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Pro-Lifer Calmly Dismantles Joe Rogan (Ep. 349)

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Pro-Lifer Calmly Dismantles Joe Rogan (Ep. 349)
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In this episode, Kyle Thompson breaks down a viral conversation between pro-lifer Seth Dillon and Joe Rogan on abortion, highlighting the importance of calm discourse in contentious debates. He emphasizes the moral clarity of the pro-life stance and critiques the growing trend of compelled speech in academia and healthcare.
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In this episode, we do a deep dive into how Seth Dillon, the CEO of The Babylon Bee, calmly smacked Joe Rogan on the issue of abortion. In the Quick Hitters segment, we’ll discuss the University of Central Oklahoma employing a compelled speech mandate concerning student pronouns, Boston Children’s Hospital taking heat for castrating and mutilating children, Minneapolis Public Schools targeting white teachers for termination, flash mobs in California trading dancing in for looting, and Serena Williams thinking it’s unfair that she’s a woman. Let’s get into it…

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0:00 This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into
0:23 it.
0:24 And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome, but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently
0:29 enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance
0:34 leading to a knowledge of the truth. And they may come to their senses and escape from the
0:38 snare of the devil after being captured by him to do his will. That is second Timothy
0:42 two 24 through 26. So when we get into our main section about what we're talking about
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1:40 if you are going to be anywhere near Edmund, Oklahoma, that's just north of Oklahoma City,
1:45 a faith Bible church on Sunday, September the 18th at 6 p.m. I am delivering my speech
1:50 defeating pro abortion arguments and I'm doing that live. But I do want to say one thing because I
1:54 think I mentioned it a couple of other times on the show, you need if you're going to come and
1:58 you have kiddos, they are going to provide childcare at the church, which is a great blessing for a
2:03 lot of people because I know there are a lot of families that are wanting to come out small groups
2:06 and things like that. But there is a link that I'm putting in the show notes today that if you're
2:10 going to come, you just need to let our church know how many kids you're going to be bringing.
2:14 Okay. So we don't want them to be expecting, you know, 50 kids there and then, you know, there's 400
2:18 kids or something like that, that would be a disaster. So make sure if you plan on coming and
2:21 you're bringing your kids that you let the church know that link is in the show notes
2:25 and didn't want to give a little shout out here. So this isn't what we're talking about today,
2:29 but I did want to give a little shout out to a sermon that I just listened to this morning because
2:32 it was legitimately one of the best sermons I've heard recently. So, you know, obviously,
2:36 I listened to the sermons at my church and then I pick up sermons here and there through podcast
2:40 and YouTube videos or whatever. The pastor, Joby Martin out of Florida. So Church of 11 20. So he
2:45 was on the podcast a few months ago. You guys love that interview. He's going through Psalms
2:48 right now. So I forget how many weeks he's doing. I think it's like 20, 21 weeks or something like
2:52 that. But back in, I believe it was June, week seven of his Psalms series, it's called as the
2:57 deer. So it's obviously talking about Psalm 42. Man, he's normally real, you know, happy and
3:04 jovial and he's still hitting his points and he's still hard going, but this one was more serious
3:08 than any of the other sermon sermons that I've heard him do, but he completely changed, completely
3:13 changed. How I view Psalm 42. Okay. And so I think it's an ultimate. It's just a unique thing for you
3:21 guys. I think you should take that in. So in the show notes today, I've provided a link to the
3:25 Apple podcast one since I know most of you listen to podcasts on Apple podcast, but you can easily
3:29 find it on Spotify and everywhere else you get your podcast. But again, that is Joby Martin's Psalms
3:34 week seven as the deer. So today in the quick hitter segment, we're going to discuss the
3:38 University of central Oklahoma employing a compelled speech mandate, concerning student pronouns,
3:44 Boston Children's Hospital taking heat for castrating and mutilation of children,
3:48 Minneapolis public schools targeting white teachers for termination, flash mobs in California
3:53 trading, dancing in for looting and Serena Williams thinking it's unfair that she's a woman.
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6:15 company.com. So now let's go and get into the meat of the show. And that is a pro lifer,
6:21 calmly dismantling Joe Rogan. Okay. So you probably seen this because everything kind of went viral
6:26 in and around this thing. But the pro lifer I'm talking about is the CEO of the Babylon B and
6:31 his name is Seth Dillon. And the subject matter that he calmly dismantled Joe Rogan on was the
6:36 subject of abortion. So this was on Tuesday, August the 16th, Seth Dillon CEO of the Babylon
6:41 B appeared on the biggest podcast in the world, the Joe Rogan experience. It is episode 1857 on
6:46 Spotify. So you can go check that out. That's in the show notes as well. But they talked about a
6:50 lot of stuff. The main thing that he was on there for is because obviously the Babylon B has been
6:54 banned from Twitter for a tweet where they were they looked at Levine, you know, the dude that's
7:00 dressing up as a woman that works for the Biden administration, Rachel Levine, they named him the
7:06 their man of the year or something like that. It was just kind of like this funny tongue-in-cheek
7:09 thing because it was after I believe the USA today had him as a finalist for woman of the year.
7:14 So I thought that that was very interesting, very funny. Twitter thought it was hate speech.
7:17 And so they're demanding that the Babylon B take down that tweet before they can come back on the
7:22 platform and they were refusing to do so. So they spent a lot of time talking about that,
7:26 a lot of time kind of talking about what's going on in the world. And so I was excited to listen to
7:31 that episode. But before I listened to it, there was a clip that Lila Rose from Live Action, who's
7:37 been on the show a couple of times, she tweeted out this three minute little segment of their
7:41 discussion. And this three minute little segment of their discussion went mega viral. I mean,
7:46 that little video has been viewed over a million times in less than a week. And so it was a clip
7:52 of their discussion about the issue of abortion, pro-life versus pro-choice. Now, this clip is edited
7:58 for time, not for content. So if you look at it, there are some transitions. So it's like, oh,
8:04 I wonder if they took this out of context. Guys, you can listen to the entire interview. If you
8:08 listen to everything and listen to all these different things, that's inside that conversation,
8:12 nothing changes about the meat of the conversation. Okay. So in the entire interview, you can see how
8:17 they went back and forth if you go and view it fully. So what I want to do here on this podcast
8:21 is I want to do a breakdown of this clip. Okay, I'm going to go piece by piece on this three minute
8:27 clip to show you literally the masterful job that Seth Dillon did during this part of the interview.
8:34 Okay, because the most of the interview is fun. It's certainly worth your time again. I'm
8:38 a big Joe Rogan fan. I disagree with a bunch of stuff that he says and a bunch of his worldviews.
8:42 But we're going to go ahead and get into this video here. So come along with us.
8:45 You don't have the right to tell my 14 year old daughter, she has to carry her rapist, baby.
8:51 You understand to look at that woman in the eye who who was the one of them. Do you understand
8:54 that? That's a 14 year old child. I do a 14 year old child gets raped. You say that they
8:59 have to carry that baby. So right here from the very, very beginning, Rogan immediately goes to
9:05 the exception of the exception of the exception scenario. Okay. So rape, right a girl, a 14 year old
9:12 girl impregnated by a rapist. Okay. Now one thing that I've seen here recently guys is that more
9:17 and more pro abortion people, especially since the job decision came down, they are starting
9:22 their arguments from there, which is very, very interesting because used to, and perhaps I'm
9:28 missing this, but I don't think so. A lot of these other debates started in other places, right?
9:32 You know, a woman's right to choose my body, my choice. You know, you only care about the baby
9:37 before they're born, you know, just different places, no uterus, no opinion. But now it starts,
9:42 well, what about rape and incest? Like pro abortion people are leading with that in commercials
9:48 and campaign ads and all these different things. Like that's where it's starting. And that's where
9:52 a lot of the misinformation begins with a lot of these things because we're seeing tens of millions
9:56 of dollars dumped into the midterm elections, which we'll talk a way more about that just basically
9:59 putting out abortion, misinformation, disinformation, but literally they kick off Joe Rogan kicks off
10:04 this abortion discussion by going right to that point, which is a very, very disingenuous argument
10:10 because again, if you did what Ben Shapiro does and you just basically put him to a decision
10:14 and say, okay, well, we'll allow abortion in the cases of rape and incest, but then all the other
10:20 99% of abortions are going to be made illegal. Are you okay with that? And a guy like Joe Rogan
10:25 would never, never, ever go for that. Okay, back to the clip here. I don't think two wrongs make a
10:30 right. I don't think I don't think murder is an answer to I don't think murder fixes a rape.
10:35 So this was a perfect response at this point in the discussion. I don't think murder fixes a rape.
10:41 I don't think murder fixes a rape because when you have someone bring up that, you know,
10:47 exception of an exception of an exception scenario, you have to say like, you know, wait a minute,
10:52 like adding a murder to a rape doesn't get rid of the rape. But you know, we've talked about this
10:57 with the guys in 40 days for life. They've talked to so many of these women that had abortions
11:01 after they were raped. And now that woman has two macabre anniversaries in her life. The first
11:06 is the anniversary of the date that she was raped in the second. It was the anniversary of
11:09 the date that she murdered her child, right? And you can tell at this point that Joe Rogan is getting
11:14 very, very agitated, right? He's getting very, very agitated enough to where he's interrupting
11:19 Dylan to where he's just doing everything he can to talk over him. Okay, so keep that in mind
11:24 as we keep this going here. What if we're talking about an abortion when the fetus literally it's
11:31 like six weeks, four weeks, three days? What if she just turned positive just now positive for
11:37 pregnancy? I don't know. Well, I just disagree that what if it just happened to you can like draw
11:41 a line on when you can't. So you can't do that. The very moment. So again, right here, you can
11:47 barely hear what Dylan's saying because Joe Rogan's talking over him. But he says that once this
11:52 is what Dylan's saying, he says that once life has begun, you can't just draw lines, right? This
11:58 is an argument that a lot of pro-life people have made is like, okay, what line is it okay
12:02 to kill this baby, right? You have to draw the line somewhere. So when you say, oh, you know,
12:07 12 weeks of gestation, so you're literally telling me that this thing is somehow more valuable at the
12:12 12-week anniversary date of gestation than 11 days or sorry, 11 weeks, six days. Like what changed?
12:20 What magically changed here, right? And they can't give you an answer, but they usually just kind of
12:26 throw their hands up and say, well, you got to draw a line somewhere. And like, well, why draw it?
12:30 Why they're still in the womb? Why can't you draw draw that line even after they've been born?
12:34 Because again, like I've got a two year old and a five month old, would my life be a lot easier if
12:39 I didn't have them? Yeah, well, why can't I have that same opinion about their life or death as I
12:46 could have had and my wife could have had when they were in the womb? They can't answer that.
12:51 Like they literally don't have a cogent answer for that. All right, back to the clip here.
12:55 I would lay it out like this. I would say it is wrong to intentionally kill an innocent human
13:01 life. Abortion intentionally kills an innocent human life. Therefore, abortion is wrong. And I
13:06 don't think any of the, I don't think any of the examples of like, Oh, well, how developed is it?
13:10 You know, can it, can it think? Is it conscious? Can it dream? Can it feel pain? So for you,
13:14 it's the moment of conception. If it's a human life, an indistinct human life, then I think it's
13:19 wrong to end its life. So that is the pro abortion argument. You've heard it said a few different
13:24 ways. I think I've couched it and said it a few different ways as well. But this is exactly what
13:28 he said. So I'll read it verbatim his quote. It is wrong to intentionally kill an innocent human life.
13:33 Abortion intentionally kills an innocent human life. Therefore, abortion is wrong.
13:38 And the funny thing is when I see people bring this up like this, this logic and kind of this
13:43 way of thinking, pro abortion people can't really destroy any part of that argument. Because everyone
13:49 that has a functioning brain that isn't completely evil would say, yeah, it's wrong to kill innocent
13:54 human life. Yeah, and abortion intentionally kills an innocent human life. Therefore, abortion is
13:59 wrong. That's the only argument that these people have is they go into saying, well, it's not a
14:05 human life yet. Well, it's not viable yet. Well, it's not valuable yet, which is a crazy place for
14:12 them to argue from. But it's what they do. So back to the clip. And so you think that even once,
14:18 do you think that they're like, once the conception happens, there's some sort of a miraculous event,
14:22 like at the very moment, like you could literally get to the point where the sperm cracks the egg.
14:28 If you could scoop that egg out right there, would that be abortion?
14:31 Well, I mean, at some point, you're going to have to say there was a magic moment that happened
14:35 because you believe that we eventually become valuable humans, right? Well, listen, where's the
14:39 moment where you think the magic happened? So a little bit of a weird clip in the original clip.
14:44 So it kind of clip that off at the very end, but it says, where do you think the magic happened?
14:48 Okay. So there's some good and there's some bad here. Okay. So I've been with them. He's been
14:52 doing great this entire time, but I'm going to be a little bit critical here. So when Joe asked him,
14:57 if it wasn't abortion, if you could scoop out that one celled zygote, you know, created after
15:02 the one celled sperm meets the one celled egg and they come together to create a one celled zygote,
15:07 Seth didn't just say yes. And he should have. He should have said, yes. So I didn't think that
15:13 was very good. So he kind of, you know, moved it around a little bit, but then he got to the good
15:18 part, what I thought was good. And he said, where's the moment where you think the magic happens?
15:22 But he kind of, you know, it took him a while to kind of circle the drain before he got to that
15:26 point. And guys, just a little, you know, quick aside, when you're in these conversations with
15:30 people, it's very easy for people that are not a part of the conversation to later,
15:35 look at you and say, Oh, you should have said this or you should have done that. Why didn't you say
15:38 this? Have you ever read a book? Have you ever done this? Have you ever done that? So, you know,
15:41 I'm being critical of a guy that was in the middle of a conversation. So I'm just kind of breaking
15:45 this down for your sake. Because I remember when I went on Mike Ritlin's podcast about a year ago,
15:49 people were like, we talked for three hours and we spent probably an hour, hour and a half of
15:53 it talking about God. And you know, this is a guy that doesn't believe in God and all that.
15:56 And the only people that got mad at me, I've talked about this before were Christians.
15:59 They're like, well, why didn't you use this apologetic technique? And why didn't you
16:02 quote this? And why didn't you do that? And blah, blah, it's like, well,
16:05 because I was in the conversation and you got to hear the words that I said and the words that he
16:10 said, but you weren't in our brains thinking about where this was going to go and where we wanted
16:15 the land and what we talked about before the microphone started recording and after the microphones
16:19 were turned off, you weren't there for that. So I'm very sensitive to that fact. But I just kind
16:25 of get back to my commentary here. When you ask Joe, where's the moment where you think the magic
16:30 happens? Okay. And if you go back, because it doesn't do it in this clip, if you go back to the
16:35 episode, he can't really give an answer. Because if you give an answer, you're giving away the fact
16:40 that you really, really don't believe in biology. Because the only place in the universe where
16:44 DNA sprouts out of nowhere is when that one celled sperm touches the one spelled egg and they become
16:49 by and become a one celled zygote. All of your DNA in that exact moment is there. Nothing changes.
16:54 You are a living human at that point. That is a living human because cell division is taking place.
17:00 Cell repair is taking place. Metabolism is taking place. All that stuff is taking place that only
17:06 happens in living things. Okay. But again, even someone like Joe Rogan, who would purportedly
17:12 say support the science and believe the science and do all those different things. Let's go back
17:15 to the biology. He can't argue based on biology because that doesn't work for him either. Right.
17:21 So a little bit of good, a little bit of bad in that segment. But we'll get back into this one
17:24 here. This is a fairly lengthy quote that we'll let you get into here. So back to the clip.
17:28 When we start talking about harmful misinformation and the types of things that are considered,
17:32 like that I say or that we tweet or the jokes that we make that are considered harmful misinformation,
17:36 I'm like, well, what about what about calling that baby a clump of cells? I think that's harmful
17:40 misinformation because then you're encouraging people to kill it like it's nothing when it's
17:44 actually a human life. It's a developing human life. I think abortion is health care
17:48 the way that rape is love making if we want to if we want to use rape as an example. I think it's
17:52 I think they're opposites and it's like these are euphemisms that we use. You know, we use the
17:59 word health care. We're talking about a procedure that ends an innocent human life and we're calling
18:03 it health care. That's like calling rape love making. And this is why it's such a human issue
18:09 because I see what you're saying. Abortion is health care the way that rape is love making.
18:16 I mean, guys, that is legitimately. I'm not being hyperbolic here. That is legitimate legitimately
18:21 considering the context. One of the greatest quotes I've ever heard. Okay. And it's so, so,
18:26 so true. The only thing I wish he did is I wish he didn't say it again. It's kind of like when
18:30 people say a joke and no one really laughs. They say it again, assuming that everybody wasn't listening.
18:34 It's like, I think he should have just left it the first time, but I understand why he said it
18:38 again. But abortion is health care the way that rape is love making. That is absolutely true.
18:42 Because when people hold up these signs and where the t-shirts that say abortion is health care,
18:45 it's like, what are you talking about? Like, how is it healthy to destroy a human life?
18:50 Same thing that you could say about, you know, these hospitals, which we'll talk about here in a
18:54 second that are chopping off healthy breast tissue and body parts from children and calling it health
19:00 care so that they can somehow have a better trans identity. Okay. But one thing to notice
19:06 towards the end of this little clip is the entire tone of the conversation shifts virtually at this
19:11 moment. Again, go watch the entire interview. The entire tone of this particular segment
19:16 shifts at that moment. You could even hear it in Joe's voice, right? And so this, you know,
19:20 effects as we get into the last clip here, which we'll go ahead and get into now.
19:23 Life is valuable. Like, yes, and people have almost were the victims of abortion, and they weren't.
19:31 They went on to become these amazing people and we would have lost them.
19:34 Sometimes it's a failed abortion. Like, there's people who survived like a saline abortion and
19:39 they had their damages result of it, but they, but they lived and now they're born. They usually go
19:45 on, ironically enough to become pro-life activists. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. That's wild. But it makes
19:53 sense. I mean, if that's what made you, wouldn't you be a pro-life activist? Probably wouldn't be.
19:57 So did you catch that? There was something very, very subtle there. It wasn't even in my notes.
20:02 It was whenever I was listening back to it just now. Joe Rogan said victims of abortion.
20:06 What does he mean by that? That would have been a great time for Seth Dillon to ask him.
20:11 Like, hey, what did you mean by victims of abortion? If abortion is health care,
20:16 how can there be a victim? Because like, if I were to roll my ankle and go into the doctor
20:20 and they treat me for this rolled ankle, who's the victim exactly? Me?
20:25 Them? I'm not a victim of health care. I'm a beneficiary of health care. So I would have asked
20:30 him, you know, what do you mean by victims of abortion? Because again, you know, within a typical
20:34 abortion scenario, two people walk into the doctor's office, the woman and her baby, and only one of
20:39 them walks out. So what victim are you talking about? But one thing that Dillon gets him to do
20:44 is he gets Joe to admit that life is valuable. And I say that like he was withholding. But
20:50 obviously Joe knows that human life is valuable because he values his own life. I assume he values
20:55 the life of his wife and his daughters. But you get him to admit it in this discussion about abortion.
21:01 That's not an insignificant thing. But I do think that this was also a missed opportunity
21:06 for Dillon to ask Joe Rogan. Why is life valuable? Why? Why should it be protected?
21:14 And you know, when do you Joe Rogan think it's worthy of our protection as a society? Because that's
21:21 what the laws of the land are for for the protection and flourishing of its people inside of its
21:27 populace, right? And again, I thought, you know, he did an amazing job here overall. And there are
21:34 a lot of takeaways. But I love at the end of this clip that it ends with Joe Rogan agreeing that you
21:42 would 100% end up as a pro life advocate advocate if you were saved from abortion. And again, just
21:48 his language, like it's just so interesting. I think there's some internal struggle here,
21:52 but I want to go into my takeaways from this clip. So I have six takeaways, mainly from this clip.
21:57 Here's the first one. It's amazing how a conversation about a controversial topic can go
22:02 if you keep your cool. So when I teach about the abortion subject, and I'll do so, you know,
22:08 at Faith Bible Church in Edmondel in September the 18th, you guys should come out. The first person
22:13 to lose their cool loses. The first person to raise their voice loses because you just need to sit
22:20 on the fact like if you think your position is correct, you shouldn't have to yell it to convince
22:26 people to come to your side, which comes into the next takeaway, which is it's amazing how good
22:31 the pro life side of the argument is if you don't let your own personality or immaturity get in the
22:37 way, because guys, I've been the worst about this over the years when I would get into a debate with
22:42 somebody, whether in person or on social media, which I completely don't do anymore, like I would
22:46 get so fired up. Like from from jump, I'd go from zero to 100 super fast and just jump into the
22:53 argument would be offensive and you know, just try to bull them over. And it was like, I was right
22:58 in a lot of those scenarios, but you would never know it by looking at it. Or even if you knew it
23:02 intellectually that I was right, you'd be like, God, Kyle is just really acting like a jerk during
23:05 that entire situation. It's like, yeah, yeah, I get it. But the pro life side is the moral side.
23:12 Protecting the most innocent humans on this planet, which are humans that are inside their mother's
23:16 wounds is the right position. People on the left love to talk about, Oh, you want to be on the right
23:21 side of history? It's like, how could you be more so on the right side of history than protecting
23:25 the unborn? They don't see it that way, but they should. And hopefully they do someday we should
23:30 all certainly be praying for that. And the next takeaway I have here is that Joe Rogan clearly
23:36 hasn't talked to many people that are genuinely pro life, because there are a lot of people that
23:41 are squishy pro life. And I've talked about that on the show. I try to disabuse you a lot of the
23:45 notions that would lead you to believe that there are certain positions and times and scenarios where
23:50 it's okay to murder a, you know, baby in the womb. And I've again, I've disabuse you guys of all
23:55 those different things. But you can just tell on how Joe Rogan is talking to Dylan that he just
23:59 he doesn't really interact with pro life people. It doesn't really happen very often.
24:03 Which leads to my next point, which is that Joe Rogan clearly has not fully thought through his
24:09 views on the abortion issue. Because again, if you go to the exception of the exception of
24:14 the exception scenario of rape or incest, right from the beginning, it shows that you're a slogan
24:19 nearer, right? That you can see a slogan and then put that into your mental role effects and pulled
24:25 out when you feel like you need it. That's where he began. You don't need to begin there
24:30 if you have a genuine understanding of your position. Now, there is not really a tenable
24:35 position on the pro abortion side of things. There just isn't. But you can just tell by the way he's
24:39 talking about the issue that he really hasn't thought it through. Another takeaway here, we'll
24:44 do a couple more and then we'll move on. I think on the abortion issue, you know, as have, as has
24:50 already happened with many other issues, that Joe's opinion can be swayed to the pro life side,
24:57 okay? I think it can be, but we'll just kind of have to see if it's actually going to be that way.
25:01 Because Joe Rogan is a guy that describes himself as highly liberal. I'm liberal in just about
25:05 everything. And yet he didn't want to stay in the liberal bastion that is California.
25:10 He moved to Texas. Why? Because of liberal policies in the state of California,
25:16 which led to rampant homelessness, out of control, taxation, the COVID lockdowns,
25:22 all these different things. Then he moves to Texas, a red state, and he moves to a deep blue dot in
25:27 a red state. But he also goes there and he's enjoying all the things that were the opposite
25:32 of what he left. And again, he's a purported liberal. But again, this guy is, you know, he wants
25:38 to legalize all drugs. He's he's pretty good with open borders and immigration. But then he's also
25:42 like pro gun and pro hunting and all these different things. So he's kind of this mixed bag. And so I
25:46 think part of that mixed bag could be this issue. Because he very easily mentioned in this whole
25:53 thing that, you know, basically there are victims of abortion. And it's not the woman getting the
25:57 abortion because her body is just the setting for the abortion. The abortion only takes place
26:01 to the baby that's inside of her. It's not the woman's, you know, body parts that are being ripped
26:04 to pieces. It's the babies, right? And he also admitted that life was valuable. And you could see,
26:10 again, Seth Dylan being very calm and almost like slowly pulling him towards the pro life
26:16 side of this particular argument. I thought it was fantastic. But the last thing here on this,
26:21 this whole deal is that we must all, and I mean, I literally mean all of us, we must stand ready
26:27 to give a sound measured God honoring apologetic for the pro life viewpoint, if put in a similar
26:37 situation. Now what I mean by similar situation is not on a podcast show in Austin, Texas,
26:43 that is going to be heard by tens of millions of people. Because literally there are only a handful
26:49 of human beings that will ever be in that situation. The situation that I'm talking about that similar
26:54 is whenever you are eyeball to eyeball with somebody that is pro abortion or somebody that is somewhere
27:00 between the extreme left of the pro abortion side and the extreme right of the pro life side,
27:05 which is where I'm at, right? Abortion should not be legal for any reason whatsoever. Okay.
27:09 If you have somebody that's in between those two extremes and you hold to a significant pro life
27:15 position, you've got to be able to give an apologetic for that. You've got to be ready to give your
27:20 arguments. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that you have the personality to go out and seek those
27:25 arguments. Just walk up to random strangers on the street and start up that conversation.
27:28 But perhaps that is you, right? But if you're not ready with these arguments, then when you get
27:34 in that position, you will fall to the level of your preparedness. We talk about that all time with,
27:39 you know, concealed carry people or people that fight or, you know, jujitsu or whatever,
27:43 like when you're in that kinetic situation where you need to defend yourself for your loved ones,
27:47 you're going to fall to the level of your training. You're not all of a sudden going to rise to the
27:50 occasion because you bench press once a week, right? So guys, I'm going to just repeat that
27:54 point and then we'll move on. We must all stand ready to give a sound measured God honoring apologetic
28:01 for the pro life viewpoint if put in a similar situation. All right, guys, let's dig into the
28:07 quick hitter segment. Here's the first one. I'm excited and not excited about this one as well.
28:11 But I thought about making this the entire, you know, thing that I would talk about at the beginning
28:15 of the show, but then the Joe Rogan stuff came up and I didn't want this to linger any longer.
28:19 I've been sitting on this one for a few weeks, but the University of Central Oklahoma employs
28:22 a compelled speech mandate concerning student pronouns. Okay. So for those of you that are not
28:27 aware, if you've not been listening to this podcast for a length of time, I am a graduate of the
28:31 University of Central Oklahoma. Okay. So that is the third largest university in the state of
28:35 Oklahoma. Whenever I went there, there were about 17,000 students. I think they're around, you know,
28:39 15, five or something like that right now. So a very large public institution here in the state
28:44 of Oklahoma. I loved my time while I was there. I was like, Mr. UCO, right? Like I was synonymous
28:49 with school spirit and support for the university. And no, we don't wear, you know, other schools,
28:54 you know, shirts when we're on campus here because we're Broncos and blah, blah, like all that.
28:57 That's the guy that I was even after graduation. I would constantly get pulled back to campus
29:02 to do stuff with the athletic department or do stuff with the communication department,
29:06 which is where I got my degree from or the MBA program, which I was on the board there or the
29:10 alumni association, which I was on the board with them as well. But then whenever they got a new
29:15 president, and so the new president is named Patty Newholed Ravica Marr. I was familiar with
29:19 Patty. She was just Patty Newholed at the time whenever she was one of the people working on
29:24 campus. But then she was hand selected to be the president of the university. Okay. And so
29:31 something you need to know about her. She's young, she's smart, but she's also a lesbian. So she checks
29:35 some intersectional boxes, a woman and a lesbian. So hence the last name, Newholed Ravica Marr,
29:40 like her wife is someone named Ravica Marr, but she was placed in the power. And I have it on good
29:47 authority that this lady was not in the final running for the title of being president of the
29:56 university, but that she was selected over all the finalists that were chosen by this entire big
30:01 committee, but she was selected to become the president of the University of Central Oklahoma.
30:05 Now, my ideas as to why that is having not been in the room for these discussions is because it
30:11 was the first female president of the unit or of the University of Central Oklahoma. She could
30:15 also check the other intersectional box box of being LGBTQ plus, you know, because she's a lesbian,
30:20 that that was going to be a big boon for the campus. And she was young. So she could be the
30:24 president for the next 30 years. But for me, it's like, look, I love you, CEO. I have some
30:29 misgivings about what she may do, but I don't know her well enough personally to know which
30:33 direction she's going to push the university in. So while I was on the MBA program board,
30:36 while I was on the Alumni Association board, I'm like, okay, I'm just going to chill and watch
30:40 and see what happens. But then there have been a lot of things that have been not a left word
30:45 lurch for the University of Central Oklahoma, but a sprint towards the left of all these different
30:50 social issues. So a member of the UCO faculty staff reached out to me probably four or five
30:56 weeks ago now and said, Hey, have you heard about the UCO's chosen names and pronouns policy?
31:03 And I immediately rolled my eyes and I was like, I knew there was a reason why I left all the boards
31:08 and basically have distanced myself from the university is because of crap like this. But then
31:13 this individual sent me the document itself. Okay, so I'm going to put the document. If I can figure
31:18 out how to put a PDF in the show notes or something like that, I'll make sure you guys have access
31:22 to the entire document. But this is the University of Central Oklahoma chosen names and pronouns
31:26 documents. So it's a couple of pages long, but I'm just going to look at a couple of sections.
31:30 So if you are somewhere safe or you can look at the PDF as I go through it, you can go ahead and
31:33 pull that up. But I'm going to get into it here. So the first thing is the introduction. So here
31:37 it is. The University of Central Oklahoma affirms the right of students and employees to be addressed
31:43 and be known by the given first names and the pronouns that they choose to express their identity.
31:49 So obviously the given first names part like, yeah, like, you know, my son's name is James. But
31:54 if at some point he wants to go by Jim or Jimmy, okay, well, that's, you know, a chosen first name.
31:58 Like, I'm assuming we're going to continue calling Elijah squish inside this house,
32:02 but he's probably not going to be going to be called that when he's a senior in high school.
32:05 He'll probably go by Eli or Elijah at that point, you would think, right? But then it's the pronoun
32:09 side. Okay. And the pronouns that they choose to express their identity. So no mention of the
32:16 pronouns that are appropriate concerning their biology, but the ones that they choose. So that's
32:21 the introduction. So part two, it's called scope. So it's just one sentence here. This policy is
32:26 intended to apply to all university databases and electronic records and interfaces and or on and
32:33 after the effective date of this policy. Okay. So that's kind of the IT side of this. So there's
32:37 the, you know, diversity department, and then there's the IT side. So I'm going to skip over
32:41 section three and go to section four. And this is the policy statement. So this is where the rubber
32:45 really starts to meet the road. The University of Central Oklahoma, UCO, affirms the right of
32:50 students and employees to be addressed and to be known by the given first names in the pronouns
32:55 that they choose to express their identity. UCO upholds this right by providing both students and
32:59 employees with the opportunity to designate their chosen given first name and pronouns
33:04 through an online self service option accessible to all students and employees chosen names and
33:09 pronouns as designated through this online self service option will appear in all publicly accessible
33:15 and in most restricted fields in the university's databases and systems so that systems users will
33:20 see displayed the students or employees chosen name and pronouns. It is not necessary for students
33:26 or employees to change their names legally in order to designate a different chosen name or
33:31 pronoun to display within these systems. So the rest of it, I for this next section, I don't really
33:37 care about it, but is that interesting there at the end there? It is not necessary for students or
33:41 employees to change their names legally in order to designate a different chosen name or pronouns
33:46 to display within these systems. So the name thing, obviously, like, if you want to change
33:50 your name, but you haven't really got it on your license yet, like I understand that,
33:53 but the pronoun thing is interesting because currently in the state of Oklahoma, there's not
33:56 a third option on your driver's license. It's male or female. X is not an option. Unknown is
34:02 not an option. Like element op is not an option. Okay. So it's interesting that they worded it
34:08 that way. I'm sure they thought it was subtle, but it was like a loud, you know, banging drum for
34:12 me. So we're going to skip down a little bit to a section called the following restrictions apply
34:16 to the designation of chosen given first names and pronouns. So let me read this here.
34:21 Students may designate newly chosen names and or pronouns at their discretion, but newly chosen
34:28 names and or pronouns chosen after the beginning of the semester may not be reflected or printed on
34:33 class roll sheets and other documents prepared by instructors at the beginning of the semester.
34:38 Okay. And this is very, very important. This is probably the most important part right here.
34:41 In these cases, students should notify their instructors that they have designated newly chosen name
34:48 and or pronouns that were not included on beginning of the semester class rosters
34:54 and course sites. Okay. Now, the reason why that's probably the most important section
35:00 is because what if the professor refuses? So let's take a scenario. Let's say in the middle of
35:08 semester. So I walked in as Kyle, you know, he, him pronouns, but in the middle of the semester,
35:14 which is not going to be reflected in the databases or in the role, I say, I'm Carla and my pronouns
35:20 are now her, uh, hers or whatever. She her, whatever. What if the professor refuses to call me Carla?
35:29 Or if they say, Hey, I don't really kind of like how I am. I don't care what you say your name is.
35:34 I'll call you by, you know, your chosen given name that you want to be called by, but I'm not
35:39 going to say something that is untrue. Like referring to a he as a her. Why is that missing?
35:46 There's something missing in here. What if they refuse to do so? So I'm going to get into the last
35:54 section here and then we'll get into some more commentary. So this is the last section before
35:58 the technical standard, which I'm going to ignore because that's just basically it.
36:02 Students and employees may select pronouns from the list provided in the online self service
36:06 option described above. Now, I immediately thought when I read that sentence, guys,
36:11 well, there's an ever expanding list of pronouns. So what if theirs aren't listed? Well, they address
36:15 that immediately. Students and employees who wish to select pronouns that are not available through
36:19 the online self service option may request that additional pronouns be added to the list of
36:24 available options to make a request of this sort. The student or employee should contact
36:29 the university's office of inclusive community. Yes, that is a real office. And that is an inclusive
36:35 community at uco.edu, the office of inclusive community inclusive community at uco.edu.
36:43 So they solve it there. So that's interesting that that you look through all this, but let's be clear
36:49 about what this is, what this policy is. It's compelled speech.
36:56 Now, if you're familiar with that phraseology compelled speech, it probably goes back to before
37:01 you knew the name of a guy named Jordan Peterson. So this was Bill C 16 in Canada, where there was
37:07 going to be a compelled speech mandate around pronouns. And he was very, very open and loud
37:13 and bombastic about his, you know, basically hating that idea, his opposition to that idea.
37:21 And it wasn't because he wanted to be rude. It wasn't because he loves misgendering or dead
37:26 naming people. It was because he understands all the totalitarian regimes that almost ended
37:31 the world in the 20th century, right? He understands Stalin's Russia or Soviet Union. He understands,
37:38 you know, Hitler's Germany, he understands Pol Potts, Cambodia, he understands
37:42 Mao's China, he understands those because he spent hundreds and hundreds of hours reading,
37:47 thinking about and studying those particular things. And a lot of the things that started
37:52 the beginning of those regimes was compelling speech and or acceptable speech versus unacceptable
37:58 speech. That's what this policy is. It seems to be couched in generalized language. And if you're
38:04 not really astute enough to read this and be able to read between the lines, you're going to be like,
38:08 you know, just kind of is what it is. Hey, it's 2022. So people got different pronouns like,
38:12 what's a big deal? They're telling you what words you're not allowed to say. So again, I come in,
38:18 I tell you, my name is Carla, and I'm she her now. And I'm saying, and this policy is saying,
38:24 you have to do that now. That when you're using a pronoun to describe me, it has to not align
38:31 with the truth. The truth does not matter as much as my feelings and my preferences. That is what
38:36 this is. And also, let's be clear about this. The University of Central Oklahoma, my alma mater,
38:43 purposefully put out this policy without addressing what the consequences would be for any faculty
38:51 staff that decide to not go along with the charade. Why? Why did they leave out the potential consequences?
39:01 Because it's not as if there won't be consequences. But where is the section of this, this document
39:07 that says, if any faculty staff member refuses to abide by someone's chosen name or pronouns,
39:13 here's what they can expect. It's because they're going to just make it up on the spot.
39:17 They're going to plan to make an example out of somebody and hope that person's not very
39:22 litigious, right? This isn't a farrier. It really is. Because with any policy prescription that is
39:29 demanding that something go down with people that have autonomy to agree with that or abide by that
39:34 or not, you have to give them an idea as to what the consequences will be if they don't go along with
39:40 that. Now, it's my understanding that there have been different colleges within the university
39:46 that have gotten together to further kind of like pre year discussions about what's going to happen
39:50 for this semester and hear some policy changes and hear some whatever and so whatever. And I do
39:54 have some some knowledge of how one of those went. They basically started with the DEI people,
39:58 the diversity, equity, inclusion people, they kind of kicked off these meetings. And I know
40:02 that there were people that kind of raised their hands and said, Hey, what about this policy? Like,
40:06 you know, what are we going to do? Like, you know, what if somebody changes the size they want to
40:09 change their pronouns multiple times throughout the semester? And like, all I'm trying to do is
40:12 like teach them how to do whatever it is I'm being paid to teach them how to do. And now I'm having
40:17 to worry about names and pronouns and all this other stuff. And you know, I don't know that a lot
40:22 of movement has been made on that. But for one particular person in general, or I guess for one
40:27 particular person in particular, I gave them some advice on what they should do. Okay, for the
40:32 predicament that they find themselves in. So this particular person did not get a great answer
40:37 from the person that runs their department as to what would happen if they themselves decided
40:42 that they weren't going to buy by this. So what I encourage this person to do is to get a sit down
40:48 meeting with that person and or get an email, you know, chained together going with that
40:54 department head to get a defined exact reasoning and understanding of what would happen if they
41:02 decided not to comply. Right. And so if they want to just get it, you know, on an email so they
41:08 haven't in writing or if they want to record the conversation once they go in there, like whatever,
41:12 they I encouraged him to do that. But then beyond that, I encourage this person to also go to that
41:19 person's boss. So you got the department head, go to the department heads boss and get confirmation
41:25 again, start the conversation over from the beginning. Hey, this was, you know, the director
41:29 of the department, this was their understanding. But now for you, what is your understanding of this?
41:33 And literally take that conversation all the way up to the president's office and say,
41:39 if I or if anyone else on campus decides that they don't want to do this, because they believe in
41:45 truth and they believe that this pronoun stuff is nonsense, what are you going to do? And you need
41:51 to get everybody on the record answering that question. Okay. So for this individual or any
41:57 other individual that could ever possibly be in the situation, that is my advice to you. Get them
42:02 on the record and make sure you have it recorded, whether the audio or in writing. So my big takeaway
42:08 on this story is that this cam and will happen at a university near you. And also for your parents
42:17 out there, make sure that you keep track of the universities that don't fold to the pressure of
42:22 the LGBTQ revolution. So there are going to be some conservative holdouts. So think of a Hillsdale
42:29 college, which is like, you know, an old school conservative university, they're going to continue
42:33 to expand and get even bigger over the years as long as they can continue with standing,
42:37 you know, what's coming at them. And part of the thing and the reason why a university like that's
42:41 able to do that is because they take no funding from the federal government, right? It's an
42:45 interesting thing. But guys, this is going to happen. You know, a lot of you are complaining
42:49 about happening at your K through 12 schools. Yeah, I get it. The same thing is going to happen
42:53 within the college programs, which is another reason why I tell all you guys, you really need
42:57 to have conversations about this with your children. Because if you're going to be on the hook for
43:02 potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars to send your kid to a liberal indoctrination camp,
43:07 otherwise known as a state university, like, don't you want to have some say in that?
43:11 Like that's not a good idea. You're going to incur all this debt and or your child's going to incur
43:17 all this debt, especially if they get some useless degree that they're not going to use for their
43:22 next job, have a conversation to them about going into a trade or literally taking a year off to
43:27 figure out what they want to do, going and getting a job first, you know, working and trying to see
43:31 if they can find something that they like to do as opposed to just like, you know, just brain
43:35 dead, go to a university. Well, what's your major? I have no idea. I don't have to declare one and
43:39 tell them a junior party. Like, sorry, like, that's not a great idea for most people. So for you,
43:45 if you're going to be a well-meaning, you know, Christian leader of a parent as a father for
43:49 most of you listening to this, you've really got to take a lot of these things into account.
43:53 Because this isn't nothing. And again, I've got a two year old and a five month old.
43:57 So I've got a lot of years to really look at the landscape. For some of you, you got kids that are
44:02 knocking on the door going to university somewhere. So got to keep all this in mind.
44:05 All right. Next quick hitter here, Boston Children's Hospital takes heat for castrating
44:11 and mutilating children. So this is according to the federalist, Boston Children's Hospital is
44:15 promoting the mutilization of healthy kids who claim to be transgender via gender affirming
44:20 hysterectomies, sterilization and chemical castration, despite the irreversible mental
44:24 and physical damage those procedures cause. For years now, BCH has mutilated children's sexual
44:30 organs under the guise of inclusive reproductive health care for people of all gender identities
44:34 and anatomies. This includes prescribing hormones that suppress administration in underage girls
44:40 and block the increase of testosterone and minor boys, phaloplasties and metodioplasties
44:46 for 18 year old girls who want penises, vaginal plastic for 17 year old boys who want vaginas,
44:51 chest reconstruction and breast augmentation for children as young as 15, and even medically
44:55 unnecessary hysterectomies for girls whom the hospital deems eligible for surgery. Just this
45:00 week, this was actually last week, BCH scrubbed a video titled what happens during a gender
45:04 affirming hysterectomy after facing backlash for promoting the surgery for minors who can't
45:09 consent and do not have the mental capacity to make such a life altering decision. An archived
45:14 version of the footage shows Dr. Francis Grimstad, an obstetrician gynecologist describing the process
45:19 of rendering teen women infertile by removing key female reproductive organs in the name of
45:24 affirmation. A gender affirming hysterectomy is very similar to most hysterectomies that occur
45:29 Grimstad happily explains. A hysterectomy itself is the removal of the uterus, the cervix,
45:34 which is the opening of the uterus, and the fallopian tubes which are attached to the sides of the
45:38 uterus. Okay, so there's more there. I'm sure a lot of you guys, if you follow most people in the
45:43 conservative space, they've really been talking a lot about this has actually happened a couple of
45:46 weeks ago. I think I said it happened a week ago. But I think it's very interesting kind of watching
45:51 how people have reacted to the story, how the right the political right is reporting the story
45:55 versus how the left is. So when I was looking at this, obviously, you know, the federalist is very
46:00 conservative. So obviously the stuff that I just read was very tinged in that idea. And you could
46:04 even just say tinged with the idea of truth. But how the right is handling this story is they are
46:09 rightfully no pun intended. They're aghast and worried about this hospital, this this huge like
46:16 top tier hospital going out of their way to normal normalize the mutilation and chemical
46:21 castration of children. But the left on the other hand, they're worried about all the quote
46:27 unquote violent threats coming their way and coming the hospital's ray after right-wing people
46:33 online began targeting them. Okay, now here's the thing about that. So we're getting all these
46:39 reports of all these people you making violent threats towards the hospital or anything like that.
46:43 Can someone show me a receipt? Can you show me the DM? Can you post the email or the voicemail
46:52 that was left with the violent threat on it? Because I'm just about tired of everyone in the
46:58 general public just taking as as truth, taking it as gospel that when people say I've been getting
47:04 death threats that they're actually getting them. Okay, now I'm I'm in no way shape or form saying
47:10 that death threats are a good thing. If you disagree with what Boston Children's Hospital is doing
47:14 and you're calling them saying I'm in and threatening to kill their staff, that's a really,
47:17 really horrific thing to do. That's a really, really stupid thing to do. But a good thing to do
47:22 might be to go outside their facility and hold up a sign that says please stop castrating children.
47:26 Like it's your wealth in your rights to call them to email them to show up and to say,
47:33 hey, I'm really concerned about what you guys are doing. Can you stop it? There's no threat there.
47:38 It's not stopping her else. Right? Right? It's just don't do this anymore.
47:41 Like you can't castrate these children. So I'm very happy that there are a lot of conservative
47:47 commentators that have taken up the mantle on this. Matt Walsh of the Daily Wire, obviously on
47:51 the hills of what is a woman, he's really going out of his way on this one. And he's getting a lot
47:55 of support from people to where it's like, we can't be silent on this issue anymore.
47:59 We can't know that there are children's hospitals in the United States that are getting funding
48:03 from the federal government that are literally destroying the lives of children before we have
48:08 any idea, right? You know, according to data as to what the long term effects are going to be.
48:13 Now, anyone with a functioning brain would know what the long term effects are because
48:18 suicidality for people that go through a quote unquote full transition is just as high if not
48:23 higher after they've gone through the transition as was before. So as a cohort of the population,
48:28 people that have gendered dysphoria have a much higher rate of suicide or at least trying for
48:33 suicide, but then people that go through all the hormones and all the surgery and all those things,
48:37 they still commit suicides at a high, high, high rate. Why? Because there is a meaning shaped
48:44 hole in their life that they think if they get a fake penis sewed on top of their vagina is somehow
48:49 going to fix it. That if their breasts are bothering them as a 14 year old girl, that if they get those
48:55 chopped off, that that's somehow going to make them whole. It is a God shaped hole inside these
49:00 people and they're finding their meaning in how they present themselves in terms of their gender
49:06 identity. So the big takeaway on this one is the left cannot handle when you simply point to what
49:14 they're doing or saying and critique it. They simply cannot fathom why you aren't giving them
49:21 your full-throated support. Pick an issue, whether it's transgenderism with kids,
49:26 anything that comes out of the array of the LGBTQ+ issues on abortion, on health care,
49:32 on taxation, on immigration, they have no idea why you can't just say, yeah, I agree with you.
49:39 You're so smart and awesome. Thank you for being my handler. They don't get it. It's just astonishing
49:46 to me that they can't handle it. They become such a whiny crying little measly milli-a-mouth
49:53 babies when you critique what they're doing. And when all you're doing is holding up a platter
49:59 with what they're doing on it and saying, I don't like this because typically, not all of them,
50:05 typically people on the right are going to lie about what you've said or what you're doing.
50:09 They just don't have that in them because they typically want truth to be known. This is typical,
50:16 not across the board, but this is typical. And so when somebody wants truth to be known and they
50:22 just show an accurate depiction within context of what you think and what you're doing and you're
50:27 like, oh, that's crazy. It's like, here, let me distract you with my reaction to your reaction
50:32 as opposed to us having to reckon with the fact that you're cutting off the penises of boys
50:38 and removing the sexual organs of girls, castrating them, giving them chemicals that we used to give
50:46 to rapists and pedophiles to castrate them. We're giving them to children that can't consent to
50:52 a sexual relationship that can somehow consent to their sexual organs being removed or fake ones
50:58 being added to them. So as this continues to move forward, I will continue to bring this to you.
51:05 I will continue to report on it. And if there are things that you can do to fight against this,
51:09 and I don't mean fight with your fists or with multiple cocktails or bricks through windows,
51:14 I mean, fight this ideology to try to get this to stop. You absolutely should do so.
51:18 All right. Next quick hitter here, Minneapolis public schools targets white teachers for
51:24 termination. So this is according to daily caller, a contract between a Minneapolis public school
51:29 district and teachers unions calls for white teachers to be fired before minority teachers,
51:33 according to the contract obtained by the daily caller. On March the 25th, the Minneapolis
51:38 Federation of Teachers and the Minneapolis public schools struck a deal to end a 14 day union strike
51:44 that deal included a bargaining agreement for various proposals, including one that fires
51:48 educators based on their race, according to alpha news, starting with the spring 2023 budget tie-out
51:54 cycle. If accessing a teacher that's firing a teacher who is a member of a population underrepresented
51:59 among licensed teachers in the site, the district shall access the latest or they shall access the
52:06 next least senior teacher who is not a member of an underrepresented population. The contract reads
52:12 minority teachers may also be exempted from district wide layoffs outside seniority order
52:17 and given priority reinstatement according to the contract. The contract attempts to protect teachers
52:22 at 15 racially isolated schools from layoffs. These schools house the greatest concentration
52:27 of poverty within the district. The race based firing process is intended to make up for past
52:32 discrimination by the district disproportionately impacting the hiring of underrepresented teachers
52:36 in the district as compared to the relevant labor market and the community. This disparity
52:41 resulted in a lack of diversity of teachers according to the contract. So a few random thoughts here.
52:46 The first thought is that this is obviously mega racist. If you're hiring or firing based on race,
52:53 that is super duper racist, right? So you don't have to go back to the civil rights era into all
53:00 the agreements that happened therein with our federal government to realize, yeah, this is pretty
53:04 speaking racist, but racism apparently is 100% okay as long as it's targeted to white people. And again,
53:12 here I am as a Christian white straight, you know, cisgendered male. So I'm like the worst version
53:17 of Satan walking the earth and I have red hair. So I have no soul. So it's the worst thing possible.
53:22 But racism should not happen to any race for any reason whatsoever. And here's the other thing.
53:29 Other school districts in this country will use this what we're seeing right now in
53:34 Minneapolis, Minnesota here in the United States as a model for their own policies in their school
53:39 district. This is obviously what's going to come next. So they're not the first school district to
53:43 do some nonsense like this, but they're not going to be the last and they're just basically showing
53:47 you here's how you can get it done. Here's how you can make it happen. Now this also gets into a
53:51 point someone, anyone, feel free to email me info out on non to dot life. Tell me how teachers unions
53:59 are making anything better. And I mean, like anything, because per capita per student,
54:06 we give more funding to education in this country per student than most of the rest of the world
54:15 does. And yet our educational outcomes are paltry compared to countries all over the planet,
54:22 whether it's reading, writing, mathematics, science, engineering, anything else. We suck at all those
54:30 things. And all we get told by these teacher unions is we need more money. Oh, do we? To the
54:37 people you real heroes that were advocating that we don't need to have children in school for two
54:42 years so that you could teach zoom school in your underwear. Sorry. Again, I'm not going to get off
54:48 on another tangent about teachers, but it's like they're not a homogenous group of heroes.
54:52 And teachers unions are not here for the public health of the students education. They're simply
54:57 not. They're a political group that overwhelmingly we're talking like 90 95 votes one way with Democrats
55:06 that always want more funding for something that sucks, which is our education system here in this
55:11 country. So how are these teachers unions helping? Seriously, if I'm ignorant on this issue, I want
55:17 to know. But my big takeaway on this one is racism today does not fix racism from yesterday,
55:24 which is duh to anybody that knows anything about words and how they're supposed to hit your brain
55:30 and make sense. You can't do something that's racist today to take care of something that's
55:36 racist that happened back in the day, even if it's you. So me doing something racist today
55:42 doesn't fix racism that happened yesterday, but it certainly doesn't fix fix racism that happened
55:46 decades and decades ago to people that weren't even related to you. Okay. So for Christians,
55:52 I want to remind you about something from James two. Okay. So the sin of partiality. So let's talk
55:57 about James two. I'm going to read verses one through 13 here. My brothers, show no partiality
56:03 as you hold the faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory for if a man wearing a gold ring
56:08 and fine clothing comes into your assembly and a poor man and shabby clothing also comes in.
56:12 And if you pay attention to the one who wears the fine clothing and say, you sit here in a good
56:16 place, while you say to the poor man, you stand over there or sit down at my feet. Have you not
56:21 then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?
56:25 Listen, my beloved brothers has not God chosen that you that who that those who are poor in the world
56:31 to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he has promised to those who love him,
56:35 but you have dishonored the poor man are not rich the ones who oppress you and the ones who drag
56:41 into the court. Are they not the ones who blaspheme the honorable name by which you were called?
56:46 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, you shall love your neighbor
56:50 as yourself, you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted
56:56 by the law as transgressors for whoever keeps the whole law, but fails to in one point has become
57:02 guilty of all of it. For he who said do not commit adultery also said do not murder. If you do not
57:06 commit adultery, but do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. So speak and so act
57:12 as those who are to be judged under the law of liberty for judgment is without mercy to one who
57:17 has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment. Okay, so that is a good word for any of you out
57:26 there. Christians that maybe have a little bit of racial animus in your heart, maybe it comes from
57:30 your upbringing, comes from your background. You look at people in certain ways. If they look a
57:35 certain way, you treat people differently and act differently around people. What we're hearing
57:39 here from the half brother of Jesus is that that is the sin of partiality that you should not do
57:44 that with individuals. And that's also a good explanation of the gospel there that there's
57:48 total depravity here, right? If you break any law, which all of us break tons of laws every
57:52 single day, God's laws, that that's not a good thing. And that you are going to be judged by the
57:56 law of the transgressors and you need a way out of that, hence the gospel, the blood of Christ.
58:01 But again, this kind of goes back to, you know, Thomas old book, you know, talking about the quest
58:05 for cosmic justice on this planet. If you don't have a Judeo Christian ethic and you don't think
58:12 that at some point every tear that's ever been shed will be picked back up that every horrible
58:18 thing that's ever been done will be as blotted out as if it never happened. If you don't believe
58:21 that then you demand that there be justice on this planet and you get that through reparations,
58:27 you get that by being racist towards people today. And you pretend as if that's going to affect
58:33 racism that was enacted decades, if not centuries, behind that time period. Okay. But again, guys,
58:39 racism today does not fix racism from yesterday. We must avoid the sin of partiality.
58:45 All right, next quick hitter here flash mobs in California trade in dancing for looting,
58:50 because every time I hear flash mob, I think people are going to just start dancing in the
58:53 food court at the mall. But apparently not anymore. So this is according to NBC Los Angeles video
58:58 from security cameras inside a 7 11 captured a chaotic scene when a crowd of people ransacked
59:02 the store during a street takeover in Los Angeles's Harbor Gateway area. The large crowd gathered
59:07 for the street takeover on Monday night in the Harbor Gateway area swarmed the store at the corner
59:11 of Figaroa street and El Segundo Boulevard in a frenzy of looting and vandalism. Security camera
59:16 video showed the large crowd gathering outside the store inside the situation quickly turned into
59:20 mayhem. When dozens of people emptied shelves through snacks and beverages and left the merchandise
59:25 and left with merchandise rather, police described the scene as flash mob looting. At least two people
59:30 jumped over the front counter and threw items and two others in the crowd. A store employee
59:34 decisively outnumbered hid in the back room of the store fearing for his life police set.
59:39 The suspects are facing multiple charges to include grand theft looting and vandalism.
59:43 The LAPD said in a statement, we are seeking the public's health and identifying persons observed
59:47 in the video committing these acts. No arrests were reported early Thursday. This was Thursday
59:51 of last week. So guys, you know, in the video, if you watch these videos, which you'll be able to
59:54 check it out in the show notes, these people look like animals. Like this looks like some,
59:58 some crazy, like feeding frenzy thing like it just they don't even look like people. It's just
1:00:02 nonsense. I mean, people have all shapes and sizes and colors just acting in an absolute
1:00:06 fool inside of this 7 11. But here's the thing. The LAPD and I've read some of their responses.
1:00:12 They're pretending to be outraged about this. But we all know that they're not going to do
1:00:18 anything about it. And you know why? Because even if they did, the people that they would
1:00:24 arrest would likely never go to jail for it. Because you have DAs in this community that,
1:00:30 you know, they've bought in this idea that, you know, our prisons are overflowing with people that
1:00:33 just were accidentally doing crimes. And now they're serving a 20 year sentence, which is just not
1:00:37 the case in almost every single one of these scenarios. But they know, like, why if you're
1:00:41 an LAPD officer, why would you have, even if you came upon this situation, are you going to walk
1:00:46 in there and do anything about that situation? No, because you know, potentially your entire life
1:00:51 is on the line. Because other people pointed this out. But let's say you go in there and you try to
1:00:55 stop this. And in the process of doing so, you have to rub up rough up somebody in order to
1:01:00 arrest them and subdue them. But that person happens to be part of a protected class.
1:01:04 Maybe it's a black man, or maybe it's an LGBTQ person or some non binary widget or something like
1:01:09 that that you're arresting. Now, all of a sudden, you could be brought up on charges or something
1:01:14 like that, or you could lose your livelihood or get docked by people on Twitter or something like
1:01:18 that, just for doing your job. So most of these people are gonna be like, eh, they're just gonna
1:01:22 turn a blind eye to it. So a big takeaway from this one is criminals will continue to perform
1:01:27 criminal acts if they do not believe they're gonna be punished. Because punishment is a deterrent.
1:01:31 I keep hearing that, you know, ah, you know, the death penalty is not a deterrent. We should
1:01:35 get rid of it. Oh, these these long, you know, mandatory sentences are not a deterrent. We should
1:01:39 get rid of it. But then they cite no data whatsoever to prove that. Because it's a non falsifiable
1:01:44 claim like what I was talking about with Joe Biden, they're like, Oh, you know, good thing he's got,
1:01:48 you know, a very mild case of the C word, you know, good thing he got for these V words.
1:01:53 It's like, uh, well, that's not falsifiable. You can't falsify that. You can't go back in time
1:01:58 and not give him the V words for the C word and then compare it to where he is today. Like you
1:02:02 can't do that. Same thing here. You're saying these things aren't a deterrent, but we can't go back
1:02:06 in time and say that and say that there would be more or less of a particular crime. But there was
1:02:11 something in a debate that I did recently when I was talking about gun violence and different
1:02:14 things like that, which I didn't really get to get into. But I gathered some scriptures about
1:02:17 stiff penal sanctions. Okay. So I'm not going to be able to get the context of all these verses,
1:02:22 but let me read these here to you. Ecclesiastes 8, 11, because the sentence against an evil deed
1:02:27 is not executed speedily. The heart of the children of man is fully set to do evil.
1:02:32 Then we have Proverbs 28, five evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the Lord
1:02:37 understand it completely. And then, you know, one chapter later, Proverbs 29, four by justice,
1:02:42 a king builds up the land, but he who exacts gifts tears it down. And then we have Hebrews
1:02:47 22. For since the message declared by angels proved to be reliable, and every transgression
1:02:52 or disobedience received a just retribution. Okay, but I really want to focus on the Ecclesiastes
1:02:58 8 11. Because the sentence against an evil deed is not executed speedily, the heart of the children
1:03:03 of man is fully set to do evil. I think this applies with a lot of things. So if you think
1:03:08 about I brought up the death penalty, so you have somebody they are clearly guilty of this particular
1:03:12 crime. You give them the the processes to appeal just in case there was an issue with that initial
1:03:18 trial. But then we have these people that will sit on death row for decades and decades living
1:03:23 on the government dime, the taxpayer dime. And then they get there at the very last minute,
1:03:29 the governor will commute their sentence and a lot of these cases. And now they're going to be living
1:03:32 for decades and decades and decades more, even though the just penalty for their actions was a
1:03:38 speedy death. But we don't do that anymore. So I would argue that if somebody were to commit a
1:03:45 murder and they're arrested for that, they get a quick trial, right, where it proves their guilt
1:03:49 or innocence. They get one, they get one chance to go and do another trial. They get they get one
1:03:57 time to do that. And then afterwards, they need to be put to death immediately. And that's not to
1:04:03 say we shouldn't share the gospel with these people because I can already hear people saying
1:04:06 that. Well, what do you mean? You need to give them more time to accept Christ, even though, you
1:04:09 know, Calvinists wouldn't even say that. It's like, ah, they're either elected or they're not. So good
1:04:11 luck. Like, but beyond that, it's like, why do we, we have these processes where it's like,
1:04:17 they get to go back to court and back to court and back to court and nothing changes. And then
1:04:21 they stay on death row for years and years and years longer. And then they just get commuted anyway.
1:04:26 Like, if you have stiffer penal sanctions, again, I know death penalty is kind of in its entire
1:04:31 different thing. But if these people that are doing felonious acts or something like that,
1:04:36 if they are stiffly penalized for these things, that will have an effect on people that know them.
1:04:41 Knuckleheads that are around them, guys are in the gang with them or doing the organized crime
1:04:44 with them, right? It's a big deal. So again, we can't expect for crimes to start going down
1:04:50 in all these typically blue cities across the country, unless we can get the DAs out of there
1:04:54 that aren't punishing them. It seems pretty simple for my view. All right, last quick
1:04:59 at her here. Serena Williams thinks it's unfair that she's a woman. Okay. So Serena Williams is
1:05:06 genuinely one of the greatest sports success stories that we've ever seen in mainstream sports.
1:05:12 So obviously you should know the story like her and her sister Venus, you know, they're from
1:05:16 Compton and you know, trying to get into a sport that was dominated by people that didn't look like
1:05:20 them. Tennis was very, very rough. But Serena Williams, especially literally made it and has turned
1:05:28 herself into a mega millionaire, an international superstar because of how gifted from God she is,
1:05:35 how hard she worked, how resilient she was, and how well she performed under pressure.
1:05:41 I mean, let's just let's just run the stats here. So this is all women's tennis. Obviously,
1:05:46 23 singles, grand slam titles, 14 doubles, grand slam titles, two mixed doubles, grand slam titles,
1:05:53 one Olympic gold medal and singles, three Olympic gold medals and doubles, and her career earnings
1:05:58 just from the women's tennis association, the WTA, 94,588,910 dollars. That's just from playing
1:06:08 tennis. Okay, that doesn't get into the Gatorade sponsorships. That doesn't get into Nike doesn't
1:06:13 get into anything else, just from WTA, almost $95 million. Okay. So she is easily and without
1:06:18 debate, the greatest of all time women's tennis player. Now, you can go and miss me with all this
1:06:24 goat of tennis overall nonsense. I literally saw that. I forget where I was, but you know, I was
1:06:28 think it was at lunch. And in the background, they were debating on ESPN, of course, on ESPN,
1:06:32 which is the MSNBC of sports, they were debating whether or not she was the goat of tennis just
1:06:37 overall, right? Even though she admitted before that if she had to play against men that she would
1:06:44 get destroyed because in practice, she would constantly get absolutely destroyed in straight
1:06:49 sets to kids that were college tennis players, male tennis players that weren't even that good,
1:06:56 not highly ranked, not highly touted. No one in the tennis world even knows their name and she
1:07:00 would get destroyed by them. Okay. So we need to put that to the side. But apparently,
1:07:04 even after all that, all that money, you know, all the titles, all the awards, all the accolades,
1:07:10 you might be shocked to find out that Serena Williams is in fact a victim.
1:07:14 So let's go to this by the daily wire. Superstar Serena Williams announced her retirement from
1:07:19 tennis and said that nothing is a sacrifice for her as she explained that she's choosing building
1:07:24 her family rather than her tennis resume. In a lengthy article written by the 40 year old
1:07:29 tennis superstar for Vogue, Serena talked about how much she will miss the part of her that played
1:07:33 tennis, but that she's come to a moment in her life when she wants to grow her family. It doesn't
1:07:37 want to be pregnant again as an athlete. Williams and husband Alexis Oh, Hanian. Don't, don't
1:07:43 say that. I'm sorry, share a daughter Alexis Olympia who turns five this month. Now, this is a quote
1:07:48 from her and this is where everybody's kind of, you know, kind of getting all these, these thoughts
1:07:51 and ideas on what she's saying. So believe me, I never wanted to have to choose between tennis
1:07:56 and a family. The tennis star wrote, I don't think it's fair. If I were a guy, I wouldn't be riding
1:08:01 this because I'd be out there playing in winning while my wife was doing the physical labor of
1:08:06 expanding our family. Maybe I'd be more of a Tom Brady. If I had the opportunity, she added,
1:08:11 don't get me wrong. I love being a woman and I love every second of being pregnant with Olympia.
1:08:16 I was one of those annoying women who adored being pregnant and working until the day that I had
1:08:20 to report to the hospital. Although things got super complicated on the other side. And she
1:08:24 shared that if if I have to choose between building my tennis resume and building my family, I choose
1:08:29 the latter. As she explained that, when it comes to her daughter, nothing is a sacrifice for her.
1:08:34 It all just makes sense, she said. Okay. So obviously, I agree with that. You know,
1:08:39 if it's between building your your resume for your job versus, you know, building your family,
1:08:43 the latter always makes sense there. You know, her kind of wanting to, you know, be there for
1:08:49 a family and how that's a great idea. Like obviously, obviously, that's a great thing.
1:08:52 But she's literally lamenting her biggest superpower as a human being and as a woman,
1:08:58 which it's highly transphobic of her to talk about the fact that she loves being a woman,
1:09:03 because you know, what is that? But she's lamenting her ability to grow and care for a child and her
1:09:10 family. Again, go back to her own words here. I don't think it's fair. If I were a guy, I wouldn't
1:09:16 be writing this because I'd be out there playing and winning while my wife was doing the physical
1:09:20 labor of expanding our family. So the big takeaway on this one is guys, no matter how privileged you
1:09:26 are in life, as long as you check at least one intersectional box, you too can be a massive victim.
1:09:33 Isn't that great? Isn't that great news that you can literally be one of the most privileged
1:09:37 human beings on the planet, one of the most tremendous success stories and one of the greatest
1:09:42 athletes, a tremendous example to young girls everywhere and all that stuff. But gosh darn it,
1:09:48 she just weren't a woman. She just wishes that her husband could carry that baby and deal with
1:09:54 a physical labor of expanding our family. But that's where we are now. That's where we are now in
1:10:00 culture. That's where we are now in society. We're lamenting the good things that God gave to us
1:10:04 as a gift. God gave women the ability to carry children as a gift. God gave men the ability to
1:10:11 protect and provide for a family as a gift. And we look at it as if, gosh, if I were to do it,
1:10:19 I would do it this way. And we're going to keep seeing that drift in culture. So we'll be here
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