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- This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast.
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I'm your host, Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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Clap your hands, all peoples.
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Shout to God with loud songs of joy.
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Guys, that is Psalms 417, and that is the same scripture,
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same scripture rather than I used last Thursday
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because I am still very, very excited
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and you should be as well.
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There's a lot of stuff to talk about today
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about the fallout of everything that's happened
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after the drop of the Roe v. Wade decision.
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But guys, before we get to that,
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And so we're not gonna be doing a quick hitter segment
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this week because we've got way, way, way too much
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to discuss.
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And guys, we're likely gonna get into some great stuff
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next week because the Supreme Court of the United States
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has been on a heater lately.
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And so we need to talk about a lot of those different things,
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but nothing can be bigger than talking about the fallout
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of owner overturning Roe v. Wade in Planned Parenthood
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versus Casey.
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And a little quick aside about that.
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So last week whenever my buddy Brandon called me
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and told me about it, you know, told me the news
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and I immediately did like an Instagram live
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or something like that.
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And I immediately went up and recorded for whatever reason
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on that Instagram live and on last Thursday's episode
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I said Dovie Casey as opposed to Planned Parenthood
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versus Casey.
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Like I don't even know what Dovie Casey is.
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I think it has to do with some like CIA case
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or something like that.
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Whatever reason, Dovie Casey was stuck in my head.
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And so I rerecorded that one little section
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and re uploaded last week's episode,
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but there were probably several thousand of you
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that heard me say Dovie Casey.
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But yes, I do know what I'm talking about.
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I just misspoke.
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So I didn't want to kind of get that out there to you.
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But I'm going to go ahead and read these words
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from Samuel Alito's majority opinion
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because they are really some of the greatest words
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ever written.
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And guys, I will have the entire decision in the show notes.
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Like, you know, there is some legal ease in there,
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but especially just as Thomas's decision.
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Like man, it's just aces,
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but I have to read this from Samuel Alito's
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majority decision here.
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We hold that row in Casey must be overruled.
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The constitution makes no reference to abortion
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and no such right is implicitly protected
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by any constitutional provision,
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including the one on which the defenders of row
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in Casey now chiefly rely.
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The due process clause of the 14th amendment,
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that provision has been held to guarantee rights
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that are not mentioned in the constitution.
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But any such right must be deeply rooted
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in this nation's history and tradition
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and implicit in the concept of ordered liberty.
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So that's basically the those are the words right there
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that made row and Casey go to the trash heap of history.
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Just amazing.
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But it was interesting.
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It's interesting to note this about the dissenting opinions.
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So we had three dissenting justices in this opinion.
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That's Elena Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor and Stephen Breyer
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who's about to be leaving the court
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for Cantonji Brown Jackson.
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But basically in their dissents,
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they give their dissenting opinions
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and they're not using a single constitutionally based argument.
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Like none at all.
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Again, you could read it right there in the decisions
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in the entire court opinion
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because there is no constitutional right to an abortion.
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Because in actuality, nobody,
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including the three dissenting Supreme Court justices
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are making a legal or judicially based claim
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as to why Roe v. Wade should not have been struck down.
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It was all, you know, feelings and precedent.
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And again, precedent is only important
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to these people when it's something that they like,
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when it's a decision that they don't like
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or something that, you know, is clearly unjust.
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They're, you know, they're all about precedent then,
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but right now they're, they're trying to force precedent in
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and they're, they're not saying that it's a good thing.
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Like it's just, it's a whole bunch of nonsense.
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And right from the jump here guys in here in a second,
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I'm going to give you kind of the rundown
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of what today's episode's going to be.
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Let me tell you what I'm not going to be doing today.
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Okay, the first thing I'm not going to be doing
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is a deep dive into the legal breakdown
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of the Dobbs v. Jackson women's health case, okay?
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So the reason is is because that's not really my forte, right?
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So I'm not a lawyer.
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I don't understand a lot of the legales.
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I'm also not going to be doing a deep dive
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of the reactions by woke lefty Christians.
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I will have a little bit of that in here,
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but I'm not doing a deep, deep dive into that, okay?
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So I did my immediate reactions last Thursday.
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So I'm not giving you immediate reactions now.
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I'm going to go a little bit deeper.
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But for your edification,
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I'm going to refer you to a couple of different folks
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for kind of the legal breakdown
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and then kind of the woke lefty breakdown.
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So I thought that Ben Shapiro on last week's episode,
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it was episode 15, 22, goodbye Roe v. Wade.
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He did a great job of breaking down kind of the legal standards
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that we're using in this case.
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And then in terms of the woke lefty Christian breakdown stuff,
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I'm going to refer you to my buddy, John Cooper,
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because of an episode 118 of Cooper stuff entitled,
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"Goodbye, Roe, my emotional roller coaster."
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He basically hammered a lot of these woke Christians
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and kind of the stuff that they're doing.
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And so I don't really just want to repeat
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the things that they're saying.
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So I will have a link in the show notes
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to Ben Shapiro's episode and to John Cooper's episode.
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But here's what I'm going to be going over today
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for this podcast so you can kind of know where we're going.
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So I'm going to give the immediate reactions to the news
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that we got from all over the place.
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The narratives that have come out
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since the Dobbs decision was handed down.
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The narratives that should have come out
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since the Dobbs decision was handed down.
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What we can expect to see and need to watch for.
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And then I've got just a few random thoughts
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and then at the end, that's where the rubber
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really, really meets the road.
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And that's the work that needs to be done now
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on the pro-life side, on the Christian side of this issue.
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Now also, in case you don't listen to the entire episode,
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I want to make sure you know this,
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that there are going to be some resources
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that will equip you guys mentally and spiritually
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to push back against pro-abortion rhetoric.
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All these things are going to be in the show notes.
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So episode 257 of this podcast,
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it's called How to Engage Pro-abortion Arguments.
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It's one of the most important episodes we've ever done,
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perhaps the most important episode that we've ever done.
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You can really dig into the different arguments.
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And so today I'm not going to be doing a lot of debunking
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of pro-abortion arguments because I've done that
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so often before, but episode 257.
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But also a couple of books that really influenced me
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in this particular topic.
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So it's a book, Abortion by the Great RC Sproul.
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And then also the book What to Say Win
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by Sean Carney and Steve Carlin.
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These books are great resources to kind of equip you
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to think about this issue in a spiritual way,
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but also to think about it in a rhetorical way
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to where you can push back against these things.
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And also before we start digging into immediate reactions
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and everything, there are a lot of people
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that deserve our gratitude for Roe v. Wade
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and for Planned Parenthood versus Casey being overturned.
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So the first is not technically a person,
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but the first is God, obviously.
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God was able to do so many things to be able to allow us
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to have this happen, that it's only by his sovereignty
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that we have the ability to even be excited
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about what's happening right now.
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Also, all of the people that have dedicated their time,
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energy and money to the pro-life cause
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over the last almost 50 years.
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There are a lot of people that have been a part
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of this cause that are not here anymore,
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that did not get to see this day,
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but it's because of all those incremental things
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that we've done over time.
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I know some of you are like incrementalism bad,
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but all those incremental things done over time
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got us to where we were last Friday.
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Also, the justices that voted to completely overturn
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and overrule Roe and Casey.
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So suck it, John Roberts,
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one of the only spineless jellyfish that he is,
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he was not technically a part of that.
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He voted for the Dobbs decision,
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but not to overturn Roe and Casey.
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So the justices that voted for completely overturning
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those unbelievably terrible cases were Samuel Alito,
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Clarence Thomas, the goat, Neil Gorsuch,
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Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett.
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And the courage it took for them to do this,
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after the leak, the courage,
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especially for a guy like Kavanaugh,
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there was someone tried to kill Justice Kavanaugh at his home,
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right?
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And they still had the courage to go through with this.
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So they definitely deserve a lot of praise in our gratitude.
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Also, George W. Bush,
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for nominating the guy that wrote the majority opinion,
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Samuel Alito, his father, George H.W. Bush,
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for nominating the goat, Clarence Thomas
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and putting him on the court.
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And then Donald J. Trump for nominating Neil Gorsuch,
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Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett in that order.
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But also one other person that I really thought about
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in terms of all this was cocaine Mitch McConnell, okay?
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Senator from Kentucky,
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he did some finagling towards the end
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of the Obama administration that kept Merrick Garland
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off of the court.
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And because of what he did,
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he also was able to get Amy Coney Barrett on the court.
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So a lot of Republicans, for whatever reason,
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don't like Mitch McConnell, you know, whatever.
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But I will always remember Mitch McConnell
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for doing the things that he could do in the Senate
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to make sure that an extremist like Merrick Garland
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did not end up on the court
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and it opened the door for ACB.
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But also and again, before we get into everything again,
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we're going to cover a lot of ground today.
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We cannot forget that over 60 million babies were murdered
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because of the almost 50 year reign
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of Roe v. Wade in this country.
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There's a lot of chest bump
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and a lot of high five been going on right now.
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And I'm all for it.
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I'm here for all of it.
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But man, I just think about that number.
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There are, if you count everyone that's here,
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legally or illegally in this country,
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it's about 350 million people.
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60 million have been murdered over about 50 years.
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We're killing on average a million babies a year
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in this country, okay?
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That can't be forgotten.
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But let's go ahead and get into the immediate reactions
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to the news.
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So immediately there were trigger laws in states
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that went into effect all over the country.
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So let's break down where the states are right now
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'cause this is very, very, very important.
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So a quick note from the beginning is no state
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will technically be 100% in terms of banning abortion
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because every single state in the union right now
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has an allowance for abortion to quote unquote,
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save the life of the mother,
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which as I've explained before, is not a real category.
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There is not something that can happen
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not in ectopic pregnancy, not septic uterus,
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not, you know, into our chromium immunitis
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or like there's nothing that could happen with the mother
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where the only thing that you can do from a medical side
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is kill the baby that's inside of her.
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That is a falsehood that's been spread out all over the place,
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but to save the life of the mother,
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it's not technically a category anymore,
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but let's go ahead and get into the breakdown of the states.
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So here are the states that as of right now
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have a total ban except to save the mother.
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So that's Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Texas,
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Missouri, South Dakota, Wisconsin, and West Virginia.
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Now here are the states that have a near total ban
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except to save the mother and then also in the cases
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of rape or incest.
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So you have my state, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Idaho, Utah,
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Tennessee, North Dakota, and Wyoming.
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Then here are the states that have pre viability abortion ban.
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So by viability, they technically mean about 22 weeks
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'cause that's about, you know,
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usually the laws are between 22 and 24 weeks
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because that's when a baby can with help live outside the womb.
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So think heartbeat bills.
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So here are the states that have those things on the books.
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That's Ohio, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina,
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South Carolina, Indiana, Nebraska, and Iowa.
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So that is half the states that's 25 states
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with some kind of an abortion ban, you know,
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a significant abortion ban if you can call it that.
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But then we have to get into the states
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that have other categories.
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So here are the bans up to the point of viability, okay?
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Bands up to that point, not pre viability,
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but up to that point.
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So Montana, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Kansas, and Virginia.
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Then we get into the very states
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with very, very few restrictions even after viability.
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So that's Maryland, California, Hawaii, Delaware,
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Connecticut, Illinois, Maine, Massachusetts, New York,
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Rhode Island, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nevada.
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And then we get into the worst of the worst states.
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These are the states with no restrictions whatsoever
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on abortion.
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That's New Jersey, Oregon, Alaska, Colorado, Minnesota,
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New Mexico, and Vermont.
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So a quick note here, there will still be some movements
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in a lot of these states, okay?
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So some states are going to be moving to change
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their state constitutions to enshrine the right to abortion
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while other states are going to move to ban abortions completely.
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We're going to see a lot of moving parts here
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over the next several months.
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We're having sessions, you know, state houses
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that were out of session that are being brought
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into session to talk into this.
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And so technically everything in between
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is going to be up in the air at this point,
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but that's kind of where we sit right now.
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But some other reactions here.
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Co-President Biden was woken up from his third nap
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of the morning to give, and he was given this news.
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They wheeled him out in front of the camera
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long enough for him to say how disappointed he was
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in this decision.
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You know, he actually said, you know, abortion
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is going to be on the ballot in November.
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And again, as I've said on the show before,
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people really vote emotionally.
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So maybe this will have an impact on the electorate,
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but it seems clear that right now people are going
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to be voting with gas prices and inflation in mind.
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But, you know, we'll see in November.
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Biden called last Friday's decision a sad day, okay?
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And the fact that he called it a sad day,
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that was a direct quote, should tell you everything
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you need to know about this guy's supposed Catholic faith.
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He's such a deeply devout Catholic.
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And yet he called it a sad day
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when the United States Supreme Court decided to hand
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the decision back to states as to whether or not
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they should be able to kill babies, sad day.
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Also, his administration made the almost immediate move
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to allow federal employees to have their sick days
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covered if they need to leave the state for quote unquote,
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healthcare, okay?
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So considering the timing of this
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and considering the language of that,
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this is clearly about people that need to leave the state
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for abortion.
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This is technically a breach of the Hyde Amendment,
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which is where the federal government cannot fund abortion.
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But again, Joe Biden spent 40 years of his life saying,
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yes, Hyde Amendment good.
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And until five seconds ago, he's like,
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now, you know, Hyde Amendment bad.
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But, you know, we don't know if that's actually gonna come
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to court or something like that.
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But that is technically a breach of that amendment.
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Also some reactions prominent Democrats,
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like Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi
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and Senator Elizabeth Warren,
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they've called for the ending of the filibuster in the Senate
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and to his credit or maybe just by he said it by accident,
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co-president Biden said he wasn't considering a push for that,
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but that was an immediate reaction.
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Another reaction is like magic.
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This was, this was truly magical, okay?
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That this was like watching David Blaine up close.
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Every leftist in Democrat in the country
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remembered what a woman is.
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And we'll talk way more about that here in a second,
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but that was like the immediate reaction.
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It's like, all this talk of women's rights
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and what are women gonna do?
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And women are gonna die.
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It's like, do you hear yourself?
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Have you been hearing the stuff you've been saying?
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The rest of Pride Month, which guys,
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isn't this the best way to cap off of Pride Month,
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turning it from Pride Month into life month?
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I mean, I think it's great.
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Some other reactions, protests all over the country.
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So especially in DC outside the Supreme Court.
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But up to this point,
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and there are a lot of entities
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that are kind of like paying attention to this,
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the protests have not been as bad
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as I thought they were gonna be, okay?
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So, protestors essentially held politicians captive
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in the Arizona State House and that was terrible and horrific.
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There was a cop that was set ablaze
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by this guy that was using like a flamethrower
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in Los Angeles, absolutely horrific.
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I think the cop did survive.
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But we haven't seen what I was expecting to see,
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which was basically George Floyd's summer all over.
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It's still to be seen, we're not even a week out.
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So we have to kind of keep paying attention to that.
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But there are a lot of democratic politicians out there
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that are using very insurrection-y type language.
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They're just kind of throwing it out there, you know,
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fight like hell, we've got to fight back
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and we've got to do all these different things.
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Basically the same things they got onto Trump for saying,
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right before the January 6th, you know,
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storming in the Capitol, right?
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But hey, that's neither here nor there apparently.
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Another reaction is abortion clinics
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in several states immediately.
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Like that morning, last Friday morning,
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they paused their planned baby executions
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that they had on the books for that morning.
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I mean, the same morning that the Dobbs decision
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was handed down, they paused all of their murders,
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which I mean, I mean, super duper praise God
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for that one, right?
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But then we also had some reactions from many Christians,
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Christian churches and, you know, Christian organizations,
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they showed their full-throated excitement
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over the news.
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But there were a lot that didn't, okay?
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And that's something that we need to be paying attention to
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because something that I put out on social media is that
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if your pastor did not mention anything
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about the Roe v. Wade decision being overturned
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this past weekend, you should maybe be wary
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of that man over time.
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Because that doesn't mean you have to get rid
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of whatever you're gonna be talking about that Sunday,
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but you should at least address it, right?
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I mean, you ultimately should address it.
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There was some [inaudible] on Instagram
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that's kind of in the same space that I am
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that is like, you shouldn't be telling pastors
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what they should or shouldn't say
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and all these different things.
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And it's like, well, yeah, I can tell my pastor
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you should say this.
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I can technically do whatever I want, right?
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It's whether the pastor takes it under advisement.
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But if a pastor is not showing
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tremendous amounts of excitement over this,
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like, yes, you should be worried about that person
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because ultimately, aside from the Emancipation Proclamation,
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this was the biggest legislative achievement
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in the history of the United States
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that was mainly pushed by Christians.
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Like, can you name me another one
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that was this significant?
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Because again, it was mainly Christians for these 50 years
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that were pushing to get Roe v. Wade overturned, right?
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Why, why in the world would we not celebrate that?
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Again, at my church, right, there were just,
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there was a mention during the prayer
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and a mention at the very beginning of the sermon.
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And then my pastor got back into talking about Proverbs.
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Totally fine, he acknowledged it, right?
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And then there were certain pastors
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that just crumbled up their sermon for that Sunday
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and just said, hey, we're gonna do,
17:41
we're gonna push the schedule back
17:42
and we're gonna talk about that this week.
17:44
And I thought that would be amazing.
17:45
But also one little side note is,
17:46
where are all the pro-lifers for Biden people?
17:49
They seem to be awfully quiet right now,
17:51
these people that just, you know,
17:52
they couldn't get behind Trump, right?
17:54
Even though he's one of the main reasons
17:55
why this even happened, but where are they now?
17:58
Isn't that interesting?
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- Also, immediate reactions.
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We had companies all over the United States, okay?
18:35
They immediately began stumbling over themselves
18:37
to announce that they would be paying for the women
18:40
that work at their companies to kill their unborn babies
18:43
if they so decided to, but didn't have access
18:47
to an assassin in the state that they currently resided, okay?
18:50
So here's a list of companies,
18:51
and these are in no particular order,
18:53
but there's maybe even more since, you know,
18:55
I started putting these notes together a few weeks ago,
18:57
but I am keeping a list of the companies
18:59
that will pay for women to murder their babies.
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Disney, Tesla, Lulu Lemon, Dix,
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more on them here in a second, Comcast,
19:06
that's NBC Universal, City Group, Salesforce,
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Match Group, Bumble, Lyft, Microsoft, Apple,
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Meta, Yelp, Uber, Netflix, Box.com, Levi Strauss,
19:17
Warner Brothers Discovery, Nike, Starbucks,
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Kroger, Alaska Airlines, Zillow, Goldman Sachs, Amazon,
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Reddit, DoorDash, Airbnb, MasterCard, Patagonia, PayPal,
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JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, and Match.com.
19:31
And more seemingly being announced every day, okay?
19:34
There was even an open letter that went around,
19:36
so apparently Amazon employees went a step further.
19:39
They sent an open letter to the company's management,
19:41
demanding that their employees get time off to mourn
19:45
the ending of Roe v. Wade.
19:47
Also, they demanded that the company stop operating
19:50
completely in states with pro-life laws, okay?
19:52
So that's the thing that happened.
19:53
But let's talk about Dix, which is, you know, aptly named.
19:56
There was a joint statement that was released by Ed Stack
19:59
who's the former CEO, long-time CEO of Dix Sporting Goods,
20:01
and Lauren Hobert, who is the current CEO.
20:03
So I just have to read this entire thing
20:05
because it was making the rounds,
20:07
and it's absolutely astonishing,
20:08
and then we'll kind of break it down.
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Dear teammates, you are the heart of our business,
20:12
and we are committed to protecting your health and wellbeing.
20:15
Today, the Supreme Court announced the decision
20:16
to overturn Roe v. Wade, removing the federal right
20:19
to an abortion and leaving the decision up to each state.
20:22
While we do not know what that decision at each state
20:25
will make in response to this ruling,
20:26
we at Dix Sporting Goods are prepared to ensure
20:28
that all teammates have consistent and safe access
20:31
to the benefits we provide, regardless of the state
20:33
in which you live, and this is in bold here in their letter.
20:36
In response to today's ruling,
20:37
we are announcing that if the state
20:40
that you live in restricts access to abortion,
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Dix Sporting Goods will provide up to $4,000
20:46
in travel expense reimbursement
20:47
to travel to the nearest location
20:49
where that care is legally available.
20:51
This benefit will be provided to any teammate, spouse,
20:54
or dependent enrolled in our medical plan,
20:56
along with one support person.
20:58
We recognize people feel passionately about this topic
21:00
and that there are teammates and athletes
21:02
who will not agree with this decision.
21:03
However, we also recognize that decisions
21:05
involving health and families are deeply personal
21:07
and made with thoughtful consideration.
21:10
We are making this decision on our,
21:12
so our teammates can access the same health care options,
21:14
regardless of where they live,
21:15
so choose and can choose what is best for them.
21:18
Okay, so that's from Dix Sporting Goods.
21:20
So the interesting thing about Dix
21:22
and all these other companies
21:24
is that they are willing to pay thousands of dollars
21:27
for women to leave the state that they're in
21:30
in order to kill their babies, okay?
21:33
They're willing to do that.
21:35
But most of these companies have terrible
21:38
or non-existent maternity policies.
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Dix Sporting Goods, in particular,
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they don't have a maternity policy.
21:45
You essentially don't get paid for that time
21:47
or you just have to take the time off
21:48
or you just end up not working there, okay?
21:51
So essentially, they want you to kill your kid
21:54
so that you can stay at work.
21:55
This is Dix in the rest of them.
21:56
They want you to kill your kids so you can stay at work
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and allow them, the company, to profit off of your work,
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and they will financially incentivize you to do so.
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But if you choose to have the kid,
22:08
they don't really care to help you.
22:09
That's not really what they're there for.
22:11
They don't really care about their maternity policy.
22:12
They'd much rather show out the money
22:14
for you to kill your kid.
22:15
So these companies would rather pay a few thousand bucks
22:17
here or there to have a woman kill her baby
22:20
than to potentially lose her productivity
22:22
for a few months or potentially for life.
22:24
That's what this is, okay?
22:25
So to be clear, these companies do not care
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about women at all.
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Like a lot of people like, oh, this is great.
22:29
This is so wonderful.
22:31
These people care about women.
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No, no, no, they don't care about these women at all.
22:33
These companies care about money, okay?
22:36
And if a woman has more children,
22:39
then the likelihood of her being more loyal to her family
22:42
than to her company goes up considerably.
22:44
I mean, obviously they know that.
22:46
And so this is just basic mathematics.
22:48
It is much cheaper to pay a woman to kill her child
22:52
than to pay for her maternity leave
22:54
and to pay for an additional person
22:55
that's gonna be added to the health insurance plan, okay?
22:58
This is the altruism,
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not by any stretch of the imagination.
23:02
And these companies are being praised for it,
23:04
which just think about how crazy that is.
23:06
We want you to kill your kids.
23:08
And hey, it's no big deal, right?
23:09
That's just kind of crazy.
23:11
But one of the members of my team here at Undaunted Life,
23:13
they said something to me along these lines.
23:15
It was in reference to all these women, you know,
23:17
walking around and handmaids tail outfits
23:19
outside the Supreme Court and all these different things.
23:21
They're pretending like they're living in a United States
23:24
that that is just absolutely all over them, right?
23:27
But the thing about it is pretending like the life
23:31
they're living right now in the US
23:32
is anything at all, like what is described
23:35
in the women from the novel is absurd, okay?
23:38
But what my buddy was talking about
23:39
is how dystopian it is that modern companies
23:42
are paying women to kill their children
23:45
so they can stay at work and be more productive.
23:47
That's the handmaid's tail.
23:49
That's the dystopian novel, right?
23:52
That's more like the handmaid's tail
23:53
than anything we've seen in modern society, okay?
23:56
And a little side note before we move off this reaction.
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If you live in one of these murder vacation states
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because a lot of states came out immediately
24:03
and we're like, "Hey, come to our state."
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No, we'll use taxpayer funding
24:05
to make sure you can come here and kill your baby
24:07
or if you're living in one of these states
24:08
that is near a state that is banning this
24:10
and you know, Dick's Sporting Goods
24:11
is sending people over into your state to kill their babies.
24:14
So states like California, Illinois, New Jersey, Connecticut
24:17
and so on, they're gonna start advertising
24:20
for these women to travel to their state
24:22
to get an abortion.
24:22
They're gonna be using your taxpayer dollars to do that.
24:25
So those of you that live there,
24:27
then you really should consider moving
24:30
because your tax dollars are going to be directly paying
24:33
for women to have a vacation in your city
24:36
with a baby in their stomach
24:38
and to leave without one in their stomach.
24:40
I mean, that's pretty rough.
24:43
And I don't know your situation
24:46
and you know, I don't know where you live
24:48
and I don't know how easy it's gonna be for you to move
24:50
and I don't know your family situation and all that.
24:52
But of all the things that can make somebody wanna move,
24:55
that's pretty high up there.
24:57
All right, so mother reactions,
24:58
there was a steady spread of disinformation that we saw.
25:00
You know, a lot of people are spreading crap
25:02
about ectopic pregnancies.
25:03
It's septic uterus and miscarriages saying
25:05
that these women will be charged criminally
25:07
if those things happen.
25:08
All those things are a lie.
25:10
All those things are completely a lie.
25:11
So let's talk about, you know, miscarriages,
25:13
you know, with the DNC.
25:14
So basically, let's say you miscarried
25:16
and my wife had two miscarriages.
25:17
So I know something about it.
25:19
I know a lot of people that have had miscarriages
25:21
that the baby died inside the woman,
25:23
they had to get a DNC.
25:24
So they basically had to have the baby scraped out
25:26
of the uterus in pieces.
25:28
The baby's already dead from miscarriage, okay?
25:31
None of the laws on the books,
25:33
almost 25 states that have decent, you know,
25:35
bandings of different abortions
25:37
would apply to that situation at all.
25:39
So it's complete, farce, it's complete disinformation.
25:42
Also, no state will have a law on a book on the books
25:45
that will criminalize a woman for trying to get an abortion,
25:48
okay?
25:49
Now I vehemently disagree with this, okay?
25:51
Because the only people that are criminalized
25:53
in any of these laws around the country are the doctors.
25:56
But think about it in any other scenario.
25:59
If I pay some dude off the street to kill my wife, right?
26:03
Whether he does so or not, I go down for that as well.
26:07
If he falls through with that murder and he gets caught,
26:10
he's gonna point at me and be like,
26:11
well, that guy gave me 10 grand to do it, right?
26:13
So he's gonna go down and I'm gonna go down for that, okay?
26:16
But somehow it's different when a woman
26:18
pays an assassin for 500 bucks to do it.
26:21
Also one more thing on the disinformation front,
26:24
there's a fundamental misunderstanding
26:25
about what an abortion is, okay?
26:27
So abortion is the intentional
26:29
and targeted destruction of an innocent human life, okay?
26:32
The intentional and targeted destruction
26:34
of an innocent human life,
26:35
treating a woman for an ectopic pregnancy,
26:38
or tubal pregnancy, like, or any of those other things,
26:41
it's not an abortion at all, not at all.
26:44
Like in all cases, the doctors should work
26:46
to preserve the baby's life and the mother's life.
26:48
And in a lot of cases, like, especially with ectopic,
26:51
I think there's a 0% chance a baby can survive that
26:53
'cause we don't currently have the technology
26:55
to flush the baby out of the fallopian tube
26:57
so it can be implanted in the uterus.
26:59
So again, people are just throwing these things out there
27:01
and they're basically speaking nonsense.
27:03
So a couple more reactions I wanna get into
27:05
is we saw a bunch of opinions rolling in
27:08
from leaders from around the globe.
27:09
So side note, I mean, who gives a crap
27:11
what these people think about our laws?
27:14
Like they don't live here, they can't vote here,
27:16
they shouldn't care what I think about their laws, why?
27:18
Because I don't live there and I can't vote there, okay?
27:20
So I'm gonna talk about a couple of these people.
27:22
The first person is from Emmanuel Macron,
27:24
so he's the president of France.
27:25
He had this to say, after the Dopp's decision came down,
27:27
quote, "Abortion is a fundamental right for all women,
27:29
"it must be protected.
27:30
"I wish to express my solidarity with the women
27:33
"whose liberties are being undermined
27:34
"by the Supreme Court of the United States," unquote.
27:36
So, fun fact, the Dopp's case, which is a case here
27:40
in question, but that the Supreme Court ruled on,
27:42
was looking at the question of whether or not
27:44
the state of Mississippi could ban abortions
27:47
after 15 weeks of pregnancy, okay?
27:50
That was the crux of this entire case.
27:52
The current law on abortion in France
27:55
concerning legal abortions,
27:58
they've criminalized abortions after 14 weeks.
28:00
Whoopsies.
28:04
So here he is complaining about the plight
28:06
of these American women, but apparently he has no idea
28:08
what was even being considered in this decision.
28:11
And then you have the dictator of Canada, Justin Trudeau.
28:13
He said that American women are welcome in his country
28:16
of Canada to protect their rights to bodily autonomy.
28:20
But at the same time, I find that very interesting
28:22
because these women can't enter the country
28:24
unless they're vaccinated.
28:26
So, if it has to do with them killing the baby
28:28
that's inside them, that is not part of their body,
28:30
bodily autonomy counts, but when it comes to, you know,
28:33
basically injecting an experimental drug into your arm,
28:36
that's super-duper counts in terms of, you know,
28:38
that doesn't count, I guess,
28:39
in terms of bodily autonomy.
28:40
So, it's kind of hard to keep all that straight,
28:41
but those are the reactions,
28:43
kind of the immediate reactions that we saw.
28:45
Now, we need to get into the narratives
28:47
that have come out since the opposite decision
28:49
was handed down because everything is about narrative,
28:51
especially when the mainstream media
28:52
has anything to do with it.
28:53
So, the first thing, this is not really,
28:54
necessarily the mainstream media,
28:56
this is mainly coming from Christians.
28:57
It's that Christians really should not be dunking
29:00
on this issue.
29:02
We shouldn't be high-five and we shouldn't be chest-bumping.
29:04
And again, John Cooper goes into great detail on that
29:07
in his episode of Cooper Stuff.
29:08
Again, it's in the show notes,
29:09
but there was a tweet from the gospel coalition
29:11
that came out in the last couple of days and it said this.
29:14
Now isn't the time for the church to beat its chest
29:16
and celebration of a victory in the culture war.
29:19
This is a moment for us to step up in love.
29:22
Again, something called the gospel coalition,
29:25
talking about love, not defining it, just implying it
29:28
because they assume all of us understand,
29:29
but why shouldn't we be excited about this?
29:32
Again, the biggest legislative thing
29:34
since the Emancipation Proclamation
29:36
that was basically pushed by Christians is this.
29:39
But that's the narrative.
29:39
As Christians, really shouldn't be dunking on this.
29:41
We should be focusing on all these other issues,
29:43
but I don't wanna take any of the sting away from John Cooper.
29:45
Make sure you check out his episode.
29:47
Another thing that we're seeing in terms of narratives
29:49
is that women will die.
29:51
Women are gonna die now.
29:52
I hope you're happy.
29:53
Women will die.
29:54
First of all, what is a woman?
29:56
Do you wanna engage with that at all?
30:00
'Cause it's gonna kinda go against a worldview.
30:02
So let's be careful in the words we use.
30:04
And to answer that is, no, they won't.
30:07
Tons more females, right?
30:08
They have the potential to grow into women
30:11
will not be slaughtered now.
30:13
That's a good thing.
30:14
And again, you do not need an abortion
30:17
in order to save your life if you're a woman.
30:19
It's not true.
30:20
It is a complete lie, okay?
30:22
Another narrative does come out.
30:24
There's been an overwhelming focus
30:26
on quote unquote women's rights, okay?
30:29
Now, this is still June after all.
30:32
I thought men could get pregnant too.
30:34
I mean, this seems deeply and oddly bigoted
30:38
to be talking so much about women's rights,
30:40
especially during Pride Month.
30:43
I personally am phlegmics and embarrassed and offended.
30:47
I'm all those things all at once.
30:49
'Cause you hear a bunch of idiots saying,
30:51
you know, it's supposed to be a decision
30:52
between a woman and her doctor.
30:54
Well, yeah, if she's banging her doctor,
30:56
because here's the other thing, again,
30:57
people don't think about this issue
30:59
for longer than 14 seconds at a time.
31:01
Women aren't typically going to their primary care physician
31:04
or their family doctor or their OBGYN
31:06
to get this murder done.
31:08
They're not.
31:09
They have to find this hired gun
31:11
and this hired gun doctor
31:13
who wears a white coat covered in blood
31:15
basically specializes in this depraved act.
31:18
Oh, it's just a decision between a woman and her doctor,
31:21
really?
31:22
And again, I keep hearing about all the rights of the mother.
31:25
But one thing that never comes up in this discussion,
31:27
I don't wanna get too far off, I'll come back.
31:30
But something that's never brought up
31:31
are the rights of the father.
31:33
Essentially, it's because the father has no legal say
31:38
as to whether or not his baby is murdered, right?
31:40
He can't say, no, you can't have this abortion.
31:42
He has no rights to stop the woman from doing that.
31:45
However, that same man can be imprisoned
31:49
if he doesn't financially care for the baby after birth.
31:53
At the very least he's gonna have his wages garnished.
31:56
But we don't wanna ever get to talk about that, right?
31:59
Because that's somehow beyond the pale.
32:01
But again, it takes two to tango in these scenarios,
32:04
but dad doesn't get a say.
32:05
That seems pretty apt up.
32:06
Also, some people are trying to dunk on this whole thing
32:10
by saying, oh yeah, well, if you're going to force women
32:13
to be pregnant, you should probably force men
32:16
that impregnate them to start paying child support immediately.
32:19
And they think they're dunking.
32:20
And I'm like, yeah, I mean, I'm super cool with that.
32:25
Let's have these men start taking care of these women
32:27
as soon as they impregnate them.
32:29
I'm all for it.
32:30
But also, we already have a process
32:32
by which this happens naturally.
32:35
It's called marriage.
32:37
I know it's kind of old fashioned to me
32:39
to even mention that word.
32:41
But if you weren't just screwing everything that walked
32:43
and risking getting pregnant
32:45
just because you love your sexual freedom or something, right?
32:48
If you do this within the confines of a marriage,
32:51
as you can imagine, the rates of abortion inside married houses
32:56
between married couples is incredibly, incredibly low
32:59
compared to just the general populace, okay?
33:02
But then we also saw this narrative shift.
33:04
There's an overwhelming focus on reproductive rights
33:08
or reproductive freedom.
33:10
But again, this shows that these people
33:11
don't think much on this issue.
33:13
And they also don't understand what reproduction means.
33:16
Because if you don't,
33:16
if you understand what reproduction means,
33:18
you know when it happens.
33:19
So the moment the sperm cell meets the egg cell
33:22
and creates a one celled zygote that has all of the DNA
33:25
and all the genetic code of that person
33:28
that will basically map out the rest of their life.
33:31
Tell us how tall they're gonna be,
33:32
what eye color they're gonna have,
33:33
you know what color hair they're gonna have
33:34
and how coarse it is and how thick it is.
33:36
It's all there in that exact one moment.
33:38
At that moment, reproduction has occurred.
33:41
So as the baby's growing in your stomach,
33:45
you don't get to decide whether or not to reproduce,
33:47
you've already done so.
33:49
So this focus on reproductive rights is nonsense, okay?
33:52
Also, a narrative being pushed
33:54
is that the Supreme Court of the United States is radical
33:56
or it's activist or it's extremist now, okay?
34:00
So the justices are being called extremists
34:04
for returning the rights of the people back to the people.
34:09
That's an extremist activist position, okay?
34:14
'Cause essentially they took something
34:15
out of the judge's hands and out of the federal government's
34:17
hands and they put it in the hands of each individual voter
34:20
in each individual state.
34:22
And this is supposed to be a bad thing?
34:25
We're supposed to look at this and be like,
34:26
oh, this is terrible.
34:27
Let's keep it in the federal government's hands.
34:30
Really?
34:30
And it is interesting that all these liberal people
34:34
that are calling for the expansion of the Supreme Court
34:36
because you would think they would want this
34:38
to be a neutral thing, right?
34:40
This is a radical conservative Supreme Court, right?
34:42
But the interesting thing is that they're doing this
34:46
because of the supposed extreme conservative majority,
34:49
but none of them want a neutral court.
34:50
They want an extreme liberal majority on the court.
34:53
Again, this is why worldview matters
34:56
because they will call you radical activists and extremists
34:59
if they don't agree with you,
35:00
but they're not gonna call themselves that.
35:02
So if they get rid of the filibuster
35:04
and add, you know, seven more people to the Supreme Court
35:06
or something like that,
35:07
like they're not gonna call that radical
35:09
or activist or extremist,
35:10
especially if those justices vote the way that they like.
35:13
So another narrative shift we've seen
35:15
is the Supreme Court of the United States,
35:16
you know, removed a fundamental constitutional right
35:20
from women in our country.
35:21
You know, our women are the only, you know,
35:23
our daughters are now waking up
35:24
and having less rights than their grandparents did
35:26
or something like that.
35:28
Well, if you're one of those people,
35:29
I would just say, oh, yeah?
35:31
Well, show me in the constitution the right to abortion
35:35
and I will change my mind.
35:36
Go ahead.
35:38
Show me.
35:40
'Cause you're saying we removed a fundamental
35:43
constitutional right.
35:44
I believe Joe Biden said that verbatim,
35:46
fundamental constitutional right.
35:48
Show me in the constitution where it says that.
35:51
And don't do any mental gymnastics, just show me.
35:54
The thing is, is that you can't.
35:56
Another narrative shift is they're coming
35:57
for gay marriage and interracial marriage
35:59
and contraception next, right?
36:02
And so this has to do with Justice Clarice Thomas,
36:04
which again, you should read his opinion in there.
36:06
It's amazing.
36:07
And his remarks in the concurring opinion
36:09
where he's talking about the substantive due process clause.
36:12
And again, I'm not going to go into a deep dive
36:13
of the substantive due process clause
36:15
and how that ties into the 14th amendment,
36:17
but he explicitly says in the decision,
36:19
and Alito did as well,
36:21
that this decision does not set up a challenge
36:24
to a Bergfeld, which is gay marriage
36:26
or interracial marriage, or married people
36:28
having contraception or any of those things.
36:30
Again, they're lying to you about that, okay?
36:33
And people are buying it, lying in the sinker, okay?
36:36
The next thing, the shifting focus
36:38
to make abortion unthinkable, okay?
36:42
Now, pro-abortion folks and, you know,
36:46
supposed, supposed pro-life folks are using unthinkable.
36:49
Now, let's make abortion unthinkable, okay?
36:52
So what they're talking about is they're talking
36:54
about the plight of the woman after she has
36:56
the baby, okay?
36:58
Because most of these women wouldn't kill their babies
37:00
if everything was taking care of them.
37:02
That's kind of what they would say.
37:04
But they're using this phraseology,
37:05
this making abortion unthinkable as a Trojan horse
37:08
to push universal healthcare and universal pre-K
37:11
and paid maternity leave and climate change laws
37:14
and living wage increases and all kinds of other things, right?
37:18
And so this kind of builds into the people
37:20
not being sufficiently pro-life, for some reason,
37:23
because they don't support all these other policy prescriptions
37:26
that don't have anything to do
37:27
with the woman deciding to kill her child
37:29
or her and the man that did it deciding to kill her child
37:32
or her and her parents that don't want to be embarrassed
37:34
at the next cookout to kill her child, right?
37:37
And that's kind of gets into the next thing
37:39
is, you know, you're not actually pro-life
37:41
unless you believe the exact things that I believe, right?
37:44
So what they mean is they want you to support
37:46
all their policy prescriptions
37:48
and they get to determine whether you're pro-life enough, okay?
37:52
And, you know, what they mean is you have to be pro
37:54
all the things I just listed, but also things
37:56
like anti-death penalty, right?
37:58
So I just did a debate, I sent it out to all you guys
38:00
with Shane Claymore and this guy is a professional,
38:02
Christian, anti-gun, anti-violence, pacifist, activist, right?
38:07
That's what this guy does for a living.
38:08
He literally goes on to around the country
38:10
convincing people to turn law-abiding citizens,
38:12
to turn in their firearms to him
38:13
so that they can destroy them, right there in front of them, right?
38:17
And he was talking about this and he brought this up
38:18
on the show, you know, how you're not sufficiently pro-life
38:21
if you're also pro-death penalty.
38:23
And he completely ignored the fact of these two groups
38:26
being very, very different because in this country,
38:30
the only people that we put to death
38:32
are people that murder other people.
38:33
And usually there's a compounding factor like, you know,
38:36
there was a kidnapping and then a murder
38:38
or a kidnapping and then a rape and then a murder
38:39
or there was multiple people that were murdered
38:41
or it was under, you know,
38:42
especially egregious circumstances or something like that.
38:44
Those are the types of people we kill.
38:46
And so you were categorically comparing those types
38:49
of low lives with innocent human beings in the womb.
38:53
That can't do any of those things.
38:54
Literally the most defenseless human on the planet
38:58
is one that resides in the womb of their mother.
39:00
But I'm not sufficiently pro-life
39:02
because I think that we should take those people
39:04
out of the gene pool.
39:05
Sorry, I don't buy it.
39:07
So another narrative shift that we've seen is woke
39:10
and kind of lefty Christians again.
39:12
I'm going to let John Cooper do a lot of talking for me
39:14
on this issue.
39:15
But these Christians were desperately trying to make friends
39:20
out of people that hate them.
39:22
So you have a lot of pro-abortion Christians out there
39:25
kind of posting things or even, you know,
39:26
supposedly pro-life Christians saying,
39:28
yeah, we shouldn't really dunk on this issue.
39:29
And there's a lot of nuance and there's a lot of this
39:31
or that that we have to worry about.
39:33
But it's all mainly nonsense.
39:35
And here's one thing I'll kind of give you like a shortcut.
39:38
If anyone starts their speech or their post on social media
39:41
with as approach was Christian dot, dot, dot,
39:45
just know that you do not have to continue listening
39:48
to them or reading what they're about to say.
39:51
That person does not have a grasp of biblical reality
39:54
or just reality in general.
39:56
You don't have to pay attention to that person.
39:58
But these people are so desperately trying to signal
40:01
to all these, you know, secular leftists in the community
40:04
of about how, you know, basically tolerant they are
40:08
in this particular subject matter.
40:09
It's gross, actually.
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- And then another shift, which is really interesting.
40:41
We'll see how this goes as we move into the future.
40:44
But Ruth Bader Ginsburg, RBG, the notorious RBG.
40:48
She's apparently not the hero that she's been portrayed as.
40:51
Because people are just now realizing
40:53
how narcissistic she was.
40:55
Because she could retire during any of the eight years
40:58
of the Obama administration when she knew she was getting
41:00
towards the end of her life, but she wanted to stick around.
41:02
She wanted to stick around so that she could retire
41:05
under a female president, the first female president
41:08
being Hillary Clinton.
41:09
And whoopsies, Donald Trump blew up that plan.
41:11
And then as opposed to just retiring at that moment,
41:14
she tried to hang on and hang on, and then she passed away.
41:16
And again, I don't think it's appropriate to be excited
41:19
about the death of someone like that
41:20
that I just disagree with in terms of her jurisprudence
41:24
or her opinions on these issues.
41:25
But now we have people in the left coming out
41:28
saying Ruth Bader Ginsburg was selfish.
41:30
And that she's the reason why this happened
41:32
because RBG was traded for ACB.
41:35
That's an interesting shift.
41:38
And the last narrative shift I'll talk about before we move on
41:40
is we all of a sudden need to focus on maternal health.
41:45
We're hearing a lot of people throwing out maternal health.
41:47
And so here's the thing.
41:49
I mean, I fundamentally agree.
41:51
I fundamentally agree that we should focus on maternal health.
41:55
So does the entire history of medicine in this country
41:58
because for almost the entirety of human history,
42:01
the largest risk to the life of the mother
42:03
was pregnancy and the birthing process
42:06
for all of human history.
42:07
But medical advancements have gotten us to the point
42:11
where that's essentially no longer a factor for women.
42:14
We have so much available to us,
42:16
even in poor communities,
42:18
to save the life of the woman and the child.
42:20
This idea that women are just dropping like flies
42:22
all over the country is just, it's a nonsense, right?
42:25
So just to kind of give you the last year
42:27
that we have maternal death statistics,
42:29
typically over the last five years or so,
42:31
it's somewhere between 650 and 850 women a year die
42:34
because of something that has to do with a complication
42:37
with pregnancy or birthing.
42:38
And that's terrible, right?
42:40
650 to 850 women that really, really stinks.
42:43
You hate that for them and their families.
42:46
But when you compare that to the somewhere
42:48
between 800,000 and 1 million children
42:51
killed per year via abortion,
42:53
so you want me to focus on maternal health
42:56
and not celebrate the potentially hundreds of thousands
43:00
of babies that are gonna be saved every year?
43:02
Sorry, I'm not buying it.
43:04
But now we need to shift our focus to the narratives
43:07
that should have come out since the Dobbs' decision
43:10
was handed down.
43:11
We just went through all the ones that have come out,
43:13
but here are the ones that I haven't heard
43:14
that we should be hearing,
43:15
and hopefully we hear at some point.
43:17
The first one, I'm especially passionate about this one,
43:19
is yes, I'm pro-life, and it's because I'm a Christian,
43:23
and if you don't like it, pound sand.
43:25
I'm so tired of these pussy Christians going out there
43:29
and being like, oh yeah, I'm a Christian,
43:30
but it's mainly 'cause of science,
43:33
and I don't really wanna be too judgmental,
43:35
and Jesus was like the Lamb of God and stuff,
43:37
and he's this really cool guy,
43:38
and if you wanna meet him, I can maybe introduce you.
43:41
And I'm just trying to love, that's what I'm just loving.
43:44
People are like, nope, I am pro-life, why are you pro-life?
43:48
I can give you a bunch of scientific reasons,
43:50
but I am mainly pro-life because I'm a Christian,
43:53
because I believe in the Imago Day,
43:55
and I believe each person has a right to life
43:58
when they're in the womb.
44:00
That is not a potential person,
44:01
that is a person with potential, as Ben Shapiro says, okay?
44:04
So that's a narrative that needs to get out there.
44:06
Another narrative that should be coming out
44:09
is you're damn right, we will adopt your baby,
44:11
because you hear these people saying,
44:13
so are you saying more babies are going to be adopted now?
44:16
Well, yeah, absolutely.
44:20
There are people standing outside of abortion clinics.
44:22
Right now, as I record this with signs that say,
44:24
we will adopt your baby, please do not kill them, right?
44:29
And here's the thing,
44:30
the reason why there aren't more adoptions,
44:31
'cause everyone likes to pay, oh, adoption's terrible,
44:33
and there are a lot of broken things inside the adoption thing.
44:36
I've had a lot of friends that have kind of gone
44:37
through that process.
44:38
There are a lot of broken things about that process.
44:40
But the reason why there aren't more people
44:42
that are adopted every year in the country
44:43
is because most of these babies are being killed
44:46
and not put up for adoption.
44:48
Most of these women are so selfish
44:50
that they would rather kill the baby
44:51
than to even fathom the thought of taking the baby
44:54
and putting it in the hands of another family, okay?
44:58
So yes, we're gonna see a tremendous uptick in adoptions.
45:02
Another narrative shift that we should see
45:03
is as a church, we haven't been doing all that we can
45:07
on that issue, on the issue of life, but that ends now.
45:11
Because something that got exposed over the weekend
45:15
is the sheer number of churches
45:17
that have never spent any time or money or effort
45:20
on this cause, okay?
45:21
Now, I mentioned my church here in Edmond, Oklahoma.
45:24
The thing about my church is even the pastor,
45:28
when he was talking about this issue,
45:29
he's like, you know, we're in the process
45:30
trying to figure out what we can do to come around
45:32
and support these pregnancy resource centers
45:34
and blah, blah, and all that's great.
45:36
So what it exposed is that the church,
45:38
Faith Bible Church in Edmond, Oklahoma
45:40
has not really been doing anything in this issue,
45:42
with this issue at all.
45:43
And I remember years ago,
45:44
I went to a church here in Oklahoma City called Frontline
45:46
and one of the first things I went
45:48
whenever we became members over there is I was like,
45:50
hey, you know, we wanna make sure
45:51
that we're doing stuff for the pro-life cause,
45:53
we wanna make sure we're doing stuff, you know,
45:54
to prevent abortions and to help these women blah, blah, blah,
45:57
what are you guys doing to do that?
45:58
And they just kind of looked at me and they're like,
46:00
I guess we don't really do anything with that.
46:03
And they're in a community where the abortion rate
46:05
is decently high when compared to the rest of the state, right?
46:08
So that got exposed this weekend.
46:10
So I hope a lot of churches now are like,
46:12
oh, crap, you know, we just basically have been, you know,
46:15
operating as if Roe v. Wade was ever gonna be overturned.
46:17
We don't really think about this issue.
46:18
We're just trying to keep the doors open
46:20
or keep the thing growing or whatever the situation is.
46:22
But that ends now, 'cause now the, you know,
46:26
you gotta put your money where your mouth is.
46:28
And we'll get more into that in the last section of the show
46:29
where we talk about what we should be doing now.
46:31
But another narrative that we should be seeing is that,
46:33
and again, I keep talking about this,
46:36
Donald J. Trump is the most pro-life
46:38
and now one of the greatest presidents
46:40
in the history of the United States.
46:42
All things considered, January 6th, the impeachment,
46:46
the, grab the girls by the, you know what,
46:47
like all that stuff, right?
46:49
And I will keep saying it.
46:50
And I'm saying it as a guy that hopes he doesn't run
46:52
for president in 2024.
46:54
Like the only thing that can save the Democrats right now
46:57
is Donald Trump running again.
46:58
That's, that's it.
47:00
They are screwed in 2022 and 2024
47:03
and less Donald Trump runs, okay?
47:05
And we'll get more into that once he announces
47:07
and we go through all that stuff.
47:08
But part of me thinks that some people are actually poo-pooing,
47:12
you know, on this ruling, especially the Christians
47:14
that are poo-pooing on this,
47:15
because if they didn't poo-poo on it,
47:17
they might have to actually acknowledge that Trump,
47:20
this guy that they hate, right,
47:21
is one of the main reasons why this guy done.
47:24
Because he is.
47:26
Because say what you want about him,
47:27
you can say, oh, well, he doesn't believe this in his heart.
47:29
Well, guess what?
47:30
He could be pro-abortion in his heart,
47:32
but he got three justices on the Supreme Court
47:35
that all voted to overturn Roe v. Wade.
47:37
So I honestly don't care what he believes in his heart
47:40
when it comes to what he legislates like.
47:42
But here you also have to look at,
47:43
and again, these are just comments,
47:44
comments from a politician.
47:45
So I don't really put a whole lot of weight in them.
47:47
But Trump was asked to comment about this right afterwards.
47:50
So he did a prepared statement,
47:51
but then he also did something with Fox.
47:53
So I'll read something from both of those.
47:55
So this is from his prepared statement, quote,
47:58
"Today's decision, which is the biggest win for life
48:00
and a generation along with other decisions
48:03
that have been announced recently were only made possible
48:05
because I delivered everything as promised."
48:07
He still can't avoid being a narcissist,
48:09
but we'll keep going,
48:10
"including nominating and getting three highly respected
48:12
and strong constitutionalists confirmed
48:14
to the United States Supreme Court," unquote.
48:16
And then he was also asked by Fox News
48:18
whether he feels that he played a role in the reversal.
48:20
And this was literally his response.
48:22
God made the decision.
48:24
That was his response to a question.
48:26
So that wasn't a prepared statement.
48:27
God made the decision.
48:28
And later on, he added this,
48:29
I'll quote him directly, quote,
48:31
"I think in the end, this is something
48:32
that will work out for everybody.
48:34
This brings everything back to the States,
48:36
which is where it has always belonged."
48:39
And so again, that's all Trump.
48:42
Like that should be the narrative.
48:44
From conservatives and just historians
48:46
is that he is the most pro-life president of all time.
48:49
And this is his main accomplishment as a president, okay?
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- Also an narrative that we should see
49:24
is that Donald Trump did what almost
49:25
all the other recent Republican presidents have failed to do.
49:29
And that is put brave, pro-life,
49:31
pro-constitution originalists on the Supreme Court, okay?
49:35
So Republicans need to wake up and remember their history.
49:39
They really do.
49:40
They really need to do an accounting
49:41
of the things that they're seeing.
49:42
So Mark Tissen wrote an amazing opinion piece
49:45
that ended up in the Washington Post of all places.
49:48
Albert Mueller actually talked about this
49:49
on Monday, I believe, on his show.
49:51
And there's a great quote from Tissen's article
49:53
that Albert Mueller wrote, or that he read on air,
49:56
but I'm gonna read a little bit more of the quote here.
49:58
So it's a somewhat lengthy quote,
49:59
but I think it's very, very important to kind of explain
50:02
where Republicans have messed up in the past on this.
50:04
So let me read, again, this is from,
50:05
and I'll make sure this is in the show notes
50:06
from Mark Tissen, opinion piece in the Washington Post.
50:10
"Every Republican president before Trump failed miserably
50:13
when it came to Supreme Court picks.
50:15
In 1970, Richard M. Nixon nominated Harry A. Blackman,
50:18
who would go on to be the ignominious author of Roe.
50:21
Gerald Ford picked only one justice,
50:23
John Paul Stevens, who became the leader
50:25
of the court's liberal bloc.
50:27
Ronald Reagan had three appointees,
50:29
Sandra Day O'Connor, Antonin Scalia, and Anthony M. Kennedy.
50:32
But only Scalia was a consistent conservative vote
50:34
on the court.
50:35
George H.W. Bush named one brilliant conservative,
50:38
Clarence Thomas, and one catastrophic liberal, David Souter.
50:42
Then he up George W. Bush, selected Samuel A. Alito Jr.,
50:45
a marvelous conservative intellect
50:47
who wrote the decision overturning wrote.
50:49
But Bush also gave us John G. Roberts Jr.,
50:51
who promised to be an impartial umpire,
50:53
but instead has repeatedly legislated from the bench,
50:56
siding with the court's liberal bloc on a string of cases,
50:59
including saving Obamacare,
51:00
preserving the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program,
51:03
DACA, and striking down state laws
51:06
that required hospitals to extend admitting privileges
51:08
for doctors who perform abortions.
51:10
But Trump broke the mold.
51:11
His nominations of Neil M. Gorsuch,
51:13
Brett M. Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett
51:16
have made him the only Republican president
51:18
in six decades to have a perfect record
51:20
in appointing judicial conservatives.
51:23
His picks have transformed the court.
51:26
With Gorsuch, he saved its conservative majority.
51:28
With Kavanaugh, he moved the court to the right
51:30
by replacing a swing vote, Kennedy,
51:32
with a reliable conservative,
51:33
and with Barrett, he gave the conservative bloc
51:35
the five votes they need to reveal
51:37
without the facilitating or vacillating chief justice.
51:41
So that is a great breakdown.
51:42
I absolutely love how he talked through that
51:45
and went through that.
51:46
Now when you talk about another thing
51:47
that should be happening,
51:49
another thing that should have happened,
51:50
is it's the pro-abortion position
51:52
that hates women, okay?
51:55
That's what we need to be talking about.
51:57
The pro-abortion people are the people that hate women,
52:00
not the people that are pro-life, okay?
52:02
So aside from the fact that sex-selective abortions
52:05
take place all over the country and all over the globe, okay?
52:09
So let's put that aside.
52:11
And aside from the fact that millions of unborn females
52:14
are killed every year via abortion across the globe,
52:18
the pro-abortion perspective tells women
52:21
that they cannot achieve,
52:23
that they cannot overcome,
52:26
that they cannot be resilient.
52:29
That's what the pro-abortion perspective is.
52:32
They tell these women that the only way
52:34
that they can make their wildest dreams come true
52:36
is if they kill the baby that's inside them.
52:40
Whereas pro-lifers tell the woman,
52:42
you can overcome, you can achieve,
52:45
and you can be resilient, and also we will help you.
52:50
So I am absolutely tired,
52:52
especially of conservatives and Republicans and Christians
52:54
just playing into this nonsense
52:56
or at least not pushing back against this.
52:57
No, if you wanna say that you are pro-woman,
53:00
you have to be pro-life.
53:02
Because again, approximately 50%
53:04
of the people killed in abortions are women.
53:08
And again, especially in other countries,
53:09
sex-selective abortions are rampant.
53:12
In China, in India, in Pakistan,
53:14
like they're rampant because they don't value women
53:17
in those cultures, okay?
53:19
So enough of this, it's a pro-abortion people
53:21
that love women, screw that, like that's nonsense.
53:23
And the last thing in terms of things
53:25
that we should be shifting is let's not lose,
53:28
and this is kind of a minor thing,
53:29
but kind of not at the same time.
53:31
Let's not lose sight of figuring out
53:33
who leaked the draft opinion.
53:34
'Cause that's one thing that I haven't heard it all
53:37
in the last week, even from conservatives is,
53:39
do we know who leaked the opinion yet?
53:41
Are we just gonna forget that?
53:43
Are we just gonna forget that it had to have been somebody
53:46
from one of the offices of either Sotomayor,
53:48
a Kagan or a Breyer?
53:50
Are we just gonna, we're just not gonna talk about that now?
53:53
In our excitement and in the ticker tape parades
53:55
and in all the confetti,
53:57
we're just not gonna talk about that anymore?
53:58
No, we still need to keep our eye on the ball
54:00
and we need to focus on that, definitely.
54:03
Now, here I wanna talk just very briefly
54:05
about what we can expect to see
54:06
and what we need to watch for, okay?
54:08
So what we can expect to see and we need to watch for,
54:10
our blue states are going to enact
54:12
the most liberal and deadly abortion laws
54:14
in the entire world, not just in the entire country,
54:16
but in the entire world.
54:18
But they will go further than that,
54:20
they will demand that you celebrate it, okay?
54:22
So we're gonna have states like, you know,
54:24
like New York and California and Hawaii and Illinois
54:28
and all that, they're going to get it to where
54:30
all the abortions in the state are gonna be acceptable
54:34
up until the birthday to the child
54:37
for any reason whatsoever and taxpayer funded.
54:40
And if you come from another state,
54:41
we will fund that as well, okay?
54:45
Which would make those the most extreme laws
54:47
on the books in the entire world, okay?
54:50
That they'll be right up there with Canada,
54:52
which will allow basically an abortion
54:53
for any reason whatsoever.
54:55
But it's those next steps where blue states
54:57
are maybe gonna start signaling the perinatal period,
55:00
which can extend up to 28 days after the child
55:02
is out of the womb, has passed through the magical,
55:05
you know, vaginal canal and is now in the world.
55:08
So that's something that we really, really need
55:10
to be paying attention to because it's gonna get really,
55:12
really bad in those states.
55:13
Also, something that we can kind of watch for
55:16
is whether or not the red state governors
55:18
will honor all the trigger laws that are now enforced
55:21
because there are some governors that are like,
55:22
yeah, I know that that's on the books,
55:23
but we're not gonna enforce that.
55:24
And we've heard that the Pentagon's not gonna, you know,
55:27
look for enforcement on these different things.
55:28
So we need to kind of watch these red state governors
55:30
very, very closely and the attorney generals
55:32
in those states as well.
55:33
And another thing that we can expect to see
55:34
is increase violence towards pro-lifers and churches, okay?
55:38
So I put this message out on our Instagram
55:40
over the weekend, we have to keep our heads on a swivel
55:43
because we, our families, our businesses,
55:45
our churches are now targets for pro-abortion,
55:48
extremist, Marxist violence.
55:49
Like that's exactly the case.
55:51
So if you're a concealed carry person,
55:53
make sure you concealed carry in your church.
55:55
Make sure you're keeping your eyes peeled,
55:56
especially if you go to a large church
55:58
for people that don't look like they should be there.
56:01
For people that look like they're about to agitate.
56:03
Like because these things are going to happen.
56:05
I hope that they don't.
56:06
Like I would love to be proved wrong,
56:08
but we are gonna see increased violence
56:10
towards pro-lifers and churches.
56:11
It's almost a guarantee at this point.
56:14
Now let me get some random thoughts out there too
56:16
as well before we get into some things
56:17
that we should actually be doing now.
56:19
So one random thought here is a big thing
56:22
that you have to keep in mind
56:24
is what the pro-live side would do
56:26
if they had unchecked power
56:28
and what the pro-abortion side would do
56:29
if they had unchecked power.
56:31
This kind of helps you figure out
56:33
which side is more moral.
56:34
So pro-lifers would make abortion illegal
56:38
from the moment of conception, okay?
56:40
And criminalize the entire process.
56:43
And pro-abortion people would make everything up
56:45
to infanticide legal for any reason
56:47
at any point in the pregnancy
56:48
and taxpayer or business funded.
56:50
That's the two sides of this issue.
56:53
'Cause there is no real middle ground in this issue.
56:56
Like, oh yeah, it's kind of okay to kill these babies,
56:58
but not these babies.
56:59
That's not a real position.
57:00
If you spend any time really thinking through this,
57:01
you only end up in one of two places.
57:03
That abortion is a net positive for humanity.
57:05
So we should do everything we can
57:07
to have as many of them as possible, right?
57:09
Or this is horrific.
57:10
We need to criminalize the entire process
57:12
and prevent as many as we can through the legal system
57:16
and through the enforcement system, okay?
57:18
So that, again, tells you who's on the moral side
57:20
of this issue.
57:21
Another random thought is one thing that I find interesting
57:24
is when a Democrat is directly asked
57:27
if they support abortion up to the date of birth.
57:30
Because that is the stated belief
57:33
of the Democratic National Committee
57:34
or National Convention or whatever.
57:35
That is their stated belief.
57:37
Abortion up to the moment of birth, no exceptions, okay?
57:41
But when a prominent Democrat is asked that,
57:43
they usually go into a plethora of platitudes
57:46
or bumper sticker slogans about choice and decision
57:50
between her and her doctor and blah, blah, blah.
57:53
They can't just say yes.
57:55
Yes, I support abortion up to the date of birth.
57:58
Yes, I support a mom and the dad driving to the hospital
58:02
to deliver, but then veering off to a different road
58:05
to actually have them kill the baby as opposed to deliver it.
58:08
Because that's their answer, but they won't just say that, okay?
58:12
Because if they answered yes, that would be the truth.
58:14
They have to obfuscate though.
58:16
Because I think inherently they realize
58:17
how unbelievably evil and ridiculous
58:20
and crazy their position is.
58:23
Another random thought here is,
58:24
you have so many pro-abortion people right now
58:27
talking about how this law is gonna be killing women.
58:29
I talked about this a little bit earlier,
58:31
but they're ignoring the fact that there are tons of females
58:33
that are going to be saved by this ruling.
58:36
So these people, when they say that,
58:38
they're either ignorant or they're purposefully misleading you.
58:41
So to repeat something that I've said a bunch of times,
58:43
you know, a bunch of times on this podcast
58:45
is abortion is never medically necessary
58:47
to save the life of the mother, ever.
58:49
We have to remember that.
58:50
We have to keep beating that home.
58:52
Another random thought is, isn't it so interesting
58:55
that you're seeing people online complain about how
58:57
this is just going to negatively affect hookup culture?
59:01
This has been one of the most interesting things I've seen
59:03
is they're lamenting the fact that this is going to affect
59:06
how I like to hook up with people.
59:08
I normally like to just grab my phone and swipe, swipe, swipe.
59:10
Yeah, you look like I could put some seed in you.
59:12
You know, yeah, let's kind of hook up,
59:14
not even learn each other's names,
59:15
have sex and just kind of move on with our lives.
59:18
So this just goes to further prove that a lot of the people,
59:23
you know, a lot of the men and women,
59:24
they were using abortion as an extra layer of contraception,
59:28
which we've been reliably informed never happens, right?
59:32
But again, they're lamenting that.
59:34
These Gen Zers, there was an article over the weekend,
59:36
actually several articles about Gen Zers
59:39
changing their sexual habits because of this ruling.
59:42
And they're describing it as this horrible thing.
59:45
And I'm like, this is a great thing.
59:47
This is an amazing thing.
59:49
You're adjusting your personal decision-making
59:52
based on the potential ramifications of this law.
59:55
It's making you think about whether or not
59:57
just randomly hooking up with people that you met that night
59:59
is a good thing.
1:00:01
It's almost as if there was a purpose
1:00:04
behind how we were supposed to have sex.
1:00:06
That a baby being conceived from a sexual act
1:00:09
is a positive thing.
1:00:11
And we should look at it that way.
1:00:13
I actually love what Stephen Crowder says all the time.
1:00:15
He's mentioned this on the show a whole bunch.
1:00:17
And I shared it again on Instagram.
1:00:18
Women have four options for their sex lives.
1:00:20
They don't have one,
1:00:22
four pregnancy or whatever these idiots are saying.
1:00:24
They have four options for their sex life.
1:00:26
Abstinence, contraception, motherhood, adoption.
1:00:30
There is no fifth option.
1:00:33
Abortion is not a realistic option.
1:00:35
So again, abstinence, contraception, motherhood, adoption.
1:00:39
Okay?
1:00:40
And to all these people that are like,
1:00:41
oh, these poor women and they're not using it
1:00:43
as birth control, about 45% of abortions,
1:00:45
almost half of the abortions in America are repeat abortions.
1:00:49
People that knew what they were doing the first time
1:00:51
and they're just doing it again.
1:00:52
So again, I am glad that more people
1:00:54
are not looking at abortion as if it's another layer.
1:00:58
So it's like, okay, we got the condom,
1:00:59
we got the diaphragm, we got the spermicidal lube,
1:01:01
and then we've got abortion.
1:01:02
No, they are splitting those things up entirely.
1:01:05
And I think that's great.
1:01:06
Another random thought here is that elections
1:01:10
so clearly have consequences.
1:01:12
And not just on a national level,
1:01:15
but especially on a state level,
1:01:16
'cause look where we're at now.
1:01:17
We're gonna full dose of that now.
1:01:19
This just shows you how important it is to focus
1:01:22
on local politics as opposed to federal politics.
1:01:24
Now, federal politics are obviously important,
1:01:27
especially when you're electing your House of Representatives,
1:01:30
members that are gonna go to the U.S. Congress,
1:01:31
when you're getting your senators,
1:01:33
when you're voting for president,
1:01:34
all those things are very, very important.
1:01:35
But it's your state legislatures
1:01:37
that are right now making the abortion laws, okay?
1:01:40
And also, we have to remember that elections count
1:01:43
in the future because it is not crazy to think
1:01:46
that as soon as liberals get a majority on the Supreme Court,
1:01:49
which will definitely happen again at some point in our future,
1:01:52
that there is gonna be a case brought up
1:01:54
that they will try to reinstate the federal allowance
1:01:56
for the procedure of abortion into usurp state laws.
1:02:00
Kind of like what Roe v. Wade did immediately.
1:02:03
And so when you're voting for president,
1:02:05
when you're voting for your senator
1:02:07
that you're gonna send to the United States Congress,
1:02:09
you have to keep this in mind.
1:02:11
All of those things matter.
1:02:13
And the last random thought I'll get into here
1:02:15
is it is very, very interesting to me.
1:02:17
Watching people have to deal
1:02:19
with kind of the mental gymnastics
1:02:22
of a woman named Amy Coney Barrett
1:02:24
being a part of the decision to overturn Roe.
1:02:27
Because in one way,
1:02:28
it cuts against their argument and their narrative
1:02:30
that it's just a bunch of men that are deciding this, right?
1:02:32
Because one of them was a woman that helped decide this.
1:02:36
So what they're doing is just dismissing Amy Coney Barrett
1:02:39
as a handmaiden, right?
1:02:41
Oh, she's just a handmaiden, right?
1:02:43
But what they're also ignoring
1:02:45
is that there are three female justices
1:02:47
on the Supreme Court right now.
1:02:49
And only one of them has children.
1:02:51
Don't take a guess who it is, it's ACB.
1:02:55
She has seven children, seven.
1:02:57
Sodomaior and Kagan have zero.
1:03:00
So the mental gymnastics of somehow Amy Coney Barrett,
1:03:06
being this horrible, horrific extremist,
1:03:09
but not Sodomaior and Kagan.
1:03:10
Is it possible that if Sodomaior and Kagan
1:03:14
had had children that they would have thought differently
1:03:16
on this issue?
1:03:17
Perhaps not.
1:03:18
'Cause we saw a bunch of women walking around outside
1:03:20
the Supreme Court that were pregnant
1:03:21
that had written on their stomach, not yet human, right?
1:03:24
Which I would say you're not yet smart if you think that.
1:03:27
But again, we would just kind of see,
1:03:28
but the mental gymnastics are absolutely incredible
1:03:31
at this point.
1:03:32
But we're gonna bring it to a close today
1:03:34
by talking about a very, very important section.
1:03:35
I know here we are an hour in,
1:03:36
but this is very, very important.
1:03:38
It's the work that needs to be done now.
1:03:40
This is very, very important.
1:03:41
It's the next steps.
1:03:42
So you popped bottles, you had a cigar in it.
1:03:45
That's what I did.
1:03:46
Friday night last week, popped open a new bottle of whiskey,
1:03:48
had a cigar, really, really enjoyed it.
1:03:50
But by Saturday morning, hey, it's time to get to work.
1:03:52
So here's a bunch of things we need to consider.
1:03:54
First, supporting pregnancy resource centers
1:03:57
and their affiliate programs with our time and money, okay?
1:04:01
And just as a side note,
1:04:02
governors need to ensure that those facilities are secured,
1:04:05
those facilities and make sure they have private security
1:04:07
so that they can make sure things are all squared away.
1:04:09
But those organizations, they need your time,
1:04:13
they need your money, they need your donations,
1:04:15
they need all of it.
1:04:16
So for all you guys that were dunking in high five
1:04:18
and sending around the memes and doing all the things,
1:04:21
look up, some people call them emergency pregnancy centers,
1:04:24
but they're just pregnancy resource centers, okay?
1:04:27
Look them up in their area more than ever,
1:04:30
they're gonna need your help.
1:04:31
And we need to make sure as a body of Christ,
1:04:33
as churches, as whatever,
1:04:35
that we were doing everything we can to support them, okay?
1:04:37
Another thing we need to do, the body of Christ
1:04:41
must do what we can to flood adoption agencies
1:04:45
and to empty the foster care roles.
1:04:48
I heard of a couple of different communities,
1:04:50
a couple of different churches.
1:04:51
Rather, I can't remember who said this,
1:04:53
but they basically wiped out the foster care system
1:04:56
in their area around their church
1:04:58
because they basically adopted all of the kids
1:05:02
that were in foster care.
1:05:03
All the families that were looking,
1:05:07
they are looking to get rid of their children, right?
1:05:10
To give up their rights to their children.
1:05:12
These churches in these areas basically,
1:05:14
they've absorbed all of that.
1:05:16
So much so that the government municipality in their area
1:05:19
was helping fund these organizations
1:05:21
so that they could keep doing it.
1:05:23
And I know the adoption process is crazy.
1:05:26
I know the foster care system in a lot of ways is broken.
1:05:29
But as the body of Christ,
1:05:30
can you imagine in your community,
1:05:33
if there are no foster kids to go around,
1:05:35
if every time a foster kid comes to the system,
1:05:38
they're placed immediately.
1:05:40
If every time there was somebody that needed to be adopted,
1:05:42
that there was a family there,
1:05:44
that should be a major, major focus.
1:05:46
Also, we need to move our legislative focus
1:05:49
to a fight for the full criminalization of abortion
1:05:52
in all 50 states.
1:05:53
So Roe in case you're overturned
1:05:56
on the national level at Supreme Court,
1:05:58
now we need to work on all the states.
1:05:59
'Cause there are 25 states with these restrictions,
1:06:02
but there's very, very few states
1:06:03
that have full restrictions on abortion.
1:06:05
Again, saving the life of the mother is not a real category,
1:06:08
but even in my home state of Oklahoma,
1:06:09
we supposedly have this strong law,
1:06:11
but it allows abortions for the cases of rape and incest.
1:06:16
The problem with that is obviously a baby
1:06:18
should not get the death penalty for something
1:06:19
that their father did, I say that all the time.
1:06:22
So that's the next legislative focus,
1:06:24
fight for the full criminalization of abortion
1:06:26
in all 50 states.
1:06:27
Also, we need to focus on a federal abortion ban
1:06:30
for all abortions, for all reasons and circumstances.
1:06:34
'Cause that's something that could happen
1:06:35
and this kind of goes into the next thing,
1:06:36
which is maybe adding unborn children
1:06:39
to the 14th Amendment.
1:06:40
Okay, so this was the 14th Amendment,
1:06:42
this was passed by Congress in 1866 and ratified in 1868.
1:06:45
So what it did is it extended both the civil
1:06:48
and legal rights for black citizens
1:06:50
who were formerly enslaved,
1:06:51
it granted them citizenship and basically the text is this,
1:06:55
all persons born are naturalized in the United States, okay?
1:06:59
And it ensured rights to these people in states
1:07:01
where discriminatory laws were on the books, okay?
1:07:05
Now, in order to get an amendment passed,
1:07:08
so I think it's the same process
1:07:09
to get something added to an amendment,
1:07:11
but in order to just get an amendment passed,
1:07:13
basically for a federal abortion ban,
1:07:15
there are two methods of doing that.
1:07:17
So according to Article 5,
1:07:18
it prescribes that amendments may be proposed
1:07:20
either by one, the United States Congress,
1:07:22
which would need two-thirds votes in both the House
1:07:25
and the Senate, or the second way is a constitutional
1:07:27
convention of states when and if it's demanded
1:07:30
in two-thirds of the states
1:07:32
and the legislatures of those states
1:07:34
would have to vote for that.
1:07:35
So those are high bars, two-thirds of the United States
1:07:38
Congress or basically the House and the Senate
1:07:41
or two-thirds of the states, it's gonna take a lot,
1:07:44
but it's super duper worth it.
1:07:46
So either getting a federal abortion ban
1:07:48
with a new amendment to the Constitution
1:07:49
or getting unborn children added to the 14th amendment,
1:07:52
let's focus on that.
1:07:53
Also, criminalizing abortion by mail.
1:07:56
So there are a lot of pills that you can get sent in the mail
1:07:58
like you're ordering from Amazon
1:08:00
and you can kill your babies by doing that.
1:08:01
Now, aside from the fact that a lot of these abortion
1:08:04
by mail pills are very, very dangerous for young women
1:08:08
and it's very, very dangerous to anyone that takes them,
1:08:10
it's obviously incredibly lethal for the baby
1:08:12
'cause there's almost a 100% chance that the baby will die.
1:08:16
And so the shipping around some of these abortion pills
1:08:19
are gonna be meant to kind of usurp some of the law.
1:08:22
So let's say you live in one of those states
1:08:23
that has a full outright ban of abortion,
1:08:26
you're gonna be able to get these pills in the mail.
1:08:29
And so we should make it as difficult, if not impossible,
1:08:33
for this to get in the hands of women, right?
1:08:35
Because we're not gonna be able to stop it
1:08:36
in the states that love abortion, the California's,
1:08:38
the New Jersey's and Illinois's and all those types of things.
1:08:40
But in our states that are going to be banning this,
1:08:43
these red states, we have to make sure
1:08:45
that we can't have our babies killed
1:08:46
by people just basically shipping in stuff in a package
1:08:51
that doesn't have any labeling on it or something like that.
1:08:54
Also, a couple of things left here.
1:08:56
I want us to focus on actually making abortion unthinkable.
1:08:59
Okay, but not in the way that people are using it
1:09:02
as I talked about earlier, okay?
1:09:04
Where people are like, let's make it unthinkable,
1:09:05
let's pass all these lefty policy prescriptions
1:09:08
or something like that.
1:09:09
I want it to be unthinkable
1:09:11
because people accept the truth of the gospel
1:09:14
and it changes their hearts and desires.
1:09:16
Because people don't wanna talk about this issue
1:09:19
as if it's a gospel issue.
1:09:21
And I get arguing about how we should ban abortion
1:09:24
because of science and because what we know about what's going on
1:09:26
in terms of the development of the fetus and all that,
1:09:27
like I get it, I'm down with all that.
1:09:30
But at the end of the day, women would not be scared
1:09:33
and they would not be wanting to kill their baby
1:09:36
and the men in their life would not be encouraging them
1:09:39
or maybe in some cases forcing them
1:09:41
or their families wouldn't be so caught up
1:09:43
in their own narcissism that they would,
1:09:45
you know what, the baby to be killed
1:09:46
so it doesn't reflect on them.
1:09:47
None of those things would happen
1:09:48
if those people had a gospel worldview.
1:09:50
If these people were Christians,
1:09:53
that's how you make abortion unthinkable.
1:09:57
And that's what we really, really need to focus on.
1:10:00
Let's really make it unthinkable.
1:10:02
Let's share Christ with these pregnant women.
1:10:04
Let's share Christ with women before they get pregnant, okay?
1:10:08
That's how you make it unthinkable.
1:10:09
And the last point of the day is you guys,
1:10:11
so I'm talking to you.
1:10:12
So if you've been hanging with me this whole time,
1:10:14
you're in it to win it, right?
1:10:16
You guys must constantly remind yourselves
1:10:18
how to successfully push back against pro-abortion arguments.
1:10:21
You cannot get flat-footed.
1:10:24
So one of the canned speeches that I do,
1:10:27
so if you bring me out to speak to your men's group
1:10:29
or to your church or to your company or whatever,
1:10:31
I talk about how to engage pro-abortion arguments.
1:10:34
It's basically what I did in episode 257 of this podcast.
1:10:37
And that's very, very important
1:10:39
because you're gonna have a lot of people
1:10:40
throwing things out on social media,
1:10:41
which if I, again, as a sidebar,
1:10:43
don't get into social media arguments
1:10:44
with people about this issue.
1:10:45
I know you feel the need to push back,
1:10:47
but no one's changing their mind on social media.
1:10:49
They're just not.
1:10:50
Not in DMs, not on their Facebook wall, none of those things.
1:10:53
Just let those things go by.
1:10:55
If somebody said something,
1:10:56
'cause I've done this since last Friday,
1:10:57
I feel like people have said things
1:10:58
that are factually inaccurate.
1:11:00
So I contact them personally, 'cause I know them personally.
1:11:02
I send them a direct message personally,
1:11:04
and I say, "Hey, I think you're wrong with this issue.
1:11:06
"Can we talk about it?
1:11:07
"Here's my phone number?"
1:11:08
Or, "We already have each other's phone number,
1:11:09
"and I just call them type of a thing."
1:11:11
But you can't even have those discussions with people
1:11:14
if they can basically tear down your entire wall
1:11:17
by saying, "Yeah, you know, but if the woman's raped,
1:11:20
"I guess we can kill that baby."
1:11:21
Right?
1:11:22
We can't do that.
1:11:23
We can't have that.
1:11:24
Because what you guys have to remember
1:11:26
is that we have truth on our side.
1:11:27
You know, God is on the side of life.
1:11:31
God is the creator and author of life, right?
1:11:34
He gave his image to us as image bearers,
1:11:37
and we have to remember that.
1:11:39
We have the truth.
1:11:40
The other side does not.
1:11:42
All right, guys, before we let you go,
1:11:43
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1:11:51
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1:11:52
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1:11:53
I've got the legal breakdown that I talked about
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from Ben Shapiro and the woke lefty Christian breakdown
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from John Cooper.
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I've got a link to my episode 257,
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how to engage pro-abortion arguments.
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And then both books that I talked to you about,
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abortion by R.C. Sproul,
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and what to say when by Sean Carney and Steve Carlin.
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Then I've also got that Mark Tissen opinion
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from the Washington Post.
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It's called "For the Fall of Roe v. Wade."
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Thank you, Donald Trump.
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