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THE FORGING TABLE | Acts 28 (Ep. 700)

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THE FORGING TABLE | Acts 28 (Ep. 700)
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In this episode of The Forging Table, we wrap up our study of Acts with Paul's journey to Malta and his eventual arrival in Rome. We explore the themes of God's justice, the importance of hospitality, and how circumstances can shift perceptions, all while emphasizing the need for resilience in our faith.
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0:50 This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast.
0:54 I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
0:56 Let's get into it.
0:57 Coming back to the forging table, the mission of Undaunted Life is equipping men to push
1:00 back darkness with content that forges spiritual, mental and physical resilience.
1:03 At the forging table, you'll see a group of regular guys forging spiritual resilience
1:06 by digging into God's word and we're welcoming all of you to come along in that journey
1:09 with us.
1:10 That's Ryan.
1:11 That's Howard.
1:12 That's Donnie guys.
1:13 We are wrapping up acts.
1:14 So it's always fun when we get to start a new book of the Bible and it's always fun
1:19 when we get to wrap one up as well.
1:21 And so I don't have like a cool game or any like funny questions here at the beginning.
1:24 I just want to dig right into the text.
1:27 So Howard, how about we start out with you?
1:28 Let's read the first 10 verses of Acts chapter 28.
1:32 This is Paul going to Malta.
1:34 Okay.
1:35 Once safely on shore, they found that the islanders, the island was called Malta.
1:41 The islanders showed us unusual kindness.
1:43 They built a fire and welcomed us all because it was rain and cold.
1:48 Paul gathered a pile of brushwood and as he put it on the fire, a viper dripping out
1:53 by the heat fastened itself on his hand.
1:56 When the islander saw that the snake was hanging from his hand, they said to each other,
2:00 "This man must be a murderer."
2:04 For though he escaped from the sea, the goddess justice has not allowed him to live.
2:09 But Paul shook the snake off into the fire and suffered no ill effects.
2:13 The people expected him to swell up and suddenly die or suddenly fall dead.
2:18 But after waiting a long time and seeing nothing unusual happening to him, they changed their
2:23 minds and said he was a god.
2:25 There was an estate nearby that belonged to the chief official of the island.
2:31 They welcomed us to his home and showed us generous hospitality for three days.
2:36 His father was sick in bed, suffering from fever and dysentery.
2:40 Paul went to see him and after a prayer, placed his hands on him and healed him.
2:45 When this had happened, the rest of the sick on the island came to him and were cured.
2:49 They honored us in many ways and when they were ready to sail, they furnished us with
2:54 supply and all of the supplies we needed.
2:56 So I guess dysentery doesn't just happen on the organ trail, apparently happened back
2:59 in biblical days as well.
3:01 But here we've got Paul.
3:02 I mean, you've been beaten, you've been stoned, you've been shipwrecked, now you're a snake
3:08 bit.
3:09 Okay?
3:10 And so he's at least having to run a bad luck, Satan's working overtime or something like
3:14 that.
3:15 But it was just so funny to me because I was remembered of what earlier in Acts, whenever
3:19 there were certain things that would, that would happen.
3:20 They would like try to treat these guys like God's like, no, no, no, we're not gods.
3:24 Now you have Paul here gets bit by a snake, they're like, you know, this guy must be
3:28 a murderer.
3:29 This is a terrible person.
3:30 And we don't know how long because it doesn't say here in the text.
3:32 But it just means like, in here, I'm like just a few moments later and then it's like
3:36 all of a sudden, this guy's a God because he doesn't die from the snake bite.
3:41 And so anyway, it just struck me as a really funny.
3:43 I think it's funny.
3:44 They're like, this guy has to be a murderer.
3:46 And he was.
3:47 Yeah.
3:48 He wasn't a murderer.
3:49 He was a murderer.
3:50 He was a murderer.
3:51 That's true.
3:52 Yeah.
3:53 But then they thought he was a God by the end of it.
3:54 I bet he, I doubt he was like, no, let me set the record straight.
3:57 I am actually a murderer.
3:58 I've taken out a couple of Christians.
4:00 No, I just think it's kind of crazy to look at like, that's how people view justice.
4:04 They were like, Oh man, he couldn't have done anything too bad.
4:06 He survived that shipwreck, you know, and it's like, Oh wait, one moment later, he gets
4:11 bit by a snake.
4:12 This guy has to have been a murderer, you know, and it's just like, I think that goes to show
4:16 that God's, God's justice is different than what we would have as our justice and that,
4:22 that Paul may have done some bad things in his life.
4:23 And now he was a new creation through Christ.
4:26 And I think that him beginning bit by the Viper and not succumbing to those injuries,
4:31 show what that new creation can do.
4:33 Well, notice you have natives here on an island, you know, probably not really, you
4:38 know, civilized.
4:39 I mean, they were civilized, civilized, but not at the level of maybe Roman.
4:43 And they still understood morality and that they were showing hospitality that that was
4:47 still innate.
4:48 Yeah.
4:49 I mean, that was still an innate, but they still also understood circumstances from being
4:53 bad or evil and that they saw this prisoner that was now getting what he probably deserved
4:59 saved by the wreckage.
5:01 But then hey, you're too bad to get by in the record.
5:04 You're going to die this way.
5:05 But this was innate in terms of knowing that evil deserves bad and being good as hospitality.
5:12 And this is not a Christian, but this is just an innate part of human beings.
5:15 Well, I think that's funny to actually bring that up in the fact that these were prisoners
5:21 off a ship and they still showed hospitality like, yeah, like I watch con air like think
5:26 of like that bus that con air breaking off in your neighborhood with like Cyrus, the virus,
5:30 the first con air reference on the forging table and a ball, you know, and like you like
5:35 open your home to them like, Hey, guys, come on in, you know, your bus broke down will feed
5:39 you will hang out and like, you know, one of them gets bit by a snake.
5:44 So I just think it's just kind of funny that you point out that, you know, that hospitality
5:49 that was there no matter where they were at.
5:52 Right.
5:53 So it's pretty cool.
5:54 Well, and God always points out in scripture, when people that are peggings do show hospitality
5:59 and kindness to Christians, right?
6:01 So I mean, just another great example of that.
6:04 I think the thing I was reading in sprolls commentary was do we show that same pattern
6:08 as Christians?
6:09 Right?
6:10 Peggings do that.
6:11 Do we do that as Christians?
6:12 Do we open our home?
6:13 You know, we're in a society today where we're just so busy with everything going on.
6:16 But do we slow down long enough to open our home, have people into that and go out of
6:21 our way to show extraordinary kindness and look how God responded to those that showed
6:27 hospitality.
6:28 Yeah.
6:29 There's healing there.
6:30 Yeah.
6:31 And Paul was healing people on the island and that was response to how they had treated
6:34 his people.
6:35 Yeah.
6:36 It's also that side of it that says, listen, I bless those that take care of my people.
6:42 Yeah.
6:43 It's kind of a neat principle.
6:44 Yeah.
6:45 What do you say to Abraham?
6:46 I'll bless those who bless you.
6:47 And I think it wasn't just Publius' father, but it was everyone.
6:50 And what that was, was multifever.
6:53 Multifever was a disease that would happen for meeting unpasteurized animals.
6:57 And so it was like a form of bacterial infection.
7:00 But how it worked was you would have all these symptoms for like six months.
7:05 And go away for a couple of days, maybe a week and then they would pop back up again
7:08 for another six months.
7:09 Like you never got rid of it when it's also a potentially great band name, multifever.
7:14 Yeah.
7:15 Come on.
7:16 Yeah.
7:17 Yeah.
7:18 That would make it even better.
7:19 That's right.
7:20 Hey.
7:21 Are you okay?
7:22 You sound like you're got something.
7:23 No man.
7:24 I'm just just singing your music, right?
7:26 Singing my music.
7:27 Yeah.
7:28 You can sing it.
7:29 Well, I think one thing that is important here as well is I guess how easily people are
7:33 swayed by circumstances and they evaluate circumstances like, Oh, dude's a murderer.
7:37 And then circumstances change.
7:38 And then it's like, Oh, this dude's terrible.
7:40 Maybe think of this.
7:41 You all probably heard of this, but maybe some people in the audience haven't, but it's
7:44 this Chinese proverb, which I'll get to, but it's a farmer in his son had a beloved stallion
7:49 who helped the family earn a living.
7:51 One day the horse ran away and their neighbors exclaimed, your horse ran away.
7:54 What terrible luck.
7:55 The farmer replied, maybe so.
7:57 Maybe not.
7:58 We'll see.
7:59 A few days later, the horse returned home leading a few wild mayors back to the farm
8:02 as well.
8:03 If you found it out, your horse has returned and brought several horses with him.
8:06 What great luck.
8:07 The farmer replied, maybe so.
8:09 Maybe not.
8:10 We'll see.
8:11 Later that week, the farmer's son was trying to break one of the mayors and she threw him
8:14 to the ground, breaking his leg.
8:15 The villagers cried.
8:16 Your son broke his leg.
8:17 What terrible luck.
8:18 The farmer replied, maybe so.
8:20 Maybe not.
8:21 We'll see.
8:22 A few weeks later, soldiers from the national army marched through town, recruiting all the
8:25 able-bodied boys for the army.
8:27 They did not take the farmer's son still recovering from his injury.
8:30 One shouted, your boy is spared, what tremendous luck, to which the farmer replied.
8:34 Maybe so.
8:35 Maybe not.
8:36 We'll see.
8:37 This basically says the moral story is, of course, that no event in and of itself can
8:40 be truly judged as good or bad, lucky or unlucky, fortunate or unfortunate, but that only time
8:45 will tell the whole story.
8:47 There are a lot of things that we see in our own circumstances here to where what if Paul
8:51 at any point here after being beaten or being stoned or being shipwrecked or this thing.
8:58 What if he ever started, like, looking internally and was just like, man, got bit by snake.
9:03 This is just my land.
9:04 I'm speaking mainly to myself here because I've had some stuff that's happened even recently
9:08 where it's like, gosh, I'm just in my own head.
9:11 I think I mentioned this a few weeks ago, where if you look at things on paper, things
9:15 are good.
9:16 People are healthy.
9:17 Things are thriving.
9:18 Things are good.
9:19 But then you're just stuck in these super-negative thoughts.
9:23 I feel like the people here are like, oh, the son's broken his leg.
9:26 How terrible does this thing possibly be?
9:28 But you have no idea what's coming on the back end of something like that.
9:31 It's room in day 28.
9:33 We know that all things work together for good now, living that on a daily basis and having
9:38 that attitude affect our emotions and our thoughts is a whole different day.
9:43 Well, all working together for our good, or his good, you know?
9:47 And that's what we have to realize is like, hey, this might be a tough time for me.
9:50 That seems like bad luck, but maybe in the end, it's going to work out for his good.
9:56 And we have to realize that.
9:57 I mean, like to look at Paul, Paul had a lot of brushes with good things and a lot of
10:02 brushes with bad things, but it all worked out into the glory of God.
10:06 In verse 10, where it says, and they also honored us with many marks of respect, MacArthur
10:11 goes into seeing this as the start of the church in Malta, that they established a church
10:16 to honor Paul.
10:18 And I thought that was pretty interesting.
10:19 It doesn't say that, but by honoring him, did that establish a church that you think
10:24 of what the shipwreck led to?
10:26 I mean, how many things do we not know happen in Malta after Paul's long gone?
10:31 Yeah.
10:32 Right.
10:33 Didn't we see?
10:34 I'm trying to remember it was Paul and it was a Paul Barnabas that split way back earlier
10:38 in Acts because it was over Mark, because Mark had quit at some point and then now he's
10:43 wanting to get back in the fray, and they had like a prolonged conflict over this group
10:49 going together.
10:50 He ended up splitting and going their own ways, and the thing was is that the church was able
10:54 to spread so they were able to multiply by dividing.
10:57 You have different things where there was, you know, Saul was persecuting the Christians
11:01 and so they scattered and along the way they were setting up Ekklesias, right?
11:05 And so because of persecution, they were scattering the message of the gospel.
11:10 And so that's why it's always interesting to me when people talk about the problem of
11:14 pain or things like that, where, you know, how could a good God let bad things happen
11:19 to good people like that type of thing.
11:21 It's like when you look at a situation and say the only thing that could possibly come
11:26 from that situation is bad and negativity.
11:28 What you're doing is you're assuming a judgment seat that can see all the different circumstances
11:34 that surround the negative one that you're referring to.
11:37 And I don't ever want to get into a position where I'm assuming that I know better than
11:40 God or know better than anybody else, because that means I have to be able to see how every
11:45 single case interrelates just think about a funeral, right?
11:48 We talked about Zach Foster a few weeks ago.
11:49 There was close to a thousand people at his funeral.
11:53 What if someone's just like, good guy, young, young family, less than one year old daughter,
11:58 bad, all this bad, there's no possible good thing that could happen.
12:03 You're one of a thousand at this funeral and I wasn't even in the room.
12:07 I was, I had pre planned to travel and so I couldn't even be there.
12:10 So you're not only assuming that you can see all the different angles of for every single
12:15 one of the people in this room, but everyone that knew Zach Foster, you're telling me that
12:19 you know that all that is net negative, like, dude, you don't want to be the one that's
12:23 making that call.
12:24 I was in the room or I was at the funeral and I can tell you that the gospel was preached
12:30 and a life touched by Christ was celebrated at that funeral.
12:35 It was probably, and I've been to funerals, it was probably the one of the most beautiful
12:39 funerals I've ever been to that was just filled with the gospel message and knowing Zach Foster.
12:44 That's how Zach Foster would have wanted it.
12:47 And I think it was just a testament to the beauty that Christ did in his life that he
12:53 is able to kind of, you know, through Zach's death, kind of show the beauty of what Christ
13:00 can do.
13:01 So you're right on that, you know, like, we can't look at the bad and think that, you
13:06 know, nothing good is going to come of it.
13:08 Something good is going to happen somewhere.
13:09 It may not be to you, but it could be to somebody else.
13:11 How many, I mean, I've had plenty of examples of things that have gone wrong or I thought
13:16 we've gone wrong, whether it's a delayed flight or okay, or something happened and you just
13:21 man, you're mad, you're angry, you're upset, you're ticked off, whatever.
13:25 And then later, you found out it worked out pretty good in your favor and you're thinking
13:28 you're feeling about that big because you didn't trust God.
13:31 I mean, everyone has got it.
13:33 I mean, I have plenty of examples where we're like, man, why didn't I trust God?
13:37 It went the way it didn't.
13:38 I tried to control it and fix it because it wasn't going the way I'd visited it instead
13:42 of going, okay, God, you're bigger than me, I'm just going to ride this wave.
13:46 We all know that, but it's hard to let go of our own expectations.
13:51 I think that's when we just make it about us, you know, and not about him.
13:56 It's like, man, we put so much, and I think it just shows the idolization of ourselves
13:59 and our selfishness, which is kind of what the gospel goes after.
14:03 It's no longer about me.
14:04 It's about him, and I think that's something that sometimes even as Christians we lose
14:09 track of.
14:10 You don't see it much being about Paul, do you?
14:13 I don't see much being about Paul.
14:14 Even when Paul heals Publius' father, he just says he laid, he prayed, and then putting
14:22 his hands on him healed him.
14:24 Like Paul prayed, you know, Paul's not sitting up here like, oh, there's not one thing in
14:29 the Bible where I've seen Paul be like, hey, you know how many people I just healed?
14:33 Or any of the apostles doing that, but like, I feel like in our culture nowadays, especially
14:38 our Christianity culture in some areas, like, there's this whole kind of pharisaical view
14:44 of healing.
14:45 It's like, well, I've healed all these people.
14:46 Like, I healed this person of their headache, and it's just like, why are we cheapening
14:49 it?
14:50 You know, like, this is something huge.
14:52 This isn't Paul being like, well, I just healed this guy from dysentery or Peter.
14:56 I just raised Dorcas from the dead, you know, or sauce, or sauce, you know, and it's just,
15:03 they don't come back and talk about it.
15:04 And actually it's not even them talking about it, it's people writing about them that are
15:08 talking about it.
15:09 And they always pray.
15:10 They always pray.
15:11 It's coming from God's power, not from their own hand.
15:14 And so like, y'all give me a hard time of being like a cage stage Calvinist.
15:17 So it's like, sometimes you've got to watch out for that cage stage charismatic, you
15:20 know what I'm saying?
15:21 Well, but don't you see that other way around, you know, look what business I built.
15:27 Look at these kids I raised, you know, look at the, you know, the body I created or, you
15:32 know, we'd get caught up in our own world to look at I'm self, you know, I'm self made
15:38 if you will and we get caught up in that and forgetting that God gave us the tools, God
15:42 gave us the wisdom, God gave us the talent, God gave us the ability and we kind of get
15:46 out of the way and understanding he's the painter on the paintbrush.
15:49 And I think that's one thing that we look at too, is like some of these pastors that
15:52 have fallen.
15:53 You know, it's like, it's so sad and it's, it's so hard, like, you know, we've had some
15:58 that fall that, you know, we've really adored and it's just like, man, they're like, you
16:02 know, Ravi Zacharias.
16:03 He's like with his whole, whatever he was dealing with, his whole sinful fetish.
16:08 He was like, well, I deserve this.
16:10 I've done all this for the kingdom.
16:12 I deserve this.
16:13 And it's like, no, you don't.
16:15 You don't.
16:16 Like that's, I think that's what we have to look at is like, we don't deserve it, but
16:20 he gives it to us gracefully on what is right and what is true.
16:24 And so I think when we sit and then we think that we deserve something or something's ours
16:27 or we did it, he didn't.
16:29 He lose track of what it's all about.
16:32 Well, look at the humility of Paul just in this and verse three where he's, he's shipwrecked,
16:37 you know, gone through what he's gone through and he's helping pick up sticks to get the
16:41 fire going.
16:42 Yeah.
16:43 Can you imagine?
16:44 Right.
16:45 He's got a Viper on him and he's just shaking it off his stupid Viper off of me into the
16:49 fire.
16:50 He's like, Oh man, I'm grabbing these sticks like, Hey, yo, you know, so I mean, yeah,
16:54 it's just the humility of Paul.
16:55 I mean, he was a tent maker, you know, he was a tent maker.
16:59 That's what he was.
17:01 And then he became the guy who wrote about a third of the New Testament.
17:04 So go figure.
17:05 But I see some names in this next section that I don't know how to pronounce.
17:08 So Howard, that means you're coming out of the bullpen and I read for 11 through 16 sound
17:13 smart.
17:14 Ready to go after three months, he put us out 11 through 16.
17:20 Okay.
17:21 After three months, we put out to see in the ship that had wondered on the island.
17:24 It was an Alexandria and ship with the figurehead of twin goddesses, caster and Pollack.
17:31 We put it in at Cyrus and stayed there three days from there.
17:35 We say, Oh, we sail and arrived at rig them the next day.
17:42 The South wind came up.
17:43 And on the following day, we reached.
17:46 But solo.
17:47 Sorry on that one there.
17:49 We found some brothers and sisters who invited us to spend a week with them.
17:54 And so we came to Rome, the brothers and sisters there had had heard that we were coming and
17:58 they traveled as far as the forum of a pious and the three taverns to meet us at the site
18:06 of these people.
18:07 Paul, thank God and was encouraged when the when we got to Rome, Paul was allowed to live
18:12 by himself with a guard with a soldier to guard him.
18:16 So basically he was on house arrest, but and so we came to Rome.
18:19 So after all of this time, after all the promises after in the middle of the storm, the angel
18:23 of the Lord telling them, Hey, man, it's all good.
18:26 We need you in Rome.
18:27 You're going to talk to Caesar and that has to take place in Rome, all the things he finally
18:30 makes it to Rome.
18:31 So Rome, my wife and I have been fortunate enough and blessed enough to be able to see
18:36 a lot of cities around the globe.
18:38 So we've been to, you know, Kyoto and we've been to, you know, of course I'm like blanking
18:43 now, but we've been to Florence and Venice and we've been to Athens and we've been to
18:48 Istanbul.
18:49 We've seen some really cool places, but my favorite city in the entire world is Rome.
18:52 I love it.
18:53 It's dirty and dingy, but you can literally go get a gelato and then walk through the
18:58 Roman form and then grab a cigar and then walk around the, you know, the Colosseum.
19:02 And what?
19:03 Ready for Ryan.
19:04 Ready for a fun fact.
19:05 Tell me.
19:06 I was born in Italy.
19:07 Okay.
19:08 Where?
19:09 Like Italy, Tennessee or like Italy, a country of Italy.
19:13 Okay.
19:14 I didn't know.
19:15 I had to make sure.
19:16 Okay.
19:17 We've been friends for so long.
19:18 I don't, I'm surprised.
19:19 I never told you this.
19:20 Why, why, why you've been holding out this whole time?
19:21 Because Rachel gets mad when I say I'm Italian.
19:24 Oh, you're Italian American.
19:26 Okay.
19:27 It's high.
19:28 I'm not even it's my, both my parents are American.
19:30 So do you have, you know, dual, dual citizenship?
19:32 They don't recognize dual citizenship if both of your parents are American.
19:35 Oh, so, but I've been to Rome.
19:38 And so the chance of where I was born is right between Verona, where, uh, Rome, yeah and
19:44 Venice.
19:45 So it's like right there in the middle.
19:47 Funny thing about Verona.
19:48 So Verona is kind of like, uh, because we went to Rome, Florence of Venice, but we went
19:52 to a C.C.
19:53 Verona, Lido, some different places in Verona, there's a statue of, uh, Juliet and it's
20:01 really funny because the left, I think it's the left boob of the statue is shiny and the
20:08 rest of the statue is kind of dull.
20:10 Well, our guide was taking us through there and we walk past this wall and there's this
20:13 wall with all these like names or it's, you know, you're at the house of Romeo and Juliet
20:17 and, you know, you can write your little QT, whatever thing on the wall, but it's tradition
20:22 to go through and like rub her left boob before you leave.
20:27 And so obviously I didn't want to be rude to the local culture.
20:29 So I like felt up this statue, but Mike that's a, that's a cute thing about the right.
20:33 I think it's the left one.
20:34 Cause I remember coming in it to it from this way and she was looking that away and it was
20:38 the near boob.
20:39 She was looking away.
20:40 You pop the field.
20:41 Yes.
20:42 100%.
20:43 Her buddy just rub one boob. You know what?
20:47 We need to get to the bottom of this because like I tell that entire story, but I don't
20:50 know why.
20:51 If they're supposed to rub the left is like, right, something is that bad luck?
20:56 I just, I don't know.
20:57 I took a picture at the amphitheater and Verona and it was me and my dad and then some of
21:04 my friend got ahold of it and like super imposed Angelina Jolie where my dad was like, here
21:08 you go.
21:09 Horn this picture looks better.
21:10 And I was like, Oh man, my dad's all right. So I'm just going to click on the first article.
21:14 So okay.
21:15 There, there it is. There's this statue. That's why you have to rub the left one.
21:18 And so this is from a tradition of touching Juliet's statues, breast for luck now cause
21:25 for rebuke.
21:26 Yeah, man.
21:27 It's 2024.
21:28 Yeah.
21:29 I don't know if I want to read this.
21:30 I don't know what this is.
21:31 But yeah.
21:32 So basically that does.
21:33 Okay.
21:34 A bronze statue of Juliet stands in the courtyard touching her right breast according to lore
21:37 of unknown oranges. Origin is said to bring luck.
21:40 So it's her right boob because she's covering up the left one.
21:43 So you have to feel.
21:44 Yeah.
21:45 That's why I feel.
21:46 I can't get full boobage.
21:47 That's why.
21:48 Why wouldn't you want good luck?
21:49 Like I don't understand.
21:50 But there's a balcony right there where that statue's at. And that's with the balcony of
21:53 the Romeo Romeo.
21:54 Where at that?
21:55 Romeo.
21:56 Yeah.
21:57 So no, I have to say it like Rome was one of my favorite places. I've been to like Saigon.
22:02 Have you all been?
22:03 No.
22:04 I've been to.
22:05 Yeah.
22:06 Love it.
22:07 I mean, it is something to try to like navigate there because you walk through New York City.
22:11 Everything's a gigantic grid. And so, okay, I'm going to go to this and this like Halston
22:15 and Feth or whatever. But when you're there, like even if you've got Google maps out on
22:19 your phone and you're using walking directions, I mean, it is cobblestone streets and there's
22:23 like nothing's a straight line. You're kind of going everywhere. But you know, it's just
22:28 a very interesting city because of the things that you can do. I remember waking up early
22:32 one morning and running circus Maximus. And so it's not it's where they used to do the
22:36 cherry races. Now it just looks like a crappy park with like some busted up, you know, half
22:41 old thing going on. But like back in the day, there would be hundreds of thousands of people
22:45 gathered to watch these cherry races right there. And when you think about it, like you're
22:50 walking through the form and you're like, man, you know, the Caesars walk through here.
22:54 And you know, you go to Paul's history. Yeah, you go to Paul where he was imprisoned because
22:59 at this time he's under house arrest, but he is going to be released and he's going to
23:04 do a couple more years of ministry. And then he's re arrested and goes back to Rome this
23:06 time, you know, not under great circumstances. And so I've been in what is purportedly the,
23:12 the jail cell of the Apostle Paul and it's underground, it's dark, it's dang, it's uncomfortable.
23:18 And it's it's all right there. Like you, you spill out from one part of history and then
23:21 you walk across the street right into another part of history. It's it really is a magical
23:26 city, especially if you have any even tangential interests for your for your trip. Yeah, so
23:31 we had a really cool guide who was a guy from Connecticut that went over for like a, you
23:36 know, a city abroad trip or something like that over to Rome. And he just never left.
23:40 And so this was like five or six years later. And so, you know, American speaks perfect
23:43 English, but then he picks up conversational Italian while he's there. And so the cool
23:48 thing is, is he could speak directly to us in a way that we would 100% understand, but
23:52 he communicated in a way to where the locals knew that he wasn't Italian, but he could
23:56 communicate well enough to kind of get around. But he also knew about things because everyone
24:00 knows about, you know, going to the Vatican and seeing the Sistine Chapel and go into
24:06 the Colseum and the Forum and, you know, all these different places, but we went to some
24:09 off the beaten path places because, you know, for Roman Lord, it's like Romulus and Remus
24:14 kind of, you know, they they suckled from the T of a, of a wolf and these types of things.
24:19 But he when we first got there, the group that I was with, we got there about 12 hours
24:23 before the second half of our college group got there. And so he's like, I want to see
24:27 some cool stuff. It's like, you know, not even in, you know, the books or whatever. So he
24:30 took us to this one place called bone church. And so if you search Rome, bone church, this
24:35 is a particular sect of early Christianity that had a tremendous amount of reverence
24:40 for the dead. And so all of their mosaics on the wall were made with human bones. And
24:45 so like, I'll show you some of these mosaics, mosaic bone church, Rome, amazingly spelled
24:52 all those correctly. But, um, yeah. So you can see in these pictures, like, look, you
24:58 got like this little shrine thing here. And that those are all like skulls. And there's
25:03 like rig rib bones and femurs and stuff like that. And like, that's the, that's the whole
25:08 church is stuff like that. And so that's something that you would not, you know, normally, normally
25:15 see, there's another one you can see like a little gelato have a little cappuccino. Right.
25:23 Check out some bone mosaics. We should call her ABF or yeah, let's change our name. It's
25:26 called a bone mosaic. Actually, just for the guys group, we could quit being mainly men
25:31 of those. It's just be like bone. I don't know. I don't think that will fly since Edmonds
25:36 and swing or down. Yeah, we just established that. I think something a little bit. Yeah,
25:40 we should probably. You know what I love is that when you're walking around Rome and
25:45 you look at the, the sewer, the sewer, uh, what do you want to call them? Ah, little circles.
25:52 Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. The manhole covers and they're like Latin.
25:56 Yeah. Latin with Rome on it. Like, I don't know. I always say it's sport, but yeah. Yeah,
26:01 but Latin for like SPQ or something like that. And I'm like, dude, it was so cool. I was
26:05 like, dude, I left out the all feel right now a bunch of losers over there golf and not
26:09 going over to see wrong. It's going to be going to work. Do you want to? Do you want to see
26:13 Rome some days? I like on the list. Yep. A place you want to go. I think we talked about
26:17 going to Rome and the wives and the next year doing the whole thing. And we stepped us looked
26:25 at the price and I said, you know, I could probably do four or five trips to the Caribbean
26:30 with that one trip to Italy. And we were like, yeah, man, the way to do it though, that's
26:34 the hard part. Do a cruise because I've been to Rome two separate times, but one, we did
26:39 a Mediterranean cruise. And so the cruise left from Chivita Vecchia, which is right outside
26:44 of Rome. And so we flew into Rome a couple of days early. So we walked around and did
26:47 the Rome thing that it was our return trip to Rome. And then we went like Chivita Vecchia.
26:52 And then we went over to Greece. And then we went over to Istanbul for a couple of days,
26:56 which that was at a time. We literally took a picture in between the Hagia Sophia and the
27:01 blue mosque in Istanbul. And like a year later, a terrorist like the bomber like blew up like
27:06 exactly where we were standing. So Turkey's kind of a sketchy place to go, especially
27:10 some of the places we went. These are places we would not go now. But then we came back
27:13 and we did the Amalfi coast, which is unbelievable. And we did some other places I can't really
27:18 remember. But that's the way to do it, because it's like, you're literally traveling as you're
27:23 sleeping and your bags can stay on the ship. And you don't have to worry about where your
27:26 bags are and taking them in a taxi to this hotel. And you obviously look like a tourist.
27:31 A lot of people don't realize how easy it is to do. You don't have to pack luggage everywhere.
27:37 You just go from spot to spot. So but Donnie, to the question you asked your wife or to counseling,
27:43 I need to, I couldn't get my wife to go to Rome. She's like, I don't want to leave the
27:47 kids yet. So how do you get your wife to go to Rome when you have a work opportunity?
27:52 Because that has been we talked about Rome when the kids were gone. Yeah, there you go.
27:57 Well, you could you could do that. But guys, you both literally make thousands of dollars
28:00 a year, both of you. And so it's like, I think you can, you can handle the cost of a trip
28:04 to Rome, right? It's not a cost. You know, it's Danny or daddy, Donnie would rather just
28:08 do like 13 trips to the Caribbean. There's too much sand and sun there. I don't know
28:13 why you don't want to keep going back. There's so much history. Oh, man, Dennis, beautiful.
28:17 We looked, I actually talked to a travel agent two months ago about going into Rome and going
28:22 straight south hitting some water destinations across to what's the island, Sicily. Yeah,
28:30 going to Sicily and then back over and one or two nights, she had drawn up the whole thing
28:34 for us. You should go to Malta. It's just south of Sicily. Malta was one of the places
28:38 that you're looking to be careful around the fire though. I mean, you might like they got
28:42 snake problems, right? They do. I think yeah. What did we call it? The Malta fever, right?
28:48 The Malta fever. Watch out. That's our band. You're the lead singer. All right. Well, Paul
28:52 is in right. Hey, come on, man. That's like demonic, right? Obviously, like those sounds
28:56 are clearly demonic. All right. Last person. Wait, who's red? Howard? No, that's my turn.
29:01 No, no, Donnie hasn't read yet. This one. I thought Donnie started. Did you start, Donnie?
29:05 No, no. Yeah, you're a liar, right? I did. You started because I gave you a big, easy
29:10 stick. Oh, yeah. That's why. Yeah, because I didn't get all the hard names. Yeah, you're
29:13 welcome. You're welcome. 17. Donnie, you are going from 17 through the end of acts. We're
29:19 wrapping up acts right here. Let's go. Last one. After three days, Paul called together
29:23 those who were the leading men of the Jews. And when they came together, he began saying
29:28 to them, brethren, though I had done nothing against our people or the customs of our fathers,
29:33 yet I was delivered as a prisoner from Jerusalem and to the hands of Romans. And when they had
29:38 examined me, they were willing to release me because there was no ground for putting
29:43 me to death. But what the Jews objected, I was forced to appeal to Caesar and that I
29:47 had any accusations against me, my nation, for the reason, therefore, I request to see
29:53 you and to speak with you for I am wearing these chains for the sake of the hope of Israel.
29:58 They said to him, we have neither received letters from Judea concerning you, nor have
30:03 any of our brethren come here and report or spoken anything bad about you. But we desire
30:08 to hear from you what your views are for concerning this sect. It is known to us that
30:14 it is spoken against everywhere. When they had said a day for Paul, they came to him at
30:19 the lodging in large numbers. And he, he was explained to them by the solemnly testifying
30:24 about the kingdom of God and trying to persuade them concerning Jesus from both the law of
30:29 Moses and from the prophets from morning until evening. Some were being persuaded by things
30:34 spoken, but others would not believe. And, and when they did not agree with one another,
30:40 they began leaving after Paul had spoken one parting word. The Holy Spirit rightly spoke
30:45 through Isaiah, the prophet to your father saying, go to the people and say, you will
30:50 keep on hearing, but will not understand, and you will keep on seeing, but will not perceive.
30:56 For the heart of the people has become dull and with their ears, they scarcely hear and
31:01 they have close their eyes. Otherwise, they might see with their eyes and hear with their
31:06 ears and understand with their heart and return. And I would heal them. Therefore, let it be
31:11 known to you that this salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles. They will also
31:16 listen. When he had spoken these words, the Jews departed having a great dispute among
31:21 themselves. And he stayed with, he stayed for two, four years in his own rented quarters
31:26 and was welcoming all who came to him, preaching the kingdom of God and teaching concern the
31:30 Lord Jesus Christ with all openness unhindered.
31:34 And that's it. That's it for Acts 28. And so for some people, it's like, wait a minute,
31:39 what the heck happened to Paul? Like what in the world do we know? So we have from church
31:42 tradition and church history that, you know, Paul stayed these two years. He was released
31:47 in another couple of years of ministry, which I talked about earlier. And then he was re-arrested
31:51 and eventually executed when he was re-arrested. That's when he, you know, was writing Second
31:56 Timothy and certain things like that. And so, you know, there's still a whole lot left
32:01 to Paul's life. And so this, this doesn't exactly wrap it up in a bow. I do want to go
32:05 back to verse 23, where it said, testifying to the kingdom of God and trying to convince
32:12 them about Jesus, both from the law of Moses and from the prophets. And some were convinced
32:18 by what he said and others disbelieved. So one of the things I wanted to point out is
32:22 it said that he was trying to convince them. And so obviously, you know, Ryan, you know,
32:27 we talked about an osmat this point to where it's like, you know, why would someone who's
32:30 a strict Calvinist or a cage stager? Why in the world would they try to convince somebody
32:34 to accept Christ or to use reason based arguments because they're either elect or they're not?
32:38 And that's not exactly the point here. The point is, is that we see that what did Paul
32:42 try to do? He tried to convince people because he did not know of the people he was looking
32:47 at. Who is elect? Who are the people that would choose him as it were if you have more
32:52 of that theological persuasion? And we see right here that we get right into the results
32:57 and some were convinced by what he said, but others disbelieved, go all the way back to
33:02 Jesus. And that's what we see. The Gospels preach, the Gospels proclaimed that the message
33:07 of Jesus is put out there. Some people go along with it and some people don't. It just kind of
33:12 is what it is in ministry. What did Jesus, how did Jesus really teach? What did he use a lot of?
33:18 Parables. Parables. Yeah. And it's not everybody understood the parables. Some people did and
33:22 were fed by them and some people didn't and they weren't fed by them. Like the Holy Spirit opened
33:26 their eyes to that. And so that's the thing is a cage stage Calvinist or a Calvinist or having the
33:32 mind of, you know, God's, God's providence over your salvation is that that doesn't, if I believe
33:39 that, that doesn't give me an out, not to go and do what he's called me to do, which is to preach
33:44 the gospel and that and like, you know, I have people that I talk to on a daily basis who are
33:50 Christians and I will come at a Christian, you know, argument on why they should have salvation
33:54 or if they, they know Christian ease and I have some family member, I have a family member who
33:59 wants to look at all the science. He doesn't really look at the Bible. And so I have to find a way to
34:03 preach the gospel to him in a way that he'll understand it. And hopefully his eyes are open to it.
34:09 That's just my job to do. Now, I can't open his eyes. Only God can, but I may not be the person
34:14 do it. I may be dead and gone and my brother could be like 55, 60 years old and then finally clicks,
34:20 you know, but you know what I'm going to do? I want to do like Paul did last week or two weeks
34:24 ago and I'm going to hope like he hoped for into a, a grip of the second, like whether it's now
34:32 or later, I'm going to hope that at some point your eyes are opened.
34:35 Well, and even saying that, I mean, this, this form of verses from the Old Testament, go to the
34:41 T. Bill and say you will be, you keep on hearing their hearts will become the fold or dull.
34:47 Their ears will be, you know, not able to hear eyes closed. Notice that that exists,
34:53 but that doesn't stop us from speaking the truth and from bringing the gospel. You know,
34:59 we're seeing more of this now than we've ever, ever before in our world today. Eyes are closed.
35:05 You know, ears are not hearing, hearts are dull and yet we're still with call just like Paul
35:10 to continue to preach the word. Well, I think it's interesting if you go to John 1237, he talks
35:17 about willful unbelief and then sovereign blindness. So, you know, they were given the
35:23 opportunity to believe, but they hardened their hearts and then he turned it to where they couldn't
35:28 believe, right? Just like he did to Pharaoh. So I think that's that piece that, you know, he gives
35:33 us the opportunity to respond and a lot of times we don't and he closes the door. Yeah, and I think
35:39 Donnie brought up a good point is that we live in a society now and we live and it's no different
35:44 than the society back then. I mean, we want to go back and look at Paul. Paul, under the time
35:49 was living under Nero and Nero was just as depraved as our society is now today. The Romans were just
35:56 as depraved, but we need to speak truth. And Paul, I think is a great example of speaking truth. He
36:03 spoke truth to Agrippa. He spoke truth to Festus and we need to be able to speak truth, but when he
36:10 did speak that truth, he spoke it in love. He spoke it in a caring manner, a manner in that he actually
36:15 cared for the people he was talking about. He wasn't just trying to win an argument. He really
36:20 cared and he really wanted these people to see what God has done for them through Christ Jesus.
36:25 And I think we see here at the end, verse 31, proclaiming the kingdom of God and teaching about
36:30 the Lord Jesus Christ with all boldness without hindrance. So I mean, we should see that though,
36:35 without hindrance piece, like he's basically able to do his job with the protection of Rome because
36:40 he's under house arrest, but he still has Jewish people that would love to see him dead. And so
36:45 he's being imprisoned and kept safe by by a Roman, right? And so, you know, I kept thinking about the
36:53 First Amendment, at least as it currently stands here in the United States, we're able to say the
36:58 things that we want to say about Jesus, because we have the legal right and ability to do so,
37:02 because the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights recognizes the inalienable rights that all of us
37:07 were not given by government, but they just recognize the rights that we were given by a sovereign
37:11 God that created everything, including us. And so I think that that's important here. And that's
37:15 an interesting way to end the book of Acts, where it's like he is openly preaching this message that
37:20 he has already verbalized that he would give his life for. And he's doing it with boldness,
37:25 not just when it's convenient and without hindrance, which means there was no hindrance to the
37:29 spreading of his message. And we we also see here in the text that he he very likely was working,
37:34 like during these, you know, two years, he maybe he went back to tent making or doing so he was
37:38 doing something other than just just sitting and preaching on pre on street corners.
37:43 Proverbs 28, 20 says a faithful man will bound with blessings. Always a faithful man, he had bound
37:50 with blessings. A lot of what he was blessed with in terms of what Kyle just mentioned was because
37:56 of his faithfulness. He was faithful. God blessed him. And I think that that the scripture is still true
38:02 today when we're faithful. God blesses us. Now, is blessing your shipwrecks and snake bites and
38:10 prison for two years, four years, ten years, whatever, he still blesses us. It may not look like
38:16 blessings that we want materially, but he blessed Paul because he was faithful. He got bit by a
38:21 snake and didn't die. That's right. That's a blessing. Yeah, it's a blessing because he has a cool story
38:25 now. It's like I got bit by a pipe scar. Does he have a scar? Rob, you would think so. I think one
38:31 thing to look at is like, you know, towards the end of acts, this is this is how he leaves us with
38:36 what we're talking about God proclaiming the kingdom of God in teaching about Jesus Christ
38:41 with all boldness and without hindrance. And so we look at 2 Timothy is that his last letter.
38:45 I think I'm pretty sure it's pretty sure it's his last letter. And so 2 Timothy 4,
38:51 I'm going to read verses one through, through eight. I solemnly exhort you in the presence of God
39:01 in Christ Jesus who is to judge the living and the dead and by his appearing in his kingdom,
39:07 preach the word, be ready in seasons in season and out season to correct rebuke and exhort with
39:14 great patience and instruction for the time will come when they will not tolerate sound doctrine.
39:20 But wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance
39:25 with their own desires and they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
39:31 But as for you, you self-restraint in all things and your hardship, do the work of an evangelist,
39:37 fulfill your ministry for I am already being poured out as a drink offering.
39:44 And the time of my departure has come. I have fought the good fight. I have finished the course.
39:50 I have kept the faith in the future. There is reserved for me the crown of righteousness,
39:56 which the Lord, the righteous judge will award to me on that day and not only to me, but also to
40:03 all who have loved his appearing. Isn't that just like an awesome way of like reading the end of Acts
40:10 28 and then seeing what he wrote in his last like he like he talked the talk, he walked the walk,
40:16 he finished the race. And how many times do we not like think about how we can finish the race or
40:21 how we get lazy and don't want to finish the race. I want to use the way I believe in regards to
40:27 salvation of not doing what Christ has asked me to do and be obedient to his words. Like we have
40:33 to have obedience. We have to be able to correct and we have to be able to speak truth and love
40:38 and finish the race. When it's our time, can we say that? Whether that's tomorrow, neither of us
40:46 guaranteed to be here tomorrow or whether it's 20 years from now, can we say that? That's a
40:53 sobering look that I had when we were at Acts funeral. It's like, man, can I say that I've done
40:58 that when they're talking about, man, at the drop of a dime, he'd go to a widow's house and take
41:03 care of something or if you ever, Kyle's talked about it a couple of times that he's always just
41:08 always been there. Drop of a dime, you call him, he's like, I'll be right over. I'll get it taken
41:12 care of. And it's just like, man, where am I going to be? How am I going to finish a race?
41:18 Zach had 38 years of life. And then the last, who knows, in the last five years, he's done more
41:24 for the kingdom than I probably could have done in 39 years of my life right now.
41:29 And the thing for Zach is why was he doing it? He wasn't doing it for social media.
41:34 No. He wasn't doing it for clicks. He wasn't doing it. So the interesting thing is after he died,
41:40 stories began to circulate of Zach Foster stories of that time where at the drop of a
41:45 hat, Zach would do whatever was necessary to take care of somebody else. He would inconvenience
41:51 himself to an extreme degree so that somebody else can be made whole or have their project
41:55 completed or get their timeline back in order. And the thing was is like, it was always a different
42:03 story. And so like he wasn't doing it so that he could brag to somebody else about, oh, yeah,
42:07 whenever I helped out such and such so and so, it was just part of the DNA of who he was as a person.
42:12 And so even if he did some of those things before he became a Christian,
42:16 because we talked about that a little bit, like there were some people that are like,
42:18 hey, I knew him. He was a good dude before he became a Christian too. It's like, even if he
42:22 was doing those things, he would have admitted to you. The reason I'm doing them now is because I
42:27 want to serve the least of these. And so the least of these today might be a widow whose,
42:32 you know, husband just passed away and he always mowed the lawn even into his 80s.
42:35 And now all of a sudden there's nobody to mow the lawn. Well, I'm going to mow that thing until
42:39 there's somebody some other way that we can get that taken care of for this gal. And he was going
42:43 to continue that the guy wanted a large family. He wanted a buttload of kids. He had, you know,
42:47 one daughter that he got to meet here on this side of heaven. And that that's just the thing
42:52 with a guy like that is he ran the race that was set before him. And he did it with a glad heart.
42:59 And he always, you know, spoke the truth and love no matter what. And again, like he was a huge fan
43:04 of undaunted life and supported what we did here. One of our earliest donors and like constantly
43:09 sharing the material with other guys because he, because he knows the drill, he knows that there
43:13 are some guys that he can't just send him our Hitchcock sermon too, because they're going to
43:16 listen to it and they just don't really understand. They don't get the cadence. They don't get like
43:19 where all this is going. But maybe they can send him an episode of the forging table or an interview
43:23 with Vodie Bockum or something like that. And they're going to be like, okay, well, I can get
43:27 down with some of this and this just the way in. And so, you know, making sure that we can be
43:31 more like that and how we operate. Zach Bragg, though. I always heard Zach Bragg.
43:35 Bragg on himself. Yeah, never about that. Jesus. I do. I do talk to you. I think you've said it.
43:42 Like, incessantly talked about Jesus. And I was like, man, I want to have a heart like that.
43:47 I want to incessantly talk about Jesus, not about myself. Absolutely. Well, guys,
43:51 go ahead and go. Are you trying to wrap up? Well, what we got?
43:56 Dude, that 11 22 thing, man. What do you mean? It's awesome. I kind of want it.
44:02 This is awesome. Well, I've already talked about it before on the show. Apparently,
44:04 you're not all caught up on all the shows. But yes, this is a wonderful custom leather made
44:09 thing on my little Yeti cup here that I got from a great 11 22. It's got the 11 22 logo on one side
44:16 and undaunted on the other. Do you think he could do one for me that says the forging table or
44:20 jubby left? I doubt it. Because that's like the dumbest title possibly that anyone can have. Oh,
44:26 maybe that can be on one side on the other side. Be like, this guy is scared of sweaty legs or
44:30 something like that. We can do something like that. You you rapping me in a pretzel? No. Well,
44:35 that's the it gets a little weird when you go back around to have half socks. Half socks. Oh,
44:40 boy. For those of you that were not here a few weeks ago, they don't throw me under the bus.
44:45 We're flip flops. We're wearing thong sandals at the moment. So we don't have any issues. I'm
44:49 wearing thong sandals. Yeah, well, in addition to his rainbow thong these got underneath. But guys,
44:55 anything else on the entire book of acts before we move on man, I love acts. No, boom. Well, guys,
45:02 we have delayed long enough. We need to go ahead and announce what we were doing as the next book
45:07 for the forging table. Let's see what I can do to draw this out. Because I know I mentioned
45:12 Romans a few months ago, I talked about how we might hit Romans. And the thing is, is all roads
45:17 kind of lead to Romans. But the thing is, is it's kind of going to be hard to continue moving on
45:21 without going back to the beginning. And so we're going, shut up, Ryan. I'm in the middle of telling
45:25 everybody what I'm just saying. No, what? What? What? What? Ryan? What? What? I've asked for
45:31 this one for a long time. Okay, you could have said that after I was done, like I was about to
45:35 crescendo. We were almost there. You decided to kind of like, but you're, Hey, anybody else got
45:40 anything to say before I announced the actual couple couple counts, we might. Yeah, there's not a big
45:44 enough couch for the two of us, apparently. But yeah, there he goes. Here, we're going to the book
45:49 of Genesis. Is that okay? We're getting to the book of Genesis. Is that what you wanted?
45:53 Let's just do whatever you want all the time. Okay. Sorry, Kyle Lee. No, but we are doing the
45:58 book of Genesis. It's one of those things that from the beginning, we're like, okay, we don't
46:01 really know what the forging table is going to be. We did the book of Galatians because it's like,
46:04 all right, there's only six of these. So it's a really terrible idea. We can do six of these and
46:08 never do them ever again. But I just remember it's like, man, you get into something like Genesis.
46:12 That's a year. Like that is a year of your life because Genesis kind of breaks down a little bit
46:17 different where, you know, we might spend maybe we'll spend two weeks in one chapter or maybe we'll
46:21 combine some chapters, but guys were digging in. And so I know there's going to be a lot of
46:25 opinions, especially on the first three chapters that Genesis getting into some areas that I swore
46:29 we'd never talk about here on the show. But it's going to be a lot of fun. I'm excited about
46:33 Genesis on OB. Oh, Ryan, are you excited about Genesis? I was. You got a little bit of a little
46:39 pin mark on there. It's just something to remember me by. Not that big a deal. But I'm super excited
46:44 about Genesis. I'm really looking forward to the first four chapters. And there's so many different
46:48 commentaries. And I know all of us have mentioned different ones. We got Sproul and Stod and MacArthur
46:52 and different things. But my goodness, there's been so much ink spilled on Genesis. And I mean,
46:57 just chapters one and three. I mean, we could spend the next year talking just about chapters one
47:03 and three. But you know, we'll do our best to make it interesting for you guys. But we're gonna have
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49:04 I'm your host, Kyle Thompson. Remember, keep pushing back darkness, keep forging spiritual,
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In here, I'm like just a few moments later and then it's like all of a sudden, this guy's a God because he doesn't die from the snake bite.
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We have to realize that. I mean, like to look at Paul, Paul had a lot of brushes with good things and a lot of brushes with bad things, but it all worked out into the glory of God.
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