THE FORGING TABLE | Genesis 38 & 39 (Ep. 779)

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0:31 This is Undaunted Life a Man's Podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.

0:56 Welcome back to the forging table. The mission of Undaunted Life is equipping men to push

1:00 back darkness with content that forges spiritual, mental, and physical resilience.

1:03 At the forging table you'll see a group of regular guys forging spiritual resilience by

1:08 digging into God's Word and we're welcoming all of you to come along on that journey with us.

1:10 That's Adam. That's Russ. That's Caleb. Can we just talk about it? Let's just address

1:15 the elephant in the room. I'm just going to get a new timer. It's obviously a me problem because

1:20 we were literally talking about this off air about the amount of struggle that we have. And if

1:25 you were on YouTube, you were treated to a struggle session, a short one, albeit a short one,

1:29 and you did get it going. So what's the hang up? Is it the double tap? That's what I just said.

1:34 It's like sometimes it needs a double tap. I won't do it because I know that whoever does it

1:40 will get ridiculed. I do. Well, it's not about the ridicule. It's about just not being able to do

1:44 your job. And so it's like, I don't know if it's just you've been a boss for too long, right?

1:47 And I don't know if that is that what it is? I'm just not going to do the timer.

1:51 I don't blame it. Not that timer. Get another timer. I've never, I've never done it. But honestly,

1:55 this is the first time I realized that you don't smash it. I thought this was kind of like a game.

1:59 Like maybe you smash it. Like blowing it. It's not a boppin. It's not a boppin. You know,

2:02 I should put a boppin out here and just say no, it's a timer and just see how long it takes people.

2:06 And also, apparently people can't do the clap part, right? Because our editor shout out the land,

2:10 who's great editor? He's like, hey, you know, because of the centrifugal force of the planet

2:14 and all that, we got to clap at the beginning, clap at the end, something, something to do with that.

2:17 Kyle, this is 2025. We should have a timer that starts on its own. When you start talking, it just

2:22 goes. How, like, how do we do that? He's pretty off air. He's talking about like a muzzle for a

2:26 dog that shoots out a treat. And so that's like how I should keep you guys on top of the microphone.

2:30 So people can actually hear you. You've got all these microphones and cameras. You can't get a

2:33 quality timer. We had to start it manually. It's gonna be an hourglass. You know what? How about

2:39 you just count using your fingers and toes on the next episode? Let's see how that goes. That could

2:43 work. What's the timer actually for? Is that to tell you just when an hour is up, you don't want to go?

2:48 I can see how long it's recording here. The point from the beginning, I feel like there's

2:52 about to be a mutiny against a timer where we just get rid of it entirely, right? But it's,

2:56 as we approach that, you know, 55ish minute mark, it's like, okay, don't bring up something that's

3:01 like, all right, guys, I've been waiting my whole life to bring this subject up and we have to leave

3:05 right after, you know, you need an hourglass because then you can just visually see it and we

3:10 don't got to do this. It's just a flip. Wait a minute. We can never actually use the timer.

3:14 We're going to do it live with black sand and actual. See if you can get one with the undaunted.

3:20 Oh, but we do a sticker on it. Sure. Do a custom. Okay, but hourglass. Okay. Amazon.com.

3:28 Let's see what we got. Yeah. Oh, black sand. They may even have some that have like a line

3:33 on it that shows like a quarter tell or something like that. Oh, there's got to be one with like a

3:38 deer antler elk antler or something like that. Oh, look at that one. That one's dope. Okay.

3:43 See, yeah, and that one days of our lives style, you know, these are our lives. What a reference

3:48 days wait a minute. It's just that growing up when we were home during summertime.

3:53 Stefano bow. Yeah, really? And then and then it got weird where she was like taking over by a

3:59 demon at one point. Oh my gosh. We all had this. We were all my children. Okay. All my children. So we didn't watch. I was in a cult. We didn't watch. Every time I think about a cult. I think about you now. Like you're in there. Thanks. Dude. What a random reference. But we my sister and I watched that. Yeah. Every single day. And we like. Do you know what's still going on? There's no way. Yeah. No. It is still there is no. And they still even reference. I am like, they don't have to go. They don't have to go. That I saw

4:28 a reference. And it was still some of the same characters names. Okay. He can see it. So y'all have to guess. When did days of our lives start? Oh, okay. 1967. Okay. 1967. Um, 19. 87 tried. 1965. You're kidding me. 1965. You're you're good at math. How many years is that 35 plus another 20 years? Twenty nine years. Twenty nine. Uh, I go right to it.

4:58 And it's a gay wedding. Okay. This is perfect. Oh, well, that's not Bo. What was Bo's lady's name? She's still in it. Oh, literally a gay wedding. We say 65 would be 67. Uh, 57 years. Well, if not, the internet's going to let you know how the couple of ladies 59 59. Yeah. Okay. Uh, hope. Hello and hope. Yeah. Ridiculous. It's crazy. Dr. Marlena Evans. Or wait. Yeah. Yeah. Marlena Evans. That was who Stefano is with. And Bob Brady apparently is, uh, nope. He's no longer part show as of 2023. This is going to be the worst.

5:28 Yeah. We have literally like two chap. We're, no, we got one chapter. We're good. Four and a half minutes and we're talking about days in our lives. This is great. Well, who brought up the hourglass? That's a good point. It's all your fault. You did. I did. I'll take it back because I think I think it's going to be great. I do think we're going to look back and it's going to be great for you and for us because people are really okay. So on the hourglass screen is apparently the world's worst timer. Okay. So someone thought it. Yeah. It's on the same screen. Right. No, that when people buy that, they end up getting an hourglass.

5:58 It's like, how did you scroll so far past all these hourglasses to not get an hourglass? Listen, whoever makes this though, quality stuff. We're not against it. It's just not for. I think it's from China. People that have to touch things.

6:11 China, did you have to pay a tariff when you bought that? Uh, no, because that was bought roughly around the same time days of our lives began. And so, uh, I've only had to replace the batteries once. Um, well, there's the norm. There's like the little click, uh, little timer for kids, like the timeout timer. Oh, yeah. Or the like the kitchen timer. Oh, my grandma had one

6:28 of those. No, but you remember that. You could also have the timeout camera or time out camera. I'm going to put you all time out over there. It'll just be a camera on you. But if somebody says something, like, if it's a sorry, Joby or something like that, too many times, you can just pass it to them. The problem is is Ryan would never get to talk. And so if he's here with all that study, he's done. Like he would just, I mean, one right after the other. Okay. What is this? Oh, that looks fancy. What is this? Are we allowed to show this on the internet? I don't know. Okay. All right. You too. I was thinking the same thing.

6:58 - I didn't want to say.

6:59 - Is that a lion's got a lion on the top of it?

7:01 - That's a lion, is it? - Oh, there you go.

7:02 There you go.

7:03 - Is it a sign? - It was meant to be.

7:05 - Okay, that's kind of ornate. - That's ornate.

7:07 - That's a little ornate for the--

7:10 - Well, I'll just become best friends.

7:12 - Okay, all right, but we know stuff like that

7:14 is kind of out there, 'cause that was my first thought,

7:16 I just didn't know the word ornate, so.

7:18 - Someone's gonna ship you an hour glass.

7:20 - You're gonna know what?

7:21 - One day it's gonna show up on your porch.

7:22 - This is what we're gonna do.

7:24 On the bottom of our website is our PO box.

7:26 So if you have always been a fan

7:28 and you've been looking for an opportunity

7:30 to make undaunted life or make me an hour glass,

7:33 not a 30 minute glass that we don't know,

7:36 it's on you now, it's on you guys now.

7:38 Don't let me buy some cheapo depot thing off of Amazon

7:41 because guess what, this cup, shout out to a guy

7:44 at Church 1122 for making me this leather pad thing

7:46 around all that, someone made us these coasters,

7:49 he's on Donna Coasters, someone spun these pins

7:52 out of like olive wood from Jerusalem

7:54 and gave to some of the core guys here.

7:56 So yeah, that's it, that's it.

7:58 - I like it.

7:59 - This is the worst introduction of all time.

8:01 But you know, it's okay, I think we've come a long way

8:04 and Caleb just watched the entire time as this went down.

8:07 We've decided this is the worst thing ever, but we did.

8:10 Oh, I was gonna say, clapping apparently is really hard too

8:13 'cause we got off on days of our lives somehow,

8:14 but the, so Howard Wiggersham was sitting right there

8:18 because if you're above about six foot two,

8:19 you have to sit in the corner

8:21 because you're just gonna engulf everyone.

8:23 So Jank Winkler will always sit there, definitely not Sam Hays

8:27 Winkle, we love you Sam, but you are fun sized.

8:29 But Howard's over there in that chair and he, he's like,

8:33 yeah, I'll be the clapper.

8:34 And so I said, okay, you know, right before I start

8:38 my introduction, so you'll hear, you'll see me over here.

8:40 I'll hit my two buttons and just go ahead and clap

8:42 and then I'll do my introduction.

8:43 Two or three episodes in a row, he clapped

8:46 as I was doing my introduction and he's a smart guy.

8:49 He's a really smart guy, he makes a good living.

8:50 He's got a great family.

8:51 Like, he clapped as I was talking and I was kind of like,

8:56 Howard, like, no, no, no, you wait.

8:58 And he's like, oh, okay, and the next one happens.

9:00 Like, all right, welcome back to the forging table

9:01 and blah, blah, blah, it's like, okay guys, all right,

9:03 we need to chill out with that a little bit.

9:04 - You should have kept it in.

9:05 - I should, you know, that entire, every single introduction

9:08 was messed up for that entire set of episodes

9:10 and I just totally ended up leaving it in.

9:11 I was like, it is better because I'm giggling like a girl,

9:14 like the entire time during the introduction.

9:16 So I'm like, no, just leave it, just leave it in there.

9:18 It's funny, like it doesn't have to be that serious.

9:20 Like guys know that we're all boys.

9:21 Even my dad, he watches every single one of these.

9:23 His favorite part is when we get after Ryan.

9:26 That's like his favorite thing.

9:27 - It's everybody's favorite.

9:29 - Because everyone likes Ryan,

9:30 but we also like to kind of get after him a little bit

9:32 and he likes to give it back to us.

9:34 - I don't, just 'cause I don't know him well enough

9:37 to feel, you know, I wanna stay out of that.

9:39 - So you know what you need to do?

9:40 You need to be the most ruthless with him.

9:43 Just make it awkward where he's just like--

9:45 - From the start.

9:45 - Why is this guy that I barely know?

9:47 Just like, 'cause you're also the only one

9:48 that doesn't, or you and Matt, the only ones

9:50 that don't go to our church, and so it's like,

9:51 kind of a shame on you situation.

9:52 So he's already gonna get on you off

9:54 or going to a church with female elders

9:56 and letting women pass this and all that kind of stuff.

9:58 - He has words come out of his mouth sometimes.

10:01 - You just gotta be ready, man.

10:02 But so you're gonna have the thing.

10:03 You're only here for an hour and then you leave

10:05 and you don't have to see him again.

10:06 So just let it fly.

10:07 - Okay.

10:08 - Right?

10:09 - Let it go.

10:10 - Yeah, you're a very mean person.

10:11 You know, you're very mean spirited.

10:12 And so you just bring that person out in here, man.

10:15 - Yeah.

10:16 - You cool with that?

10:17 - No.

10:18 - I'm gonna pass him right off of that.

10:19 Caleb, I need you to save us here.

10:21 We're gonna be getting into a short jaunt

10:24 away from the narrative of Joseph's life.

10:27 So we got a lot of Joseph coming

10:30 and we've had a lot of Joseph stuff to this point,

10:31 but we are taking an interruption

10:33 to talk about Judah and Tamar.

10:35 And so let's read the first 11 verses of Genesis 38

10:38 and what vert you're reading out of the ESV.

10:39 - Yep.

10:40 - Is that what everyone's got today?

10:41 You're an IV.

10:42 - An ASB.

10:43 - An ASB, Nazby.

10:44 That's what we use at Faith Bible Church

10:45 and Em in Oklahoma, shout out.

10:46 So let's go.

10:47 (clears throat)

10:49 It happened at that time that Judah went down

10:51 from his brothers and turned aside

10:52 to a certain dolemite whose name was Hera.

10:55 There Judah saw the daughter of a certain Canaanite

10:57 whose name was Shua.

10:59 He took her and went into her

11:00 and she conceived and bore a son

11:02 and he called his name Er.

11:04 She convinced, or she conceived again and bore a son

11:08 and she called his name Onon.

11:10 Yet again she bore a son and she called his name Shela.

11:13 Judah was in Chezib when she bore him

11:16 and Judah took a wife for Er, his firstborn.

11:18 Her name was Tamar, but Er, Judah's firstborn,

11:21 was wicked inside of the Lord and the Lord put him to death.

11:24 Then Judah said to Onon, "Go into your brother's wife

11:27 "and perform the duty of a brother in law to her

11:29 "and raise up offspring for your brother."

11:31 But Onon knew that the offspring would not be his.

11:34 So whenever he went into his brother's wife,

11:36 he would waste the semen on the ground

11:38 so as not to give offspring to his brother.

11:40 And what he did was wicked in the side of the Lord

11:42 and he put him to death also.

11:44 Then Judah said to Tamar, "His daughter-in-law,

11:46 "remain a widow in your father's house till Shela,

11:49 "my son grows up, for he feared that he would die

11:53 "like his brothers."

11:54 So Tamar went and remained in her father's house.

11:57 - So I was curious when we got to this section

11:59 to ask you guys, I have seen this section of scripture,

12:02 especially six through 11 used by a lot, excuse me,

12:06 used by a lot of atheists in a lot of different contexts,

12:10 out of context, to try to talk about how cruel

12:12 and mean and nasty God is.

12:14 So they're like, "Oh yeah, this guy from the Bible,

12:16 "he like masturbated and he let us see him

12:17 "and go into the ground and God like killed him."

12:20 When it's like, no, that's not how that happened.

12:23 And God was forcing a man to have like an affair,

12:27 like that kind of a situation here.

12:28 It's like, no, not that either.

12:30 So I don't know, like if you guys like,

12:31 'cause also I've heard,

12:32 'cause there are people out there that are pro-abortion

12:34 that say masturbation is abortion.

12:37 But they're doing it as a, like as a, you know,

12:40 they're targeting and picking out pro-lifers.

12:42 Like, oh, have you ever masturbated?

12:44 Like our wet dreams abortion, our blah, blah, blah,

12:46 'cause they apparently don't understand the concept

12:47 of a, you know, one-celled zygote

12:49 that comes from a one-celled sperm cell

12:51 and a one-celled egg cell.

12:52 And so I just didn't know if y'all had seen that before

12:54 because as soon as I read this section,

12:55 I was just like flooded with all that.

12:58 - Yeah, for sure.

12:58 I mean, even among some Christians,

13:00 I think they say that they look to this as a,

13:03 as verses that are, you know,

13:05 speaking against masturbation.

13:07 But I mean, obviously that's not what was happening here.

13:10 So.

13:11 - Have you guys, yeah.

13:12 So one thing that stuck with me was that

13:15 God is not against family planning,

13:18 but this was family plotting.

13:19 Like the intent here was, was really wicked

13:23 in that this, this was him deciding for himself

13:28 that he was going to withhold this inheritance

13:32 from his brother and from his lineage.

13:35 And so, I mean, like the idea that,

13:37 the idea that people use that, you know,

13:39 that's just people are going to use whatever they see

13:42 to their own means, but he's, he is wicked

13:45 because he is plotting against for one,

13:47 what his father instructed him to do.

13:50 And he's also plotting against his dead brother

13:52 in his name.

13:54 So.

13:55 - When it's a, I guess I don't know,

13:56 you pronounce it, but to leverate or leverot marriage.

14:00 So basically the brother of the deceased was,

14:03 if he didn't have any offspring,

14:04 he was to marry his brother's widow.

14:07 And any offspring would be considered

14:09 the original husband's, right?

14:10 The original brother who was married

14:11 and all that type of thing.

14:13 And so it was basically his duty.

14:14 And it's kind of a derivative of the duty

14:16 of if someone killed your brother in battle,

14:18 it was incumbent upon you to, you know,

14:20 have blood for blood and to take over in that sense.

14:24 And go ahead.

14:25 - If I remember correctly,

14:26 this didn't actually come from the Hebrews.

14:29 This was a part of other cultures.

14:31 And then it ended up being adopted by the Hebrews

14:34 and later on put into, I believe the mosaic law.

14:37 And this is gonna sound silly.

14:39 Shout out to my wife who made me watch

14:41 some type of, not a rom-com.

14:44 Maybe it is some little rom-com,

14:46 but it was about this in present day where this guy,

14:50 he had a brother that was an acidic Jew.

14:52 He wasn't, he was a doctor somewhere.

14:54 His brother died.

14:56 He has to take over and be her husband

14:58 for a period of time.

15:00 It was really, you know, I watched it

15:02 because it makes my wife like me.

15:04 - I was wondering when that was gonna go.

15:05 - Is this story? - I don't still know where it went.

15:07 - Well, my point is, I guess some people still may do this

15:12 or still may have this practice of this can be a way that,

15:15 I don't know, in the movie it made it seem that way.

15:18 - We've already been on IMDB once in this episode.

15:21 Do you have any idea what this is called?

15:22 In case guys are struggling.

15:24 - I tell you what, if you just put in movie,

15:29 movie about doctor, brother, acidic Jew,

15:32 taking brother's wife.

15:35 - That's how like Joe Rogan gives Jamie instructions.

15:38 Like the Google taking. - These are words.

15:40 - Okay, wife, rom, com.

15:42 Okay, all right, we're putting Google to the test here.

15:45 Nobody wants this?

15:48 Is that what it was called?

15:49 Nobody wants this?

15:50 - I don't know.

15:51 - Well, we somehow got to the 10 best Jewish movies

15:54 on Netflix right now, which you should not have Netflix

15:57 because they still have the QDs show on there,

15:59 which shows a little girl's dancing

16:00 for the sexual pleasure of adult men

16:02 to eat her own.

16:03 No?

16:04 - And you're saying like I would know.

16:06 - You don't know the title at all.

16:07 - No.

16:08 - Okay, I think we should break phone protocol.

16:10 We need TIFF.

16:11 We need TIFF to tell us exactly what this

16:12 and how did she hear about it?

16:14 What kind of Bible study is she in?

16:16 Where this was suggested,

16:17 this probably four out of 10 stars movie, but okay.

16:20 - All right, no fun though.

16:22 - All right, whenever she gets back through.

16:24 But yeah, that was the other thing in this section.

16:25 So I guess O'Nan, O'Nan, he was second born,

16:30 but he wanted the place of the firstborn for himself

16:33 and he wanted double inheritance.

16:34 And so I think this is part of the plotting part

16:36 that Russ was talking about to where it's like, okay,

16:38 this was not like, no, I just love my brother so much

16:41 and I just can't imagine having sex with his wife

16:44 and it's just too weird and like,

16:45 I actually am in love with her sister.

16:47 Like it wasn't any of that.

16:48 Like it was literally like super selfish.

16:50 - 100% selfish.

16:51 She was willing to have sex, right?

16:52 But not fulfill what he was asked to do.

16:56 So I mean, I think this is just the kind of the beginning

16:59 of a long line of like, let me take this in my own hands,

17:01 make my own decision kind of thing that we're seeing here.

17:04 Obviously, we know that never works out.

17:06 - Think about the dominoes that have happened to Judah here.

17:08 So first of all, he comes and he moves to Canaan.

17:12 Like he's with the Canaanites.

17:13 Like that's a problem, danger zone.

17:15 Not only that, but then he takes a Canaanite wife.

17:18 That's also a problem.

17:19 So it made me think of what happened with Abraham and Sarah

17:23 and Sarah encouraging Abraham to sleep with Hagar.

17:28 And then here we go, here's Ishmael.

17:30 So it's, you know, danger zone.

17:31 This is not gonna be good.

17:33 And then of course, you know, Judah, you would presume

17:35 that he probably knows better.

17:37 And then first son dies, second son dies.

17:39 It's like, dude, this is a problem.

17:41 And then he still continues to go further

17:44 in trying to protect his third son.

17:46 And it's like, okay, I'm gonna take this over myself.

17:49 My first two sons have died.

17:50 I'm still not listening to God, but I am smarter.

17:53 And I know what's supposed to be done.

17:55 I'm gonna protect my son.

17:57 One we see in verse nine, he still had sex with her.

18:00 - Right.

18:00 - So he was not above sleeping with his brother's widow,

18:05 but by golly, he was not an insuminator.

18:08 So it's like, okay, all right, bold move cotton.

18:10 But I guess the thing about this little episode here,

18:14 I guess you could call him in IMDB mode.

18:16 By the way, chat TBT thinks the name of the movie

18:18 is Loving Lea, a Hallmark movie from 2009.

18:21 - Yeah, I think that's, that maybe, she hasn't responded,

18:24 but that sounds familiar.

18:25 - Okay. These are our lives, Hallmark movies.

18:28 - Yeah, so it literally, chat TBT is like,

18:31 it sounds like you're referring to Loving Lea

18:33 a 2009 Hallmark Hall of Fame.

18:35 Not just Hallmark Hall of Fame drama

18:38 that blends the traditional Jewish customs.

18:39 - That's it, that's it.

18:41 - Chat TBT, not even in the ballpark.

18:44 But yeah, just so for anybody else.

18:45 Okay, now that we know the name of it, Loving Lea.

18:48 - After this releases, they're gonna get 10,000 downloads.

18:50 And we'll be like, what is happening?

18:52 Why did they, Loving Lea?

18:53 Okay, what do we think?

18:55 What would you give it out of 10 stars on IMDB?

18:58 Well, what are you giving this movie?

18:59 Loving Lea.

19:00 - Me and myself as a.

19:02 - Just you as a film critic.

19:04 - I mean, five.

19:06 - You gave it a five?

19:07 - Out of 10.

19:08 It's just not my genre.

19:10 - It's a Hall of Fame.

19:11 - Okay.

19:11 - I mean.

19:12 - Fairly shocking here.

19:14 - If you're a, if you're my wife, it's a really good movie

19:17 for if that's what you're looking for.

19:20 It's a really good movie.

19:21 I would say my wife would probably give it.

19:22 - Always looking for that.

19:23 - Like eight point five. - Huge fans of Genesis 38.

19:25 - Eight point five for just like a good little love story.

19:28 - Okay, because people are really stingy on IMDB.

19:31 Like when you go to like the top 100 movies of all time,

19:34 like there's, I think there's two or three movie.

19:36 What we'll do is we'll just do it live.

19:37 This has 4,000 reviews and it's a 7.1 out of 10.

19:41 - That's pretty good.

19:42 - That is an incredibly solid score.

19:45 Like in the world of IMDB.

19:46 - I follow Rotten Tomatoes more

19:48 and I don't look at the critics.

19:49 I just look at the audience score.

19:50 - Well, what would you, so--

19:52 - Would you give it a tomato?

19:53 Would you watch it again?

19:54 - I've watched that movie so many times.

19:59 - You've watched it multiple times.

20:01 I feel like we're, it's like when you just casually

20:04 mentioned you were in a cold like a year and a half ago.

20:06 - So she says, she responded, "Loving Leah,

20:09 "I so good Levi marriage.

20:13 "Do you want to watch it again tonight?"

20:15 (laughing)

20:18 - Okay, so this is great.

20:20 So now Rotten Tomatoes,

20:22 it has no scores from real critics.

20:25 But the audience score has it at 72.

20:28 - That's pretty good.

20:29 - It's pretty good.

20:30 - It's actually really,

20:31 so like they went to a lot of links

20:33 to make it fairly accurate on a lot of stuff.

20:35 I'm obviously not Jewish.

20:37 Don't know everything about it,

20:39 but there are a lot of things in it

20:41 that very much are true to the Jewish population.

20:45 - I wrote it down.

20:47 My wife loves movies so--

20:49 - Okay, I don't--

20:50 - Maybe I'll be watching.

20:51 - I was gonna say something too early,

20:53 but I felt like--

20:54 - It looks scripted.

20:55 It's spectacular.

20:56 - That is awesome.

20:57 - Did you write anything filthy

20:58 and that you wouldn't want to show to the world?

21:00 'Cause I think the planet needs to see it.

21:01 Your camera's right there.

21:02 Your camera too, baby.

21:04 Show 'em that.

21:04 We can't zoom in, but that is spectacular.

21:07 Let me see your hand.

21:08 Yeah, your handwriting's atrocious.

21:10 That's why all your stuff's written out.

21:11 - Yep, no, I typed it all.

21:12 - Yeah, you're like a doctor.

21:13 - It's not good.

21:14 - I mean, how are you doing?

21:15 Mine is discernible to me.

21:17 - Yeah, I'm like you, except for less.

21:21 - Yeah, I wrote, well, that's a lot of areas, right?

21:23 I'm kind of like you, but like 15% more normal.

21:26 That's kind of normal.

21:28 But I did want to ask you,

21:29 oh, I said I was gonna look at the IMDB scores, which I do,

21:32 but what do you guys say,

21:34 being a little bit serious here in this section,

21:35 especially six through 11,

21:37 about how people read that and just go like,

21:40 that's not a loving God.

21:42 Like this guy, for whatever reason, yeah,

21:44 he was selfish, yeah, he was whatever,

21:46 but he killed him.

21:47 He killed him because he, you know,

21:49 sploosh on the ground, like, come on.

21:51 And this is whenever, you know,

21:53 you're Andy Stanley guys that are like unhitchers.

21:56 They love stories like this in the Old Testament,

21:57 'cause they're like, that's not, you know,

21:59 basically the God that I would want to send somebody

22:01 to her talk about.

22:02 - But is God giving us every single detail?

22:04 Do we know all of the things that this guy really did,

22:07 all of the things that were in his heart,

22:08 all of the things that he'd done in his life?

22:10 No, and I believe that there's more to that.

22:13 And I wrote down, I would love to have had more detail

22:16 about her, it literally doesn't say anything,

22:18 it's in one sentence, he was wicked, killed him.

22:21 I would love to have more detail,

22:22 but there's no more detail.

22:23 - I think the word wicked really points to it.

22:25 You know, you actually do have this in the New Testament,

22:28 I forget their names, but the couple that comes in acts

22:31 and tells Paul that they've sold everything

22:33 and they're giving it to the church and they're wicked.

22:36 I mean, like they're more than that's just a sin,

22:39 that's wrong, they're basically trying to twist things

22:44 in a way, and that's exactly what this brother is doing.

22:46 He's twisting this idea of sleeping with her

22:50 to his benefit, not letting his dad know it's truly wicked.

22:54 So, I mean, this says that God struck him down.

22:57 Again, God's judgment is probably better than ours.

23:01 So if the ultimate judge says you should die,

23:05 you should probably die.

23:06 - Well, that's another thing.

23:07 When you read some of these narratives,

23:08 I remember having this feeling a lot,

23:09 when we were going through acts,

23:11 gosh, we were covering all kinds of ground

23:14 and it'd be in a paragraph.

23:15 So it'd take one of y'all 30 seconds to read,

23:18 but this would have been years of narrative,

23:20 years of stuff.

23:21 And that's partially, probably one of the reasons why,

23:25 I always get my hackles up when people are like,

23:27 anti the chosen or anti house of David

23:29 or anti stuff like that.

23:31 'Cause even house of David on Amazon,

23:32 like I had several people say that,

23:35 yeah, you should watch that, Joby was one of them.

23:37 The very first screen it shows is,

23:40 this is not a, you know,

23:42 verse by verse retelling from the Bible

23:43 or, you know, a perfect historical narrative.

23:45 We have taken some liberties for the storyline.

23:48 So basically keep that in mind as you're watching this

23:50 because it's like, we don't know what little shepherd boy,

23:54 David was saying to King Saul whenever he was

23:56 in his bed chambers, playing the heart form to calm him down

23:59 'cause he was losing his freaking mind.

24:01 And so the problem becomes is, okay,

24:03 the chosen becomes your New Testament, right?

24:05 The house of David becomes, you know, first and second Samuel

24:08 for your life and yeah, that's deeply problematic

24:10 but otherwise it's not a big deal.

24:12 Oh, I thought you had something to come in.

24:14 - If you like the movie, you should read the book.

24:16 - Also true.

24:17 - It's a type of deal.

24:18 - Also true.

24:19 - That's for--

24:19 - Read the source material.

24:20 - Yeah, anything you're watching, if you really liked it,

24:21 most people that are fans of something

24:23 have either already read the book

24:25 or they watch it and go back and read the book

24:27 and that's the same thing you should do with those shows.

24:29 - What book?

24:30 - I love Bible.

24:32 - Which one are we talking about?

24:33 - It's called The Chosen.

24:34 - Okay, it's a milking of the chosen volume one.

24:38 - I already get really angry emails.

24:39 Can we not get any more?

24:40 Okay, so this is what we're gonna do.

24:42 So basically if you're in the top 250

24:44 on the internet movie database and there are,

24:45 I think there's millions of movies that are on here.

24:47 Don't look, don't look at them.

24:48 All right, you're in the eights.

24:51 It's eight and above.

24:52 So the fact that this loving Leah is in the sevens

24:54 is pretty spectacular.

24:56 I wanna see how many of the top 10 movies y'all can guess.

24:59 Wait, I mean, we're not gonna sit here all day

25:01 but most people know what the number one

25:02 and everyone kind of knows one, two, three, four.

25:06 Like for the most part, yeah.

25:07 - This is not a game for me.

25:07 It's Forrest Galtron of them.

25:09 - Forrest Gump is not in the top 10.

25:11 It is number 11.

25:12 - Okay.

25:13 - Titanic.

25:14 Titanic is not in the top 10

25:15 but it is in the top 250.

25:16 - Casablanca.

25:20 - Casablanca, not in the top 10.

25:21 - Gone with the win.

25:22 - Gone with the win, not in the top 10.

25:24 - That was a good guess.

25:25 - There's like some major low range fruit.

25:29 - Godfather.

25:30 - Which one?

25:31 - There we go.

25:32 - One, yeah.

25:33 - Yeah, that's number two.

25:34 - Sound of music.

25:35 - Sound of music not in the top 10.

25:36 - Not in our house.

25:39 - No.

25:40 - We watch "Loving Lea" in the sound of music.

25:44 - We have to do a top 10.

25:45 Can you send it, can I have a tip?

25:47 - Oh, I got it.

25:48 I got it.

25:48 - I got it.

25:49 - Pacific Rim.

25:50 - Definitely not.

25:51 No.

25:52 - Pacific Rim is great.

25:53 - How many of them are in the top 10?

25:55 - How many of them are fastest in the furies?

25:56 - Guys, I thought this was gonna be super easy.

26:00 - Look, gladiators, like number 33,

26:01 it's one of the most egregious injustices of all time.

26:04 Braveheart is not in the top 10.

26:06 - I'll just give him my top 10.

26:07 - Y'all got one.

26:08 - He got one.

26:09 - And a Webstone.

26:10 - No, no.

26:11 - Those are my top 10.

26:12 - What about Bob?

26:13 - I've just never heard of it.

26:14 - Indiana Jones was my name.

26:15 - This is not going well.

26:16 And of course, not that terrible movie's not on there.

26:18 Nope, that terrible stuff is not on here either.

26:21 But there is a very, very awful--

26:22 - Oh, Lord of the Rings.

26:24 - Yes. - No.

26:25 - Lord of the Rings?

26:26 Well, which one?

26:26 - I don't know.

26:28 - Twin Towers.

26:29 - That is number 12, or it's called Two Towers, you terrorist.

26:32 So it's the other two that are in the top 10.

26:34 Fellowship of the Ring is nine,

26:36 and Return of the King is six.

26:39 - What?

26:39 - Yeah.

26:40 - I watch all three of those movies in one day,

26:42 and I never want that to happen to me again.

26:43 - All right, I'm gonna--

26:44 - It was awful.

26:45 - Brother, you didn't like Lord of the Rings either?

26:47 - No.

26:48 - You and me, it's literally a crew of two.

26:52 - I can't, we'll get, no, yeah.

26:54 We're about to have some Hallmark Hall of Fame music

26:55 in the background because I thought it was the only human

26:58 on the planet.

26:59 So, okay, I was gonna wait for Jake Winkler,

27:02 but I'm gonna give Jake a little bit of a heads-up here

27:04 because he's on the next batch

27:05 we're wrapping up Genesis,

27:07 and Jake is a great dude.

27:10 Jake is in that, there's no joke here.

27:11 Jake is a tremendous dude, he is a servant,

27:14 and he found out that Kelsey said,

27:17 you know, I'd really like to watch Lord of the Rings.

27:19 Like, I'd never watch it, everyone refers to it,

27:21 I think I'd like to watch it.

27:22 And I've talked so much trash about Lord of the Rings

27:24 over the years because I watched one and a half of them

27:26 25 years ago, and I said, okay, you know what,

27:29 this is a great time for me to just be humble,

27:33 have a go in and a different mindset,

27:36 just wipe the slate clean and see if my wife

27:38 and I can get into this.

27:39 And so, what we did is we approached it like a TV show.

27:42 So, we didn't watch the three hour movie,

27:44 the three hour movie, the three hour movie,

27:45 we were watching about an hour at a time.

27:46 So, Jake takes the extended cuts of these movies,

27:50 which, how can you imagine that they're even longer

27:52 than they are, and he breaks it down in episodic form.

27:56 And I think he did it from memory.

27:58 He's like, hey, around this time period,

27:59 it's gonna be, this battle will have ended.

28:01 And then, you know, we have kind of a new narrative

28:02 with thought it on, this doofy elf and this,

28:04 whatever, Hobbit and all this type of thing.

28:07 And so, Kelsey and I went into it,

28:08 and by the end, I was ready to peel my toenails off

28:13 with pliers.

28:13 I could not, the movie just wouldn't end.

28:16 And here's one of the most egregious plot holes

28:19 in the history of cinema.

28:20 There you go for some hyperbole, even though it's not.

28:23 It takes some two and a half movies.

28:25 To remember, oh, there's an undead zombie army

28:29 in the middle of this wooded area.

28:31 All we gotta go in and do is do a little sales pitch.

28:34 You know, we just gotta like win friends

28:35 and influence people, convince them to fight on our side.

28:38 They fight on their side, they take out the little,

28:41 you know, mammoth elephant army and all that.

28:42 And then, you know, a King Aragorn

28:44 who was supposed to be Russell Crowe did?

28:46 - Aragorn.

28:47 - He just, what did I say?

28:48 - It's not going on. - It's not going on.

28:49 - Aragorn, it's Aragorn.

28:50 - It doesn't, it's Aragorn.

28:52 - No. - I don't know.

28:53 - Are you sure? - Pretty sure.

28:55 - Okay, we're up. - But it does.

28:56 - He seems pretty confident.

28:57 - It's Aragorn.

28:58 - And that really kind of lost all my steam.

29:00 Aragorn, Aragorn. - Boom.

29:03 - Aragorn, take it back. - I was wrong, I was wrong.

29:07 - Anyway, so should have been Russell Crowe,

29:08 but instead it's Vigo Mortensen,

29:10 even though I like Vigo Mortensen,

29:11 he lets the undead zombie army that can't die,

29:16 just let's him go.

29:18 Just let's him go.

29:19 After the penultimate battle, not the final battle.

29:22 Make it make sense, Dorks, right?

29:24 All you Lord of the Rings people, how?

29:26 - Doesn't.

29:26 - Am I the only one that's that?

29:28 That's just fired up, I was so mad.

29:30 I was like, we wasted like--

29:31 - I like Lord of the Rings by 10 hours.

29:33 - I don't like it enough to try to get into combat

29:37 on what you're talking about, right?

29:39 - I thought of one that's gotta be on that top 10 list.

29:42 Shawshank Redemption.

29:43 It's number one.

29:44 - Okay, nice. - Is it number one?

29:45 - Number one. - Okay, nice.

29:46 - So we're just gonna end this

29:48 'cause it got a little bit off the rails here.

29:49 So we'll just do our top 20 here,

29:51 'cause I think everyone's seen these and likes these.

29:54 Seven is number 20. - So good.

29:56 - One flew over the Kuku's nest, I've not seen that.

29:58 That's Jack Nicholson from back in the '70s.

30:00 Interstellar is 18, 17 is Goodfellows, which is great.

30:05 16 is The Matrix, 15 is Star Wars Episode Five,

30:11 Empire Strikes Back, so Episode Five.

30:13 What would that be, the second original one?

30:14 - Yeah, I think so.

30:15 - All right, there you go.

30:16 - Actually, that's one of my least favorite ones.

30:18 - Okay, well, see, there you go.

30:19 Number 14, Inception, gosh, Christopher Nolan

30:22 has a bunch on here.

30:24 13 is Fight Club.

30:25 12 is Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers, 11 is Forrest Gump.

30:28 10 is The Good, the Bad and the Ugly,

30:30 even though I like the Outlaw and Josie Wells better,

30:32 but that is number 10.

30:33 Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring is nine.

30:34 Pulp Fiction is number eight.

30:36 That's a movie I watched about three or four times

30:37 and still can't figure out why it's so popular.

30:39 Schindler's List, if you wanna ruin your Friday night,

30:41 watch that one, it's a great movie, but it is Yikes.

30:44 - Watch it one time.

30:44 - Yeah, that's enough. - Yes, no.

30:46 - Yeah, that's kinda like in the category

30:47 of Passion of the Christ.

30:48 - Yeah, we watched that once, we checked the box,

30:50 we just never do that again.

30:51 That's number seven.

30:51 Lord of the Rings Return of the King is number six.

30:53 12 Angry Men is number five.

30:56 Anybody, anybody from 1957?

30:58 The Godfather of part two is number four, The Dark Knight

31:02 is number three, and then the Godfather of number two,

31:05 Charles Shank Redemption number one.

31:06 - I think I know somebody that went on a date,

31:09 like first date to Passion of the Christ.

31:12 - There's no way, there's no way.

31:14 - Who is it? - No, I for sure know.

31:17 - Say their name, say it in public.

31:19 I don't wanna listen to this show, it's small, just say it.

31:21 - It was a girl, and yeah, I'm not gonna say it.

31:25 - Okay, all right.

31:26 - Who I think it is.

31:27 - Oh no, whose idea was it, his?

31:30 - Yes. - And she said yes.

31:31 - I don't think she knew what she was going to.

31:34 He said, do you wanna go to a movie?

31:38 She said yes, showed up to the movie.

31:40 Passion of the Christ, didn't go so well.

31:44 - So they didn't get married.

31:45 - Right after, no, I don't think they talked after that.

31:49 I mean, it was an awkward date, there was tears.

31:53 (laughing)

31:55 - There was a crucifixion.

31:57 There was a very long vlogging scene.

31:59 - Yeah, actually, whenever I think about that,

32:02 I wonder if that was just, if he'd won a bet,

32:05 or he lost a bet.

32:06 - You know what I think it is?

32:07 If I were to like, Jordan Peterson, like analyze this guy,

32:09 I bet he was trying to show her just how dedicated

32:12 of a Christian he was. - I kinda think so.

32:13 - And it's just like, I could take you to Bible study

32:15 or a coffee shop.

32:16 I'm gonna take you to the foot of the crossbow,

32:19 and she was just not feeling it.

32:20 - And maybe she was in for 50 Shades of Grey, you know?

32:22 She was like, I'm ready for some 50 Shades of Grey.

32:25 - I don't think that was that type of girl either, but.

32:28 - And this would've been back in,

32:28 when was that released, early 2000s?

32:31 I think it was in ninth grade,

32:32 and I was in ninth or 10th grade, so 2000, 2001,

32:34 is when that would've came out.

32:35 - Yeah, yeah, that's right.

32:37 - Sheesh, okay, that's a very bold move.

32:41 So anyway, let's wrap up, did anybody have any other thoughts

32:43 on, you know, people read a segment like this?

32:45 Six through 11, and they're like, yeah, this God,

32:47 I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't follow this God anyway.

32:49 He just kills people for ejaculating that kind of thing.

32:52 Anybody want to put a bow on that?

32:55 I don't blame it, or you do.

32:56 Let's go. - No, no, no.

32:57 I was just gonna say, that's the worst t-shirt idea.

33:01 So you put a bow on it, don't make a t-shirt of it.

33:05 - Put a bow on it, why?

33:06 - No, nothing.

33:07 - This is a bad joke. - No, no, no.

33:09 No, explain, I know it's worse

33:11 when you have to explain the joke,

33:12 but I missed it entirely, which is my fault.

33:13 - Yeah, you said you want to put a bow on it,

33:15 and then you quoted that, and I said, yeah,

33:17 that sounds like the worst t-shirt idea I've ever heard.

33:20 - Just, I still, I have, man, am I dense to hear y'all?

33:23 - About what you said about ejaculating?

33:24 - Yeah. - Yeah.

33:25 - Putting the ejaculate on a t-shirt,

33:27 like bows and ejaculate on a t-shirt

33:30 probably don't go well, I think is what he was saying.

33:32 - Man, just whatever phrase that you just said,

33:34 it just popped in my mind, I was like, that's a callism,

33:37 there should be a t-shirt, and I thought,

33:38 no, that shouldn't be a t-shirt.

33:40 - I mean, I swear I'm gonna make a t-shirt that's it.

33:41 - Can we edit this out?

33:42 This is quite bad. - No, that's some problem.

33:44 - And that's the thing is, I like to answer jokes.

33:46 - Somebody's gonna get it.

33:47 - I made some sorry Joby shirts,

33:49 and I wore 'em around his church,

33:50 and people thought they had no idea what it was referring to,

33:52 but they loved it.

33:53 So I'm trying to, I wanna make some shirts,

33:55 I'd say red meat and Christian metal on it,

33:57 but I think I might sell four of 'em,

33:58 'cause I think there's not a whole lot of people

33:59 that are into both of those things.

34:01 Hopefully not, if that's wrong, let me know audience,

34:03 but let's move on here, Adam.

34:05 Let's go ahead and read 12 through,

34:07 I think we're gonna finish up the chapter, yeah.

34:09 Let's 12 through the end of Genesis 38.

34:12 - Now, after a considerable time,

34:13 she was daughter, the wife of Judah died,

34:16 and when the time of morning was ended,

34:18 Judah went up to the sheep shearers at Timna.

34:21 He and his friend, Hera the Adelomite.

34:24 It was told to Tamar, "Behold, your father-in-law

34:26 "is going up to Timna to shear his sheep."

34:28 So she removed her widow's garments

34:30 and covered herself with a veil,

34:31 and wrapped herself and sat in the gateway of Ineam,

34:35 which is on the road to Timna.

34:37 For she saw that Sheila had grown up,

34:39 and she had not been given to him as a wife.

34:42 When Judah saw her, he thought she was a harlot,

34:45 for she had covered her face.

34:46 So he turned aside to her by the road,

34:48 and said, "Here now, let me come into you."

34:51 For he did not know that she was his daughter-in-law,

34:53 and she said, "What will you give me

34:55 "that you may come into me?"

34:56 He said, "Therefore, I will send you a young goat

34:59 "from the flock."

35:00 She said, "Moreover, will you give me a pledge

35:02 "until you send it?"

35:03 He said, "What pledge shall I give you?"

35:06 And she said, "Your seal and your cord

35:08 "and your staff that is in your hand."

35:10 So he gave them to her and went into her,

35:12 and she conceived by him.

35:14 Then she arose and departed and removed her veil

35:17 and put on her widow's garments.

35:18 When Judah sent the youngest goat by his friend,

35:21 the Adamolite, to receive the pledge from the woman's hand,

35:25 he did not find her.

35:26 He asked the men of her place,

35:28 saying, "Where is the Temple Prostitute

35:29 "who was by the road at Ineam?"

35:31 But they said, "There has been no Temple Prostitute here."

35:34 So he returned to Judah and said, "I did not find her."

35:37 And furthermore, the men of the place said,

35:39 "There has been no Temple Prostitute here."

35:41 Then Judah said, "Let her keep them,

35:44 "otherwise we will become a laughingstock.

35:46 "After all, I sent this young goat,

35:48 "but you did not find her."

35:50 Now it was about three months later

35:51 that Judah was informed,

35:52 your daughter-in-law Tamnar has played the harlot,

35:56 and behold, she is with child by heraldry.

35:59 Then Judah said, "Bring her out and let her be burned."

36:04 It was while she was being brought out

36:06 that she sent to her father-in-law saying,

36:08 "I am with child by the man to whom these things belong."

36:11 And she said, "Please examine and see

36:13 "who's signet ring and cords and staff are these."

36:16 Judah recognized them and said,

36:18 "She is more righteous than I,

36:20 "and as much as I did not give her to my son Sheila,

36:23 "and he did not have relations with her again."

36:26 It came about at the time she was giving birth

36:28 that behold, there were twins in her womb.

36:30 Moreover, it took place while she was giving birth,

36:33 one put out a hand, and the midwife took

36:35 and tied a scarlet thread on his hand,

36:37 saying, "This one came out first."

36:40 But it came about as he drew back his hand

36:42 that behold, his brother came out.

36:44 Then she said, "What a breach you have made for yourself."

36:47 So he was named Perez.

36:50 After his brother came out,

36:52 who had the scarlet thread on his hand,

36:54 he was named Zara.

36:56 - So maybe we don't do put a bow on it.

36:57 We can do tie a scarlet thread.

36:59 Maybe we do tie a scarlet thread, sure.

37:02 They might be a little bit better.

37:04 So interesting story here.

37:07 The burning that Judah was suggesting for Tamar here.

37:11 This was later codified.

37:12 This kind of goes back some of your saying earlier Russ.

37:14 This was later codified into Mosaic Law

37:15 in Leviticus 21-9 in Deuteronomy 22-21.

37:19 But he was a moral for sleeping with a woman

37:22 he thought to be a prostitute.

37:24 And now here he is like ready,

37:26 standing on business to put her to death

37:28 for Emirati, the same kind, right?

37:31 And so I thought that was an interesting twist

37:33 for the story for sure.

37:35 - For sure.

37:35 - The point that usually the sin that you struggle with,

37:40 it looks so, so much worse on somebody else.

37:44 Like whenever you see something that you're disgusted

37:47 with how you act in a situation

37:49 when somebody else acts that same way,

37:52 you don't see it as, oh man, I'm just like that.

37:54 You see that as repulsive.

37:56 And for him to do that, I mean, obviously,

37:59 he's in a bad spot, his wife died.

38:01 He's just kind of going along with the culture.

38:03 Like something I read said that this was pretty common

38:06 that there would be these cult prostitutes.

38:08 So the people in that area, it was their custom

38:12 that the goddess of fertility of the ground

38:16 before any season of planting,

38:18 they would go to the cult prostitute,

38:20 they would reenact this idea of the marriage

38:23 between the land and the goddess,

38:24 which would be sexual in nature.

38:27 And they would do that before they planted

38:29 for hopes of a good harvest.

38:30 So you see him completely, not just the sexual immorality,

38:34 but this really points to the idea.

38:36 He has just completely absorbed himself

38:40 into the culture around him.

38:41 He's still maybe talking about the God of his father,

38:45 but he is living out this lifestyle

38:48 that's very much just taking whatever pieces he can

38:52 from everything around him.

38:54 - Well, as you all were saying that,

38:55 I was curious, like, I know for me

38:57 with a five-year-old and three-year-old boy,

38:59 when I see my worst qualities come out of them,

39:03 I'm like, oh boy, oh boy.

39:05 Because there's no, like,

39:07 there's not gonna be an investigation

39:08 into how they got that, right?

39:10 It's like they either saw me do it

39:11 or it's just in there the same way it was in me.

39:14 - And do you find yourself being more heavy

39:15 in the discipline on things that you're scared of them

39:19 having traits like you in the certain area?

39:21 I know I do, like, there have been times

39:23 that I've overreacted to something

39:26 because in my mind, I've played out where it goes.

39:28 So I'm reacting to five steps ahead

39:31 of where my kids are at that moment

39:33 because I'm thinking about myself where that went.

39:36 - I wanna hear what y'all have to say about this as well,

39:37 but where I come more often than not

39:41 is I will actually be more calm but more stern

39:45 and, like, 'cause a lot of time,

39:48 when I tell the boys to stop, it's like, hey, stop or else.

39:50 Like, you get one shot, right?

39:52 Like, you stop doing that behavior

39:54 and if you don't stop doing behavior, you get punched.

39:56 Like, that's just, it is what it is.

39:58 But when I see something like that,

39:59 that either comes from some sort of a sin nature,

40:01 some sort of brokenness, some sort of something

40:03 they saw Dad do, so they think it's okay

40:05 to mimic the same behavior,

40:07 that's whenever I'm just kind of like, hey, buddy.

40:10 Sometimes there's an apology that needs to happen.

40:11 Hey, I know you said that because you heard Dad say that

40:14 at one point, but that was actually pretty mean.

40:17 Dad shouldn't have done that.

40:18 Dad's sorry.

40:19 Dad should definitely not have done that around you.

40:22 And I'm just so sorry and I just asked for your forgiveness.

40:24 And so I'm kind of practicing with them

40:26 on repentance and all that.

40:27 So that's typically where I go.

40:29 But the freak out is happening internally.

40:31 Like, oh, no, it's me.

40:33 Like, and I don't want that, right?

40:35 'Cause you know your worst qualities.

40:36 - Yeah. - What about for you all?

40:37 - Yeah, I mean, for me, it's similar.

40:39 It's more like a, my heart just sinks, you know what I mean?

40:42 Like, when I see them going down a path,

40:44 it's like things that I've struggled with, let's say,

40:46 over the years that I don't like about myself,

40:50 is that it's just like, oh, no.

40:51 I mean, exactly like you're saying.

40:52 So, you know, feeling, I think I probably take a little bit

40:55 more time on the discipline on those things

40:57 because I'm like, I'm telling them like,

40:59 listen, you're on a bad path.

41:01 I mean, my oldest are 15 and 13.

41:03 So I'm thinking particularly of them

41:04 'cause I can talk to them differently

41:05 than a five-year-old, right?

41:07 So, you know, if I'm like, listen,

41:09 I know where this ends up, you know,

41:12 10 years from now or five years from now

41:13 or whatever it is that you're struggling with.

41:15 So, or that you're doing that I'm watching you do.

41:17 So it probably helps me to slow down

41:19 and certainly turn inward like immediately.

41:22 - Well, and Adam, you got a house full of girls.

41:23 - I don't know what that, but you still see

41:25 some back qualities, right?

41:26 - Yeah, I mean, I do, they're younger.

41:28 So, you know, I don't feel like I've gotten into that

41:31 that time where I'm gonna start dealing

41:32 with some of those issues and the things,

41:34 those kinds of things are gonna come up.

41:35 But Kyle, I feel the same.

41:37 I'm pretty strict in my house.

41:39 And when I say something goes like,

41:42 or doesn't go, like I expect them to follow it,

41:44 but there have been plenty of times

41:46 where things have happened and I have flown off the handlebars

41:49 and freaked out immediately.

41:50 And there have been many times where I felt like

41:52 I've had to go back and apologize and say,

41:54 look, that was more than it needed to be,

41:57 get down on their level, explain to them like,

41:59 dad's an idiot, sorry.

42:00 That was more than it needed to be

42:02 and bring it back a little bit.

42:04 - There was one time literally, I wish I had it

42:06 so I could post like online.

42:08 I literally screamed at my boys and I said,

42:10 we don't scream in this house.

42:12 Like I'm, because I've had two vocal cord surgeries.

42:16 I get very frustrated when people can't,

42:18 I hate repeating myself for whatever reason

42:20 and don't you dare start.

42:21 I know we're all of you and especially you.

42:23 I saw it, I saw it.

42:25 I hate repeating myself in, but for the most part,

42:28 when I have to repeat myself,

42:29 it's 'cause somebody couldn't hear me

42:31 'cause I have trouble projecting,

42:32 I have trouble like, I forget what the words are for it.

42:34 - You hate what?

42:35 - I can't, I just can't do this for you, no, no.

42:41 Take it back, say you're sorry, say sorry.

42:45 - I will, I will.

42:47 We just need to move on.

42:48 - I don't think so.

42:49 - We need, we're not putting a bow on this.

42:50 - I need you, you're sorry, I need you, you're sorry.

42:52 - All right, let's just carry on to what we're at.

42:55 - So as I was saying, as I was saying, Mr. Eustace,

42:59 that's one of the things where I will see the behavior

43:02 and I realize it immediately,

43:04 that I did the super over the top thing

43:07 that I'm mad at them for,

43:08 because I will scream to get their attention

43:11 and I can't really scream either.

43:13 Like I can elevate my voice more,

43:15 but I try to talk at a normal voice to protect my voice

43:17 'cause I don't want a third vocal cord surgery,

43:19 you know what I mean?

43:20 And so I allow all the frustration to keep me

43:23 from realizing the words that are coming out of my face.

43:26 And so that, that's not common,

43:28 but that has certainly happened to where it's like,

43:30 that's a special level of idiot, I think.

43:33 Got something to say about that, call myself an idiot,

43:34 too, you're trying to double down?

43:35 Is that what's happening to us?

43:36 - No, I'm really sorry for where that went, so.

43:41 - All right, well, you can have your dinner after all.

43:44 Well, another thing that was interesting here is,

43:46 I was kind of confused by verse 26,

43:49 she is more righteous than I, right?

43:51 Like I didn't know if that was like,

43:52 oh my gosh, like she got me, like she's more righteous,

43:55 but this was an interesting note

43:56 from the MacArthur commentary.

43:58 This was not an accolade for her moral character and faith,

44:03 but a commendation by Judah

44:05 for her attention to inheritance rights of her family line

44:09 and his shameful neglect thereof.

44:11 - For sure.

44:12 - So it wasn't like a backhanded compliment,

44:13 but it wasn't like a slobbering praise either.

44:16 I took it as like a light bulb moment for him,

44:18 is what I think it was.

44:19 I think he's living in with the Canaanites,

44:22 he's taken a Canaanite wife, two of his sons are dead.

44:25 He's now slept with a harlot who happens to be

44:27 his daughter-in-law, oh boy.

44:29 And it finally is now clear to him that good gosh,

44:34 this girl's more righteous than even I am.

44:38 - Right, yeah, I think he, I mean,

44:39 when he sent her away, right,

44:41 to go back to her dad's house, he kind of wrote her off.

44:44 Like he wasn't planning on, which I think it's funny,

44:47 we're calling him Sheila.

44:48 Pretty sure his name isn't Sheila.

44:49 - Is Sheila, Sheila's my mom's name.

44:51 So you can't put that part of my ears up here.

44:54 - But just as long as he changed it every time.

44:56 - The Bible app actually said Sheila.

44:58 - Oh good, I'll take it.

44:59 - So I read something else that the guy said Sheila

45:01 and he was like, I'm just, it's kind of like Joe Dirt

45:03 where he was like, Joe Dare today.

45:05 He was like, I'm just fancying it up.

45:07 It's really Sheila, but nobody wants to be called Sheila

45:09 if they're a dude.

45:10 - He had a really good point and we just couldn't get off.

45:12 Hey, you started the Sheila narrative, okay?

45:14 - You were trying to get one over on Adam.

45:16 - Well, I just think he's, you know, when she set him up,

45:19 obviously, and when she brings this to light,

45:21 like he's not just thinking about,

45:23 oh, I had sex with her and I shouldn't have.

45:26 He's thinking about all the other stuff he did wrong.

45:28 I think, right?

45:29 I mean, it's like, he married a Canaanite woman.

45:31 He brought his sons, or he put his sons

45:34 with a Canaanite woman.

45:36 He abdicated his responsibility and sent her back to,

45:38 you know, her father's house.

45:39 That was his job to find her next husband, right?

45:43 So I think that he's going through all this right now

45:45 and he actually admits that.

45:47 He's like, let's take that and add some positivity to it

45:50 because we've got Judah and he's made all of these mistakes

45:53 and now he's been broken down

45:55 and now he's at the point where she's more righteous than I.

45:58 Did any of y'all studies go to Perez and his lineage

46:02 and who he is?

46:03 - Go ahead.

46:04 - Okay, Matthew 1-3.

46:05 This is where we start talking about the lineage of Jesus.

46:08 Well, guess where it comes from?

46:09 It comes from Judah.

46:11 It comes from this sexual relationship

46:13 that he had with Tamar.

46:15 Tamar's son, Perez, is named in the lineage of Jesus.

46:18 Not only that, Tamar is named in the lineage of Jesus.

46:21 She's one of five women who are named.

46:24 Not only that, she's the first woman whose name.

46:26 So if you go read in Matthew 1,

46:28 it's a long two or three paragraph section

46:31 about the lineage of Jesus.

46:32 She's the first one mentioned

46:34 and then it just was the son of, was the son of,

46:36 was the son of, and then the following women

46:38 were Rahab, Ruth, Bathsheba, and Mary.

46:41 Goodness.

46:42 So I took that and it's like,

46:43 sometimes I feel like a piece of crap, right?

46:45 And I'm not worthy of doing any of this.

46:49 Why am I sitting at this table?

46:50 Why do I try to share the gospel?

46:51 Who am I?

46:52 You know, the Moses thing.

46:53 You know, Moses is the one who said,

46:55 "I'm not the right person to lead these people."

46:58 Well, guess what?

47:00 Jesus came from somebody who the mother was a harlot

47:06 and slept with Judah and, you know, sin, sin, sin, sin,

47:10 we can still be used.

47:12 It could still make its way back to God's plan.

47:15 Yeah, Judah and Tamar,

47:16 that was a prostitution slash incest, technically.

47:21 So that's in the line of, of Jesus.

47:23 And then outside Mary, she's the Canaanite.

47:25 Canaanite, go back to David.

47:27 He is a murderer and some would call him a rapist

47:30 because whenever Bathsheba was brought to his chambers,

47:32 that wasn't like a, "Hey, you can choose here."

47:36 And so when people say like, "David was a rapist,"

47:38 it's like, "Okay, I understand that argument."

47:39 So Bathsheba is somewhere between

47:41 an innocent bystander that was raped

47:43 or someone that was a little bit Jezebelian

47:45 or something in between.

47:47 Like, did she know that King David could see her

47:49 from that?

47:50 We were only left to speculate.

47:51 And then, I mean, you go back, you got Ruth, you got Boaz.

47:54 Like, and this is all in that same line.

47:55 And so yeah, you're right.

47:56 I think about that every single time.

47:58 I'm like, there are whores and murderers

48:01 that are in the line of Jesus.

48:02 And so this idea that we were to approach the Bible

48:05 and look for all the squeaky clean people,

48:07 it's like, there's a reason you only find one.

48:08 - Yeah, right.

48:09 - Yep.

48:10 - Well, any other thoughts on Genesis 38

48:12 before we wrap this up?

48:13 You all wanna guess the top 100 movies

48:16 of internet movie database?

48:17 Or are we putting a scarlet thread on that too?

48:20 We're wrapping that up.

48:21 You got anything else to say?

48:22 Anything else to say Russ?

48:23 - No. - No?

48:24 You good? - Yep.

48:26 - Don't worry guys, we're friends.

48:26 It's okay, I've known them longer than anybody at the stable.

48:28 But guys, we're gonna leave it there.

48:29 Come back here next week

48:30 where we're gonna dig into Genesis 39, right?

48:34 - Genesis 39. - No, no, no.

48:36 Wait, we're supposed to do 39 now.

48:38 We got time, we got 13 minutes.

48:41 - We're good to go.

48:42 - Guys, that's not, it's not like my notes are wrong.

48:45 So I didn't read them right.

48:46 So hey Russ, we're actually not done with this episode.

48:49 I was like, man, we just could not stretch this one out.

48:51 It's because I planned it that way.

48:53 We're just gonna read Genesis 39 right here.

48:56 So just go ahead and read the whole thing.

48:58 - All right, now Joseph and brought down to Egypt

49:03 and Potiphar an officer of Pharaoh,

49:05 the captain of the guard in Egyptian,

49:07 had bought him from the Islamites

49:09 who had brought him down there.

49:11 The Lord was with Joseph and he became a successful man

49:14 and he was in the house of the Egyptian master.

49:17 His master saw the Lord was with him

49:19 and the Lord caused all that he did to succeed in his hands.

49:22 So Joseph found favor in the sight and attended him

49:26 and he made him overseer of his house

49:27 and put him in charge of all that he had.

49:30 From the time that he had made him overseer in his house

49:33 and overall that he had,

49:34 the Lord blessed the Egyptians house for Joseph's sake.

49:37 The blessing of the Lord was all on,

49:40 was on all that he had in house and filled.

49:43 So he left all that he had in Joseph's charge

49:46 and because of him, he had no concern about anything

49:48 but the food he ate.

49:50 Now Joseph was a Hanselman, form and appearance.

49:53 And after a time, his master's wife,

49:55 cast her eyes on Joseph and said, lie with me,

49:57 but he refused and said to his master's wife.

50:00 Behold, because of me, my master has no concern

50:03 about anything in the house and he has put everything

50:07 that he has in my charge.

50:09 He is not greater in this house than I,

50:12 nor has he kept back anything from me except you

50:15 because you are his wife.

50:16 How then can I do this great wickedness and sin against God?

50:20 And as she spoke to Joseph day after day,

50:26 he would not listen to her, to lie beside her

50:30 or to be with her.

50:31 But one day, when he went into the house to do his work,

50:34 none of the men of the house was there in the house.

50:37 She, cause for a page flip,

50:41 caught him by his garment, saying lie with me,

50:43 but he left his garment in her hand and fled

50:46 and got out of the house.

50:47 And as soon as she saw that he had left his garment

50:49 in her hand and had fled out of the house,

50:51 she called to the men of her household and said to them,

50:54 see he has brought among us a Hebrew to laugh at us.

50:57 He came in to lie with me and I cried out with a loud voice.

51:00 And as soon as he heard that I lift up my voice

51:02 and cried out, he left his garment beside me and fled

51:06 and got out of the house.

51:07 Then she laid up his garment by her

51:09 until his master came home.

51:11 And she told him the same story saying the Hebrew servant

51:14 whom you have brought among us came into me to laugh at me.

51:17 But as soon as I lifted up my voice and cried,

51:19 he left his garment beside me and fled out of the house.

51:22 As soon as his master heard the words

51:24 that his wife had spoken to him,

51:26 this is the way your servant treated me.

51:29 His anger was kindled.

51:30 And Joseph's master took him and put him into the prison,

51:33 the place where the king's prisoners were confined.

51:35 And he was there in prison, but the Lord was with Joseph

51:38 and showed him steadfast love

51:40 and gave him favor in the side of the keeper of the prison.

51:42 And the keeper of the prison put Joseph

51:44 in charge of all the prisoners who were in the prison.

51:46 Whatever was done there, he was the one who did it.

51:49 The keeper of the prison paid no attention

51:51 to anything that was in Joseph's charge

51:53 because the Lord was with him.

51:54 And whatever he did, the Lord made it succeed.

51:57 - Let's talk about the obvious connection here.

52:01 Eve, Sarai, Tamar, this chick, women are the problem.

52:05 - Yes, four times in a row.

52:09 You add all that up, think about all the problems

52:11 that we episode.

52:12 - Yeah, we don't even say anything else, right?

52:14 The 5% of women that listen to the show are furious right now,

52:17 but all the guys know, they know what's up.

52:18 - You're gonna get like two emails from the women.

52:21 - Yeah, one that's gonna be one from your house.

52:22 - Yep, two them, five photos already vibrating.

52:25 - Even Potiphar, if he knew,

52:26 if he thought Joseph was guilty,

52:28 he wouldn't have just thrown him to prison.

52:30 He knew his wife was crazy.

52:31 - Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

52:33 - He would have killed him if he was guilty.

52:34 - So I read something about that that said

52:36 that the obvious solution here,

52:38 especially being that he was at Hebrew,

52:41 would have been immediate death.

52:43 And so like whenever it says that he became angry,

52:46 it doesn't say to who or what,

52:49 but there is an implication that he put him

52:52 not only in a prison,

52:53 this kind of white collar prison type situation.

52:55 - Yeah, like a personal prison, yeah.

52:57 - Yeah, so I mean like it does imply

53:00 that he had some knowledge of this lady is not the best,

53:03 it's dude's been really good to me.

53:05 I have to do what I have to do,

53:07 but I'm not gonna kill him.

53:08 - It's like make her happy by doing this,

53:11 but I mean she had to have known too,

53:12 'cause Pharaoh 100% had to have put people to death,

53:15 right, send his people to death during his reign.

53:17 Like there's no way to be Pharaoh in this age

53:19 without doing something like that.

53:21 But the overwhelming thing in this entire section here

53:24 is the Lord was with Joseph, the Lord was with Joseph.

53:26 We just see that at the beginning and at the end,

53:29 there was one note, I forgot to write the commentary down,

53:31 so I won't be able to give him credit unfortunately,

53:33 but God was with him, but he didn't speak to him.

53:36 He didn't speak to Joseph in the same way that he spoke

53:38 to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, right?

53:40 But he was with him nonetheless.

53:42 And so like as Joseph is being sold into slavery

53:46 and as Joseph is falsely imprisoned

53:48 and as we continue the narrative of Joseph as we go,

53:50 we're gonna see like, hey, there's a bunch of stuff

53:52 that happens to this dude.

53:54 And like, again, you don't put yourself in the Bible,

53:56 the Bible's not about you,

53:58 but if you've ever had anything unjust happen to you,

54:01 like you probably don't react in the same way

54:03 that Joseph did and have the faith that he did,

54:05 because we're gonna get into the guy

54:07 that was released from prison that he helped with his dream.

54:09 And the dude forgot about Joseph for two years.

54:13 And so again, you talk about, that's a line, right?

54:16 But it was two years he was sitting there like,

54:18 okay, I wonder if today's the day that he's gonna remind

54:19 Pharaoh that I'm down here and that Pharaoh actually likes me.

54:21 - Joseph is steadfastness.

54:24 I mean, he is the epitome of it even when you go back

54:26 to the dreams whenever he had the dreams

54:28 and he told his brothers and they got so mad.

54:31 You know, we kinda joked around about some people think

54:34 that he's arrogant in telling those dreams.

54:36 I, for one, think he's just one of these people

54:38 that is just so steadfast and straightforward about things.

54:42 He doesn't know any other way to be.

54:44 He is just straightforward and steadfast.

54:46 And we see it happen again.

54:48 One really interesting thing here is we see this idea

54:53 that the garment, again, is what is torn from him

54:58 and used as the accusation of what he was doing

55:03 where he was at, those kind of things.

55:06 And so it's very strange that in each situation,

55:09 he ends up with a garment.

55:11 There's gotta be some uniqueness to this garment as well.

55:13 The fact that like this is his garment.

55:15 This, you know, this, you know, is his

55:18 and that she presents it to her husband again.

55:20 - And he gave him the garment.

55:22 - I don't know if y'all have any thoughts on that.

55:23 - Well, who gave him the garment?

55:24 Pharaoh did.

55:25 - Right.

55:26 - And she takes it back to him to where it's like,

55:27 "Hey, I lavished this upon you.

55:28 If it was purple, like the amount of money

55:31 it would have taken to get the thread together

55:34 to make something in the royal color

55:36 would have been substantial."

55:37 - Yeah, right, right.

55:38 - You know, something about that I got from this,

55:40 what's one of the tenets of Indata of life?

55:42 It's to forge physical, mental, and spiritual resilience.

55:45 But physical resilience, right?

55:46 We don't run away from things very often, right?

55:48 We're not designed to run away.

55:50 We're gonna face it.

55:51 But what does Joseph do here?

55:53 When it's sexual immorality, freaking run,

55:56 get the heck out.

55:58 First Corinthians 6, 18,

55:59 flee from sexual reality, get out, go away.

56:03 You cannot be around it.

56:04 And it's, you know, I'm sure there's obviously guys listening

56:07 that are struggling with adultery

56:08 or struggling with pornography.

56:09 We've talked about this on the podcast several times.

56:12 Get the freak away from it.

56:14 - I just don't understand.

56:16 'Cause I say this basically every time I speak

56:17 in front of a group of people,

56:19 it's like, I don't know if, you know,

56:21 church camps ruined it, or like,

56:23 if Reggie tells me that I have no idea,

56:25 but it's like, why do we think that sins

56:27 are all in the same category?

56:28 So like in a binary, is this sin?

56:30 Yes or no, yes, they are in the same category.

56:34 But the Bible literally puts sexual sin

56:35 in a completely different category.

56:37 Think about the ways to get out of a marriage.

56:40 It's abandonment, adultery, and death.

56:43 It's a short list, you know what I mean?

56:45 And people don't really understand like the gravity.

56:47 And so they wanna play with fire.

56:49 They wanna just, you know, it's not only fans.

56:52 Like it's just, you know, the for me page on TikTok

56:55 or whatever, it's just showing me boob after boob after boob.

56:58 - It's like the guy in Proverbs that says, you know,

57:00 I saw a young man that was wandering the streets at dusk.

57:04 You know, it's the guys that kind of put themselves

57:07 in the wrong position at the wrong time.

57:09 And then they're like, oh, why did I fall into this?

57:11 You know, but you were there.

57:14 You set yourself up.

57:16 What I do think too, to point out that he didn't do

57:20 was he didn't work a workaround.

57:22 Like it would have been very easy for him to be like,

57:24 listen, she wants me to lie with her.

57:26 I won't do that.

57:27 But she's really powerful.

57:29 She's my boss's wife.

57:30 I need to figure out some way to manage this situation.

57:33 'Cause she even said at one point on verse 10, it says,

57:37 "And she spoke to him day after day.

57:39 And he would not listen to lie beside her,

57:42 which is obviously sleep with her, or to be with her."

57:45 Like that she was kind of giving him some options

57:47 to just like, be with me, spend some time with me, you know,

57:50 stick around.

57:52 And he kept saying, no, where a lot of guys would say,

57:54 you know, well, let's just go to lunch or let's do this.

57:59 Like, let's figure out a way to work this friendship.

58:02 And then they find themselves in a position

58:03 they never meant to be in.

58:05 But really, I mean, really, you, we all know.

58:08 To carry that on, what Kyle said earlier,

58:10 both verse two and verse 21, say the Lord was with Joseph.

58:14 So are we gonna say that Joseph was super powerful

58:16 or amazing or he was chivalrous

58:18 or did anything to, like it wasn't himself?

58:21 It's because he, the Lord was with him.

58:23 And so it's the same thing.

58:24 I equate that to this table,

58:26 the guys that were with spending time with each other.

58:29 'Cause I can't do this on my own.

58:31 You know, I might not be as noble on my own, I guess,

58:36 without all of you guys keeping me accountable.

58:38 Like that's important, or being in the scripture,

58:40 being in the Word.

58:41 Obviously when there's times when I'm not,

58:42 I'm not going to be as good as I could be or should be.

58:45 - Well, it's partially just laying your yes down.

58:47 And so 'cause we see again in verse 23,

58:49 because the Lord was with him.

58:50 And so it's like, you could be in the presence

58:52 of the Lord and still choose.

58:53 Well, no, no, no, how calm this belief.

58:55 But, you know, everybody else, it's just like,

58:57 hey, you can be in the presence of the Lord

58:58 and still choose this.

58:59 So like, you know, how Adam chose violence

59:01 and went full misogynist a second ago.

59:03 Let's just kind of, let's double tap that.

59:05 Let's double tap that before we get out of here.

59:06 So let's talk about this Jezebelian woman.

59:09 This was out of a commentary how she tries

59:11 to maximize her case in front of her husband.

59:13 Her husband, you know, she blamed her husband

59:16 for Joseph even being there.

59:17 Like you have a Hebrew in our presence.

59:18 So it's like, hey, this is your fault.

59:20 So that's a nice one.

59:21 And then the second is talks about him being on Egyptian

59:24 and that exploited the racial tensions

59:26 that were going on at that time.

59:29 And then claims that Joseph's transgression

59:31 is not just against her, but against the entire house,

59:33 against the entire kingdom, right?

59:34 And so it's like, it's not just bad.

59:36 It's the worst thing it could possibly be.

59:37 And of course, she's lying the entire time.

59:39 - Well, you gotta think that there are people

59:40 that he went above in his position

59:45 that did not feel like he should be there.

59:46 'Cause they, especially this Hebrew guy,

59:49 later on we see that even whenever he is the second

59:52 in command overall of Egypt,

59:54 he still couldn't eat with the Egyptians.

59:56 You know, that'll come up later.

59:57 So these Egyptians, definitely she's trying to play

1:00:00 into this idea that there's been talk.

1:00:02 He's a Hebrew, we can't trust him.

1:00:04 And she plays it perfectly.

1:00:05 It would be great to know like, what was it about him?

1:00:08 Like gave Potter for the feeling

1:00:10 that this guy is different than everybody else.

1:00:12 It says the Lord is with him, but gosh,

1:00:14 I wanna know what that's like.

1:00:15 I would love to see what that really meant.

1:00:18 How did he come to the conclusion

1:00:20 that this guy is better than all these other guys

1:00:22 that I've known my entire life.

1:00:23 - I thought you were gonna say

1:00:24 I wonder what made him so attractive to this woman.

1:00:27 I was like, he's clearly red-headed, right?

1:00:29 Red-headed, definitely-- - My son would do the whole,

1:00:31 what is this, were they like?

1:00:33 - The five o'clock shadow beard?

1:00:34 - No, where they, the kids nowadays do this weird deal

1:00:38 where they do some face still on the jaw.

1:00:40 - Hey, your kids are playing like summer ball.

1:00:42 What is it?

1:00:43 - Hey, it basically means that you're chiseled

1:00:45 or something like that.

1:00:46 That's what they do, this little jaw line deal.

1:00:49 My son doesn't all the time.

1:00:51 Like he walks out of the room and we're like,

1:00:53 "Hey man, you look nice today."

1:00:54 He's like, "Yeah."

1:00:56 - How old is he?

1:00:57 - 12.

1:00:58 - Oh my gosh.

1:00:59 This is about the time where it's okay.

1:01:00 Where the cops will just look the other way

1:01:01 while you're beating them up.

1:01:02 I'm just saying.

1:01:02 You gotta get that in line right now,

1:01:04 but sorry we went off on the IMDB train

1:01:06 because I was sitting there the whole time,

1:01:07 like how are we gonna make Genesis 38 gonna last an hour?

1:01:10 Well, if you read your own notes,

1:01:11 it doesn't have to work out that way,

1:01:12 but we are gonna actually leave this discussion there.

1:01:15 But come back here next week,

1:01:16 we're gonna do something a little bit different.

1:01:17 We're doing Genesis 40 through, so 40 verse one,

1:01:21 verse 41, 36.

1:01:23 Okay, so Genesis 40 verse one through 41, 36.

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