mammals, reptiles, amphibians.
53:17
I don't think there were two mammals on the boat, two reptiles and two amphibians.
53:21
And so it seems like you would at least need to go down to class.
53:24
I don't want to go too far down this rabbit hole, but it's just it's almost like you could
53:27
just go to kinds and then maybe humans have put our own little scale on this in terms
53:34
of where we're supposed to fall.
53:36
God had a totally different strata that he just said, it's kinds of animals.
53:43
So I mean, I guess I would say it probably fits somewhere in between the two, the areas
53:49
that we've designated as well, where do species fit into the hierarchical?
53:54
Okay.
53:55
Does that make sense?
53:56
Just one question.
53:57
As I know you mentioned some, some thoughts on the flood, I mean, I've gone down the rabbit
54:02
hole for a couple of years on this kind of thing.
54:05
And again, like I'm just back to it seems like there must be miracle portions of this
54:08
because if you were to base it on what we know today, just based just based on stratigraphy
54:13
and all sorts of other things, the the objective evidence as far as we understand it does not
54:18
seem to point to this.
54:20
Now I know, because I've got lots of friends that tell me all the answers are in Kentucky
54:23
that we should go there and check it out and I need to go and I'm and I'm open minded
54:27
too.
54:28
But it's only after you visit the bourbon trail, but go ahead and keep going.
54:30
It's a rock in the shoe.
54:31
I guess my question for you would just be in terms of how you've landed on this.
54:37
What is important for you to be true for you to feel comfortable with this?
54:42
Is it a literal interpretation?
54:45
Is it how critical is it for you to know that this literally happened the way that it said
54:50
that it did?
54:51
How critical to our faith?
54:52
What?
54:53
Yeah.
54:54
I guess, and I said this on a previous episode, but a house built on Jesus says house built
55:03
on sand, you know, and it foolish to build a house on, I don't know the verse and this
55:08
is not my gifting.
55:09
I say this all the time.
55:10
I can't quote scripture in that way, but but a house built a solid foundation on solid
55:16
rock and I look at Genesis as this is the foundation of scripture.
55:22
Genesis is God creating creation that nothing comes from anything without Genesis essentially
55:31
being true.
55:33
It's the foundational scripture.
55:35
So in your, if you're asking like, well, how important is it that all of this happened?
55:39
I would go, I think it's pretty darn important.
55:42
I think it's if, if Genesis isn't true, as it's written and as it said, if Genesis isn't
55:50
true, what else isn't true?
55:52
You use a phrase you said, essentially true.
55:54
And so again, we, categories are important, but also themes are important and what category
56:00
they fall into.
56:01
So is it like, is it true, like this is a pin and I just hit the table with it is true?
56:06
Or is it true as if like I am making a statement using this pin and hitting something because
56:11
that's when we get into, is Jesus literally a door that we knock on?
56:14
Is he literally a vine in John 15?
56:17
Yeah.
56:18
Like how, how literal does it have to be?
56:20
Because I mean, if we just unhitch from the Old Testament, all this is easy, but it's
56:23
like, you know, how literal does it have, have to be?
56:26
And I'm not, I'm not saying I'm not leaving a door where we can like jettison the entire
56:31
Old Testament or Genesis or Genesis one, I'm just saying like how literal does it have
56:35
to be?
56:36
Because when William Lane Craig makes an argument about myth, like mytho history in terms of
56:40
like Adam and Eve and those types of things, people are like ready to kick him out of
56:43
Christian dimension.
56:44
And it's like he's given us something to chew on because again, I don't know that you're,
56:49
how you interpret this section of scripture is salvific or not.
56:52
Oh, I don't know if it's salvific.
56:54
Right.
56:55
I don't know that I would agree with that, but I do think that whenever you start looking
56:59
at again, I think if you look at this and I, I mean, I get what you're saying that essentially
57:07
is this more of a, I was raised in a house where this was all like, Oh, well, no, these
57:12
are more just like lessons.
57:13
These are more like parables.
57:15
And I'm like, well, what's the par, we're, have the parable of Noah, okay?
57:20
Like, you know, parable of the seed.
57:22
So we're parable of the, you know, a prodigal son.
57:27
What exactly is Noah teaching us?
57:29
What exactly is Cain teaching us?
57:31
What exactly is Lamek teaching us?
57:33
I mean, what is exactly is the genealogy teaching is, I mean, there's things that you
57:37
can gather out of it that you can deduce, but, you know, to me, I would say that, you know,
57:44
Bible generally falls into one or two categories.
57:47
It's going to be descriptive or prescriptive.
57:50
And you could say that, okay, well, maybe some of this stuff in Genesis is prescriptive
57:54
and not descriptive, but I don't know.
57:56
There seems to be a lot of, when I start seeing numbers and things like that, when I start
58:03
seeing numbers, I start going like this is descriptive.
58:06
Like what's, why bother putting, why bother putting stats and data in here if it's not
58:11
descriptive?
58:12
To further support, to further support what you're trying to say, Jesus quoted Genesis
58:16
multiple times, repeatedly time, repeatedly.
58:19
So if it was figurative or maybe it did happen, maybe it didn't, well, Jesus referred
58:25
to it.
58:26
Yeah.
58:27
In several places.
58:28
Yeah.
58:29
And I would also, I mean, to that point, what's, what's more likely, what's more likely
58:32
that, that someone died and rose again or that a flood cover the earth.
58:36
I will say, but when you, when you refer to something, it doesn't mean that that thing
58:40
is literal.
58:41
I can refer to the story of Santa Claus as like a fat, you know, guy that comes down
58:46
the chimney and leaves presents for, presents for kids.
58:49
That does not mean that that version of Santa Claus is a literal person, but if I'm referring
58:54
to St. Nicholas, right, who it was a literal person.
58:58
So just because there's a reference to, to something doesn't mean you're referring to
59:01
it literally.
59:02
Now, I think, you know, cause people are like, well, I don't believe in Joan and the whale.
59:05
Well, it's like, well, Jesus referred to it.
59:07
Well, was he referring to it in the sense that it was a story that was well known to the population
59:11
of that time?
59:12
Or as like, no, this is a literal thing that happened.
59:13
This guy was in the belly of a whale for three days.
59:15
Guys, I know there's more to say here.
59:17
So I'm going to have to put a pin in this, because we're going to be getting to more
59:20
stuff in terms of the flood next week.
59:22
But one thing that I think is an important to put a bow on this section of scripture,
59:25
a, you know, Genesis five and six, the Moody commentary pointed this out that the narrative
59:29
of the flood, because again, there's, there's the overarching narratives that were, we're
59:33
all operating in the narrative of the flood shows us that our sinfulness is nature, not
59:38
nurture.
59:39
And we see that all through the description here in Genesis six that this isn't like,
59:42
this is just inherently who we are, to who we are at the core of our being.
59:46
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