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This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.
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But I say to you, do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek,
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turn to him the other also. That is Matthew 533, the words of Jesus. Guys, thanks so much for being
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of this year. And on into 2023, just had a conversation today about a speaking gig at the end of 2023.
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So we're actually very, very excited about that. I hope to talk to you guys more about that here
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before too long. But if you would like me to come speak live at your event or on your podcast,
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just shoot me an email to info@undaunted.life, or you can go to undaunted.life/speaking. That
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will be in the show notes. Guys, this is the first episode that I'm recording after Memorial Day.
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So just a quick word about Memorial Day. Obviously, I do the Murph every Memorial Day. That's a big deal
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for me to just, you know, pay homage to Lieutenant Michael Murphy, and to also everyone in that
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greater community that has lost their life when they were downrange. And it's a very important time
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for us as Americans to understand that it's about way more than just a day off. You know,
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I put this in our Instagram post, you can go back to the Instagram post from that day,
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because I found a picture of a young boy who is maybe four or five years old in a full dress
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uniform, I think it was a marine uniform. And he's there, you know, hugging his dad's tombstone,
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looked to be at Arlington National Cemetery, looks like, you know, the widow was there,
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you know, sitting there crying and it's just that's what that day is about. It's about way more than
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burgers and beer and, you know, having fun with your friends. And it's about those things as well.
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But it's a very important day for us in our country. And we got to make sure that we continue to
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support those families as we move forward into the future. Now, guys, today, we're not going to be
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doing a quick hitter segment, because we actually don't, we won't have the time today to really
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get into any quick hitters. And, you know, the quick hitters just felt a bit odd to add anything
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to what we're going to be talking about today, because there's going to be a lot of gravity
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to the episode and what we're going to be talking about, because we're obviously going to need to
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spend some time talking about what happened last week in Yuvaldi, Texas. And now the thing is, is,
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like I've said before on the show, there are sometimes when something happens, and I immediately
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want to launch in and talk about it like immediately, like within the hour. And then there's other
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times where I kind of want to sit back, let the dust settle and understand what's going on before
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I comment on it. So I did that with this Yuvaldi thing. So by the time you hear this, this will
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be about nine days after the event actually took place. But there's been a lot of things that have
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changed. And so I'm glad I kind of took this time. Now, one thing I do want to address here,
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because a lot of people are talking about this, some are using it to virtue signal, some are just
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using it by way of announcement. We've made the decision here at Undaunted Life that whenever there
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is a situation like what we saw in Yuvaldi, Texas, when we talk about the situation, we will use
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the killer's name. Okay. So there are a lot of places, you know, you very prominently like the
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daily wire, you know, making Kelly's talks about this, some other places on the blaze,
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where they won't use the killer of the mass murderer's name, because they don't want to elevate that
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person's profile. And I understand where they're coming from. I just feel like I feel differently
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about it, because a lot of these people that do these things, they don't always have this over
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inflated view of themselves. And I don't mean the people that are saying they're not going to use
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the names. I mean, the actual people that are perpetrating these crimes, you know, there's a lot
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of these people that don't, they don't really have this desire for their name to live on. Some of them
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do, but a lot of them don't. And I would argue that most of the people that perpetrate these crimes
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are just fine being referred to as, you know, the Yuvaldi, Texas school shooter, or, you know,
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the Columbine high school shooter or something like that. I don't really necessarily think these
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people are wanting their names to live on because in a lot of these cases, we do forget their names.
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And the thing is, is we don't do that with like famous serial killers. You know what I mean? Like,
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you know, we say Unabomber and we say Ted Kaczynski, like we use both of their names.
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And that just kind of proves my point. Like we know more people know Unabomber than they know
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Ted Kaczynski. It's an easier thing for people to remember. But also when a specific terrorist group,
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right, like Al-Qaeda or, you know, ISIS or Boca Haram or something like that, when they do a terrorist
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attack of some kind and kill a bunch of people, these same news outlets don't say, you know,
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an extremist group, and then just leave it at that, they give the specific event, right? Or they give
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the specific group. So I don't know why we would, you know, do that for individual, you know,
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mass killers and not, you know, terrorist groups or something like that. So, you know, that's just
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kind of my thing. Now, the mainstream media and social media will allow for the recognition of
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these people regardless where I think most mainstream media companies and social media companies go
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wrong is publishing manifestos, you know, linking to live stream videos of the killings, which we've
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seen, you know, I remember seeing one about the shooting in Buffalo. I remember seeing one about
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the shooting that was in New Zealand. And those are things that probably shouldn't be out there
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and shouldn't be things that you should allow to be shared on your, on your platform. So for
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today's podcast, guys, I want you to make sure that you stick with us to the end, because there,
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there are a lot of things that we have to go into. So I'll get started before too long. I did just
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kind of need to set the scene for a lot of these things. On today's episode, we're going to talk
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about the details of the massacre. As we best understand them, to this point, I'm recording this
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a day before this is coming out, my personal thoughts on the matter, the immediate reactions we saw
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from all sides on this issue. And then I'm going to do a big time myth versus reality section,
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which I think is going to be very, very important for you guys to understand a lot of myths around
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mass murders and gun violence here in the United States. I'm going to go through the most common
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stupid ideas on how to lower gun violence in America. And then also, I'm going to do a section
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where we talk about how we can actually stop future school shootings. And then we're going to
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wrap up with what the Bible has to say about self defense. Guys, a lot of ground to cover,
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cover, but a lot of great information. And also just for any of you guys that have been listening
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from the very beginning, back in 2018, I think it's from February 2018, very, very early on in
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the show. I did an entire episode on gun violence. And this was right after the shooting in Parkland,
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Florida, that's episode 10 of this podcast. I'll make sure that's in the show notes. I think that
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episode stands up pretty well. To time, I think in that episode, I, you know, I was imprecise on
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how I talked about the definition of assault weapons, because assault weapons is not technically a
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category. There's not a legal definition of what that thing is. You know, I was kind of colloquially
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saying that it's like, it's a weapon that can go into full auto, you know, that type of a thing.
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But for the most part, I really stand by everything that was said in episode 10. So I'll make sure that
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I give that to you guys. So let's go ahead and get into the details of what happened in Youvaldi
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last week. Now, guys, I'm about to go through the timeline. Okay. And you might be tempted to
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skip past this because you think you understand the timeline or that you know the timeline,
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or maybe it's going to seem a bit laborious to you. But it's very, very important because we're
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going to be talking a lot about specifics that came out of the timeline. And we really, really
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need to understand the timeline. Now, as I was preparing for this episode, the timelines that I
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was doing the research on were all over the place, depending upon which entity or which group you
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went to, the timeline was a little bit different. And, you know, I was trying to like, you know,
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piece together timelines from a bunch of different places. But then I found that over at louder with
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Crowder. So that Stephen Crowder show, his research team did a really good job of getting
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together and kind of putting together a timeline that used a bunch of different sources. So sources
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from CBS from the New York Times, Texas Tribune, the Guardian, Twitter, YouTube, Newsweek, and the
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Washington Post. And so I'm going to be using their timeline. And I'll link to it here in the
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episode notes as well. And this is the entire timeline of the event. And this was last updated
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on May the 31st. So if something changes in the next few days before you listen to this, just know
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this was recorded and updated on May the 31st. So let's get into the timeline here. At approximately
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11am, the shooter posted a on Facebook that he was going to shoot his grandmother. And then he did
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so and then he fled in his grandmother's truck. The grandmother called 911. That was the first
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call to 911 concerning the situation. At approximately 11 15am, the shooter posted on Facebook has
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planned to shoot up a school at 11 27am. There was video that showed a door to the school had
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been propped open and it was actually propped open by a teacher. One minute later at 11 28am,
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the shooter crashes truck near the school. A teacher saw the crash and went inside to call 911.
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That was a second 911 shooting. And they and she also left the door open when she did that.
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There were two nearby men that approached the vehicle until they saw the arm suspect.
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The gunman did fire at these men, but neither of these men were injured. A couple minutes later,
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at 11 30am, 911 was called again and the crash was reported. And the name of the teacher currently
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is being covered anonymously in reports probably because she left the door open. At 11 31, police
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arrived, but didn't initially see the gunman. The gunman proceeded to shoot at the school from
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behind cars in the parking lot. Now at 11 33, the gunman entered the school through the door that
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was left open by the teacher. He proceeded to fire more than 100 rounds and entered into either
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room 111 or 112. And we know he fired that many rounds because there was available audio from
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that occurrence. And earlier reports stated that the gunman was initially met and engaged by the
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school resource officer, but this information was later proven false. The school resource officer
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was not on campus at the time that the killer started his rampage at 11 35 three officers
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entered the school building through the same door. They briefly exchanged fire with the shooter.
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Two of these officers were grazed. Four more officers entered the school building soon thereafter.
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And at some point between the first shots and the second burst of shots, code black was announced
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in the cafeteria, but employees reported employees of the school reported that they didn't even know
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what code black meant. Okay, so that's a massive message, massive issue. A couple minutes later,
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11 37 a.m. The gunman fired 16 more rounds at 11 43, the school broadcast it over Facebook that
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they were in lockdown at 11 51 a.m. More police arrived on site at 11 54 parents and police gathered
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outside the building. Cops during this period of time, they pepper sprayed and cuffed some
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parents that were employing them screaming at them, yelling at them to go inside and try and save
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these kids. And there was actually a mom there. This is a pretty famous story from all this nonsense.
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A mom was actually put on the ground and handcuffed. She managed to talk her way out of the handcuffs
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by talking to another police officer that I think she knew. And then she apparently hopped
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a fence, went inside the school got her kids and got the hell out of there. I mean, just gangster,
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mama bear moment for her. Then at 12 O three p.m. Approximately 19 officers were inside the
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school at this time. There were 3911 calls that were made from inside the classroom by a female
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student. So this would be the third overall 911 call that came at 12 O three. Another one,
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the fourth came at 12 10. And then another one the fifth came at 12 13. The student reported
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multiple people were dead. At 12 11 an officer announced to parents that students were being
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moved to the nearby funeral home for you for reunification sorry at 12 15 p.m. Border Patrol
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tactical unit members began to arrive at 12 16 and 12 19 the same student dialed 911. So that is the
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sixth and seventh 911 calls by this point at 12 17. The school posted on Facebook that there was
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an active shooter at 12 21 the shooter began firing again possibly at the door at 12 30. The
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school announced on Facebook that reunification would be at the high school. So they moved reunification
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again shows that they didn't really have a great idea for what they would be doing. And when they
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should be doing it at 12 36 p.m. The female student from inside the classroom called 911 again. This
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is the eighth 911 call and was told to stay on the line at 12 43 and 12 47. She told them to send
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police now. So what's that's the ninth and 10th 911 calls at that point at 12 40 p.m. The school
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posted to Facebook to change the reunification location to the civic center. So that's the third
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different location for reunification for parents obviously not every parent was on Facebook. They
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didn't know this information. And then at 12 50 police finally got a key to unlock the door
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because they were apparently waiting on a key to get through the door. They opened the door and
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shot and killed the shooter. So reportedly the gunman was killed by a team of three border patrol
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agents that broke protocol and went into the building to try and kill the shooter. Reportedly,
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you know, one of the three border patrol agents was getting a haircut when his wife texts him. I
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think his wife was a teacher at the school or worked at the school. Wife texts him to say that
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at pro lawn life dot com slash now. So that's the timeline of the events. The mass cur left 19
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elementary school aged children dead and two of their teachers. One of the teachers husbands died
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of a heart attack within a couple of days of this. So the death cold death toll could easily be
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called 22 for now. But guys, the reality is the ram of vacations of this for the survivors and
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for the people of this community will be impossible to calculate. I mean, you should just definitely
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expect the body count to grow. Some of these people are going to act out on themselves either by
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harming themselves, potentially committing suicide. We pray that that doesn't happen.
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Potentially some of these people act out and be violent towards other people. There was a
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report of a grandfather who's watched his, you know, not the grandfather, but you know, his grandson
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watched his favorite person, his best friend be murdered right next to him. And the grandfather
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has said his since last Tuesday, his grandson has not uttered a single word, you know, just
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completely in shock, completely traumatized. There is going to be a major, major ripple effect from
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this. That's going to be, you know, last for decades and decades. So I do want to go through
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the names of the deceased. I think that is very important to acknowledge these people in their
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existence. Now I do apologize in advance for some of my Spanish pronunciations. I don't mean any
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disrespect to these, these victims or their families. So here are the victims.
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Uzia Garcia, 10 years old, Jose Flores, Jr, 10 years old, Emery Joe Garza, 10 years old, Xavier
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Lopez, 10 years old, Neva Bravo, 10 years old, Alithia Ramirez, 10 years old, Tess Marie Mata,
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10 years old, Alexandria Lexi Rubio, 10 years old, Layla Salazar, 10 years old,
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McKinley Elrod, 10 years old, J.C. Louvenos, 10 years old, Gila, Nicole Sogaro, 11 years old,
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Eliana Eligarsia, nine years old, Elihana Cruz Torres, 10 years old, Anabel Guadalupe Rodriguez,
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10 years old, Jacqueline Jackie Casaras, nine years old, Maddie Yuleana Rodriguez, 10 years old,
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10 years old, Rahelio Torres, 10 years old, Miranda Mathis, 11 years old, and then Eva Morela's
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44 year old teacher, and Irma Garcia, 48 year old teacher. And it was Irma's husband, Joe Garcia,
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50 that died of a heart attack two days after the massacre. So there were reports that many of
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these parents from this community, many of the parents that had students that were in and around
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the classrooms that were being shot up, they didn't find out until two or three in the morning
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that day, whether or not their child had been murdered, because they had to wait for DNA testing
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because of how mutilated the bodies were after they had been shot so many times by the killer
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in the killer's name is Salvador Ramos. And another thing just in terms of using the name,
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I'm not going to use it as much as possible. I'm just going to use it when it means when it's
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necessary. The shooter's birthday was on May 16, which is, you know, he basically, or yeah,
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the shooter's birthday was on May 16, and it was very close to his 18th birthday is when he went
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out and bought the rifles and ammunition that he planned to carry out this attack with. So we can
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assume that this young man had been planning this attack on his grandmother and or the school
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children for a while before he actually perpetrated it. So presumably he was waiting for his 18th
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birthday to be able to buy these firearms so that he could do what he felt like he needed to do.
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So there are a few things of note, the gunman arrived at the school at 1128, and he began
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his shooting his rifle outside almost immediately. Now this is where I get a lot of differences in
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terms of the timelines. There are some people that are reporting that it was five minutes from
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the moment he arrived on campus at 1128 until he went inside at 1133. There are other places that
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are reporting even to today, the recording of this on Wednesday that he spent 12 minutes outside,
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you know, shooting. So if it was five minutes, there wasn't really enough time for the police
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to come from the police station to respond to the situation. If it was 12 minutes, they definitely
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did because I even Google mapped it, you know, where the U of all the police station was versus
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the school, you know, five minutes, it would have been, you know, really tight, but 12 minutes they
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could obviously have gotten there. The gunman arrived at the school at 1128am as far as we know,
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but he was not killed until 1250. Almost a full 90 minutes after he arrived at Rob Elementary School.
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Okay. So in fact, it took law enforcement over an hour to even engage the gunman after he had
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barricaded himself in one of the classrooms, like they had engaged him initially with those first
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few officers that went in. But once he put himself in the classroom and he started systematically
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murdering these children, it took the officers over an hour to respond over an hour to engage
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the suspect to engage the gunman. So the cops had to wait for a key to get into the room.
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So I guess this is a news flash for all you would be school shooters out there.
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All you have to do is pick the biggest room in the school with the most students in it,
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go in there and just lock the door behind you that the cops will apparently be completely
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flummoxed and just sit there with their thumbs up their butts like that. That's apparently
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all you need to do because these officers just go golly gee, they just didn't know how to get in
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through a locked door. Perhaps that could have been part of the plan to respond to one of these
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mass killings at some point. Now, to talk about my personal thoughts on the issue,
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I remember hearing about the massacre and almost not wanting, not wanting to hear like, I don't
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want to see this. I don't want to read about this. And you know, that was kind of my initial
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reaction, which is odd for me because I normally want to immediately dig in. I think that part of
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the reason for that is because now I have sons. I have two kids, you know, obviously I've talked
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about them a lot, James and Elijah, otherwise known as squish. And you know, two year old and
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a two month old, and I automatically just thought about my kids and what would I've done in these
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situations and all those types of things. But obviously it's a horrific situation for me being
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a proponent of the second amendment for being a firearms owner, someone who conceal carries like
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all these different things. You know, it may be kind of look at myself and look at my ideologies
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and be like, man, I really hope I have all this right. I really hope that I'm thinking about this
18:47
the right way. I hope the framers of the Constitution got it right. You know, you kind of have those
18:50
gut check moments. But this massacre came shortly after an avowed white supremacist named Peyton
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Gendron killed 10 people and wounded three more in Buffalo, New York. This is like a week before
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this. So 11 of the victims were black, which is exactly what the shooter wanted. Apparently,
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Gendron was not killed at the scene. He was taken into custody. He was almost immediately charged
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with first degree murder. You know, he he pled guilty or he sorry, he pled not guilty to that
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charge. So surely more charges are going to come, including federal hate crime charges.
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Gendron will die in a federal prison. You know, that much we can just about guarantee.
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So on the heels of both of these things, just about every high profile mass shooting that we
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have in this country, it has caused us to be completely focused on this issue with a bunch of loud
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voices saying, you know, it's time to do something. They're going to bang on the table and we got to
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do something, right? And as we'll discuss here in a minute, they rarely give specifics of the
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something that they want us to do. Now, the thing that we need to talk about right now is the blame
19:48
game, because surely, and obviously there's a lot of blame to go around. So let's talk about some
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of this blame. So there's some blame on the teacher that left the school door prop to open.
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There's some blame to go to the Uvaldi school district administrators that came up with and
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enforced a bad school security plan. There's also blame that can go in the local law enforcement
20:09
officers in Uvaldi, Texas. In addition to that, blame can go on the law enforcement officials in
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Uvaldi, Texas that failed to equip their law enforcement officers with a plan that would prevent
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most of if not all of this massacre. Now, to be clear, and I just want to be, you know,
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go on the record is saying this. I am personally calling for every single person involved
20:28
in this situation that arrived on the scene and didn't instantly try to engage their murderer to
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be fired or resign immediately. Immediately, all of those people have to pay a price for what
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they decided they would not do in that situation. Also, some blame could go on all of us for not
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forcing our public school districts to take school safety and security seriously, like we do with
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other issues. Also, the family of the murderer, there's some culpability there. Did they not see
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these warning signs that we're going to get into here in a second? Also, the community around the
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murderer that should have noticed some of these things. Okay, and this is kind of a side note.
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This is a message to all the people out there, dads, especially teacher kids to seek out and be
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nice to the wallflowers or to the kids that seem a little bit disturbed at school. For dads,
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if you see a young man in the community that is not being fathered, step in and father that child
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to a degree, you know, teach your family members and your kids to notice when some of these warning
21:24
signs about some of these kids are coming and let them know that they can easily report that to you.
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But the last thing, and this is the ultimate thing in terms of the blame game, blame ultimately
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rests on one person. And that's the murderer himself, Salvador Ramos. Okay. He is singularly
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responsible for the decisions that he made to load up a magazine, put it into a rifle and pointed at
21:49
children and pull the trigger and to do that to his grandmother as well. And from what we know
21:55
about this guy, this is a guy that was a deeply disturbed young man. We have reports that he
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crossed rest that he got into fights at school that he cut up his face with a knife that he would,
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you know, drive around in a car and shoot random people out the window with a BB gun.
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He took pictures with, you know, cats in these plastic bags that he had killed. Apparently,
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he liked killing cats, which we see that with a lot of mass killers. They started out with animals
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and move their way up to human beings. He made posts online about how he wanted to kill and rate
22:24
people. You know, his, his, you know, ex-girlfriend said that, man, this guy's weird. He's potentially
22:28
dangerous. And apparently this guy, because normally the narrative of the person is mercilessly bullied
22:33
and this is them fighting back. Apparently he was the bully. When he talked to people that went
22:36
to school with him, they said, no, this, this kid was a big time bully. He's the one that bullied
22:40
a lot of people. Now, before we get into the other sections of the podcast here,
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I do think there are some things that are fair questions to ask right now because there are
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some things, guys, that absolutely stink. And I mean stink to high heaven about this massacre in
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Uvaldi. Okay. Now, this is going to be red meat for all of you conspiracy theorists out there,
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but I don't care because there are some questions that we need some answers to and we should demand
23:03
these answers. The first one is who is the teacher that propped the door open of the school,
23:08
allowing unimpeded access to the school for the shooter? Who is this teacher?
23:13
Do we know anything about this teacher? Because right now she's under complete
23:18
anonymity. We need to know that. Here's another thing. Do we know why she propped the door open?
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Did we begin with? Do we know why? Because people are assuming she was just running
23:30
out to her car to go get something. Do we know that? Okay. And this goes into the next question
23:35
that we need an answer to is, do we know why she propped the door open? Literally one minute,
23:41
one minute prior to the shooter crashing into the ditch right by the school? Do we know the
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answer to that? This is a good time to mention that there are storms moving through the state
23:51
of Oklahoma right now. So if you hear thunder, that is what that is. But she propped the door open
23:55
right before this guy showed up. Is that just a coincidence? I'm not saying it's not. It could
24:01
be a coincidence, but we need to know the answer to that. Another question we need to have the answer
24:05
to is, why was the school resource officer not on campus when the shooter arrived? How convenient?
24:11
Where was he? What was he doing? Why don't we know the answer to that? Another question,
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why did the U of all the school district police chief in charge tell officers to treat this
24:23
situation as a quote, barricaded subject situation, unquote, and order them not to breach the room
24:29
until they could organize a response as opposed to following the school district's protocol
24:34
to immediately engage any school shooter? Why was that decision made? Because again,
24:42
everyone is telling us that the school district's plan is that if there is a school shooter that
24:47
you engage that shooter immediately, that even if you're a police officer that responds and you see
24:51
a kid that is wounded from a school shooting or a teacher or something like that, your first
24:55
priority is not to help that kid. Your first priority is to stop the shooter. But the school
25:02
district's police chief said, Nope, barricaded subject situation, essentially a hostage situation,
25:07
which changes everything, which allowed for this killer to systematically murder these kids.
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We need to know the answer to that. Also, why did the cops at the scene have to wait for a damn key?
25:18
Really? You don't have a key to get into the door at school? And here's the thing, guys,
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is talk to anyone. And I mean anybody, anyone in your life that has tactical experience,
25:30
whether from the military or police or something like that, anybody with tactical experience,
25:34
if you hear them talk about this situation, they say that any room that has a door, whether it has
25:38
a lock or not, and has windows is going to be an easy room for you to breach and to clear.
25:44
Now, I'm painting with a broad brush here, but they're saying there's nothing about that classroom
25:48
that should have made it to where these officers spent over an hour sitting outside the door,
25:53
watching or watching themselves or watching each other, basically listening to kids be murdered.
25:59
There's no reason for that. We need an explanation. Another question is, and this is very important,
26:05
how did an 18-year-old that doesn't come from a family of means have enough money to buy
26:11
two AR-15s, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, a pistol, and body armor? We have no reports
26:18
that he stole any of these items, and we know for sure he bought two Daniel Defense rifles
26:22
for around $5,000, right, for these two rifles. Where did he get this money? Because reportedly,
26:29
the killer used to work at Wendy's, but he had been unemployed for over a year.
26:33
So, is it possible that he made enough money while working at Wendy's to save up all this money,
26:38
and when he got the money he wanted, he just quit and waited for his 18th birthday? Certainly,
26:41
that's possible, right? And even some of his former co-workers from Wendy said that he even
26:46
told them that he was just saving up to buy guns. But he just thousands and thousands and thousands
26:52
of dollars, and no one knew he had this money, and for approximately a week before he did this,
26:58
no one realized that he bought any of these things, no one in his family? We need to know the answer
27:03
to that. And also, the last thing I'll say on here before we move off the conspiracy stuff,
27:07
I guess, is the timing of this just stinks, stinks to high heaven. Midterms are coming up,
27:13
Democrats need something to run on because everything else is on fire, right? We need a
27:17
distraction away from what's been happening, and you know, what's about to happen at the southern
27:21
border, right? Record high gas prices, highest inflation in over 40 years, we're on the eve of
27:26
a major recession, the lowest approval ratings for Congress, and specifically for co-president Joe
27:30
Biden. So this is a supposedly winning issue for Democrats. So the timing just stinks. So allow me
27:38
to get off of that and move on to the next thing. So the reactions to the massacre and you've already
27:43
so a lot of predictability in the reactions. Okay, every Democrat and anti gun leftists began
27:48
calling for more gun control legislation, but few of them got very much more specific than that.
27:52
There, I mean, that should be a surprise to nobody. Also predictable is a bunch of people said,
27:56
we've got to do something, right? Without really specifying what they mean by something or if they
28:01
suggested something, it was stupid. You know, you had Steve Kerr going up there banging on the podium
28:05
at the press conference after or before one of the Warriors games and all that. And he's like,
28:09
you know, there's something sitting in Congress right now that needs to be, you know, needs to be
28:13
taken care of and needs to be voted on. But you know, we have 50 senators in Washington that don't
28:17
want that. And you know, all the virtue signaling that came with that, obviously, that's all very,
28:20
very predictable. Co president Joe Biden had a press conference at the White House or a speech
28:25
that he gave an address at the White House. It was a horrific display, unbelievably divisive.
28:32
He spent about 14 seconds saying, you know, how sad he was and how much we should more for these
28:37
people. And then the rest of it was just basically a diatribe on how we have to get rid of people's
28:42
abilities, the ability to have guns. That could have been a great opportunity for Joe Biden. A
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lot of people point this out just basically to bring the country together for a second.
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Hey, let's worry about legislation tomorrow. But he just, he couldn't help himself.
28:53
Then we had Biden's trip to Uvaldi, right? Now, for me, I know some people have a problem with
28:57
politicians showing up at, you know, disaster areas or the sites of mass murders or something
29:01
like that. I'm kind of neutral on it. You know, I would probably want somebody to come here,
29:06
you know, and at least show that they were here that they cared. But it doesn't actually mean that
29:10
they care. It's just mainly a media thing. And, you know, a lot of times there's a lot of security
29:14
that has to happen. So it puts a lot of, especially on a town like Uvaldi that's so small, it puts
29:18
a lot of pressure on them because now you got the president here and there's secret service and
29:21
there's a lot of things going on. And so when this town's really needing to up, you know,
29:25
uptick the amount of healing that needs to start as quickly as possible. Here we are worrying about,
29:28
you know, how much ice cream that we have to make sure Joe Biden has for his trip here and
29:31
how many diapers he has left in his bag. But also, he spoke to the media while he was in Uvaldi
29:37
and just proved that, I mean, no shock of all of to anyone that he doesn't know anything about
29:42
anything. But this guy knows nothing about firearms and nothing about firearm safety.
29:46
Talking about how no one needs a nine millimeter. You know, if you get shot with a 22, you know,
29:50
it'll basically prick you. But if you get shot with a nine millimeter, it'll blow your lung out of
29:53
your body. This guy doesn't understand anything about guns and add that to the list of things
29:57
that he has no knowledge of whatsoever. But one of the most tone deaf, egregious and
30:05
moronic moments came courtesy of one of my least favorite human beings alive. And that's former
30:09
president Barack Obama. He took to Twitter. And I mean, even as I look at this tweet before I read
30:14
it, it is astonishing to me that a human being could think this and then actually type it and
30:19
then send it out, right? And I'm assuming it was him. But even if not, it was someone on his team,
30:24
right? This was his tweet from 308 PM May the 25th, 2022. As we greet the children of Uvaldi today,
30:31
we should take time to recognize that two years have passed since the murder of George Floyd
30:37
under the knee of a police officer. His killing stays with us to this day, especially those who
30:42
loved him. So Barack Obama decided to say, Hey, I know there's a bunch of dead nine 10 and 11
30:49
year olds and a couple of teachers over here. But this colossal piece of crap who gave nothing
30:54
to society whatsoever that died with a horrific amount of drugs in his system that if he had been
30:59
just found dead on the street corner, they would have said he died from thin all overdose.
31:03
We need to worry about that guy. Don't don't take your eye off the ball here, everybody.
31:08
I know there's, you know, 21 dead bodies over here that aren't even cold yet, but we still need to
31:13
talk about George Floyd. Why? Because racism or something. What a despicable piece of crap he is.
31:20
What an unbelievable, horrible American, Barack Obama is screw him for that. Screw him. What?
31:27
I don't think I've ever cussed on this, this podcast and boy am I close. So we just need to move on
31:33
to someone else that's going to make me lose my mind. And that's beta O'Rourke. So beta O'Rourke
31:37
is a Democratic politician who's one of the least impressive people in public life. He lost a
31:41
presidential bid to run for president and win the nomination for the Democratic Party. He lost
31:46
a senatorial race in the state of Texas. So he's trying to get the trifecta by losing the governor's
31:50
race in Texas. So he is going to be the Democratic representative on the ballot this November,
31:54
running for the governor of the state of Texas. But he had one of the most unbelievably
31:58
inappropriate displays that I've ever seen. So basically I have one day after this event happened.
32:03
Greg Abbott, who is the governor of the state of Texas and, you know, the some police officials
32:09
and the mayor of the town of Uvaldi, they did a press conference to give you the information
32:12
they knew up to that point. Okay. So they're basically just describing what had happened.
32:17
And beta O'Rourke decides he was going to walk up to the stage, you know, and from the crowd,
32:23
point his finger at Greg Abbott and basically say, this is your fault and you're not doing
32:26
anything and blah, blah, blah. And to his credit, the mayor of Uvaldi stood up and said, Hey,
32:31
you stupid [inaudible], you get out of here, get out of here. This is inappropriate. You were
32:34
out of line, you were out of line. And that is the most perfect thing he could have done,
32:37
except for jumping off of the stage, you know, Habib Nurmagomedov style and just like super
32:43
kicking this dude directly in the face. But you know, he eventually walked himself out there.
32:47
And people automatically on the left side, they thought this was great. Oh, this is such heroism
32:52
by this guy. But there are a lot of people that were saying that this was not a stunt.
32:57
No, this wasn't a stunt. You know, Beto O'Rourke, he just cares so much. He was just overcome with
33:01
rage and had to just do something. You know, that's the theme is yeah, do something.
33:05
But there's one piece of evidence that shows that Beto O'Rourke clearly staged this little stunt.
33:10
Okay. There were two seat holders that were sitting in the room before the press conference
33:15
started. And right when the press conference began, they got up and gave their seats to Beto.
33:20
Okay. So Beto knew that he would have been confronted before the event had he been in there from the
33:25
beginning. So he made sure that his presence in the room was not going to be detected until
33:30
after the press conference had already kicked off. So just an unbelievable self serving display
33:35
from this ridiculous narcissist. And I hope every voter in the state of Texas took note of this
33:40
because I hope his candidacy for that office in the state of Texas, it goes by the wayside.
33:46
And Greg, Greg Abbott is not a perfect person or politician by any stress, the imagination,
33:50
but just a ridiculous display from Beto O'Rourke. And then in this, we'll kind of wrap up our,
33:55
you know, some reactions and some of the reactions. The dictator of Canada,
33:58
otherwise known as Justin Trudeau, he decided to use the tragedy to stand on the dead bodies of
34:04
these children to push through one of the most appalling gun policies that we currently have in
34:11
the world. Okay. He said in this, this in a speech over the weekend, just a few days after this
34:16
massacre took place, quote, we're introducing legislation to implement a national freeze on
34:21
handgun ownership. What this means is that it will no longer be possible to buy, sell, transfer,
34:27
or import handguns anywhere in Canada. In other words, we're capping the market for handguns,
34:33
unquote. Okay. So this guy uses an attack in another country using a rifle to take away the
34:40
ability of Canadians to own handguns. I guess there's nothing quite like disarming your future
34:46
subjects. Okay. This is right out of the communist playbook. This shouldn't be shocking to anyone.
34:50
And I've got a lot of listeners in Canada. And we love you guys. And I love when you reach out to
34:54
us and shoot us emails. And I just got to ask you, what in the hell are you still doing there?
34:57
Did, did COVID not prove anything to you guys about what the country is doing?
35:03
It is this, you know, thing that is being signaled by Justin Trudeau, not not making the call for you.
35:10
Like at this point, I just don't understand why you would stay there. And I understand like,
35:14
I'm not a Canadian. And this is where you're from and all that. Now we got to stay and fight.
35:18
Can you stay in fight? Is there anything that you can do at this point? Because the sense I get
35:23
is that the majority of people like this stuff, because they put Justin Trudeau in office twice.
35:27
So I just don't understand what's going on with the voters up there. But this is not a podcast
35:32
about Canada. We've got other stuff that we need to talk through. So I do have some random thoughts
35:37
before we get into the rest of the content. And again, we're going to get into a bunch of
35:39
myths that need to be debunked. We're going to get into ways that we can actually stop these
35:43
school shootings. But the first thing I want to talk through is it's very rich to me to see
35:48
atheists saying that our thoughts and prayers aren't sufficient. You saw that immediately.
35:51
A lot of people saying thoughts and prayers, giving you my thoughts and prayers. But these
35:54
atheists are like, Oh, you know, we need something more than your thoughts and prayers. Well, obviously,
35:58
they think that because they think that we're just slime. They think that we're stardust,
36:03
who were highly evolved, you know, monkeys that used to be highly evolved fish, right?
36:07
These people have no concept of good and evil, really, because they reject the person that gave
36:12
us the moral code that allows us to discern the difference of good versus evil, right?
36:17
So there are situations where prayers are all I can do, right? Initially, all I could do is pray.
36:24
Now I can help to raise money. Now I can do what I can to help support the people down there and
36:27
you've already, but of course, these people are saying that. Another random thought is that
36:31
people automatically began focusing on the gun. The young man used to perpetrate the evil that he
36:36
did and not the evil inside the young man, right? You even saw I saw an interview with Dan Crenshaw
36:40
and CNN and the person said, you know, what are we going to do with when we have these, you know,
36:44
these guns attacking and all these different things and Dan Crenshaw, you know, unfortunately,
36:48
did not pound her on that. A gun did not perpetrate this crime. A person did kind of like, you know,
36:53
in Waukesha whenever a guy, a black supremacist drove through and killed a bunch of people out of
36:57
parade in Wisconsin, right? Like this, this is, this is a horrible situation that was not perpetrated
37:03
by a Ford SUV is perpetrated by a person. Another random thought I wanted to kind of get out there
37:08
is the same people that claim to care about the kids killed by firearms wielded by evil people
37:14
are completely okay with kids that are killed by surgical tools wielded by evil people.
37:20
I mean, how quickly can you shift from Roe v. Wade has to stay in because we need to make
37:26
sure women can kill their babies for any reason whatsoever at any point in the pregnancy and have
37:30
tax payers pay for it to. Oh my gosh, I can't believe we live in a country where we kill children.
37:35
It's like, do you idiots not see the disconnect? Do you not see how your brain is not recognizing
37:42
what you're saying? It's so incredible that the people were able to just make that shift
37:47
and no one's calling them on it. Right? It's just crazy that we're not calling them on it.
37:52
Also, to the do something people out there to the steep curves of the world,
37:56
those people are very, very big on emotion, but very, very small in suggestions,
38:00
mostly because these people don't understand much about this issue. Even people, you know,
38:05
in the MMA community like Michael Bisming, he always likes to talk about school shootings
38:08
and all that. He's from England and oh, we don't have this problem in England and all that. Yeah,
38:11
they have a problem with people doing mass stabbings over there as if, you know, violence only occurs
38:15
in the United States of America. We'll get way more into that here in a second, but to do something
38:18
people, it's like, okay, great. Let's do something like what? Like what? And if they have anything to
38:24
say at all, they typically say something that is really, really stupid. Again, way more on that
38:28
here in a second. Also, most of these do something people that make suggestions, they stop short of
38:33
what they actually want, what they really want. And that is full gun confiscation. That's what
38:38
they actually want. But obviously, democratic politicians are very, very gun shy note for
38:42
forgive the pun for saying that out loud, because they know that is a wildly unpopular opinion
38:46
with the United States electorate. Also, these anti gun people don't say a word about mass shootings
38:51
that take place in blue cities, literally every week. Why? Because they don't fit a narrative.
38:56
Because if you didn't know this, a mass shooting is where there are four or more victims.
39:01
But did you know that the definition of a mass shooting used to be if there were three or more
39:05
victims? Now, why even for statistical purposes would we change it from three or four? Well,
39:11
because a lot of times when there's gang violence, which is predominantly a problem in communities
39:16
of color, there are a lot of shootings, random shootings, drybys and whatnot, where there are
39:21
three or more victims. And so what people notice in the data is that it was being skewed in showing
39:26
that people of color were predominantly the people that were perpetrating these mass crimes,
39:30
these mass shootings, these mass murders. So they changed it to four to move the data around a
39:35
little bit, right? But all the anti gun people aren't talking about that. They're not picketing
39:41
in Chicago, demanding that, you know, the mayor Lori Lightfoot, you know, do something about the fact
39:45
that dozens of people are killed in our city every week, right? Because that would be way too
39:49
inconvenient. That'd be way too difficult, right? And it's not dozens. It's, it's lower than that.
39:52
But I was being slightly hyperbolic to make my point. Also, how is it possible that not a single
39:58
one of these anti gun leftists that we've seen, you know, making the rounds for last week and
40:02
half or any Democrat that is advocating for, you know, any of these things? Why are none of these
40:06
people advocating for security in all schools? They're only talking about the firearms. That's it.
40:13
None of them are saying that we need to secure our schools. Why are they only talking about the
40:17
guns? This is an incredibly, incredibly important point. Why only the guns? Why only focus on that
40:24
part of the solution? Because I know a lot of people on the right, a lot of people on the pro
40:27
gun, right, that are willing to talk about everything as it pertains to this issue,
40:30
including the firearms. But no one on that side of the aisle is willing to talk about anything
40:35
other than the firearms. So the same people are also willing to ignore all potential consequences
40:42
of having our kids do zoom school for two years or to wear a mask all day at school and not be
40:46
able to see the faces of the people they're interacting with. But they have no regard or interest in
40:50
paying for the protection of these students while they're at school. Really? Why the disconnect?
40:55
And the last kind of random thought here, I want to make sure I got out there is really,
40:59
in my estimation, there are only two main reasons why leftists are blaming guns, only two.
41:03
The first, this may seem a little conspiracy theory, but prove me wrong,
41:09
they want to disarm the populace to move us ever closer to socialism and communism.
41:14
That's what these people want. Why else would you disarm the populace?
41:20
So that's reason number one, reason number two, they have no room for evil in their worldview,
41:27
none whatsoever, because they have no room for God in their worldview. Because if evil doesn't
41:35
exist, then we have to blame inanimate objects at that point. It's certainly not because these
41:41
people care more than everybody else, not even close. Now, we need to move into a really, really
41:46
important section here because there are so many myths that are being propagated out there online,
41:50
on news shows, you know, at your local coffee shop right now. So we need to do myth versus
41:55
reality. Okay, there's a bunch of inconvenient and uncomfortable facts about mass shootings,
41:59
firearms and gun violence in America. So we need to set the record straight on a lot of these. Okay,
42:03
so myth number one, the writers of the Second Amendment would have never predicted that modern
42:08
Americans would be able to so easily own quote unquote weapons of war. The reality is, is yeah,
42:14
they could, because at the time the framers were writing all of this, there were things like the
42:19
puckle gun, the pepper box revolver, the gear and Donnie air rifle, the belt and flintlock rifle,
42:26
and yes, cannons, right? These were all in existence when the framers did this,
42:32
and they were covered by the Second Amendment. Okay. And the framers were very, very smart,
42:37
forward thinking guys, they obviously knew that technology and innovations would happen in the
42:41
firearm industry and that they would continue to improve. So when you hear people say that they
42:46
would have never envisioned people being able to own weapons of war, that is just not true. And
42:50
also there's a major difference between the AR style rifle that you can go and buy at Cabela's
42:56
versus what, you know, Navy seals are carrying around over in the Middle East or something like
42:59
that. Okay. So that's the first myth. Myth number two, common sense gun reform is what's needed.
43:05
Common sense gun reform. We just, we're just asking for common sense gun reform, you guys.
43:09
But here's the reality. There is no such thing as common sense gun reform. There's no such thing.
43:14
These people talking about it can't even define what they mean most of the time. Again, it's,
43:20
it's the do something crowd, right? Because if it were common sense, we would all know what
43:25
you were talking about, but none of us know what you're talking about, and you don't ever fill in
43:28
the blanks. Myth number three is that more gun laws lead to less gun crime. Okay. The reality is,
43:35
is that the cities in the United States with the most gun crime are the cities with the most
43:39
gun regulations. And they all happen to be blue cities. Okay. So cities like Chicago, Baltimore,
43:45
New Orleans, Detroit, New York City, St. Louis, all these types of places. Okay. And then you also
43:51
have to ask this question, is what gun laws would have prevented the massacre in Uvaldi?
43:56
Background checks? Okay. Well, in the state of Texas, you're required to have an FBI background
44:01
check before you get your firearm, which the murderer passed. You know, none got no gun show
44:07
loopholes. This guy bought his rifles and ammo from an FFL. That's federal firearms license dealer,
44:13
right? And there's no such thing as a gunhole loophole, because FFLs are the only people that
44:17
are able to legally sell these things at gun shows as well. You know, carry laws, you know,
44:22
without a preventant this. Well, this guy was illegally carrying a pistol. We know that much,
44:27
right? And you can't do that as an 18 year old in Texas. So again, what law could have been on
44:32
the books that would have prevented this? And it shouldn't have to be mentioned, but I will,
44:37
and I'll continue to mention it, is criminals don't follow laws law-abiding citizens do,
44:43
by definition, for both of them. So you could put every law on the planet on the books,
44:48
and a criminals can ignore that because they're a criminal. Okay. Then we have myth number four.
44:53
If we get rid of all the assault rifles, we'll get rid of all this violence. Okay. Here's reality.
44:59
Assault rifles, again, as I said earlier, is technically not a category of rifle.
45:02
And rifles aren't even in the top five list of weapons used to murder people in the United
45:09
States every year. Okay. So maybe you've seen this someplace. And this is according to
45:13
Satista. And if I, you know, have some of these quotes through here or some of these statistics,
45:16
I'll make sure I try to put all that in the show notes. I'll try to make sure I have that
45:18
all there for you so you guys can check my work. But in 2020, the number of murder victims in the
45:23
US by weapons used. Okay. Number one was handguns 8,029. Number two was firearms type not stated.
45:31
So we're not sure what firearm, but that's 4863. Number three, knives or cutting instruments.
45:38
That's 1739. Number four was other weapons 983. This could be cars. This could be rocks. Who the
45:45
heck knows? Number five was personal weapons. So hands, fists, feet, right? 662 people.
45:53
Number six is rifles at 455. And right after rifles is blunt objects, 393. So rifles are in
46:03
between hands and fists and feet and blunt objects. Okay. So this idea that getting rid of
46:09
assault rifles is going to end this violence and murder in America is a falsehood. Okay.
46:14
Myth number five, people don't need firearms for self defense. That's why we have police.
46:19
Now here's the reality. These people only like the police with firearms when those police are
46:25
protecting them, especially left as politicians. They love it when cops protect them. They absolutely
46:30
love it. They're willing to pay for it even, but otherwise they hate cops, right? They want their
46:35
departments to disappear or even be more severely defunded. They want them to be called irredeemable
46:41
racist and they think that they're irredeemable racists that just go around the country looking
46:45
for black people to murder, right? It's also interesting that the good guys with guns that
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stopped this particular massacre, they were border patrol agents, which is a group of people that
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these politicians want disbanded. They don't want border patrol, right? Until they can use them
47:01
as heroes, you know, in this situation to basically make people that are pro gun seem like they're
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crazy, right? Now let's talk about myth number six. People don't need firearms for self defense,
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just in general. Here's the reality. And this is one of the biggest points that almost nobody
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is making. Okay, you have to pass this on. You have to pass on this information. There are
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significantly more defensive uses of firearms in the United States every year than there are
47:28
homicides using firearms. I will repeat it because this is maybe the hinge point of everything where
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we're gonna be talking about. There are significantly more defensive uses of firearms in the United
47:37
States of America every single year than there are homicides using firearms. Okay. So according
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to a 2021 national firearm survey in 2021, there were an estimated 1.67 million uses of firearms
47:53
in defense situations. Okay, 1.6 million, 1.67 million. But according to the CDC data from 2020,
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which is the last year that we have it, there were only 19,384 uses of firearms and homicides.
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So 1.67 million defensive uses versus under 20,000 offensive uses for homicides. Okay.
48:18
And the 1.67 million number is surely undercut, undersold, because how many times did somebody
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just brandish a weapon to stop a potential assault or murder or something like that and didn't call
48:31
the cops just went on about their day. So surely it's higher than that. Okay. And that fact alone,
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guys, that huge fact, and it's that way every single year, right? That fact alone should kill
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any of the, even if these new gun laws can save one life argument, because all these new gun
48:49
regulations are going to do are take firearms out of the hands of the people that are in that 1.67
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million defensive uses group, not the criminals, obviously. Let's talk about myth number seven.
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We need more gun free zones. Okay. The reality is, is that around 95% of mass shootings in the
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United States occur in gun free zones. Why? Because they're soft targets. Why? Because criminals,
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by definition, don't follow laws. And so when they see a sticker on the window that says,
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no guns, please, have you ever known a mass shooter to be like, gosh darn it, I really
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wanted to kill all these people in here today. But you know what? That sticker that sticker really
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got it's a gun free zone. What can I do? I guess I'll have to go find some other place where I can
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murder people. Yeah, idiots. Myth number eight. This is the gun lobby's fault. Here's a reality.
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There is technically no such thing as a gun lobby in the United States. Really. There are just
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individual like-minded citizens that are passionate about firearms. Now there are organizations,
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and I talked about this in the last podcast about, you know, lobbying groups. And so the NRA
49:54
is the most famous one for guns. But the NRA spends a fraction on lobbying, you know, lobbying
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the politicians and lobbying in Washington, DC, then even just the abortion industry in the United
50:07
States, which kills way more people, almost a million people a year. Again, less than 20,000
50:13
people are murdered using firearms in the United States. And for a country of 350 million people,
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that's actually not very high, right? All those are tragedies, but it's not that high, right?
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But this idea that this is the gun lobby doing this, like how many people actually believe that?
50:29
And here's another thing. The number of NRA members that have ever perpetrated a mass shooting
50:35
in the United States is zero, zero. But there have been plenty of NRA members and former members
50:43
that have stopped mass shootings. So are we really going to demonize a group of people that is not
50:48
the ones doing the murders? Really? Now let's talk about myth number nine. It shouldn't be so easy
50:54
for people to buy guns. Anyone can just buy a gun online or at a gun show. This is a very,
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very popular on Twitter, a popular one on Twitter and all these democratic politicians. You shouldn't
51:03
just be able to buy a gun online or, you know, go to a gun show. People are pretending like they
51:06
can just go to their Amazon app on their phone, order an AR 15 and a thousand rounds, and it'll just be
51:10
shipped to their door by the next day. It's not reality. Because the reality is is you cannot legally
51:15
purchase a firearm in this country without doing so through an FFL. Again, a federal firearms license
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dealer, right? You can't do it. But people are just propagating this myth. They're just putting it
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out there. Myth number 10, we can predict who will become a mass murderer. And unfortunately,
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the reality is is we're actually really, really bad at that. Okay. And this is why we're so bad
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at it. Because almost all school shooters have these things in common, almost all of them.
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They're loners and outcasts. They have a bad home life. They have an absent or crappy father.
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They have no belief in God. They act out violently. They publicly, whether, you know,
51:52
online or in person, talk about violence. And they're on SSRIs that selective serotonin,
51:58
reuptake inhibitors, otherwise known as antidepressants. And, you know, we can't get the,
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you know, medical, you know, medical background of all these kids. But that is something that's
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very, very common with a lot of these kids as they were known to be on antidepressants.
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So while all school shooters pretty much have those things in common,
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not all people that are loners and outcasts with bad home lives with absent or crappy fathers
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that publicly declare they want to do violence and they have no belief in God and are on SSRIs
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seek to murder large swaths of their peers. Some people just that's the hand they were dealt.
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Some people, these are just the ways that they act out. So it's hard for us to know
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who is going to change, you know, from doing those things, from kind of being in that group
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to going to that next tier up, which is mass murderer. You know what I mean?
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Now, there are some very interesting tech platforms that are doing some pretty cool work
52:47
in this area. Julie jargon over at the Wall Street Journal. She's a tech reporter over there.
52:52
She did a report over the weekend that they're these new tech platforms that are trying to screen
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teens for signs that they'll become violent. They talked about this on the daily wire on their
53:01
daily show, they're on their podcast. And there's companies called light speed systems,
53:07
gaggle, bark, some other systems, but all of these systems monitor student communication on all
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devices or any devices that are hooked up to the school's internet network. Okay. So, and I'm not
53:17
too worried about privacy and the privacy implications of this because they're kids and they're using
53:21
the school's network. But basically AI algorithms would look for patterns, right? So if someone's
53:27
searching about suicide methods or searching about school shootings or searching about weapons,
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all that info will be gathered and given to the school administrators to investigate further or
53:36
just, you know, deal with it further. But there is a big time pattern here with school shooters,
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virtually all school shooters verbalize their intentions to make an attack before they do so.
53:45
Okay. So jargon in her Wall Street Journal piece said that the US Secret Service Study
53:50
looked at 67 different violent plots against schools and found that 94% of the school
53:55
attacks or attackers expressed their intentions online before they did the deed. Okay. And the
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other 6% documented their plans offline, like in a journal or something like that. So, essentially,
54:07
none of these school shooters are keeping it to themselves. They are announcing it somewhere.
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Now, again, this is important for kids to look for warning signs in their peers to tell school
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officials to tell their parents, and we should train them and encourage them to do so. And the
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last myth I want to get into before we get into the rest of the content is that the myth number 11
54:25
is evil doesn't exist. There's no such thing as evil. There's just people that do things, right?
54:31
And the realities look around you. Yeah, these atheists, you know, telling us, oh, I was evil.
54:36
You know, what happened there? It's like, what do you mean by evil? You're just a chimp. I'm just
54:40
a chimp. Like, what does it matter if one chimp kills another chimp? There's so many chimps out there.
54:45
These chimps can be easily replaced, right? People talking as if evil doesn't exist.
54:50
It's like, what real are you watching? Because it's not the one that's actually happening.
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But now we need to transition into talking, talking about the most common stupid ideas
55:00
about how to lower gun violence in America. Because boy, have there been a lot of them,
55:03
but this is really, really important. We really need to dig down here. First is universal background
55:07
checks. Okay. So the first thing on that is that criminals won't go along with that because they're
55:11
criminals. And this will only negatively affect law-abiding firearms owners. Okay. Now universal
55:16
background checks would require a background check on all firearms transactions in the United States.
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Okay. All of them. So this would mean that every time a firearm transferred hands in FFL,
55:26
we'd have to do that transaction. Okay. So for example, if my dad, you know,
55:30
one to give me a family heirloom gun, okay, we'd have to do that transfer via an FFL on the FFL's
55:37
timeline and on our dime. And I'm sure it would not be a cheap or quick process. Okay.
55:43
This would also require a national gun registry, which is unlawful. And also this would clearly
55:47
have no impact or effect on criminals because they would bypass this process anyway, right?
55:54
Because the majority of mass shooters buy their firearms legally because they have no prior criminal
55:59
record and or their their criminals that buyer require their firearms illegally to begin with,
56:04
right? So universal background check wouldn't apply to either group, right? The idea that universal
56:10
background checks would stop these mass killings is an absolute farce. And universal background
56:14
checks would only inconvenience the transfer or sale of firearms from one law-abiding party
56:19
to another law-abiding party. That's essentially all it would do. So there are these people that
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treat universal background checks like it's, you know, a magic bullet again, forgive the pun.
56:27
But this isn't a magic bullet for the gun problem, right? Universal background checks
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are the same thing, I guess, is like minority report is like they don't detect future crime.
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How could a background check that looks behind somebody before that date be able to predict
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something that happens after that date? There's no background check whatsoever that could do that.
56:52
Another stupid idea is raising the minimum age to buy a firearm from 18 to 21. Okay. So first of all,
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criminals won't go along with that because they're criminals and this will only negatively affect
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law-abiding firearms owners. Also, Ben Shapiro pointed this out on a show and I thought it was
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great. If you want to raise the age to purchase a gun from 18 to 21, fine. But then you also need
57:13
to raise the age of the draft to 21 and raise the voting age to 21. You can't expect people to be
57:21
half adults. Hey, we might draft you to go die for your country and all that. But yeah, you definitely
57:27
can't vote for the politicians making that decision. Also, you can't opt out of not being sent overseas
57:34
to kill for us. That doesn't make a lot of sense. Also, the people that are making the argument
57:39
that that are saying, you know, a lot of brain development and maturity happens between the age
57:44
of 18 and 21, which is absolutely true. But if you take that argument to its logical conclusion,
57:50
then we should raise raise the voting age, the drinking age, the draft age, and driving ages
57:58
to 25 when the overwhelming majority of the population experiences full brain development.
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If you honestly are making the argument that it needs to be 21 because we need these kids to
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mature a little bit more, great. But you got to do it with everything. You have to do what most
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politicians are incapable of doing and that's being intellectually consistent. And also, some of the
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same people that want to say that we need to take it from the age of 18 to the age of 21,
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these people say that a human being that's like a quarter of the age of an 18 year old,
58:25
like a six year old, they're saying that that person can decide what their gender is, right?
58:30
You know, a four or five six year old, right? That this person can decide, oh, I'm not a boy,
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I'm actually a girl. And I'd like to go through gender transition. Really? Help me make that make
58:45
sense. Explain it to me in a way that makes sense. Because it doesn't. The next one,
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you're hearing a lot about these and it's red flag laws. Okay. So for me personally,
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I think I've talked about this before. I'm fundamentally against red flag laws. I think
58:57
back in the past, I was open to the argument until I learned more about what they actually were
59:00
because they will be taken advantage of in blue states or districts and by liberal justices and
59:05
judges. They will be. And similar to the people that are still incarcerated for the riot on January
59:10
the 6th of 2020 or 2021 rather, what will be the recourse for these people being able to get their
59:17
firearms back? Nobody can answer that, right? And there was a section from the daily wire,
59:21
daily article that I'll include in the show notes that I thought was incredibly helpful in terms of
59:25
understanding red flag logs. And here it is. But red flag laws remove all these due process
59:30
protections based only on a written complaint, which could come from a relative friend, neighbor,
59:35
or police officer, a judge decides whether to take away a person's guns. There is no ability to
59:40
challenge claims or to offer testimony from a mental health care expert. Gun control advocates
59:45
argue that the person should not even know that the judge may be deciding to take his or her guns.
59:50
When a hearing finally takes place upon up to a month later, if the person in question cannot
59:56
afford an attorney, they will not be provided with one. When faced with the costs for the hearing,
1:00:01
which may be up to $10,000, few people find that fighting red flag laws to keep their guns and make
1:00:06
sense. Few defendants obtain legal representation, but the court still overturns a third of the initial
1:00:11
orders. The actual error rate is undoubtedly much higher because many of those wrongly prosecuted
1:00:17
don't have a lawyer. So this is not a good idea. You should not support because most of the people
1:00:23
that are pro second amendment, if they can get behind any of these dumb ideas, it's the red flag
1:00:27
laws, but guys don't take the bait. It's a bad, bad idea. Another stupid idea is banning high
1:00:32
capacity magazines. So again, number one, criminals won't go along with that because they're criminals.
1:00:36
This will only negatively affect law abiding firearms owners. And are we pretending like
1:00:40
changing magazines is one of the most difficult things that you can do on the planet? Like,
1:00:44
it's merely going to be a pause and a massacre. Now, you can get really fast with mag changes. I
1:00:49
know there are opportunities for folks, you know, whenever there's a magazine being changed,
1:00:53
that that can be when somebody can intercede. But this idea that banning the high capacity
1:00:57
magazines from people like me being able to own them is silly because there's so many of them out
1:01:02
there. And again, criminals don't play by that game. But then we get to the one that most people
1:01:05
will talk about if they're being intellectually honest. And that's full firearm confiscation.
1:01:09
So first of all, maybe you've heard me say this before, criminals go won't go along with that
1:01:13
because they're criminals. And this will only negatively affect law abiding firearms owners.
1:01:17
But this full firearm confiscation in the United States, this is a fantasy. Okay, this could never
1:01:22
happen. This would 100% lead to civil war and millions, if not tens of millions, Americans would
1:01:30
be killed. Just think about if the United States government decided right now to send out the
1:01:34
National Guard or send out the military send out all these police forces to go around and
1:01:38
gather up people's firearms. The bloodshed would be unbelievable. Okay. But everyone's pointing to
1:01:45
Australia as the example for this. Now I went into this in the last podcast, but in case you
1:01:49
haven't heard that or are not going to go back and listen to episode 10, I need to go through this
1:01:52
again, because Australia had a mass shooting in 1996. So in 1996, Australia banned gun ownership
1:01:58
and gun sales. Okay, they did a buyback, right? You know, big air quotes there, which is a
1:02:02
compensation program. And the left always uses this as our main argument example. But we need
1:02:06
to compare a few things here. So let's compare the United States today with Australia from 1996.
1:02:12
Okay, so let's talk about population. Australia in 1996 had around 18 million people.
1:02:17
The United States today has around 335 million people. The number of guns in country in Australia
1:02:23
in 1996, around 3 million. The United States today estimates are from 300 million to 475 million
1:02:30
firearms. Okay, now let's talk about trends. Australia, since 1996, gun violence has gone down
1:02:37
at a lower rate in Australia than it has in the United States. How is that possible if an outright
1:02:43
ban in confiscation happened in that country? Well, because during the confiscation, only about one
1:02:49
third of the guns in Australia were turned in about one third. So about one million of the three
1:02:54
million guns ever in country. Since 1996, the country has gained back approximately a million
1:03:00
guns. So they're right back where they started. Now in the United States, gun ownership has exploded
1:03:05
during the same amount of time. Okay, and gun violence has gone down per capita in the United
1:03:10
States. It has gone down. Okay, in 1993, there was about one gun per citizen in the United States
1:03:17
today. It's about one and a half guns per citizen of the United States. So are you really claiming
1:03:23
people that are saying full gun confiscation in the United States? Are you really claiming
1:03:27
that the federal government in the United States can do a better job than Australia did with the
1:03:33
US having 18 times the number of people and 100 times the number of guns over 100 times the number
1:03:41
of guns? Are you really suggesting that we're going to be able to pull that off the United States
1:03:46
federal government that can barely fix a pothole can do that? This overall suggestion of repealing
1:03:53
the second amendment and confiscating guns is baseless. And it's as baseless as it is ridiculous.
1:03:58
And I point that out back in 2018 as well. But we've spent about an hour now and so I'm so thankful
1:04:04
for you guys that have hung around. Because we now need to talk about how we can actually stop
1:04:09
future school shootings. Okay, the before we even get into the suggestions is there are a few
1:04:14
reality checks that we need to go over from the beginning. Number one is that you simply will
1:04:18
not be able to stop every school shooting. Okay, there's nothing you can do. If you implement
1:04:23
everything I'm about to talk about, you won't stop evil entirely. It's impossible. Evil will
1:04:29
find a way. And the second thing is that nothing that the anti gun Democrats are leftist or even,
1:04:35
you know, the squishy second amendment Republicans are suggesting right now will stop the overwhelming
1:04:40
majority of school shootings. Because of what I've said over and over and over in this podcast
1:04:44
is criminals don't abide by the law. So adding these new laws will not have the desired effect.
1:04:50
It will not do what you think it will do. Okay, so let's go over the best possible solutions
1:04:55
right now. The first thing that we need to do is focus on micro problems. Okay, these are the
1:05:00
short term things. Okay, number one, install full video security and barricade systems in all
1:05:07
K through 12 schools in America, immediately, immediately. I'm okay with this being done on the
1:05:14
federal or on the state level. I don't care. So that's number one. Number two, where possible,
1:05:19
retrofit every public K through 12 school in America with a single point of entry on their
1:05:24
school buildings. Everyone that has any background on this, it says there should be one distinguishable
1:05:29
point of entry in every single school that will help with this big time. And I'm okay with this
1:05:33
being done on the federal or state levels as well. Let's talk about number three, begin the planning,
1:05:38
hiring process and training for full time security officers to be placed at every school in America
1:05:45
immediately. Okay, I'm okay with this being done on the federal or state levels. I'm okay with law
1:05:50
enforcement agencies having a hand in this. I'm okay with private security agencies having a hand
1:05:54
in this. Okay, people and but we do need to address this. There are people that are saying, you know,
1:05:58
having armed guards at school, you know, we'll scare the kids too much. But these same people
1:06:02
seemingly have no problem with armed guards at secure and security, you know, at airports or
1:06:07
sports arenas or banks or federal buildings. So save me this idea that kids going to be traumatized
1:06:12
if he sees a gun on the way into his classroom, right? It's just not really going to work out there.
1:06:16
And I need to take a little quick pause here because before anyone goes and says something
1:06:21
stupid like, all this is too expensive, Kyle, like how could you possibly afford this and pull this
1:06:26
off? Okay, here's some math I want to do for you. Okay, so a couple of weeks ago, the United States
1:06:31
Congress approved $40 billion in foreign aid to Ukraine as they try to fight back the invasion of
1:06:38
the Russians. Now, yes, I do acknowledge we can do two things at once, right? We can give money
1:06:43
to the Ukrainians and do stuff here. I'm just showing you some simple math so that we can make
1:06:47
this easy. Okay, that's $40 billion on top of the other billions we'd given them. But let's just
1:06:51
focus on the 40 billion. If you add up all the K through 12 schools in America, that includes
1:06:55
public, private and optional schools, there are around 130,000 K through 12 schools in America
1:07:01
right now. And I definitely rounded up everywhere I could. Okay, if you just took that 40 billion
1:07:06
dollars that the federal government just sent directly over to, you know, one of the most corrupt
1:07:11
countries on the planet, okay? You know, we just pulled it directly out of our butts. If you took
1:07:16
that 40 billion and divided it up evenly amongst every school in America, every K through 12
1:07:22
school, and I know dividing evenly doesn't make sense because some are bigger, some are smaller.
1:07:25
Don't worry about it. 40 billion dollars divided up evenly with all of those schools in America,
1:07:30
that would give each school about three hundred and eight thousand dollars to get started on these
1:07:36
new security initiatives on the on the systems, you know, which are one time installs and then,
1:07:41
you know, you know, future stuff, you know, doing all the stuff with, you know, retrofitting the
1:07:45
schools and, you know, paying people to kind of, you know, start being security for all these things.
1:07:49
Just to get started, there's three hundred and eight thousand dollars. You're telling me
1:07:54
that doesn't make an impact. You're telling me these schools couldn't use that effectively?
1:07:58
Okay. Now in the state of Oklahoma where I live, there was a big tornado in May 20th, 2013.
1:08:04
There were 24 people killed, seven of those were school children, okay? The tornado actually,
1:08:09
you know, took out a school building. I watched it live on air. It was one of the most horrific
1:08:12
things I was literally sitting there before I went to the gym, just bawling my eyes out thinking
1:08:15
about all the kids that had been killed, right? And, you know, thank God there were only seven,
1:08:19
you know, I say only seven, but it could have been the entire school wiped out, but unfortunately,
1:08:23
you know, only seven kids lost their lives, which was fortunate for the rest of them, obviously.
1:08:27
But we have automatically started moving in the state of Oklahoma to making sure there were tornado
1:08:31
shelters inside the state. Now, it wasn't carried out perfectly, but we at least moved that direction.
1:08:36
But for Oklahoma, in terms of security and all that, and I know I'm working with Governor Stitt's
1:08:41
office to have him come on the show to talk about some different things, but here in Oklahoma,
1:08:45
how about we use some of that casino money to work on the security programs for schools?
1:08:50
How about that lottery money that was sold to us about 20 years ago that was going to fix all
1:08:55
the things in education? Okay? Hell, how about we use some of that weed money, right? In the
1:09:00
state of Oklahoma, we just couldn't live without medicinal weed. And now we have weed shops,
1:09:04
literally every 14 feet in this state. Do you tell me we can't use some of that money for our kids?
1:09:09
We can't use some of that money to protect our school systems, right? There is plenty of money
1:09:15
to go to around. I don't want these states, you know, coming out with their pockets out like,
1:09:18
oh, there's nothing we can do. There's money in the federal and state governments to take care of
1:09:22
this. We just need to be able to do it. And I know I'm kind of messing up my micro section here,
1:09:26
but I do need to talk about this as well. I want to see parents in all over the United States,
1:09:32
at school board meetings, the next school board meeting, just as mad about school safety as I saw
1:09:39
them with CRT in the classrooms and all this trans bull crap and all this LGBTQ nonsense and all
1:09:45
these porn books in the libraries, you know, Mark Levin pointed this out when he was on Glenn Beck's
1:09:49
program, that needs to be the next thing on the agenda. So those next videos we see of parents going
1:09:54
viral, you know, from the school board meetings need to be because of that. We need to see that
1:09:59
immediately. Now, let me get to my fourth and final, you know, micro approach to how we can
1:10:03
solve these school shootings, train students on what to do during school shootings, okay,
1:10:08
which seems, you know, macabre and seems, you know, unbelievable. But we do fire drills.
1:10:13
We do weather drills. So if you're in Hurricane area or earthquake area or tornado area, we do
1:10:19
drills for all those things. But very few schools have a drill in place for an active shooter
1:10:24
situation. Train the students. That's something that you can implement next week before the kids
1:10:29
are out for summer or something. I guess they're already out for summer. It's something that you
1:10:32
can do immediately in August. Okay. But then after you get to the through the micro stuff,
1:10:38
we need to start focusing on the macro problems. Okay. And these are a much, much bigger and much
1:10:42
harder to address. But number one, address the crisis of fatherless homes. Again, almost all
1:10:48
these mass killers come from a home where the father is absent or crappy. And in every fatherless
1:10:53
home, the children that are in those homes, their educational outcomes are lower. Their
1:10:58
instances of criminality are through the roof. It's a bad, bad situation. And we need to have a bunch
1:11:04
of ramifications for fathers that decide to leave their family. So focus on that macro problem.
1:11:09
The second is address the mental health crisis. We obviously have a mental health crisis in this
1:11:14
country and it has nothing to do with the fact that we don't have enough pills, which is a third
1:11:18
thing. And I'll talk about them together, I guess, is address the prescription drug crisis.
1:11:22
Because here's the thing with these SSRIs that I talked about a little bit earlier,
1:11:25
almost all these people are on antidepressants. And we as a country give out more antidepressants
1:11:31
than the rest of the world combined. The most affluent rich country on the planet,
1:11:36
the most affluent country in the history of the planet, really, we give out more SSRIs to these
1:11:42
kids. Because you have a lazy, stupid teacher in elementary school that just can't handle,
1:11:47
you know, this boys, you know, it's, you know, his energy. And so we got to give them Ritalin or,
1:11:53
oh, this, this kids just, you know, have a little bit of problem in school and, you know, maybe he's
1:11:57
not making friends. So, so let's give them these SSRIs. Let's give these things to people that are
1:12:02
changing their brain chemistry, because we can't figure out another thing to do. Because you're
1:12:05
not allowed to prescribe exercises, somebody you're not allowed to prescribe, you know, healthy eating
1:12:10
to somebody, you basically just give them a pill, we live in a country where you just get,
1:12:13
you know, an orange bottle with a white top. And you use that until that stops working. And then you
1:12:19
get some other stuff and then you just keep adding and adding and adding adding. There was a person
1:12:22
in my life here recently, someone that I'm very, very close with that was having kind of a rough
1:12:25
go at it spent about five minutes talking to their doctor about it. And the doctor gave them Zoloft.
1:12:30
Something that changes the composition, the chemical composition of your brain,
1:12:37
based on, and I'm five minutes is probably being too generous, based on a few minutes of
1:12:41
understanding and the person requesting it. And then all of a sudden, yeah, here, go ahead,
1:12:46
we'll just take this in the short term, you know, for six to 12 months, as if it's no big deal.
1:12:51
Have you ever read, just go to Google, you know, if you're in a safe place where you can do this
1:12:54
and just look up the side effects for Zoloft and tell me that that's just no big deal, right?
1:13:00
And yet we're just feeding these to our kids like their Skittles in addition to giving them Skittles,
1:13:04
right? We need to address both of those issues. Another thing is that we need to address the end
1:13:09
of shame, because there isn't there seemingly an end to shame in this culture. And I talk about
1:13:14
shame quite a bit on the show, because I think shame is one of the best motivators possible.
1:13:18
Why do I not just sit around and, you know, watch television and not exercise and eat a bunch of
1:13:22
crappy food? Because of the shame I would feel if I had to buy new clothes because I got too fat.
1:13:26
The shame I would feel that if I tried to do something physically that I wouldn't be able to
1:13:32
do that, that is a shameful thing. But also, what about the shame for these officers that decided
1:13:39
that their lives were more important than the kids that were being systematically murdered
1:13:43
inside of the school? Where's all the shame for these guys? These cowards, which again, yeah,
1:13:49
easy for me to say. I'm sitting here in my air conditioning, you know, studio fully safe and all
1:13:53
that. But guess what? I didn't sign up for that job. They did. You signed up for the job to protect
1:14:00
the local populace. You signed up to be a professional sheepdog. And while kids were
1:14:06
being systematically murdered inside of the school, you were sitting outside arresting parents.
1:14:10
Pushing them back saying, Oh, we don't know. We're waiting on the key, right? The level of shame
1:14:18
should be elevated in our society, because it is a great, great motivator. And the last thing
1:14:22
here on the macro issues is address societal cowardice. We saw that again with these officers
1:14:28
that decide they didn't want to go inside. We see it with school administrators that don't want to
1:14:32
address the scary kid in the corner because they don't want the kid to be signaled out. They want,
1:14:36
you know, potentially this kid is LGBTQ. And if they do it, and after school conference with this
1:14:40
person, they're going to be brought up as some sort of a bigot. It's going to be talked about on
1:14:43
Twitter and they might lose their job. There's this cowardice in our society that we're unwilling to
1:14:47
do things because, you know, one thing that I didn't see that kind of gets rid of this whole
1:14:51
narrative that, you know, we're raising kids in this community. Think about all the parents that
1:14:55
didn't have firearms that we're willing to run into that school to try and get their kids to just
1:15:00
figure it out once they got in there. Maybe that's dumb. Maybe that's a silly thing to do. But I
1:15:05
would like to think that I would be one of the parents that would be looking for my way to get
1:15:08
in to grab the nearest firearm, which for me is typically in a vehicle and to do what I need to do
1:15:13
to get my kids back and to save the other kids as well, right? But we have this societal cowardice
1:15:20
that you're not allowed to say anything that makes somebody feel bad. You're not allowed to
1:15:23
do anything that's going to make someone feel uncomfortable and it leads to this unbelievable
1:15:27
cowardice. Okay. And guys, while we focus on the short term micro issues and on some of the longer
1:15:34
term macro issues, we also have to deal with the real issue, which is evil. Evil that comes from
1:15:42
the brokenness in the world, a world that that was broken by sin. Guys, we need to have more of
1:15:48
Jesus. He is the only answer to evil. God gave his son to us so that there would be a payment,
1:15:58
there would be a payment for the judgment that he put on humanity. And it was only by his blood
1:16:04
that we can be saved from that judgment ourselves because Christians aren't out there performing
1:16:09
mass murders. So is having more Christians in this country going to be a negative? Absolutely
1:16:15
not. Because here's thing, guys, is even if we put armed security at every school, evil would
1:16:20
still take place. You know, even if we confiscate every single gun in existence, evil would still
1:16:28
take place. It goes beyond the gun problem. Okay, this goes beyond the mental health crisis.
1:16:33
This goes beyond security and warfare and all these different things. This is the product of the
1:16:37
fall. This is a sin problem. If you're listening to this today, you have not accepted Christ. If
1:16:44
you have not given your life over to him, if you have not put your trust in him tying for your sins,
1:16:51
do that. Understand that the Holy Spirit is calling you to that. Just accept it. Just do it. I know
1:16:58
all my Calvin, his friends are freaking out right now. Oh, you can't accept it. It's a free will or
1:17:01
something. Just accept it. This is a big deal. This is how we solve all these issues. It's our
1:17:09
first and only step in a lot in a lot of in a lot of ways, really. But before we get out of here today,
1:17:14
and again, I know we're going long, but this is all just very, very important. And I hope that this,
1:17:18
you know, this podcast stands up over time as well. We need to talk about the Bible. We need to talk
1:17:23
about the scripture that I talked about from the beginning from the a lot of people you're hearing
1:17:27
something like, but the Bible says to turn the other cheek, gotta, you know, Kyle, a lot of stuff
1:17:30
you're talking about has to do with self defense. And you know, you know, carrying weapons and all
1:17:33
that. And you know, the Bible's against that. So anti gun folks will quote this at Christians often.
1:17:38
And I do find that interesting because how interesting is it that the same people that claim everything
1:17:43
is a human right, like health care and housing and free education and free child care? You know,
1:17:48
these are all the same people that say you should not have the human right to be able to defend
1:17:51
yourself. But I digress, you'll even hear this, you know, turn the other cheek language from
1:17:55
Christians. And you'll hear this from Christians that aren't even sure who who said it, right?
1:18:00
Christians will quote this realizing or not realizing that this is what Jesus was talking about.
1:18:05
And they certainly don't understand the context. So let's go back to it. This is what I read from
1:18:08
the beginning, Matthew 539. But I say to you, do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone
1:18:14
slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. But we need to read this entire section.
1:18:19
Okay. So let's read Matthew 538 through 41. Okay, these are, they're all the words of Jesus.
1:18:25
You have heard it was said, and I for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. But I say to you,
1:18:29
do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other
1:18:33
also. And if anyone would sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. And if
1:18:38
anyone forces you to go a mile, go with him two miles, give the one who begs from you and do not
1:18:43
refuse the one who would borrow from you. Okay. Now let's talk about verse 38. Okay. When Jesus
1:18:48
was referring to I for an eye tooth for tooth, he's quoting Exodus 21 24 Leviticus 24 20 and
1:18:53
Deuteronomy 19 21. They all talk about I for an eye tooth for a tooth. Now the original intent of
1:18:58
these three passages was to limit the amount of punishment for a crime to that which would be
1:19:02
equitable to the original crime. Okay. So you weren't to give a greater punishment or exact a
1:19:09
greater vengeance than the original crime would have warranted. Okay. Now we need to get to verse 39,
1:19:14
the turn the other cheek first. I really like how got questions.org framed this. So I want to
1:19:18
share this with you. Jesus's command to turn the other cheek in Matthew 5 39 has to do with our
1:19:23
response to personal slides and offenses. Some situations may call for self defense,
1:19:29
but not retaliation and kind. The context of Jesus's command is his teaching against the idea of
1:19:34
I for an eye tooth for a tooth and verse 38. Our self defense is not a vengeful reaction
1:19:40
to an offense. Okay. In fact, many offenses can simply be absorbed in forbearance and love.
1:19:47
Okay. And I there was a little bit of an addition from my Reformation study Bible commentary,
1:19:50
which gave us this little tidbit. The slap on the right cheek is a backhanded one and insult
1:19:57
as well as injury. Okay. So just think about it. Like if you're right handed, which most of us are,
1:20:02
if you slap someone on their right cheek, you're doing that with the back of your right hand.
1:20:06
So this just furthers the idea that Jesus was talking about this as it came to personal
1:20:11
slides and personal offenses. Okay. And so at, you know, as recorded in Matthew 5,
1:20:16
you know, it's not advocating for us not to defend ourselves. Okay. That that idea is silly.
1:20:21
But we need to also look at other parts of the Bible as well. You know, the more words of Jesus.
1:20:25
So as recorded in Luke 22, this is just before Jesus prays on the Mount of Olives and just before
1:20:30
his betrayal and arrest. So let's go to Luke 22 starting in verse 35. And he said to them,
1:20:35
when I sent you out with no money bag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything? They said,
1:20:40
nothing. He said to them, this is Jesus. But now let the one who has the money bag take it
1:20:46
and likewise his knapsack and let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.
1:20:51
If I tell you that this scripture must be fulfilled in me and he was numbered with the transgressors
1:20:56
for what is written about me has its fulfillment. Okay. So guys, even though Jesus is using metaphor
1:21:02
in this passage, basically any commentary will tell you this is all metaphor. It was common
1:21:06
knowledge at this time that having a weapon was normal for protection of self defense. That was
1:21:10
common knowledge at the day that this was written. Okay. So we can surmise that Jesus would not have
1:21:16
used this language if he was expressly against the use of a sword for self defense or just
1:21:21
against self defense in general. So later in that chapter that we see in Luke 22,
1:21:26
they acknowledge that they do not have to or that they do have two swords amongst the disciples.
1:21:31
Okay. They have two of them and pretty sure Jesus could have made them get rid of those swords
1:21:36
if he thought self defense was wrong. You would assume that we would have heard something about
1:21:40
that. Also, other places in the Bible where it shows that there's no real ban on self defense
1:21:45
and there's a lot of them, but I just want to point to a few. So this is Jesus has recorded in
1:21:49
Luke 11 versus 14 through 23. Now he was casting out a demon that was mute. When the demon had gone
1:21:54
out, the mute man spoke and the people marveled, but some of them said he casts out demons by
1:21:58
Beelzebub, the prince of demons, while others to test him kept seeking from him, assigned from
1:22:03
heaven. But he knowing their thoughts said to them, these are the words of Jesus. Every kingdom
1:22:08
divided against itself is laid to waste and a divided household falls. And if Satan also is
1:22:13
divided against himself, how will his kingdom stand? For you say that I cast out demons by Beelzebub.
1:22:18
And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore,
1:22:23
they will be your judges. But if it is by the finger of God that I cast out demons,
1:22:27
then the kingdom of God has come upon you. When a strong man fully armed guards his own palace,
1:22:33
his goods are safe. But when one stronger than he attacks him and overcomes him, he takes away
1:22:38
his armor in which he is trusted and divides his spoils. Whoever is not with me is against
1:22:43
me and whoever does not gather with me scatters. So again, you have to ask yourself in light of
1:22:49
verse 21, where he talks about strong man fully armed guards his own palace, his goods being safe.
1:22:54
Why would Jesus use the language of self defense in this parable if self defense in and of itself
1:22:59
was immoral? Because Jesus, I can't recall a time where he's teaching via a parable and is using
1:23:05
sin in order to make his point, right? And then again, I also talk about the book of Nehemiah,
1:23:10
often in this podcast, going back to Nehemiah for verses 17 through 18, those who carried burdens
1:23:15
were loaded in such a way that each labored on the work with one hand and held a weapon with the
1:23:19
other. And each of the builders had his sword strapped at his side while he built. So obviously,
1:23:24
we're talking about a self defense situation. You see that all throughout the book of Nehemiah,
1:23:28
and then you go to Exodus versus Exodus two versus two and three. If a thief is found breaking in
1:23:34
and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no blood guilt for him. But if the sun has risen on
1:23:39
him, there shall be blood guilt for him. So this is where you get the concept of castle doctrine.
1:23:43
So also, this is where we get a defensive personal property rights, you know, sorry, Karl Marx,
1:23:48
and, you know, seems to be advocating for a meek and tempered response. So obviously,
1:23:52
someone breaks in the middle night and you stripe them so that they died. They kind of had to come
1:23:56
in. But if you do it in the middle of day and you have the ability to get help and the ability to
1:23:59
take care of that situation another way, we're encouraged to do that. So in total, the Bible gives
1:24:04
many examples of the appropriateness of defense, specifically self defense, right? And it does seem
1:24:10
to strike a hard line with appropriate levels of defense, right, which takes us all back to the
1:24:15
founders. Okay, because we do have to kind of bring this around to the Second Amendment. We're
1:24:19
kind of winding towards a close here. There was a great piece that a member of my team, Matt,
1:24:23
here at Undaunted Life shared with me, it's from David Barton in the Liberty University Law Review.
1:24:28
And this is from October the October of 2014. I'll make sure this is in the show notes,
1:24:32
but this was a great section here. So let me read from it. The founding fathers established
1:24:36
American government with the primary purpose of securing to every individual the right to
1:24:40
practice his or her inalienable rights. As the Declaration of Independence announced,
1:24:44
we hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by
1:24:49
their creator with certain unalienable rights that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit
1:24:53
of happiness that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men. Three straightforward
1:24:59
principles of American government are set forth in these words. One, there is a creator. Two,
1:25:04
he gives certain inalienable rights to man. And three, government exists first and foremost to
1:25:10
secure to every individual the exercise of his or her God given rights. In addition to the rights
1:25:16
of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, that is the right to own private property listed
1:25:20
in the declaration, the bill of rights listed other God given rights, such as freedom of religion,
1:25:25
freedom of speech, justice in the court system, and many more, including the second amendment
1:25:29
right to keep and bear arms, ie the biblical right of self defense. Because this right was
1:25:34
given by God, the founding fathers urged training for its possible use. So again, all that addresses,
1:25:41
people that say there's no way that we should be able to defend ourselves. That is a biblical
1:25:46
doctrine. Self defense is there this idea that the amago day does not need to be protected.
1:25:52
That is ridiculous. And that can be used with this argument on this issue, the abortion argument,
1:25:56
any other argument, this idea that we should not protect the image of God that is written on each
1:26:01
human dual person is obviously absurd. And this idea that the founders of this country had no
1:26:06
idea what they were doing when they put down the second amendment right after the first amendment
1:26:10
is also ridiculous. But I do want to sum up my thoughts today by asking this very, very important
1:26:16
question, because I think it may all hinge on this. How will taking my firearms away from me
1:26:22
stop people from being murdered with firearms? How? To the law buying citizens like me that will
1:26:32
never take part in a mass murder ever in our lives, how is taking away our ability to protect
1:26:38
ourselves going to stop people from being murdered with firearms? As I talked about here now for
1:26:45
the last, you know, close to 90 minutes, it's an absolute farce. It's ridiculous. And I hope that
1:26:50
all this has been helpful for you guys. I'm so glad I was able to have the time to kind of put this
1:26:53
together for you. All right, guys, before we let you go, we are going to do a quick resilience
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