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THE FORGING TABLE | Genesis 26 (Ep. 751)

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THE FORGING TABLE | Genesis 26 (Ep. 751)
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In this episode, we dive into Genesis 26, exploring Isaac's journey through famine, deceit, and God's unwavering promises. Despite his failures, God remains faithful, blessing Isaac abundantly and reminding him of his covenant. It's a powerful reminder that our struggles don't define us, but God's grace does.
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0:50 This is Undaunted Life a Man's Podcast.
0:54 I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
0:56 Let's get into it.
1:00 Wow, I failed, I have one job.
1:01 You know, Atlanta, just leave all that in, leave the club in there.
1:05 You had one job, Sam.
1:06 I don't understand what it is about this thing.
1:09 Is this the most complicated thing on the planet Earth?
1:12 I'm old for you.
1:13 I mean, you got a Wharton grad, and here's an Olympian right here and they still can't
1:18 figure it out.
1:19 No, I get it.
1:20 All you gotta do is tap it in the blue guys.
1:21 That's what this is in the middle of the table.
1:23 It's not a hockey puck.
1:24 What in the world, Sam?
1:25 He grabbed it earlier and it switched to 99.
1:28 It's kind of like, it's kind of like a jujitsu move.
1:31 You got to double tap it when you're when you're ready, you can't say it, but double
1:34 same.
1:35 Can you do my intro?
1:36 Okay.
1:37 Here we go.
1:38 Welcome back to the forging table.
1:39 The mission of Undaunted Light.
1:42 Undaunted Light.
1:43 What is this?
1:44 The light version of Undaunted like beta.
1:46 Okay.
1:47 Here we go.
1:48 Welcome back to Undaunted Life.
1:49 The forging table.
1:50 The mission of Undaunted Life is equipment men to push back darkness with content that
1:53 forges, spiritual, mental and physical resilience at the forging table.
1:56 You'll see a group of regular guys forging spiritual resilience by digging into God's
1:59 Word and we're welcoming all of you to come along on that journey with us.
2:01 We got OG Ryan in the house.
2:02 We also got Howard Wicker-Sham and we got Sam Hayes-Winkle.
2:05 So Sam, this is your second trip.
2:06 Howard, is this your second trip as well?
2:07 I think this is my third.
2:09 Third.
2:10 Okay.
2:11 So we got a sophomore journey over here with Sam.
2:12 But first, before we get too far into this episode, Ryan, what's your essence right now?
2:17 What's your essence?
2:18 We did an update.
2:19 I was wearing original Santah this morning at church.
2:22 All Santah.
2:23 Okay.
2:24 Very good.
2:25 But today, right now I'm wearing biking.
2:26 Right.
2:27 Okay.
2:28 I like that a lot.
2:29 But you know what I like even better?
2:30 It's a good choice.
2:31 As I was getting ready for the forging table.
2:32 So, you know, a church this morning, come home, do some lunch and I'm getting ready.
2:35 I'm going through my drawer in the bathroom and wouldn't you know it?
2:40 I found the last clone that I ever wore.
2:43 Is that cool water?
2:44 Which this is Davidoff Coolwater-Lubik's podcast.
2:47 I wore that when I was six.
2:50 This shut up.
2:52 I had this bottle.
2:53 Okay.
2:54 So, this bottle has not been used.
2:57 I've been in this house for I think eight years and I don't know that I use it in the
3:00 house before this and so.
3:02 But I just because it's been a while since you told us the proper way to put on and look
3:06 how much is left in here.
3:07 It's a little travel one.
3:08 There's just enough to get me through your description about to put on clone.
3:12 So, I'm going to push the mic away here and you are going to and I'm just going to do
3:16 what you tell me to do with this within recent damage.
3:18 All right.
3:19 So, here we go.
3:20 All right.
3:21 Spray twice on your spray once on your right shoulder.
3:26 Left shoulder.
3:27 Hold on.
3:28 There.
3:29 Left shoulder.
3:30 Okay.
3:31 And then your back neck.
3:32 And then spray twice on your left wrist.
3:35 That's a lot of cologne.
3:36 Yeah.
3:37 Almost.
3:38 And then just tap that together and then rub it on your chair on your neck.
3:44 There you go.
3:45 Man, Kyle, this is the best you've ever smelled.
3:46 This is better than the smelling salts.
3:48 Yeah.
3:49 How's my essence, guys?
3:50 I recognize it.
3:51 I recognize it.
3:52 I recognize it.
3:53 You recognize my essence.
3:54 Man, I haven't smelled cool water since elementary school, man.
3:56 It's kind of weird.
3:57 Boom.
3:58 Hit it.
3:59 You can just lean across the table, Howard, if you want to get it.
4:00 Get all on this.
4:01 Oh, God.
4:02 It's so strong.
4:04 It's very strong.
4:05 They don't make it like they used to.
4:06 No, I guess not.
4:07 But I mean, that bottle couldn't be like they used to.
4:10 That bottle is probably for 13 years old.
4:12 Wait, does it change?
4:14 Is it like a wine?
4:15 I don't know.
4:16 Does it change in the thing?
4:17 Does it get better?
4:18 Does it get better with time?
4:19 Yeah.
4:20 I think I'd rather have the smelling salts than smelling like this.
4:23 I smell like Macy's.
4:24 This is a problem.
4:25 Why are you hating on this?
4:26 Oh, I haven't smelled that since elementary school.
4:28 Is it just like...
4:29 No, because...
4:30 No.
4:31 I like cool water.
4:32 Is this what poor people wear?
4:33 Is that what you're saying?
4:34 It's not what poor people wear.
4:35 No.
4:36 Is this like the ant's body spray of cool water?
4:37 I'm just saying that...
4:38 No, that's like...
4:39 No.
4:40 No.
4:41 Cool water is just really old.
4:42 It's just not really one that you really smell around anymore.
4:45 There's some more updated ones like spice bomb or Chanel blue, stuff like that.
4:51 So I just haven't smelled cool water since elementary school.
4:54 Honestly, it's just an older cologne.
4:55 It's not a bad cologne.
4:56 It's just old.
4:57 Well, I know for the first time in forging table history, there are competing essences
5:01 on the...
5:02 On the room.
5:03 On this side of the table.
5:04 It smells bad.
5:05 Kyle, you beat me.
5:06 You smell so much better than I do.
5:07 I don't like what I smell like right now because I never smell.
5:10 I always just smell like me.
5:11 I just smell like my own musk.
5:13 But you know what?
5:14 I do got to say, right from the beginning, Sam, guys, the folks out there in YouTube land
5:19 and on...
5:20 Oh, everyone listen to this, Sam for the second time on this show is saving our bacon because
5:25 we had a last minute issues when I lost a family member and so Sam, you were my first
5:33 phone call and I was like, "Brother, we need you.
5:36 You got like three days and I think we're hitting on this batch.
5:39 We're hitting like six chapters of Genesis."
5:41 And we had to adjust the time and move it around a little bit and it was good to go.
5:44 And so I was just going to come on here and say, "Hey, how thankful we are for you and
5:49 how good it was."
5:50 But the problem was you opened your trap, okay?
5:53 Yes.
5:54 And in the new group text that I set up for this group for today, this was you, okay?
5:58 I said, "Hey, we had to change some time to accommodate.
6:01 Thank you so much, Sam.
6:02 Really appreciative of Flexibility, blah, blah, blah."
6:04 You decide to say this.
6:05 Let's go.
6:06 We got all the bases covered here.
6:08 All guy, short guy, bald guy, and the ugly redhead guy.
6:13 Nailed it.
6:14 Sounds like an all-star cast.
6:16 Well, here's the thing.
6:17 We got stinky ugly.
6:18 You just...
6:19 You describe Howard just as tall.
6:22 You describe yourself just as short.
6:24 You do him just as bald so everybody gets one thing about them, but you give me two things.
6:30 Ugly redhead guy.
6:32 So when you think Kyle, when you think like, "Oh, Kyle just pops into your head, those
6:36 are the first two things that we go to."
6:40 There's not even a story behind that.
6:41 You just literally think I'm an ugly redheaded guy?
6:44 Sam.
6:45 Well, I have some mothers and I...
6:47 It's a lot of...
6:48 You feel like you're playing with house money right now because you're like, "I am saving
6:51 Kyle's butt by being the fourth guy on the 14th table so I can be a guy."
6:54 I can.
6:55 That's rude.
6:56 He's like, "You're putting me through this.
6:57 I'm going to throw something at you."
6:59 Yes.
7:00 I don't really appreciate that very much.
7:01 I thought it was a compliment.
7:03 Ugly guy is usually tougher, which part of it was a compliment.
7:07 Ugly guy and redhead, unless you don't find that.
7:11 Well, no.
7:12 See, you don't find redheaded people on the track.
7:14 We are a walking recessive gene.
7:16 Basically every recessive trait is in me at all times.
7:19 Sure.
7:20 No one's like super...
7:21 Maybe a little short.
7:22 Well, sure.
7:23 Why in the world do you think we always have to put the huge goony people there right there
7:26 in that corner?
7:27 You and Jake Winkler, you'll never sit in another seat because it's y'all sat right
7:31 here.
7:32 No one will be able to see me.
7:33 I have expected him to be here.
7:34 Jake's a tree.
7:35 See me.
7:36 Just hide Sam in the corner.
7:37 But Sam in the corner.
7:38 Hey, I think that might be...
7:39 Nobody put Sam in the corner.
7:40 Thank you.
7:41 Is this the biggest height discrepancy in the history of that side of the table?
7:46 Probably.
7:47 Yeah.
7:48 Okay.
7:49 Howard, how tall are you?
7:50 Six, six.
7:51 Six, six.
7:52 Sam.
7:53 Seven, two.
7:54 Shut up.
7:55 How tall are you, Sam?
7:56 Tell us.
7:57 Everyone say five, five, five, five.
7:58 So when they...
7:59 So five, he's five, three.
8:00 Very cold, they can switch to you could do like your doctor's over Zoom, which is crazy
8:05 to be.
8:06 Yeah.
8:07 But they'd be like, how tall are you?
8:08 I'm like, six foot.
8:09 Sam.
8:10 Sam.
8:11 Every time.
8:12 The ladies would be like, okay, six foot.
8:13 That's like my weight on my driver's license.
8:15 Yes.
8:16 I loved it.
8:17 So there's literally a foot difference in height between the two of you.
8:20 Well, when we came in, I gave him the bro hug, you know, and...
8:23 And he like brushed up against your belly button.
8:25 Yeah.
8:26 I'm by the motor button.
8:29 Wow.
8:30 The amount of smell is essence.
8:32 Yeah.
8:33 What is essence like?
8:34 How are we having essence on our body?
8:36 Is there anything that we...
8:37 No essence today.
8:38 It's gone.
8:39 It's got weird.
8:40 Just today.
8:41 What does Lady Wickersham like to smell?
8:42 Aquadigio.
8:43 Aquadigio.
8:44 Yeah.
8:45 See, Sam, do you wear any column?
8:46 Is anyone...
8:47 No.
8:48 No.
8:49 That's like once a month, I'll put that on, but that's rare.
8:51 What date night?
8:52 Yeah.
8:53 No, he just does that.
8:54 I'm doing four kids.
8:55 There's not too many date nights right now.
8:56 I mean, it's important though.
8:58 It is.
8:59 I'm going to, you know, people on the internet, like if you don't go on dates, things don't
9:02 go well.
9:03 No.
9:04 Can we plan it?
9:05 You just have to rearrange it sometimes.
9:06 So what's a good date in the Wickersham household?
9:09 You and Lady Wickersham are going to do something?
9:11 Give us an idea.
9:12 What do you all like to do?
9:13 We'll go to town, go to dinner, go shopping, you know, home depot, you know, go to town.
9:17 You have no time.
9:18 Maybe when you live.
9:19 Yeah.
9:20 Don't go to town.
9:21 Go to town.
9:22 But you don't live far from me.
9:23 Yeah.
9:24 What are you talking about?
9:25 I'm going to get through.
9:26 So I'm 20 minutes from...
9:27 It gets in this wagon.
9:28 Go to the trading depot, like get some pemma can.
9:31 No.
9:32 I mean, we'll go downtown and go to Oklahoma City, you know, get some rot candy.
9:36 We'll go to a concert once in a while.
9:38 I took her to a Michael Boo Blake concert.
9:40 Oh.
9:41 That was pretty good.
9:42 Fancy.
9:43 I was about to say, what kind of concert?
9:44 Because I do know that Lady Wickersham knows about the Wu tank.
9:47 She knows about the Wu tank.
9:48 She will throw out the Wu tank.
9:49 She will throw out the Wu if she needs to protect your neck.
9:51 That's what I'm just saying.
9:52 When you're around, Lady Wickersham is protecting your neck.
9:54 She's got the vibes on music way more than I do.
9:57 I won a couple's night and she started playing genuine.
10:00 Oh.
10:01 When we did the face painting?
10:03 Yeah.
10:04 Yeah.
10:05 We had some good...
10:06 Jeep the DJ in our house.
10:07 Yeah.
10:08 So it is kind of interesting because we're doing this thing, which I was really not looking
10:11 forward to, but it's where you paint your partner, right?
10:14 Not actually their body or whatever their face, but you each have a canvas and you've
10:18 got paint in front of you and you have to paint what you see in the other person or whatever
10:21 you have to do your best.
10:22 And the funny thing about it is no one's really an artist.
10:24 And so it doesn't exactly get you close by, but one of the most enjoyable parts was whenever
10:30 your wife took over the Bluetooth speaker.
10:32 And I was just like, because she's the most sourdough, like very woman, like the person
10:37 that's like her persona, and it was like what I would have listened to in high school.
10:41 And I'm just kind of like, where did this come from?
10:44 And she's just saying all the lyrics to everything and I was like, "Lady Wickersham, what are
10:49 the odds?"
10:50 She likes the party.
10:51 Yeah.
10:52 She does like the party a little bit.
10:53 There was a little bit of investigation.
10:55 Do we need to get into the scripture?
10:56 Do we need to get in?
10:57 Should we save the investigation and what you were telling you about for it?
11:00 Yeah, yeah.
11:01 Let's talk about that next week.
11:02 Okay.
11:03 We'll talk about it next week.
11:04 Let's go ahead and get into Genesis 26.
11:05 So I know throughout Genesis, we've been doing, you know, one chapter here and then sometimes
11:08 we'll, you know, double or even triple up the chapters.
11:10 We're just hitting Genesis 26 today.
11:13 So Mr. Wickersham, let's kick off Genesis 26 with the first five verses.
11:17 Okay.
11:18 Now there was a famine in the land beside the former famine that was in the days of Abraham.
11:23 "And Isaac went to Garah to Abimah like the king of the Philistines, and the Lord appeared
11:28 to him and said, 'Do not go down to Egypt, dwell in the land of which I shall tell you,
11:36 sojourn in this land, and I will be with you, and will bless you.
11:40 For to you and to your offspring I will give all of these lands, and I will establish the
11:47 oath that I swore to Abraham, your father.
11:50 I will multiply your offspring as the stars of the heavens, and will give to your offspring
11:56 all these lands, and in your offspring all the nations of the earth shall be blessed,
12:02 because Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statues, and
12:07 my laws."
12:09 So right here we get into a discussion about, so there's a famine in the land, we see this,
12:16 and there's a lot of things that are going on right now for Isaac that really go back
12:21 to what we saw with Abraham.
12:23 So there is a famine, there's issues with the Philistines, but really just going back
12:27 to verse one, this exposed Isaac and his family to danger.
12:31 So whenever they're going through this area, going to Garah to Abimah like the king of
12:36 the Philistines, they were being open to danger here, but they still had the protection and
12:40 cover of God.
12:41 So let's just chat about these first five verses here, whatever you guys got.
12:45 Well, I put kind of the two same things down, but the similarities between him and Abraham,
12:52 and we'll get into more as we read down through there, but again, the first one was the promises
12:57 of God, similar to Isaac to Abraham is when he promises that he will be with him.
13:04 He has all those similar promises that Abraham had, so those are the first things that came
13:09 to me.
13:10 He's like testing his faith and the fact that he says with this famine is God going to provide,
13:18 having to head down south, some place I've never been before, and God I think is trying
13:23 to draw out obedience from him as well.
13:26 But he also reassures him and he reassures him by giving the same promise that he gave
13:30 his father.
13:31 Yeah, I think the father part is what I like, I hope the generational blessings, I hope
13:42 my son is blessed because of what I do, and his son is blessed because of what I do.
13:47 And I know I feel very much blessed because of the way my dad lived, and I get to hear
13:52 it all the time on the wrestling side.
13:56 You come up to me all the time like man, your dad, and it's crazy because I get to hear
14:01 like he was a great wrestler, but way more.
14:04 I hear like man, your dad led me to the Lord, and he was such a good soul, a good person,
14:09 and he's touched so many lives that, oh, and he was a great wrestler.
14:13 Which to me is a blessing, and I really hope and pray that's like what happens with me,
14:19 my son, that he hears a lot more about man, your dad really touched my life and helped
14:24 me lead me to the Lord way more than I hope the wrestling side, and I really want the
14:30 wrestling side.
14:31 Well, Sam, I actually do want to go into that a little bit deeper just because you do have
14:35 a unique background.
14:37 You were on the Olympic team, you went as part of the Greco wrestling team.
14:41 But typically when you see these great wrestlers, because a few months ago there was the nationals
14:46 and all that, typically dad was a wrestler, right?
14:49 And a lot of times dad was a wrestling coach.
14:52 You just see that with these great wrestlers as dad was a wrestling coach.
14:55 And so try to give people an understanding of like, okay, what levels did your dad coach
15:00 at?
15:01 Kind of like his range, because I mean, being an Olympic wrestler is such a rare feat.
15:08 And when your son can reach that level, you don't normally see this deep long progeny
15:14 of wrestlers.
15:15 So like there's, like when's the last time there was a wrestler that won the national
15:19 tournament and their father was also a national champion.
15:21 Like not very many.
15:22 Yeah.
15:23 I can't think of any off top of my head, but kind of give us a sense of what that looks
15:25 like because I think this is really important because Isaac is getting the oath and he's
15:28 continuing this blessing from Abraham, but I think goes right in line with what you're
15:33 saying.
15:34 Yeah.
15:35 It doesn't happen much.
15:36 I know we just had the first American kid that won Worlds, whose dad also won Worlds,
15:43 but his dad wrestled for Russia at the time.
15:44 So does it count?
15:45 Let's count it.
15:46 They're American now, but until that, I mean, my dad and I are the only in wrestling father,
15:54 son Olympians.
15:56 And it's funny because he was way better than I was.
16:01 I'm made an Olympic team and I'm not near the top best athlete in the family, which is
16:06 wild.
16:07 Yeah.
16:08 Yeah.
16:09 I mean, I get to brag on him a little, but two time Olympian, him and his twin brother,
16:14 they made six straight world or Olympic teams.
16:17 My dad was the first to be to Russian at Worlds.
16:20 He was the first one to get a silver medal at Worlds, the best we'd done as bronze.
16:24 He was the first one to win back-to-back medals.
16:27 He got a silver and a bronze.
16:30 And basically him and my uncle got wrestling, Greco wrestling, really going in America.
16:37 And he did a great job of not putting like a shadow, like I never felt like I was in his
16:41 shadow, which I hope I do that with Josh.
16:46 I think I am because he's like, man, Olympian, I don't know any good wrestlers.
16:50 Yeah.
16:51 So I'm like, I'm doing something right, I guess, I think.
16:55 But yeah, it doesn't happen a lot.
16:58 And I felt very blessed.
17:00 And I think the stuff he learned and teaching it to me, growing up in it, I didn't realize
17:07 the advantage it was, you know, looking back now, such a huge advantage.
17:14 And he was my coach all the way through.
17:15 He was my coach, little league, high school, until college.
17:19 College was the first time he wasn't my coach.
17:22 And he was coaching at a Christian college, but I went to you and he really wanted me
17:28 to go there with him.
17:29 That would have been something.
17:30 It would have been.
17:31 It would have been.
17:32 It would have been fun.
17:33 You got to go on your track that you need to go.
17:34 And at some point you do have to separate off from your father.
17:36 But kind of to bring that full circle with your dad.
17:41 What's it like for you as a son with his son, but you have a son yourself.
17:46 When you hear about the legacy of your father, because, you know, a lot of guys, mainly male
17:50 audience, we've talked about our father's a little bit on the forging table over the
17:53 years.
17:54 And you know, some guys, we have fathers that are non believers, fathers that you were
17:57 maybe they loved you, but you had to guess because they never said it.
18:01 And dads that just didn't have like legacy and like, you know, for me personally, like
18:06 I love my dad.
18:07 My dad's my biggest fan.
18:08 I've never had someone else come up to me and say, Hey, your dad had this impact on
18:11 me.
18:12 My dad's more of a wallflower kind of a behind the scenes type of guy.
18:15 So for you, like what does it do for you whenever you hear someone come up to you and they don't
18:19 just talk about, man, your dad really taught me this amazing single leg finish or this,
18:24 this great escape from this particular position.
18:26 I get to hear that too.
18:27 Okay.
18:28 Well, but the impact of having someone that's like, Hey, this guy changed the trajectory
18:31 of my spiritual eternity.
18:33 Like that's pretty incredible.
18:35 Yes, it makes me super, super proud, like a, and at the same time, like, hope and I'm
18:41 on that same track, you know, I really pray and try to surround myself with people that
18:50 will push me to do the same because I do.
18:53 I think that's important, important for my son to see.
18:58 And I strive to do the same because I know what it did mean a lot to me.
19:03 It meant a whole lot to me and set a good example.
19:08 When I think it's important, look at verse five, going back to the text here, because
19:12 Abraham obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes and my laws.
19:18 I tell guys all the time, don't be the do as I say, not as I do dad, right?
19:24 Don't tell your kids to do their homework when you were a crappy student.
19:28 Don't tell your kids, eat your vegetables or eat your meat and work out, but don't take
19:33 care of yourself in fitness.
19:35 But same thing like spiritually, like imagine the only spiritual formation your kids get
19:40 is when you drop them off at kids, or john Sunday, you know, Sunday or something like
19:44 that.
19:45 And that's the only time they see the Bible open is when someone other than their father
19:48 opens it up.
19:49 Like I can't remember who it was.
19:51 I don't know if it came from family shepherds with Vodie Bockham or just some, somewhere
19:54 in our conversations, but it's like, no, no, no.
19:57 I remember, I remember a lot of people different said it, but Zach, Zach Todd of forging table
20:01 fame.
20:02 A guy who also doesn't know how the timer works.
20:06 He was talking about every time he would study the Bible, it's the timer.
20:09 He was doing it on.
20:10 No, it's not the timer.
20:11 The timer is perfect.
20:12 He would study the Bible on a tablet or on his phone.
20:15 And so when his kids would walk by, he's got a young son and a young daughter, they would
20:19 just see dad on a device, right?
20:21 Yeah, dad's working, you know, dad's busy, that type of thing.
20:23 But he was digging into the word of word of God.
20:26 And so he invested in a very nice leather Bible so that whenever he is studying the word,
20:31 his kids actually see him studying it with it open.
20:33 So it's like it's important whenever your kids see you studying the Bible on your own,
20:38 but also you're leading them through Bible study as well.
20:42 They see you, you know, ask the server at lunch, you know, if you can pray for him, they see
20:47 you sharing the gospel with people.
20:49 Because just imagine you going through the parts of the Bible that talk about evangelism
20:52 and sharing your faith and, you know, taking care of the widows and orphans, but every
20:55 opportunity you get to do something like that, you don't take it.
20:58 I always use that term, more is caught than taught.
21:01 Yeah.
21:02 That's what they're going to catch.
21:03 So, but I do have to ask this.
21:05 So you mentioned it.
21:07 Do you eat salad in front of your kids?
21:10 No, I don't want them to pick up bad habits, right?
21:14 I don't want them like, right?
21:16 Do we need to go back into the salad thing?
21:18 I think that this may have been the maddest you've ever been at me was whenever I refuse
21:24 to eat us out.
21:25 That you're your birthday dinner, and you've been mad at me before, right?
21:28 You've been like, you know, getting, you know, you got the red kind of coming up from your
21:31 shirt and sleeves, like coming up and getting mad.
21:33 My face gets really red.
21:34 Right.
21:35 But they were at this like 74 course meal and they bring out this.
21:38 Oh, yeah.
21:39 Yeah.
21:40 Yeah.
21:41 And nothing in that, nothing on that plate was anything that I would put into my mouth
21:43 and then chew it up and swallow it.
21:45 And you just go, Kyle, are you're not going to eat your salad?
21:47 I'm like, Ryan, I don't, I don't eat this.
21:49 And you just kept going and finally you like grab the salad and put it in front of you as
21:53 if I had like a slap in the face and it's like I slapped your mother and you just brought
21:59 it over here and you just, you ate the salad, but you angrily did it like a angry rabbit.
22:04 You were just like, stupid salad.
22:06 He's like this.
22:07 Well, because we had a chef like personally put this menu together for my birthday and
22:15 deserve it to us and he was going to leave it full on the plate like you could at least
22:19 eight half of it.
22:20 He didn't even touch it around so it looked like some of it.
22:25 Are there foods that you don't like?
22:28 There are foods I don't like.
22:29 Yes.
22:30 Okay.
22:31 So if somebody put an entire plate of foods you don't like in front of you, you would
22:34 sit there and just eat it.
22:35 So you didn't like make the chef feel funny?
22:37 I would eat.
22:38 I would eat some of it.
22:39 Yes.
22:40 I would try it and eat it even if I didn't like it.
22:41 Like, I don't like pickles, but I try pickles at least two or three times a year just to see
22:45 if my taste buds change.
22:46 Your taste buds change every single year.
22:48 And so that's where I'm like, and so that's why I'll try things and if I don't like it,
22:52 I don't like it, but I don't leave it just like as it was prepared in front of me and
22:57 just leave it there.
22:58 So they have to come and pick it back up.
23:00 What if I had done the whole method like move it around on the plate, drop some on the floor
23:03 kind of fine?
23:04 If you would have taken three bites.
23:06 I would have been five.
23:07 Three bites of salad.
23:08 Yes.
23:09 That's so many.
23:10 That's not a lot.
23:11 It's so many.
23:12 Like it's got like onions and lettuce.
23:13 That's what Josh says.
23:14 It had like a, it was like a blueberry dressing.
23:19 It was delicious.
23:20 It had, it didn't even have any onions on it.
23:22 It was a cornbread.
23:23 What do you want to call it, crouton?
23:25 I think I hit the crouton.
23:26 I think I hit the croutons.
23:27 No, you did need the croutons.
23:28 I hit the croutons.
23:29 Are you sure?
23:30 Yes.
23:31 You didn't even touch it.
23:32 That's why I was upset.
23:33 You might be right.
23:34 Well, I did touch the plate.
23:35 I think it was as I was showing it over to you.
23:36 You touched it.
23:37 No, you touched it.
23:38 Put it forward.
23:39 Get away.
23:40 Hey, but I did the normal thing like you're supposed to take your fork and turn it upside
23:42 down and turn it down just to let the people know I am done eating this nonsense.
23:46 Right.
23:47 Please take this away from me.
23:48 It's all good.
23:49 I got two salads that night.
23:50 Bro.
23:51 Yeah.
23:52 Is that a thing?
23:53 You're supposed to turn it upside down?
23:54 Yeah.
23:55 Yeah.
23:56 That's like the knife part of the fork.
23:57 Yeah.
23:58 Knife of the fork.
23:59 You put it down on top of it.
24:00 You cross it.
24:01 Right?
24:02 At least he was polite.
24:03 He was polite.
24:04 And I think that was actually a compliment.
24:05 I feel like I can't a compliment.
24:06 Can we just talk about the fact I'm being choked by the smell of myself right now like every
24:09 single word it's like just this aerosol is just like it's taking me back to the 90s.
24:15 I love it.
24:16 Oh my gosh.
24:17 Like I've been daydreaming about her.
24:18 Like I'm like, man, remember back I was in California in the 90s.
24:21 So let's turn on some red hot chili peppers and get after it, I guess.
24:24 Well, I know where we can get back to the Bible.
24:26 Anybody.
24:27 Let's get back to the Bible.
24:28 Okay.
24:29 So we're going to get into this next section of Genesis 26.
24:32 So Sam, if you would go ahead, it's going to be a nice big chunk for you, Sam.
24:36 If any point you want to tag Ryan in, go for it.
24:40 But we're going to go actually, you know what, I'm going to do your favor, Sam.
24:43 You read six through 16, six or 16 and then Ryan, you're going to finish chapter out for
24:48 us.
24:49 Okay.
24:50 Starting at 17 and it's going to be a beautiful.
24:51 It's going to be the best transition ever.
24:52 Ever.
24:53 Ready to go.
24:54 Never anything like it.
24:56 So Isaac settled in your are, we'll go with it like that guy from North Carolina.
25:03 That's right.
25:04 When the men of the place asked him about his wife, he said, she is my sister for he feared
25:09 to say my wife thinking less the men in the place should kill me because of Rebecca, because
25:15 she was attractive in appearance.
25:17 When he had been there a long time, a bimolek King of the Philistines looked out a window
25:22 and saw Isaac laughing with Rebecca, his wife.
25:25 So a bimolek called Isaac and said, behold, she is your wife.
25:29 How then could you say she is my sister?
25:32 Isaac said to him, because I thought less I die because of her.
25:36 A blimolek said, what is this you have done to us?
25:40 One of the people might easily have lane with their wife and you would have brought guilt
25:44 upon us.
25:45 So a blimolek warned all the people saying, whoever touches this man or his wife shall
25:49 surely be put to death.
25:51 And Isaac sold in that land and reaped in the same year, a hundred fold.
25:54 The Lord blessed him and the man became rich and gained more and more until he became very
26:00 wealthy.
26:01 He had possessions of flocks and herds and many servants.
26:05 So that the Philistines envied him.
26:07 Now the Philistines had stopped and filled with earth all the wells that his father's
26:12 servants had dug in the days of Abraham's father.
26:15 And a blimolek said to Isaac, go away from us for you are much mightier than we.
26:20 So Isaac departed from there and he camped in the valley of Garar and settled there.
26:24 And Isaac dug again the wells of water that had been dug in the days of Abraham's father,
26:29 which the Philistines had stopped after the death of Abraham and he gave them the names
26:33 that his father had given them.
26:36 But when Isaac's servants dug in the valley and found their well of spring water, the
26:40 herdsmen of Garar quarreled with Isaac's herdsmen saying, the water is ours.
26:45 So he could, so he called the name of the well, Essex because they contended with him.
26:53 Then they dug another well and they quarreled over that also.
26:59 And so he called it its name Sittna, did I pronounce that correctly?
27:04 I can go for it.
27:05 All right.
27:06 And we, and moved from there and dug another well and they did not quarreled over it.
27:09 So he called its name Rehoboth saying, for now the Lord has made room for us and we shall
27:17 be fruitful in the land.
27:21 From there he went up to Bathsheba and the Lord appeared to him the same night and said,
27:25 I am the God of Abraham, your father, fear not for I am with you and will bless you
27:30 and multiply your offspring from for my servant Abraham's sake.
27:34 So he built an altar there and called upon the name of the Lord and pitched his tent there.
27:39 And there Isaac's servants dug a well.
27:41 What do you mean?
27:42 Hey, we got the first lady in the firstborn of the forging table.
27:48 What's up, James?
27:49 Hey, buddy.
27:50 Hey, you're gonna say something to this mic.
27:52 Yes.
27:53 All right, everybody.
27:55 Hey, what's up?
27:56 Hey, everybody on the camera.
27:58 You see the camera right there has to be cameras.
28:01 All right, sweet baby, James.
28:03 Thank you so much for the tea, buddy.
28:05 Five and thank you to the first lady.
28:07 Hey, James.
28:08 Oh, it's okay.
28:10 Go back.
28:11 Oh, got to give horn five.
28:13 Oh, dude.
28:14 Good one.
28:15 Bring in the heat.
28:16 That's a pretty good one.
28:17 Now, we've got to get some more.
28:21 Bye guys.
28:22 Bye guys.
28:23 I feel like that was worth the pause.
28:24 I was like sitting there, I'm like, what's going on?
28:28 That's what we were talking about.
28:30 We're busy.
28:31 James is going to come up here and make fun of me because I can't read good.
28:34 Yeah, probably.
28:35 All right, let's get back into it.
28:36 All right.
28:37 When Abimelec went from, well, so he built an altar and called upon the name of the Lord
28:42 and he pitched his tent there.
28:43 And there, Isaac's servants dug a well.
28:45 When Abimelec went to him from Gararr with a huzzah, his advisor and fickle.
28:52 Don't, don't, just keep going.
28:56 Just keep going.
28:57 It's not the best.
28:59 Ryan, just keep going, just move past it.
29:04 The command.
29:05 Sorry.
29:06 Sam, your back.
29:07 James.
29:08 I said it.
29:09 I said it.
29:10 Why have you come to me seeing that you hate me and you have sent me away from you?
29:15 They said, we plainly, we see plainly that the Lord has been with you.
29:20 So he said, so he said, let there be a sworn pack between us, between you and us and let
29:25 us make a covenant with you that you will do us no harm just as we have not touched you
29:30 and have done to you nothing but good and have sent you away in peace.
29:35 You are now the, you are now the blessed, blessed of the Lord.
29:40 You are now the blessed of the Lord.
29:43 So he made them a feast and they ate and drank.
29:45 In the morning they rose early to exchange oath, Isaac sent them on their way and they
29:50 departed from him in peace.
29:52 That same day, Isaac servants came and told him about the well and they had, that they
29:57 had dug and said to them, we have found water.
29:59 He called it Shiba.
30:01 Therefore the name of the city is Beer Shiba to this day.
30:04 When Esau was 40 years old, he took Judith, the daughter of Barry, the Hittite to be his
30:10 wife and Basima, the daughter of Elon, the Hittite.
30:15 They had and they had and they made life bitter for Isaac and Rebecca.
30:20 All right.
30:21 Very good.
30:22 So again, I kind of talked about this a little bit earlier, but the parallels with Abraham
30:25 and Isaac famine lying about their marital status.
30:29 I'm like, when I first read this, I thought, Oh crap, I started reading the wrong chapter.
30:34 Like I've read this before.
30:35 Oh, it's a whole new era of stupidity in this exact same area, but prosperity covenant with
30:41 the Philstines, the whole nine yards.
30:42 I just, it just makes me laugh because like, if we go back to 26, just what we read before,
30:50 God basically tells him, I'm going to create a great nation for me.
30:54 So what makes you think that your wife's going to get killed, you know, like you, you lose
30:59 faith and you're, you're not obedient and then you sin.
31:03 And so the other thing I have to wonder about is like, how attractive are these women?
31:06 Dude, I'm saying the same thing.
31:08 I'm not going to be like, I've thought about how, how good looking was best.
31:13 She, but how good looking are these women that everybody else, he's just like, there's
31:17 no way the king's not going to notice.
31:19 Well, Sarai, Sarai was like, what, 60 something years old?
31:23 And it's just like, and then it's like, this dude goes and finds Rebecca and like, Rebecca's
31:27 is like super attractive.
31:28 And then the other thing that got me was like the ambemilex like, Hey, somebody could have
31:32 laid with her.
31:33 Yeah.
31:34 And it's just like, who's what?
31:35 What the heck goes down?
31:36 Yes.
31:37 And the people are like, okay, I'm going to go lay with that one.
31:39 And the people chosen by God, keep getting bailed out by pagan kings.
31:43 Yeah.
31:44 Well, that's what I put on here.
31:45 I'm like, do you think it's a sense of morality or like a fear of like, you know, superstition?
31:50 Yeah.
31:51 Okay.
31:52 Yeah.
31:53 That could be it as well to where it's like, look, dude, because we saw that in previous
31:55 parts of Genesis where it's like, Hey, like, you basically brought cursing into my household.
32:00 And so, you know, get out of here and take some, take some stuff with you, like, go on.
32:04 Yeah. Like they think that's going to bring upon a curse. And so like, don't they have
32:08 like their own marriage type vowels or something like that or how marriage or how courting
32:12 should happen so that there isn't something like that? So it's like, I don't know, I just
32:16 think it's crazy that, you know, it's like, whoa, like, why would they let, like, I'm
32:20 sure that Rebecca would have had to have courted somebody and then his family would have to
32:25 be like, yeah, we're going to give her over to you. But like, I don't know, it just, yeah,
32:31 I just find it really strange.
32:32 And it could be, uh, they're both men in power. And that's how wars start. Yeah, that's true.
32:38 Yeah. Hector and Achilles or whatever that guy's nephew. I should have read about this.
32:42 Yeah, you should have known. What is it? What is this nephew's name? It's a, but not
32:48 blackberries. Uh, you could have went with that. I would have been like, yeah. Yeah. I
32:53 just got, I just got to say what my test is. His name's Mike fecal. Hey, dude, is it
32:58 Fical fecal? Like I don't know. Is that what we're going to be focusing on? Let's just
33:03 I've read that part probably like 30 times, but you didn't read it out loud. And I didn't
33:09 read it out loud. So I didn't make it. I didn't even register. How did you say it? I said
33:14 Fical. I remember it's like here. I'm saying Fical. Well, I hear it. I hear it's a crappy
33:19 city. Correct. You know, it's a real crappy city. You know, dude, I was like, Oh my gosh.
33:25 But when I go to verse eight here, um, you know, I just what I wrote in my notes. And
33:30 so when he had been there a long time, I've been a light king of the Phil scenes looked
33:34 out the window and saw Isaac laughing with his with Rebecca, his wife. And so they weren't
33:38 just giggling like they were obviously laughing and embracing in a way that was, you know,
33:42 very flirtatious on you wouldn't do with your sister. And I mean, maybe if you're in Alabama
33:46 or something, but so shout out to all of our fans in Alabama shots, fired, fired, rolled
33:50 hat. But like, uh, you know, what's done in the dark will be brought to the light. You
33:54 think you're slick. You think you're slick? Like, Oh, yeah, it's my sister. No big deal.
33:57 But then it's just like, bro, you're, you're within, you know, sight, like potential. Well,
34:02 I kind of wondered about that because I looked at several different, um, you know, gosh,
34:06 what do you call it? Several different passengers, like just to see because I was like, well,
34:11 if they're just laughing, different translations, I was like, why would he care that they're
34:15 laughing together? But then you look at another one, they said caressing, so laughing caressing,
34:20 you know, so it was just like, you know, it's like date night. They're going to Michael
34:23 Buble after this, you know, like you're getting after spraying on that cool water. Oh my gosh.
34:27 I think I think one thing we look at, and I read this in a couple of commentaries is
34:32 that a bimolek could have been the same type of pharaoh as Abraham during Abraham's time.
34:39 So he could have got like shafted twice, I guess is what they talked about. Okay. So
34:45 they're because they say that even though a bimolek is a king of the Philistines, he
34:50 still headed, Abraham still headed south. And so they could have used pharaoh at that
34:54 time, just to mean king or something like that. And so a bimolek could have been the
34:59 same king at that time during Abraham. I think it's Patrick close. I think is that
35:03 Patrick Lee's Pat. Yeah. That's Achilles is like a movie that was like his cousin, but
35:08 then in in then Homer's, isn't that his lover? Maybe in Homer's surprise me. Yeah, or I mean,
35:16 we're talking about the Greeks. So well, in a lot of those old armies, they would, they
35:20 would put an older warrior with a younger warrior and they would become lovers. There
35:23 were certain groups of different armies where they were all like gay lovers. Hey, we can't
35:28 play that. It'll get pulled down off of YouTube. So just make sure we can't hear it. What are
35:32 we looking for? I'm looking for the name. Oh, the name of the guy. Yeah, I can find it
35:36 here. I know. There he is. Garrett Hedlen played him. Yeah, Patrick Lee's Patrick Lee's
35:42 Patrick Lewis. Anyway, no one actually cares about that. Okay, good, good, go, go us.
35:48 We did it. We figured it out. I thought some other things if we want to talk about that
35:51 chapter in this chapter is God said he would bless Isaac. And then we he reiterates that
36:00 even after even after what went on about him lying about his wife Rebecca, and then his
36:07 God's faithfulness is still there even through his deceit and the fact that he sowed in the
36:12 land and reap the same hundredfold that his father did.
36:16 And then you kind of goes and it shows the fear of God in the actual what do you want
36:21 to call them? Yeah. The Philistines. So like they're seeing what's going on with him. They're
36:28 seeing his blessings and they're like, then they have a fear of God. I don't know if it's
36:31 like a fear of God that we would have, but they have a fear of like, Hey, this guy's pretty
36:35 powerful. We need to get him out of here. Yeah. And I mean, verse 12, we talk about him reaping
36:39 one hundredfold. This is right after he lied about who his wife was. Yeah, he goes back
36:45 to dad because of dad. Right. Not because of son. He wasn't alive. He wasn't alive to
36:52 see his dad do that. Right. But still, it's just like, I mean, when we go through these
36:57 chapters and we go the last next couple of weeks, there's so much lying in the seat
37:00 that that just goes down where it's just like, you know, people are trying to make things
37:07 that God wants to do happen. And I kind of notice that in our lives is like, Hey, God's
37:12 got a plan, but like, I have my own plan sometimes that it might seem like it's on path with
37:17 his plan, but I'm trying to make things happen. And it's just like, sometimes it's just not
37:21 me. I shouldn't, I should let God actually do the work. If if he's opened the doors,
37:26 I need to walk through them. And I just need to do what I need to do in that time, rather
37:30 than try to make all these other things happen, because that's what he's going to do. And
37:35 that's what we see here is he's like, there's fear and he's like, well, I need to make
37:38 sure my wife is safe. And I have a long lineage of line like God said, so I'm going to do
37:44 this. And it wasn't the right path.
37:46 Well, do we, do we see that? Do you all think that's this is just like a like father, like
37:51 son thing to where he didn't see his dad do the exact same thing? We can't know whether
37:57 or not they talked about that like, Oh, that's one of the family stories when, you know,
38:00 when Paul did this or something like that. Or is this just like a like father like son
38:04 situation to where well, yeah, and you see some sin that carries on generationally,
38:10 which again, people get a little uncomfortable talking about generational sins and all that
38:13 because we all have individual autonomy and all that kind of stuff. But it's like there
38:17 are things passed down genetically that give you a predisposition for some sins over others.
38:22 I just think it's human nature. Yes. Well, and definitely part when you when you do see
38:26 your dad, I know it happens all the time. They watch their dad beat their mom. They hate
38:32 it and then they're beating their wife. It happens all the time. Yeah, abusers typically
38:36 were abused. And even when they hate it, I'll never become a drunk and they're drunk. Oh,
38:41 yeah, just makes you wonder, did Abraham continue to lie? You know what I'm saying? But I just
38:47 think like I think when we when we're in a sense of fear, the human thing for us to do
38:52 is to survive rather than trust. And I think that's what he's lacking here. It's just and
38:58 how how tenured is he yet? Right? Like how much turmoil and how many ups and downs has
39:03 he been through for that trust to be built? Yeah. You know, he just he just was given
39:07 this promise. Yeah. And has it been tested yet? Yes. Well, and he cheated to get the promise.
39:14 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, better keep cheating to get the promises. Well,
39:20 the promise was already going to be given. Yes. Yeah. And his eyes, like, I mean, yeah,
39:26 we're going to go over that in some chapters, but it's just like the promise was already
39:29 given. And we look at we look at we look at man or woman who try to make things happen
39:37 that God says is going to happen. It's like, well, I don't have enough trust to allow God
39:41 to do this. I'm going to make it happen on my own. And then we see them go down a path
39:45 that is not a good path. It's not it's not a it's not a holy path. I want to point out
39:51 it doesn't mean don't do anything either. Oh, no, no, I get that. No, like, that's the
39:56 point there's a fine line there. That's the point though is that the door is open. You
40:00 have to walk through it and you've got to do what you got to do within that door, but
40:02 you can't make things happen. Right. You know, like, you've got to just walk some at some
40:08 point, you have to walk in faith rather than just but you have to walk. That's the point
40:13 like you have to walk, but you have to keep walking and you don't know where the path's
40:17 going to end up, but you have to keep walking. So you are doing something. I keep going back
40:21 to this at times, you know, the more that I read in the Old Testament, it's like when
40:24 we talk about how much we're in the word, right? And how much we go back to the word
40:28 to his promises to the stories where God has been faithful and you take somebody like Jacob.
40:35 What did he go back to the word daily? Was he praying to the Lord? Like, what kind of
40:39 experiences do they have to strengthen their faith on a day in and day out basis? And so,
40:45 you know, like, we can go to the scripture dude around me, 31, be strong and courageous.
40:49 Do not fear being dread of them for it is the Lord your God who goes with you. He will
40:54 he will not leave you or forsake you. Right. Is he did he get that one promise or does
40:59 he keep going back to that one promise he heard from God or is he is he in the word?
41:03 Is he praying on a daily basis? You know, what's strengthening him and his walk? We don't we
41:08 don't we don't get to see that, but there's a scripture. Yeah. It's just like God's coming
41:13 and talking to them. I mean, that's what we saw with Abraham is, you know, he communed
41:17 with God. You know, it is why I think he knows what his dad did. Yeah. Everything in
41:23 here's was passed down verbally by storytelling. So, yes, of course. I think that's that thing
41:29 for us though. It's like we've got we're on the end of this, right? And we get to see
41:34 all of this and we like it's so easy to sit from here and judge Jacob and Isaac. Oh, gosh,
41:40 you guys are just no idiots, right? We can't judge them because like, that's why I say
41:44 it's more human nature than a father or son type thing. It's because we're no different.
41:48 Yeah. And the fact that we we don't have sometimes we lack faith and we lack we lack
41:53 obedience and what that falls through is deceit sometimes. So one thing that I'd like to do
41:59 is we wrap up our discussion of Genesis 26. And sorry, I keep clearing my throat into
42:04 the microphone guys having some vocal core troubles. That's why sweet baby James and
42:08 the first lady who went on to life brought me this lovely tea here. Shout out to field
42:11 craft survival for the awesome cup here. But verse 24. And the Lord appeared to him the
42:18 same night and said, I am the God of Abraham, your father. Fear not, for I am with you and
42:25 will bless you will multiply your offspring for my servant Abraham's sake. So I'm going
42:29 to bless you for your father's sake. Okay. But fear not, we get told several times in
42:35 scripture fear not. I, you know, I would, if I thought about this before and I would
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43:04 But we see fear not fear not fear not fear not throughout scripture. The thing is, is
43:08 because God is terrifying. Angels are terrifying. Why could God not allow Moses to look at him
43:16 and all of his glory? Why? He basically said, all right, you can look at this, my stank
43:20 trail that comes off behind me, right? Between two rocks, because if I show you anything else,
43:25 you'll basically be obliterated, right? And we see an excess that he came down off the
43:28 mountain. He was like glowing didn't even know he was glowing just by looking at, you
43:31 know, the trail behind God, like the backside or whatever. But just this concept of fearing
43:37 God, I don't think we talk about it enough in church. I don't think men's groups or Bible
43:41 studies, we talk about that because you need to have a healthy fear of God. You need to
43:46 have a healthy reverence of God, not like scary, like scary movie or Halloween Friday
43:50 13 stuff like that. But like scary in terms of like, look, this is the creator God of
43:54 the universe that could stamp out my entire, you know, family tree in an instant. And I
43:59 need to put some respect on his name, right? And I just don't feel like we talk about
44:03 that very much. I think that's that's where we don't have that, that honor and respect
44:09 for him to go like, okay, if I don't obey, there's a consequence. We just think we don't
44:13 see the consequences of our sin. Right. Yeah, it's, it's all about the love. Yeah, exactly.
44:19 I don't know. When I was young, we were taught, like, that's the way the father's supposed
44:23 to be in the home to there's that, that healthy fear of dad. You know, he'll, he'll put the
44:30 smack down if he needs to actually want to talk about the missing very much nowadays.
44:33 I think that's a great point. I want to talk about this. This came up in some, some video
44:37 online or something like that. But they basically asked the person like, Hey, when you were
44:41 kid, why didn't you do drugs? Why didn't you drink? Why didn't you do all that? And the
44:46 answer would be because my dad would kill me because my mom would kill me. Now the odds
44:51 of them actually taking your life were not high, but it's, you know, a hyperbolic expression
44:55 to express an idea that I was terrified of my parents, which is my story. I didn't have
45:00 sex as a kid. I didn't get drunk. I didn't do drugs. I've never had weed. I never did
45:04 any of the things that some of my nukla and friends were doing because I was like, if
45:07 I get caught, like my family didn't mess around. It wasn't like, Oh, well, if you do that
45:11 again, we'll take away your car keys for a couple of days. It was like, Oh, your car
45:16 is going to be sold today. You will walk to school from here on out, even though it's
45:20 like 10 miles away, like it doesn't matter. Like it would have been like scorched to earth.
45:24 But if you don't have a healthy respect and fear for your parents, what kind of kid are
45:28 you? Like the worst kids that you know, and that you've seen is because their parents
45:31 are weak and they have spared the rod from their children and they have not given them
45:35 the proper discipline and direction that they need. And it makes sense. They don't have
45:39 a healthy respect or fear for their earthly father. Why in the world would they fear their
45:43 heavenly father? As they should, which as we, we fear them in a, in a reverent point,
45:49 like that God is scary and we should look at him as such, right? He is God is love in
45:54 those things, but he, he is also terrifying in a good way. And he's just, you know, he's
45:58 just because he has to be. Well, he gives grace where he needs. Yeah. Well, he's just
46:03 because he is God, you know, he knows better than we do. Um, I think, though, when I look
46:07 at this, I didn't really think about that fear, not for I am with you. I was, when I read
46:11 that part, I was thinking more of like, um, man, Isaac just got like kicked to the curb
46:16 by the Philistines. Um, you're talking about a good, a big nation with the Philistines
46:21 and I, you know, he's been told to leave. So I bet he's dealing with some sort of stress,
46:27 some sort of worry with what's going on. And like, this is where God comes again and says,
46:32 I am with you. Fear not. Here's my promises for you. And so I feel like he's like easing
46:37 the anxiety of, of Isaac. And like, I actually took this to heart. Um, I've been dealing
46:43 with a lot of anxiety, like the last couple of weeks and stuff. And so, um, and I let
46:48 my anxiety like take me to places I probably should never go and, and, and I feed it and
46:55 we feed our anxiety. And it's just like, when I read this part, it's just like fear, not
46:59 I am with you. Whatever happens, you know, here's my promise to you. And like that's
47:04 something we as Christians have to remember is that, you know, we are going to go through
47:08 trials and tribulations. We talked about that today, um, with what's going on in Christian,
47:13 with Christians overseas. And like you said today, Kyle, we're middle America, Edmond,
47:17 Oklahoma, which is like Camelot, you know, my worst thing is like, you know, someone's
47:22 going to make fun of me for putting a Bible verse on or, or something like that. And the,
47:26 you know, what kind of anxiety are these guys dealing with? They're a nation that's like
47:30 going to be under attack. And so, um, you know, I feel like God's giving him some ease here
47:35 and, and telling him, no, I have a future. I have a plan for you. Kind of like the, the
47:39 Jeremiah 29 11, when the Jews were going through, uh, um, what do you want to call it? The 70
47:46 years of, uh, one brain dead, 70 years, or time. Yeah. Um, when the, when the exile
47:56 exile, yeah. Oh, it was 70 years of exile. I was like the, the most obvious answer.
47:59 Yeah, I was like the answer. Yeah. Because I'm dumb and I can't think that word. I'll
48:03 get my happens. But they're going through exile in Jeremiah 29 11. How many, how many
48:08 times do we hear that verse all the time? You know, I know the plans I have for you says
48:11 the Lord, uh, plans for you to prosper and, and how we take that. And we're like, Oh man,
48:16 you know, we take, you know, I have kind of a charismatic bit of how I grew up. And it's
48:20 like, Oh man, I'm going to have money in the bank and blah, blah, blah, blah. You go and
48:23 look at the actual, uh, verse and what's actually going on at this time. The Jews are giving
48:27 up. The Israelites are giving up. They're like, Oh man, we're in exile. We're under attack.
48:33 Our whole, um, our whole being is now being, you know, ripped to shreds and God's saying,
48:40 and they're wanting to give up. They're like, they don't want to procreate anymore. They
48:43 don't want to work. They just want to sit there and not do anything. They don't want to walk
48:46 into faith that we talked about. And God says, no, get up and do it. I have a plan for you.
48:52 Yeah, this stinks right now because you brought this upon yourself, but you may be in exile,
48:57 but I have a purpose and a plan for you. And like, that's where I feel like Isaac is getting
49:02 the same thing from God right here. There's Psalm 23, the thing about the valley of the
49:05 shadow of death is that God's with you, right? That like, that's, that's kind of the point
49:11 of that Psalm is God is with you in the valley, right? Because we're either in the valley coming
49:16 out of the valley or about to go into the valley. Do you think we fear the things of this world
49:20 more or the fear of the Lord? I would say in general, the things of this world, because
49:25 we are fearful of what we don't have that someone else has envy. We're fearful of our
49:31 future, which is, you know, which is he's promised, which is promised for us. We're fearful of
49:37 struggle. I just got an email right before we started recording from a guy. Actually,
49:42 let me read it. Because I think this is poignant. So this guy, I won't say his name. This was
49:53 it. It's a kind of a scary message to get, but you know, these are just sometimes the
49:58 messages I get. Hey, Kyle, I just started watching your show after hitting a major low
50:02 point in my life. Look, man, I'll be honest. I just don't see a point in things anymore.
50:07 Every day seems like a struggle. Is there any advice you can give me? So inherent in that
50:12 this guy is really up against it. Okay. And we've had, you know, you know, there's been
50:18 some suicide in my foxhole and some different things that have happened. And so this is
50:22 a cry for help. And he's crying out to a podcaster that he just found, right? And basically what
50:28 I sent back to him was brother life is struggle. Like what, what do you expect? Like I'm trying
50:33 to kind of rejigger his brain to be like brother, read your Bible. Like some of the most important
50:38 people that God uses for his purposes had incredibly rough lives. I'm kind of summarizing
50:43 what I responded back to him. I was like, this modern day rainbows and unicorns Christianity,
50:47 like, it's like, bro, that's just not, it's not biblical Christianity. It's foolish to
50:51 believe that. It's like brother, we're called to struggle. And I told him read, you know,
50:57 I said we are called to serve God in our struggle. And guess what? You know, the valley of shadow
51:02 death, you're not alone. God's with you. And I told him read Psalm 23. And then when you're
51:05 done, read it again and then read it again, again, because that like, that's what's guaranteed
51:09 for us. We're guaranteed to have struggle and strife while we're here. But that's not
51:13 the end of the story. Right. And I just, so I feel like we don't, we don't look at it
51:17 that way. We don't have perspective because our circumstances are right in front of our
51:20 face seem dire. Well, guys, as we wrap up Genesis 26 there in the last verse, verses 34 and 35,
51:29 we have Esau, you know, this action here that we see at the end. Esau is, you know, basically
51:35 sealed off from the sacred inheritance. And so we'll get more into some of the things
51:39 going on there. But we're going to go ahead and leave our conversation there. But guys,
51:42 come back here next week where we are going to be digging into Genesis 27. So just Genesis
51:47 27, make sure that you're prepared for next week. And next week, we'll see if Sam can
51:51 do a better job with, with the timer. Okay, you're already ready to, we're not quite done
51:55 yet.
51:56 We got no, we just do, it's just like a one tap and then you like a hold it to reset.
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