SETH GRUBER | The 1916 Project (Ep. 660)

0:00 This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast.

0:24 I'm your host Kyle Thompson, let's get into it.

0:26 All right, guys.

0:27 We've got a special guest on the podcast.

0:29 Today's name is Seth Gruber, so he is an author, speaker, documentary, filmmaker, and above

0:34 all, he is a pro-life advocate.

0:36 So we're talking today about his new project that is out now.

0:38 It is actually a documentary and a book called the 1916 project, not the 1619 project, but

0:44 the 1916 project.

0:46 And also we talk about the white rose resistance, ultimately with an interview like this.

0:51 If you're going to read a book or watch a documentary before you get into a discussion,

0:54 of course, you need to try to set up the documentary or the book in a way where people are not getting

0:58 all the best information, but they're getting enough to make them want to go and consume

1:02 that content.

1:03 It's just like a trailer for a movie.

1:04 You want to get them just excited enough to where they go to the movies, buy popcorn,

1:08 do the whole thing and watch it.

1:10 I want to give you that same experience here, and it actually worked out better than I thought

1:13 it would because you'll notice very early on that Seth has a lot to say.

1:18 He has a whole lot to say on this subject.

1:20 He's very passionate about the pro-life issue as I am, and he's also very detailed in the

1:25 amount of information that he shares, and you could even see in this conversation again,

1:29 for some of you, make sure you're just paying attention because he weaves in and out of

1:32 different narratives, but he's still going in a particular direction.

1:36 And you'll notice that in this interview, and you'll certainly notice it if you watched

1:38 the 1916 project or read the book, which I highly suggest you do so, you can check out

1:43 all the links in the show note to check that out.

1:45 But guys, in this particular interview, he's going to talk about the history of Planned

1:48 Parenthood, the eugenicist Margaret Sanger and the extreme racist Margaret Sanger and

1:54 kind of how she came to prominence and how they're trying to distance themselves from

1:59 her and those types of things and how it's not really working for people that are on

2:02 the progressive left, the pro-abortion progressive left.

2:05 We talk about modern-day pastors that don't want to touch the subject of abortion and

2:09 how that's leading to incredibly negative things.

2:11 We talk about the white rose resistance, but man, I've got to be honest, we weaved in and

2:15 out of a lot of different things, a lot of historical things, a lot of philosophical

2:18 things.

2:19 Guys, if you're pro-life, which I know the overwhelming majority of you are, you've got

2:23 to listen to this interview.

2:24 And if you're not pro-life or a little bit squishy, I think he's going to do some things

2:26 in this particular conversation that is going to convince you to come to the solidly and

2:30 fully pro-life side of things.

2:31 So guys, without further ado, let's get into it.

2:35 Seth Gruber, I would just normally do my normal intro, which would be Seth Gruber, "Welcome

2:39 to a Daunt to Life of Man's Podcast."

2:40 But I've got to say, I feel like you're short-changing me right from the beginning because normally

2:44 when I see that beautiful face of yours, you've got this fancy microphone and this beautiful

2:49 setup and this high-definition camera thing going on, why are you not giving your first

2:54 and best to my audience?

2:55 What's the deal?

2:56 Yeah, man, God's been so faithful, Kyle, and so we're on the road a lot with my film

3:04 and speaking and really launching Christian resistance, white rose resistance chapters

3:11 all around the country.

3:13 And churches are fired up to get involved in the fight for life and for the family like

3:17 I've never seen before.

3:18 And so because of that, I'm just on the road too dang much.

3:21 And so you don't get the studio, you don't get the nice cameras today, but thanks for

3:24 having me on.

3:25 Well, you know what that means, that means we're just going to have to do this again.

3:28 And this next time, you're going to have to give full effort, but we need to rewind just

3:32 a little bit because we'll get into the white rose resistance, we'll get into your new documentary

3:36 and book.

3:37 But let's go back just a little bit and talk about how you got into the fight for the pre-born,

3:41 because it's one thing to be a Christian content creator, it's another thing to be a content

3:46 creator with a specific vertical market that you're trying to hit.

3:49 But it's another thing entirely when the majority of what you're putting out there for the world

3:54 to consume has to do with protecting the pre-born that had to start somewhere, where did it start?

3:59 Yeah, so I've always tempted to answer that question by just saying, you know, who cares

4:08 why I do what I do?

4:09 Why isn't everyone treating abortion like it's the genocide of children?

4:14 And why aren't you as [inaudible] off as me, a young man listening to this?

4:17 But that's not usually the answer people are looking for, so I'll give you the one you

4:20 want, which is I was raised in a pro-life family.

4:24 My mother actually was the executive director of one of those incredible pregnancy resource

4:29 centers in the late 1980s, early 90, 91, that just come alongside moms facing unplanned

4:37 these free support and care and counseling, STD testing, ultrasound, often housing, material

4:44 support, prayers, and many more things.

4:49 Of course, these are the pregnancy centers that, you know, Elizabeth Warren and Kamala

4:52 Harris want to shut down all 2700 or so of them around the country.

4:56 By the way, pregnancy centers outnumber abortion centers, Kyle about two to one or more or

5:01 more.

5:02 Yeah, I think it's like three to one.

5:03 Yeah, which is why they hate them, of course.

5:05 And when Rogan overturned the next morning, Elizabeth Warren said that we have to shut

5:09 down every pregnancy center in the country because you shouldn't be able to torture pregnant

5:12 people like that.

5:14 We used to call pregnant people women, by the way, but so anyways, and so my mom was directing

5:18 one of those centers in her late 20s, early 30s.

5:21 I was born in 1991.

5:24 So I'm about 33.

5:25 I don't know when you're releasing this, I'm probably 33 already, and she was waddling

5:30 around the pregnancy center while pregnant with me in 1991 in Los Angeles County, just

5:35 loving on moms.

5:37 And in fact, she would often babysit the toddlers whose lives she helped save as unborn children.

5:45 We housed a boy a little older than me.

5:49 He stayed with us for a few months at one point.

5:52 He would come a couple different summers, just because the single mom that my mom had

5:56 ministered to in the early 90s needed help, and it's just been part of our legacy.

6:01 And so I was homeschooled though, Kyle through eighth grade, and then went to public high

6:06 school because I wanted to, long story longer, my senior year of high school at Nixon's alma

6:13 mater, Whittier High School in Los Angeles County, I picked the topic of abortion, that's

6:17 my senior project because I was like, I need to like have better answers than I feel like

6:22 I have right now.

6:23 I need to be a little bit more equipped.

6:24 But my public high school said, well, you know what, you can't pick that topic.

6:29 We don't let students pick the topic of abortion for their senior project because, quote, your

6:33 paper is unlikely to change anyone's minds.

6:36 And so I threatened to sue them for viewpoint discrimination as an 18 year old senior in

6:43 high school who knew my rights, and they weren't expecting that.

6:47 And so they backed off and they sat down and I did what I wanted to do.

6:52 I went off to a Christian college in Santa Barbara, Christian quote, quote, quote, quote,

6:57 quote, quote, quote, quote, air quotes, I found that there were pro abortion professors on

7:00 the faculty on the payroll, who supported the slaughter of children that voted for

7:04 Obama both terms.

7:06 And I started the first pro life club there that had ever been there.

7:10 And so I got in trouble.

7:11 I raised Holy Hell and exposed them.

7:14 I held a boarded baby photo signs on campus to show the college what many of their professors

7:20 believed was a blessing of liberty and should ought to be a protected healthcare right.

7:25 That got me into more trouble.

7:27 And now I'm not allowed to speak on my alma mater campus, Kyle, three, three times, three

7:32 times students have tried to bring me in to speak on campus for a club sponsored event

7:36 and the college steps in and shuts it down.

7:39 That just happened in April of this year.

7:41 And then I started speaking in schools and churches all around the country in 2014 when

7:45 I graduated college and fast track got opened a lot of doors in 2020 with bold pastors who

7:51 were defying Gavin Newsome, Lini, we call him Newsome, Lini in California.

7:57 And then I was more in pulpits than I was in schools.

8:01 And God just started to bless my calling and now the white rose resistance, which was launched

8:05 right after the overturning of row is the fastest growing pro life organization in the

8:09 country.

8:10 Yeah, and we'll certainly get more into the white rose resistance.

8:13 But the interesting thing about that is I've had a lot of people since, you know, I have

8:17 a audience that is mainly of men.

8:18 So I talk about men's issues, but this, the secondary issue that I talk about the most

8:22 is about abortion.

8:23 And I've had people ask like, Hey, what's the deal?

8:25 Like, are you a product of abortion, like have, is there abortion in your past?

8:28 All that I'm like, no, I just hate bullies and I hate real injustice, not like made up

8:32 injustice.

8:33 Like somebody asked me where I was from.

8:35 And that's a micro aggression injustice.

8:36 I mean, like real injustice.

8:38 And so it's like, if if someone's going to have one issue, that's a pretty good one issue

8:42 to have, because it's like, we can't do any of the other things to take care of somebody

8:46 in a nanny state if they're already dead, but we'll certainly get there as well.

8:49 But we need to talk about the documentary that you're there doing a screening for tonight.

8:54 And it's this, it's the 1916 project, not the 1619 project, but the 1916 project.

8:59 So you release a book that is coming out a little bit ahead of the documentary.

9:03 So let's just start.

9:04 Where did you get the idea for the 1916 project?

9:08 How did it kind of coalesce into not just a documentary, not just a book of both?

9:13 Yeah.

9:14 So what I'm about to say, Kyle, it's very important for your listeners to understand

9:21 for your show, because we're actually going to strike at the heart of our cultural divide

9:26 right now at the very heart of what the culture war has come to mean in the eyes and minds

9:31 of many Americans.

9:33 Firstly, let me say it's always been about more than just killing babies.

9:39 That's very important for your audience to understand a lot of pro-lifers.

9:44 They think that they should stay in their lane.

9:46 So let's not kill babies.

9:48 Babies are precious.

9:49 Okay.

9:50 Duh.

9:51 Like if you think that like baby should be slaughtered in the name of radical feminism,

9:53 because they're not persons yet, you're already an idiot and you're already very evil person.

9:58 Okay.

9:59 I'm talking about the common sense Americans who are like, yeah, maybe we shouldn't kill

10:01 babies in the room.

10:02 Okay.

10:03 Yeah.

10:04 Duh.

10:05 Like anyone should be able to recognize that that that's wrong abortion is wrong because

10:07 I was once a fetus.

10:08 It's where we all came from.

10:09 This is not complicated, folks.

10:10 Now I can deal with the philosophical arguments.

10:12 If you want, if you want to throw those at me, we'll knock them out of the park.

10:14 It's fine.

10:15 We can go as nuanced as you want.

10:17 But just from a common sense perspective, like cool, yeah, let's not kill babies, but

10:20 you can't just deal with killing babies in a little box and then put it back on the shelf

10:26 and then take out your critical race theory box or your sexual revolution box or your same

10:30 sex marriage box or transgenderism box or your parental rights box or your open borders

10:37 box and then say, let's just talk about these individual issues completely isolated in a

10:44 little box.

10:45 That's not how the culture war works, Kyle.

10:47 That's not how worldviews work.

10:48 That's not how ideologies work.

10:51 You might have noticed it's about the left that when the bleep hits the fan, they walk

10:55 in lockstep and they protect their own and you'll notice like, let me give you one example.

10:59 It's Planned Parenthood is not just the largest abortion provider in the world.

11:05 They're the second largest provider of cross sex hormones and puberty blockers in the

11:10 land of the free, the home of the brave.

11:12 So that's their new vertical.

11:13 Yeah.

11:14 The largest abortion provider is now their fastest growing revenue stream is now trans drugs,

11:19 trans drugs for teens.

11:20 That's one.

11:21 I could give you 10 more examples.

11:22 That's one example of what I mean by there's like an underlying worldview that animates

11:26 the secular progressives, moral revolutionaries, they're very, by the way, they're actually

11:32 regressive, regressive, not progressive, but that's like podcasts for another time.

11:37 And so we have to be in touch with the worldviews that drive this culture.

11:41 If we're to actually be successful in reverse engineering the sexual revolution, rebuilding

11:45 Christian resistance, you can't defeat an enemy you don't understand and you can't destroy

11:50 an enemy.

11:51 You don't know exists.

11:52 And so what am I talking about?

11:53 Well, you guys might remember the 16 16 19 project and I didn't just pick 1916 because

12:01 it's, you know, the numbers are swapped and ha ha ha and it evokes memories of the 16 19

12:05 project.

12:06 I also selected it called because there's actually a relationship between the disciples

12:10 of the 16 19 project that led to the cancer the canceling of the legacy of 1916 and what

12:17 is the legacy of 1916.

12:18 It's when Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood opened the first clinic

12:23 that would turn into the Planned Parenthood as we know it today.

12:26 There's actually a relationship here and it's quite hilarious.

12:28 And so in in let's say late August of 2019, Nicole Hannah Jones published the 16 19 project

12:36 with the New York Times.

12:37 It was a series of essays that sought to link every societal evil allegedly to systemic

12:44 racism allegedly and to the legacy of 16 19 because in 16 19, the first black slaves

12:50 came to American shores.

12:52 And so they said, this is this is everything racist, right?

12:55 It's like the Lego movie, right?

12:56 Everything is racist.

12:58 And so we have to go back to 16 19.

13:00 If you want to understand why what is LeBron James say why when he says when black people

13:05 leave their home, they're being hunted.

13:08 Right.

13:09 LaCray, he's LaCray still has that woke idiot who helped get two pro abortion Marxist senators

13:15 elected in Georgia, by the way, ask me about that later.

13:18 He still has the tweet on Twitter where LaCray says that the alarm has been ringing since

13:25 16 19, but y'all have just been pressing snooze.

13:31 So he's saying that like the legacy of 16 19 is still with us today.

13:35 And that's why we have systemic racism.

13:38 That's why you have to have BLM.

13:41 That's why there's no other explanation for Michael Brown, right?

13:44 Or George Floyd, but racism, and if you, if you, if you suggest possibly another explanation,

13:49 like maybe it wasn't racial hatred or animus, then that's proof of your racism.

13:53 I mean, LaCray has been spouting this stuff for a long time.

13:55 So we see how influential some of these doctrines have been, right?

13:58 Some of these ideologies have been.

14:00 And so you, you, you, you come out of 2019 and the 16 19 project is now being pushed Kyle

14:06 in K through 12 schools around the country.

14:09 Right.

14:10 It's now, it's now a Hulu special.

14:11 If your listeners don't know this, it's, it's a, it's a special on Hulu.

14:14 It's a docu series on Hulu, the 16 19 project, the goal Hannah Jones, a purple haired Marxist

14:19 who was discipled by Herbert Marquesa, Herbert Marquesa, I'm sorry, she was discipled by

14:25 Angela Davis who was discipled by Herbert Marquesa.

14:28 So who is Angela Davis?

14:29 She's a communist.

14:31 And by the way, I don't just say that to attackers.

14:33 She identifies as a communist.

14:35 I guess those are her pronouns.

14:37 And she's still alive today, Angela Davis is an anti white racist.

14:42 And she's one of the products or disciples of the Frankfurt school.

14:46 Well, she was discipled by Herbert Marquesa, one of the fathers of the free love movement,

14:53 the free love movement in California and nationwide, along with Wilhelm Reich.

14:58 And Herbert Marquesa was directly out of the Frankfurt school.

15:03 I'm, I'm, I'm setting all this up so you guys and your audience understands that we're

15:06 dealing with cultural Marxism.

15:07 I know I'm taking a while, but just give me a second.

15:10 So what's the Frank, what's the Frankfurt school, Kyle?

15:12 Well, the Frankfurt school was set up in Frankfurt, Germany by German Jews.

15:18 So some of them feared Hitler, because some of them were Jews.

15:20 And but this is where we get cultural Marxism in critical theory, critical race theory, right?

15:28 ZRT.

15:29 That's where that comes from, Kyle, people don't understand that that's all Frankfurt

15:32 school stuff.

15:33 Well, Frankfurt school was set up based off of the writings and letters and work of Antonio

15:38 Gramsci, Antonio Gramsci, who went afoul of Mussolini, actually, and spent the rest of

15:45 his life in prison, Gramsci did.

15:47 But his prison letters provided the basis for a lot of the intellectual soil and founding

15:52 of the Frankfurt school.

15:53 By the way, a few years back, Kyle, and an English expert, an American expert on Gramsci

16:01 translated his prison letters into English for American leftists to read and research

16:07 and study.

16:08 Okay.

16:09 He was a professor by the name of Joseph Buttigieg, Professor Joseph Buttigieg, the father of

16:18 a certain mayor, Pete Buttigieg.

16:23 So these people are Marxist and Antonio Gramsci kind of influence the Frankfurt school and

16:29 what they call the strategy of the roads that basically they said the riots in the street

16:34 aren't working to usher in the revolution, Kyle, like burning down Ferguson and Minneapolis

16:40 and that police-free zone in Seattle, Chas Chop.

16:44 Now, what I'm trying to tell you is at one point in the late 19th, early 20th century,

16:51 the cultural Marxist realized that the physical riots and political agitation wasn't working

16:59 to usher in the revolution and so they changed their strategy and recognized that if you're

17:04 going to change the culture, you've got to approach it culturally.

17:08 And so if we can get the institutions of cultural formation and power and we can control the

17:13 robes of those institutions, right, Kyle, like the academies, the institutions of science

17:19 and higher learning, the courts and the clergy, if we can control the robes of these cultural

17:26 reformative institutions, Kyle, then the revolution will happen without guns, will raise up a

17:31 generation in a new culture of activists that want to be Marxist, that want to fundamentally

17:36 change America, like Obama said, right, which is why you know Obama hates America, by the

17:40 way, because you don't fundamentally want to change something that you love, right?

17:43 Try telling your wife, baby, I love you, I just want to fundamentally transform you.

17:47 And so that's why we know these people hate America, by the way.

17:50 So anyways, so that's some of the history that led to the 1619 project.

17:54 Those are the people that Nicole Hannah Jones directly was mentored by, okay, like Angela

17:59 Davis was taught by the Frankfurt School people.

18:01 And of course later, they became tenured professors at American universities and became the fathers

18:06 of the radical hippie movement and the radical yippie movement.

18:08 Okay, I digress.

18:09 So Nicole Hannah Jones, she's a Marxist, and she says everything's racist.

18:13 So you got to burn it all down, you got to burn it all down, Kyle, because if the seed

18:18 in the root is racist, you can't save the tree, the roots, it's all it's racist, you

18:25 got to rip it out and burn it down.

18:26 And sometimes they did that literally, Kyle, right?

18:29 Not just metaphorically, they burnt down police stations and courthouses, by the way,

18:32 and whole city blocks.

18:33 Okay.

18:34 So how crazy is this that the 1619 project came out about nine months before George Floyd.

18:41 And so what is every American leftist in the media and in the culture waiting to scream

18:47 as an explanation to George Floyd, racism?

18:51 That becomes the only answer that could explain this thing, right?

18:55 And then we enter the summer of 2020.

18:58 And so BLM incorporated, Black Lives Matter, incorporated, you know, Antifa and all these

19:04 radical leftists.

19:05 What do they say?

19:06 What do they begin to do, Kyle?

19:07 You guys remember this?

19:08 They say, we have to go after corporations, institutions, organizations, and companies

19:14 that we believe have vestiges, right, vestiges of racism, like institutions and companies

19:21 and corporations that were founded on or based on or had a president or a founder or something

19:27 that was racist.

19:28 You got to do the work, silences, violence.

19:31 And they went after major figures, like cartoon characters sometimes, like old sitcoms and

19:37 TV shows, like anything, this is what the revolution always does, by the way, right?

19:42 They begin to eat their own, actually.

19:44 And so, go study the French Revolution, okay?

19:48 And so remember, Aunt Jemima, Kyle?

19:50 Remember Aunt Jemima?

19:51 - Of course.

19:52 - The Sir.

19:53 - Yeah, my sure is the least.

19:54 We have to cancel the Sir up, lady, right, because that's a vestiger, vestiger, racism.

19:59 But they did this with a ton of things, as you're well aware.

20:02 Nowhere is just more clear than the American police force, because they argued that the

20:06 police force, as we know it today, was originally set up to round up and capture escaped, right?

20:11 Slaves.

20:12 Which, by the way, some of that's true, I mean, some police did that.

20:16 But what they're saying is it was racist back then, right?

20:19 It was used for racism back then, and so defund the police.

20:23 It's irredeemable, right?

20:24 The police force is irredeemable.

20:26 It's still systemically racist.

20:28 And that's why, allegedly, black men are shot for doing nothing, where white men are never

20:32 shot in the same way, and so defund the police.

20:36 So now, we're watching the revolution eat its own in the summer of 2020.

20:40 Thanks to what?

20:42 Thanks to the 1619 project.

20:43 And how can I prove that, Kyle?

20:45 I don't know if your audience remembers this, but do you guys remember what the legacy news

20:49 media and our cultural and political betters began to call those 2020 riots?

20:56 The 1619 riots, right?

20:59 The 1619 riots.

21:01 They called the riots the name of Nicole Hannah Jones books that was stoking racial hatred

21:05 and animus and flames nine months before George Floyd.

21:09 There's your proof.

21:10 Okay.

21:11 So then they went after Planned Parenthood.

21:13 I know I took a long time to do my setup, but that's how significant the background knowledge

21:17 of this is.

21:18 Then they went after Planned Parenthood.

21:20 Who's they, conservative Christians, Kyle?

21:23 No, no, pro-abortion Marxist leftists, who support abortion, Kyle, they're not pro-life.

21:32 They support abortion, like BLM Incorporated as an organization is pro-abortion, like

21:36 everyone knows this.

21:38 And so they start to eat their own, go after their own.

21:41 And they, they went after Planned Parenthood and they said, Hey, you're founder.

21:45 You know, Margaret Sanger, you know, she was a racist and a eugenicist.

21:49 And bro, I'm like front row seat popcorn, lots of butter and an soda.

21:53 This is like, this is like great entertainment for me.

21:56 This is hilarious.

21:57 And then the director of Planned Parenthood of greater New York, I think her name was Karen

22:02 Seltzer, kind of funny name, she came out and said, um, we're done making excuses for

22:07 our founder and the damage that she did to communities of color.

22:12 The damage she did to color people.

22:14 That's what Planned Parenthood is saying about their own legacy, their own founder.

22:17 Now, remember, Planned Parenthood has been getting attacked about that legacy and about

22:22 their founder and about what Planned Parenthood was really founded to do when it was founded

22:26 in 1921 and their first clinic in 1916.

22:29 They've been getting attacked for, let's see, I don't know, over a hundred years by conservative

22:34 Christians and pro-lifers.

22:36 For a century, Kyle, they carried water for their founder.

22:39 They ignored these attacks.

22:41 They whitewashed their witch, okay?

22:44 They explained it away.

22:46 They would never acknowledge the claims that we had and the receipts and proof of exactly

22:50 how horrible the leaders were who founded Planned Parenthood.

22:54 They gave out the Margaret Sanger Award, Kyle, for decades, decades, Nancy Pelosi got the

23:01 Margaret Sanger Award.

23:02 Yo.

23:03 Okay.

23:04 We got the Margaret Sanger Award.

23:06 Kamala Harris tried really hard to get the Margaret Sanger Award, but she never got it.

23:09 And now Planned Parenthood doesn't give out the Margaret Sanger Award anymore.

23:12 Why?

23:13 Because they canceled their founder.

23:15 And so that summer of 2020, they took Sanger's name off of their mega New York City Planned

23:21 Parenthood clinic in Manhattan, called the Sanger Health Center.

23:24 They took her name off the building, renamed it.

23:27 And then New York City had that corner called the Margaret Sanger Square.

23:31 And New York City took the sign off.

23:33 So the city canceled Sanger and Planned Parenthood canceled Sanger.

23:36 But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

23:38 And I'm about to hand the mic back to you, Kyle.

23:40 What do critical race theorists teach?

23:42 What did the 1619 Project Disciples teach?

23:45 That if something is based and founded on racist, bigoted, evil roots, or like the seed,

23:52 the seed is racist and evil, you can't save the tree.

23:56 It has to be burned and chopped down.

23:59 So now do Planned Parenthood, you freaking liberal leftist hacks.

24:04 Now apply your same premises to your patron saint of feminism and the darling organization

24:10 on the left Planned Parenthood.

24:12 But they did it.

24:13 In other words, they canceled their founder, but said, oh, we're going to continue operating

24:16 just like we've always done as an organization.

24:18 And so now, now go away, go away, leftist.

24:21 We said that she was big at it.

24:23 Now go away.

24:24 And Planned Parenthood just got record level funding last year from taxpayers.

24:28 Kyle, over $700 million last year of our taxpayer dollars, over $700 million to the

24:35 largest abortion provider in the world.

24:38 So it was the 1619 KUKI revolutionaries who acknowledged, yep, what Margaret Sanger did

24:44 in 1916 when she opened her first clinic.

24:47 Yeah, it was super racist and it was super eugenics, but now go away and don't attack

24:52 us anymore.

24:53 But now I've set up our conversation, but it's pretty shocking.

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26:31 No, I appreciate the setup because, of course, they're not going to go after Planned Parenthood

26:35 because maulics still need to sacrifices.

26:37 But that's the problem because people think that critical race theory just fell out of

26:41 the sky.

26:42 You know, critical race theory, critical theory, critical legal studies, the Frankfurt School,

26:46 Grampshey, Marks and Ingalls, Satan's butthole, like it goes all the way back to that and we're

26:51 just basically living downstream of the diarrhea that has been thrust upon us.

26:55 But I mean, you mentioned a while ago, you mentioned about Michael Brown, that was the

26:59 first time after the Michael Brown shooting and after the cop was exonerated because obviously

27:05 he didn't shoot Brown, who was just an innocent guy walking down the street, you know, going

27:09 to a Bible study.

27:10 And I remember people like Jefferson Bethkey, like LaCray and some of these people, you

27:15 know, talking just talking about how our heart our heart breaks for the communities of color

27:21 right now and I'm like, wait a minute, there are plenty of things for your heart to break

27:25 about like the fatherlessness rate in that particular racial cohort, you know, some other

27:29 things that are happening in that cohort that are preventable.

27:32 If you have a culture where fathers stick around and families stick around and churches

27:37 stay together and all these types of things, it's like, I feel like we're not focusing

27:40 on the right thing.

27:41 And because even going back to the George Floyd thing, they never even alleged in court

27:46 that this was a racially motivated thing.

27:48 So this was something that was done in the court of public opinion, not the court of

27:53 law, because don't you think the DOJ at the time would have loved to have strung up those

27:58 police officers on hate crimes?

27:59 Gosh, it would have just been an absolute feathering their cap.

28:03 But the whole thing, and you actually have a very poignant quote in the 1916 project documentary,

28:10 you say abortion is almost the linchpin upon which the liberal establishment swings.

28:16 And so the linchpin moment was when Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey went the

28:21 way the trash bin.

28:23 And that was when the linchpin was pulled and you make this point the documentary, when

28:27 that linchpin was pulled, these liberal elites, the liberal establishment, progressive leftist,

28:33 all that, they began to absolutely fall into apoplexy.

28:38 And just think about it now and then I'll turn it back over.

28:41 The Kamala Harris, Tim Walsh, you know, running for the White House, one of their things that

28:46 is one of the main things that they put in all their commercials, hey, we're going to,

28:50 we're going to, you know, get the economy back on track.

28:52 We're going to get inflation to go down.

28:54 We're somehow going to take care of the Southern border as if they couldn't be doing that now.

28:57 But they are constantly talking about reproductive rights and women having the quote unquote

29:02 right to choose, it's right out there in the middle of everything and Tim Walsh signed perhaps

29:08 the most liberal state allowance for abortion all the way up to the moment of birth and

29:14 including post birth abortion where they basically set a child to the side and let them die as

29:19 if this is first century Rome and we're letting kids die from exposure unless Christians come

29:24 along and pick them up and raise them as their own and save them.

29:27 And so talk about the whole linchpin idea because I don't think people knew that when

29:32 Roe v. Wade was taken out that this was going to be just the beginning.

29:37 It's not just the linchpin, it's the pin on the grenade and we're living downstream of

29:41 the explosion.

29:42 Go.

29:43 Yeah, that's right, bro.

29:44 There's so much to say there.

29:47 But it's not just the linchpin upon which the liberal establishment swings.

29:53 It's also the sacrament of secularism, of course, it's the it's the sacrament and the center

29:59 of which the center of which the eternal sacrament, the golden sacrament is the sacrifice of children

30:05 upon the altar of convenience.

30:07 Yep.

30:08 Yep.

30:09 You know, we just have different gods in America today, but it's just the God of self, you

30:14 know, education, career, well-being, money, family, it's just it's just the idol and God

30:20 of self, but, but, you know, demons don't care.

30:24 Satan doesn't care if you call him by name.

30:28 As long as you continue to shove children down his throat, he'll say yes and amen, right?

30:33 He is the God of the religion of secular progressivism.

30:39 By the way, by in saying that, because I'm hearing critics already in my head, I'm not

30:43 saying that Jesus is the God of the conservative movement or the Republican Party.

30:48 Right.

30:49 He's coming in.

30:50 He's coming back.

30:51 So he's very political in that sense.

30:52 He's a monarch.

30:54 But what I'm saying is while Jesus is neither a Republican or a Democrat, Satan is definitely

30:59 a Democrat.

31:00 That's what that's actually what I'm saying that that's that's Satan's preferred party.

31:05 And and oh, for over big evangelicalism, big Eva, institutional managers, weak, wimpy,

31:11 woke, weak, risted pastors who would speak as clearly to their congregations.

31:17 Um, anyways, I, I'm getting carried on a tangent here, but no, no, no, so let, let, let,

31:22 let me hop in there actually on that because Eric Metaxas was featured in your documentary

31:26 poignantly.

31:27 He wrote letter to the American church.

31:29 Obviously that is a downstream of the book that he wrote about Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

31:34 And that book basically talks about if there were just a few thousand more non-wussied non-limp-risted

31:42 German pastors in the 1930s in Germany, there is no third Reich.

31:46 There is no rise of the Nazi party.

31:48 There is no World War II.

31:49 There is no Holocaust.

31:51 And I mean, this isn't a mathematical equation.

31:53 This was they, these men didn't think that was the hill that was worth dying on.

31:58 And as I tell men all the time, you will continuously let battles pass you by, pass you by, pass

32:03 you by, because this is not the hill that's worth dying on.

32:06 And then one day you will wake up and realize that the war is now over and you have never

32:10 picked up your sword, your shield and put on your helmet.

32:13 And now you want to complain.

32:14 I'm sorry if I don't believe you.

32:16 So talk a little bit more about the pastors because this specific issue, this is the one.

32:21 So it's abortion, it's LGBTQ and it's race.

32:24 These are the ones that pastors don't want to touch, lest they be accused of getting

32:28 into the culture wars or lest they be accused of not, you know, telling people, hey, we

32:33 should be about what we're for, not what we're against, like all this kind of nonsense.

32:37 And so they get wrapped around the axle of trying to impress everybody in their congregation

32:41 with how open minded they are, and what they end up doing is they confuse their flock about

32:46 how to engage in a godly way in culture.

32:49 So please talk more about that.

32:50 Well, I mean, it's really simple actually.

32:52 So I'll bring the two questions together and I'll try to answer them together actually.

32:57 Those who murder the unborn cannot be trusted to govern the born.

33:01 And those who murder the unborn will one day murder you to the longer you tolerate the

33:05 sacrament of secularism, the sacrament of Satan.

33:09 If our government can remove the right to life of an entire class of human beings, then

33:13 there's nothing else they cannot do.

33:16 There's a reason why our founders created an order of rights, right?

33:21 We mold these truths to be self evident that all men are endowed by their creator with

33:25 certain inalienable route created equal and doubt by their creator with certain inalienable

33:28 rights that among us are the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

33:31 The right to liberty and pursuit of happiness don't mean much.

33:34 In fact, they mean nothing at all if you can be murdered.

33:36 If you can be killed, abortion is wrong because I was once a fetus actually Kyle.

33:41 That's my argument.

33:43 Abortion is wrong because I was once a fetus.

33:46 It's a substance view of persons, more philosophical conversation if you want to get into it.

33:51 But it's I am the same being now that I was when I came into being when I came into existence.

33:57 And by the way, all secular bioethicists today admit anyone that's worth their salt.

34:03 There's broad consensus amongst atheist secular bioethicists that the child is a human being

34:09 from the moment of conception.

34:10 That's when a human being begins.

34:11 That's when their existence begins.

34:12 It's the only logical conclusion.

34:14 Yeah.

34:15 And so if you don't draw the line there and you don't recognize that that's the beginning

34:19 of you, then when was the beginning of you?

34:25 And so here's where it gets complicated, right?

34:27 And here's where it gets actually really evil and demonic, by the way, which is how I'm

34:30 going to bridge over to why pastors won't preach against it.

34:34 If you don't draw the line of conception and you don't draw it at birth, right?

34:40 Because like for too many people, that's too intense, right?

34:43 Except for like every almost every senator in the Democrat party today.

34:46 But like the lay voters of America, Kyle, the lay voters who are Democrat are not chill

34:51 with their trimester abortions.

34:52 The polling does not show that Democrat voters are like, whoa, 38 week abortions.

34:58 Yeah.

34:59 And that's not what most Democrat voters support.

35:02 Now they're probably want to kill the first trimester babies and that's demonic and evil

35:05 and stupid.

35:06 But as the child gets more developed and bigger and starts to look more like us, Kyle, it

35:11 becomes, it starts making most Americans really uncomfortable to say let's rip off their arms

35:15 or shove a needle in through the mother's abdomen and shove digoxin into their heart

35:19 to cause a cardiac arrest.

35:21 They're like, maybe let's not do that.

35:23 And so if you're not willing to protect the child at conception, but you're also not willing

35:29 to grant their protection at birth, then it has to be somewhere in utero.

35:34 And so now what we start having is we start having a conversation, Kyle, about cognitive

35:38 abilities.

35:39 Right?

35:40 Well, is it conscious?

35:42 Is it self-aware?

35:44 Does it have any desires?

35:47 Does it have cortical brain activity?

35:50 Does it dream?

35:52 Does he or she know it exists and all these stupid arguments that are based not on their

35:58 nature, because what's their nature, human, but based on their function.

36:03 So this is not the endowment view of rights that we got from our founders, right?

36:07 All men are created equal and endowed, endowed by their creator.

36:11 What does endowed mean, Kyle?

36:13 It means that someone gave this to you.

36:16 And so no one else can take it away.

36:18 That's what endowed means, brother.

36:20 So if we don't go with the endowment view of rights, that the child is endowed with a

36:23 right to life from the moment they became human, then we have to go with the performance

36:28 or functionalist account for rights, which says not all humans are persons.

36:33 So maybe the baby's human in the womb, but it's not a person.

36:35 Wait a second, Kyle.

36:36 Oh, wait, full stop on your podcast.

36:38 I've heard that language before of a human, but not person, holy bleep.

36:44 That's exactly what Dred Scott v. Sanford said when it said that the black man may be

36:48 human, but not a person.

36:49 That's exactly what the he's get each said.

36:51 The German Supreme Court, when they said the Jew may be human, but not person.

36:55 And in 1973, in Roe versus Wade, that's what our Supreme Court said, Kyle.

36:59 They said that the term person is used in the Constitution does not include the unborn.

37:04 So every time you rip the term human in person apart, you rip them apart, disastrous consequences

37:12 have followed every single time.

37:14 So we've been doing that to the unborn for over 50 years.

37:16 Remember, the first states to legalize abortion in America, Kyle was 1970, three years before

37:21 the federal decision, Roe versus Wade.

37:23 So why are we surprised?

37:24 I'm sorry.

37:25 Why are we surprised that we're now like removing parental rights?

37:29 We're saying Democrats are saying that these are our children, right?

37:32 Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been saying that a lot the last four years.

37:34 Our children.

37:35 And who are they talking about?

37:36 They're talking about your children.

37:37 Sorry about American children.

37:38 Right.

37:39 Right.

37:40 Why do they arrest parents speaking of school board meetings?

37:41 Why are pro-life sidewalk counselors being thrown in prison?

37:43 Why have California, Washington, Minnesota and other states now, Kyle, looking at passing

37:47 states that allow the state to take your minor from you if they're gender confused.

37:52 And one or both parents is not affirming of their minor's gender delusion and a public

37:57 health follow the science expert determines that your non-affirming attitude as a parent

38:03 is a harm to your minor's mental health, then CPS can take your kid.

38:06 Like why are we surprised by any of this stuff, Kyle?

38:08 I don't understand why people are surprised by this.

38:10 We've been slaughtering babies for over 50 years in America through point of birth for

38:14 any reason or no reason at all and funded by the taxpayer.

38:18 So yes, it's the linchpin upon which the liberal establishment swings and they're proving

38:22 this right now, Kyle, when they're saying all the Democrats have been hearing, have you

38:25 been hearing them say this, this election will be a referendum on abortion.

38:29 They're saying it's going to all be about worshipping mola.

38:31 He needs more children.

38:33 He needs more blood.

38:34 We have to feed him that this is the sacrament of secularism.

38:38 And from a theological perspective, this is what's important for the church to understand

38:43 is that not only does God make his position on killing babies very clear in the Bible,

38:52 but the left can't help but use the words of Jesus to defend their pro-abortion world

38:59 to you, Kyle.

39:00 What is the rallying cry, brother?

39:02 What is the one phrase?

39:03 If I had to put you on the spot right now and say, what's the rallying cry and chant

39:07 that the pro-choice movement has had for 50 years to defend abortion?

39:10 What is it?

39:11 Love your neighbor as yourself.

39:12 Well, no, no, no, like at pro-abortion rallies, what does every pro-abortion hack scream on

39:18 podcasts for 50 years to defend the pro-choice position?

39:23 Go ahead and hit me with it.

39:24 That's the only one I can think of.

39:25 My body, my choice.

39:27 This is my body.

39:29 This is my body.

39:30 That's literally like the signs at pro-abortion rallies when they were wearing pussy hats,

39:36 vagina hats at the Women's March, that everything they scream has always been, they write it

39:40 on their signs, they put this as my body.

39:43 They put my body, my choice.

39:44 Those are the two most commonly used phrases to defend abortion, Kyle, for decades, for

39:51 a half century, bro.

39:53 Okay.

39:54 Well, I've heard that phrase before.

39:55 This is my body.

39:56 I think it was what my Savior said at the last communion, okay, at the last supper.

40:03 This is my body.

40:04 I break it for you, take and eat in remembrance of me, for I will not eat of this bread or

40:10 drink of this vine until I drink it anew with you and my father's kingdom.

40:13 Bro, it's not a coincidence, brother listening to this, that they quote the words of Jesus

40:20 as the fundamental argument and phrase to defend abortion, right?

40:24 So Christ says, this is my body.

40:26 I break it.

40:27 What does he mean?

40:28 I break my body for you.

40:30 I'm going to go be brutalized and broken right now for you.

40:35 For what?

40:36 For the forgiveness of sins in eternal life.

40:38 Now repent and believe for the kingdom of God is at hand.

40:40 Jesus is first words of public ministry.

40:43 So Jesus says, this is my body.

40:45 I break it for you.

40:46 Abortion says, this is my body.

40:48 I break you baby for me.

40:51 The baby becomes the alternative sacrifice, bro, on man's pursuit for eternal life.

40:57 And if this is starting to, no, I think you're, you know, you got a pretty fired up podcast

41:01 base.

41:02 But if this is starting to sound a little kooky and weird, let me prove it to you brother listening

41:05 to this.

41:06 Okay.

41:07 Have you ever heard of embryonic stem cell research?

41:10 Have you heard of fetal organ harvesting, fetal tissue research?

41:15 Here's a new one for you, Kyle, that the scientists under Fauci and Francis Collins and our three

41:20 letter agencies are, I have been doing recently.

41:23 It's called prenatal gene editing, prenatal gene editing.

41:28 And so they, they can see children.

41:30 These are eternal souls.

41:31 You understand that?

41:32 These are image bearers of God.

41:33 They conceive little babies in labs, Kyle, and they poke around and they try to edit

41:37 their genes.

41:39 Now the baby dies in the process, but hey, that's acceptable, right?

41:43 Because if we can perfect the gene editing on the little, little baby's Kyle, then when

41:47 it's safe, we can do gene editing on ourselves.

41:52 And we can edit out of our gene code, maybe like susceptibilities we have, right, to like

41:56 disorders or diseases.

41:57 That's the CRISPR, the CRISPR technology.

42:00 Yes.

42:01 Yes.

42:02 That's CRISPR.

42:03 So if we can get rid of that from our gene code, Kyle, we can learn to live just a little

42:06 bit longer.

42:07 So what's the common denominator between embryonic stem cell research, fetal organ

42:11 harvesting, fetal tissue research and prenatal gene editing?

42:14 The baby becomes a sacrifice on man's pursuit for eternal life.

42:18 But wait a second, there was a sacrifice given.

42:21 There was a sacrifice given for eternal life, brother.

42:25 He's the greatest former fetus.

42:28 He's the greatest former fetus to have ever existed.

42:31 He entered human history in a uterus to redeem mankind from their sins.

42:36 He did not enter human history as a 30-year-old man.

42:39 He entered our time and space and dirt in a process he really reveres, a process he considers

42:43 sacred and holy, conception, gestation, birth.

42:48 You don't mess with what's in the womb because you're Savior entered human history in a womb

42:52 to redeem you from your sins.

42:56 The people who say this is not a biblical issue, the Bible doesn't prohibit abortion.

43:00 It doesn't speak to the issue of abortion are saying that Mary would have had a right

43:04 to murder their Savior because if women have a right to abortion, then all women have a

43:08 right to abortion, Kyle.

43:10 And if all women have a right to abortion, then so did Mother Mary, which means she had

43:14 a fundamental health care feminism, human right to slaughter and dismember your Savior

43:19 in the womb.

43:21 That's actually what we're up against.

43:23 This is my body.

43:24 I break it for you and abortion demands that we break the bodies and shed the blood of

43:28 babies to pursue that eternal life that's already been granted to you on Calvary.

43:33 If you would humble yourself, hit your knees and repent and call on the King of Kings and

43:39 Lord of Lords, the former fetus who came to redeem you.

43:42 So Peter craved the Catholic philosopher, Kyle.

43:46 Put it this way.

43:47 He said, "Don't you know, church, abortion is the demonic parody of the Eucharist."

43:51 Whoa.

43:52 He said, "Abortion is the demonic parody of the Eucharist.

43:56 That's why it uses the same holy words.

44:00 This is my body.

44:03 But with the opposite blasphemous meaning.

44:05 But Kyle, what does Christ say after this is my body?

44:10 He says, "Take and eat."

44:11 That's what he says, "Take and eat in remembrance of me."

44:16 I'm going to tell you something I've been starting to say on a couple shows recently.

44:20 Very, very recently.

44:21 I've only shared this two or three times.

44:24 The joke I get the most, and this will be hard for the man who listened to your podcast

44:28 to hear, but the joke I get the most for years, for years on my social media platforms, through

44:37 messages and through comments from pro-abortion accounts and left-wing weirdos, the number

44:44 one most common joke I get is about eating fetuses.

44:51 It's about eating fetuses.

44:53 They think it's really funny if you're in the abortion wars, Kyle, and you're in the

44:57 pro-life movement, especially if you're a public figure.

45:01 This does not surprise you.

45:03 If you've been in the pro-life fight and somehow this clip takes off and some pro-lifers us

45:07 into this, you know what they'll say, Kyle?

45:09 "Oh, yeah.

45:10 No, I know.

45:11 I get that all the time."

45:12 The pro-abortion folks think it's super funny to make jokes about eating babies.

45:16 They'll comment to me and send me messages, Kyle, and they'll say, "Yummy, delicious.

45:21 Just finish some feta soup."

45:23 This is like the most common joke in the abortion industry, and I'm simply suggesting to you

45:27 that maybe it was always theological and demonic all the time.

45:30 Maybe the reason they quote the words of Jesus to defend abortion, "This is my body," is

45:34 because it's demonic and they can't help but use spiritual language to try to articulate

45:39 their paganism.

45:41 Maybe the reason that they make jokes about eating fetuses is because after Christ says,

45:44 "This is my body," he said, "Take and eat," and so they're saying, "Take and eat."

45:48 That's actually what we're up against.

45:50 Some pastors and preachers and Christians fail to act, mobilize, fight against, or preach

45:55 against what is fundamentally false religion, because they say, "I just preached the gospel."

45:59 I say, "No, you just preach a soft, soap truncated, syncretized little truncated gospel so you

46:05 can keep your 501(c)(3) status, not offend the Democrats who attend your church because you

46:10 don't want to lose their ties, and if you're Rick Warren, it's because you want to be invited

46:14 to Davos by Klaus Schwab at the World Economic Forum every year.

46:18 You're an institutional manager, you're not a Christian leader.

46:20 You should step down from ministry and hand your pulpit to someone else who will preach

46:24 a full counsel of God against what is fundamentally doctrines of demons.

46:28 That's actually what we're up against.

46:30 That's the truth and myth and the veil behind "choice" in America.

46:35 When I think going back to that quote you had from Peter Creifte, abortion is the photo

46:42 negative of the Last Supper.

46:44 That's literally the exact same elements, but truly in the opposite.

46:48 It's the upside down.

46:50 In the sacrifice, the point you made that was very good, the point about the eternal life

46:55 that we already have, but they won't humble themselves enough for repentance.

46:58 That's actually the key, because that sacrifice requires something of us, which is our repentance,

47:05 which is not saying I'm sorry very fervently, but it's turning 180 from the person that you

47:09 were in going in the opposite direction.

47:12 This is why I think it's so important for individuals and the reason why I thought about

47:17 love your neighbor as yourself is because that's what Gavin Newsom was spending tens

47:20 of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to put on billboards in red states

47:26 to tell them really you should think this way about abortion when it comes up to your

47:29 midterm elections and you're trying to decide what you're going to do.

47:32 This is what happened in Kansas.

47:34 This is what's going to be happening this fall in Missouri and in Florida.

47:38 In these places, they're going to flood you with this idea.

47:41 If you have soft, underheaded theology, you will think to yourself, wait, if I vote against

47:47 this thing, which is going to make it harder for women to get abortions in my state, then

47:50 somehow I'm not loving them.

47:52 I guess I need to vote for this thing or against it depending on the language so that I can

47:57 be for these people.

47:59 The hard part that most pastors, I would say, don't think through is they think, yes, they're

48:04 thinking about their 501(c)(3) status, they're thinking about their congregants, but they're

48:08 like, hey, Sunday morning is not the place for political discussions.

48:11 I can't put my ballot up on the board and say, this is what Jesus would want you to do.

48:16 But it's like, guys, if it's about tax policy, if it's about international relations, even

48:22 if it's about the border, okay, I'm okay with you skipping it.

48:25 This is just not the subject to punt on the, it's, it's even nicer than me.

48:30 You're even nicer than me that the Bible is very pro borders and the Bible has a Christian

48:35 world view, but like this is the sacraments.

48:41 This is like baby killing.

48:42 And if you can, right, but preach on that pastor, yeah, you don't get a pass, go when what

48:47 can you preach on?

48:48 Yeah, exactly.

48:49 Well, that's the line.

48:50 It's like when you draw your line in the sand and that's the line that you draw, I have

48:53 some questions.

48:54 And the reality is, is we see more fervent courage coming from people who are not going

49:00 to have to give an account someday for how they shepherd it a flock because they themselves

49:04 don't have one need to remind these pastors of the passages and Hebrews that say, you

49:08 will have to give an account someday for how you shepherd your flock.

49:10 I'm not going to have to give an account someday for how fervently I took notes during your

49:13 sermon.

49:14 But I think all this kind of coalesces into, okay, what is the white rose resistance?

49:19 Because ultimately the story of the white rose resistance were lay people that realized

49:25 the evil that was going on around them.

49:27 And they knew the consequences of speaking up.

49:30 And they said, damn the consequences, I have to say something and they paid for it with

49:34 their necks.

49:35 So can you give us an idea of what the white rose resistance is?

49:38 You do talk about it in the film, guys, you need to go and check it out.

49:40 It will be in the show notes, but just kind of give us an overview of what that movement

49:44 was.

49:45 Yeah.

49:46 Yeah.

49:47 I mean, it was an anti-Nazi Christian resistance group of a bunch of kids in their 20s who

49:49 are ultimately beheaded because they were trying to wake up churches and Christians

49:53 to do something and stand against the Holocaust and the tyranny of Hitler.

49:57 And they're all in their 20s.

49:59 So it's super inspirational.

50:00 We tell the story in the book in the film.

50:03 And I can tell more of that story, Kyle, but I thought that it might be valuable with

50:07 the time we have left for your listeners to actually maybe get a little bit of a taste

50:11 and teaser of exactly how shocking this film and book is.

50:15 Let's go.

50:16 We talked about how 1619 weirdos got Planned Parenthood to acknowledge that the legacy

50:22 of 1916 with the first Planned Parenthood clinic was super racist and eugenicist.

50:27 But I think one of the reasons that we have so many sleeping Christians beyond the cowardice

50:33 and silence of their shepherds who need to be held to account and called out is simply

50:38 we just don't know.

50:40 We don't know this stuff, Kyle.

50:41 Like the number one response I get from Christians and churches, bro, for the last few years

50:47 is, Seth, I've never heard any of this before.

50:50 I mean, we simply don't understand how we got here.

50:54 In Hosea 4/6, God tells his people, he says, "My people are being destroyed for lack of

51:01 knowledge.

51:02 They're being destroyed."

51:03 And not that they were.

51:05 Like it's actively happening now.

51:07 We are actively being destroyed right now, Kyle, for lack of knowledge.

51:12 And by the way, when I say Christians tell me I've never heard this before, Seth, who

51:15 am I referring to?

51:17 Some of the most bold and culturally engaged churches, because obviously David Platt ain't

51:22 ever given me as pulpit, Kyle, like Tim Keller's leaders are not inviting me to preach at Redeemer

51:28 Presbyterian.

51:29 Like Stephen Furtick would give out a thousand yeasies to homeless people before I could

51:34 be allowed to enter Elevation Church.

51:36 You understand what I'm saying?

51:37 The churches I'm in are already bold and engaged, and they do quite a bit to educate their congregants.

51:43 And it's those warriors who are telling me, "I didn't know.

51:46 I didn't know any of this stuff."

51:48 And so how can you defeat an enemy that you don't understand?

51:50 How can you destroy an enemy that you don't know exists?

51:53 We have to understand how we got here.

51:55 One of G.K.

51:56 Chesterton's best friends, Hilare Baloch, put it this way.

51:59 He said, "To comprehend the history of a thing is to unlock the mysteries of its present,

52:06 but more to discover the profundities of its future."

52:10 So to comprehend the history of something is to unlock the mysteries of its present,

52:15 of what's happening now.

52:17 If you understand what happened then, you'll be able to understand why what's happening

52:20 now makes a lot of sense and where we're going to continue to go in the future if nothing

52:25 changes.

52:26 That's what that means.

52:27 And so what we've done with the 1916 project, Kyle, is really put together a lot of the

52:31 puzzle pieces of the sexual revolution, the Marxist-Pagan revolutionary kooky weirdos of

52:37 the 20th century, although we traced their mentors back to the late 1700s actually, Kyle.

52:42 To explain, how did we get here?

52:44 How did this happen?

52:46 And what was it?

52:47 It was Graham Shee's model.

52:48 It was the strategy of the robes.

52:50 It was let's approach this culturally and fundamentally change the culture forever by

52:56 getting the schools, the minds of young people, the clergy, the courts, the scientific organizations,

53:03 the Fauci's, and then we'll be able to transform America forever and make it a Marxist, utopian,

53:09 paradise.

53:10 And so that's what they did.

53:12 They went and got all the institutions of power and probably no one implemented the strategy

53:15 of the robes better in the 20th century than Margaret Saint-Germain.

53:20 She is probably one of the most successful revolutionary leftists of the last 115 years,

53:26 whose fingerprints and legacy on today's insanity, Kyle, is probably greater than anyone else's

53:32 spawned out of the 20th century.

53:34 So just a little bit of the background of exactly what we're dealing with.

53:38 This book and film isn't just like, here's why Planned Parenthood sucks.

53:42 Like that's what you're looking for, go follow some pro-life blog.

53:46 This goes way deeper into how this all happened and why it was way bigger than killing babies.

53:51 Now that's the sacrament.

53:53 That's a linchpin.

53:54 But these people wanted all of the different iterations of the sexual revolution.

53:59 And so just, just to like, just as a little teaser here, I mean, this is what gets me

54:04 called Alex Jones, tin hat wearing weirdo, but I have all the receipts and proof and citations

54:09 in my book.

54:11 One of Margaret Saint-Germain's good friends, financiers, was a man named Madison Grant.

54:19 They wrote for each other's publications, they fundraised together.

54:23 Madison Grant was the founder and president of the American Eugenics Society.

54:30 That's right, the American Eugenics Society.

54:32 And he wrote a book called The Passing of the Great Race in 1916, which is interesting.

54:37 Same year that Margaret Saint-Germain opened her first Planned Parenthood birth control

54:40 clinic.

54:41 He wrote this book called The Passing of the Great Race in 1916, Kyle.

54:46 And he called for the obliteration of the unfit.

54:51 And he said, "Human life is only valuable when it is of use to the community or race."

54:56 And guess what?

54:57 He blamed Christian charity and the religion of Christianity for preventing the obliteration

55:03 of the unfit, the murder and sterilization of the unfit.

55:07 Is it starting to sound like Hitler?

55:09 The people that were unfit, they shouldn't be allowed to have kids.

55:14 People don't know this.

55:15 But guess what?

55:16 Guys, Margaret Saint-Germain called for sterilization and segregation camps for the unfit.

55:21 This is the founder of Planned Parenthood.

55:24 She once said, "Enforce a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to

55:29 that great of population whose progeny, like their inheritance, whose progeny is tainted

55:34 and whose inheritance is already such, that objectionable traits might be transmitted

55:41 to offspring."

55:42 And she called for setting up segregation camps where people that she and her liberal

55:47 friends didn't think should be allowed to have kids would have to be housed permanently

55:51 in.

55:52 Like this is the things that the founder of Planned Parenthood called for, as did her

55:55 friend Madison Grant.

55:56 So he writes his book The Passing of the Great Race.

55:59 Well, his executive secretary, Leon Whitney, I know we're getting super historian here,

56:04 but you're not going to hear this anywhere else.

56:06 Leon Whitney was the executive secretary of the American Eugenics Society.

56:10 Leon Whitney wrote a book called Selective Sterilization, or it was actually an article

56:14 in Margaret Saint-Germain magazine.

56:15 Oh, that's right.

56:16 I forgot to tell you.

56:17 Margaret Saint-Germain had a magazine.

56:18 It was called The Birth Control Review, where she would platform these ideas on the

56:21 American and on the world stage and invite her eugenicist, Marxist, Hitlerian, Hitlerian

56:27 friends to publish their ideas in her magazine on eugenics.

56:30 Well, one of those articles was written by Leon Whitney, who worked for Madison Grant,

56:34 the founder of the American Eugenics Society.

56:36 And Leon Whitney wrote a piece called Selective Sterilization, an urgent need, an urgent need.

56:41 So it's an urgent need to selectively sterilize people, only those that are a threat to the

56:45 gene pool that we don't want having kids, because, you know, we're trying to create

56:48 this uber mention, uber mention, super race.

56:51 And so we have to obliterate the Unter mention, the Unter mention, the subhumans.

56:55 That was the title of Heinrich Himmler's famous Nazi propaganda book, by the way, dead

56:59 Unter mention, subhuman.

57:01 And so Leon Whitney writes about how he met with Margaret Sanger, how good friends they

57:06 were and how he was trying to convince her to merge their two organizations.

57:10 He said that we're basically doing the same things, you know, us over here at the American

57:13 Eugenics Society, and you with the American Birth Control League, by the way, before Planned

57:17 Parenthood was called Planned Parenthood, it was called the American Birth Control League.

57:21 She changed the name to Planned Parenthood in 1942, because in 1942, Kyle Hitler was

57:26 starting to give the phrase eugenics, a slightly negative connotation, and everyone knew that

57:31 Sanger was involved in the eugenics movement, and so she changed the name so that the American

57:36 Birth Control League, that name, it was like, ooh, it was too involved in eugenics.

57:40 So let's change the name to Planned Parenthood, just as an interesting factoid for your audience.

57:44 So Leon Whitney says, hey, Sanger, let's just merge our two organizations and our two magazines,

57:48 because we want the same thing.

57:49 We're doing the same thing.

57:50 Well, what did they want exactly?

57:52 Well, here's a cool story to prove what they wanted, Kyle.

57:55 This will red pill your audience more than they already are for goodness sakes.

57:58 One day Leon Whitney got a letter in the mail, the guy who wrote the piece Selective Sterilization.

58:04 Leon Whitney got a letter in the mail from a German corporal, recently out of prison,

58:10 and rising in the German political scene, thanking Leon Whitney for some of his writings on eugenics.

58:16 And so Leon Whitney was getting fan mail from some guy in Germany or something.

58:21 And Leon Whitney writes about this in his unpublished book, which I have the manuscript

58:25 of, and Leon Whitney interrupted a committee meeting because he ran over to his friend

58:29 and boss, Madison Grant, who wrote that book, The Passing of the Great Race, where he said,

58:33 we have to obliterate the unfit and it's Christians who are stopping us.

58:37 And he said, Madison Grant, our writings are influencing the Germans.

58:44 And Madison Grant smiled and chuckled and pulled out his own letter that he had just

58:48 received from the same German corporal recently out of prison, and rising in the German political

58:55 scene after his failed coup attempt in Munich.

58:59 The man who wrote that fan mail and letters was named Adolf Hitler, who was reading the

59:07 writings of Margaret Sanger's best friends financiers, who told Sanger we're in this

59:13 same movement, that remember Leon Whitney, who got the fan mail from Hitler and ran over

59:18 to Madison Grant to say, look at this, that guy Leon Whitney said, we should merge the

59:22 American eugenics society with Planned Parenthood.

59:25 Let's just make them the same organization.

59:28 And so the Hilarian roots here are so shocking later when she found the organization in 1921,

59:34 Kyle, her first board member was a man named Lothrop Stoddard, Lothrop Stoddard was the

59:39 grand wizard of the Massachusetts KKK, the Massachusetts Ku Klux Klan.

59:44 He was one of the intellectual fathers of the KKK movement, Lothrop Stoddard wrote

59:49 a book called The Menace of the Underman, because the Underman, you know, those are

59:53 the bad people that shouldn't have kids, the Underman.

59:56 And they're a menace, like Dennis the Menace, they're a menace because we have to create

1:00:00 the super race and they're stopping us because of their bad genes.

1:00:04 And so he wrote this book, The Menace of the Underman.

1:00:06 This is the founding board member, founding founding board member of Planned Parenthood.

1:00:10 And Lothrop Stoddard was so well loved by the Nazis, he was invited to the Third Reich

1:00:15 in 1939.

1:00:17 And Sanger's board member and friend and financier is the only American we know of, who had

1:00:21 a one on one, a one on one meeting with Hitler after he rose to power.

1:00:26 He wrote, he wrote about it in his book when he came back in 1939 in a book called Into

1:00:30 the Darkness, Nazi Germany Today.

1:00:33 In fact, later, one of Hitler's henchmen, and I'll finish my just my teaser history with

1:00:38 this comment, one of Hitler's henchmen, Kyle, a man named Hans F. Gunther, Hans F. Gunther,

1:00:46 who was a German race anthropologist, any eugenicist, who was also an author on eugenics, whose books

1:00:52 had helped shape, shape Hitler's view of the final solution, Hans Gunther, who had won

1:01:00 a eugenics award from Hitler.

1:01:04 Okay, so this guy's high up is what I'm trying to say later, and I have all these receipts

1:01:08 for everything I'm telling you guys right now in my book, the 1916 project, Hans Gunther

1:01:12 bro, Kyle, this is so shocking.

1:01:15 Later said that Lothrop Stoddard, the KKK guy, right, who was the founding board member

1:01:21 of Planned Parenthood, that Lothrop Stoddard and Madison Grant, the American eugenics society

1:01:26 guy, he said, those two men, he said, we're quote, listen to this.

1:01:30 Quote, the spiritual fathers of Nazi Germany.

1:01:37 And quote, that and more folks in my book, the 1916 project, the subtitle of my book

1:01:43 is the lying, the lying, the witch in the war we're in, the lying, the witch in the war

1:01:48 we're in, the 1916 project, you can get it at the 1916 project.com or on Amazon Prime.

1:01:56 And let's make this thing in New York Times bestseller because this is exactly what the

1:01:59 church and the next generation needs.

1:02:02 So we know what we're up against today.

1:02:04 So we can be like Gideon and judges six and start tearing down some high places to these,

1:02:09 this sex cult and child sacrifice religion in America.

1:02:12 Hey guys, all those notes are all those links will be in the show notes, but yeah, in the

1:02:16 document, or you get into the so-called Negro project, you get into the connection between

1:02:21 the birth control movement and the Nazis, even more so than you did just there.

1:02:25 That's the importance of this one neighborhood in Brownsville in the Brooklyn borough in New

1:02:30 York City.

1:02:31 What about Greenwich Village?

1:02:32 I used to actually live in Greenwich Village.

1:02:33 Like where did all that happen?

1:02:34 We actually filmed that.

1:02:35 One of the scenes you filmed, you were literally like a block away from where I used to live.

1:02:40 Yeah.

1:02:41 Yeah.

1:02:42 And so there's a lot of very, very important things there.

1:02:43 And guys, this is one of those films.

1:02:45 This is my commercial for your commercial and then we'll wrap up the commercial here is

1:02:49 I have a really bad habit of even when I'm watching a movie, I will still have my phone

1:02:52 in my hand.

1:02:53 I'll be doing emails.

1:02:54 I'll be working through and going through Twitter.

1:02:55 The problem with this is if you zone out for five minutes, you're going to lose the

1:03:01 thread a little bit.

1:03:02 So this is one of those films.

1:03:03 It's not going to take you all day.

1:03:04 This isn't the Lord of the Rings trilogy or anything like that.

1:03:07 You've got to just buckle up and pay attention, put your phone under the pillow and just buckle

1:03:11 up and pay attention.

1:03:12 And here's the other thing I would say, guys, listening to this, which has a majority of

1:03:16 our audience, I understand that abortion is a hard topic to talk about in most polite

1:03:21 company and I understand that your wife's number one thing to do on a Friday night is

1:03:25 probably not going to be, hey, can we watch that abortion documentary?

1:03:28 It's probably not going to be that, but it's very, very important that she be equipped

1:03:33 with the exact same information as you because again, as you said several times, we can't

1:03:38 push back on the darkness.

1:03:40 If we refuse to look at it, if we just plug our ears and pretend it'll go away, darkness

1:03:43 does not stop itself.

1:03:45 Darkness and evil has to be stopped.

1:03:47 And ultimately, we know the end of the story.

1:03:49 We know that we will win.

1:03:51 We know that Jesus will reign supreme, but right now on this planet, it is our duty, not

1:03:56 our privilege.

1:03:57 It is our duty to push back darkness and this is one of those areas we have to do it.

1:04:01 Now, Seth, we've gone everywhere and we've been in and out of a lot of subject matters

1:04:04 on this podcast, but as of now, that is all I've got.

1:04:07 That's all for me.

1:04:08 Is there anything else you want to get off your chest?

1:04:09 Yeah.

1:04:10 Thank you, brother.

1:04:11 So it is a 75 minute full length documentary.

1:04:14 It took me a year to make the spiritual warfare was intense.

1:04:17 I won't get into that now, but I don't think the enemy wanted this film or project to be

1:04:21 done.

1:04:22 Okay.

1:04:23 We have insurance because we expect attacks or possibly a libel lawsuit from Planned Parenthood.

1:04:28 The film comes out streaming for the world the first week of October.

1:04:32 The book comes out September 4th.

1:04:36 And we would love for you guys to get some we have we have bulk discount.

1:04:40 If you buy it in bulk, like five or 10 or 20, you get a cheaper discount for that.

1:04:44 It's not just for educational purposes, although that's important enough, right?

1:04:50 Because knowledge is power and it changes how you live, how you vote, how you pray and

1:04:54 how you think.

1:04:55 But we're building a movement with this with the at the white rose resistance, which is

1:04:59 now the fastest growing pro life organization in the country.

1:05:02 We're launching resistance chapters all around the country.

1:05:04 We've launched in Boise.

1:05:05 We've launched in Southern California.

1:05:07 We're launching in Denver and August and then Fort Worth and probably Florida before the

1:05:11 end of the year as well before the end of 2024.

1:05:14 And we're mobilizing believers.

1:05:15 We're hiring leaders to to train and educate Christians and get them engaged.

1:05:20 I don't think the politicians are coming to save us anytime soon, Kyle.

1:05:23 I think some of the stuff is so evil, the Republican party is a joke, the GOP is a joke.

1:05:27 And I think if we turn around this country, it's going to be because Christians are rebuilding

1:05:31 the legacy of Christian resistance locally where they live and pushing back.

1:05:35 And there's a lot we can be doing, but we have to do more than just vote now if we want

1:05:38 to save this culture, the unborn, the family and the next generation who we will hand this

1:05:42 country to.

1:05:43 So we're doing something in January called life or death con, life or death con.

1:05:50 It's a pro it's a pro life conference because we need better intellectual thought leadership

1:05:53 in the pro life movement.

1:05:54 And that will be in Washington, DC the day before the March for life.

1:05:58 And then in June of next year, June of 2025, we're doing the last stand.

1:06:02 You can you guys go to the last stand.com the last stand.com.

1:06:06 We haven't released speakers yet, but we're talking Charlie Kirk, Pastor Jack Hibbs, John

1:06:10 Cooper from Skillet, Danny Gokey, Ali Bestucky.

1:06:14 We're working on getting Tucker Carlson, 10,000 people, prayer, worship, national repentance

1:06:19 and mobilization to then launch a hundred new chapters around the country.

1:06:23 And these are not university clubs, like turning point, I love turning point.

1:06:26 This is the church launching chapters to mobilize the church to fulfill her duty.

1:06:31 So organizations like mine are not needed anymore.

1:06:34 This is the church's job Kyle to stand for children, the innocence of children, the family,

1:06:38 the unborn, the next generation.

1:06:40 And so this book and film is really movement building.

1:06:43 We would love to have your guys support getting behind this.

1:06:46 So again, you can screen this film at your church right now.

1:06:49 You can host a screening of this film at your church right now by going to the1916project.com.

1:06:55 You can preorder the books or order them at the1916project.com or at Amazon.

1:07:00 And we think that if this goes viral, brother, this could actually have an impact on November,

1:07:06 actually.

1:07:08 And if you've seen the, you've seen the film, Kyle, you know that if this went viral, particularly

1:07:12 in black America, particularly in black America, and they learned what Planned Parenthood's

1:07:18 plan has always been for them, the Democrats might not be able to win elections anymore.

1:07:23 That's how powerful this film and book is, Kyle.

1:07:26 Everyone knows that the Democrats can't win elections without the black vote.

1:07:29 We all know that.

1:07:32 And so if this went viral in the communities that have been targeted by Sanger and her

1:07:37 friends and her organization, we could begin shifting things culturally and electorally

1:07:42 really quickly.

1:07:43 It is the most profound, unique project you will ever watch or read on the pro life topic.

1:07:49 And of course, we bring together all the pieces on how it was, it was always about the sexual

1:07:52 revolution destroying the family redefining marriage, confusing people on gender.

1:07:57 It was a part of the same project the entire time.

1:07:59 So that's, that's the call to action, brother.

1:08:01 We appreciate you.

1:08:02 I appreciate your voice and your boldness.

1:08:04 And thanks for being a leader to men.

1:08:07 Thank you so much.

1:08:08 The last word that I'll throw in there is if certain people groups in this country realize

1:08:12 that they were put in the category of life unworthy of life.

1:08:15 If they understood that from the beginning, they were the people that were supposed to

1:08:19 be put into a group and that group was set for eradication.

1:08:22 I'm not sure they would so fervently support a particular political party, but Seth, I

1:08:26 appreciate what you're doing.

1:08:28 We'll keep helping you as far as as much as we can.

1:08:31 And we'll have you on here again, absolutely.

1:08:33 Thank you, brother.

1:08:35 Thank you.

1:08:36 There you go, guys.

1:08:37 I hope you enjoyed my time with Seth Gruber, but before we let you go, we are going to

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1:08:55 So you can go and check that out.

1:08:56 And he mentioned the last stand towards the end of the interview.

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