0:00
You focus on your physical and mental health, but when's the last time you checked in on
0:04
your financial health?
0:06
Many Americans feel financially anxious, yet many are doing better than they think.
0:10
At Fairwind's Credit Union, we give you a clear snapshot of your finances and a plan
0:15
to move forward with confidence.
0:17
With high-yield savings and free checking, we help your money work harder.
0:21
Visit fairwinds.org for more information, federally insured by NCUA.
0:28
Struggling with weight loss?
0:30
Prolon's five-day fasting mimicking diet is a clinically developed nutrition program
0:33
designed to promote fat loss while protecting lean body mass.
0:37
Developed at USC's Longevity Institute, it assists the body in entering a fasting-like
0:41
state that helps reset metabolism and target visceral fat.
0:45
In just five days, Prolon offers a science-backed approach to weight loss without extreme restriction
0:50
or guesswork.
0:51
Get 15% off plus a $40 bonus gift when you subscribe at prolonlife.com/now.
1:17
This is Undaunted Life of Man's Podcast.
1:20
I'm your host, Kyle Thompson.
1:22
Let's get into it.
1:23
Our guys, you've got a special guest on the podcast today.
1:25
His name is Ricky Schroeder, so he's an actor and filmmaker.
1:28
He's also the founder and president of Real American Heroes Foundation.
1:32
That's a nonprofit organization that exists to provide content that celebrates America's
1:35
true heroes.
1:36
We didn't actually end up getting to talk about that today because we talked about a
1:38
lot of other stuff, but he actually began his acting career at the age of nine.
1:42
He was in the movie The Champ with John Voight, and he earned a Golden Globe at the age of
1:47
nine years old, and that really kicked off a multifaceted career for him as an actor,
1:52
a producer, writer, and also a director.
1:55
He was in Silver Spoons, Lonesome Dub, Scrubs, 24, and then he actually transitioned into
2:00
directing, and he directed the video, the music video for Whiskey Lullaby by Brad Paisley
2:06
and Allison Kraus.
2:07
To any of you that are the Forging Table fans, you know that I think that Allison Kraus
2:10
is the best female vocalist of all time, but that's not what we're going to be talking
2:13
about today.
2:14
To any of you, it really didn't go any way like how I thought it did, but I still really
2:18
thought it was going to go, and it still went really, really well, because at the beginning,
2:22
I asked him about, you know, what was it like getting into acting and, you know, getting
2:25
in so young and being so successful, so young and all those different things.
2:30
And then right there from the beginning, he's like, yeah, I was planted in Hollywood as
2:34
a child, and I was going through basically a government run program that planted people
2:38
in certain places, specifically in Hollywood and other places inside of entertainment.
2:42
And it's just like, what, what, wait, what, and so I just started asking a bunch of questions
2:48
about that.
2:49
Like, what do you mean you were planted and he said he was raised and, you know, planted
2:53
with more like conservative truths and Americana truths and biblical truths and things like
2:58
that.
2:59
So we really, really dug into that.
3:00
That was an incredibly unique thing for us to talk about specifically on this show.
3:03
But then we talked about how he became a Christian and now that he's a, you know, conservative
3:08
Christian and an outspoken conservative Christian in Hollywood, like, how is he able to even
3:12
pull that off and still have a career.
3:15
Then we talked specifically about pornography in the pornography industry, what he's doing
3:18
to try to get the pornography industry, specifically the URLs from the dot coms to the triple Xs
3:23
because of what it's doing, you know, to children, but also to other people across society, the
3:27
things that we can work on there.
3:29
And we really went into a lot of subject matters in terms of this country and what does November
3:33
look like and what happens if Biden's elected versus Trump and, man, we really weaved in
3:37
and out on this particular thing.
3:38
But at the end, we had a couple of fun questions like, Hey, what's your favorite Western?
3:41
If you had to delete all the other Westerns, what's the one that you would stick around
3:44
with?
3:45
And so we got to kick that around a little bit.
3:46
But guys, I really, really enjoyed my time with him, buckle up without further ado.
3:50
Let's get into it.
3:52
Ricky Schroeder, welcome to Undaunted Life of a Man's podcast.
3:54
And I just got to tell you, I'm jealous of your background there where, yeah, what are
3:57
you doing?
3:58
Well, I'm here at my fiance's house in Atlanta, Georgia, helping take care of my future mother
4:04
in law.
4:05
Just had some surgery.
4:06
I just got back from Ecuador, went and visited my daughter down in South America.
4:10
I had a great visit for a week there.
4:13
And as soon as we're done here, I'm heading home to Colorado.
4:16
We got a farm.
4:17
We got to get water on and got grass to grow for the very good little part of Colorado.
4:22
Grand Junction Colorado, Western Colorado.
4:24
Okay.
4:25
Yeah, very, very good.
4:26
I spent quite a bit of time out there hunting and I got a bunch of buddies that go out there
4:29
hunting basically every year.
4:30
But we were talking about a lot of cool stuff off air, but we probably need to just cover
4:35
like the boring stuff, you know, like your career and what you're known for and you know,
4:38
how to make your name and all that.
4:39
So let's start there and then we'll back into some, some cooler stuff.
4:43
And so I say that's somewhat tongue in cheek.
4:45
We do need to talk about something that's fairly unique about you, Ricky.
4:48
And it's that you started a very unique career at a very unique age.
4:52
So you became an actor at the age of nine years old.
4:55
And then the cool thing about that is you didn't just become an actor and do, you know,
4:59
like serial commercials, you were in a major motion picture with John Voigt called the
5:02
champ and you actually want a Golden Globe for that.
5:05
And so there a lot's been made about you being the youngest Golden Globe winner.
5:08
And so like, I guess in a nutshell, give us whatever details you want.
5:12
But how in the world does a nine year old get into the acting biz and then how in the
5:15
world could you be so good out of the gate to where you actually get an award for your
5:19
trouble?
5:20
Well, that's a great question.
5:22
So let me, let me go back to the beginning.
5:23
I was, I started training in, to be like in front of the camera when I was about five
5:28
years old.
5:29
My, I'm from New York and my, my dad worked there at IBM and he said that he had some,
5:37
some other coworkers at IBM that their kids were getting into modeling and commercial
5:42
work.
5:43
And so I got an agent, my first agent when I was five and I got booked all the time.
5:49
I would go from Staten Island, New York into the city and do photo shoots for the catalogs
5:53
like Sears and JCPenney's and Toys RS.
5:57
And so I did, you know, hundreds and hundreds of kind of print modeling work in the fifth
6:03
when I was five, six years old and commercials.
6:06
I did dozens of commercials.
6:08
And then when I was seven, they brought me a movie called Jaws Two and I was cast as
6:14
Roy Shider's son and it was a really bad script.
6:18
It's the one where the, the shark bites the cable and gets electrocuted.
6:22
Right.
6:23
They went way through production of Jaws Two, they fired the director and they rewrote
6:27
the script and recast the movie.
6:29
And so I went out with the old cast.
6:32
So then they gave me another movie when I was seven called The Champ and I went and made
6:38
that movie in California and Florida with John Voigt when I was seven years old.
6:43
But there was two years before that where I was sort of really trained.
6:48
I remember my parents told me in one year when I was five, I had 200 jobs in one year.
6:55
So I would, I would had, that's a lot of training for a five year old boy.
7:00
They want to teach you how to stand on the mark, how to walk in, how to follow directions,
7:05
how to say what they want, how to smile or be sad when they want you to.
7:10
So there was a lot of sort of programming early about how to accomplish the goals that
7:16
they had for me.
7:18
And then when I was seven, like I said, the champ came and then my whole life changed,
7:23
my whole family's life changed, you know, everything changed.
7:27
Yeah.
7:28
And I think it's, it's interesting, Ricky, I appreciate you giving that level of detail.
7:32
Another thing that we hear that's kind of a common refrain is that there are child actors
7:38
and child stars that then their lives just completely fall apart.
7:42
It's like they don't have careers as adults because they were famous so early and we've
7:48
seen so many examples of that and then you even get into people that were maybe popular
7:52
on Disney channel and then later in life, it's just they can't even function, right?
7:55
They can't, they can't have kids.
7:56
They can't have businesses, nothing like that.
7:57
And so for you, I guess what kind of helped keep you on, on a pathway to where you were
8:03
still able to create a career and maintain a career as an adult?
8:07
Well I was on a mission, you see, I was placed on a mission and I'm just fulfilling that
8:11
mission today, you know, so all of that stuff was sort of, it's definitely a mission that
8:18
I was put on, you know, I don't know how to explain except I'll just tell you about it.
8:22
But it was a counter programming mission.
8:25
So Ronald Reagan had a program to, he saw how the media was so influential over the masses
8:33
and they decided to have counter programming assets and so they were developing assets.
8:40
They would place into Hollywood and then, you know, one day they could reignite them
8:46
if they needed them, I guess, or spark them.
8:50
And so I was sort of a seed planted in Hollywood and then in November 2020, they brought me
8:56
Hunter Biden's laptop, this man.
8:58
And you know, I'd only met him one time before, ten years earlier, I'd met him in a random
9:05
encounter and then he came to my house ten years later with Hunter Biden's laptop.
9:09
And so when that happened, I started getting sort of memories triggered about the program
9:17
that I was involved with and that there was other kids involved with.
9:21
And it was some sort of program based around tennis at a place called St. Joseph's by the
9:27
Sea in Staten Island, New York.
9:30
And so, you know, the program was the Academy, was tennis Academy where they were grooming
9:35
us to play tennis.
9:36
And they would then take us into classrooms one at a time with headphones and do other
9:41
things with us.
9:44
So I would sit across from an instructor as a child every Saturday from 9 to 12, I would
9:52
go play tennis.
9:53
I grew up on the courts.
9:54
But there was a time during that where I would be taken alone into a classroom and, you
10:01
know, I'm not quite sure what they were programming us with.
10:05
But I believe it was counter programming because I got to meet Reagan several times with my
10:10
father.
10:11
I'm not sure why.
10:13
So that's hence why I believe it was his program.
10:17
And so there's more that meets the eye to this Hollywood stuff.
10:22
You know, some of it is just people out there with amazing talent that are making it.
10:27
Others are placed there and built and made.
10:30
And so I was one of the made assets.
10:35
So, so Ricky, as you're describing that, I remember hearing people talk about different
10:41
plants that are in Hollywood or that are in music or in things like that.
10:45
But they're coming from these, you know, these weird accounts on Twitter or on Instagram
10:50
and it's always got this dramatic music in the background.
10:53
And so it seems too fanciful and a little bit like, you know, it's immediately you kind
10:57
of even in your brain, re-categorize it as kind of conspiracy theory stuff.
11:01
But tell me a little bit more about that, so you're thinking that there's like a government
11:06
agent.
11:07
My mother told me that there were other kids in the program.
11:12
The last words she got to speak to me before I can't speak with her anymore was that Rick
11:17
tell Ricky that there was other kids in the program.
11:19
It wasn't just him.
11:21
And so I remember some other kids that were in this program.
11:26
And so I'm not sure what the program was, I think it was, like I said, it was designed
11:32
to place assets in Hollywood.
11:34
And I was just to see that there was many seeds I think they planted as well.
11:39
Some of them with the conservative programming agenda, some of them with the liberal mindset,
11:45
most with the liberal mindset agenda.
11:48
And so, you know, the CIA, they use the media to manipulate the masses.
11:56
We are simple primate, okay, the bottom line is we haven't been designed our minds to have
12:02
this much stimulation, this much input, you know, when electricity came, the advancements
12:10
in humankind were enormous, very fast and rapid.
12:15
And this tool, the radio especially to music is a powerful tool for programming and socially
12:22
engineering the masses.
12:24
So the CIA of course has a hand in that.
12:27
And so they totally they want to they want to have an influence there.
12:31
And so I believe and so with that, go ahead, I believe that that's that is what I was I
12:40
was involved with unknowingly for a long time.
12:45
But but when they brought 100 Biden's laptop to me, it triggered these memories and they
12:50
were validated by one other person who also was in that room.
12:55
My sister, my sister was in that room.
12:59
Was your sister part of the program?
13:01
I think they kicked her out, but they tried her, they tried her out.
13:05
And so did anybody, did anybody of the other kids that you remember from the program, do
13:09
you remember them going into any type of entertainment or media or any of those types of entities?
13:15
I don't know.
13:16
They kept us pretty separate, but but I saw them coming and going.
13:23
Okay.
13:24
And so so with that in mind, help me understand a little bit more about, okay, so do you even
13:29
know why they bring you 100 Biden's laptop?
13:31
Because I don't know if you know this, Ricky, but I have it on good authority and a bunch
13:34
of guys that used to be in the CIA, they told me that that was Russian disinformation until
13:38
it wasn't until it was like, obviously true that that was something that they were trying
13:42
to hide to make sure that Biden could win in 2020.
13:44
But like, why, like, why you, why then, why, why did they bring this material?
13:49
Yeah, those are all the questions, same questions I had.
13:52
But when they brought it, when he brought it to me, I started having memories about this
13:59
man and I in a white room, and I had headphones on and there was a tape recorder in front
14:03
of us.
14:04
So somebody my father played tennis with, and my sister remembered his name.
14:10
His name was John Talvy, T-O-L-V-E, and he, he, he's dead, but he was a NYPD detective
14:20
for 35 years as his day job.
14:23
But he was one of the men that I remember involved in the program.
14:29
But my parents claim they have no idea why he would have done that, why he would have
14:34
put headphones on us in a room privately.
14:37
So I feel like there's some secrets that mom and dad just can't talk about.
14:42
And I understand that, and they're probably scared of whoever's, whoever's, whoever they
14:49
need to be, but they don't need to be afraid.
14:52
And if they do have any information, I wish they would just come forth and let us, let
14:57
us know what this program was and not be afraid of them.
15:01
But I feel like that's what's happened is mom and dad had been intimidated not to tell
15:04
me about what they did with me.
15:10
So Ricky, is this a program that you think is still in place?
15:13
I don't imagine it has ever stopped.
15:15
I just imagine it got much, much more advanced.
15:18
I'm an old, I'm an old model.
15:21
Okay.
15:22
And so how do you think that translated for you specifically because you could kind of
15:27
see, okay, you, you get this big role with a big actor at the time, John Voigt, and you
15:31
know, you get this golden globe and all those things.
15:33
They gave me the role.
15:34
They gave me the role.
15:35
Yeah.
15:36
They gave you the role.
15:37
But then how do you feel like this program may have translated into your career thereafter
15:43
and even on into today?
15:45
Well they gave me roles like Medal of Honor recipient, Major Whittlesley, a World War
15:52
One major that I played in the Lost Battalion.
15:55
So they just hand me that role, you know, they gave me a role.
16:00
I played Calvin Graham, a 12 year old, a veteran in World War Two who was a hurt in the Navy.
16:08
He was on a destroyer.
16:09
So they gave me certain roles, you know, because it fit the template which I was designed programming.
16:16
I was designed to help push.
16:19
So they gave me roles throughout my career that were kind of Americana roles, cowboy
16:23
roles, a lonesome dove, you know, they gave me those opportunities because that's what
16:30
I was, I was built to push is the, that kind of messaging.
16:37
Okay, let me, let me actually go back to something and you may have already elucidated it as
16:42
much as you can.
16:44
But you said whenever you got the Joe Biden laptop or the Hunter Biden laptop that was
16:48
put in front of you that it triggered some memories.
16:52
Have you had any other experiences, Ricky, throughout your life where and we know how
16:55
memories work, it can be a song, it can be a taste or a smell or something that hits your
16:59
senses that triggers something from a time, you know, past or maybe it's even something
17:04
in a dream.
17:05
Have you had any other things that have happened like what happened whenever they brought you
17:09
the laptop?
17:10
No, that was the first time I had the memories of the childhood programming was when I got
17:15
that November in November of 2020 when he brought me the laptop is the first time I remembered
17:21
any of this.
17:24
And then it was like I said, validated by one other person who was in that room, my sister.
17:29
And so I guess how curious are you, Ricky, to really get to the bottom of this because
17:36
I'm sure there are, there are things that you could potentially do to try to uncover
17:40
more of this to maybe even share more memories, or is this just something that, hey, it happened,
17:44
you know, I'm curious, but I'm not going to like, no, no, no, no, it's the biggest question
17:50
of my life inside is what was this program and how it did it, you know, who else was involved
17:58
and how did it impact me.
18:01
And but I feel, I don't feel like it was a, because it was counter programming, the messaging
18:07
and the programming, I believe that there was, it was a, it was that there was also biblical
18:12
programming.
18:13
There was, you know, the forefathers, like as a child, like the bedspread on my, my bed
18:18
was the George Washington crossing the river, the Revolutionary War, my room was decorated
18:24
like Revolutionary War motif.
18:26
If you go to the St. Joseph's by the C high school website today and look at their rec room,
18:32
you'll see all the founding fathers, Revolutionary War art in their, in their student room was
18:38
the same stuff on my walls as a child growing up.
18:42
So whatever programming was, they were giving me was based in constitutional principles.
18:49
So I wasn't being given some sort of rant of Marxist ideology.
18:54
I was being given founding fathers principles that made this country great.
18:59
And so the programming was, was centered around that.
19:03
So Ricky, let's actually dig a little bit more into that because one of the things I was
19:06
obviously going to ask you about was being an outspoken, if you can call it that conservative,
19:12
Republican and Hollywood, because you can essentially count those on, on your two hands,
19:16
the numbers of people that you know that would even come out and say that they were voting
19:20
for a Republican candidate.
19:22
Do you feel like that you were compelled to believe in more conservative, at least tangentially
19:30
Judeo Christian values, as opposed to the leftist Marxist thing?
19:34
Because it seems like most of Hollywood defaults to leftism, Marxism, socialism, communism.
19:40
Do you feel like that's a virtue of how you actually feel or what you were programmed
19:44
to think as a child?
19:46
Well, you can train a child to be anything you want them to be.
19:50
You can make a boy think he's a girl, a girl think they're a boy.
19:54
Right.
19:55
So we are oxy.
19:56
We're all a product of our programming and conditioning.
19:59
And so that includes our home environment, things we watch through this magic device,
20:04
the stranger, the things we listen to, the people around us, we're all conditioned.
20:10
And so, so no, I believe that I'm a product of the conditioning that I was exposed to,
20:17
whether that be in my family's, my personal family or in this program.
20:22
Okay, so let's talk about where you're at right now in 2024, when you think that way,
20:31
because okay, I've grown up in Oklahoma.
20:33
And so in Oklahoma, everyone's like at least Christian adjacent or Republican adjacent,
20:38
because why, you know, maybe grandpa, you know, went to church and maybe our parents
20:42
listened to country music.
20:43
And so, you know, we kind of fall into those categories very easily.
20:47
But I know a lot of people that have rejected their programming or their values that came
20:52
from their family of origin.
20:54
And now as adults, they're way more left leaning.
20:56
They actually believe a little girl can become a little boy and all these different things.
20:59
As you sit here today, Ricky, do you in your heart of hearts believe in capital C conservatism
21:05
and the ideas they're in?
21:09
You know, I believe it's closest to what Jesus would want.
21:11
You know, as far as, you know, Jesus, I got saved, right?
21:16
Because I was, I had to turn my life over to Jesus because I was in a bad way.
21:22
And I couldn't find my way out.
21:24
And the only, the only way out was Jesus, like just literally giving all my fear and
21:28
my shame and my anguish and anxiety and suffering and all the things I was feeling as a human,
21:34
I had to give away before I could like find some peace.
21:38
And so what was your question again?
21:42
Well, I was just basically asking about, because some people are, they have stuff, they have
21:51
values shoved down their throat as a child.
21:53
And then they grow up to reject those values, maybe because they were shoved down their
21:57
throat or maybe because they actually don't really truly believe in it.
22:01
And so I was asking, essentially, do you believe in those, those capital C conservative values
22:05
or do you feel like it's just a downstream consequence of your childhood?
22:09
Goodness.
22:10
I mean, I think there's, I think everybody has to get saved.
22:14
Every person, wherever you grow up and whatever family you have to grow up, whatever experience
22:20
you have, it's up to each of us to get to know Jesus or not or to reject Him or to accept
22:25
Him.
22:26
And it doesn't matter, you know, where you come from, it's an individual battle and the
22:31
battles in the mind, the battles in the heart.
22:34
And so, you know, I resisted Jesus, I resisted spirituality for a long time, but I always
22:41
knew it was there and it is there, brother, I'm telling you, our souls are eternal, okay?
22:47
There's no doubt in my mind.
22:49
Our souls will go on to our home when we're done with this place.
22:56
Everything on earth has to die, right?
22:58
And so that by definition means our soul is alien to earth.
23:02
We are not from here.
23:03
We come from somewhere else and we return somewhere else.
23:08
And so I find great comfort and knowing that this is a temporary world.
23:14
This is a real world and it can hurt and stuff, but it's just temporary.
23:22
And I just wish, you know, I found that piece earlier in my life, I'm 54 years old.
23:27
And I had a lot of struggles before I found the forgiveness that Christ offered me.
23:34
And so it was literally just being humble enough to hit my knees and say, "I'm a sinner,
23:38
and I give it to you, and I don't want to sin anymore," and then asking for that relationship.
23:47
And so I'm just fulfilling the mission that I was put on as a child.
23:54
And so my mission was to kind of go into Hollywood.
23:58
My father's mission was to put me into Hollywood.
24:01
You know, as a kid growing up, he'd say to me, "One day, Ricky, you're going to talk
24:06
about what happened to you in Hollywood, and I just want you to be fair, be fair to your
24:12
mother and I."
24:16
And so anyways, that was the mission.
24:18
The mission was to go in there, see it, live it, experience it, come out, and talk about
24:25
it, that I'm just fulfilling the mission.
24:29
Well, Ricky, I want to dig in a little bit more to the road that brought you to Christ,
24:36
because it's a varied road.
24:37
There's not like a single story for how people come to Christ.
24:42
And so for you, you kind of alluded to that you had maybe come to the end of your rope
24:47
a little bit, that you had tried other things and had other options, but that you found
24:51
yourself to the cross of Christ.
24:53
How'd you end up there?
24:54
Well, I always knew there was a spirit world.
24:58
So as a child, I always knew, and I needed it as a child.
25:04
I wasn't taught about Christ.
25:06
My mother taught me to pray, but it wasn't in Jesus' name or anything, it was just praying
25:12
to God.
25:14
Well, I knew I was in trouble in Hollywood when I was a kid.
25:17
I've told other people this story, I'll tell you.
25:20
So I went over Charlie Sheen's house when I was about 13 years old, and my publicist
25:27
was the same as his, and somebody, I'm not sure, but somebody, there was a bunch of guys
25:33
around, he had lots of friends over, popped a VHS tape in the player and there was a man
25:42
on a slab and a cult around him with hip hoods and they were chanting and they took a knife
25:47
and they cut him open down the side, and they drained his blood into a big bowl and took
25:53
his organs out, and then they took the blood on the video, and then the girls took their
25:58
clothes off on the video, and they had an orgy in this man's blood, this dead man's blood.
26:05
And I had about 13 years old, I couldn't drive.
26:09
And so they gave me the cassette to take home.
26:13
And I remember that night, my dad and I said, "Dad, you have to watch this."
26:18
So we went into his closet, we had a VHS player, and we put it in there, and we watched it,
26:25
and he's like, "Give it back to whoever gave it to you, and don't ever watch it again."
26:32
And so I did that.
26:34
But he knew who gave it to me, because he knew who drove me there, he was driving me
26:39
around, this guy Jeff Ballard, and so he knew who gave it to me, he knew where it came from.
26:45
But anyway, we didn't do anything with the authorities, we never called the authorities.
26:52
And so I realized then, when I was like 13, that I might be around people that are dangerous.
26:58
And so, can you hear that rain?
27:02
Yeah, I can hear that rain, it's fine, I think everybody will enjoy the sounds of nature.
27:06
Yeah, you can't go with your sword.
27:08
Yeah, so I knew I was around dangerous people after that video.
27:14
And so I leaned a lot on my father in heaven, my spiritual protector, my angels as a child,
27:24
because I was around dangerous people, and I couldn't necessarily count on my parents
27:32
to protect me.
27:35
And so Ricky, with what you're doing now, I guess we could even back into a discussion
27:41
about the council on pornography reform that you're doing, and it seems like you're doing
27:49
things now that are, that you're trying to protect children from extreme imagery, specifically
27:57
that of violent imagery and violent pornographic imagery.
28:00
Do you feel like that?
28:02
It seems like there's a direct correlation between what you and experience and what you're
28:05
trying to work against now, no?
28:08
Absolutely.
28:09
You know, that was super stimuli for me.
28:12
That's when the mind sees or experience something that you'll never forget.
28:16
And so, but yeah, I mean, I was exposed to pornography.
28:20
I was nine years old the first time, and you know, those are those are images that you
28:26
don't forget, and they're dangerous to the young, forming mind.
28:32
You know, male primates like us, we were never designed to watch each other have intercourse.
28:38
We were never designed to watch each other have sex.
28:41
So when you look at the pornography industry, it's kind of like there's, I think there's
28:45
a many agendas, but one of them is a homosexual agenda, because as a young male, while you
28:51
sit and watch pornography, you know, at first you look at the girl only, but then, you know,
28:56
you start to develop perhaps an opinion about what the male in the video looks like.
29:02
And it was never sort of natural for us to watch each other have sex and more develop
29:08
opinions about what each other look like having sex.
29:11
And so I think there's a homosexual kind of mindset that develops in some males, because
29:17
they see what they like or they want to become, and they sort of then get this idol, you know,
29:22
they want to become like that guy or that guy.
29:24
And I think that's sort of the beginning seeds of a homosexual agenda.
29:29
And so yeah, so I was around a lot of homosexuals my whole life, and you know, I've seen most
29:37
of them were just absolutely fine to me, but some of them are predators.
29:42
Some of them actually are they hunt, you know, young souls, and they look for opportunities
29:47
to destroy lives.
29:49
And so anyway, I've seen a lot of that kind of stuff as a child.
29:54
And I think that single best thing I can do to fight and help this culture that seems
30:01
like it's going down the drain is the tackle pornography.
30:05
And so the biggest thing we want is move pornography back in the triple X URL.
30:10
And if it's in the triple X URL and get it out of dot com, it can be more easily managed
30:17
and controlled so that the young people who are just getting their arousal templates established,
30:23
you know, as young people were, we're just learning what this our bodies are doing and
30:28
what sex is and what these feelings are.
30:31
And so we don't want porn producers developing our sexual desires and appetites and creating,
30:42
you know, our lives.
30:44
And that's what I think happens a lot is young men is when they watch porn and sex is such
30:48
a big part of the human experience that we sort of start identifying is what we see on
30:53
the programming.
30:55
So anyway, we want we want porn out of it.
30:57
We want porn back in the triple X URL.
30:59
And the other thing we want is an on off switch.
31:02
So we want the Jesus bubble, I call it.
31:06
And that is a bubble around your house bubble around your family bubble around your mind
31:11
if you so choose.
31:13
And that means that they can't push this filth into your phone into your house or into your
31:18
mind unless you allow it.
31:20
Right now, they're delivering that stuff every day to your phone like a drug dealer delivers
31:26
if the drug dealer delivered drugs to your front door every day and you had a habit and
31:31
you had to choose whether or not to open the door to go out and buy groceries, but you
31:34
had to step over the drugs, you'd fail every one of us would fail if there was that drug
31:38
of choice there.
31:40
And you were an addict, okay, pornography is an addiction.
31:44
They push it to your phone, they push it to your house and they never had the rights
31:48
to do it using the First Amendment.
31:50
The First Amendment was freedom of speech, political speech, speak against your government
31:56
if you want to resist them and fight them.
31:59
But they defined it in the 1950s.
32:01
I think it was or 70s is freedom of expression and freedom of expression included photographs
32:06
and videos now, but the First Amendment was written before electricity before a camera.
32:13
And so it's been perverted.
32:16
This was never free speech perversion, you know, this is against English common law.
32:21
The 13 colonies were founded on English common law.
32:24
If you walk down the street and did something inappropriate, that was against English common
32:28
law.
32:32
We as a nation are going to get back to English common law.
32:36
It's a matter of time.
32:38
We're going to get back to a civil society.
32:41
And in my opinion, it's what is what is coming, but it's going to be a process getting there.
32:49
Hey guys, real quick.
32:51
If you're anything like me, you are constantly on the lookout for high quality products that
32:54
are actually made here in America by American hands.
32:57
The problem is that a lot of American companies have outsourced their labor overseas.
33:02
So it's an American company, but it's supporting people that don't live here.
33:05
So I've always went to partner with an American company that prioritizes America, American
33:10
workers and making all of their materials here in this country.
33:13
That's why I want to remind you that we are partnered with origin.
33:17
Origin is an apparel company based in Maine, and they are focused on getting as much manufacturing
33:22
back to the United States as they can possibly do.
33:25
What do they make?
33:26
They make the best jujitsu geese on the planet.
33:28
And these are the only jujitsu geese that are made completely in America.
33:32
They also make jeans.
33:33
Yes, they're stretchy and awesome.
33:35
They also make amazing hunting gear.
33:36
And I know you guys love your kuyu and your sika, but those companies use overseas labor
33:41
and they don't do that to help you guys out.
33:43
They do that to increase their profit margins.
33:45
Origin also makes boots and work boots.
33:47
And yes, that does include still toe boots.
33:49
And in the fall of last year, they launched a line of everyday clothing, their Versa pants
33:53
are their everyday pants.
33:54
And they are just especially phenomenal.
33:56
They also make other outdoor clothes and workout clothes and they're launching new apparel
33:59
stuff all the time.
34:01
If you haven't already, you need to check them out and support a company that supports America
34:06
and America's workers.
34:07
Try origin out today by going to www.originusa.com.
34:12
That's originusa.com.
34:14
Use the promo code undaunted to get 10% off of your order.
34:17
Again, that's originusa.com promo code undaunted to get 10% off of your order.
34:24
Well, Ricky, let's talk about the process of how you would even go about getting porn
34:29
back on the triple X URL, because I've said before, I really can't understand why pornography
34:36
is legal.
34:37
Again, I don't think it really goes into the First Amendment and the freedom of expression
34:40
because of the deleterious effects it could have specifically on children because it teaches
34:45
them and gives them scripts of how they are to act.
34:47
So a boy thinks that unless he's violently penetrating the anus of a woman, then he
34:52
can't please her.
34:54
And then a girl sees the woman responding to that stimuli in a way that would seem like
34:58
she's pleased by this encounter, and then she thinks if I'm not being violently penetrated
35:03
in the anus and enjoying it, then something's wrong with me.
35:06
So how do we go about actually tangibly doing that?
35:09
Because I'm fine to scream at the sky for a little bit, but what are the ways we can
35:14
actually turn the ship around?
35:16
Well, Congressman Westerman, we had a meeting with him a few weeks ago, and we just had
35:21
another follow-up meeting yesterday.
35:23
And so there's something called the Legislative Counsel Office, and each Congress person gets
35:28
resources to develop bills.
35:30
Well, yesterday, we got the great news that Congressman Westerman and another Congressman
35:36
he's working with are going to put resources towards getting this bill written.
35:40
And I mean now, we're starting the process today of getting this bill written.
35:45
There's an international organization called ICANN.
35:48
ICANN is the governing, if you go onto our council on pornreform.org website, you'll
35:54
see information there, white papers that we have produced, products that we've put out.
36:02
Well, ICANN is an international organization that determines the URLs you get to use around
36:09
the world.
36:10
So it's a globalist Marxist agenda.
36:12
We don't even control the URL pipelines.
36:15
So even though right now .xxxurl exists, there's only one pornography site on the .xxxurl.
36:25
And so we're going to work with Congressman Westerman and the other Congressman, I forget
36:29
I haven't been introduced yet, to get a bill written.
36:32
And it's going to be simple and straightforward.
36:34
And that is all adult content goes in the triple x URL, and the .com is a retail platform.
36:41
Once that happens, I hope there's a company like, the next step, step two, is giving Americans
36:51
the Jesus bubble and the choice to turn off pornography to our homes and our phones and
36:56
our minds.
36:57
And so there's two ways you can do that.
36:59
You can get a second bill demanding the telecommunications industry and company.
37:03
Give us the choice for the Jesus on/off switch.
37:08
Or you'd use private enterprise and we go like to Patriot mobile or Mint Mobile or one
37:14
of these companies and they develop the on/off switch for their consumers, for their people
37:21
that use their services.
37:23
And then you'll see millions of people flood to that technology.
37:28
And then the marketplace will have to compete and AT&T and Verizon will have to create this
37:32
adult content off switch as well.
37:35
But the first step is getting it in one single pipeline and that's the triple x URL.
37:41
And then the second step is creating the switch.
37:45
And some people will say to me, "Well, the technology is not there yet.
37:49
Well, then we'll design the technology.
37:51
You should never have released this filth into our world without being able to control
37:55
it and let little kids be damaged by it."
37:59
And they need help accountable the people involved for allowing this.
38:04
I think there should be class action lawsuits like Tobacco, get some law firms going, get
38:11
all these victims of pornography since they're nine years old signed up and go after the distributors
38:17
of it, not the producers of it.
38:21
The big companies AT&T and Verizon go after them and get settlements and get the counseling
38:26
you need, get the help you need, let them pay for it.
38:30
Rick, I think you're absolutely right because we never hear porn talked about in the way
38:33
that you're talking about it now.
38:35
But we'll hear that about fentanyl, we'll be up in arms about China sending the parts
38:41
to make the fentanyl and then the cartels in Mexico putting it together and then getting
38:45
it across the border and getting it into the bodies of Americans.
38:49
And it's like, "Hey, we're mad at the drug dealers, we're mad at the people that are
38:53
dealing death, but we're even more mad at the people that are producing the death on
38:56
the front end, the top of the funnel people, not the people that are there at the bottom.
39:01
So we're criminalized the people that are buying it and using it, which again, we should
39:04
have criminalized drugs, I'm all for that, but we don't ever talk about pornography in
39:07
that way because there's so much money.
39:10
There's so much money in it, Ricky.
39:12
And the thing is, is like, we wouldn't do this and we wouldn't turn a blind eye to this
39:16
in any other form or fashion.
39:18
And it's even true in the church, Ricky.
39:20
I could ask all the time, "Hey, why don't pastors talk about porn more often?"
39:23
I'm like, probably because they're using it, they're probably using the porn and jerking
39:27
off.
39:28
And that's why they don't want to talk about it because they want to pick your varsity
39:32
sin or some other person's varsity sin to talk about as opposed to one that's related
39:36
to them entirely.
39:38
So I think part of it, Ricky, is just talking about it in the way that we're talking about
39:41
it now.
39:42
Yeah.
39:43
We're making a documentary we're excited about called erotic erosion.
39:47
And we're looking at the decline of our standards, values where we're at.
39:50
How did this happen since internet pornography came?
39:54
And so we're talking to all sorts of interesting people like Dr. Ayman from the brain clinic,
39:58
who's an expert on arousal.
40:02
And basically what's going on is that oxytocin, the love hormone, serotonin, dopamine, when
40:08
you masturbate, is dumped into the brain.
40:13
And it's an addiction, it's a very powerful force.
40:18
And it makes the young male or female want to go back for more.
40:22
And so we're bonding with electronics, and I like to say this about women.
40:25
They bond with vibrators.
40:28
If you're getting an oxytocin dump from a vibrator as a lady or serotonin release, you're really,
40:37
that's what's giving you the pleasure.
40:38
It's that 110 power.
40:40
It's not necessarily the person you're with or the intimacy.
40:44
And so I think that's kind of like pornography for women is these vibrators.
40:50
And so we're a simple primate.
40:54
And so when these hormones get released into our brains, it's powerful and it's conditioned
40:59
us and it becomes habit forming.
41:03
And so in Colorado, just so you know, we just went with Custer County, Colorado a few months
41:08
ago and they passed a resolution making it illegal for pornography to be in any way provided
41:14
for a person under 18 years old.
41:18
And there's going to be a state law now based on this county's, this county is going to
41:23
be like a dry county for 18 years.
41:26
So no alcohol, no pornography for and so what we're trying to do is build the county movement
41:30
and take it to the county level because if the counties pass this resolution and the
41:35
county commissioners have a lot of authority, it's the lowest form of government.
41:38
So any county anywhere in the United States can vote on this and pass a similar resolution
41:44
that Custer County passed, which is making the county a dry county for under 18 for pornography
41:51
with stiff penalties that are going to come.
41:54
So there's being a state law written now that there's jail time involved.
41:59
And so that is going to force behavior, culture change.
42:05
And that's what we need is we need real actions that force conditioning on the masses.
42:12
So Ricky, let's actually talk about that a little bit more about how we change the way
42:15
people view it because it's one thing to have laws against something.
42:18
We have laws against a lot of things that people still do.
42:21
We also have their schools that have phone free schools and it's like magic kids still
42:28
find a way to have their phone in school and to text people throughout the day and do all
42:31
these different things.
42:32
And so it's one thing to regulate against something, to build laws against something,
42:36
to build punishments into a system.
42:38
The law is a teacher.
42:39
And so, you know, Roe v. Wade, when it was enforced, people based their morality on well,
42:45
it's legal.
42:46
So I should be able to do it, right?
42:47
But what else outside of that in kind of the capital immorality world, can we do as parents,
42:53
as Christians, as Christ followers to help lead our children and ourselves away from
43:00
something like this that is just so dark and satanic?
43:03
Well, we have to make it socially unacceptable.
43:07
And we have to make the people that engage in the fur, like the furry community, you know,
43:14
the furries are based in bestiality.
43:18
They're not cute little, they're not cute little mascots running around, you know?
43:23
I did some investigation into the furries.
43:26
And it's a, it's a kind of, you know, perverted group.
43:32
But you grandma and grandpa are all laughing at, oh, isn't that cute?
43:36
So we got to educate grandma and grandpa that this is based in Satanism and bestiality and
43:43
sex with animals.
43:45
This is not some sort of like cute, harmless little furry con.
43:49
There's something much deeper and darker behind it.
43:51
So we got to talk the truth, we got to speak the truth about it.
43:55
They may not all be aware of those furries, what's going on with the many of them are.
44:00
So I guess you socially stigmatize those who engage in perverse behavior.
44:07
And it's a, it's, it's not pleasant to do.
44:11
It's not a fun thing to do to challenge people's behaviors.
44:16
But, but you do, you know, the last thing I want to talk about is pride, mom.
44:21
You know what I mean?
44:22
It's like, but I'll talk about it because they're pushing a homosexual agenda against
44:31
the biblical principles.
44:33
And you know, if you don't speak up against it, then I guess you're complacent to it.
44:38
You just want to go along with it.
44:40
You know, and that's, that's what we need as, as a culture is to be able to speak our minds,
44:46
you know, honestly, but kindly, you know, I can be pretty brutal sometimes and I have
44:53
to learn to be softer too.
44:56
But we still got to speak the truth.
44:59
We can't shut up.
45:00
We can't be quiet.
45:01
We have to speak the truth.
45:02
Ricky, let me actually ask you, because you and I are on the same page, we, we can have
45:06
a, a tendency to be a little bit too harsh to go a little bit too hard, no, anyone that's
45:10
listened to the show for long enough kind of knows that to be true.
45:14
But let me, let me ask you, I do feel like there is a role for righteous ridicule in,
45:20
in a situation like this.
45:21
So, so let's take something that has become, you know, anathema to polite society and
45:25
that's smoking cigarettes.
45:27
And so used to, even when I was in college, we would have to walk through when I was going
45:31
to the liberal arts building, I had to walk through these enormous plumes of smoke because
45:35
there were dozens of people outside smoking a cigarette before they went into class, then
45:39
it became a smoke-free campus.
45:40
And then just the idea of somebody walking across campus smoking a cigarette is just like
45:44
gross.
45:45
It's like, wait, you smoke cigarettes?
45:46
Not only are you going to die, but you smell and you look terrible.
45:49
What's wrong with you?
45:50
So there's a little bit of ridicule that's positive.
45:52
Like if, if a buddy of yours gains 40 pounds, I think it is perfectly appropriate to ridicule
45:58
him in a loving way and say, look, brother, you're killing yourself, you're going to lead
46:02
to all your all-cause mortality has gone up with every pound that you've added.
46:06
This is a problem.
46:07
Like, let's, let's get you a rucksack.
46:09
Let's get you a gym membership.
46:10
Let's get you some new shoes.
46:11
Like, let's start, you know, peeling that weight off a little bit.
46:13
I feel like there should be healthy, righteous, but directed and pointed ridicule at the people
46:19
that are producing this content, spreading this content, and certainly the people we've
46:23
already talked about that are at the top of the funnel.
46:25
Well, I mean, what do you think about that?
46:27
Absolutely.
46:28
I mean, sometimes I just go up to strange, you got out with me people and be, how much
46:31
porn you watch today.
46:32
And these kids look at me, these young men, like, but just, just to start the dialogue,
46:38
you know, like it's, you know, no, you shouldn't be watching porn today.
46:41
Like, I'll just say that to a teenager and they'll be like, and, you know, maybe that's
46:46
a little weird, but to, to normalize the discussion that everybody's seeing porn, okay?
46:52
So let's just get that on the table.
46:54
So we all don't have to be like hiding, you know, in the shadows about it and table it
47:00
on the discussion, you know, let's put it on the table so we can discuss it, because when
47:03
you expose it, you talk about it, it seems like it gets better and you can heal it.
47:09
But there's so much shame around the topic.
47:13
So I think, yeah, being able to speak about it is important.
47:21
But yeah, it's a fill too.
47:23
It's a filth.
47:24
There's no doubt about it.
47:25
You know, seven out of 10 child abuse victims know their abusers, Kyle.
47:31
So strange, stranger danger is not the biggest problem.
47:36
It's almost eight out of two know their abusers.
47:39
So you know, a lot of people get fired up about stranger danger element and that's big.
47:45
Sure.
47:46
But, but almost eight out of 10 victims of child sexual abuse know their abusers.
47:52
And I believe that that's a different, you know, that this pornography is sort of feeding
47:58
that kind of home abuse in the home and abuse from friends and family.
48:03
100% 100%.
48:04
There's a buddy of mine that wrote a book years ago called how pornography harms his
48:09
name is Dr. John Fobert and he went into the brain science of what is happening when somebody
48:15
is experiencing pornography, when they're masturbating, using pornography, you know, the way their
48:20
mind will think about it and you said it, my first images of pornography are burned into
48:25
my brain.
48:26
Ricky.
48:27
I can't, I can't forget them.
48:28
Yeah.
48:29
Like even if I wanted to, perhaps God will, will give me grace and get those out of my
48:32
brain at some point, but I can remember those first playboys I saw or those, those first
48:36
images.
48:37
I remember the first video I saw pornography where I saw sex happen for the first time.
48:41
I remember all of that.
48:42
Me too.
48:43
Like the entire circumstance and it becomes this overwhelming thing.
48:47
But one thing that John Fobert talked about in his book, because he interviewed guys that
48:50
were like pedophiles that were in the community for a long time and then got busted with child
48:55
porn or were doing pedophilia themselves, almost to a person.
49:00
All these people had used porn as a masturbatory aid.
49:04
Most of them used it innocently.
49:05
If you could call it that by playboys and then it was penthouse and then it was hustler
49:09
and then it was videos and then it was smart films, then it was rape porn, then it was murder
49:15
porn, like all these different types of things.
49:17
And with a lot of these people, as we've all known at this point, you're initially just,
49:22
you know, masturbating, looking at two normal people having what you would call normal sex,
49:27
then that doesn't become exciting anymore.
49:29
You need hardcore, then you need BDSM, then you need rape porn, then you need I need this
49:35
girl to look a little younger.
49:36
Okay.
49:37
Well, she's 18, but she's got pigtails.
49:38
I kind of like that.
49:40
And then you end up getting to this point at the end of the rainbow where these guys
49:44
end up actually saying, okay, I can't even get it up behind my laptop anymore.
49:49
I have to go try this in real life.
49:51
And so yes, I think you're right in line with that whenever children are abused, whenever
49:55
women are abused, and it's abused by people that they know, we've got to know and boys
50:00
absolutely and boys, like these, these images and these, these videos that are going to
50:06
these people's brains, they are teaching them what they should act out in real life.
50:10
It's one of Satan's most effective tactics that he's used against not just Westerners,
50:16
but people all across the globe.
50:18
Yes, I believe it's a huge Satan tool.
50:21
And it's also part of the globalist Marxist agenda because they control the URLs.
50:25
I can the international group that controls that whole world.
50:32
So we're working on getting a law passed where we're going to push it back in the triple
50:36
X URL, man, and once it's there, it's as simple as your home.
50:41
You just have whatever your internet service provider is, you can block anything from the
50:46
triple X URL.
50:48
So it's really simple.
50:50
The second piece is the on off switch for our cell phones.
50:54
So the home is easy to fix because it's, it's all going to be if it's, if it's, but, but
50:59
the cell phone is going to be a little trickier and it's going to be a little more of a fight
51:01
because they make billions of dollars in data.
51:04
And so, but we want the choice, we demand the choice as Americans.
51:09
They have no right to unleash this into our families and into our homes until they could
51:14
control it.
51:15
Now they have the tech to control it.
51:18
When I went to Afghanistan on a project, there was no internet porn.
51:23
I remember searching it in Afghanistan.
51:24
A big red warning came up on my computer and it said, um, it said this is illegal in this
51:30
country.
51:31
Stop searching for it.
51:32
We know you looked.
51:33
Okay.
51:35
And so all the soldiers, you know, would pass around flash drives or hard drives porn.
51:39
But the technology exists to take it off the internet, take it off the cell.
51:44
If you choose as the American to have it off.
51:48
And so Americans love choice, Kyle.
51:50
We deserve this choice and we will get this choice and we're just going to keep pushing
51:56
until we, we compost that, that mission.
52:00
So we, we certainly get choice and I do want to transition just a little bit because I've
52:05
enjoyed talking about that, but we're sitting here.
52:08
This will be coming out in a few weeks after we're having this discussion, but we're right
52:11
in the middle of presidential, the presidential general election season.
52:16
We've got one debate behind us.
52:17
This actually happened yesterday.
52:19
There's the campaigns, the campaigns running, you have the law fair that Donald Trump's currently
52:24
having to try to traverse through, you know, the Democrats got, they got what they wanted.
52:28
They can call him a convicted felon and they can call everyone that votes for him.
52:31
Like, wait a minute, you're, you're supporting a convicted felon, but I've asked several
52:35
people about this, Ricky.
52:36
And so I want to ask you as well, no matter how you slice it, no matter how the election
52:41
turns out in November, no matter, you know, who is in control of the house, the Senate
52:45
or the White House, I think the country's going to burn to a degree.
52:48
I don't mean completely to the ground where we have to start over.
52:51
But if it's Trump winning, it's, it's Russia collusion.
52:56
It's January six, it's, we've been taken over by domestic terrorists.
52:59
It's going to be that type of a thing.
53:01
And then of course BLM and all the Marxist groups and Tifa and all that, they're just
53:06
going to start doing what they were doing during George Floyd summer.
53:10
No, no, because you know why, because we need a new policy and the new policy is if you
53:14
light fires, if you're an arsonist, you die.
53:19
So the government and the folks here in there, the local governments are going to have to
53:24
be serious because when they light the fires, that's a, that's a different kind of spiritual
53:30
attack.
53:31
It becomes a different thing.
53:33
People can protest all they want and peacefully, but what the people to light the fires, there
53:38
needs to be a policy.
53:39
You light fires and you risk other people's lives.
53:42
You're shot on site.
53:43
And I think if they have that policy, we won't see our cities burn.
53:49
But it's going to take radical strength to prevent them from acting like they did during
53:58
the summer of George Floyd.
53:59
Right.
54:00
I think that certainly if law enforcement and local municipalities actually took the
54:05
law seriously and their community seriously, they wouldn't allow for those things to happen.
54:09
I'm not exactly optimistic that they will do that this time around certainly.
54:14
But then you know, you have if Joe Biden wins, I remember Ricky, I was in downtown Austin,
54:19
the week of the 2020 election.
54:21
They were boarding up all the businesses and all the liberals down there are like, I wonder
54:24
why they're doing this.
54:25
I'm like, I'm not.
54:26
They're not doing it in case Biden wins.
54:28
They're doing in case Trump wins, but there's been so much anger that's been ginned up by
54:34
MAGA supporters, Republicans, people that just love Trump or people that just love America
54:39
so that if Biden wins, even though he's, you know, three quarters of a vegetable at this
54:43
point, that there might be people where like January six, again, I think has been completely
54:49
overblown.
54:50
It was ridiculous in a lot of ways, but I think it's been certainly overblown.
54:53
But I think there's going to be stuff like that that's going to be happening by fed up
54:57
Republicans and fed up conservatives that are like, we've literally got to do something
55:01
to take our country back.
55:02
And either way, I don't like what I'm feeling and what I'm sensing.
55:05
What's your read on what we're going to see in November?
55:07
Well, I don't think we're going to be burning our side.
55:10
We don't burn stuff down.
55:11
We like to build stuff.
55:13
So I don't think that that's our concern.
55:17
But yeah, I see an enormous struggle ahead for our nation, enormous struggle.
55:26
And that's, you know, a lot's driven by economics and the fed we talked about earlier in Jekyll
55:30
Island and how much debt we're incurring and, you know, so many years of Soviet and Chinese
55:37
programming put into our minds, you know, there's going to be a day of reckoning.
55:42
There's going to be a period of reckoning, a time of reckoning.
55:46
You know, we lived decadently for so long.
55:52
We ignored the Lord for so long.
55:54
We ignored our budget for so long.
55:56
We ignored our elders.
55:58
We ignored the children for so long.
56:00
The Lord's wrath with us.
56:02
He's got to be.
56:03
I mean, look how we have, you know, let so many things slide into disrepair.
56:11
Our souls, our country.
56:14
So there's definitely, we don't come out of this without some scar tissue.
56:20
There's no way we're going to come out of this without scar tissue.
56:25
But we'll get through it.
56:26
I think more, more, more likely, you know, the struggle now is about who's going to kind
56:32
of rebuild this great nation, who's going to have the power and the authority and who's
56:40
going to win that and the rebuilding of it.
56:44
And we're fighting for the hearts and minds of the American people, you know, right now
56:48
because they're, they're watching.
56:54
They're watching and they're waking up.
56:56
And so, oh, it would be okay.
57:00
You know, I'm worried about the bricks, the Brazil and Russia and India and China, you
57:04
know, the currency and that they're going to start trading oil in the Saudis are going
57:09
to start trading oil and stuff other than the American dollar.
57:12
Right.
57:13
I mean, these are, these are big concerns that we can't really influence much.
57:18
But but I am worried about the, they're spending us into oblivion, right?
57:23
I mean, it's, it's 35 trillion to debt.
57:25
We're going trillions in debt every year now.
57:30
It's unsustainable.
57:31
Sure.
57:32
And so, there's going to be belt tightening for this nation and for everybody, for every
57:39
home is the way it seems to me and that, you know, we're so used to having everything
57:45
in America and we're so spoiled and we've had so much when, when people start to have
57:49
less, it's going to be harder on many of them.
57:52
And you know, I just hope that they, they mind their manners and don't try to take from
57:55
their neighbors.
57:56
I hope their neighbors are generous with them and we all pull together as Americans to get
58:01
through this because we are all, all our victims of a corrupt leadership in moral leadership.
58:13
And so we need to pull together, you know, and, and make it right, make it better.
58:19
But we, we, we, we've got to be strong, you know, as Christians, we've got to stand up
58:24
with truth, not be afraid, we've got to be loving as Christians, but, but not so loving
58:32
to the point where we, we sacrifice Jesus's truth and the Bible's truth.
58:40
But yeah, there's hard times coming, I believe.
58:45
But we can get through it.
58:46
We're going to have to get through it.
58:48
We've got no choice but to pull together and get through it.
58:53
But I'm not sure necessarily the system that created this nightmare is the system that
58:57
can fix it.
58:59
There may be sort of, you know, I saw a post the other day that I thought was good is
59:03
said, anybody try unplugging America and then plugging it back in?
59:07
Hmm.
59:08
You know, sometimes you just need to reset and that could be coming.
59:15
Well, and the good thing about, about what we know as Christians is that we know that
59:19
God doesn't need America to accomplish what God wants to accomplish.
59:23
And we know that.
59:24
I mean, if you look back on any, at any point, even in antiquity, the Romans, the Greeks,
59:31
the Assyrians, like these, these groups in their dominant hegemonic control of the world
59:36
never lasts and America is the same.
59:39
So when we start to tighten our belt, most of the world will have to tighten their belt
59:42
into a new dominant hegemon comes, comes online.
59:46
So we've talked about a lot of heavy and a lot of very, very important things.
59:51
And so this is going to seem like a little bit of an awkward transition.
59:54
But as we work our way towards the end here, I've got some more, maybe fun questions to
59:59
ask you here kind of getting back into the acting world.
1:00:01
So you mentioned early in the interview that you were a part of Lonesome Dove.
1:00:05
So a lot of people see Lonesome Dove as one of the best Western pieces of film that have
1:00:11
ever been created.
1:00:12
So it's not a movie.
1:00:13
It's a mini series.
1:00:14
So it's a little bit different.
1:00:15
I want to know from you, if you had to take all the Westerns that have ever been created
1:00:22
and you got to delete all of them except for one.
1:00:25
So in your opinion, the best Western of all time would be what?
1:00:32
Lonesome Dove.
1:00:33
Well, I knew you were going to say Lonesome Dove.
1:00:35
So now you got to give me number two.
1:00:36
So two of them get to survive for the rest of eternity.
1:00:39
You got Lonesome Dove and what else, Ricky?
1:00:43
I love Unforgiven, Clint Eastwood, Morgan Freeman.
1:00:48
I love young for you.
1:00:49
It's a fantastic one.
1:00:50
I got to say, for me, it's kind of hard for me to say anything other than Tombstone just
1:00:55
because of the performances that were in there.
1:00:58
But then also a modern one that doesn't get nearly enough play is Hostiles with Christian
1:01:03
Bale.
1:01:04
It is a brutal movie, the opening scene.
1:01:07
It's kind of like if you can't deal with this, do not pass go type of a scene.
1:01:12
But it is very, very, very rough.
1:01:14
And then the last question, we'll just make this the last question of the day because
1:01:17
I'm curious about this because I've always wondered this and I've had no one to ask that's
1:01:20
ever done it.
1:01:21
And so I get to ask you, there's, there's seemingly a big difference between acting
1:01:25
and directing probably because they are different jobs.
1:01:28
And then I've always thought about, well, what about people that have done both or are
1:01:32
doing both on the same project?
1:01:35
So I thought of Mel Gibson with Braveheart, he was the dominant lead in an epic three hour
1:01:40
long film, but he was also directing it at the same time.
1:01:43
It's like, how can you pull off something like that?
1:01:46
Because you have different directors that'll sneak into their movies.
1:01:48
You know, M. Night Shyamalan might sneak into a scene or two, or, you know, I just forgot
1:01:53
the guy that did Pulp Fiction and Inglores Baster.
1:01:56
His name's not coming to mind.
1:01:58
Tarantino, Quinn Tarantino, like he'll sneak in a scene or two into a movie.
1:02:02
But when you're the person in the movie and you're directing, like, how does that work?
1:02:07
And then for you, what's it like to kind of shift into different places where I'm the
1:02:10
actor that's on the, on the mark versus I'm the one making sure everyone is on their mark?
1:02:15
Yeah, I think, you know, if the role is, is, Mel Gibson was so great in, in Braveheart
1:02:21
and that role was kind of fit him easily.
1:02:23
And I think he could slip in and out of it really easy.
1:02:25
So I think that, you know, a great team around him probably of support.
1:02:29
So he could accomplish both tasks.
1:02:33
But if it was a real stretch of a role, I doubt that the director would want to be the lead
1:02:38
if it was, it was somewhat other kind of role.
1:02:41
But I want to just mention about Tombstone.
1:02:43
It's a great movie.
1:02:44
And I go to Doc's grave sometimes.
1:02:45
I live in Colorado and we hike up to Doc Holiday's grave and I'll drop some something behind
1:02:51
for him.
1:02:52
It's one of my favorite hikes.
1:02:53
If you ever get to Glenwood Springs, if you ever get to Glenwood Springs, you should
1:02:56
go to his grave.
1:02:57
Absolutely.
1:02:58
That'd be awesome.
1:02:59
Tombstone is a great western, so it's definitely my, probably my top third.
1:03:04
Okay.
1:03:05
Well, Ricky, I just got to tell you, I am mega distracted now because all I can think
1:03:08
about is going downstairs and putting Tombstone on.
1:03:10
It's kind of one of those things.
1:03:11
I got a few movies that if I'm flipping around the television, which doesn't happen often,
1:03:15
but this movie goes on, I got to stop what I'm doing.
1:03:18
Tombstone's one of those.
1:03:20
The Sandlot is one of those for whatever reason.
1:03:22
Yeah, it just locks me into where it's like, it doesn't matter if there's 15 minutes left
1:03:25
in the film.
1:03:26
And I know how it ends.
1:03:27
It's like, I got to see where it goes.
1:03:28
Ricky, we've gone everywhere in this conversation.
1:03:30
I've really enjoyed the detail that you've given to this conversation.
1:03:34
And we obviously share a lot of the same concerns, but for me, that's all I got.
1:03:38
Is there anything else you want to get off your chest?
1:03:40
I just wanted to say, I don't have all the answers, Kyle, about my past.
1:03:44
And I'm still searching.
1:03:45
It's kind of like looking, it's like it being in a mystery with very few cute clues.
1:03:49
And I leave room for the possibility that I have a great imagination and that's a possibility.
1:03:57
So just know that.
1:03:59
Well, very, very good.
1:04:00
Ricky.
1:04:01
I'm so glad that we've connected and we'll connect more offline.
1:04:04
And as you get that documentary on board, we'd love to have you back on to chat about
1:04:08
that.
1:04:09
So we'll talk to you.
1:04:10
Certainly down the road.
1:04:11
All right.
1:04:12
Bye.
1:04:13
There you go.
1:04:14
Guys.
1:04:15
I hope you enjoyed my time with Ricky, but before I let you go, we are going to do a quick
1:04:16
resilience boost.
1:04:17
Add an adult to life.
1:04:18
Our mission is equipping men to push back darkness with content that forges spiritual
1:04:21
mental and physical resilience.
1:04:23
The only link I've got for you today is a link to Ricky's Facebook page.
1:04:25
Go and follow them there.
1:04:26
Thank you for listening to this podcast.
1:04:28
Wherever you're listening to this, please subscribe, rate and leave us a positive five
1:04:31
star review.
1:04:32
If you want me to come speak live at your event or on your podcast, shoot me an email
1:04:35
to info@undonton.life.
1:04:37
That's I-N-F-O at Undonton.life.
1:04:40
Follow us on Instagram and like us on Facebook and check out our website for everything else,
1:04:43
including how to donate to keep more content like this coming your way.
1:04:46
Just go to www.undonton.life.
1:04:48
And as always, we want to thank the band Holy Name for allowing us to use their music for
1:04:51
our content.
1:04:52
The music on this podcast is our song Perpetua, which is off their self-titled debut album
1:04:56
on Face Down Records.
1:04:58
The links are in the description.
1:04:59
I'm your host, Kyle Thompson.
1:05:01
Remember, keep pushing back darkness, keep forging spiritual, mental and physical resilience.
1:05:08
Keep seeking the lion of Judah.
1:05:26
[BLANK_AUDIO]