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Welcome back to The Forging Table.
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The mission of Undaunted Life is equipping them to push back darkness with the content
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that forges spiritual mental and physical resilience.
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At The Forging Table, you'll see a group of regular guys forging spiritual resilience
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by digging into God's Word and we're welcoming all of you to come along on that journey with
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us.
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Let's go out of order.
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That's Horn.
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That's Dagan.
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That's Winkler.
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Guys, we are digging into Acts 10.
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And let's just get right after it.
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So, Ryan, if you would not mind, let's start out with the first eight verses of Acts 10.
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That's a seria, there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion of what was known as the Italian
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cohort, a devout man who feared God with all his household.
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He gave alms generously to the people and prayed continually to God.
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About the ninth hour of the day, he saw clearly in a vision, an angel, of God, come in and
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say to him, Cornelius.
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And he stared at him in terror and said, "What is it, Lord?"
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And he said to him, "Your prayers and your alms have ascended as a memorial before God."
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And now, send men to Japa to bring one Simon, who is called Peter.
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He is lodging with the one Simon, a Tanner, whose house is by the sea.
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When the angel who spoke to him had departed, he called two of his servants and devout soldier
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from among those who attended him, having related everything to them, he sent them to Japa.
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So interesting thing about this, so a centurion means, you know, you're a leader of a hundred
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men, but the devout part.
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So development that these guys feared God, but I guess according to something we've seen
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chapter 11, doesn't necessarily mean that you were saved, but I thought there was an
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interesting point from the MacArthur commentary from verse two.
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It said feared God was basically akin to Gentiles that had abandoned their pagan religions
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and worshiped Jehovah God.
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And so because again, if you're not terribly familiar with this, you know, time in Roman
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culture, I mean, they just had a just an absolute panoply of different gods, they had gods for
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everything.
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And then they had a God for all the gods that they may have missed, right?
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So, you know, you basically have all these things.
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And you know, a lot of them, part of the problems with proselytizing to the Romans was, hey,
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oh yeah, Jesus, let's just add them.
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Let's just add them to the menu.
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And you know, we'll just take it and it's like, well, no, like this is the God.
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There are no false gods, but it is interesting to see that this is, you know, clearly a Gentile
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man that has, you know, kind of turned from the pagan religions underneath Roman rule
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and, you know, turned to Jehovah God, I thought that was interesting.
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Yeah, I think one of the things whenever I was reading through this is it's interesting
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that God sent an angel to Cornelius who is a Gentile who is a God-fearing man, but for
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all intents and purposes, the religion that he is following is not welcoming him.
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It's not welcoming him at all.
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Right.
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I mean, he's a Gentile and he's worshiping the God of Israel.
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It doesn't work.
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And so I think it's interesting.
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God sends an angel to Cornelius and to tell him to go get Peter instead of saying like,
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you know, well, the angel is going to tell you the good news.
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You're in.
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No, it's not that way.
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You go get Peter.
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And I think in a way, I think Cornelius needed to hear that he was clean and welcome into
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the faith by someone who is Jewish, but also Peter needed to actually go to someone where
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they were considered unclean and see that they would.
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It doesn't matter.
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Yes.
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But God's made it all clean.
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It's all it's all common.
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You know, it was like unlawful to be in a Gentiles home.
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Yep.
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Like Gentiles could be in a Jewish home, but it was unlawful for a Jew to go into a Gentiles
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home.
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And one of the things I think was pretty crazy to look at is that God accepts his prayers.
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So you're thinking of a guy that only listens to the Jewish people, his chosen people,
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but God was listening to the prayers of a Gentile.
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I thought he only listened to the prayers of Calvinist.
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Is that not what?
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No, no, no, but the Calvinist are the only ones that can know what the right like interpretation
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of the prayer.
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You want to start this now?
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So you shut me down.
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Last week.
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That's okay.
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You want to start this now?
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Maybe.
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You want to throw it down?
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Not right now.
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Okay.
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We'll do it.
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We got doing.
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Hey, we got plenty of time.
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How about this and you just throw a Calvinist bomb into everything?
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Come on.
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That's it.
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Yeah.
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We're going.
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They can save us.
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Hey, it's in the Bible.
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Dave, can we let Dave and say the Bible?
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So I read this first part and, you know, I admit I don't think like everybody else.
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I don't think it's straight line.
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I'm a little more scatter brain, but I'm reading this thinking, had Cornelius heard the conversion
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story of Saul, do you think he had heard that?
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Because he's a, he's a devout believer and an angel comes to him.
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And if he knows the story of Saul, right, and has heard of that story, and then an angel
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comes to him and is like, hey, go get Peter.
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And then like wait a minute.
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Seriously, that's it.
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Hey, well, you know, we'd have to assume, well, first of all, do angels talk like that?
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That was kind of like super seductive.
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I read that in a book somewhere.
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No wonder everybody has terror.
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I know.
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Go get Peter.
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Well, get Peter.
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But like, okay, is there any way that he didn't hear about the conversion?
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Because again, we have to, there were years that went by from the time that he was like
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chief persecutor of the Christians to now proselytizing.
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I would say it would be almost an impossibility that he had heard, not her question is why
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does it matter?
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No, I was just curious.
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It doesn't matter.
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Yeah.
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I'm just not saying it matters.
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I'm saying I'm curious to think like you have, you know that story.
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Yeah.
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And then the angel comes to you and you feel like you're have like that is the moment in
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your life where you're just like, you're just like, yes, Lord, what he says, he trembles
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or whatever.
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And he's like, what is it, Lord?
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Yeah.
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He's like, go, go to, go to go to a job and get Peter.
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I see what you're saying.
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And he's like, I was like, where did they?
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And then it's like almost crickets in the background and it's like, cool.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's my moment.
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All right.
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I'll go get them.
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I also like the little Google maps directions.
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The angels giving him here.
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Yeah.
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It's like he's by the sea.
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He's in Java, Java, you know, some guy named Simon, he's a tanner, I think, and I was
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actually laughing as I was going through this because I was going, this almost sounds
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like when I asked my wife, like, where is it going to say, I feel like I'm listening
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to my wife give directions to my son.
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It reminds me of the directions to shoot farms, where it's like, if you pass a beehive, you
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gone too far.
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You pass.
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You go to the other.
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I got too far.
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It's like, can you drop a pen?
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I mean, my goodness, like you're an angel, but you're staying with Simon.
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Who's a tanner?
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You're a good tanner.
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Right.
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If you're at the bad tanner's place, you've taken a wrong turn.
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But it was a city by the sea and Java means beautiful.
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Yeah.
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And so, and so that's where it's like, I guess like if you were to go out to that area, that
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it's like pretty, pretty bad looking area around there, but then you go to Java, man,
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it's the prettiest part of that area.
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Now, okay, maybe that we need to kind of, we can pull together some funds and send you
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there.
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Because months ago now, when I asked about, hey, think of the best landscape you've ever
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seen.
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Think about the most beautiful thing in nature that we ever saw and we got people talking
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about, you know, the Rocky Mountains in Canada and you know, Glacier National Park and you're
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like, oh, no.
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Like I was at this coffee shop in Italy once and I was like, no, like not in the city and
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like you couldn't come up with anything.
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Next time that's asked, you throw out Japa.
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Just say Japa and say what it means to me to Japa.
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Say it's, it's a no brainer for me.
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If you look up and look up tickets to Japa, like let's see if there's a, like a sandals,
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sandals, Japa, can we, can we send them there?
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It will.
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An all-inclusive thing.
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They got an all-inclusive in Japa.
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Right.
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Does biking cruises take me from getting missiles to lob that mean for that?
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Probably not right now, but you know, while you're looking that up, we'll, we'll keep
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this train moving to one of my favorite sections of scripture here.
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So, Dagan, you get to do the honors here.
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We're going to get into Peter's vision.
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So let's go nine through 16 unless you've already found Japa, then we will not, they
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will pause.
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I will.
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Why don't you go ahead and read it.
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All right.
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Let's hit it.
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All right.
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Dagan, nine through 16.
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Okay.
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About noon the following day as they were on their journey in approaching the city, Peter
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went up on the roof to pray.
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He became hungry and wanted something to eat.
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And while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance.
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He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet let down to the earth by its
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four corners.
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He contained all kinds of four footed animals as well as reptiles and birds.
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Then a voice told him, get up, Peter, kill and eat surely not Lord Peter replied, I've
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never eaten anything impure or unclean.
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The voice spoke to him a second time.
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Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.
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This happened three times and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.
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Now for most of us, we can't remember the first time we had bacon.
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What do you want to bet that Peter remembers the first time that he had bacon?
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Here's the thing.
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So a couple of months ago, there was about, well, here before I get there, do we have
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some Japa info?
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Give us the info.
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So Japa is right outside Tel Aviv.
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So if you guys want to send me out there, guys were taking donations, just put it in
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the memo lines.
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Yeah.
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Horn.
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What's your minmo?
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Yeah.
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I'm going to depart.
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Hey guys.
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I wouldn't sound like one of those Pentecostal pastors right now.
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I'm like, all right, guys, we need this much in 90 days.
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Right.
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So if we can get this done by September 9th through the 16th is when I'll go out there
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and it's going to cost it's loading as loading, okay, spinning wheel of death.
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Yes.
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Did we, and did you add in the security costs of like the armored vehicles are now, I haven't
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done that yet.
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I'm just getting the airfare.
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Okay.
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Just the airfare.
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But really what's happening is Ryan is actually a super secret soldier and we're sending him
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undercover to go.
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Yeah.
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The pasty is white hokey dumpty looking dude on his table.
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There's a thing.
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You have plenty of places to sticker like hair to your body and there's not like other
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hair to deal with.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I can't have a beard like that.
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It's still loading, man.
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You're in it slow.
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You know, okay.
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Maybe it's your stupid device.
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Okay.
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Here we go.
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There it is.
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It's going to be round trip.
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Guys.
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I think we can swing that.
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Send in.
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What's it called?
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The beautiful city or the what?
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What was the name of it?
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Beautiful.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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All right, guys.
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32.
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Get there at 535 the next day.
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It's 19 hour flight.
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This is what we're going to do.
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We're going to do a Sarah McLachlan style commercial in the arms of an angel.
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We're going to have like slow panning of just you looking really, really sad and we have
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to send you to a place that's beautiful because you were not.
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Is it over here?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Right there.
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You just tell them you did.
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The problem is that someone's going to clip that exact thing and create that.
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You're like, Hey, hold just a duck face.
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Yeah.
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That's okay.
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That's Jake Winkler.
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I thought that was Blue Steel.
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I thought that was Blue Steel.
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All right.
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So at this point, getting back to a versus nine through 16, this is a rise, kill and
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eat like this, this would have been so shocking and offensive.
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But at this point, we're seeing that, you know, nothing is going to get in the way of
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fellowship between Gentiles and Jews, no more dietary restrictions.
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In a couple of months ago, there was a buddy of mine who, a former NFL athlete, a tremendous
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unbelievable athlete and he decided that he was going to go vegan.
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And I was like, that's interesting.
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Like kind of let me know what was his decision behind that.
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And, you know, seems like he's gotten some, you know, bad advice about that meets bad
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for particular reasons, but that wasn't the argument he made to me.
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The argument he made to me was, well, yeah, I mean, according to the Bible, we should
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be vegetarians.
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And I was like, interesting.
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Where does it say that?
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Yeah.
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The argument, essentially, I'm paraphrasing and I want to make sure I present it as accurately
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as possible.
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But it was like in the garden, Adam and Eve were built to not eat animals, that there
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would not be bloodshed in the garden.
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And so we were built from the beginning to be processors of non meat and all that, which
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he can't prove that, but that was his argument.
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But then I talked to Joby about it and he's like, ax 10, bro, rise, kill and eat like
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you got to be kidding me that you would think at this point that, you know, you were going
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to subsist on beans and like lettuce.
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Does your buddy listen to Shane Claiborne?
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Is that where he's getting it from?
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No, I don't think he's ashamed.
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Is that supposed to be like, you know, when Jesus comes back and everything gets turned
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into a series.
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You're like a Tom Brady fan.
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He was an NFL guy.
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Like, I mean, like he's trying to bring utopia here already.
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Yeah.
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Aganism.
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Well, it's kind of one of those things.
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I we didn't have as in in depth of a conversation as I would have liked to really understand
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his point of view, but I mean, when you get to this, this section, there's so much here
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because basically if anyone's like trying to say that you are killing animals, animals
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have rights and blah, blah, blah, and you shouldn't do that, it's that they are beautiful
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and they are also here to provide us subsistence, right?
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And they are freaking delicious.
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Hey, the everything about Christianity would look a lot different if you stopped reading
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after Genesis.
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Well, yeah, I mean, if we're back in the garden, okay, I get your point.
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We're not in the garden.
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If sin has entered this world, we eat meat and delicious, bro, like you've got to figure
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that one out.
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Okay.
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I we got to take a short pause here, but it's it's like it has to do with this.
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I need to know not want to know not I'm desirous of this information.
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I need to know what everybody's favorite meat meal they've had in their lives.
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So Ryan, this one should be easy.
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This isn't like, Hey, what landscape did you like the most?
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If you look at your entire life, okay, no, no, no, no, that's not why I said it.
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But if you look at your entire life, so it could be any number of things.
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But if you think about this one particular meal, this is the best meat meal of your entire
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meat eating career, who's going first, I'll go first hit it.
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So a wife and I for a teeny university went to Napa Valley wine country and there was
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this place called press and she got it all set up and everything and it's basically
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like a course meal and they do multiple courses and pair it with wine and they came to the
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meat course and it was a beef cap wagyu and like it was like probably it was like three
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ounces like probably three or four ounces and it was the most amazing thing I ever had
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like it melted in my mouth like a Krispy Kreme donut like it was it was so good in the glass
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of wine.
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And so I was like, I was like in our anniversary.
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I was like, we splurged a little bit, you know, I didn't buy any cologne that year.
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So like, you know, how are you okay?
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I was okay.
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You missed in a whole year?
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Oh, yeah.
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I didn't buy any clothes just for this moment.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Which made it even sweeter, which made this even sweeter.
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I was like, Hey man, can I get another one?
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And he's like, he's like, I don't know, man.
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He's like, it's pretty expensive.
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And I'm like, what are we talking about here?
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Like, wait, wait, wait, the waiter said that to you?
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The waiter said it to me.
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I was like, it's pretty expensive.
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You should have said, you don't know me, son, bring me two more.
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I was like, I was like, wait, how's, like, how much was it?
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Man.
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No, it's going to make me look like a [inaudible].
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Like, no, because what look makes you look like a [inaudible] is spinning like 500 bucks on
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cologne.
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That's kind of [inaudible].
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Not meat.
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Not meat, brother.
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Okay.
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In your eyes, since it's meat, I don't look like a [inaudible].
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But no, so like the guy, like, it really wasn't expensive.
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Like I've had some wagyu steaks, like A5 and you're spending like 250 bucks or bucks.
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And he's like $90, and I was like, oh my.
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It's 90 bucks.
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That's not.
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He's like, yeah, man.
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It's 90 bucks.
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And I was like, you know what?
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I think I'll do it.
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He's like, because you're doing it, I'm going to throw in the, the pour of wine for free.
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Hey.
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I was like, cool.
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You know, and I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah, so I got, I got like, it was actually
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bigger this time because it wasn't a part of like the menu.
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So I paid 90 bucks and I probably got like six ounces worth it and worth every last minute.
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Oh, man, my wife, I was like, you want to buy it?
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She's like, no, I can tell you're enjoying it.
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Amen.
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Yeah.
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No, she's like, you can have some more lentils.
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She loves me that much.
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So, but yeah, no, it was like a beef cap and like the beef caps, like the top of the rib
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eye.
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And it's just like the rib cap.
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It was flavorful.
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Unbelievable.
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Oh, man, it was wag.
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Oh, dude.
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All right, guys.
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Have fun trying to top that.
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It was good.
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Okay.
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Nicely done.
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Mine's, mine's nothing like that.
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I mean, I've, I've had some good meals.
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The one that comes to mind is just more of like the experience of like, I remember it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it was at Terri Blacks in Austin, Texas and their beef ribs.
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Oh boy.
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I mean, it's like, I mean, they're, they probably weigh four pounds and they just, you hold,
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you jiggle the bone and it just dinosaur bone.
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It is.
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And it, it is just like it, like it makes, makes you want to cry a little bit as you're
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eating it.
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Just thinking like it's smoked perfectly.
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It's just melting in your mouth.
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But I'm crying right now because I literally did not expect you to say a beef rib.
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I thought it was going to be a honey baked ham.
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No.
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Yeah.
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Well, you know, I, I know I look like a ham guy.
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Wait, wait, wait for anyone who doesn't know why in the world we spend so much time with
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and so much time on this podcast debating ham versus Turkey, it's Dagan's fault.
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So if you've only been here for the last few months, Dagan, well, you can tell where you're
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used to work while you're in college.
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Yeah.
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And started all this.
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Yeah.
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So like around, you know, late October, they would hire like off season, Christmas season
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people and a bunch of me and my college buddies drove up to Oklahoma city to go to honey baked
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ham for like, you know, seasonal help.
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And we would glaze ham.
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Some people would do the spiral cut thing, which was, which was cool.
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I wasn't senior enough to do that.
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So I glazed it and ruined me, ruined me for me, the size of the moon, I would be the size
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of the moon.
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If I did that.
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Right.
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And so that started the, the greatest debate in the history of the forging table, which
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is team hammer, team Turkey.
18:37
And I got to say, at this point, are we, is it, it's probably, it's pretty even, even
18:41
with Chandler screwed it over, when he was like, look, Turkey, because everybody says
18:46
Turkey, because the things are going to be like, don't think, yeah, what if it's like
18:49
October the 17th, we're like, that's what we're talking about.
18:53
But no, Peter loved him.
18:55
He served a dream about eating it.
18:57
Right.
18:58
Most people, whoever has a dream about like Thanksgiving, Turkey.
19:00
So all right.
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So that's a good one, Deagan man, obviously, I don't miss a lot of meals.
19:06
I have, I know I have a whole, there's the sentimental side and then there's just quantity.
19:12
I'm going to go first, my grandpa rug had an old tasty bake grill and was a magician
19:23
with steaks.
19:25
Every year my grand, my dad, when he, it was his birthday, he would go and buy steaks
19:32
from the butcher and then he would make them on the tasty bake and had a whole process
19:36
for preparing them and ever, and I tried to learn it.
19:39
I couldn't.
19:40
I was too young.
19:41
But he had a, he would always make everybody a filet except for me.
19:47
I got a big old T-bone.
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All right.
19:49
Amen.
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So that was, so probably that is honestly because basically my sister wouldn't finish
19:55
her steak.
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I'd get her leftovers, my grandma wouldn't finish her steak.
19:59
I'd get her leftovers.
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It was kind of fantastic, but that's probably the best just for sentimental.
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Okay.
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Very good.
20:08
I'm going to give a shout out to the beef sponsor of undaunted life at this point, Primal
20:11
Beef guys.
20:12
I'm, I'm dead serious.
20:13
This isn't an ad I'm just saying.
20:15
Like I've tried a bunch of different samples from like some of the other meat delivery
20:19
companies and some of them are fine.
20:21
But part of the problem was is they would, they're sourcing it from different farms and
20:24
so you can get the same box two months in a row and the meat's going to be completely
20:27
different.
20:28
But, you know, primal beef, like some of the best steaks and the first brisket I ever
20:32
made was a primal beef brisket so we made that man for dude, it took me freaking years
20:38
before I was comfortable like taking on a brisket just because I was like, man, I don't
20:41
want to mess it up.
20:42
And, but when you get sent a brisket for free, it's like, all right, I'm playing with house
20:45
money right now.
20:46
So I'm putting it all on red and so that we made it happen, but did not mess it up.
20:50
It was good with my family.
20:51
My man.
20:52
Well, hey, you, you gave me a lot of good advice on that and then shout out to meet Mitch.
20:55
He'll, he'll be featured prominently here in a second.
20:58
I've got a couple of honorable mention, it's my freaking table, bro.
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I bought the table.
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All right.
21:04
So here are the honorable mentions.
21:05
They'll be quick.
21:06
And steak houses, so that is built for people like me because I, the majority of my calorie
21:12
consumption is meat.
21:13
And so this was like the fourth or fifth time I went.
21:15
I literally went and took a potty break and I didn't need to go pee.
21:20
I'll just say that much.
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And then came back to the table and kept eating.
21:22
And so I cleared room to come back so that I could eat more red meat.
21:25
So that's one story.
21:26
Really, really enjoyed that second story.
21:28
The first deer kill of my life in my mid twenties, a wind shot, a deer it snowed that morning.
21:36
And so got a deer.
21:37
This is the first time shooting a deer, cleaning a deer.
21:39
And we literally took the back strap from that buck.
21:42
And that's what we had for lunch.
21:45
And when the guy put it on the grill, like it, the, the meat's obviously still warm.
21:49
It was like, even like, you know, kind of spazzoming a little bit.
21:51
Cause I mean, we, this, this animal had just died.
21:53
We took it off.
21:54
And that's what we had for lunch.
21:55
But great.
21:56
He's vegan, buddy.
21:57
Make that.
21:58
Yeah.
21:59
No.
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He was not invited.
22:01
But my favorite meat story ever.
22:02
So I had this weird job back in 2012, I worked in the MLB fan cave.
22:06
And so they had like 22,000 people apply.
22:09
And you know, you had to be the super fan and you had to create content, you had to
22:12
watch every single game for the entire season.
22:14
And so I was one of the nine, nine people that was selected to go there.
22:17
So a bunch of players, you know, current players and all stars and legends and hall
22:21
famers and celebrities would come by and we would shoot content with them.
22:24
Well, that would usually coincide with who was in town to either play the Yankees or
22:27
the Mets.
22:28
And so the Royals are in town to play the Yankees.
22:31
And so a bunch of the Royals players at the time came by.
22:33
I remember Jeff right core came by Billy Butler came by and then George Brett came by.
22:38
Now George Brett walks in and he owns the room immediately.
22:43
We're in this big studio, a bunch of people on there and he just owns the room.
22:46
Big personality could not have been a nicer guy.
22:49
So he and I started striking up a conversation me and George Brett and we're just sitting
22:52
there chatting, chatting baseball and all that.
22:54
And then we started chatting about barbecue because obviously Kansas City Royals, you
22:56
know, he's from Kansas City, you know, Kansas City, barbecue, probably the best barbecue
23:00
of any particular place.
23:01
That's at least where I would put my, my stake in the ground.
23:04
And he goes, Hey, have y'all, y'all had any good barbecue in the city yet?
23:07
And I go, no, we, we haven't had any.
23:10
And the look on George Brett's face is like, wait, what?
23:14
True concern, like he's like, wait a minute, wait a minute.
23:18
Just so I'm clear, you've been in New York City for months and you have not found a good
23:22
barbecue spot.
23:23
I'm like, no, George Brett, I haven't found a good barbecue spot yet and he stops.
23:28
He's silent for a second, you can tell he's kind of calculating and then he goes, okay,
23:32
cool.
23:33
I'll fix that.
23:34
And I'm like, I don't know what that means, but okay, George Brett.
23:37
And so I shake his hand and he leaves and it's a great thing.
23:39
A week later, I get an email from George Brett and it's a YouTube link.
23:45
And I'm like, I think I'm getting catfish, but I'm clicking on it just in case.
23:48
So I click on it and it's him in Kansas City with a buddy named Mitch Benjamin, otherwise
23:53
known as meat, Mitch, and they are making ribs and burn ends.
23:57
They're like, man, you know, George Brett's like, man, I had such a great time at the
24:00
MLB fan cave.
24:01
You guys, because it was me and eight other cave dwellers is what they called us.
24:05
And it's like, y'all are so nice to us.
24:06
And I was just, when you told me, Kyle, that you had not had any good barbecue when you
24:11
were in, since you had been in New York, I found that to just be an absolute crime.
24:15
And so we're making up all these racks of ribs and these burnt ends.
24:18
We're sending them up to you.
24:20
So be looking out for another email with instructions.
24:22
And I am like, flabbergasted, like what?
24:26
Lo and behold, I get an email that says, this is when the ribs and burn ends are going to
24:31
be delivered.
24:33
All the barbecue sauce will be in a separate thing.
24:35
And at the time, I didn't know this, but this is meat, Mitch's barbecue sauce.
24:37
I think he's won the world championships of barbecue sauce twice with this sauce is
24:41
wamp sauce.
24:42
So shout out to meat, Mitch and the wamp sauce.
24:44
And that would have been enough, but you get a box in New York, you got these ribs.
24:48
He's got dry ass and he goes around the corner from the studio is this restaurant.
24:53
I've already contacted them, they're not open right now, but just go around to the back
24:57
door, back door, knock on the door, a guy named Vinny or whatever is going to open the door
25:00
for you.
25:01
They're going to have the oven ready to go.
25:03
They're going to warm up the ribs for you.
25:05
So just make sure you leave them in the foil and, you know, we'll take care of business.
25:08
So you guys can have Kansas City ribs sitting there in the middle of Manhattan.
25:11
Dude, I was like, like, what, what are you talking about that?
25:14
I was like, you're going to tell me the best barbecues in New York City, because I was
25:17
about to be, I was about to be like, defended, crap on that.
25:20
The answer is no.
25:21
Do you then fly it in from Kansas City fluid in from, I mean, we're talking like overnighted
25:26
in dry ice, but again, at any point, had he stopped the train of hospitality, it would
25:32
have been fine.
25:33
We would have figured out a way to warm them up.
25:34
We like rednecks, we probably would have put it in the, you know, microwave or something
25:37
like that.
25:38
But he's like, no, he went, this is a Hall of Famer.
25:42
This is a very well off man.
25:44
This is a guy that's very highly respected and a bunch of strangers like he made sure
25:48
to do this with.
25:50
I mean, I thought the story was over, but I remembered something.
25:51
So that year, the all-star game was in Kansas City.
25:55
So we go with Major League Baseball.
25:56
We're at the all-star game.
25:58
But the night before is the home run derby.
26:00
And so we're out in left field and, you know, kind of the area where a lot of the home run
26:03
balls are coming and everything like that.
26:05
And so who walks into our section?
26:07
George Brett and meet Mitch.
26:08
So I get to meet Mitch Benjamin for the first time.
26:10
It's like, oh, hugs and all that.
26:11
I can't believe you sent ribs.
26:12
They're so great, blah, blah.
26:13
And George like, hey, Kyle, great to see you again.
26:15
All right, man.
26:16
Enjoy yourself.
26:17
10 minutes later, platters of Kansas City ribs and barbecue came courtesy of meet Mitch
26:23
and George Brett.
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He didn't say they were coming.
26:26
They just showed up in our section.
26:27
Man, I've been to Kansas City a couple of times and I've gone to meet Mitch as, you know,
26:32
I picked up barbecue sauce when I was there.
26:33
But I actually took some people from work.
26:35
They were like, they went to go to this other barbecue place and I was like, no, you guys
26:38
tried to meet Mitch and they're like, no, I took him over there.
26:40
And they were like, dude, how do we not know about this place?
26:43
I was like, it's good.
26:44
And you, so he opened his first restaurant there called Char Bar and then he opened up
26:48
one here recently where it's just meet Mitch.
26:50
So Char Bar's more sit down on beyonds, but you're, you know, you're getting ribs and
26:54
burn ins, but there's also some really cool, you know, drinks and appetizers.
26:57
But meet Mitch, the actual meet Mitch restaurant, that is, you know, metal tray butcher paper,
27:02
how many pounds of this you want, you know, quarter pound of this camp around that.
27:05
And so shout out if you're ever in Kansas City.
27:07
I know what you're torturing me dinner is coming.
27:09
It's not going to be.
27:10
It's not your brisket though.
27:11
It's not my brisket. Yeah, you know what, but I'm sorry, maybe I should have done this
27:16
towards the end of this episode, but no, that's, that story is unbelievable.
27:19
And I don't doubt for a, for a second that the meal that you ate in New York was like
27:25
life changing, but the story, yeah, like, oh, yeah, meat could have been terrible and
27:29
I would have been like, these are the best roots of every eating like that's an unbelievable
27:33
bread ribs, unbelievable story.
27:35
Yeah.
27:36
I mean, cause you got to think that year I met, I mean, hundreds of current players, like,
27:40
you know, but it was just such a unique thing.
27:42
There's so few things like that where you could tell that somebody actually gave a crap
27:46
because some people are like, okay, I need to turn on the charm because cameras are rolling
27:49
and these, these people are going to be in these videos and I don't want to come off
27:52
looking like a [inaudible].
27:53
The only [inaudible] we met all year was Brandon Phillips.
27:54
He's an absolutely horrible, reprehensible, terrible human being.
27:59
You know what?
28:00
I'm calling Brandon Phillips out right now.
28:01
This is what Brandon Phillips said.
28:02
I straight up told MLB.
28:03
I was like, if any of these two guys come to the studio, make sure I'm not here because
28:06
I'm going to have a problem with it.
28:07
Brandon Phillips, Nigel Morgan.
28:08
I don't want to see those guys.
28:10
One was, is because Brandon Phillips got into a little kerfuffle with Yachty Ermalina.
28:15
It ended up ending the career of Jason LaRue because there was a big fight between the
28:20
Reds and the Cardinals and Johnny Quato ended up kicking Jason LaRue in the head with his
28:24
spikes.
28:25
He got such a bad concussion.
28:26
It ended his career and it started with Brandon Phillips, but Brandon Phillips is on the dock
28:30
to come.
28:31
It's like, I'm a professional.
28:32
This is my job.
28:33
You know, I'll just, you know, whatever, but he sees that I'm wearing cardinal stuff and
28:36
then he sees that I'm wearing a Yachty Ermalina jersey, which I wore on purpose, hoping that
28:39
he would say something a little bit, but then he, yeah, you know, just kind of instigating
28:44
a little bit.
28:45
And then he goes, Oh man, I'm going to rip that jersey off and wipe my butt with it.
28:49
And I was like, okay, all right, this is like right when he walks in.
28:53
So I'm like, I can't be around this guy.
28:55
I got to be on other parts of the studio and luckily I wasn't going to be in the video
28:58
with him.
28:59
It was going to be the two female cave dwellers.
29:01
Well, Brandon Phillips proceeds to, because it was supposed to be kind of a puffed piece
29:06
thing.
29:07
And the girls are like, Hey, Brandon, you have a lot of followers on Twitter and, you know,
29:09
we're building our Twitter profiles and things like that.
29:12
You know, what do you think that we should do to, you know, kind of get the same followership
29:15
and engagement that you do.
29:16
And he goes, show them your tits.
29:18
Sorry.
29:19
Anyone who's like watching that.
29:20
This is a man's podcast.
29:21
This is yeah.
29:22
It's a man's podcast.
29:23
So he goes, show him your tits.
29:24
And he thought it was hilarious and I heard it and I literally walked over to the MLB executive.
29:29
I'm like, if he doesn't get out of here right now, I'm going to flip out.
29:32
I'm going to absolutely flip out.
29:34
I cannot believe that y'all are just letting the cameras roll after you said that to these
29:38
two girls.
29:39
So unbelievably disrespectful, get him the hell out of here.
29:42
So he was the biggest [inaudible] that we had, you know, the entire time that we met.
29:47
But when you see someone that takes extra effort to remember people other than themselves,
29:51
another example that year was a Miguel Cabrera.
29:53
So Miguel Cabrera, one of the best players of this generation.
29:57
You could put him.
29:58
He's probably in the top 50 best players of baseball ever, argument for top 25, whatever.
30:03
This was the year he hit for the triple crown case of the triple crown hadn't been done.
30:06
So for non baseball fans, that's where you have in your league, the highest batting average,
30:11
most home runs and most RBIs all in the same season.
30:13
And it hadn't happened for like, it's mental 40 years or something like that before that.
30:17
Yeah.
30:18
And so this is a year that Miguel Cabrera did it.
30:20
So Miguel Cabrera comes in early in the season and he comes and he does his video, this goofy
30:25
video that we have him do and he meets all of us.
30:26
And this is Miguel Cabrera.
30:27
Like he literally meets people all the time, you know, like he's just that guy.
30:31
Well, then fast forward to the all-star game.
30:34
We all see him at all-star press day and he comes up to us and he's like, oh, Kyle, what's
30:38
up?
30:39
Thank cave.
30:40
And I'm like, this is really weird.
30:41
Like this guy's on an absolute heater.
30:42
Well, fast forward to the World Series that year.
30:44
The Cardinals blew a three one lead in the NLCS.
30:47
So I'm pretty sad that the Giants came back here.
30:49
We are going to the World Series and I can't see my Cardinals, but the World Series that
30:52
year was a Detroit Tigers who who Miguel Cabrera played for versus the San Francisco Giants.
30:57
And so we get to the World Series and we go to media day for the World Series.
31:00
We see Miguel Cabrera.
31:01
And what does he do?
31:02
I mean, in the middle of answering a question from another person goes, oh, Kyle, fan cave,
31:07
what's up?
31:08
And I'm just like, bro, you just hit for the triple crown and this is game three of the
31:11
World Series.
31:12
Why are you talking to me?
31:14
Like so it's just like it's cool to see guys like that that don't have to go out of their
31:18
way to make you feel special, especially because it's like, I'm not a kid.
31:21
Like I don't have cancer.
31:22
Like I'm not like a, you know, someone that you have to, you know, wear an arm band and
31:26
represent it.
31:27
Hey, I'm going to hit a home run for you.
31:28
I'm just a dude doing a job and you go out of your way to make me feel special.
31:31
It's like, dude, shout out, Miguel Cabrera screw Brandon Phillips forever.
31:35
I'm not bitter.
31:36
I'm not bitter.
31:37
Y'all judge me all you want to kind of have that same story with Bob Stoops.
31:41
Okay.
31:42
Well, we're in story time of the show.
31:43
So let's talk about Bob Stoops.
31:45
Bob, my dad was doing a golf tournament with a golf event with Reggie White and Keith
31:49
Jackson.
31:50
I think it was like 17 at the time, uh, I have alopecia.
31:52
So that's why I don't have any hair.
31:54
I've been bald since I was like 14 years old.
31:56
And so, um, my job basically at this thing is just to pick up players and bring them to
32:00
this golf tournament.
32:01
And so finally get down and doing that, they get the scramble going and Bob Stoops comes
32:07
over and starts talking to me, just talk to me for like 45 minutes, ask me a lot about
32:11
myself and everything.
32:12
I was like, man, Bob Stoops is like the nicest guy I ever met.
32:15
And then I hear other people.
32:16
They'll be like, man, Bob Stoops was like not a nice guy.
32:18
And I was like, dude, I have a different experience.
32:20
This guy was really nice.
32:21
And like, the other guy popped up and he was like, yeah, like Bob Stoops will go after
32:26
each game and go sit at like, uh, at Sooners Cancer Ward with kids, the children's hospital,
32:32
the children's hospital with cancer kids and just hang out with him and like he would make
32:35
players do it.
32:36
He would do it.
32:37
No cameras.
32:38
No, no cameras.
32:39
No, nothing.
32:40
And then I thought about it.
32:41
And I was like, [inaudible].
32:42
He thought.
32:43
Oh, man.
32:44
Yeah.
32:45
I was like, uh, bro, talk to me because I look like I didn't do, I didn't sense the twist
32:49
at the end there.
32:50
I didn't sense it until like almost like 20 years later, man.
32:53
And I was like, but I heard that you might be a [inaudible], but he just thought you were
32:57
a cancer.
32:58
Yes.
32:59
Yeah.
33:00
He was dead the whole time.
33:01
He's like, oh, man, he's probably like, oh, he's going to watch this and be like that.
33:10
Dude, I'll pay share.
33:11
Yeah.
33:12
I wasted 45 minutes of my time.
33:13
No, he's not going to be like, oh, man, good for Ryan.
33:15
He's still that.
33:18
That is fantastic.
33:19
Well, guys, we do get paid by the verse.
33:20
So we probably need to get back into acts 10 here.
33:23
So I don't know who read last.
33:24
So whoever wants to pick this up, Winkler, you're getting pointed out.
33:27
So it's going to be you.
33:28
Let's hit 17 through 33.
33:30
Now, while Peter was inwardly perplexed as to what the vision that he had seen might
33:36
mean, behold, the men who were sent by Cornelius having made inquiry for Simon's house stood
33:41
at the gate and called out to ask whether Simon who was called Peter was lodging there.
33:46
And while Peter was pondering the vision, the spirit said to him, behold, three men are
33:51
looking for you, rise and go down and accompany them without hesitation for I have sent them.
33:58
And Peter went down to the man and said, I am the one you are looking for.
34:02
What is the reason for your coming?
34:03
And they said Cornelius, a centurion, an upright and God-fearing man who is well spoken of
34:08
by the whole Jewish nation was directed by a holy angel to send for you to come to his
34:14
house and to hear what you have to say.
34:17
So he invited them in to be his guests.
34:20
The next day he rose and went away with them.
34:22
And some of the brothers from Japa accompanied him.
34:26
And on the following day, they entered Caesarea.
34:29
Cornelius was expecting them and called together his relatives and close friends.
34:33
When Peter entered, Cornelius met them and fell down to his feet and worshiped him.
34:38
But Peter lifted him up saying, stand up, I too am a man.
34:42
And he talked with him.
34:43
He went in and found many persons gathered.
34:46
And he said to them, you yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with
34:52
or to visit anyone of another nation.
34:55
But God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean.
35:00
So when I was sent for, I came without objection.
35:03
I asked then why you sent for me.
35:06
And Cornelius said four days ago about this hour, I was praying in my house at the ninth
35:11
hour and behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing and said, Cornelius your prayer
35:16
has been heard and your alms have been remembered before God.
35:20
Send therefore to Japa and ask for Simon who is called Peter.
35:24
He is lodging in the house of Simon at Tanner by the sea.
35:28
So I sent for you at once and you have been kind enough to come.
35:31
Now therefore, we are all here in the presence of God to hear all that you have been commanded
35:37
by the Lord.
35:39
So a very important section there.
35:41
If we can go back to verse 23, Ryan, you mentioned this actually earlier on this episode.
35:46
So he invited them in to be his guests.
35:48
This seems like a throwaway line, but it is so, so unbelievably important because Jews
35:52
at this time did not welcome Gentiles into their home.
35:56
So just by virtue of the fact that he extended an invitation, he certainly extended way more
35:59
than that as well.
36:01
Yeah.
36:02
Great point, Kyle.
36:03
You nailed it.
36:04
Let's move on.
36:05
So all right.
36:06
I'll move on to my next point.
36:07
You freaking jerks.
36:08
Where Peter lifted him up saying stand up, I am to a man like most of us, and I would
36:15
certainly include myself in that the temptation for hero worship for people that, you know,
36:20
are like slobbering on you or like treating you like you're different.
36:25
It's got to be enticing.
36:26
And I love what what Joby has said about this before because, you know, obviously he runs
36:30
a big church.
36:31
He's written two fantastic books.
36:32
He's got a third one coming out this year.
36:35
And, you know, his profile is really exploding and expanded, but not because he's buying
36:39
ads on Instagram and not because he's, you know, trying to, you know, go speak it all
36:43
the right conferences.
36:44
So more people will take selfies with him like he's just a dude that's actually being
36:47
a pastor that just happens to be doing a really good job.
36:50
And God is, you know, showing favor to him and his ministry.
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So when people come up to him and start, you know, heaping praise upon him, he's very
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big about just saying, Hey, thank you so much for saying that as opposed to being like,
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man, you're right.
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I am awesome.
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Like this is incredible.
37:06
And he tries to be like, I'm just a dude.
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I'm just a dude.
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I'm just a dude.
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And guess what?
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After he preaches on Sunday, he spends time with the family drives out to the retreat center
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that they have for church of 11 22 and he wakes up in a, in a, in goes to a deer blind in
37:21
the dark on Monday morning and he sits there with his Bible app open and he says, God,
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they're your sheep.
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I'm just a shepherd.
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What do you want to say to your sheep?
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It's pretty awesome.
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That's, that's humility right there.
37:31
So I've totally stolen that people are giving me compliments about the show or about something
37:35
that I've done, a speech that I've done and it's like, man, thank you so much for saying
37:38
that.
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And the other thing that I try to do whenever people, you know, come up to me, because I've
37:43
even done some zoom calls here really soon, people like, dude, I'm like, starstruck to
37:46
even talk to you.
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I'm like, man, you can stop with all that.
37:48
I'm going to turn my camera off so you don't, so you can't look at me just like being goofy,
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but I'll ask them.
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And I always say this, I try to ask six questions about the other person before I will answer
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one about myself.
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And so it's like, dude, how, you know, if they come to one of my speeches, like, dude, you
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know, who brought you here?
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Did you, did you come by yourself or were you invited?
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Oh, sir.
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Are you from around this area?
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Okay.
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Well, you know, what about the talk was even interesting for, for you to want to show up?
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Do you go to this church or do you go?
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You just kind of like, cause I'm showing genuine interest in them.
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I have to listen to their answers so that I can formulate my next question.
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But that's a good thing that Peter is showing us how to do here.
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And he's modeling it.
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You do that to me.
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The first time I met you in ABF.
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Did I?
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Yeah.
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You just kept asking me questions.
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But I had to say moment when, you know, a couple of weeks back, we had Chandler on.
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And so I got up here.
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I was the first one up and Chandler was sitting, I think right where Winkler was sitting.
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No, I had to sit there.
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He was just sitting there, but um, he, I go, man, this is on my bucket list.
38:43
He's like, you need a new bucket list, bro.
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I was like, I was like, and then this jerk like throws me under the bus later that night,
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or was it my wife?
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I don't know who was.
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Yeah, it was me.
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Yeah, it was you.
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Yeah, he goes, yeah, that guy didn't like you.
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Yeah.
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We're all hanging out.
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I'm like, Chandler, I'm like, yeah, the dude over there.
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He didn't like you.
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He was not a fan.
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He had to be converted into being a fan.
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And you were just like, Kyle, why did you say that?
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Because you always get on me.
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You're like, try not to fight with them the first 20 minutes you meet them.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's what you did with Joby.
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And it's like, God, you can't take you fricking anywhere, can I?
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Well, but it can kind of feed the monster, right?
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Like this guy, you know, you got Chandler sitting here and he's all humble.
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And it's like, oh, no, I like you even more.
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Like, right?
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You're who you need to be later and actually see like, Herod using compliments for his
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own political and we see what we see what happens when you do that.
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Spoiler alert.
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No, I'm just kidding.
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So I think the one of the other things that Joby talks about is I like the, you know,
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the thank you is great and all that's necessary.
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Sometimes we'll have somebody.
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It's like, okay, we'll hold man.
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That was amazing.
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The speech.
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You know, that was amazing.
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John is like, you know, that was not me.
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That was just a Holy Spirit working through me, you know, and, and it's almost a false
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humility.
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Yeah.
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And I also, it's weird and I would also say, I mean, I think it's, it's almost a disservice.
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I mean, when people are coming up to pay you a compliment on something that you've done,
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and then you're just like, you know what, while all credit does go to God, let's be
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clear, for you to verbalize, well, all credit goes to God here.
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I mean, it's not me at all.
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It's the Holy Spirit speaking through me on the other side of that coin is this person
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who just complimented you and they're going, man, when is the Holy Spirit going to do something
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like that for me?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Or, or they start looking at their gifts because gifts are not a difference in their level
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and important.
40:38
They're difference in their level of sexy.
40:39
And so if you have the gift of like singing or something like that, that's a sexy skill,
40:43
but then you have other people that have the gift of organization.
40:46
And so the fact that there were even chairs in that room for y'all to sit in, like during
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that service, thanks somebody who's fricking organized and can like look at a building
40:55
and know exactly how many chairs need to be in a row, the logistics person, those types
40:58
of people.
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And so yeah, when you, when you're up on stage that, that's what I tell people all the time,
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I'm like, don't treat me any different just because I'm up on stage with the microphone
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on my face wearing all black like that doesn't make me different.
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That's just my job.
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It's like your job is very, very important and you were put in a particular place at
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a particular time to do a particular thing for the mission of God's work here on this
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planet.
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My job just happens to be a little bit different.
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The fact that you tune into me on your phone doesn't make me more special than you.
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Okay.
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And like that's just a very important thing for people.
41:25
But you know, it also comes to us and Ryan, I'll get you in here just a second, but also
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it's incumbent upon us to not worship other people as well, where we build these preachers
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up in our minds or we build these singers up in our minds or these athletes or whatever.
41:39
And then when they're not exactly as we expect them to be, we're disappointed or that was
41:44
the thing I realized working with Major League Baseball is like, Oh, mostly these guys are
41:46
just dudes.
41:47
These are dudes with an unbelievable skill set and they make a ridiculous amount of
41:51
money to play a child's game.
41:53
But they're just dudes.
41:54
A lot of the guys would come hang out like they would play and then we would watch all
41:59
the games.
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And so the West Coast games didn't start until 10 o'clock Eastern.
42:03
So guys would get done playing the Mets or the Yankees.
42:05
And then like the entire bullpen would come hang out the fan cave because it was the only
42:09
place where there wouldn't be fans where they didn't have to worry about people taking pictures
42:12
or asking for autographs because we weren't allowed to do that there.
42:15
So they would just come and chill.
42:16
We'd order pizza and you know, just kind of hang out.
42:18
And so just treat people like they are, which is just people.
42:21
They may have a unique job, but they're just people.
42:23
And that's a great point.
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Cause I just want to bring up like we treat these people, we put them up on a pedestal,
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but they're not going to be perfect.
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Yeah.
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And when they fall and when they fall, you can't let your salvation go with it.
42:33
So you've got to know that you got to be securing your salvation and who your first love is,
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which is Christ.
42:38
And then these people are just there to hopefully disciple you along the way.
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So for sure.
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For sure.
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Let's keep back 10 rolling.
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So Ryan, I think you are up.
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Let's do 30, 34 through 43.
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Okay.
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So Peter opened his mouth and said, truly, I understand that the, that God shows no partiality,
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but in every nation, anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.
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As for the word that he sent to Israel, preaching good news of peace through Jesus Christ,
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he is Lord of all, you yourselves know what happened throughout all Judea, beginning from
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Galilee after the baptism that John proclaimed, how God anointed Jesus in the Azeroth with
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the Holy Spirit and with power.
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He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil for God was with
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him.
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And we are witnesses of all that.
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He did both in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem.
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They put him to death by hanging him on a tree, but God raised him on the third day
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and made him to appear, not to all the people, but to those of us who had been chosen by
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God's as a witness who ate and drank with him and who rose after he rose from the dead.
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And he commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is one, he is the one
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appointed by God to be judge of the living and the dead, to him, all the prophets bear
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witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.
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Okay.
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So we don't, we don't have all the time in the world to really dig into this, but this
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section, I'll admit was a little bit confusing for me.
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So when you go back to verse 34, so Peter opened his mouth and said, truly, I understand
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that God shows no partiality.
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And then in the margins I wrote, except to his elect, or what about the Israelites?
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But in literally later on in verse 41, not to all the people, but to us who had been chosen
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by God as witnesses.
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And so inherently in these comments, and even in just the narrative of the Old Testament
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and up to this point, as we see in the New Testament, it seems very clearly that God
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does show partiality.
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So I'm not trying to be heretical and say, well, I am on Peter.
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He's talking out of both sides of his mouth here, but it just was confusing to me.
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So he shows no partiality, partiality is because the Jews were the chosen people.
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And so if you were, if you were not a Jew, the Jews viewed you as somebody who was unclean
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and that God would never touch.
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And so now that he's bringing Gentiles in shows that he is, he shows no partiality.
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And so when he says it, he goes, truly understand that God shows no partiality.
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But in every nation, every nation, anyone who fears him and does what is right, does what
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is right and is acceptable to him.
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See, I take this a different, I mean, and maybe this is what you meant.
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So I'm looking at it when he says he shows no partiality.
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I think he's talking about his judgment.
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I don't know if he's because to me, it's not like why chose Israel and then I changed
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my mind and now the Gentiles are in.
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To me, when they talk about not showing partiality, it's I show no partiality in my judgment.
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Essentially God, God judges everyone the exact same way that his justice is universal.
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Yeah, his justice, his justice is universal, but his righteousness isn't expand.
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I don't understand.
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So like this is truly like, so, so you talk about the elect, okay?
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Really I understand that God has shows no partiality, you're talking about his judgment.
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So he's going to judge sinners no matter what.
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So what happened is through Christ, he, Christ is a propitiation of our sin.
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So the Jews would think that Christ and the Messiah or the second coming that Isaiah talks
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about is only for the Jews, but it's not true.
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He's for the world, just like John 3 16, for God so loved the world, he gave his only son.
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And so the world is everybody outside the Jews, Gentiles are the world.
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Because the Jews viewed themselves as a chosen people is still not making any sense.
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I get your point, but that it's not quite landed with with how you know Gentiles are
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the world.
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They're right.
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They're everything outside the Jews.
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So the Jews viewed, so Peter would have viewed Gentiles as unclean that God was never going
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to save them.
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Right.
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So you're looking at this in a Calvinist lens and you shouldn't look at it in a Calvinist
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lens.
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You should look at it as Peter is a Jew who believes everything outside of Judaism is unclean.
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But he's saying God shows no partiality, so God shows no partiality based upon Jew and
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Gentile anymore.
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Not anymore.
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Again, I would say, I don't think it's in any more statement because I would say, does
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God change?
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True Christ.
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God doesn't change, but the righteousness was done like so we look back at Abraham and
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we look back at everybody.
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They were saved by their belief.
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Okay.
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So now we have Christ Jesus who is now the propitiation of our sins.
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So not only he didn't just die for the Jews, even though throughout the Old Testament, Messiah
47:57
was there for the Jews.
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And so that's what was said to them.
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And so now what he's saying now is that the Messiah is for everyone.
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That's where John 3 16 comes in that for God's love the world, he gave his only son.
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He gave his son for not only the Jews, but the Gentiles as well.
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Yeah.
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So I'm, I'm, I'm tracking with, with Ryan here, you know, I'm, I'm looking at two different
48:18
translations of 34, one saying Peter, Peter says, of a truth I perceive, which is kind
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of like I'm, I'm understanding differently, right?
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He's perceiving.
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And then this other one says, I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism,
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right?
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So it's like Peter's awareness of what God's plan now is, right?
48:40
Like it's, okay, that makes sense.
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Like the Messiah isn't just for the Jews.
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So like if you, if you go back and look at who they're preaching to him, we'll even go
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in this and other chapters, but they go and preach to the Jews.
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And then you're going to see in the other chapters that while they're preaching to the
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Jews, there's the Greeks that start listening and they start, God starts opening their eyes
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to what they're hearing.
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And so they become believers.
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And so basically what God is saying here is that we always view the Gentiles as unclean.
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They are no longer unclean.
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I show no partiality.
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It's almost kind of like he needs to justify like I'm this, like I'm a Jewish guy in Cornelius's
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house and they're all going to, and I need to start this conversation by going, okay,
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so here's why I'm here.
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The other thing is too is now when we kind of miss this, when we went back, we didn't
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go to in depth on Peter's dream.
49:30
But in Peter's dream, it's showing that Christ gets rid of, or Christ pretty much is a perpetuation
49:35
for ceremonial law.
49:37
God's moral law is still there.
49:38
The 10 commandments are still there because that is God's true nature.
49:42
That is, that is where God stands.
49:44
But the ceremonial law, which clearated uncleanliness, which the Gentiles would have been viewed
49:48
as uncleanly because they didn't follow those laws, well, they don't need to anymore because
49:52
the Jews don't need to anymore because of Christ.
49:55
And now Christ has opened up for them to have a way to the father.
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So yours, would it be fair to say that you're saying the statement about God showing no
50:03
partiality stops short of election?
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I mean, I don't view, to be honest, I didn't sit here and view election and want to talk
50:12
election when I was making my notes here.
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But I mean, this is something we can go and talk back further, not like other times.
50:19
We've never talked about it before.
50:22
So let's peel off the band.
50:23
But I mean, like, I wasn't thinking election when I'm reading this.
50:26
But like, you know, God does chose, he chose certain people that were going to be there.
50:31
Christ chose who he was going to talk to.
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So the main subject of this is now the Gentiles are being etched into the tree.
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That's what the main subject is isn't like, Hey, I've elected these Gentiles.
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These are the only Gentiles I'm going to elect.
50:45
Does election play a process?
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In my mind, yes, it does, you know, later on, but that's not the point he's trying to make
50:50
right now.
50:51
That's why I'm asking if you think this statement stops short of the discussion of election
50:55
because obviously within now that, okay, great.
50:58
We bridge the gap between Jew and Gentile bridge gapped for forever because the propitiation
51:02
of our sin debt via Jesus on the cross, but God certainly, at least in Calvinist theology
51:07
in parlance does show partiality because he only is going to say the people he wants.
51:12
Well, he shows partiality anyways, because if whether you believe him or not, he's not
51:15
going to save you.
51:16
So if I'm going to go off of your, your thought of free will, well, he's still showing partiality
51:21
because you're using your free will not to believe in him.
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And so is that really wrong?
51:25
Is he showing partiality because you choose not to believe in him?
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So he's not going to let you into heaven.
51:30
You know, like you could still make a case for partiality there.
51:34
The, the case that I'm making is partiality, there's like partiality before it even comes
51:39
to my decision because a Calvinist would say, well, no, you don't decide you're, you're
51:43
either elected, you like God for new.
51:46
And that's the problem with most of the hang up with the count of theology is this.
51:49
There's a difference between foreknowledge and forcing of something.
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Did God foresee and foreknow that when he sent Christ, he was going to save Gentiles?
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Yes.
51:58
I believe that.
51:59
I believe it was predestined.
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And that's what you want to hear.
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I think that the passage and this, the specifics of this passage here has nothing to do about
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predestination and everything to show how Gentiles are being etched in to God's promise.
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What about verse 35?
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But in every nation, anyone who fears him and does what his right is acceptable.
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So every nation, so what was the Jewish people?
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What were the Jews?
52:21
Were they a nation?
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Yes or no?
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At that time?
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Yes.
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No.
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Jews were a nation.
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Not at that time.
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Yes, they were.
52:30
They were conquered by the Romans.
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Well, they were conquered by the Romans, but they were still their own nation.
52:33
And so they viewed themselves as a nation.
52:35
They still lived under a theocracy.
52:36
They had the Sadducees.
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They were.
52:38
They had the Pharisees.
52:39
They were a people.
52:40
But there was not a Jewish nation.
52:41
But the Jewish nation.
52:42
They may not be a nation in the fact that they had a piece of land and were a nation.
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They viewed themselves as a nation and everything outside of their nation was Gentile.
52:53
And so what he's saying is, Jews are just not the, they're not the only nation anymore.
52:59
I am now opening this up to all nations.
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God has nothing to do with election.
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You sure?
53:06
I didn't read it and want to go into a Calvinist argument with you guys on this.
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And so I was not prepared.
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You're always ready.
53:14
But I try to get you when you're not prepared.
53:16
It's more fun.
53:17
You always try to give you an hour prepared and then you sit me with all the Armenian guys.
53:20
No, I don't think anybody would put their self in that cap, but you were giving you an
53:23
opportunity to learn how to calm yourself and just have a discussion with people that
53:27
just having a discussion.
53:28
Remember last time we had a discussion like this, you like powdered and ran and like
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he said.
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Yeah.
53:33
And then you're like, I don't want to go back.
53:34
I quit the forging table.
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I almost did.
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Yeah.
53:37
I don't want, I don't want to redirect.
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That was me.
53:39
I don't want to redirect everybody's ire here, but I agree.
53:42
I read it the same way.
53:43
The right thing.
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Oh, how dare you.
53:45
I get out of here.
53:46
It's not a cabinet.
53:47
So I quit the forging table, but I don't want to, I don't want to like bury the headline
53:52
here.
53:53
Cause when I'm reading this, I'm picturing Cornelius and his family and they're listening to Peter
53:59
recount his, you know, he's telling his story of what he witnessed.
54:04
And can you imagine like the jaws in that room just being on the ground?
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Yeah.
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I'm, I mean, I'm tracking with what you're saying.
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I'm just, you know, you just like to give me a hard time.
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I do.
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It's all good.
54:16
I mean, I like to get me a word.
54:17
Hold on.
54:18
I should say I'm tracking with what you're saying now, basically it's more like as Dagan
54:21
was putting it.
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It's more like Peter coming to this realization, not necessarily that he is speaking for God.
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It's more of a, but he is speaking for God, but, but he's, but he's, he's, he's explaining.
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Hey, I'm here.
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Right.
54:36
Because, because I now realize that you were part of God's plan of why Jesus came and then
54:41
let me tell you about what happened.
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But these are the first Gentile converts.
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Yeah.
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Like literally like he, Christ, like first Gentiles to be baptized came to, to Paul in the earlier
54:52
chapter and chapter nine and said, and he told Ananias, you're going to be my vessel
54:57
to the Gentiles.
54:58
And so now Peter is opening up the Gentiles.
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My area, he's opening his mind to the Gentiles because again, I think somebody brought up
55:05
the fact that he was Jewish and he was under kind of his like own Jewish traditions and
55:09
everything.
55:10
So like, you know, he has to change his mind on a lot of things too.
55:14
And this is how God's, you know, having him repent on his partiality because beforehand,
55:20
like he said to God in the dream, Oh, I don't, I don't eat, I don't eat unclean or uncommon
55:24
things.
55:25
And if you use the Gentiles as uncommon as dirty.
55:29
And so that's where he's trying to say, Hey, if they believe in me, no matter what nation
55:34
they are, I'm here for them.
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No, I get it.
55:37
All right.
55:38
Well, let's wrap up here at the very end.
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I just wanted to make sure that we could get a Ryan all hopped up on adrenaline and nothing
55:44
else.
55:45
So good, good to see.
55:46
And we can always see because of the redness, just cross your chest and everything like
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that.
55:50
Let's wrap up acts 10.
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Let's do 44 through 48.
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Are you up?
55:53
Begin? I got it.
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All right.
55:57
44 through 48.
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Well, Peter was still speaking these words.
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The Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message, the circumcised believers who had
56:04
come with Peter were astonished that gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even
56:09
on Gentiles for they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God.
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Then Peter said, surely no one can stand in the way of their being baptized with water.
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They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have.
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So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
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Then they asked Peter to stay with them for a few days.
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So interesting thing about that again, you know, we added chapters and verses later to
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make it more readable and more, you know, accessible and referenceable.
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But I feel like this section, you know, foreshadows a little bit of chapter 11 and certainly foreshadows
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Galatians two where Peter, you know, started showing favoritism to the Judaizers and, you
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know, it was like, Hey, yeah, yeah, you know, Christ and all that.
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But also, yeah, get circumcised and, you know, follow the law and do all those different things.
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And so anything on this last section before we wrap up, I think we can talk about that
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next week.
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If we want to go back to this.
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Yeah, we can hit that next week.
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I think that'd be a good thing to talk about.
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The only thing I had is, is from what I was reading, this is about 10 years after Jesus
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is death.
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Okay.
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So 10 years after Jesus died, Peter's still holding on to this Old Testament law about,
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you know, so it just really hit me like, man, God is a really patient teacher.
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And we should be more like that.
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Right.
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I'm so impatient with people.
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So impatient.
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And this is Peter, right?
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And like, and, and it took 10 years to go through, you know, for Peter to get to this
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point where the Gentiles were part of it, right?
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And we're seeing this with Peter.
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And then when we get into chapter 11, we're going to see it with the Jewish Christians
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of the church.
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Like he's going to go back and tell him this story and watch like the reaction the first
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time that you see the reaction after.
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It's pretty cool.
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Well, guys, that's your trailer for next week.
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