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Let's get into it.
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Welcome back to the forging table.
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The mission of Undaunted Life is equipping men to push back darkness with content that
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forges spiritual, mental and physical resilience.
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At the forging table, you'll see a group of regular guys forging spiritual resilience
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by digging into God's word and we're welcoming all of you to come along on that journey with
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us.
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That's Dagan.
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That's Ryan.
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That's Jake.
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Guys, do I strike you as a guy that likes silver medals?
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No.
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No.
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No.
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If you ain't first your last funny thing about that quote, as you should mention it, whenever
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he said that until a day good night, you know what everyone in the theater did?
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They laughed because they thought it was a joke.
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You know, the only one who didn't laugh because that's how I think of the world because there
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is first place and then there's a bunch of different levels of loser.
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Okay.
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I remember there was a hockey player back in the day that was excoriated because his hockey
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team had gotten second place in the championship.
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So they're skating by getting their second place medal.
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So here you go.
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This sad guy gets a medal.
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Here you go.
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This sad guy gets a medal.
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This guy gets his medal, takes it off and immediately chucks it into the rafters and
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I was like, I get it.
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That is the appropriate response.
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So I don't like silver medals.
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I don't keep silver medals.
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Like if you get a second place trophy, you're like celebrating to the world that you're like
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the biggest of all the losers because you almost won, but then you didn't.
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So a couple months back, we did trivia here on Don life and man's podcast and what happened
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was is I went to laughgaff.com, the only random quiz generator that I could get.
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And I would get questions like, what is the gross national product of Belize in 1984 and
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Jake would get, you know, how do you spell blue?
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And it's just like, okay.
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And so Jake Winkler got first place and I got second place.
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You sure did.
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And I cannot stand for it.
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So we are doing it again, but I'm going to tell you what we're doing it for.
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Okay.
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So I've got the cards.
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I might shuffle those up and I'll cut them.
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This is what we're going to do because this came up in a discussion the other day and
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I was like, okay, that's an interesting question.
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I think it came in for ask a pastor or for AMA or whatever.
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And so it was, if you had to build out a dinner party and you could only use people from the
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Bible, who would be the four people at your table?
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Okay.
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So as opposed to us just answering that, we're going to do a draft and in order to determine
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draft order, we are going to do trivia.
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We're going to go around in a circle.
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First person to get three, you get number one overall draft pick and then second, third
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and fourth.
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And then we're going to do a Bible draft and everybody gets four guests of Bible characters
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at their table for dinner.
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Okay.
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That's the only fair way I could do it.
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So we're playing highcard right now.
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Everyone that watched on YouTube land, they can just shuffle them up.
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I just cut them.
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So highcard, highcard goes first.
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We got a six of clubs.
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We got a four spades for Winkler.
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We got a joker for Dagen.
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So we're going to switch it to the next card and nine of hearts.
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And I got a Jack.
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So highcard.
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So I go first.
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We'll just go in, um, clock, whatever, clock order, clockwise, there it is.
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We're going to go clockwise.
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And so we're doing laugh, gaff again.
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And the rules are first person to get three questions correct.
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You get that draft pick.
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Okay.
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So you're, you would be first round, you know, first pick and the first round, that type
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of thing.
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So Dagen, just so we can do scouts on or you see, I'm on laughgaff.com.
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I'm hitting generate quiz.
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This is a brand new quiz quiz that I have not seen.
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Let's see if it does it.
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All right.
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Here we go.
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So I got the first question.
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Anybody excited?
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You should be Finway Park is the home stadium of which baseball team.
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I will take this one.
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We'll go ahead and say Boston Red Sox.
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Is that correct?
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Bam.
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All right.
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That's one for daddy.
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It's supposed to be.
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All right.
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No, it's not by.
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Were you here for the last time?
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No, I wasn't.
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Did you listen to it?
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It's just random.
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It's just random things.
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It'll, it'll make more sense about time.
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It gets you.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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You get another one of these.
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Okay.
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God, I wish this is Dagan's turn.
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What fruit is the U.S. state of Georgia famous for?
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Peaches.
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This is a stupid.
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Okay.
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Ryan, here we go.
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Which part of a guitar shares its name with a word meaning to worry?
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Fred.
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Fan.
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Freaking.
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Tastic.
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Here's the thing about last time.
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It took us like 25 minutes to get to the end of this.
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This is how bad we are.
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So Dagan, don't be the first moron at the table.
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So here you go.
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Which 1977 film won seven Oscars, but none for acting?
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Wow.
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Thanks.
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Yeah.
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Jaws.
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Star Wars.
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I was gonna say Star Wars.
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I really was.
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You know, but you didn't.
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So after one revolution, it's one to one to one to absolutely nothing.
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And Dagan, you're so, so, so dumb.
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Okay.
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Here's the first one.
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Oh my gosh.
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Okay.
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What land animal has the highest blood pressure?
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Ryan horn.
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No.
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No, that's not my guess.
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What land animal has the highest blood pressure?
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I mean, I'll say hippo, hippie, he pop anonymous, a giraffe giraffe, yeah, they're all spread
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out.
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That's got to pump the blood all the way up.
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All right.
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Here we go.
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Yeah.
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Take how?
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You just living right.
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All right.
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Well, man, you're, you can at least get this one via guess.
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Okay.
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All right.
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In which two of the gospels of the Bible does the phrase man does not live by bread
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alone appear, which, which two gospels, which two gospel does it not appear?
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Does it appear?
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Okay.
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I'm gonna say Matthew and Luke, Matthew and Luke.
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Winkler takes a command to one to one to one to nothing lead.
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And I hate everything about myself.
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All right, Ryan, please, please stay.
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So he can't, you know, I'm rooting for everybody at this table, except for Winkler, except
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for the Shrek size forging table.
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Okay.
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Here we go.
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Number seven, the number seven question.
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What did blue oyster cult tell us not to fear?
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Don't fear the reaper.
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That's an easy one.
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Don't fear the reaper.
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Come on, baby.
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It is two to two to one to nothing.
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We got to get you on the board.
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Okay.
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And this one's, this one's not bad, who lives in a trash can on Sesame Street?
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Oh, Winkler.
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Oscar.
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Oscar.
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The grouch.
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All right.
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It is two to two with Dagan and horn or with Winkler and horn and Dagan and me bringing
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up the caboose.
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All right.
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Here's my next one.
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What is the most abundant metal on earth?
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Heavy metal.
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No.
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I'm kidding.
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I'm kidding.
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That's not what I take.
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Talk to me like a disappointed father just said, what's the most metal that's most abundant
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iron?
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Aluminum.
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Aluminum aluminum aluminum aluminum aluminum aluminum aluminum aluminum aluminum aluminum
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hang out with Alfred, yeah.
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Go back to last week.
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If you want to hear that ridiculousness, yeah, Bruce Banner would be super proud.
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All right.
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Oh, man.
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Sounds like a layup looks like a layup.
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The story of Samson appears in which book of the Old Testament?
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Oh no.
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You know this one.
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Shut up.
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Shut up.
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Don't give it.
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Don't give any heads.
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Chronicles.
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Grr.
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Judges.
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Bam.
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God.
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You.
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I've got a Bible question.
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You're the worst.
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What?
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How many?
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Everybody misses this one.
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How many animals do Moses put on the art?
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Moses did.
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Oh, he got it.
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Yes.
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Picked it up.
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Winkler still sharp.
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Here we go.
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All right.
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All right.
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All right.
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You can take.
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I'm with this.
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You would get a judge.
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Okay.
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Well, no freaking crap.
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I didn't get to choose.
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All right.
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Here we go.
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What is the capital city of Australia?
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Oh, man.
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No, it's not.
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No.
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Canbera.
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Oh man.
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All of our Australian listeners are so mad at you because they hate Jake Winkler too.
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All right.
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Dagan.
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Bluey.
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Dagan.
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Here we go.
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More bluey.
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All right.
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What continent is the South Pole on Antarctica?
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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That was a barn burner.
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Two to two to one.
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I'm the biggest idiot at the table so far, but there's a long way to go.
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All right.
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Here's my question.
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What is the only country that shares a land border with Singapore?
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Oh, I think I know this.
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A land border with Singapore land border.
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Do they give you pics?
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No.
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Nope.
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It's not multiple choice.
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No, wireless.
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I would be giving you choices.
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Bangladesh, I'm going to say Vietnam, say Papua New Guinea.
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I was going to say Laos.
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We're all dumb.
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It's Malaysia.
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All right.
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So just so everyone.
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All right.
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Winkler, you somehow have made it all the way around and we are back to you.
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This is so stupid.
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How?
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How do you get these questions?
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The Merino is a breed of which animal?
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The Merino?
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The Merino.
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Quarterback.
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Oh, I know it.
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It's a sheep.
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It's a sheep.
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It's a sheep.
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I thought it was a quarterback.
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So Jake Winkler, we'll get the first overall pick.
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How does he get the first overall pick?
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Because he got to three.
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Did you not listen to the instructions either?
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I don't even get a chance.
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No, but you do want the last pick?
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So he, you want the second draft pick, don't you?
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I do.
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So if you get this right, you get second draft pick.
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Okay.
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You with us?
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Okay.
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Here we go.
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Would you compete for the Swailing Cup, Swailing Cup, S-W-A-Y-T-H-L-I-N-G cup, Swailing
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thing cup, Swailing thing cup, rugby curling, table tennis, table tennis, table tennis.
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Oh, this one's super easy.
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Come on, Dagan, Dagan, you're in.
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You got the second overall draft pick or you're going to lose all your street cred.
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What is singer and songwriter Usher's surname?
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Oh, Usher Raymond.
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There it is.
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Usher or Usher Raymond.
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So, Dagan, you have the second overall pick in the, you're coming over to my house for
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Bible dinner draft.
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All right.
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So it's to me, what is the name of Pearl Jim's lead singer?
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Eddie Vetter.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Boom.
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So I got two, but you got a chance right here.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Can we, okay.
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Let's just take a quick vote.
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Better band, Nirvana or Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Nirvana, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Pearl Jam and
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Pearl Jam.
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Okay.
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The only way, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, that's okay.
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The only way to solve this is which lead singer didn't blow their face off.
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Oh, Pearl Jam.
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So Pearl Jam wins the tie, wins the tie.
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I'm just saying, which, which one?
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Rhett's baby.
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Hey, had Kurt Cobain not blown his head off.
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No one would even care about that band.
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No one would even care about that band, most overrated band ever, other than Beatles overrated
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day. The best thing about Nirvana is the Foo Fighters.
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So sorry.
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Yeah.
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That's why they're better than Pearl Jam.
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Yeah.
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That's actually no.
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Thing about any better.
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All right.
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Nirvana part two is Foo Fighters.
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Hey, this is for your chance to get the third overall pick, okay?
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Which airport has the IATA code LHR.
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This actually came up in the last one.
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Yes.
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We, I know that.
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Oh, really?
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Because of the last one.
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Yeah.
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I do listen to the show.
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You can't, what are you?
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Are we phoning a friend?
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You're asking for hints?
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Internet's down.
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I can't text anybody.
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Right.
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So LHR.
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Need an answer.
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He's in hobby.
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Heathrow.
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London, Heathrow.
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London, England.
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All right.
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So I get a chance.
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I get a chance to get what famous singer was born with the name Reginald Dwight.
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Oh, I know this one.
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I do too.
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Yep.
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If you don't know it, let me answer it.
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That's not how the game works.
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Do you not need or pay attention at all?
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Like literally at all?
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No, you don't get to steal.
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Thanks.
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Thank you.
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Reginald Dwight.
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You said thanks rocket man.
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So is it the guy that sings that or are you throwing me off?
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I'll just go with it.
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Elton John.
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It is.
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Elton John.
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I have the third pick.
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Ryan Horn.
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You get the fourth pick.
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I totally.
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Hey.
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Thank you.
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I was going to say like Willie Nelson or something stupid like that.
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Hey, here we'll go ahead and give you one just so you can earn your fourth pick.
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Okay.
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All right.
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In the Shawshank Redemption, who played the old librarian Brooks Halton or Hatlen Brooks
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Hatlen, the actor.
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What's the name of the actor actor?
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I know the old guy.
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He hangs himself.
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What's the name of his bird?
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Twitty Brooks was here.
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Winkler.
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No.
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Jake.
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That's it.
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I don't know.
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It's the name of the actor.
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His name is James Whitmore.
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James Whitmore.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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I did not redeem myself.
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I tried.
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I tried to get Winkler out of here, but it's like, hey, you know, Winkler.
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What's your favorite color is basically the questions that he gets.
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So here we go.
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All right.
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So Winkler with the first pick in the Bible, you're coming over to my house for dinner
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draft.
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You select Jesus.
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Okay.
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Some none of us can select Jesus.
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Yes.
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That's how draft drafts work.
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You don't get to pick the guy that the people just picked before you and then be able to take.
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That's how draft.
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Can you pick the routine plan?
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Only in the racial draft.
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Dagan.
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Dagan, you are up.
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Your pick.
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Paul.
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All right.
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You're taking Paul.
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All right.
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Peter is my pick.
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So Jesus, Paul and Peter are now off the table.
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Ryan is your pick.
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Here we go.
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David.
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David, that is a fantastic pick in the fourth round or in the fourth pick in the first round.
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David fell all the way down there, not a snake draft.
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So Jake, we're going right back to you.
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Your second pick Moses, he's got Jesus and Moses.
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This is working out well for you.
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So far, Dagan, you are up.
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I'm going to go Solomon.
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Solomon.
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All right.
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I'm going to go with a little bit of a dark horse pick.
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You know, it's going to, you know, maybe taking a risk, taking him in the second round.
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I want Judas taking Judas.
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I want to know what was up with him.
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I'm going to know what exactly is going on.
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So I got Peter and Judas.
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I might say, well, tell me there's not going to be an altercation.
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All right, Ryan.
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You have Paul at the table.
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No, no, wait, wait, wait, Paul's taken off.
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Yeah, you have David at the table who is joining you and David, Joseph, father of Jesus.
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Joseph.
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All right.
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Very good.
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All right.
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Winkler.
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You got Jesus and Moses.
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Who are you taking?
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Honest.
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Abraham.
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Abraham.
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All right.
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He had many.
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Greatest hits over here.
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I know.
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For Winkler, Dagan, you have got Paul and Solomon who's coming with you.
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John the Baptist, John, the Baptist.
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Very, very good.
15:43
All right.
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I'm taking Adam.
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So it's going to be Peter, Judas and Adam at my table.
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So here we go.
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All right.
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Last pick.
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Last pick for Winkler.
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You've got Jesus.
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I have a pick one.
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Sorry.
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I skipped you.
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You're not.
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You're not important.
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So David and Joseph.
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Who else you got?
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Samuel, Samuel, very, very, very good.
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All right.
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Last pick in the fourth round.
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You got Jesus, Moses and Abraham Winkler Elisha, Elisha.
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Mm hmm.
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Elisha.
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Elisha.
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Elisha.
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Elisha.
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Elisha.
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Elisha.
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Elisha.
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Elisha.
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Elisha.
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Degan.
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Joshua.
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Joshua.
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All right.
16:30
So I'm going to take the apostle John.
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Dang it.
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I want to do him.
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Suck it.
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The apostle John is on my team.
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You lose.
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So two guys that both form their own nicknames.
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So yeah.
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I didn't want them on your team.
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I didn't want you to have that.
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I mean, David's going to be there.
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You want Bathsheba.
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Maybe at your table.
16:52
See what that's like.
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Maybe Uriah can come and hang out.
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No.
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Not a fan.
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So you got David.
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Joseph and Samuel.
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Oh, man.
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I think it'd be fun.
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It's the last pick.
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Got to be really important.
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I know.
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It's very important.
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Nehemiah.
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Nehemiah.
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All right.
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That's who I thought I was going to be able to steal in the last round.
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But John was somehow still available.
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No one takes Noah.
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No one takes Abraham.
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He took Abraham.
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Wait.
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No.
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All right.
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Yeah.
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Same thing.
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So are there any other ones that, you know, upon further review, were really, really stupid
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for leaving out?
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Jonah.
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Jonah.
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Jeremiah.
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Jeremiah Matthew.
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Elijah.
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Matthew.
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Elijah.
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Isaiah.
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Samson.
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Even though you didn't even know that.
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Did you know Samson was in the Bible?
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I didn't know he's there.
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It's the only thing.
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It's the only question you got wrong.
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It's the only...
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Dorkus.
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No, what door?
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Was it Dorsas?
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Dorsas.
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Dorsas.
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Shout out to Dorsas.
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We love you, girl.
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All right, guys.
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But this is what we're going to do.
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We need everybody in the comment section to vote who has the best table, who has the
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best Bible table.
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So we have Winkler's table.
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Jesus.
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Well...
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Yeah.
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I mean, well...
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Winkler is out.
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We're just not going to consider Winkler.
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So of the rest of us...
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Vote against Jesus.
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I dare you.
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Yeah.
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I'm taking it off the table.
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I'm taking it off the table.
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Dagan, his table is Paul, Solomon, John the Baptist and Joshua.
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My table is Peter, Judas, Adam and John the Apostle and Horn has David, Joseph, Samuel
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and Nehemiah.
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So leave comments to let us know who's got the best of that crew, but we've had our
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fun.
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Now it's time to get down to business.
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Let's go and dig into Acts 11.
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So let's just say, Dagan, how about you read...
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It's kind of a decent sized section here, but probably needs to all stay in one.
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So let's do one through 18.
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Excuse me.
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All right.
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The apostles and the believers throughout Judea heard that the Gentiles also had received
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the Word of God.
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So when Peter went up to Jerusalem, the circumcised believers criticized him and said, "You went
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into the house of an uncircumcised men and ate with them.
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Start from the beginning.
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Starting from the beginning, Peter told them the whole story.
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I was in the city of Japa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision.
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I saw something like a large sheet being led down from heaven by its four corners, and
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it came down to where I was.
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I looked into it and saw four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, reptiles and birds.
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Then I heard a voice telling me, "Get up, Peter.
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Kill and eat."
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I replied, "Surely not, Lord, nothing impure or unclean has ever entered my mouth.
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The voice spoke from heaven a second time, do not call anything impure that God has made
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clean."
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This happened three times, and then it was pulled up to heaven again.
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Right then, three men who had been sent to me from Caesarea stopped at the house where
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I was staying.
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The Spirit told me to have no hesitation about going with them.
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These six brothers also went with me, and we entered the man's house.
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He told us how he had seen an angel appear in his house and say, "Send to Japa for Simon
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who is called Peter.
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He will bring you a message through which you and all your household will be saved."
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As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit came on them as he had come on us at the beginning.
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Then I remembered what the Lord said, "John baptized with water, but you will be baptized
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with the Holy Spirit."
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So if God gave them the same gift he gave us, who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ,
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who was I to think that I could stand in God's way?
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When they heard this, they had no further objections and praised God, saying, "So then
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even to Gentiles, God has granted repentance that leads to life."
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Very good.
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What version of the Bible are you reading?
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I think this is NIV.
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Okay, NIV.
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So Ryan, we table discussion last week, so if you want to go ahead and bring that up,
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let's hit it.
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Yeah.
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So basically, the Holy Spirit falls onto the Gentiles and last week towards the end.
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And so this week, he now goes back to Jerusalem to say, "Hey, this is what's happened."
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And like the first thing they do, you just get hit with legalism, straight up like, "Oh,
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you wait with uncircumcised people?
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How could you?"
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And so it just kind of goes to show how the Holy Spirit can come upon people like we talked
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about a couple weeks back.
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What's your name?
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Dorsos?
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No, not Dorsos.
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The...
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The singer?
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No, the wicked lady who is now like a Christian.
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Oh.
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Cap-on-dee.
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Cap-on-dee.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And Russell Brand, and like how we look at them, we're like, "Well, you're not doing
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these things or you're not circumcised or you're not fitting this mold."
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And we automatically write them off and we automatically just want to go and say, you
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know, like they don't fit the mold.
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So this isn't going to work.
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And that's what these guys are doing.
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But then he goes in the end and he says, "I've got to go back over."
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But if God then gave them the same gift that He's given us when we believed in Jesus Christ,
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what was I that who was I that I could stand in God's way?
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Like how many times are we standing in God's way when something like this happens with
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people and then like discouraging them?
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And I feel like at first there was discouragement among the legalist class of these guys, but
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then like they heard this and he spoke to them and then it all started to praise.
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Like, I feel like we should have that more often when somebody like a Russell Brand or
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a Cap-on-dee or even Kanye West, like I shouldn't have been so skeptical, you know?
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Even though discernment kind of fit with that one a little bit, but still, when we start
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to become skeptics, we lose what God is trying to do and I think we got to be able to keep
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our eyes open.
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That's kind of what I got from this.
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It's the old phrase that we judge others by their actions and ourselves by our intentions.
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Yeah.
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I think there's so much of that whenever we talk about people who come to the faith, you
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know, when you start going through their roster of offenses, well, they said this, they did
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this, they believed this, completely disregarding the fact that they're a completely new creation
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now.
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Yep.
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Like, it's all clean.
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Just like you were, just like you were, you did this, you said this, you believed this,
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it's no different, it's just you're down the road and somehow you think you deserve it
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or earned it or something and you've done nothing, nothing to deserve any of this.
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Well, you know, and he says that, who was I to think?
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Yeah.
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It's like, well, who in the world am I to evaluate what God's doing and it's only real
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if it makes sense to me, right?
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If it doesn't make sense to me, it's probably not real.
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Like that's, I feel like that's typically the attitude I had written down.
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God doesn't always work in the ways we expect.
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So we need to be ready to accept his plan when it's different than our expectations,
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right?
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Yeah.
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So it's, so it's not just Kat Von D, a Russell brand or Kanye West or any like famous person.
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It's like, it can be your brother, it can be someone in your Sunday school, it can be
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just someone at your church.
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And so like, I'm default skeptic, right?
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But there's a big difference between being a skeptic and a cynic.
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A cynic can't have their position changed.
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They will always find a way to use a lot of skeptics just like, I don't really know.
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But in this circumstance, it's like at least initially put both of those things away, put
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skepticism away, put cynicism away, just assume that they mean it.
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Now there is a point where it's like, okay, we need to start seeing some fruit of this
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conversion.
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So we brought up content.
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U S, I think we mentioned it a couple of weeks ago, but it's like, you know, he puts
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out this album.
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He's talking about Jesus on, you know, Joe Rogans podcast and he's, you know, sharing
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Jesus, everybody and doing Sunday service and doing all that stuff.
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Now he's running a porn company and he's divorced again.
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He certainly had multiple girlfriends post divorce from Kim Kardashian.
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And like, there was a whole lot of things in his life that is not even vaguely fruitful
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as you know, like you don't need to have John MacArthur standard for fruit, you know, even
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in this scenario, even if you just take a very relaxed standard of fruit, you're just
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not seeing any of it in Kanye West life.
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And so it's, it's hard to impugn motives on a guy like that.
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Okay, did you do that in order to, to make money because that was a swerve that lost
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him money, right?
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Really like wearing the MAGA hat and doing a gospel rap album that I'm sure that didn't
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elevate his public profile?
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You know what I mean?
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It took, it took you to a different audience, but no one in your audience, which is significantly
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bigger, thought it, thought it was better.
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They didn't want to do it.
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One thing I think of is like, we've always talked about delayed sanctification.
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And like I can tell you, like when I first became like a believer in everything, like
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I, I went down still the wrong paths.
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The fruit that I had was still not good fruit, but I was making excuses on an isegetical biblical
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level on why I could make the decisions I was making, you know?
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And so who knows if he's there at that point, you know, and he's like, well, you're all
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a bunch of legalists and I'm going to do some mental gymnastics in my head to make a point,
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but who knows when God's going to change his heart and open his eyes to what he's doing
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because God's continually moving on us, continually moving on me.
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Like I change every day.
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I'm not totally the guy I was 10 years ago, you know, but I'm not, I'm not too dumb to
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the fact that I was, I'm a sinner.
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I was a sinner.
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I still am a sinner and I need sanctification all the time.
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So I think we just need to show these people grace.
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I've got a family member that's like in the throes of addiction and they're, they say
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that they came to Christ and I'm going to trust that they're in Christ, you know, and even
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though there are some things that they do or are not good and I think are moving them
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back towards or at the time was moving them back towards addiction, I still didn't have
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loss in their salvation or think that they weren't saved.
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I was just like, man, you're just not making the right decisions, you know?
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And so they end up making the right decisions at some point, you know, or they make the
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wrong decisions and who knows when God's going to run on their heart.
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Well, it's, it's interesting, like who we picked a judge, like you mentioned, what
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if it was your brother and in my frame of reference, it's like my son, you know, I've
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got three kids and I've got a son and went, he's the oldest and he was the first one to
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accept Jesus.
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And when he did, I wasn't, there wasn't a shred of doubt in me.
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It was celebrating.
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My entire home was celebrating this, this decision that he had come to and, and started asking
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questions about and he wanted to be baptized and, but, but you're exactly right.
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Like, then after that, what I want to see is I want to see fruit because I want to make
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sure that it's not something that he is replicating that he's just learned to do in our home.
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And oh, this is what you do and my friend got baptized last year.
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And I want to, I want to do that.
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And I want to have my, you know, picture up on the screen and get baptized.
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That looks great.
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I wanted to see like, okay, well, I, you know, part of it is the dad is I'm going to equip
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him with, you know, good habits and we're going to have conversation, but I want to
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see the fruit, right?
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But, but I can't, I can't celebrate when my son makes that decision and then be like
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judgmental and dismissive of a celebrity doing it, right?
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Like it's, it's anytime someone says I've chosen to believe in Jesus, we should have
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the same reaction and it should be an absolute celebration.
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I think Sproul talked about in his commentary and I'm just, I don't know, I'm just, I've
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been thinking about it quite a bit.
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This idea that, you know, this delayed sanctification, is it a situation where maybe they've accepted
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the justification part of the gospel, but they have not been baptized in the Holy Spirit.
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Like, is that can there be a gap there?
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I don't know.
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I think once you've repented and believed you're filled with the Holy Spirit.
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Now that's where I think our free will comes in is do we listen to the Holy Spirit or do
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we listen to the flesh? So that's where, that's where I think that, that, that could play,
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play a part in delayed sanctification.
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It's certainly a choice component because whenever I talked about the concept, the first time
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I talked about public public, publicly was on John Cooper's podcast because I was like,
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I've just been like chewing on this because it's like, I got saved when bought a, you
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know, teen Bible at the Christian bookstore because I knew my parents wouldn't buy me
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one. So I took my own money when bought one and got it and, you know, started in Matthew
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and burned through the New Testament, just blowing my mind and everything's highlighted,
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taking notes to get to Genesis. I was like, all right, cool. And then you get to Exodus.
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I was like, all right, this is a little bit harder than you get bogged down somewhere,
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you know, in the Torah and the Pentateuch. And you're just like, Oh, Lee, and then you
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just kind of stop. And I felt like from that moment, and then fast forward like 20 years.
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Like I was just kind of playing Christian a little bit. And so it wasn't until I took
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it really, really seriously, you know, getting into undaunted life, getting into, you know,
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men's ministry as a, not just calling, but actually my profession, you know, then taking
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it up even another notch with the forging table. And you look back and it's like goodness gracious,
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what a delayed amount of time. But I don't, I don't think that I was without the Holy Spirit
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that I was without direction. It's just I kept making choices on top of choices, which are,
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yeah, I could say the Bible right now, but I'll do this instead. Or yeah, I could seek
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out discipleship in this area, but I'd rather play the sport or just something like that.
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And it just, and again, I didn't have anyone discipling me from the beginning. So it was
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all me, which was fine, because I'm very self-sufficient. And you know, I don't need your
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help. I can do it myself. But with something like this, you know, like had I been raised
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in the boy household and I, you know, make a public profession, like I would have had
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a dad that would have like, Hey, let's, you know, let's start reading together, let's
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start studying together. And like a dad that would be looking for fruit in my life. And
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I had, I had no one looking for fruit. No one offering a corrective word or a word of encouragement.
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It's just like, all right, I guess I'm just going to do this on my own.
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Yeah, I think as I'm looking at it, I mean, just hearing your story there, Kyle, I mean,
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how easy it is to wander away whenever you don't have other saints surrounding you.
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I know for me, it's, you know, all through high school, I had a people who, I mean, I
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was going to church every Wednesday night and every Sunday morning and there was a group
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of us that were around each other and, and, you know, poured into one another. And then
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I went to college and they weren't there. They went to their colleges. And then suddenly
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I'm, you know, the cheese stands alone. And how strong are my beliefs? How strong am I
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in the Holy Spirit? And that fight against the flesh? Who am I spending time with in
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college? And where are they leading me? And it wasn't to a righteous place. I think so
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much of this, as I look back now, I think so much of my journey was shaped just on the
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fact that I really wasn't around a lot of Christian brotherhood. Maybe by my own choices.
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I don't want to bail myself out. It's like it's everybody else's fault. But you know,
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I did not seek out Christian brotherhood when I got to college. And I think that was a big
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reason why I did fall away. I think that's pretty funny that you bring that up. We just
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had somebody over our house talking about Stumo. It's like a student ministry thing
32:10
in colleges. And she was kind of going over like all the colleges that they're in and
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like they're all in the Bible belt. Yeah. And I'm like, Oh man, that's like, that's
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like going shooting fish in a barrel. You know, but like, I think that's something that you
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bring up that we got to realize is that we live in a different time and place like there's
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cultural Christianity everywhere. We're all cultural Christians based upon where we grew
32:30
up or who our parents are. But do we truly walk the walk? Are we truly being discipled?
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We're in a generation where it's just very big seeker movement. And you know, everybody's
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just like trying to just bring in more numbers, but we're not discipling them. And so when
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I was talking to her, I was like, what are you guys doing for discipleship? Because like
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you're in the middle of the Bible belt, which is like kind of easy pickings. But like she's
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like showing us like, here's some people that I worked within the school that I go to at
32:56
the college I go to. And like, they grew up Christians, but they couldn't tell you what
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the gospel was. They couldn't tell you, you know, certain things. And so I think that's
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something that's like really needed now is that we've created all these converts, but
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we never discipled them. And that's what you're seeing here. And like, in acts is like, there's
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disciples, they don't call them disciples. They don't call them leaders. They don't call
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them pastors. Like everybody they talk about is a disciple. They're learning and they're
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helping other people learn. It's pretty amazing.
33:20
Well, and also with you inherently have extra problems, it goes back to my episode last year,
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country music theology towards like, okay, well, I was born and raised in Southwest Oklahoma.
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And then I went to, you know, Christian high school, and then I went to Oklahoma state
33:34
and then I whatever, like I'm just, you know, making up a person here. And so they bought
33:38
in some somewhere along the road, they bought into this idea that, you know, God has grandchildren,
33:43
right? So that because Nana was a Christian, I'm a Christian, or because my parents were
33:47
good Christians, I'm a Christian somehow. And then, you know, hey, I'm not, I'm not so bad.
33:52
I, you know, I haven't had sex with too many girls and I, you know, I don't smoke weed
33:55
anymore as much as I used to, you know, I voted Republican in the last election and I listened
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to Lou Combs and they're like, yeah, so I'm good. So God's going to favor me because God
34:03
is for all of those things. And so I don't want to say just to sound contrary in that
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in a way, Stu Mose got it harder here, but the people here don't think they're depraved
34:13
because they were raised in this Christian milieu, like talking to Matt Chandler about
34:18
doing ministry in the burbs of Dallas, where everyone's perfect. We kind of have that here
34:22
in Edmund, where like all the guys make good money, all the women have at least been augmented
34:29
to look perfect. And then you've got, you know, people that got the perfect cars and
34:32
the perfectly manicured lawns and every, the kids are great and they all go to private
34:36
school and it's all this and all that. So there are people, especially women, they'll
34:39
go to these churches where it's like Mother's Day, they're just slobbered on with how great
34:43
they are and how horrible the men in their lives are. And then they go home and they're
34:46
just like, man, I'm amazing. Like I, I don't do anything wrong. I go to a women's Bible
34:51
study periodically. I listen to Carrie Jobin. So I guess I'm good. And so to a degree proving
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to someone like that, I remember talking to your wife about that. Rachel was talking
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about a particular woman that she was trying to share the gospel with. But like this woman's
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good. Like she takes care of her kids and the house is always clean and, you know, things
35:09
work out really well. She's a good cook and like she's just a good woman. She's not cheating
35:13
on her taxes. She's not cheating on her husband. Like she's, she's a good woman. And so proving
35:17
to her that she's depraved and needs a savior like that in some ways is a harder sell. You
35:23
know what I mean? That's just God opening your eyes. I mean, that's, you know, that's
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why when we talk back about the law, moral laws there to show us that were depraved and
35:29
that God is holy and that's why we need Christ. I think it's funny that you brought up about
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the country music, Christianity and the fact that since grandma was a Christian, that makes
35:39
me a Christian. I mean, we're going right back into that partiality of the Jews or the Jews
35:43
are like, we're the chosen ones. Everybody else around me isn't because this is what God
35:47
is looking for, this cleanliness. And that, and then what God showing you that this isn't
35:52
cleanliness, the moral law is what's cleanliness. You not eating pork. It doesn't make you clean.
35:57
It's just something that was put in ceremonially. And so we've now created a ceremonial law
36:02
on how that we live and how that we do things without looking at our true love, which is
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Christ.
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I will also point out, on the beginning part of this section, you went to uncircumcised
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men and ate with them. Apparently that was a sufficient line of attack for Peter to change
36:20
the way that he operated because you go to Galatians two versus 11 through 14. This is
36:24
what Paul, you know, basically traveled to rebuke him to his face. So to all you Christians
36:28
out there, they're like, we shouldn't recruit our brothers. It's like, all right, well then
36:31
just ignore scripture entirely and you'll be correct. But in this particular segment,
36:36
like, that's what Peter was doing in Galatians. We see that he had basically taken the bait
36:41
from the Judaizers because the circumcision party, they were, you know, trying to say
36:44
to people, no, no, no, yeah, Jesus. Yeah, we're team Jesus, but also you need to get
36:48
circumcised and you need to carry the ceremonial law and you need to basically become a Jew
36:52
in order to become a Christian. And Peter was basically, you know, you know, acquiescing
36:58
to that, that ideology and Paul had to come and rebuke him directly to his face, which
37:02
is so interesting because Peter was on this earth for three years with Jesus and saw the
37:08
resurrected Jesus. Whereas Paul, you know, was Saul, you know, crucifying in a lot of
37:14
ways, the Christians and persecuting them in real murderous ways. And then he's the one
37:18
having to repute the rock and tell the rock like, Hey, bro, like, you can't do that.
37:24
That's exactly. He was, you know, the glass shattered and here comes stone cold. He's
37:31
got the leather vest and all that. So yeah, I mean, that was, that's a very interesting
37:34
thing here to where it's like, Hey, apparently Peter was very susceptible to, to this line
37:38
of attack like, Hey, you went and he was uncircumcised men. Yeah, I mean, you gotta, you gotta understand
37:43
how important this law was to the Jewish people. I mean, you know, God, God was God chose them,
37:52
right? But before the law came into place, the Jewish people thought, well, we were chosen
37:57
because we're Jews. Like that's it. There was no nothing else about it. And it is a form
38:03
of, you know, just lineage. I was born to the right person. Therefore, God loves me and
38:10
I'm chosen. And then God says, Oh yeah, all right, here, take these laws and then keep
38:16
them all. Yeah. And they had to take them so seriously. I mean, you know, when Peter's
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talking about these animals that are now, you go rise, Peter, kill and eat to understand
38:26
how serious this is. Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego went to the fiery furnace and Daniel
38:32
went to the lion's den over the diet because the king wanted them to eat certain food and
38:37
they wouldn't do it. So how serious is this law? It's really serious. I'm super serial
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guys. I mean, it's a tradition. I mean, when you come down to it, it's a tradition. And
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like we've, if you grow, I grew up in a very charismatic household. And when I grew up,
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alcohol was wrong. You could not drink alcohol. If I saw my grandfather with a beer, I thought
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the guy was going to hell, you know, and it's because of the traditions that I grew up in.
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And then as I get to learn scripture and get to know things, it's alcohol isn't a sin
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unless you overuse it and use it to get drunk. But you're built on those traditions and those
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traditions that will go back into your head and you have to die to Christ, you know, not
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die to your traditions.
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Well, and so back, you know, in Acts 10 where he goes to Cornelius's house, you know, and
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he's in the midst of all these Gentiles, like Peter's getting revealed, God's plan for man
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is beyond the Jews, right? Like the Gentiles are included in that. But the, you know, his
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bros back in Japa, like they're not, they weren't, they didn't have the vision. They
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weren't at the thing. And they're just kind of hearing about this, like, like they feel
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like they're owed an explanation because of that, right? Like, like the laws are like,
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like, you need, you need to tell us what in the world and why. And so it's almost kind
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of like this whole story, it's like he's going back, right? This is the same story from chapter
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10. And he's coming back and recounting it all. And at the end, you know, it's, it's
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the line of, um, so if God gave them the same gift he gave us, who believed in the Lord
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Jesus Christ, who was I to think that I could stand in God's way? And I could imagine this
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room full of people being like, yeah, okay. Yeah. Okay. Sounds good. Yeah, absolutely.
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But, but it was a massive mind shift from, you know, and I, and I feel like they felt
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like man, when Peter gets here, he's got some explaining to do. Yeah, I mean, we read it
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and it's like, yeah, it's kind of weird, but not a big deal. But that was like earth shattering
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stuff to hear them go through. That's like if Pentecostal heard that Jesus was going
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or one of the disciples was going and drinking whiskey, you know, that'd be earth shattering
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in the realm that I grew up for poor Pentecostals or missing out on so much fun. All right, Jake,
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if you will take us to the second chunk of Acts 11. So that takes us to the end. That's
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19 through 30. Now those who were scattered because of the persecution that arose over
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Stephen traveled as far as Phoenicia and Cyprus and Antioch speaking the word to no one except
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Jews, but there were some of them men of Cyprus and serene who on coming to Antioch spoke
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to the Hellenist also preaching the Lord Jesus and the hand of the Lord was with them and
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a great number who believe turned to the Lord. The report of this came to the ears of the
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church in Jerusalem and they sent Barnabas to Antioch. When he came and saw the grace
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of God, he was glad and he exhorted them all to remain faithful to the Lord with steadfast
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purpose for he was a good man full of the Holy Spirit and of faith and a great many people
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were added to the Lord. So Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul and when he had found
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him he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church and taught a
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great many people and in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians. Now in these
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days prophets came down from Jerusalem to Antioch and one of them named Agabus stood
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up and foretold by the Spirit that there would be a great famine over all the world. This
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took place in the days of Claudius. So the disciples determined everyone according to
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his ability to send relief to the brothers living in Judea and they did so sending it
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to the elders by the hand of Barnabas and Saul. So there's a lot of firsts here in this section.
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So verse 26 this is the first place that we see recorded that these followers of Jesus
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were called Christians. It was actually a derisive term. It was like oh you know those
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Christ followers, those Christians. And so that's very interesting. Also you see in verse 30 this
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is the first mention explicitly of elders. So these are overseers, pastors, there's some of the
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roles had been hinted in other places and acts. But this was kind of that first time that we see
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that actually explicitly put out there. But I actually want to go back to verse 19. Now those
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who were scattered because of the persecution that arose over Stephen traveled as far as Phoenicia
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and Cyprus and Antioch speaking the word to no one except the Jews. The interesting thing about
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this is it was because Stephen was murdered by a mob that these people went outside of their city
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to share this news. Now it says that they shared it with everyone except the Jews or to know when
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except Jews so they didn't share with Gentiles. But that's another thing that we've talked about
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on previous forging tables where it's like if something bad happens to somebody that you think
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is good and you're like well that's just bad. There's no good that can come of it. It's like be
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careful because I'm sure the people at the time that had watched Stephen get stoned to death and
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you know love Stephen or Stephen's buddies or family members are like this is you know a net
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negative thing here. But because that happened God's the gospel of Christ actually started to
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spread around this area. So I think that's important for us perspective wise that when we in our own
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limited judgment say that this couldn't possibly be a good thing. It's like maybe we need to back
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up a step or two. Yeah I know I agree sometimes we just have to let go and let God. Did you?
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We were doing so good. It was such a good episode. And then hey should we be known for what we're
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for and not what we're against? Should we should we you know lean into that too?
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Come on. I was gonna say good. You're gonna say what? I was gonna say great point Kyle. No that's
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fine. That would have been totally sufficient. And there's nothing else that needs to be said
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about that. I said it all. Did I? Home run? I ate a grand slam on this one. I just really took
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it home that when they were they're just speaking to the Jews it says spoke to the Hellenists also.
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So that means like the Greeks were listening. And not only were the Jews coming the Greeks were
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coming to the Gentiles were coming to Christ as well. And the hand of the Lord was with them.
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In particular note the Hellenists were also trying to kill Saul only just a couple of chapters.
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Yeah. So now they're listening.
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Now they're listening. Yeah and I think that was pointed out in one of the commentary. So you get
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to verse 40 or 25. It had been years since Saul had escaped Jerusalem at this point. But we don't
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get any sense that the Hellenists had forgotten their ire towards Saul, you know, probably being
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called Paul at this point. So you know, Barnabas needed help. It was just kind of one of those
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deals. But it had been years between that time until now. All right. Anything else? I'm excellent
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or yeah. I was gonna just say Barnabas. I really like the example of Barnabas here. So his name
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means son of encouragement. And the example here where he's he's here observing this church in Antioch,
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which is at the time the third largest city in the world. It's Rome, then Alexandria, then Antioch.
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And he's seeing this large church gathering. And here's Barnabas who's obviously very,
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very close to the disciples and could have just said, you know what, I'm here. I'm going to take
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on some church leadership here. You know, I know what I'm doing. And he doesn't do that. His
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first reaction is number one, he's glad for all of them, which, you know, going into the 10th
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commandment, you know, just this idea that we should not be covetousness of other people's success,
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even, you know, these are people who are finding great joy in the Lord and and can he's just observing
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and happy for them, genuinely happy. And his reaction to all of it is, all right, I'm going to go get
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Saul. I'm going to go get him because this is the man who needs to actually preach into these
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people. I am not that person. The idea that you can actually be that self aware of your own gifts
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and what you should be doing and what you should not be doing. I think Barnabas, that's a pretty
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great example here. I agree. I second. Do we have consent? Yeah, I consent has been reached.
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Go ahead, Dagan. Well, you know, just just in like how Jake was saying, you know, being an active
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recruiter, you know, it's it's not about what I'm going to show up and what what do I have to do?
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What do I have to say? It's identifying, replicating, raising up, discipling, you know, and Barnabas
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seeking out Saul to do that right and spending some time with him and, you know, you know,
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making him into more of a leader. You know, I don't think we do that enough as Christians. I think we
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come in and we come in with our own knowledge and our own thoughts and our own ideas and we
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don't we I personally don't do a really good job of, you know, of being intentional about raising
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people up. And I think there are a lot of people on the sideline that would love to be called in
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to the field, right? And they're just waiting. They're just waiting. They're not going to take
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the initiative themselves. They want to have a little bit of confidence of the Barnabas saying,
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man, you got what it takes you. I need you. I need you to come help me. You can do this. And
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and I'm going to work with you and equip you. And but but you've got it. And and too many people
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are waiting. But also the people that are in the game seem too reluctant to pull in from the side.
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Yeah, I would agree with that. I will even go back to a comment I made earlier about when I became
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a Christian, like nobody nobody offered like, Hey, knucklehead, like you got some you got some good
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qualities. But come over here. You're kind of you're kind of chimping as well. Like you're kind of
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knuckle dragging a little bit because I would have been all over it because I'm a lean forward
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doer. Like I want to be pat on the head and told I, you know, I'm doing a good job and all those
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types of things. And I want to make sure that I'm hitting the mark. And so some people don't know
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what they don't know. So they don't know. I need to seek out a disciple. I need somebody with gray
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hair to tell me what's up. And you know, kind of like lead me along this path. But I think you're
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right. We are rarely looking for opportunities to find someone to disciple because it's like generic
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good business advice is everyone should have a mentor and a mentee. Right. So you have someone
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that's pouring into you. And you have someone that you are pouring into now, depending upon where you
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are. And you know, you maybe you're in the sage stage. So there's no one that's, you know, around
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to mentor you anymore. So you're you're maybe mentoring people several levels down. Maybe
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you're just starting your career. So there's not a whole lot of people that would maybe be able to
48:55
benefit necessarily from you. But you know, there's at least somebody. So you're 19, you're a freshman
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in college. You're kind of a knucklehead. Well, you could probably mentor a 14 15 year old,
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that type of a thing. But then there's going to be multiple levels of mentors above you.
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And I think you're right. And I don't think that we we take that seriously. And if if we did,
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we wouldn't have that problem with discipleship that we were talking about earlier was crazy as
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I was a discipled at 34 by a 28 year old. Okay. It wasn't even like an elder or anything like that.
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It was a 28 year old guy that I was in a group with. And I started asking these certain questions
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because I didn't understand them. And he just poured into me. And it always makes me laugh.
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He was like, I was like 34, 33, 34. And yeah, this guy was like 28.
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Well, thanks you back some good advice. I heard it's not how many years you've been a Christian,
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it's how many hours. Yeah. And so like someone may be younger than you, but they put in more hours,
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or maybe the wisdom is also a gift. Yeah, wisdom is a gift. And this guy had a lot of wisdom. And
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like he probably asked the same questions I asked and really studied them. And I mean,
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he was just on point, but yeah, his name was Andrew. Really great guy. It's awesome.
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Shout out to Andrew guys. Is there anything else on acts 11 before we close it up?
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