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- This is "On Daunted Life" a man's podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Remember those who are in prison,
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as though in prison with them,
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since you are also in the body,
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that is Hebrews 13-3.
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Guys, thank you so much for listening to today's show.
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I will tell you right from the jump.
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I normally have throat issues.
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You guys know a lot about that.
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I also have strep throat,
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and I also haven't fully recovered
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from speaking for like three hours over the weekend.
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Okay, so I'll get more into the speaking over three hours,
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but if I'm a little bit more subdued in this episode,
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I'm actually gonna try to be a little bit more subdued
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So, I'm skipping quick hitters again.
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Now, I know a lot of you guys really grew
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to love the quick hitters
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and we are certainly bringing them back.
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I'm not getting rid.
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See, I'm like coughing all over the place.
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Got to get a drink.
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We're not getting rid of the quick hitter segment.
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But again, with my throat surgery coming up,
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I literally feel like, have you ever had a hoopty?
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Has anyone had a hoopty out there
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where you're literally about to get a new car?
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And as you pull your hoopty up to the dealership
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to pick up your new vehicle,
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then the engine finally explodes
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and there's fire and crap everywhere.
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That's what I feel like is happening with my throat.
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So, April 10th is my surgery,
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but I feel like I'm literally gonna drive this thing
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into the ground and just put all the faith in God
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and the surgeons that they can fix my throat.
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(coughing)
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So guys, you all are just gonna have to deal with it.
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I mean, keep clearing my throat today,
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keep taking treats, you know,
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things to get drinks and little breaks and stuff like that.
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But I promise, I promise, I promise.
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Before my surgery, we will do quick hitters.
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I literally have a list on my phone
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of all these ridiculous stories that I want to talk about.
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And I just haven't had time
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and I certainly don't have the miles on my throat right now.
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But I really, really wanted to come to you and talk today,
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even though I'm sick, even though I got strep,
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even though I probably shouldn't be talking.
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I've got to talk about what I did over the weekend
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and why we're naming this episode,
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preaching behind bars, you can still be free.
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And so, I'm just gonna tell you this story
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because it's a very, very important thing.
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And over the weekend, it was literally,
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I feel like one of the seminal experiences
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that I've had in my life
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and something I feel very, very thankful
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that I was able to experience.
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So follow along with me.
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But last year at some point,
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I meant to go back and look for
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whenever the very first consultation was,
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but I wanna say it was late summer, early fall,
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something like that.
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I was reached out to by a chaplain
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of a federal penitentiary or a prison.
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I'm not sure all the terminology,
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but it's a max security or medium security prison
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in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania.
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And what he wanted to do is he wanted to invite me
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or he did invite me to come and speak
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to the prisoners there at that penitentiary
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or at that prison.
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And so, the thing about it is
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is you can't actually be paid as far as I understand.
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You can't, sorry, excuse me.
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You can't actually be paid to go and speak at a prison.
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You have to go as an unpaid volunteer,
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but he still wanted me to come out.
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And so basically we worked it out to where it's like,
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okay, I'll speak at the prison,
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but in order to basically take care of the fee
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and the travel expenses and all that,
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that I would also speak at a mens of it while I was there.
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And so, it was kind of one of those things
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where I get reached out to quite often
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about coming and speaking at things,
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but typically it's people that don't have a plan
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in place.
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So typically it'll be some guy at some random church
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that's like, oh, you know,
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what would it cost to get you to come out here?
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But they don't have any decision-making power.
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They don't have money.
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Like they don't have a budget to do an event.
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They don't have an event date picked.
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They don't have, you know, a venue.
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They don't have anything picked.
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They're just curious.
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And so I kind of gotten in this mode of like, okay,
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for every one that actually books there's gonna be 10,
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just kind of look you lose that don't really have
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anything that they're gonna actually get going.
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And with this process of booking me to go out
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and speak at Lewisburg Prison,
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I kind of felt like it was gonna be like that.
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It's like, oh, you know,
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someone was just curious and reached out
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and it's just never actually gonna work out.
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But lo and behold, it did work out.
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And so the chaplain,
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and again, I'm using his name as the chaplain
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'cause I didn't get anyone's permission
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to use their actual name here on the show,
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but he got a group of people together
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and they did some interesting things to raffle
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and raise money and bring attention to me coming out there.
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And then we booked it.
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And so it's like, okay, it's booked.
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You know, we're gonna go out there and march.
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And, you know, we'll see what this is gonna be.
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But it was basically going to be on Lewisburg,
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they've got the big house,
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which is the prison where the, you know,
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they have the guys, they've got MS-13 there.
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That's where murderers, rapists, pedophiles are all,
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you know, locked up in there.
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But then they also have a camp,
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which I didn't know this was actually a thing,
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but there's also a prison camp that these people can go to,
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which it sounds terrible.
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It sounds like Gulag Archipelago.
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But basically these people,
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they're not under lock and key necessarily.
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It's like a camp that's outside the walls,
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a regular prison, but they are still prisoners.
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They have to, they have to come.
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They have to be counted and those types of things,
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but it's like super low security.
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So they wanted me to speak at the camp.
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They wanted me to speak inside the prison.
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And then they wanted me to speak at a men's event.
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And so that was all gonna be happening in less than 24 hours.
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And so obviously as I've detailed for a lot of you guys,
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you're probably tired of hearing about it.
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But I'm like, oh my gosh, my throat and my voice
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have been just awful.
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You know, it's hard enough as evidence right now,
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it's hard enough to get through one podcast
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where I record for 45 minutes, 60 minutes by myself.
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How am I gonna speak for three hours in less than 24 hours?
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And then in addition to that,
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talk to people in between and all that.
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So that was kind of part of my preparation,
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just mentally getting to a space where it's like, okay,
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take care of your voice enough
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to where you can like, you know, with bubble gum and duct tape,
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you know, keep it together long enough to get through this.
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But then as I was preparing, it's like, okay,
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now I need to figure out exactly
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what I wanna talk to these guys about.
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And as you've probably seen on my website
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or heard me talk about before,
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I have some canned speeches that I could go and give tonight.
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Right? And so these aren't speeches that I have to practice.
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These aren't, you know, speeches that I have to like,
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really think about what I'm doing.
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I've already got my notes.
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I already have the stuff, the ideology in my brain.
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So I just go there and just do it, right?
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I just go there and make it happen.
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But something didn't feel right about that approach
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with this opportunity.
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'Cause I've never spoken at a prison before.
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I've never spoken to inmates or any of that type of thing.
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And so it was like, do I just get repackaged
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something that I've done for other crowds before?
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It didn't really feel right.
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And then about four or five days or about a week,
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we'll say a week before I was set to leave,
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to go and go to Lewisburg prison there in Pennsylvania.
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I talked to a couple of guys that I know had spoken
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before prisoners before.
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And that's Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty fame
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and pastor Joby Martin.
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And so Joby Martin has, they actually have campuses
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of Church of 11, 22 in prisons.
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I know at least two, I think, maybe three.
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And then Phil Robertson has spoken there at Angola prison.
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I think it's a max security prison down there in Louisiana.
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And so I spoke to both guys on the phone
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and kind of got their overall ideas
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about what they would do if they were in my position.
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Some things that they would talk about,
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some things that they would avoid,
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just really picking the brains of these two guys
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that have done so much in the Christian space
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and also in terms of presenting material before,
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whether written or spoken or any of those types of things.
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And after speaking with those two gentlemen,
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I was like, okay, I'm just gonna scrap the entire idea
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of what I was going to even to print this in about
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and just start from scratch
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and present something completely different
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and new to these guys.
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And so thank you to Phil Robertson and pastor Joby Martin
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for all the thoughts and preparation and time you spent
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with me just kind of giving me your overall thoughts.
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But yeah, I did scrap my speech,
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created a brand new speech
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and the entire time I had these prisoners in mind
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because the interesting thing about it is like,
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I don't really think like a prisoner
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'cause I've never been one, right?
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Now I've put myself in the mental space of, okay,
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what would have to happen to one of my family members
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where I would do something
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that could potentially land me in one of these places?
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I've obviously kind of thought through scenarios
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like that before,
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but I've never been under lock and key
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like these men have.
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But I spend quite a bit of time
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and I create some new notes and I get some new ideas
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and I just gotta tell you,
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whenever I felt like I was done with the new speech,
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I was like, this is good.
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And you guys know that feeling,
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like whenever you produce stuff,
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whether it's at work or if you're a content creator
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or something like that,
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there are times when you just create stuff
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like with me on this podcast,
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there are times when I get done recording a podcast
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and I was like, you know, it was fine.
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It's fine, I hope the people think it's fine
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'cause you know, it's just, yeah, it's whatever.
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It's acceptable.
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But then there are times when you do something
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where you're like, nope, I nailed it.
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I hit the target.
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And since I hadn't presented it yet,
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I couldn't know that it would hit the target
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or that it would have any type of impact at all.
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Essentially at that moment, it's like, okay,
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it's good enough for me to feel good,
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good about getting on a plane.
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And if I had to deliver it right at that moment,
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I'd be good to go.
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So I get the speech, good to go, get packed up,
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fly out there.
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By the way, my very first flight,
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'cause I think I flew to Charlotte
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and then from Charlotte to Pennsylvania,
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the very first flight was like the roughest flight
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of my entire life.
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And I was like, I don't know if this is a sign from God
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or if just like the weather gods,
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if doors matter or something like that, guys know,
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I don't believe in Thor, it's just a joke.
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But it was super rough ride,
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but got on the ground on the East Coast
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and then flewin' up to Scranton
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and then was picked up at the airport
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by a great guy who, you know, we were able to chat
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on our way there.
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And, you know, I'm hangin' out the night before, right?
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So it's me and a few of the guys that are, you know,
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that work at the prison and some of the guys
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that were gonna be helping with the men's event.
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And I'm trying to conserve my voice
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because I know the next day I'm speaking twice
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at the prison and so I'm just trying to kind of lay low
14:28
and all that, but then I also start feeling sick
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like the night before.
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And I'm just like, okay, this can't be happening.
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Like it can't be sick.
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Like, 'cause you're already on the road,
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you're not at home, you're not gonna sleep
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in your own bed, so you're feeling, you know,
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like you're gonna be a little bit, you know,
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out of your normal routine, but at the same time,
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you're thinking like, okay, you can make it.
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Then I start feeling sick, start feeling run down.
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And so I go back to the hotel that night,
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I just go to sleep and I wake up in the morning
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and I feel fine.
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So this is the day I'm gonna be speaking, I feel fine.
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That's great.
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But then I automatically, and had been not just that morning,
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but certainly in the days leading up to it,
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feeling the weight of the opportunity.
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Now, for any of you guys that have done prison ministry
15:09
before, perhaps you don't feel this way
15:11
or never felt this way, but I was feeling the weight
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of what I was gonna be doing.
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'Cause I knew that day that I was gonna be talking to men
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that didn't feel like they had any help.
15:24
And I was gonna be talking to men
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who would never be leaving the inside of that prison.
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And even if they did, you know, they would be,
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you know, you know how it is for recidivism
15:39
and all those different things.
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And so it's like, these are people
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that are going a particular direction
15:44
and they literally need to go in the exact opposite direction
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if they want to have any hope.
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And I could feel the weight of that.
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And typically when I speak live anywhere,
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I always feel the weight of it
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because I do some level of a gospel presentation.
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And so I'm constantly feeling the weight of, excuse me,
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of presenting that message.
16:07
But here we are, it's the morning of, you know,
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let's get ready, let's get our game face on.
16:14
And so that morning we go to the museum,
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they have a museum there.
16:18
Oh, and I guess we need to talk about
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when I got my first look at the prison,
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like this is where you get the expression in the big house.
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Guys, I'm really sorry about the cough
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and I'm trying not to do it on the mic.
16:28
But they've got this big smoke stack.
16:30
This is like a hundred year old prison.
16:31
Looks gorgeous from the outside.
16:33
And you're pulling up.
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And the one thing I remember is there's kind of this long drive
16:38
before you get to like the admin building
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to even get into the prison.
16:43
And here I am just being driven up there
16:45
because here I am a guest speaker, right?
16:47
But I think about those guys that are brought up
16:49
that long drive, they're on a bus
16:51
and they're in a jumpsuit and they've got, you know,
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handcuffs and ankle cuffs and all that.
16:57
And it's like, they're going to be in there for decades.
17:00
And they know that and how different that feeling might be.
17:04
But we go to the museum that morning,
17:06
I get a little tour, get to know some of the names,
17:09
some of the famous names of people
17:10
that have come through that prison before Al Capone
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had been in that prison.
17:13
Michael Fransese, who's a podcast interview
17:16
was released the day that I flew out to go out there
17:19
and getting to hear some of those stories,
17:26
they have like this whole like museum
17:28
of like all the different shanks they found over the years.
17:31
And so we're talking about like the sharpened toothbrushes
17:34
and you know, things of sheet metal and like glass
17:38
and all these crazy things.
17:39
And so again, this used to be one of the roughest prisons
17:43
if not the roughest prison in the United States
17:44
and they've kind of changed the culture a little bit there.
17:47
But again, it was just kind of a reminder of like,
17:49
hey, there are people in there
17:51
that don't want to see you walk out, right?
17:53
And that's just kind of the whole deal of it.
17:57
So got to take a little bit of a break, do some lunch
18:00
and then it was basically time for me to speak at the camp.
18:03
And again, the thing about the camp is guys can kind of come
18:05
and go, this is more the, I guess the white collar criminals,
18:09
I guess is how it was described to me.
18:10
So, you know, I can't really think of different white collar
18:13
or crimes or things like that.
18:14
But these are guys that, you know, three months from now
18:16
will probably aren't going to be there.
18:17
A year from now, probably aren't going to be there, okay?
18:20
And so I go in and I speak.
18:22
And we're in kind of this like classroom thing.
18:24
And the thing is, before I even start speaking,
18:27
the guys were so appreciative that I was there
18:30
because as I understand it, this was the very first time
18:33
that in a long time that anyone that wasn't law enforcement
18:36
had spoken to these guys in any capacity.
18:39
And so they were to a degree, they were just thankful,
18:41
like, oh, hey, here's this guy, here's a circus act,
18:43
like let's go and check it out.
18:45
But then there were other people that had been praying for me
18:48
for months and they were so excited to actually see me
18:51
in person and these are people that go to the church there,
18:54
you know, at the camp and, you know, they had been, you know,
18:57
praying for me beforehand, they prayed for me once I got there.
18:59
And so there's some people there that were excited to see me,
19:02
there were other guys that were excited to see me specifically
19:05
because, you know, they were Christians.
19:08
And then there were just kind of looky-loos,
19:09
there were dudes that were bored.
19:11
And so I go in there and I deliver this speech
19:14
and it's funny, I keep calling it a speech,
19:16
but they really were sermons.
19:18
Like I was preaching while I was in there.
19:20
And so I talk about, you know, the masculinity of Christ
19:25
and I talk about based on scripture,
19:27
like what type of guy he was, how he wasn't just Tinder,
19:30
but he was also tough.
19:31
And how, you know, he's a guy that's worthy of following.
19:35
And I read through Luke and I read through the crucifixion
19:38
account and then I do a gospel presentation at the end.
19:42
And, you know, I even kind of made fun of myself.
19:44
I was like, I'm from Oklahoma,
19:45
but I'm not about to be a Southern Baptist here
19:47
because it's normally like, all right, every head bowed
19:49
and every eye closed.
19:51
I was like, every head up and every set eyes open.
19:54
And I said, you know, if you think for the first time
19:57
in your life that when Jesus died on the cross
20:00
that that's somehow counted for you,
20:02
that he blotted out your sins
20:04
and now gives you a pathway to the father
20:07
and you want to put your faith in that today, stand up.
20:09
And I'd say I'm bad at like judging, you know, numbers,
20:13
but about a dozen guys in the room stood up.
20:16
And anytime you give a gospel presentation
20:19
and people respond to it, like it's overwhelming.
20:21
At least it is for me.
20:22
Maybe it's old hat for guys that have been doing it
20:24
for a long time, but it's just, it's so overwhelming.
20:27
And it's such a cool experience.
20:29
And again, I'm not in a place to know if that was legit
20:32
or if these are just guys that stand up every time
20:34
or if they're trying to look good for their parole board
20:36
or all that, like that's not really my concern.
20:38
They stood up and made a response to the gospel call.
20:41
And then I just said, all right, guys, come on up here.
20:43
Like, you know, let's, let's pray together.
20:45
And again, there's nothing magical about the prayer.
20:47
It's not the prayer that saves you.
20:48
But I just wanted to pray with these guys real quick.
20:50
And so we prayed and then, you know, gave some hugs out
20:53
and some handshakes and those things.
20:54
And they all sit down, do a little bit of Q and A.
20:56
There's a guy there named Rocky and, you know, he's very,
21:00
very cynical and skeptical about this whole thing.
21:02
And so he and I had a very fun interaction there quickly.
21:05
And then, you know, the guys needed to go.
21:07
And so we called it and, you know, I interacted
21:09
with a few of the guys and then we got out there.
21:12
And so the feeling was very interesting during the break
21:17
because I was like, okay, I've voice made it, you know,
21:19
I had laws and just ready to go.
21:21
And so I was, I was good to go, but it's like, okay,
21:22
let's just kind of relax and let's kind of, you know,
21:25
get things back going.
21:26
But then the guy was with the chaplain that was, you know,
21:28
taking care of me while I was out there, you know,
21:30
he's like, hey, let's go walk around.
21:32
Let's go show you parts of the prison.
21:33
I was like, yeah, great.
21:34
And the thing about this prison guys is now,
21:36
so we were at the camp.
21:37
Now we go inside Lewisburg, inside the big house.
21:42
And I got to tell you, it was gorgeous.
21:45
Again, this is a 100 year old prison, but it was gorgeous.
21:49
I think it was, the architecture is based off of
21:53
or mimicked like a monastery or something.
21:55
And you just couldn't believe that it was a prison.
21:58
Someone mentioned, I think it was a chaplain like,
22:00
hey, if this place ever shuts down, it needs to be, you know,
22:02
just like a protected historical site
22:05
that people can come and walk through
22:07
'cause I completely agree with that.
22:08
Just absolutely, absolutely amazing.
22:10
I don't know if there's a lot of pictures online
22:12
inside Lewisburg, but just really, really wonderful inside.
22:17
But then, again, guys, excuse me.
22:22
We go in and we start walking around the different cell blocks
22:26
because we were like trying to find a couple of guys
22:28
that were gonna help with the PA system
22:30
that was gonna be in the place where I was speaking.
22:32
And, you know, one point I kind of realized,
22:35
okay, we're just walking around a cell block in a prison.
22:39
And the only guard, if you will,
22:41
was the chaplain that I was with.
22:44
And so again, in this part of the prison,
22:46
that's the murderers, the rapists, the pedophiles,
22:49
the kidnappers, like this serious dudes walking around.
22:53
But again, they were so thankful that I was there.
22:57
They knew I was coming.
22:59
Again, several of these guys,
23:01
one guy specifically, his name was Sojourner,
23:04
he had been praying for me for months.
23:06
And then here I am, I'm there
23:09
and they're just so excited to hear what I have to say.
23:11
And I kept having guys coming up to me,
23:15
saying, "Hey, man, we're so glad you're here.
23:16
"Thanks so much for being here."
23:17
And I'm just chatting with them.
23:19
Like they're just regular dudes,
23:20
because at the end of the day, they are,
23:22
they've crossed some lines that I haven't crossed,
23:25
but they are regular dudes at the end of the day.
23:27
And so walking around the cell block,
23:30
you know, just kind of having fun interacting
23:32
with these guys, I go get a little bit of food
23:36
and they're just gonna go take a break
23:37
in the chaplain's office.
23:39
And then it came time to speak.
23:41
And I'm really feeling the weight.
23:44
Because again, I had three speeches I was gonna deliver,
23:46
one of the camp, one inside, and one at the men's event.
23:49
But the one inside Lewisburg,
23:51
that was the one that I was feeling the most weight of.
23:53
Because again, a lot of these guys are lifers.
23:58
Many of these guys will never,
24:00
ever see the outside of Lewisburg prison.
24:03
And so I really wanted to be on my game.
24:06
As mentally, physically, I wanted to be
24:08
as squared away as possible.
24:10
And so they take me into where I'm speaking
24:12
and I'm trying to describe it.
24:13
It's this huge open room, gorgeous architecture,
24:18
like these pews that are set up.
24:19
Like I can't even like, you know,
24:21
I can't even begin to describe how big it is.
24:23
There's a stage in there where, you know,
24:25
different bands and speakers have performed in.
24:27
But I was like, I don't want to be on the stage.
24:28
I want to be on the floor.
24:30
And the floor, it kind of like ramps up towards the back.
24:33
And you know, I'm just standing there waiting.
24:35
I've got, you know, a couple of inmates behind me.
24:38
And then the inmates start filing in.
24:41
And so they come in and it's just dozens and dozens
24:44
and dozens of these inmates.
24:46
Again, they weren't forced to come.
24:47
They got to choose whether or not to come hear me speak.
24:50
And they kind of spread out,
24:51
but a lot of people came and sat down at the front.
24:54
I introduced myself to a ton of them.
24:56
I wanted to kind of interact with them a little bit.
24:58
And you know, it's kind of like take a little bit of that,
25:00
sting out of it.
25:01
Like, look, I'm not any different than you.
25:03
Like let's just, let's just talk, we're just people.
25:05
And then I gave my speech or my sermon, if you will.
25:09
And it was the same one, at least in terms of the notes I had
25:14
as the one I delivered earlier in the day.
25:16
But everything was elevated, everything was.
25:19
The feeling in the room, the excitement, my nervousness,
25:25
but it wasn't like nervous, like,
25:26
oh my gosh, what's gonna happen?
25:27
But like, just like, hey, you got this,
25:30
but don't mess it up, you idiot.
25:32
Like it was one of those types of things.
25:34
And so I deliver this, I'm getting,
25:38
I'm not getting a whole lot of feedback though,
25:39
inside the prison, which is the opposite of what I thought.
25:42
I thought the dudes at the camp were gonna be more subdued
25:44
and the guys inside were gonna be a little bit more,
25:46
like animated, but it was the exact opposite.
25:48
But same thing comes at the end.
25:51
I talk about the gospel.
25:53
I present the gospel as if they had never heard it
25:55
because you can ever assume that everyone in the room
25:57
has heard it the same way that it would be presented by you.
26:01
And then I say, if you think this counts for you,
26:04
and this is the first time you're making that decision,
26:05
stand up.
26:07
Probably a couple of dozen guys stand up.
26:11
So for the day, we're at about three dozen people
26:14
that are responding to the gospel message.
26:16
And in hindsight, this is kind of funny
26:19
because all of the guards are in the back.
26:23
So it just look at it.
26:24
There's a stage behind me with two inmates behind me
26:27
helping with the PA system.
26:29
There's me on the floor.
26:31
There's lots and lots of inmates, right?
26:34
And rows and rows and rows and rows and rows of pews.
26:37
And then at the very back, there's like three guards.
26:40
So from a security standpoint,
26:42
probably not the greatest set up for me,
26:44
but I wasn't worried about me at all.
26:46
And I say at this point,
26:49
we had all these guys respond to the gospel.
26:51
I say, you guys come up here and get around me.
26:55
Like get gathered up around me,
26:57
which is weird because again,
26:59
murderers, rapists, pedophiles, rough dudes.
27:02
And so they come up and they gather around me.
27:05
And then all the guys sitting down, I was like,
27:06
you know what, these are your brothers.
27:08
Come on up here and lay hands on these guys,
27:11
not like put hands on it, but like, hey,
27:13
we're just gonna lay hands on somebody,
27:14
make sure you're touching somebody and I'm gonna pray.
27:16
Again, nothing magical about the prayer.
27:18
And so I do that.
27:20
I pray and it was,
27:22
I remember in the moment being like,
27:24
it was almost like it wasn't me talking,
27:26
which is weird to say.
27:27
It's almost like, ah, you're being extra poetic.
27:29
But it's like, it was literally like
27:31
the Holy Spirit was speaking through me.
27:33
Like I wasn't even thinking of the words
27:34
that I was gonna say.
27:35
Just kind of like, just coming out of my mouth, right?
27:38
So I say this prayer and we're done.
27:40
And this is a very regimented, right?
27:43
This isn't like the camp where the guys can kind of hang around
27:45
and do whatever they want to do.
27:46
These guys were on a time limit, right?
27:48
They needed to go back.
27:49
And so I think I answered one or two questions
27:51
and then the guys like literally had to balance.
27:53
They had to get out of there.
27:54
And it was just such an overwhelming feeling
27:59
that I went there to give a speech.
28:04
The speeches turned into preaches, right?
28:08
Or preaching, if you will.
28:09
And to have about three dozen guys,
28:13
prisoners, inmates, respond to the gospel call,
28:17
which just overwhelming.
28:19
It was such a unique feeling.
28:22
I literally feel like I kind of, you know,
28:25
ringed or wrung myself out on the proper verb tense
28:28
for these guys while I was there.
28:30
It was like, I'm going to give them everything I've got.
28:34
And I did.
28:35
And, you know, we walk out of there.
28:38
Excuse me.
28:42
Chaplain was very happy with how everything went.
28:45
The, you know, I was happy with how things went.
28:49
We get out of there, it's raining.
28:50
You know, we get out of there.
28:51
We go get some food and I go back to my hotel room
28:53
and it's like, okay, let's go to sleep.
28:55
You know, got to wake up in tomorrow
28:56
and, you know, do it all over again for a group of guys.
28:59
And I wake up the next morning, super sick.
29:03
So that was kind of, I guess the front end
29:05
of what I'm dealing with now, a strap
29:06
and all kinds of other things.
29:08
And so what I was supposed to do
29:10
is I was supposed to go to this venue
29:11
where they're doing this men's event
29:12
that they've been planning for months and months and months
29:14
put a bunch of effort into it.
29:16
And I was supposed to interact with a bunch of people, right?
29:18
Interact with the guys, interact with their families,
29:20
kind of just hang out, be around for a few hours, you know,
29:23
be around for the lunch.
29:24
They, they, you know, smoked up a couple of whole pigs
29:27
and, you know, it was just gonna be a whole whole deal.
29:30
And I just messaged the guy at the morning.
29:32
I was like, look, dude, I feel awful.
29:36
And my voice is like destroyed,
29:37
not just from speaking twice the day before
29:39
and all the other speaking I did,
29:41
but like something's going all with my throat.
29:43
Like I need y'all to pick me up like just in time
29:46
to get me to the venue in time to speak.
29:48
Like that's, that's how bad I feel.
29:50
And so he's like, absolutely.
29:51
And you know, I just kind of rest there in the hotel.
29:55
I try to get some fluids and just try to get a little bit.
29:58
And, you know, I take a shower, I get dressed,
30:00
I assume I'll feel better, you know, after I get food
30:02
and a little bit of an energy drink
30:04
and different things like that.
30:05
But I'm still wiped.
30:07
No energy.
30:08
I've got no pep and it's like, dude, whenever I speak,
30:11
especially when I speak live, like I try to do a lot
30:13
of things off the top of the head.
30:14
I try to be, you know, funny and interact with the crowd.
30:16
And I'm feeling none of that right now.
30:18
And out of nowhere, I think about one of my main Jiu Jitsu
30:22
coaches is named Livingston.
30:24
And so he's one of our black belts.
30:25
He's also done a lot of fighting and different things like that.
30:28
And for whatever reason, I'm like, call Livingston
30:32
and have him give you a pep talk.
30:35
And this is a really busy guy.
30:36
He does a lot of traveling on the weekends.
30:38
And so I'm like, ah, I'm gonna call him.
30:38
He's not gonna answer.
30:39
And what do you know, two rings in?
30:41
Hey man, what's up?
30:42
And so I, I very calmly and a very calm voice.
30:44
I go, hey man, I'm really sick.
30:48
I woke up sick, but I'm here in Pennsylvania.
30:50
I've already done two speeches.
30:51
I have one more to go, but I got nothing in the tank.
30:55
And that night was the night that John Jones
30:57
was gonna be fighting Sir O'Gone for the heavyweight title.
30:59
And I was like, so I need two things from you, Livingston.
31:01
Number one, I need you to tell me
31:02
who you think is gonna win the championship fight.
31:05
And number two, I need you to like be my MMA coach.
31:08
I need you to get me fired up.
31:10
I need you to like, you know, get me ready
31:11
for what I'm about to go do.
31:13
And so he just immediately starts telling me why he thinks,
31:16
you know, John Jones is gonna win the fight,
31:18
but you know, some things are all gone, it's probably gonna do.
31:21
And then he flipped a switch and turned into an MMA coach.
31:24
And I can't remember exactly what he said.
31:28
I can't, but all I remember is sitting there
31:31
in the chair in this hotel room,
31:33
and being like, oh, you know, kind of just slumped over
31:36
like not feeling well.
31:37
And as soon as he went into MMA coach mode,
31:40
I start like, yeah, yeah.
31:43
Like I'm like, you know, pat on the floor, pat my legs.
31:46
He legitimately got me all fired up.
31:48
And he was basically like, you're out there to do a job.
31:50
And that's exactly what you're going to go to.
31:52
Go out, you've got a calling from God, make it happen.
31:55
And I was like trying not to like yell,
31:57
but as soon as he was done, I go,
31:59
that's exactly what I needed.
32:00
Thank you very much.
32:01
I'll talk to you later.
32:02
And then he just hung up and moved on with his day.
32:04
And so I'm feeling a little bit better.
32:06
I get picked up, I go out to the venue
32:08
and I get to interact with the guys.
32:09
The thing that was odd about this event that I found is like,
32:11
from the moment I walked in, it was like,
32:14
I think I finally got to feel like what it felt like
32:15
whenever you're like the hottest girl at prom
32:18
and like everybody's looking at you
32:19
when you walk in the room, that's kind of what I felt like.
32:21
I was like, okay, here I am, I'm wearing all black.
32:23
Like I normally do when I speak.
32:24
And it was like, everyone's looking at me like,
32:26
oh, is that the guy?
32:27
And so that was kind of funny.
32:28
But I introduced myself to a bunch of people
32:30
and we had a good time.
32:32
Now, one of the things they did to help raise money
32:33
for the event was to do a gun raffle.
32:36
And it's really funny, they bought me a ticket
32:38
for the gun raffle like months before.
32:40
And I remember telling them, I was like, yeah, you know,
32:41
I want to get a new 300 win mag or a six, five creed more
32:44
and different things like that.
32:46
And wouldn't you know it, I won the raffle
32:48
for a six, five creed more?
32:50
Like in the whole time, I'm like, surely not.
32:53
Like please don't let me win.
32:55
Like they're doing this like slow lowering of the numbers
32:58
like to where it's like, all right, everybody's standing up
33:00
and then they slowly have people be eliminated
33:01
and it sit down and I'm like, oh my gosh,
33:03
I'm about to win this thing.
33:04
They're going to boo me out of here.
33:05
Like they're going to string me up outside.
33:08
Like you can't be the speaker, you know,
33:10
the center of attention and when one of the guns
33:13
that is going to be given out.
33:14
And so here I am, I win this firearm.
33:17
And I'm like, as I'm walking up there, they're all laughing,
33:19
but I'm like booing myself, throwing two thumbs down
33:21
and all that.
33:22
So that was a cool thing.
33:23
So that'll hopefully get to me before too long.
33:25
But then I get up there and I deliver a speech to those guys
33:29
or you can call it a sermon different than the one
33:31
that was in the prison, some similar elements,
33:33
but again, talking about the masculinity of Christ.
33:36
And I'm getting a lot of responses.
33:37
You know, this is a Christian crowd, a male Christian crowd
33:42
and they were really responding when I was talking
33:43
about the feminization of the church,
33:46
how Jesus is presented in a very effeminate way
33:49
in artwork and music and those things.
33:51
And then at the end, I'm like, okay,
33:54
I'm going to do a gospel call again.
33:56
Because even though you're purportedly
33:58
in a room full of Christians,
33:59
you never know who you're talking to, okay?
34:03
And so I do a gospel call and three guys
34:05
respond to the gospel for the first time.
34:08
Varying ages as well.
34:11
And so I had those guys come up,
34:14
had everybody else in the room gather around them
34:15
and we prayed for them.
34:16
Again, nothing magical about the prayer.
34:18
And that was a really cool moment.
34:20
But I can tell you, as soon as I was done praying
34:25
for those guys, I was like done, done.
34:27
It was like every last bit of energy that, you know,
34:29
I had in my system or that Livingston got me fired up for
34:32
beer, like powered down, big time.
34:35
And so I'm looking at my watch and it's about time
34:38
to get out of there because I had to get to the airport.
34:41
And, you know, I'm doing a little bit interactions,
34:43
but ultimately I get to the airport, I travel home.
34:46
And there was a little bit of delays.
34:48
I had to stay one extra day in Chicago,
34:50
but I eventually got home.
34:52
And so it was such an unbelievable experience.
34:54
I'm very thankful for my time out there in Pennsylvania.
34:58
And specifically, I do want to give some thank yous out.
35:01
Again, I don't know what types of names I can use,
35:03
but to Chaplain Wallace and to his wife.
35:05
Thank you all very much for being such gracious host
35:08
to me while I was out there.
35:09
Chaplain Wallace, you obviously put a lot of time
35:12
and effort into the event and a lot of thought
35:15
into what would go down and that was evident.
35:17
So I'm very, very thankful for y'all.
35:19
Also to everyone that helped with the men's event.
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There were people that were, you know,
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driving Miss Daisy, they were driving me around.
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Making sure I got to where I needed to go.
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The guys that, you know, there were people that drove in
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from like Ohio just to come hear me speak in Pennsylvania.
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So like getting the word out and all the marketing
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that was done in that area was great.
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To everyone that helped with the prism
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that walked me around and showed me different things,
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people that checked me in and out,
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people that kept us safe and made sure
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we were all squared away.
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Thank you so much to them.
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To the inmates of Lewisburg camp.
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So thankful for you guys.
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I hope that I can connect with you guys
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in a different context down the road.
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Also to the inmates of the big house, inside the walls.
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I hope to see you guys again.
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'Cause I know for a lot of you guys,
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you know, the two guys that were helping with the PA system,
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both of them were on like 20 year terms or sentences,
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I guess you could say.
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And you know, they've got like seven, eight years left.
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And they're talking about it, hopefully like, yeah, you know,
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seven or eight more years and we're out of here.
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And it's like, man, that's two undergraduate degrees,
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you know what I mean?
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And they're talking about it like, hey, we're almost there.
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I hope to see you all again.
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Hope that's not the last time I'm out there
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to speak in Lewisburg.
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I would certainly accept an invitation to do that again.
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So if y'all will have me, I'll certainly do that.
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But before we get out of here,
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I do want to kind of give some of my overall thoughts about this,
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but also, you know, bring some things out in scripture
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that I noticed.
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But again, I definitely want to go back speak at Lewisburg.
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I would love to speak at more prisons.
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So I don't think undaunted life is going to shift
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to be a prison ministry necessarily.
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But this podcast can be listened to and viewed
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by just about anybody in the world,
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but I don't think there's really any way for the guys
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in the prisons to hear any of this message.
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So they can't just go to YouTube and watch this.
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They can't just go to Apple Podcast on their phone
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and check me out.
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So being able to take this message directly to them
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is something I'd certainly like to do more of.
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And so interested in doing that,
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so for guys that have connections
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to federal penitentiaries or prisons,
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you know, what these guys did is like,
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okay, they brought me out to speak at the prison,
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but then, you know, I was able to be paid
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through a men's event kind of a deal.
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So there are different ways to do this
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that I think would be very, very interesting.
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And what's funny about this situation
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is just kind of another overall thought.
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Sometimes you just have to say yes,
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and then you have to ask yourself,
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so what's the question?
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Or ask the people, you know, you're talking to,
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so what's the question?
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Because I said yes to the opportunity of speaking
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in the prison before we figured out any of the logistics.
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Before I knew how many times I was going to be talking,
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before I knew the types of guys I was going to be talking to,
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before I knew really anything, I just said yes,
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'cause it just felt like God was saying,
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you need to do this.
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And I was like, all right, yes, Lord, let's figure it out.
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But as I was reflecting on my time there at Lewisburg,
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I was reminded of a couple of things from scripture
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that involved Paul and also involved in prison.
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So there's one time in Paul's life,
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so he's in prison and he's writing a letter to Timothy.
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And so he wrote, he wrote two letters,
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so that's first and second Timothy.
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And I would consider Paul to be,
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excuse me, guys, I know that's annoying.
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I would consider Paul to be a very, very manly man
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for a myriad of reasons.
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But I especially think it's because of how he
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comported himself at the beginning of his second letter
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to his people Timothy.
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So at the time of him writing that second letter,
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Paul is languishing in a Roman prison.
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This is likely a second stint in a Roman prison.
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And he's awaiting his coming execution.
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He does not assume that he is ever going to see
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the outside of this Roman prison.
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So Paul is absolutely up against it,
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spiritually, mentally and physically.
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We always talk about spiritual, mental and physical resilience.
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So spiritually, he knows his execution and death are imminent.
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And for a lot of people, you know,
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perhaps you've noticed this with people in your life
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that were, excuse me, their death was coming
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and they knew their death was coming,
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maybe they were terminal.
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Those people get very, very spiritual
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because they know that there's something on the other side
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and that they need to reckon
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with what exactly that's going to look like for them.
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Mentally, in his letter, you know,
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Paul talks about how several of his supporters
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had abandoned him during this time.
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So imagine being like the guy, you know, Paul, the apostle,
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and then now you're in prison and all your supporters go away.
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Had to be very, very mentally taxing.
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And physically, I mean, he's in an ancient Roman prison.
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Those things weren't exactly known
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for their spa-like qualities, right?
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And at this point, he had been flogged multiple times,
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beaten multiple times, shipwrecked, snakebit,
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like the whole gamut, right?
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So Paul is going through spiritual, mental and physical anguish.
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But then he still manages to show resilience
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to share this unbelievably beautiful message
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with his people, Timothy.
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And specifically, I'm talking about second Timothy one
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versus one through 14, but just to kind of conserve
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my voice, I'll read verses 12 through 14 here.
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But I am not ashamed for I know whom I have believed
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and I am convinced that he is able to guard
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until that day what has been entrusted to me.
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Follow the pattern of the sound words
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that you have heard from me in the faith
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and love that are in Christ Jesus.
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And by the Holy Spirit who dwells within us,
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guard the good deposit and trust to you.
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So again, he's languishing in prison,
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knowing he's about to be executed
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and knowing that his supporters are not there for him anymore.
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And he writes that.
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I gotta be honest, I'm a very pessimistic guy.
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And when things aren't going well, I lament.
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And I'm like, "Oh, this sucks.
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"No, no, what I've done deserves this blah, blah."
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And I start to sound really weak in those moments.
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But look at that resilience.
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Look at that resolve.
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But also we see in the book of Acts
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about Paul and Silas being in prison.
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So I'm gonna read from Acts 16 and I'll start in verse 23.
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But just to set it up, they were mobbed, Paul and Silas.
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They were mobbed for preaching the gospel, Jesus Christ.
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They were stripped, they were beaten.
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They were beaten with wooden rods apparently very, very severely.
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And then they're just kind of tossed in prison.
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So Acts 16 starting in verse 23.
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The jailer was ordered to make sure they didn't escape.
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So the jailer put them in the inner dungeon
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and clamped their feet in stocks.
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Around midnight, Paul and Silas were praying
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and singing hymns to God
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and the other prisoners were listening.
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Suddenly there was a massive earthquake
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and the prison was shaken to its foundation.
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All the doors immediately flew open
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and the chains of every prisoner fell off.
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The jailer woke up to see the prison doors wide open.
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He assumed the prisoners had escaped
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so he drew his sword to kill himself.
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But Paul shouted to him, "Stop.
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Don't kill yourself.
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We are all here."
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The jailer called for lights and ran to the dungeon
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and fell down trembling before Paul and Silas.
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Then he brought them out and asked,
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"Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
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They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus
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and you will be saved along with everyone in your household."
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And they shared the word of the Lord with him
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and with all who lived in his household.
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Even at that hour of night,
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the jailer cared for them and washed their wounds.
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Then he and everyone in his household
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were immediately baptized.
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He brought them into his house and set a meal before them
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and he and his entire household rejoiced
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because they all believed in God.
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So I'm gonna go back to the main message
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that I gave to the men that were in prison.
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Because again, I wasn't getting a lot of response.
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You know, there's not amends
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and it wasn't a crazy charismatic experience.
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But there was one specific quote
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that I got directly from Phil Roberts
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and I still have the notes sitting here right in front of me
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'cause this is something that he said
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when he's presented in prison.
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And you know, he spoke to me for 10, 15 minutes
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and then he goes, "Kyle, here's the point.
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And this is what you need to tell these guys."
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And so I just basically parroted it directly to these men.
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I told them, "You can be under lock and key,
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but you can still be free."
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And in the three presentations I did when I was out there,
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but especially in the prisons, inside the prison.
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That, it was like, it got everyone woken up.
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That's where you got amends.
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That's where you got the, "Ugh, you can be under lock and key,
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but you can still be free."
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Because I told these men that they had crossed
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the lines of man and certain lines that they had crossed
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came with laws and came with punishments
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and that's why they were in there.
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That's why they were assigned a number
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and assigned to a cell because they crossed the laws of man.
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But I told these men that all of us have crossed
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the lines of God, all of us.
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All of us have fallen short of the glory of God,
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all in all means all.
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So I told these men, there is no difference between you and I.
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In terms of the lines that we've crossed
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that God set forth, we've crossed different lines of man
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but the same lines of God.
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And we must have an intercessor between us and the Father
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for us to be made holy and righteous.
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And so God sent his own son here to him who knew no sin,
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made him to be sin so that we would have
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the righteousness of God, us.
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And that's the sacrifice that counts.
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Not where you reside on this planet,
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geographically inside or geographically outside of prison.
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What matters is where you put your trust
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and where you find your identity.
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And I put my trust in the sacrifice of Jesus,
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a real person that was also part of the triune God
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that was sent here to die
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so that I would have a way to get to the Father.
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And I said, if you put your faith in that,
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you will be saved.
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And if you don't, you will not.
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And that's it.
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You can be under lock and key, but you can still be free.
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You can be freer than any of these people
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walking around outside these doors, if you have Christ.
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And so that's what I told them.
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And that's what they responded to.
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And I'm gonna tell the same thing to you.
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To someone listening to this right now,
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of which there are many, some of you,
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for the first time are feeling like,
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the sacrifice of Jesus, you knew the story.
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You've heard this stuff before.
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Oh yeah, you know, Middle Eastern Jew, you know,
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was arrested and then beaten and flogged.
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And then he was killed on a Roman cross.
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He was crucified and then he was dead
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and he was buried and supposedly he woke up
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and he was resurrected and all these different things.
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But for the first time in your life, for whatever reason,
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you feel like that counted for you.
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That somehow, you can't explain it.
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You don't have a theological degree to explain it in detail,
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but you think that that counted for you.
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That when Jesus was sent here by God
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to die for the sins of humanity,
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that that counted for you.
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And you wanna put your faith in that today.
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And I would tell you, wherever you are right now,
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unless you're driving, don't be dangerous.
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But if that's you, I want you to stand up.
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I want you to stand up.
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I want you to respond to the call of Christ.
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I want you to respond to the gospel
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because that's the good news.
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You are depraved.
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You have no way that you could possibly be good enough
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to be before the Father who cannot have sinned and is present.
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And so Jesus died for you.
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So if that's you, we're not gonna do a prayer
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'cause again, there's nothing magical about a prayer,
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but I do want you to reach out to me.
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Info@Undaunted.life is our email.
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Info@Undaunted.life where you can DM us on Facebook
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or Instagram or something like that.
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I wanna talk to you.
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Wherever you're at, I wanna see if I can help get you
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plugged in at a church.
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I want you to start your discipleship journey.
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If you can't get a Bible,
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we wanna make sure we get one of those in your hands as well.
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But I want you guys to respond to the gospel.
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And to those of you that are already Christians
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listening to this right now,
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I want you to remember that evangelism is required of you.
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You need to share the good news of what Christ has done
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in your life and the good news of the gospel
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and a full gospel.
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Not, you know, Jesus is okay with everything.
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And he came to dialing for certain people
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or for certain sins, no.
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You are so depraved, you have no chance
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of saving yourself.
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And literally thank God that he sent Jesus in your place.
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So, to those of you who have responded to the gospel today,
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I'm so excited for you.
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I wish I could show it more with my voice,
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but I'm just trying to make it through the end here.
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Please, please reach out to us.
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We'd love to talk to you.
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