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This is Undaunted Life of Man's Podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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Welcome back to the forging table.
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The mission of Undaunted Life is equipping men to push back darkness of content that
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forges spiritual, mental, and physical resilience.
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At the forging table, you'll see a group of regular guys forging spiritual resilience
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by digging into God's Word and we're welcoming all of you to come along on that journey
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with us.
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That is Caleb, the smartest man alive.
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He got the timer to work.
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And Russ and Adam and guys today, we're picking up where we left off in the narrative of Joseph
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by going into Genesis 41.
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So we're going to start in Genesis 41, verse 37.
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And let's just do what we did last time where it's like one guy reads, next guy reads, next
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guy reads, so Caleb, how about you start us out in verse 37 and then just go to the
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next chunk, which, you know, we'll be 46 Russ and then we'll just go from there, got it.
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This proposal pleased Pharaoh and all his servants and Pharaoh said to his servants,
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can we find a man like this in whom is the spirit of God?
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Then Pharaoh said to Joseph, since God has shown you all this, there is none so discerning
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and wise as you are, you shall be over my house and all my people shall shall order themselves
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as you command, only only as regards the throne will I be greater than you.
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And Pharaoh said to Joseph, see, I have set you over all the land of Egypt.
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Then Pharaoh took his signet ring from his hand and put it on Joseph's hand and clothed
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him in garments of fine linen and put a gold chain about his neck.
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And he made him ride in his second chariot.
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And they called out before him, bow the knee, thus he set, he set him over all the land
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of Egypt.
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Moreover, Pharaoh said to Joseph, I am Pharaoh and without your consent, no one shall lift
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up a hand or foot in all the land of Egypt.
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And Pharaoh called Joseph's name, Joseph's name, Zepheneth Pena.
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And he gave him in marriage Esseneth and daughter of Potipharah, priest of on.
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So Joseph went out over the land of Egypt.
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Go ahead, Russ.
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All right.
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Joseph was 30 years old when he entered the service of Pharaoh, King of Egypt.
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And Joseph went out from the presence of Pharaoh and went through all the land of Egypt during
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the seven plentiful years of the earth produced abundantly and he gathered up all the food
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of these seven years, which occurred in the land of Egypt and put the food in the cities.
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He put it in every city, the food from the fields around it.
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And Joseph stored up grain and abundance like the sand of the sea until he ceased to measure
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it for it could not be measured.
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Now before the year of famine came, two sons were born to Joseph, whom Esseneth, the daughter
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of Potipharah, priest of on board to him, Joseph named the first born Manasseh for he
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said, God has made me forget all my troubles and all my father's household.
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He named the second Ephraim for he said, God has made me fruitful in the land of my affliction.
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And I'll just wrap it up, 41, the seven years of plenty that occurred in the land of Egypt
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came to an end and seven years of famine began to come.
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As Joseph had said, there was famine in all the lands, but in all the land of Egypt, there
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was bread when all the land of Egypt was famished and the people cried to Pharaoh for bread.
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Pharaoh said to all the Egyptians, go to Joseph, what he says you to you do.
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So when the famine had spread all over the land, Joseph opened all the storehouses and
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sold to the Egyptians for the famine was severe in the land of Egypt.
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Moreover, all the earth came to Egypt to Joseph to buy again to buy grain because the famine
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was severe over all the earth.
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So obviously just a spectacular turn of events for Joseph, you know, at this point he is
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completely assimilated into Egyptian culture, you know, it takes an Egyptian wife has Egyptian
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kids like he's dressing like an Egyptian for all intents and purposes.
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He's no longer a Hebrew.
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He is an Egyptian, even though he has the Hebrew roots.
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But the whole time I was reading through this, I just assumed at some point I was going to
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think of another historical thing that was like this where like we know now like somebody
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had prepared either for a famine or for a war or something like that.
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And I just, I could not think of one and I just thought one would just absolutely pop
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into my brain.
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So I don't know if that, you know, I didn't, I didn't such a lot of, I didn't tell you
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I was going to ask that.
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But did it, was there anything else that kind of comes to mind because this is such a good
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story of patience, discernment, wisdom, trust, Pharaoh is, you know, coming back, but go
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ahead.
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What about Tom Cruise in the last samurai?
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It has been a minute.
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I think every single episode we've had a little movie thing going on.
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So do tell continue.
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I don't know.
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I mean, he, he was captured, right?
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Yeah.
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During a war, correct?
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Assimilated to Japanese, samurai culture, he becomes like this great warrior for them.
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He, the husband of the, the woman that they live with is killed in battle.
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And then he ends up with her.
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True.
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That's a deep cut, but I think that fits.
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I was thinking more like something that actually happened, but you know what we might as well
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keep the, the theme of IMDB going here.
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It just hit me while you're talking.
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I hadn't even thought about that movie in a while.
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That's a good one.
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That's a banger.
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I wish Jake was here cause he's the, he's the history buff.
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So I don't have anything for you.
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Last time he did trivia, he, you know, he lost.
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So I don't really know.
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You beating.
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Yeah.
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I did.
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Way to go.
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I just smashed him to big enormous pieces, but he is in pieces still.
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He is not recovered, but his next time again, he's going to be on a Genesis and I'm going
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to crush his favorite movie and his favorite movie trilogy, Lord of the Rings.
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I'm going to absolutely Molly Wop them.
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Right?
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It was last time you heard that.
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It's pretty easy to do.
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Molly Wop them.
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It's pretty easy.
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This is a, this is a motif that is definitely used.
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So like it's, it's crazy to see how much we see in film that is taken from the Bible on
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different things.
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But like this, this storyline of the preparation for the hard times to come and the preparation
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for next year's, you know, main event, whatever, it'd be a football game, whatever.
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Every story that you watch, like every Disney story has this prep period where they go through
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the trial and all of a sudden they see the light and then they have to do the prep to,
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to get to that point.
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So this, I just love the idea.
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I mean, like this is one of the best stories ever written.
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For sure.
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And it's not just a story.
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It's an actual event that happened and we're getting to watch it unfolded.
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I, I got one.
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I got one that's probably better than this.
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Noah.
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What about Noah?
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Was it not the same?
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Yeah.
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Pending calamity, build a boat, qualifications were even more dire.
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Yeah.
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Collect the food.
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Bad thing.
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Do you remember?
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Anyway, don't, sorry.
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No, no.
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That's a good question.
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Um, build the boat, get all the food, get all the supplies, get everything together.
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All the animals come, kind of same, same premise.
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Yeah.
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Well, same thing, even same premise with Jesus was he say, you know, I'm, I'm here to prepare
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the kingdom.
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The kingdom of the Lord is at hand.
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Um, and he tells the disciples that the harvest is plenty, but the workers are few, like he's,
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he's saying this is the prep where get ready because we're about to harvest, you know.
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But I still, I still keep going back to Joseph.
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The dude is just a gangster.
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Think about how many times we've talked about it where he had thrown it well and then he
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gets sold into slavery and then he something about him.
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What is the it about Joseph that makes potter potter for immediately make him the ruler
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of his house and then he gets thrown in prison.
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And what does it say?
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But the jailer makes him immediately in charge of all, all of the prisoners in the jail.
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How is that possible?
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And then here's, here's Pharaoh, you know, Pharaoh could say the word and this guy's
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head gets chopped off easily and he's, he just listens to one thing and he's immediately
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now second in command in Egypt with the snap of his fingers and obviously God's hands
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on it for sure.
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Not to diminish that, but there's something about him that's different for sure.
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Do you think that this points a little bit to the culture of the Egyptians at this time
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that, I mean, you could say that it's relatable to our American culture right now that not
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a lot of people want to do the hard work.
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So like you see him, especially whenever he interprets this dream, you would expect that
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Pharaoh's servants and all the people working with him would feel very threatened by this
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guy.
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And whenever he says, let me go find a guy that has these qualities that can do this,
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you would expect for them to jump in and be like, Hey, I'll do it.
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Don't, don't give this guy any more power.
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But it says that they were all favorable to it like they were like, Oh man, he's good
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at this.
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Like they're just wanting somebody to do all the work for him.
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And every place he's been, he's had somebody that was like, Oh, you'll do the work for
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me?
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Okay.
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And I think part of it had to have been he's just undeniable.
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So there are people, you know, music's probably the one thing that comes to mind where people
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are incredibly popular, incredibly famous, incredibly rich, and they're not very talented.
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Right.
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You know, I know a lot of quite a few people in the music industry and they've, they talk
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about plants, like there are certain musical groups and certain people that were chosen
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to be popular.
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So they get chosen, they book these tours and they pour all this marketing money into
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it for any number of reasons, and then there are people that are just undeniable, Chris
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Stapleton, like not a good looking guy, not a handsome fella, had a huge long career as
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a songwriter in Nashville.
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And then, you know, I guess I'll put out a solo album, a solo album, kind of all shucks
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see.
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And then what was that?
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CMTs or CMA's or whatever?
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He goes out there and does that those two songs with Justin Timberlake and they weren't
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supposed to do two songs.
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That basically Justin Timberlake comes into the country music world and he goes, I'm not
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coming and I'm not doing this unless we do two songs.
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We're going to do one of his songs and we're going to do one of my songs.
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And then that put Chris Stapleton on a rocket ship because he's his level of talent and
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songwriting is just flat out undeniable.
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So I feel like Joseph in a way, at some point, you could not like somebody at some point,
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you could wish you got the next opportunity, but it's just like, you're not mad when somebody
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gets a hit three hole over you whenever they're the best hitter on the team.
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You're not that disappointed.
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I wonder how many men got a tear in their eye when Chris Stapleton is saying the star
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spangled banner for the Super Bowl.
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Me.
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I was at your house.
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I was crying at your house watching that.
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I got a little misty myself.
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I was like, Oh man, this, I don't know why, but it's just, it's something about it.
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And it is the number one national anthem of all time ever, because what does everyone
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say is the best?
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Roseanne Barr.
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She's third, I think.
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Whitney Houston.
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Everyone says Whitney Houston.
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She didn't sing it live.
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That was a recording.
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Wow.
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So previously, so I'm sorry.
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That doesn't count.
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Right.
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It's a beautiful rendition.
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Her voice is one of literally one of the most spectacular voices of all time, but Chris
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Stapleton delivered the best one of all time.
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That's what you got.
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Have you all been listening to Oliver Anthony?
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Have you heard some of this stuff?
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Yeah.
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This is, this is the guy who sang the rich man, yeah, he's great.
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He's got some new stuff out too that's on that level like you'd be, he's not, you don't
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look at him be like, he's a star six foot five ginger, like kind of a pub beard, like no,
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it's not, he's good.
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When you get deep into stuff though, at least for me, it's a little foxy kind of and a little
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twangy, but it is good.
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Like I like him a lot.
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One thing is because I had two vocal cord surgeries after the second surgery was successful.
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I went and did vocal coaching with a vocal coach down at OU.
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And the cool thing about this guy is he was a, I literally just forgot what they do speech
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therapist or speech language pathologist, sorry, speech language pathologist.
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That's what Tiffany does.
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That's what my wife does.
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So she would be sad that you forgot what he did.
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Sorry.
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That's what she used to do.
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She doesn't do anything.
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Don't tell Tiff.
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Sorry, Tiffy.
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You know, whatever that is.
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But he was also a performing opera singer.
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Okay.
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And so what I didn't know is when opera singers perform like around the world, whatever Italy
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is kind of a big one, they don't mic them a lot of times.
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So they've got an orchestra behind them and they don't mic the opera singer because the
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opera singer needs to be resonant.
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So I use the word projection.
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He's like, that's not what it is.
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You need your voice to fill the room.
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You need it to boom off the wall.
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So Graspmeyer has a very resonant voice.
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He doesn't have to speak loudly.
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But when he does, it's just booming.
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If you watched "Grid to Showman," you would see one of the ladies in there.
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I just.
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Oh, the opera.
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Okay.
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You know what?
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Here's the deal.
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Because I watched "Brokeback Mountain" with another single guy in his dorm room and we,
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you know, if neither one of us liked it, we didn't do that.
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We didn't even get close.
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I think if Kelsey might like it, then I'll sit down with her and watch it.
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The boys, the boys will love it.
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It can't be worse than the Lord of the Rings.
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So like it can't be any worse than that.
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And since you liked "Brokeback Mountain" so much, I didn't say that.
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There is a woman in my mouth.
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There is a woman in this one of the things I'm out to.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm not going to let this stop.
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I need you to go back to this conversation.
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This woman, she has a beard in this.
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So there's a train show.
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Well, no.
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She's a beard lady.
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She's a beard lady.
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She's actually a beautiful beard lady.
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Yeah.
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Not really.
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A woman with a beard.
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Don't you want to believe?
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Don't try to put her in a box.
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I would be like, no, we got to shave that thing.
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What are you talking about?
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Kel.
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Is that what you pronounce her last name?
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Good.
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That's good though.
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It's not good.
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I thought it was good.
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I thought it was good.
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I thought it was good, man.
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There's a tea.
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Why didn't you pronounce the tea?
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It's silent.
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Oh.
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She's a French teaser silent.
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Oh, okay.
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It's not how you pronounce it here in Oklahoma.
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No, that's what I'm going to say.
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It's Oklahoma.
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There's a tea on there.
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You say tea.
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You're like, what?
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What?
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Which did you pick?
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The first one or the second one?
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Right.
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You know, there's, you know, your mom and him.
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It's like, oh man, I haven't been down there in a while.
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How's your mom and him?
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Right?
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So I just got back from Boston.
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I was in Cape Cod for a wedding and I had to go to the hospital and in the hospital,
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I'm just talking like I normally do.
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And all of a sudden, the nurse says military or south.
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I was like, not very south.
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What the heck do you mean?
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And I realized it's because I had said ma'am.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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She kept asking me questions ma'am.
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And it caught me off guard and I was like, oh, and so she immediately knew just because
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I was just saying ma'am, you're either in the military or you're from the south.
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Way to go, Adam.
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Way back just like you.
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Hold me down.
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Let's go.
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I will say, I like Boston a million times more than I like New York.
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Both are ran by super lefty blue weirdos, like not great place, but Boston feels like
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a small town.
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You know, and every time I went, I just felt like I was like with family, you know.
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I like Boston a lot.
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I like Cape Cod.
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It was the first time I've ever been there.
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There are two people in society that get a pass to say anything.
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One should be comedians and number two are nurses.
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Dude, nurses can say freaking anything and it's okay.
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I'm in the waiting room and I hear the nurse from across the way goes, oh, you talking
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about that big ginger, that big ginger that's just over there.
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I was like, just real bold about it.
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Real bold.
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Why has he got to be a ginger?
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Why has he got to be a ginger?
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Like problems.
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All these poor redheads out here running around like may might not like being called
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ginger, but those nurses, they just rip.
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They just go.
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That's fine.
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The first thing is when that happens with New Yorkers, a lot of times it can be pretty
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mean spirit because I lived in New York for when I was there working for Major League
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Baseball in 2012.
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And like the pace didn't bother me because I'm a fast paced dude, but it's just that
15:58
people don't have time to care.
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Like Kelsey was walking across across walk one day and she doesn't do the slow walk across
16:03
crosswalk thing and a taxi driver bumps her like like she wasn't walking fast enough,
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right?
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And I wasn't there.
16:10
And so I couldn't do the Mexican hat dance on the dude's face.
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And so it was like he just, yeah, bumped her like, come on, let's go.
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I got places to be and like, again, Boston's got got its issues, but like, I don't know,
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the accent's cooler.
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It's more, it feels more Irish there, right?
16:21
It's less five points and, you know, well, now if you go to New York now, it's like you're
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in a different country.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's like Somalia.
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It's just anywhere.
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I mean, everybody.
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When's the last time you were there?
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Last summer.
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Okay.
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Yeah, it's been forever for me.
16:36
I like Boston and I like DC.
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I've never been to big fan of New York, but I like, I like DC too.
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I'm just got back from DC and I loved it.
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Yeah.
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I like all the museums and go on to the, do you go to the Bible museum?
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I've never, I haven't been since I've been there museum of the Bible, I should say.
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That's where, that's where we went to it.
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We got to do a tour with Terry Fakes who is on the podcast and yeah, had a really good,
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really good time.
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Actually, Mr. Green showed up and gave us a little talk.
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Oh, cool.
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Is that?
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Yeah.
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So that was, that was really neat.
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Wait.
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Did he give you a tour of the museum of the Bible?
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Yes.
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He came and gave us a little talk, kind of talked to us about some of the stuff going
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on and vision and just, it was just really cool.
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Terry works, you know, with him.
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And so he came and gave that talk and then he stuck around and was able to give us a
17:23
tour of some of the things and actually talked about the translation room where his brother's
17:28
doing a lot of stuff and then really, really, really wasn't it?
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So did you see stuff that wasn't like the rest of the public got to see?
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Did you get some private tour stuff?
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Did they show you the arc?
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No.
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So.
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They didn't show you the tin.
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Yeah.
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Are they there?
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There wasn't anything like that.
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They did.
17:43
So, so he walked us through some stuff, he came to dinner and then that next day I actually
17:47
have a really old American flag with 14 stars on it and we had contacted the Smithsonian
17:52
before we went.
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So we did get to go the same person that curates the Star Spingle Banner actually came and
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got us into the Smithsonian, took us back to the back to like where they store everything
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and they examined this flag right next to pieces of the Star Spingle Banner and so we
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got to see a lot of really cool stuff back in those store rooms.
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Did you take pictures?
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Yeah.
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Are you loud?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That was the coolest inside deal but it wasn't at the Museum of the Bible.
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Well yeah, we were working on some stuff to maybe do some cool stuff with the Museum of
18:26
the Bible so just a little teaser for you guys.
18:28
But whenever I was done working for Major League Baseball, the main curator I guess for
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Cooperstown had come through our studio in New York City at some point during the season
18:37
and he was like the nicest guy and he's like, "Hey, if y'all ever, you know, make it up
18:41
to upstate New York, I would love to give you a private tour and that kind of thing."
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And I was like, "Okay, bet."
18:46
And so there was that big hurricane that hit New Jersey and New York and so like we were
18:51
in Detroit for the World Series, the Giants had swept the World Series.
18:55
There were no flights going back into New York because like the lower 40 streets of Manhattan
18:59
were completely without power.
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Mike Piazza.
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Mike Piazza.
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Was on that team, right?
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No.
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You said them.
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You said them.
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This would have been in 2012.
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The Giants?
19:09
The Mets?
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Oh, did I say the Mets?
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No.
19:12
I said the Mets.
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Yeah, so the Giants swept the Tigers in Detroit.
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Continue.
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That was for the year.
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Miguel Cabrera won the Triple Crown, the last guy to make the Triple Crown before like what
19:19
was it?
19:20
Ted Williams was before that or something like that.
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Anyway, so this guys, if you can get up there, great.
19:24
And so here we are, we're sitting in New York and we're in one of those apartments and
19:27
the apartments don't have central heat and air.
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It has to be below like 36 degrees before they turn it on for the building and it got
19:33
to like 37.
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And so we're literally sitting there with like multiple pairs of clothes on.
19:37
We're carrying one candle around, like trying to whatever and we're like, this is stupid.
19:40
And so we found out that you could take bus trips to all these different cities that
19:44
were pretty close.
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So we took a day trip to Philadelphia because when we got on the bus, there was heat and
19:49
there was a charger, right?
19:51
And like we could charge our phones and like, you know, we didn't have to wake anybody up
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at two o'clock in the morning or anything like that.
19:55
And so, and then we did a day trip to Boston, went to Boston and then because this probably
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makes like a whole class of society more relatable to you to where you're like, writing on a
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bus online isn't all that bad.
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Yeah.
20:07
I get it now.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
20:10
But then we ran a car and we're going to drive to Cooperstown, upstate New York.
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And at this point, I hadn't driven a car in nine months.
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Okay.
20:17
And when you don't drive a car for nine months, it was, yeah, and we're starting in New York
20:21
fricking city and then we're driving or we may have like got a bus to take us to Albany
20:25
or something and then we got a car there, something like that.
20:28
And so we drive out to Cooperstown and the guy knew we were coming and all that was
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just me and my wife.
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And there's nobody there, like nobody.
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And there's, you know, there's the different sets and different things like that.
20:38
And he's like, Hey, come to the basement.
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And I mean, I don't know what that means.
20:41
But it's, it's all the, you know, where they kind of spin the wheel and it moves the shelves
20:45
and all that.
20:46
And he proceeded to show me like, because he knew I was a big Cardinals fan.
20:50
And so I got to hold Stan Muswell's game or in Jersey, I got the whole, and I'm wearing
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like Tiffany gloves.
20:54
I got the whole Stan Muswell's bat greatest St. Louis Cardinal of all time, the most criminally
20:58
underrated baseball player of all time.
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What would you do to me if I told you, I don't know who that is.
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What?
21:03
Stan Muswell.
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Never heard that name of my life.
21:05
No.
21:06
I don't know who that is.
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Which goes to my point, the most criminally underrated baseball player of all time because
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he played in St. Louis, not Boston or New York.
21:13
So whoever this guy is versus Albert Pujols, who's better?
21:17
Well, Albert Pujols left.
21:19
So Stan Muswell played his entire career with the Cardinals.
21:21
So Albert Pujols can, you know, suck a bag of, bag of, you know what, as far as I go.
21:26
But he was there at his, at his prime.
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Like he was.
21:29
The first 11 years, Albert Pujols's career is the best 11 year stretch of any person
21:33
in the history of baseball.
21:35
Don't at me.
21:36
Yeah.
21:37
Yeah.
21:38
It's just that his first 11 years were preposterous.
21:39
But anyway, so I get the whole same usual stuff.
21:41
I get to hold Babe Ruth's bat and if you've heard about Babe Ruth's bat, it was basically
21:46
a log.
21:47
Yeah.
21:48
Right.
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Cause I think in high school, we were dropped three when I was in high school.
21:50
Right.
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So it's 30 ounce bad.
21:52
Yeah.
21:53
It's one of the 3330, which was huge.
21:54
Right.
21:55
You know, anything about bats, that's an enormous bat.
21:58
But then I know we're kind of going into this, but I'm a baseball nerd.
22:01
Right.
22:02
And so he could kind of tell by some of the things I was saying, some of the questions
22:03
I was asking that kind of knew what I was talking about.
22:06
He goes, Hey, I'm going to hand you a bat and I just want you to tell me what you, what
22:09
you noticed about it.
22:10
And he hands me each rose bat, you know, from one of his biggest hits or something like
22:15
that.
22:16
And so, you know, like every baseball player does, you get the bat and the first thing you
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do, you just kind of start moving it around in your hands a lot.
22:21
And I'm just like, what? And he just starts to smile because he's like, I think he's about
22:25
to get it.
22:26
I'm like, it feels like all the weight for the barrels at the very end of the bat at
22:31
the very end.
22:32
He's like precisely.
22:33
He's like, he's your style was he wasn't doing all this launch angle stuff that we see
22:38
in modern major league baseball dudes using torpedo bats and moving the, you know, the
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barrel where most of the meat of the bat is closer to the hands.
22:45
It was all at the end because he was a slap hitter.
22:48
His body a lot of times was already out of the box as he's making contact, almost like
22:52
a softball player, because he would slap the ball with pace to the left side of the infield.
22:56
And he was so fast, he would always out run into the right field, or he just wanted to
22:59
basically put a little bit of a slap on it to pop it over the second baseman's head or
23:03
the shortstop's head.
23:04
Like that was just his style.
23:05
He would just spray the ball everywhere so that you couldn't move your defensive alignment
23:08
to where he was going to go.
23:09
He wasn't a dead pull hitter.
23:11
He wasn't, you know, trying to hit it to left center all the time.
23:13
And it was just kind of one of those things.
23:15
Who knows that about each rose bat, right?
23:17
The company that made it, each row, like the bat boy, or whatever, in any other player
23:23
that tried to swing that bat in me and so it's just like, guys, find museum curators
23:29
and befriend them, because like you're going to get to see and experience like some awesome
23:33
stuff that you would be able to otherwise not to continue going on on baseball for too
23:36
long.
23:37
But I was recently watching PTI and they were talking about Aaron judge and they were talking
23:40
about his statistics and I don't know all the statistics and the numbers, but they were
23:44
giving out some adjusted OPI plus whatever the heck that is.
23:48
OPS plus.
23:49
Yeah.
23:50
OPS plus.
23:51
And apparently Aaron judges OPS plus is astronomically higher than anybody else's.
23:56
So by the time you guys hear this will be, you know, in the dog days of summer, but his
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April of this season, I think he ended April with an average around 450.
24:06
So OPS is what is the plus part?
24:08
I don't understand the plus part.
24:09
There's a bunch of that stuff that I don't quite understand.
24:11
Did I pronounce it right, OPS, what OPS is, it's a combination of your slugging percentage
24:17
and your own base percentage, okay.
24:19
So if you get on base, if you get hits or get walks, you're going to have a higher on
24:23
base percentage and slugging is one times the number of singles plus two times the number
24:27
of doubles plus three times the number of triples plus four times the number of home
24:31
runs all divided by your number of at bats.
24:33
So the higher slugging percentage you have means you hit a lot of doubles and typically
24:37
homers.
24:38
Not a whole lot of guys hitting homers are also hitting triples.
24:40
And so where as you have a lower slugging percentage, if you're a singles hitter, right?
24:44
So each row never had a huge OPS or slugging percentage because he was basically getting
24:48
singles and stealing second base.
24:50
So effectively he was hitting doubles because he kept swiping bags.
24:53
But yeah, so what what Aaron Judge did in April was one of the most preposterous months
24:58
in the history of baseball, like unexplainable.
25:01
I think they said his lifetime OPS plus is like 470 and they said the next closest in
25:05
the history of baseball was like 417 or 410.
25:10
And this guy and then we'll wrap up our baseball diatribe.
25:13
So because Aaron Judge is one of those Yankees you just can't hate, right?
25:16
Because they're the most hateable franchise, maybe in all of sports.
25:19
But you just can't hate Aaron Judge because he's just a nice guy and whatever.
25:21
He almost didn't make it to the majors.
25:23
Like at one point he was hitting like, so the Mendoza line is hitting 200.
25:28
He was below he was hitting like 172 or something in the minors.
25:32
And here's this enormous guy.
25:33
Good looking guy.
25:34
Great prospect.
25:36
You know, they had high hopes for him and they're like, oh, this guy is just going to
25:38
wash out and he breaks the home run record, right?
25:42
So you know, you can miss me with bonds and Maguire and Sosa.
25:45
He now owns the the home run record.
25:47
They're saying it's the American League home run record.
25:48
No, he hit 62 home runs in a in one season.
25:51
He is the guy and he's playing in the most specialized time in baseball history, right,
25:55
where it's damn usual back in the day.
25:56
He's seeing the same pitcher four or five times because that pitcher is throwing 200, you
26:00
know, 200 pitches in a game.
26:02
Now you got a guy that will see you twice and then every guy coming out of the bullpen
26:05
throws 98 with a hook.
26:07
So Aaron judge sounds like he's got some resilience to him, right?
26:09
He sure does.
26:10
And he reminds me of Joseph.
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Oh my gosh.
26:13
You know, I'm the Bible.
26:14
Won't you look right here?
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Right.
26:16
We got Joseph.
26:17
We got the story of Joseph right here.
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How about that?
26:19
Everyone's trying to do their best grass.
26:20
I love it.
26:21
So we're going to we're going to approach chapter 42 of Genesis in chunks here.
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So we're just going to do the first eight verses.
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So Adam, since you did such a velvety transition, you get the first eight verses.
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Now Jacob saw that there was grain in Egypt and Jacob said to his sons, why are you staring
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at another?
26:36
He said, behold.
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I've heard that there is grain in Egypt.
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Go down there and buy some for us from that place so that we may live and not die.
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Then 10 brothers of Joseph went down to buy grain from Egypt, but Jacob did not send Joseph's
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brother Benjamin with his brothers for he said, I am afraid that harm may be before him.
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So the sons of Israel came to buy grain among those who were coming for the famine was in
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the land of Canaan also.
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Now Joseph was the ruler over the land.
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He was the one who sold to all the people of the land.
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And Joseph, Joseph's brothers came and bowed down to him with their faces to the ground.
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When Joseph saw his brothers, he recognized them, but he disguised himself to them and
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spoke to them harshly.
27:13
Let's go ahead and we're going to pause.
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We're stopping at verse eight here because we really need to look at what happened here.
27:20
So Benjamin, we see is Jacob's new favorite, right?
27:23
Because Benjamin thinks that Joseph has died.
27:25
MacArthur pointed out some incredible stuff here with verse six.
27:29
This is Joseph's dream coming true, right guys?
27:32
He heard us get into it in the forging table with Genesis 37.
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He had this dream that his brothers would bow down to him.
27:37
And that's what caused this, you know, turn of events and the code of many colors.
27:43
But 15 years had passed at this point, like after he would been put into slavery, he's
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fully in Egyptian now, you know, Joseph acting like he didn't know them.
27:53
I mean, they thought Joseph was dead and think about it.
27:56
Your little brother, I didn't have a little brother, but like, you know, you're little
27:58
a sibling, like if you didn't see them for 15 years and they were, you know, I don't
28:04
know a teenager, like they may have some features, but again, Egyptians dressed and, you know,
28:10
did their faces in particular ways.
28:12
It's just such an unbelievable set of circumstances here.
28:18
And you know, for Joseph to recognize his brothers, but they didn't recognize him like
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the drama of this, like we talk about movies and all this kind of stuff, like what is more
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dramatic than this?
28:27
And not to mention that Jacob is still holding on to this favoritism, right?
28:30
You know, he had favoritism for Joseph and now he's got favoritism for Benjamin all because
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Joseph and Benjamin are the only two from Rachel.
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Right.
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Right.
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Pretty interesting.
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Benjamin's the last one.
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And so he's trying to hold on to that.
28:42
So this said that so Joseph is 30 at this time, right?
28:45
Yes.
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So he's about 15.
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Yeah, it would have been rough.
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Take 15 years old.
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I guess he'd be 37 now, right?
28:51
Because it said he was 30 when he interpreted the dream.
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It's at least seven years later, because they've had the seven years of good.
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So he'd be.
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He'd have to be 37.
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Oh, I see what you were saying.
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But there's a, um, no, I think there's a lot of, this is like in the first year of the
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famine.
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But so we.
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Oh, seven years.
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Okay.
29:08
Oh, yeah.
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Cause they sped up the story and then they come back.
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Okay.
29:11
They come back.
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Yeah.
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So 37 ish.
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Yeah.
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So 30 plus seven is 37 equals 37.
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Wait, wait, can you prove it?
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All right.
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Right.
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Right.
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So there you go.
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No, you didn't get in.
29:25
Mark this one out.
29:26
I'll carry the one.
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Okay.
29:28
And then the one, have you seen how they teach kids to do, have you seen how they teach
29:32
kids to do?
29:33
I don't get it.
29:34
Yeah, I can.
29:35
What do they do?
29:36
Don't try.
29:37
Show me.
29:38
You will trust me.
29:39
It's coming, my friend.
29:40
You've got about two years and the teachers literally tell the kids, don't ask your parents
29:44
for help because they're not going to get it.
29:46
Yeah.
29:47
And it's true.
29:48
I don't get it.
29:49
It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
29:50
I don't know.
29:51
I don't know how to do it, Kyle.
29:52
I know that I don't know how to do it because now they do it in front of me, and I'm all
29:56
in there.
29:57
There's in it.
29:58
In the way.
29:59
Here's the truth.
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I can get the answer in two steps and the dumb way they're teaching kids dumb, ridiculous,
30:05
horrible way now.
30:06
It takes 12 steps to get to the same answer.
30:08
Who's the, um, I can think of the comedian.
30:10
Idiot came up with this idea.
30:12
This is a super popular comedian now from Tennessee.
30:15
But Joe's about this?
30:16
Are you on?
30:17
I like Bergotzi.
30:18
No, he's losing answer.
30:19
Bergotzi talks about the goal of new math is just to see how much paper you can use.
30:22
I guess so.
30:23
It's the whole thing.
30:24
Oh man.
30:25
You just keep giving commercials for homeschool.
30:26
Okay.
30:27
So left and right.
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Yeah.
30:29
For sure.
30:30
So 37.
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Okay.
30:32
So, um, what's I going to say though?
30:33
Oh, so the one part I thought was interesting in this, I can't remember where I read this,
30:36
but he says, he says to his sons, he's talking about Egypt, right?
30:39
And he says, why do you look at one another?
30:41
You can just imagine them like Egypt, like every time they hear that, and they're like,
30:46
oh yeah, we sold our brother to Egyptian traders, you know what I mean?
30:50
That is like, that's why we're looking at each other because he wants to go there.
30:53
You know what I mean?
30:55
But yeah.
30:56
And then you mentioned that they're full brothers, um, and that's, I mean, that's why
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he was his, his new favorite.
31:03
Yeah.
31:04
The idea, I mean, we, we really do see this play out to where these guys are struggling
31:09
so much.
31:10
What, what it was Ruben who's the oldest, right?
31:12
Yeah.
31:13
And so he's the first one that he's also the one that slept with, um, his dad's wife
31:19
at one point.
31:20
So he's in the dog house and we saw him try to get out of the dog house whenever they're
31:25
throwing Joseph into the pit and he was like, let's not do this.
31:28
But you've seen that he's lost all of his influence.
31:31
Like there's no leadership in the, in the young men, the generation that he's in, in
31:37
this family.
31:38
They're all looking at each other, not knowing what to do.
31:40
Dad is still having to tell them where to go to do the work and how to, how to solve
31:45
problems.
31:46
You got to think that just has to do with the idea that again, when they were, when they
31:49
were young, they were shown where they rated in their father's eyes.
31:54
You know, some of them were sent up front whenever he was going to confront Esau and
31:58
some of them were held back to the back and you've got, uh, Joseph and Benjamin that,
32:03
you know, held back and, and now you have this whole generation of these guys that just
32:09
don't work well together.
32:11
But I think chronologically, this has to also be after the Genesis chapter 38 with Judah
32:18
and Tamar.
32:19
So, you know, we're talking about the brothers, we're talking about Reuben is still not in
32:24
a good place.
32:25
Well, what did Judah do?
32:26
Jude went and lived in Canaan, married a Canaanite woman, a woman that all of these horrible
32:31
things against God and then they're still wondering around and having problems.
32:35
So I was wondering that.
32:36
So is that story all before this story or is that I would say it has to be and we'll
32:43
get to that.
32:44
I'll get to the reason why in a minute, because we're going to get to a part to where eventually
32:48
Judah starts coming around and Judah starts changing and you see a change in Judah him
32:53
first.
32:54
And that's why I think it wouldn't make sense in my mind to see that change and see kind
32:58
of a spark in him and then all of a sudden he goes back and goes to live in Canaan and
33:03
marries a Canaanite woman, so I feel like it is chronological.
33:07
This Judah and Tamar story happen first, then the famine happens and then you start seeing
33:12
Judah figuring things out.
33:14
Okay.
33:15
So let's go ahead and pick back up.
33:16
Caleb, read 9 through 17.
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And Joseph remembered the dreams that he had dreamed of them and he said to them, "You are
33:23
spies.
33:24
You have come to see the nakedness of the land.
33:26
They said to him, 'No, my Lord, your servants have come to buy food.
33:30
We are all sons of one man.
33:31
We are honest men.
33:33
Your servants have never been spies.'"
33:34
2, 11.
33:35
Oh, gosh.
33:36
He said to them, "No, it is the nakedness of the land that you have come to see."
33:42
And they said, "We, your servants, are twelve brothers, the sons of one man in the land
33:46
of Canaan.
33:47
And behold, the youngest is this day with our father and one is no more.
33:51
But Joseph said to them, 'It is as I said to you, you are spies.
33:55
By this you shall be tested.
33:57
By the life of Pharaoh you shall not go from this place unless your youngest brother comes
34:01
here.
34:02
And one of you, and let him bring your brother while you remain confined, that your words
34:06
may be tested, whether there is truth in you or else by the life of Pharaoh, surely you
34:11
are spies.
34:12
And he put them all together and custody for three days."
34:15
3, okay.
34:18
So the thing that's interesting here is swearing by the life of Pharaoh is a huge deal.
34:24
Like this is apparently, like this is an oath swearing to someone that fancy's himself
34:28
a deity.
34:29
Like this is a really big deal.
34:30
Some people read this as him, you know, worshipping Pharaoh by saying something in his name and
34:35
not in God's name, but that's not really a good read.
34:38
But 7 through 11, if we go back up a little bit, Joseph, you know, the Reformation study
34:42
by the point of the sound, I thought it was great, Joseph is trying to figure out if his
34:44
brothers are sincere, right?
34:47
And so, you know, a quick pardon, oh my gosh, it's my brother, as I forgive you, blah, blah,
34:51
here's all that, wouldn't lead to true repentance, right?
34:55
And so he's testing them, he's making life more difficult on them, but not with, not
35:00
with any intent to make life hard on them, right?
35:03
He's not trying to get even, he's not trying to get back at him.
35:05
He's just trying to test them to be like, hey, are they, are they legitimately changed?
35:09
I do struggle with that a little bit on the, like, is he getting revenge?
35:13
Is he wanting?
35:14
Because that's what I would want after my brothers had done on that to me, like, I'm
35:17
going to make your life miserable for a while.
35:19
Like this is going to suck for you.
35:21
And I don't really think that's what his intention was.
35:24
That's what I would want to do.
35:25
But I do think his intention was to test them and see how they changed their ways.
35:29
Are they different?
35:30
Well, he really wanted to see his younger brother.
35:31
I mean, you see that whenever he shows up later on, he's moved by it in such a way, because
35:36
you got to think again, like, that is the only one that was his real brother, and that
35:41
was the only one that didn't throw him into slavery.
35:43
That's the one relationship that he had that he has always dreamed of having that relationship
35:49
back.
35:50
And did they do the same thing to Benjamin that they did to him?
35:52
Yeah.
35:53
That had to have been on his mind.
35:54
Yeah.
35:55
Like I see all the brothers.
35:56
Where's he?
35:57
It's just kind of like, that's a further test to be like, what happened?
36:00
Yeah.
36:01
And he's probably playing it out as well as I wonder why they would be here without Benjamin.
36:05
And he's playing out.
36:07
I bet dad is really protective of Benjamin.
36:10
No, tell him what they taught because he didn't know what they said to the father about him.
36:14
You know, he didn't, he didn't understand the story that said, we took your cloak, we
36:18
put blood on it, and we brought it back to dad until then you died, which was crazy for
36:23
the fact that, you know, the generational sin of the father killing a lamb to cover his
36:30
skin to make himself seem like his brother and then the same thing with them.
36:35
And so I don't know, I think he's really investigating what's going on here.
36:40
I think it makes sense.
36:41
Why is my brother not here?
36:42
And, you know, it's the one, the one brother of his, he shares with his father and his
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mother and the one that probably shares the most lightness to him.
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And so I, Kyle, I think your point makes a lot of sense to me, like, did they do to
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my brother what they did to me when he's a very wisdom-filled guy, you know?
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They were probably pretty close in age.
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I mean, like there's a lot of just commentaries that I read just saying that they were saying
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that Benjamin's maybe in his mid to late twenties at this point.
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So maybe even 30, you know, so they're pretty close in age compared to the rest of them.
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But I think it's, I mean, they're talking about in verse 11, we're honest men, you know,
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and then the very next they're saying, and one of our brothers is no more.
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And, you know, and the other is a lot of coordination right here with kind of what they're all
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processing.
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And again, Russia, right, like he doesn't know what they've told their father, but he
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knows what he's experienced up to this point.
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And he also knows they don't recognize me.
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We see throughout the rest of the next few chapters, they don't even have a hint, right?
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So just a little bit of fast forwarding whenever they go to the table for a meal, he puts them
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in order in birth order, and they're amazed at how he could just do that.
37:46
And it's like, I mean, they had no clue who it was.
37:49
Well, have you ever, have you ever seen somebody that you know pretty well, but you saw them
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in a, in a setting that you did not expect to see them or, and you're, you're kind of
37:57
even if, even if you know them pretty well, you kind of double take and think, is that,
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is that, no, because you just, when your mind doesn't expect that somebody would be in
38:05
that position or at that scene, it's really hard for your mind to connect to it is, especially
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if there's been any change.
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So when your teachers, like at Walmart, when you're a kid, I thought you were going like
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a varsity blues, not varsity blues.
38:24
I was thinking like the first time I saw like my ninth grade English teacher, Mr. Adair,
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you know, in like Walmart, he's wearing like shorts and loafers, and you know, that wasn't
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a, so that's kind of where my head was.
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Yeah.
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What are you thinking about that?
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Okay.
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Just a reference.
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What is going on here?
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Yeah.
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What is going on?
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I feel like y'all are trying to torpedo this every single one of these.
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No.
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We're going to go on.
38:46
We're going to give you a chance to redeem yourself.
38:47
You can keep talking about now we're going to have a Bible come out of your mouth and
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not that filth.
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All right.
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So let's do verse 18 through 25.
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All right.
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On the third day, Joseph said to them, said to them, said to them, said to them, do this
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and you will live for I fear God.
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If you are honest men, let one of your brothers remain confined where you are in custody and
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let the rest go and carry grain for the famine to your household and bring your youngest
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brother to me.
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So your words will be verified and you shall not die and they did so.
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Then they said, then they said to one another in truth, we were guilty concerning our brother
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and that we saw the distress of his soul when he begged us and we did not listen.
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That is why this distress has kind of come upon us.
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To what?
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Through 25 and Reuben answered them, did I not tell you not to sin against the boy but you
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did not listen?
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And now there comes a reckoning for his blood.
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They did not know that Joseph understood them for there was an interpreter between them.
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Then he turned away from them and wept and he returned to them and spoke to them and
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he took Simeon from them and bound him before their eyes and Joseph gave orders to fill
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their bags with grain and to replace every man's money in his sack and to give them provisions
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for the journey.
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This was done for them.
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I mean, make this a movie.
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I mean, then he turned away from them and wept.
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So the note that I put after reading that is this had to be soul level emotional exhaustion.
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Because he sees some contrition.
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He sees Reuben like, we shouldn't have done that.
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And this is 15 years later and it's still there because again, when people freak out
40:29
and do something like that, where I mean, they, you know, you see these stories, these murder
40:33
mysteries and all that, like somebody kills someone, they weren't planning to kill them
40:36
and then they just kind of freak out, bury them in a shallow grave and they leave a myriad
40:40
of, of evidence behind behind issues, one of those situations, like they didn't really
40:45
think this through and they're never going to live that down.
40:47
They might not ever see the inside of a jail cell, like my buddy J Warner Wallace, like
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he's a cold case detective.
40:52
And I mean, they were, they were getting people 30, 40 years after a murder.
40:56
They're sitting at home watching a Laker game and they don't know that the knock on
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the door is the last knock they're ever going to hear, you know, in a residence of their
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own because they've been found, but you, that's something you don't just get through and get
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passed.
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Were you, were you talking about that their day that you were saying something about it
41:11
was either you or I had heard somewhere else that people, when they get in that situation,
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that a lot of times they're relieved that they got caught.
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Yes.
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Like they just have this sense of like, ah, I'm glad that this is over.
41:23
I can't remember the context.
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It wasn't a J Warner wall saying, but there are people that you live your entire life
41:28
looking over your shoulder is today, the day is the day, the day, and then they get caught
41:32
and they're like, oh, thank, thank goodness, like they don't want to go to prison.
41:35
They don't want to sell their bodies to survive or for cigarettes or whatever.
41:39
But like the, the torture of constantly having to be on, constantly moving around, changing
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your appearance, you know, not letting it slip your old name, like any number of things.
41:49
Like, yeah, it's just absolutely emotionally exhausting.
41:52
And I mean, Joseph here has to just been like, I mean, it says he turned away and this means
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he left the room.
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He didn't turn away and then come back and he was good.
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Yeah, right.
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Like he had to go reset.
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He had to go resettle himself.
42:03
I didn't even think about it until it came up right here, but when they talk about in
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verse 23 that there was an interpreter, that they're not even speaking the same language.
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Yeah.
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Why did they need an interpreter?
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Joseph should have understood the language that they were speaking.
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No, Joseph understood, but he was not speaking Hebrew.
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He was right.
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They were.
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Right.
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But he's congoing.
42:22
I mean, honestly, that's what he was playing the part of an Egyptian, right?
42:27
And he didn't want them to know that he understood Hebrew because, I mean, again, make this
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a movie.
42:32
It worked out perfectly.
42:34
He played the dummy so that he could hear what they were saying in their own language
42:39
that wasn't being interpreted and then he could make a judge.
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Right.
42:42
I see it.
42:43
I know where you're coming from.
42:44
I see it now.
42:45
Because it was like, why does he need an interpreter there?
42:46
He knows what they're saying.
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He didn't need it.
42:48
But yeah, it's like, they did not know that Joseph understood them because, oh, they, you
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know, they're having to talk to the interpreter who's telling this, you know, random fancy
42:53
looking, you know, Egyptian guy with nice eyebrows, something they thought they were having
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that conversation.
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Among themselves.
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Yeah.
43:01
And the interpreter knew that Joseph knew Hebrew, probably not again, he's fully assimilated
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to Egyptian culture at this point.
43:08
But that to me too, is like, it just speaks like how close, like we were just talking
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about the guilt and the shame was to the surface, you know, it's like the wanting to be caught
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thing.
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Yeah.
43:18
And that's why.
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But because you can't think of anything else.
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We sort of glazed over in verse 20, and there is a part where Joseph says, and you will
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not die.
43:25
So just to be clear about how dangerous this was and how angry he was and how mad he was
43:30
with these guys, it's, there's probably significant tension in the room because he can tell and
43:35
he can read the room that they're worried that he's going to kill them.
43:38
Like, sure enough, you know, you do this and you won't die, but that also sort of indicates
43:43
like if you don't, I might kill you.
43:46
He definitely overdoes the pressure.
43:48
I mean, from his first conversation with them, he talks to them, what does it say, not abruptly,
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but roughly.
43:56
We spoke to them roughly.
43:57
And that's the first time we see in all of scripture that he acts that way.
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Yeah.
44:01
So he is, and it sounds like he is intentionally trying to put the pressure on like an interrogation.
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Be like, I'm going to, I'm going to throw this out there.
44:08
I'm going to be really heavy handed.
44:10
And we're going to see where they turn whenever they start squealing.
44:13
We're going to see what they go to verse seven, spoke roughly to them.
44:16
And that's the beginning of, of us as the narrator, giving us an idea of like, okay,
44:21
Joseph is trying to test his brothers and figure out, you know, kind of where they're
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at.
44:25
They have to go ahead.
44:26
They feel pretty relieved also because it went from, they were, you know, I guess there's,
44:32
there's 10 of them there, right?
44:33
Yeah.
44:34
So nine of them were going to be in prison.
44:36
And one of them was going to go get the brother and then he switched it on them.
44:40
You know, so it's like, okay, we need to, we need to take advantage of this.
44:43
I don't remember.
44:44
And in his story, when he got put in the well or the cistern, what was Simeon's role in
44:51
that?
44:52
Do you all remember?
44:53
So Rubens, I remember Rubens and I remember Judah, but I don't remember Simeons, but I
45:01
just saw what I meant to look that up like what his role was because he's the one that
45:05
he gives name.
45:06
Even this is in the 37 Genesis 37 19, it just refers to they and I see Ruben.
45:11
So it says, they said to one another, here comes the dreamer.
45:14
I love that part.
45:15
Here comes the frickin dreamer.
45:16
Here comes a dreamer.
45:17
Now then come and let us kill him and throw him into one of the pits and we will say a
45:20
wild beast devoured him.
45:22
And then it continues because Rubens, the oldest, Ruben continues to talk.
45:27
And then Jude's the one that comes up with the idea to sell him while Rubens gone.
45:32
But so Simeon's not specific name, I just wonder if there was any reference to why he
45:36
kept Simeon in the birth order or whatever, because you would have thought that he would
45:41
have kept either the youngest or the oldest in that group.
45:45
I don't know what Simeon, Simeon could have been the youngest of the ones that came.
45:50
Yeah, not sure what it'd be.
45:52
Someone at home, tell us, fill in the gas wars, Adam, or who read last?
45:56
I read last.
45:57
You read last to Adam 26 or 38 of Genesis 42.
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So they loaded their donkeys with their grain and departed from there as one of them opened
46:07
his sack to give his donkey fodder at the large lodging place.
46:10
He saw his money and behold, it was in the mouth of his sack.
46:14
Then he said to his brothers, my money has been returned and behold, it is even in my
46:17
sack and their heart sank and they turned trembling to one another saying, what is this
46:22
that God has done to us?
46:25
They're just clueless.
46:26
This is not good.
46:27
Yeah.
46:28
This is bad.
46:29
They're 38.
46:30
Oh, 38.
46:32
When they came to their father Jacob in the land of Canaan, they told them that they told
46:36
them all that had happened to them, saying, the man, the Lord of the land spoke harshly
46:39
with us and took us for spies in the country.
46:42
But we said to him, we are honest men.
46:44
We are not spies.
46:45
We are 12 brothers, son of our father, one is no longer alive.
46:48
The youngest is with our father today in the land of Canaan.
46:51
The man, the Lord of the land said to us, by this, I will know that you are honest men.
46:55
Leave your brothers with me and take grain for the famine of your household and go.
46:59
But bring your youngest brother to me that I may know that you are not spies, but honest
47:03
men.
47:04
I will give your brother to you and you may trade in the land.
47:07
Now it came about as they were emptying their sacks that behold every man's bundle of money
47:11
was in his sack.
47:12
And when they and their father saw their bundles of money, they were dismayed.
47:16
Their father, Jacob said to them, you have bereaved me of my children.
47:19
Joseph is no more and Simeon is no more and you would take Benjamin.
47:23
All of these things are against me.
47:25
Then Ruben spoke to his father saying, you may put my two sons to death if I do not bring
47:29
him back to you, put him in my care and I will return him to you.
47:33
But Jacob said, my son shall not go down with you for his brother is dead and he alone
47:39
is left.
47:40
If harm should befall him on the journey you are taking, then you will bring my gray hair
47:44
down to shiel and sorrow.
47:46
Yeah.
47:47
So Ruben's offer was rejected, but you know, we see, we see a little bit later that another
47:54
one gets accepted.
47:55
But yeah, not interested in that.
47:57
You have to wonder, Ruben's motivation for putting up the lives of his two sons to make
48:04
a point and you know, because you could not guarantee safe passage to and from.
48:09
And so that's a lot.
48:10
Yes.
48:11
You know, that's obviously your progeny to put them on the chopping block in case Benjamin
48:15
doesn't come back.
48:16
Yeah.
48:17
So that's kind of a rough one.
48:18
But it is rough.
48:19
But again, Jacob is still showing that he has favorites.
48:20
He's willing to give up on Simeon because remember, Simeon's in Egypt.
48:25
He's bound.
48:26
He's in prison.
48:27
He's not in a good spot.
48:28
Jacob's not willing to sacrifice anything or risk anything to get Simeon back.
48:37
That seems strange to me.
48:38
Well, it shows that there's a major distrust that has been built there over what happened
48:44
to Joseph.
48:45
You know, he remembers the last time that he sent a son to go with his other sons and
48:52
he remembers that, you know, they didn't take care of him.
48:55
But it also implies that I don't know if he doesn't trust the story or if he just generally
49:00
doesn't trust them to get the job done.
49:04
And again, like a little earlier eluded to the idea, they're just standing around looking
49:08
at each other.
49:09
So it wouldn't make sense that he's like, man, I've got these 10 boys here that just
49:13
can't get it together.
49:14
And they don't know what to do.
49:15
I'm not going to send them Benjamin to get back Simeon who put himself in that position.
49:21
Perhaps this is a cultural issue or maybe Jacob's too old to make the trip.
49:25
But I would think if I was in that situation, like, I'm fricking going to Egypt and trying
49:28
to get my son back, right?
49:30
He's got to be too old.
49:31
He would just think like in the travel had to just been really, really rough.
49:35
Yeah.
49:36
I was thinking too, just about the contrast between like Jacob's attitude when he's kind
49:40
of woe is me, you know, everything's going wrong versus like Joseph's attitude.
49:45
I mean, the resilience and the, just the, the way that Joseph embraced the difficulty
49:51
of his entire life, you know, the last 20 years, I mean, compared to what Jacob's going
49:56
through right now is actually, I mean, it's pretty little, you know, I mean, yeah, he
50:01
lost, he lost his son, Joseph, he may have lost his other son, Simeon, but I mean, that
50:06
doesn't even compare.
50:07
And then the attitude that he's taken compared to, compared to Joseph is pretty stark.
50:11
When you, when you look at this and you think about the generational sin too, is that it's
50:16
crazy to see people fall into the same pattern that their fathers did or whatever it was.
50:23
I think on one of the podcasts here lately, that we're talking about the idea of like most
50:28
time abusive, abusive men were abused or something along those lines, the idea that
50:34
Jacob understood what it was like to be the not favorite son, you know, and, and to be
50:40
struggling with that all of his life.
50:42
And then, you know, manipulating his dad and realizing how, how that tore them apart and
50:48
things.
50:49
And he's still doing it.
50:50
He's still from the very get go picking a favorite and then that favorite's gone.
50:54
Okay, I'll pick my second favorite and he's got nobody to blame really about himself of
50:59
what's going on here.
51:00
The favorite is something.
51:01
It's like, it just will not get away from him.
51:04
It's constant over and over again.
51:06
When you just think about it, think about most of the old men in your life that are
51:10
set in their ways, like can't teach an old dog new tricks like, yeah, this is part for
51:14
the course.
51:15
Like this makes total sense.
51:16
Like a lot of people have, have really, you know, this is just kind of in their life.
51:21
And so they're just going to lean into it.
51:22
I had a guy ask me recently and like, yeah, you know, because his dad wasn't finishing
51:25
well, long time Christian, but it's not really finishing well, just kind of basically sitting
51:28
around and waiting, ready to die.
51:29
And he's like, what can I do to snap him out of this and, you know, get him to serve and
51:33
do all that.
51:34
I'm like nothing.
51:35
Literally nothing.
51:36
Like he's choosing to act out in this way and you can encourage and you can take away,
51:41
you know, roadblocks and stuff like that.
51:43
But at the end of the day, you can't do anything.
51:46
There's just no point to it.
51:47
Anything else as we wrap up 41 and 42 going once going twice.
51:52
All right, guys, we're going to leave it there.
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