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This is on Daunted Life of Man's Podcast.
1:19
I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
1:21
Let's get into it.
1:22
See you guys today.
1:23
I've got a special guest on the podcast.
1:24
Her name is Dr. Paolo Price.
1:25
So she is an author, a minister, speaker, an entrepreneur, and she's the founder of Price
1:29
University.
1:30
And how she was introduced to me, she was introduced to me as a 70-year-old black female
1:34
conservative.
1:35
And my immediate reaction was, wow, there's one of those that exists, right?
1:39
That's seemingly a unicorn.
1:40
If you look at culture or if you just take a look around, we're told that those types
1:43
of people don't exist, but obviously she is much, much more than what you would see just
1:48
on the back of her baseball card.
1:49
She's a wife.
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She's a mother of three daughters.
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She's a grandmother of two.
1:52
And here's the thing.
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I really enjoyed my time with her because, again, the way that she was pitched to me was
1:56
that she's just a firecracker.
1:58
There's no subject that is off limits, but obviously she spends a lot of time talking
2:01
about critical race theory.
2:03
So in this conversation, we do talk a lot about race in America, the culture around that
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critical race theory.
2:08
We talk about the education system.
2:09
We get into the Republican party because she's actually an elected member of the party and
2:13
different things like that and kind of what we can do as parents as we move forward.
2:16
But one thing I will say just from here from the beginning, this subject matter for today
2:21
was very political and more cultural.
2:23
And so you're going to hear some things in the podcast where it's like, wait a minute,
2:26
like that's something that Kyle would probably disagree with.
2:28
Why wouldn't he push back?
2:29
We had a little bit of a limited time today, but also I was way more interested in talking
2:33
about the things where Paul and I would have some agreement than the places where we would
2:36
have disagreement.
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I just felt like there was a lot of really positive things that we could talk about.
2:40
And there's some other things like maybe if you read her book or listen to some of her
2:42
speeches, you're going to see some things and hear some things that don't seem to really
2:46
align with what we talk a lot about here at Undaunted Life.
2:48
But again, that wasn't the point in today's show.
2:50
But before anyone freaks out and goes looking and looking, Oh, well, she said this or said
2:54
that.
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I don't really care.
2:56
You know, if we have further discussions in the future, maybe that's some things that
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we can get on.
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But I really, really enjoyed my time with her.
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We had a great time off air before and after the podcast.
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She seems like a genuinely amazing woman.
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She seems to be very, very interested in, you know, me personally and my wife and my kids
3:09
and all those different things, just a very, very warm conversation from a warm lady.
3:13
And I'm just so glad that we had her on the show, but I won't keep her from you any longer.
3:16
So without further ado, let's get into it.
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Dr. Paula Price, welcome to Undaunted Life of Man's podcast.
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Thank you.
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I'm very happy to be here and I'm looking forward to it.
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Yeah, I'm happy to have you.
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I've already complimented you for your great background.
3:30
So worst case scenario, it's going to be one of the better looking interviews I've done.
3:34
Obviously, you're, you're dressed to the tin, so I'm excited already.
3:38
But the funny thing is whenever you first came on my radar, you were described to me
3:42
as a conservative black woman.
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And the funny thing was, is I was like, I don't know that I know too many of those folks.
3:50
And that's like, I even made the comment.
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I was like, okay, she seems like a bit of a unicorn.
3:55
But I know that that's, you know, prejudging an entire group of people painting with a
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broad brush, which you're not supposed to do.
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But I guess from my perspective, and from a lot of people that would maybe listen to
4:04
this, why is it so seemingly rare for an older black woman to actually be a conservative?
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Because I'm from lot in Oklahoma, I grew up in an incredibly diverse town.
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You know, I was used to all different races and ways of speaking and cultural topics and
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all that.
4:18
So I ran into a lot of, you know, Paula prices in my day, but a lot of people other places
4:23
they don't really run into that.
4:24
So why is that so seemingly rare?
4:27
Wow, that's a really loaded question, Kyle.
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I'm just starting to hop from the beginning.
4:32
I love it.
4:33
First of all, in the Tulsa, at least I've been told there are two of us that are recognized.
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And I'm talking about now, active, I don't mean, or we have some sort of political ideology.
4:45
So I'm told that two of us, and I'm the latest one, I'm Johnny come lately, and I'm the one
4:49
that's, you know, doing all kinds of things.
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And why is that?
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Many times my experience has been that black people don't feel as if there is a place.
4:58
We have the welcome map, but we don't have the seat.
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We don't have that position where our thoughts are really entertained.
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And oftentimes, whether it's deliberate or not, whether it's accurate or not, you sit
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in these groups and you feel like you're some sort of accessory.
5:13
Like I'm an accessory, I'm just, I'm feeling the thing, or maybe I'm proof, you know.
5:18
Now that is a feeling and that feeling has to have some root and truth.
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I feel personally, I feel that we are not accustomed to seeing each other beyond neighbors, beyond
5:29
coworkers, except when you start talking in politics, you're now talking leadership, you're
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now talking influences, but you're also talking power, and that's a whole other ballgame.
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Well, it's interesting you bring that up because I do tend to ease into my interviews, but we're
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just going to fire right away because I feel like it's going to work out.
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I asked this question to another conservative commentator.
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He's from Ghana.
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He's immigrated to Canada, and he's going to be coming to America before too long, but
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this is a young black man who's a conservative.
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And I asked him a similar question that I'm going to ask you because you kind of brought
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it up a little bit when you said you're seen sometimes as an accessory.
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Are you ever worried about tokenism because you are such a unicorn that it does seem
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like it's something that somebody who has, you know, a political point they need to score
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is that, oh, let's bring in Dr. Paula Price, because she's going to substantiate us because
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she's a black woman.
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And that's that's a different type of racism.
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It's a different type of a sinfulness, you know, sin of, you know, preference of certain
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people over another.
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Are you worried about that at all being used in that way?
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No.
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Well, I don't worry about a whole lot of that, as you probably know by now, I don't worry
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about it.
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I am an elected official.
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They did elect me.
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If they elected me as a token, god bless them.
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You know, the New York subways and run on tokens forever, so that's who I am, I'm okay
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with that because however way I get in the door does not define how I behave and what
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I bring through that door.
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So I'm not stuck on that.
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But if you ask me if that has come up, absolutely, and a matter of fact, I'm surprised.
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Because I have been more warmly received than others, but I do know I always walk away.
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If I could be honest, I walk away thinking they're really uncomfortable with me.
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And it's that spirit of it discomfort that I feel more than I think about the tokenism
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or or any of those kinds of things.
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Now I am respected because I've earned my right to be expected to be respected.
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I'm an author.
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I am an inventor.
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I've done a lot of things and I've just launched here in Oklahoma and Tulsa, the first multi-cultural
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commission, excuse me, multi-cultural conservative commission.
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Why?
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Because we can't find the minorities.
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So, and so they asked me, why did you do it?
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And I'll tell you why because we are welcome.
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We just have to go through some sort of orientation where we are accustomed to listening to the
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intelligence that comes from us beyond our skin, listening to ideas and ideology.
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I don't promote the hatred or the anxiety.
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I don't deal with that.
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I'm about making it happen and I am an ambassador and that's what I do.
8:08
I think that's fantastic and I really like how you frame that in terms of how some people
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will focus on tokenism.
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But yeah, don't care about how you got here.
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Now you got to do the job.
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Because it's kind of one of those things like even like, let's say it was nepotism.
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You worked for some corporation and you were hired because you were someone's second cousin.
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Well, now you have the job.
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So now you need to perform.
8:25
You got to do business in order to create business, right?
8:28
But you keep bringing up things that I want to kind of go into.
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So I love how this is going already.
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But if you were to directly advise the RNC, right?
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So they bring you in and we're going to directly advise you because people always like to say
8:40
Republicans need to quote unquote reach out to communities of color, right?
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That they need to do this or they need to do that.
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But they're not always clear on what exactly that means.
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It's like, what do you mean reach out?
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And what do you mean people of color?
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Like, why are you treating them as this homogenous group?
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Because I was even thinking this morning, Paula, as I was thinking about this interview,
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my sister and I grew up in the same house with the same parents and we couldn't be any
9:02
different.
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So if somebody painted with a broad brush and said Thompson children, that would even seem
9:07
a little bit odd.
9:08
But when if you are advising Republicans that want to make inroads into those communities
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to, I guess, deepen or further some of the things that Trump was at least trying to do,
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what would you tell them to do?
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The first thing I would tell them to do is to come out of the Democrats narrative about
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them.
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Okay.
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Because you don't realize how much what the Republicans are doing now is all reflexive,
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all defective, defective, because they don't want to, they're trying to live down someone
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else's opinion.
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When I was in school, I was bullied.
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I was the kid.
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I was like, you know, two inches tall.
9:44
I weighed about a fifth of a pound and I was thrown everywhere in order to stop that.
9:48
I had to change my tactic because up until that point, I was always defensive and deflected.
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You know, you little this and whatever.
9:56
And I learned something from that, I learned that as long as you tell people they're right
10:01
about what they say, instead of redefining, redesigning your narrative, then you're always
10:06
going to be ketchup and you're always going to be on the defensive side.
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Now having said that, one of the things that I would also say is get to know black people.
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And I've been elected and I've been, they have been very open to me here.
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I've been invited to, you know, the meetings and whatever, but nobody has yet in the big
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picture.
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I think two men have actually taken time to get to know me because, and so I'm always
10:31
interacted with this by assumptions.
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There is a something, there's a stigma, there's a narrative, it's, and I want to go on, but
10:38
I want to say this because I need you to hear me Kyle.
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This is not because I feel like I'm mistreated or abused.
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I'm a pretty tough person, and I too, I can stand on my own.
10:47
What I'm saying is that if we're trying to make something work, then congeniality has
10:51
to go beyond formality.
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And so far, we're in to, we're always locked in formality, like, if we say, when we're
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sitting at the table, case in point, I said at the table at these meetings, there is this
11:05
constant conversation of who these people are, yeah, you know, John DeSosa, well, you
11:10
know, he was there 25 years ago and on and on.
11:12
And we're sitting there looking at him and say, so where do we fit?
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So I don't know if that's a drama that we have to go through or what, but learning us,
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knowing what we think, and then learning us to find out where the myth separates from
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the fact.
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There are a lot of myths that we do and trust me, Republicans and white people are not the
11:31
only ones.
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We have our own.
11:33
Everybody has it.
11:34
But if you ask me what I would say, I would say that secondly, I would love them to stop
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asking us to do more than pray.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Do a little bit more than pray.
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I have a very good mind and some strong thoughts on things that work.
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And I have almost 40 years of dealing with people.
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I have a little bit more to say than our father who are next.
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The thing that's interesting about the prayer comment as well is there are times when all
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you can do is pray.
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But I don't know that there's a ton of those times because some people just want to pray
12:04
because they're lazy.
12:05
They don't actually want to do anything themselves because, you know, you've heard the expression
12:08
probably before God can move mountains, but you got to bring a shovel.
12:11
It's kind of one of those things that his sovereignty will reign.
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But at some point you've got to act as well.
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And you said something else, I don't know if I should call you Paul or Dr. Price every
12:20
time.
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Okay.
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I may just even make up a name for you, but Paul sounds pretty good, but you mentioned
12:26
personal narrative, right?
12:27
And each of us have our own story and our own personal narrative, but a personal narrative
12:32
that I feel like has been foisted upon the as much as I hate the phrase black community,
12:36
if you will, is victimhood that they've been put down for this length of time and that
12:41
in order for them to ascend, the entire system needs to be brought down, right?
12:46
And so that that's kind of this, this Marxist communist type of idea.
12:49
We need to attack the system because it's been oppressing people of any kind.
12:53
So what are, what are your thoughts in terms of that for, for some of these folks that
12:57
are in the black community that feel like they are a victim no matter what they do, no
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matter what education they do, no matter what business they, they send to no matter how
13:05
great their family operates, that no matter what they're a victim and they can't get ahead
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in America.
13:10
Do you feel like, why does a story like that have teeth?
13:14
Well, I, first of all, I 100% disagree with that.
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I don't think black people are any longer victims.
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I think we have to become better fighters.
13:23
I think we have to become more strategic and more tactical.
13:25
I think we need to go to the power schools, which is what some of them did, what many
13:30
of them did and changed their lives.
13:32
But the whole victim narrative, that doesn't work for most of us.
13:36
I'm sitting here talking to you how victim is there.
13:39
So when we think about it, it really has to be us having, I think less activists, more
13:45
advocated and more ambassadorial thought leaders.
13:50
People who say, okay, this is what we had, this is where we were.
13:54
We cannot tell this nation that they did nothing right by us ever.
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That is untrue.
13:59
So we're going to have to want to give beyond our emotional steam and move into the truth
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that, yeah, but a lot more, but I mean, you look at television, you look at the billboards,
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you look at whatever efforts have been made.
14:11
Now, have we arrived?
14:12
No, but then America hasn't arrived.
14:15
I always leave every conversation like this with this statement, Kyle, what is America
14:21
without its skin?
14:22
If we're not defined by skin color, then what are we?
14:26
Now, why is that question important because it's important because we keep saying we want
14:30
to deal with racism, but we have nothing to replace it with.
14:33
And in life, if you don't deal, if you don't have a viable and more potent replacement,
14:38
you're stuck in the stronghold.
14:40
So my question or my statement is number one, to answer you, I don't think that victimhood
14:46
defines us any longer.
14:47
We have people, you know, there are other reasons why people don't have jobs.
14:50
You don't go to work, you don't eat, you don't want to get up all the time.
14:54
There are a whole lot of other reasons.
14:56
So let's act like we understand we're dealing with the human element, the human condition.
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The second thing is I don't believe, in one way or at all, that the institutions should
15:06
come down.
15:07
I think we need to switch out the populations.
15:10
We need to switch out the headship.
15:11
We need to switch out the leadership and not allow them to even sit in those places until
15:15
we sit down around the table and we think the policies, again, replacement.
15:21
You know, in God, God's at work, and we miss it, God will not fix anything if there's no
15:26
replacement.
15:27
The thing that I find that's interesting about your comment is you don't get a melting pot
15:32
without a plethora of different races.
15:35
It's funny whenever people in America, especially on the left, they look at these other cultures
15:39
and they say, well, look how non-racist Denmark is or this other Sweden or some other random
15:44
country.
15:45
And it's like, that's a homogenous culture.
15:47
That's not a bunch of people from a bunch of different cultures that have come together
15:50
to try to, you know, intermingle with one another.
15:52
That's all people that come from the same, the same line, it's like, it's easier for
15:56
them.
15:57
And then when something happens like the Arab Spring, the Arab Spring and like the Muslim
16:01
population of Sweden goes up, all of a sudden there's cultural issues.
16:04
It's like, yeah, because they've never had to deal with all these different disparate
16:08
cultures at different times.
16:09
So I think that that's an interesting thing as well.
16:12
One thing that I'm curious about as well for you is every time that I've heard you
16:16
talk and even now, you seem to have a really genuine and deep love for America.
16:22
And the thing about it though is I've been reliably informed that America is the most
16:26
racist and evil country that's ever existed.
16:29
And so how could someone that looks like you love this place?
16:33
Because I'm surrounded by people that don't look like me that love this place.
16:36
People that are not from this country that have come here, came through the front door
16:40
and they absolutely love America for what it stands for.
16:42
They're not ignoring any of the faults or any of the sinful things that we've done
16:46
as a country, but as a whole, they're looking at America as a positive.
16:50
You seem to have that same outlook.
16:52
So just explain that to me.
16:53
Well, I hope that on your broadcast, I can give you the answer that motivates me because
16:57
it's the only one I have.
16:59
And one of the reasons why I love America is first of all, I just think the spirit of
17:03
the land is absolutely amazing.
17:05
Now we may have to redress it a little bit and also some things, but the bottom line is
17:10
that America was founded by Jesus Christ and it's his nation.
17:15
And he's the reason why we still survive with all of our flaws, all of our fits and faults.
17:20
We are under the auspices and the power, the constitutional power of the Lord Jesus Christ.
17:27
That's the only answer I have.
17:28
I hope it's okay.
17:29
Now, I was raised in a very tough neighborhood.
17:33
I had a very hard dealing with the whole race issue, but one of the things I found out there
17:39
is a point where every human being who pushes back and stands and fights through reaches
17:46
where race can no longer define them and ultimately ceases to touch them in a damaging way.
17:53
One thing that I feel like, and I have heard you say this and I've seen it written on your
17:56
website as well, one of the things that I think helps inform your worldview and the
17:59
way that you're discussing this is you've said things like go beyond feeling to thinking.
18:04
And, you know, we said, another way, it's refused to surrender your intelligence to your emotions.
18:09
I feel like in our modern age, especially with my generation millennials and younger emotions
18:14
rule everything.
18:16
So if you feel so strongly about something, that means you're right.
18:21
And the louder you scream at the more right that you become.
18:24
So why is that seemingly a center point for you?
18:26
Because I completely agree, but our modern, you know, era that we're living in doesn't
18:30
seem to agree with that.
18:32
They want to value emotions over intelligence.
18:34
Why do you like the opposite?
18:35
I like the opposite because emotions cannot be measured or contained and emotions can't
18:41
be capped as we do it.
18:42
I mean, to be honest with you, as long as you push feelings, then everybody wins or everybody
18:48
loses and anybody can win.
18:50
When you have to go head to head with people and start getting them to articulate intelligence
18:55
to begin to give hard, hard facts and hard reasons for why they not only feel what they
19:01
feel, but they have already filtered those feelings through their intelligence.
19:05
Once you deal with that, you notice that takeover artists never want thinkers.
19:08
They always want feelers.
19:10
And so our country is under attack and this strategy to bring us to this point has everything
19:16
to do with what we thought, what we think, how we thought, how we think.
19:20
Now it's about a feeling.
19:22
And the reason that feelings work is because, well, people, feelings are spontaneous.
19:27
You can talk or want anything.
19:29
But intelligence, you're going to have to work something to break somebody's outline
19:32
to go and to move past their mentality and their mindset.
19:37
Right.
19:38
And feelings can't be wrong, right?
19:39
But intelligence can be because if you've learned that two plus two equals seven, somebody
19:44
can tell you that that's wrong, right?
19:45
And so if it's a feeling like, oh, I like what two plus two means to me, like, how could
19:50
you disprove that?
19:51
It's like disproving someone's opinion.
19:52
But I feel like all this kind of crescendos to one of the main parts of our conversation
19:55
today, which is going to be about critical race series.
19:58
So critical race series CRT is on a lot of people's brains, especially if they're thinking
20:01
about what's being taught through their kids at school, and we'll get a little bit more
20:04
into the education system in the US here in just a little bit, but even just generically,
20:09
what is critical race theory, your understanding of it and why is it so potentially harmful
20:13
to specifically our country?
20:16
Well, you know, the bottom line is no lies of the truth and two lies will not bring a
20:20
truth.
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Right.
20:22
That's bottom line.
20:23
Critical race theory is a political experience.
20:26
What I do like about the name is that they've got it by thinking critically.
20:30
So if we're going to combat it, we're going to have to go back to critical thinking.
20:34
But the bottom line is that it's taking the effects of a what I like to call a very wobbly
20:42
and very distasteful origin.
20:45
Being a woman, I can say this because I'm going to use this analogy.
20:50
And that is there are bursts that are horrible.
20:53
You can, I mean, just harm and baby comes out terrible.
20:56
There is a lot of aftermath.
20:59
But ultimately, it's what happens that nurtures it along, that determines the actual fabric
21:04
and quality of that child's life.
21:06
Now, having said that, America was born and racism was at its root, and it was on the
21:11
table.
21:12
Either we do race or the Constitution, I mean, all of those things are real.
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Here's why I'm not on that.
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We cannot pretend that we didn't face that over the years because we did.
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We cannot pretend that Martin Luther King didn't come and make us look ourselves in
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the mirror and begin to break some things open.
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We cannot pretend that nothing was done.
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My issue with critical race theory and every other racial issue is that the minorities,
21:37
we as minorities, black people in particular, we have got to stop saying nothing good was
21:42
done.
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Because when you tell somebody who is trying to understand you, that it's useless for them
21:48
to understand you because they'll never get it right because they haven't.
21:51
They're not going to give you their best.
21:53
So, taking it to critical race theory, rewriting the textbooks are not the answer.
21:59
Correcting those is the answer, but rewriting the textbook, I have a statement where I say
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we don't have to rewrite our history to write our destiny.
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We don't have to write our past with error, with abuse or any of those things.
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So, that's one of the things that I feel about it.
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Second thing I think about critical race theory is I'm going to say, you know, I don't even
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know if I'm on the right show, you know, Kyle, you bring out stuff from people.
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Let's go.
22:23
Let's go.
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I'm here for it.
22:25
Because one of the things critical race theory has done, it has shown if they would
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listen, it has shown black people how we could have fought our own racial issues.
22:34
Because see, white people are like, you're not going to ruin my child.
22:37
You're not going to kill my child.
22:38
You're not going to redefine my child.
22:39
You're not going to corrupt their image of themselves.
22:42
You're not going to get away with that.
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We cried.
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We were crying.
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We placards.
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We do all of that.
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We need to be learning for all of us.
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Number one, you all get to know what it's like to be on the other side.
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But a bigger lesson for us is that, hey guys, we could have fought better.
22:57
We could have been stronger.
22:58
We could have wanted to fix it.
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We could have stood for our children and stood for our generations.
23:03
Because ultimately, we did.
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Ultimately, we did do that.
23:06
So, when I think of critical race theory, I don't like it.
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And I don't like it for one reason, and that is, it's root.
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No foul root is going to bring a good truth, and that's just not going to happen.
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And that's what I think critical race theory is, is sowing foul roots in our children.
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And my reason of all the reasons is that, to what end?
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What type of citizen is critical race theory looking to produce in the future?
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What kind of politician?
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What kind of businessman, entrepreneur, educator, medical professional?
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What is the end product?
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Before we talk end game, what is the end product because education is the supreme stronghold
23:47
of every society, every society, nobody can get through it, learn or grow without it.
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Absolutely.
23:55
I want to take a little bit more into that.
23:56
But one thing that came to mind whenever you're talking at the beginning there is we seemingly
24:00
have this inability in our modern day to hold two seemingly disparate thoughts at the same
24:05
time.
24:06
You can say that it was absolutely sinful and horrific that Thomas Jefferson owned slaves
24:10
and raped slaves, like horrific things that he should pay for.
24:14
And also that he wrote the Declaration of Independence, which was the document that ended
24:17
up helping set the foundation to free the slaves, a document that Frederick Douglass felt like
24:22
it was one of the most important documents ever written.
24:24
We can hold those two things at the same time.
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It doesn't have to just be either or.
24:27
But I heard in another interview, you said something to the extent, you said it again,
24:30
just there, Paula, is to what end should our children be force fed this material?
24:35
Listen, this critical race theory, the CRT material, and again, we can put on our tin
24:40
foil hats and speculate all day.
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We could put on our intellectual hats and kind of figure out.
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But in your opinion, why do you think it's it's happening this way?
24:49
It seems like there is an agenda.
24:51
It seems like there is a purpose.
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I don't feel like it's accidental that our children, young white kids like like my sons
24:56
here within a few years are going to be told just because of how they look in the level
25:00
of melanin in their skin, that they're an oppressor and responsible for racism that happened
25:05
250 years ago, and at the same time, somebody like one of my best friends and their child
25:09
who happens to be a child of color, I guess you could say, they're going to be told that
25:13
they're an oppressor.
25:14
Regardless of the city they were born into or the family they were born into, what's the
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agenda here?
25:18
Like what's the purpose of all this?
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Well, before I answer that, I want to go back to the Thomas Jefferson slave constitution
25:25
thing, you know, for us to hold that over our nation's head is for us to say that he passed
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on those traits and those attributes and those impulses genetically.
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So now because otherwise what he did should have died with him like that cannot even be
25:43
a stronghold.
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But by the same token, the constitution that he ratified that he signed was prophetic.
25:50
And whether he knew it or not, it was to look forward to a day when equality would define
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our nation and not a bigotry.
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That is what I wanted to get out.
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But now to answer your question, you know, what is that like?
26:06
First of all, both sides are filling both sides.
26:09
I think America had gotten to the point, like, and I said it in my discussion, gotten to
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the point that we stop remembering what made us America, we stop feeling for each other,
26:19
we stop fighting for the land.
26:21
Like really critical race theory is not interested in the people that are affected who are going
26:27
to be the tools, the instruments, or the pods.
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It's interested in an ideology that will fracture the land and leave it open and vulnerable
26:34
for whatever it takes over that it wants.
26:39
Because the people don't matter in critical race theory, people do not matter.
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Theories matter.
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As a matter of fact, they tell you that now when I started, when I was researching, you
26:48
know, I found out that it started out as critical theory, you know, and I always tell people
26:53
about Antonio Gramsci in 1915, he gave a statement about socialism, he called socialism as the
27:02
only religion that would overwhelm Christianity.
27:06
And if socialism is going to take over, then it has to infiltrate schools, churches, families,
27:13
the media.
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Now, this he said in 1915, we are now 2022 and his words are working.
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And what he said they set out to do is what they did.
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So it has nothing to do with the children at all, other than the children will be future
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citizens.
27:31
The whole idea is this thing has gone back all the way to the 19th century and before
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that.
27:39
And we are now, and so what they did, bringing it down the line, I guess they're trying
27:42
to speed up the clock, they dropped the word race in the middle of critical theory.
27:47
This dropped the word in there.
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So now why is race expedient?
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Because it's very easy skin, skin color does away with ID.
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You don't need an ID card and we're going to define everybody by the color of their skin.
27:59
So they, and that was again critical.
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And I would like to say at that point, critical theory became political race theory.
28:06
Yeah, I mean, absolutely and it's funny because we talk about your emotions for a lot of people
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getting out in the way of their intelligence.
28:14
A lot of people that even don't like CRT, they don't understand that it comes downstream
28:18
from critical legal studies, postmodernism, critical theory, the Frankfurt School, cultural
28:23
hegemony rather, you know, conflict theory all the way back to Karl Marx.
28:27
And then there's people that Karl Marx read that that got him to his level.
28:31
But another thing that I think is interesting is you'll hear a lot of people say this and
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this is typically people on the left that are trying to signal how virtuous they are.
28:37
They will say, you know, I'm colorblind, I don't see race.
28:41
But for me, as a Christian, when I look in, into the eyes of someone that doesn't look
28:45
like me, I'm like, what a wonderful thing that we have differences.
28:49
I see race every time I look at people because with different races come different cultures
28:53
in different ways of worshiping the father and all these different things like I happen
28:57
to love that.
28:58
So when you hear people talk about, hey, I'm going to be colorblind as I look through
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things.
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I just, I look at it the opposite way.
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Am I crazy?
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Because I feel like I love seeing people for who they are and for the history they come
29:08
from.
29:09
I think it's great.
29:10
I think that people who say that consciously or unconsciously, they're saying it as an
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aspiration.
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It is very difficult to say and to live, see, it's easy to say, I don't see color, but
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how do you live?
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How do we live?
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It's easy to say, well, I just see everybody the same until, for example, to just make,
29:34
and I just did the statistic, but for example, when it comes to your child, your son or daughter,
29:40
hanging home someone of another color that is going to alter your stream, alter your
29:44
genetics, do you still see color?
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And I mean, we still talking about whether we can move down the street, not in my world,
29:52
but thank God.
29:53
But the point is that's an aspiration inspired by an internal dislike for what's going on,
30:00
but to me, a very narrow, a narrow perspective on the solution.
30:06
You have to see color, I mean, if I'm going to give birth to babies, I got 15 babies,
30:11
I'm going to have to write the color of the babies, that's important.
30:14
If a cop is going to stop you for speeding, they have to somehow or another identify you
30:20
if you flee and get away.
30:22
When you go to get medication, our genetics are different because when you go to get medication,
30:27
there are certain things that are specific to one color or one race or another.
30:31
So that's a nice aspiration that's based on an ideology we wish could happen.
30:36
But we have a long way to go before we say we don't see color.
30:40
I often tell people, I see color, I'm not driven by it.
30:44
I'm not goaded by the colors that I see.
30:47
I see color, you're black, I love it, that's right, he's black, God is great.
30:51
Now, why are we together?
30:52
I see color, you're white, it's wonderful, but we have to stop saying that we're blind
30:57
because that makes it our psyche has to work too hard to enforce that.
31:02
Yeah, and I think a lot of it has to do with people, again, trying to virtue signal and
31:06
say how virtuous they are, but there's also around this entire issue of race in America
31:10
and critical race theory, there's a lot of gaslighting that goes on.
31:12
So we're being gaslighted by people almost entirely from the political left.
31:17
And when they say that, you know, things like critical race theory isn't being taught in
31:20
school, or what are you crazy?
31:21
They say that Republicans are just making it up, that parents are freaking out over nothing.
31:25
So for you, obviously being an elected official, you know, being in the Republican Party and
31:29
seeing these things, seeing what happened in the state of Virginia, you know, an entire
31:32
race basically being swung by some of the issues that were occurring in the schools.
31:36
When you hear people say things like, oh, critical race theory isn't happening, we're
31:40
not actually teaching this to your children, what would you say to people that are propagating
31:43
a message like that?
31:45
Well, I went through a, I guess I'd call it a seminar or something where a woman, a former
31:53
superintendent of schools did a whole deep dive study on critical race theory.
31:59
And one thing that I walked away with in from that is that it has a lot of synonyms and
32:05
it keeps morphing itself by its synonyms.
32:07
So when we start beating that animal, then it comes up and it renames itself and maybe
32:13
reinvents itself.
32:14
So for them to say that it's not happening, we'd have to look at all of the synonyms,
32:19
you know, like the whole emotional thing that they're teaching, you know, the emotional
32:23
part of it.
32:24
Now that's not critical race, yes it is because you're still telling kids how to feel about
32:28
their name.
32:29
You're still telling children how to react this way or that way in the classroom.
32:34
So I would encourage everybody, do your homework and look at all of the synonyms it's come
32:39
up with since it's come under attack because it's those synonyms that they're hiding behind.
32:44
Now, we don't really teach that and then when you start asking for the curricula, you start
32:48
asking for the goals, the syllabus, the agenda, you realize that it's just lacquered with
32:53
different names or different verbiage.
32:56
And I think that's where parents, because, you know, the reason why I'm dancing life
33:00
is here is we're equipping men to push back darkness.
33:02
But a lot of men don't know where to look for darkness.
33:05
And so they're shocked when they see this, you know, pornographic book that's in the library
33:09
for at their elementary school, but it's like, dad, you probably should have asked for a list
33:13
at some point of what books were in the school and done a little bit of research.
33:16
Like I don't think that ignorance is really the issue for that.
33:18
And I've heard you say this as well in a previous interview that America has a long history
33:22
of fighting for its children.
33:24
And I think a lot of what we're talking about today that today comes back to this because
33:28
we hope because, you know, you're not only a mother, you're a grandmother, like I'm
33:32
a father and, you know, Lord willing, I'll have another child here on this planet here
33:35
very soon.
33:37
And that's two that's why I'm a conservative because I want there to be a world that is
33:42
I want there to be an America that is positive for my sons and I'm sure you want that for
33:47
your daughters, for your grandchildren and all that.
33:49
But when you say something like America has a long history of fighting for its children,
33:54
how do we make sure that that continues?
33:56
Because I see a lot of malaise, I see a lot of laziness coming from parents, I see parents
34:00
that are willing to just, you know, throw up their hands and you say, I guess we can't
34:04
do anything and go back to playing video games or go back to scrolling through Instagram.
34:08
How can we ensure that parents will continue that fight?
34:11
I think that and I pray for parents because I think that this generation of parentage
34:16
in the one before it have gotten a lousy bill of goods.
34:21
Parents no longer know what it is to be a parent because this assault was able to work
34:25
because they redefined parenthood and then redefined parenting.
34:30
So, you know, we're going to let the kid make the decisions, we're going to take our hands
34:34
off of this and we're not going to go in their rooms and we're not going to violate their
34:38
privacy.
34:39
You kidding me?
34:40
We came up alone.
34:41
You know, I bought your privacy every month to breach your privacy, that's what I mean
34:49
every single month and so that's it, but I think that we're going to go back to something
34:54
as basic as quality parenting and I want to make a statement that you just made about
34:59
conservatism.
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You know, when I got elected, I went to a prototypical, I call archetypical research
35:06
of the word conservative and I understood, once I dug it up, I understood it.
35:11
More than ever, that is the conservative, conservative means to protect, to God, to take
35:17
care of what's in existence, to make sure that harm does not violate the purposes in
35:22
the destiny.
35:23
To be a conservative is what everybody agrees with if they understood the word outside
35:28
of its political campaign lingo because to be a conservative is to be a potent and powerful
35:35
thing.
35:36
And so, once I got that, that's how I started with this organization that I founded.
35:41
So if you ask me where to start, if you don't deal with the parent, what you do to the kids
35:47
is going to go to whoever does it best and that's where we are today.
35:52
So the opposes of parents is that the adversaries of our country, they did a better job of nurturing
35:59
and converting our children than we did of nurturing and developing them ourselves.
36:05
Why?
36:06
Because they had them six hours a day.
36:07
We did not care.
36:08
They should have had a problem when they said we don't do homework any longer.
36:11
Then when they start saying we don't do math any longer, see, but parents don't know they
36:15
can get into that because these people are not treating parents poorly, Kyle, right now,
36:20
simply because they have the upper hand.
36:22
They are actually reinforcing what they conquered and we have to go back now and reconquer
36:29
our children, our right to define our children and our right to determine how they are going
36:35
to become future citizens of our land.
36:39
So I guess from a pragmatic side, let's come out of the world of philosophy a little bit.
36:43
What is your message to parents that are concerned about what's being taught in their public
36:47
schools?
36:48
Maybe they don't have the ability or don't think they have the ability to homeschool and
36:52
I don't know that's necessarily what you're advocating for, even though I'm sure you're
36:54
a fan of homeschool because I know some people that have just taken their kids completely
36:58
out of the system, but then I do inherently worry about those children when they do go
37:02
to university when they're 18 or 19 years old, if their gym teacher was mom and their
37:07
math teacher was mom and their science teacher was dad, I have some concerns about that whole
37:11
lifestyle, but at the same time, there is that fear that six to eight hours a day you're
37:16
spending with these state employees that have a very unilateral way of thinking.
37:22
What's your message to parents about how they can take back their rights as parents, even
37:26
if they don't literally have the capability, maybe because their job or something else to
37:30
just be with them 24/7?
37:33
First of all, I think it's terrible that the child's only authority figure is the parent.
37:37
I just agree with that 100%.
37:39
Community parenting is how I grew up and I know that's how you like, I could get whooped
37:42
by someone's grandma two streets over if they saw me get doing something, you know what
37:46
I mean?
37:47
And by the time you got home, your momma knew it.
37:49
Oh, it was bad.
37:50
It was bad.
37:51
I don't agree with the parent being the sole authority or the sole public figure of the
37:59
child in their life.
38:00
I just agree with that.
38:02
And while I have severe issues about public school, I think the middle of the road solution
38:07
would probably be that all of these other schools that are coming together, they need
38:11
to create their own superintendency, they need to create their own council of education.
38:18
So if you're in a city and you have, you know, the parents don't want to do public
38:23
school or camp, then, and this one is doing it at the church and someone else is doing
38:27
it at the gym, someplace else, all of that, I think we need to come together for the replacement
38:33
because I'm big on that, for the replacement educational council and superintendency of
38:40
the schools, of the alternative schools that want to, again, I would like to take feedback
38:47
into the public school system once we can pull all of those, all of the adversaries
38:52
and all of the other agendas out of the way.
38:56
So in the case in point, if we're talking about in Tulsa, okay, well, we've got this
39:01
one's doing it, that one's doing it, well, let's not add to the problem by fragmenting
39:04
it.
39:05
Let's find out how to come together, come up with what we know is wholesome and healthy,
39:10
which is probably just going to be education 50 years ago, but come up with what is wholesome
39:15
and healthy and less as a collective, let's show our strength.
39:19
Right now, they don't worry about us because we're scattered all over the place, but when
39:22
you start showing as a collective, now that muscle has got to be dealt with.
39:26
So that's one of the things that I would do.
39:28
And it would take parents who would start saying, we want this, who is it, that we do,
39:34
I mean, it's great to say that this wonderful Christian guy is running for state superintendent
39:39
of schools, but the bottom line is not a whole lot is going to get done by that person and
39:43
let's everything else goes with him in that position.
39:48
Right.
39:49
Yeah, there's so much bureaucracy.
39:50
You have to have a tidal way.
39:51
But we saw that, Paula.
39:52
We saw that in Virginia with a gubernatorial race with Glenn Yunken because Glenn Yunken
39:55
could have gotten, should have gotten skunked because Virginia used to be a solidly red
39:59
state.
40:00
They said it was going to turn purple.
40:01
It skipped purple and went to solidly blue and then all of a sudden we see these things
40:05
happen in schools.
40:06
We see the, we see the rapes.
40:07
We see the critical race theory things that have happened, some of the transgender issues
40:10
and all of a sudden the parents said no more and a lot of these parents were registered
40:14
Democrats, but they were more towards the center.
40:16
They weren't, you know, super left wing Bernie Sanders, AOC type people.
40:20
They were just people trying to work a job and raise their families.
40:23
But Republicans and Glenn Yunken specifically, he decided to play into that whether you thought
40:29
he was taking advantage of it or if it was just kind of the culture of the time.
40:33
Do Republicans need to focus on becoming the party of parents?
40:36
Because seemingly the Democratic party was the party of parents seemingly by default.
40:41
Yeah.
40:42
But now we see this especially going into the 2022 midterms.
40:45
It looks like Democrats are going to get skunked and it looks like the people doing the skunking
40:48
is going to be parents.
40:49
Do Republicans need to really, really drive that home now?
40:52
I absolutely love, let's get real who gave the public school their students, parents.
40:58
Yeah.
40:59
Parents, we the parent handed over our students to the public school system.
41:04
And then, but the thing we forgot to do is watch our win.
41:09
One of the things that we have to do as America of the future is begin to watch our successes,
41:13
guard and steward our wins.
41:15
And not just say, it's over, I'm glad that's over, that's how I don't have to do that any
41:19
longer.
41:20
So that's one of the things I do know that if you're going to fight for children, if you're
41:26
going after the parents and raising parents, not only awareness and concern, but their
41:31
confidence in parenting their children to adulthood in a wholesome and healthy environment,
41:37
yeah, you're going to have to make children a priority because right now everything else
41:41
is kind of like after the fact.
41:44
It's kind of like byproduct because what did they say?
41:47
They said, we want your children, we came after your children and what do we do?
41:51
We neutralize your parenting to get your children.
41:56
And that is what we did.
41:57
So now if we're going to be strong, if we're going to do anything, we're going to have
42:02
to arouse those parents parental instinct that mother, father guardianship.
42:08
We have to really arouse that and let them know it is okay to be a parent because a
42:13
lot of what they allowed their children to do, the Democratic Party and the public school
42:18
system, put it in their kids to force their parents to do it.
42:23
Hey, and what a lot of these people found out in the Virginia gubernatorial race and
42:28
in the upcoming midterms is that sometimes when you poke a bear, it's a mama bear or
42:32
it's a papa bear and they're not really, they're not really excited about how close you're getting
42:36
to their cubs.
42:37
But I do want to kind of take a take a left turn here as we kind of wind towards the end.
42:41
I want to talk about fatherhood a little bit because one thing that I focus a lot on my
42:45
podcast and now that I am a father and almost everyone that listens to this podcast as a
42:49
father is the fatherlessness issue in America is an insane epidemic.
42:55
And I mean that across racial lines.
42:58
So if we go back 50 years, fatherlessness in the black community was about 30%.
43:02
Now it's like 70% in the Hispanic community.
43:05
It was like 15%.
43:06
Now it's 50% in the white community.
43:08
It was like 30%.
43:09
Now it's 30%.
43:11
We're seeing these exponential gross in single motherhood and these kids growing up without
43:17
their biological father or any father of any kind inside the household.
43:21
And every bit of data we see just when there's a father figure around, even if he sucks,
43:26
even if he's not even good at it, you know, their graduation rates go up.
43:30
Crime goes down, you know, pregnancy before marriage goes down.
43:34
All these other different issues, you know, education goes up.
43:37
What do you see is the biggest fallout from the fatherlessness issue that we're having
43:41
in this country?
43:42
And I know it's too big of a topic to break down in a short few minute answer.
43:46
But what can we do to help mitigate that?
43:49
The first thing that I would say is the root cause is promiscuity.
43:54
If it's easy, if it's that easy to get a base of primal pleasure satisfied with no strings
44:01
attached, why tell yourself to anything?
44:04
That's not the one.
44:06
So the promiscuity was already difficult because men were free and I'm just using historical
44:11
facts, nothing opinionated like that.
44:14
But then women decided we took away that whole restriction, we put them on a pill.
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So now we can date whom we want.
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We move from there to social media, we move from there to the dating game, which used
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to be, let's do dinner and not as dating actually means something else.
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So we're going to have to deal with culture.
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We're going to have to deal with the cultural liberties that we unleashed that we saw no
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real consequences for because when it's all said and done, it's the children that suffer.
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It's the kid and the father can walk away a lot easier than the mother because most
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times a father, if you were just meant to be a one-night stand, then I didn't want to
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know they have a kid and if they do, it's not my problem, you should have taken care
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of yourself.
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So we have to deal with culture.
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If you ask me what the answer is, we're going to have to decide if we want to put Pandora
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back in her box.
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Yeah, I think it's astonishing where we've gotten to as a culture because for me personally,
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I'm one of those weirdos that has had one sexual partner's whole life and I'm married
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her like it's my wife, like that's kind of my thing, but you're right.
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These kids and also pornography is pervasive in culture.
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I mean, pornography, when I was growing up a kid versus now, whenever you have parents
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that are putting an unlocked iPhone in the hands of their seven or eight year old and
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trusting, hey, don't look at any murders, don't look at any rapes, don't look at any
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hardcore pornography.
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It's like these parents, again, what you're talking about earlier, they're like, oh,
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I don't want to violate my kids and I don't want to violate their privacy.
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It's like, man, I grew up in an era where if my parents thought I was doing something behind
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the door that I shouldn't been, they would have taken the door off the hinges, right?
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And throw it in the garage until they figured they could trust me at some point.
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But now here I'm going off on attention now and this is not the point of today's interview,
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but let me go ahead and bring it to really the last question I have for you for today.
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So again, we talked about you have daughters, you have grandchildren.
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I focus a lot on sons and sonship and writes a passage bringing young men and ushering
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them from boyhood into manhood because I have two sons, that's a big deal for me personally.
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But I want you to give a message to the fathers listening to this to have daughters, okay?
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So I don't understand that because I don't myself have daughters.
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You do have daughters, you are a daughter yourself.
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So if you could give a message to my listeners that have daughters about things that they
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can do to ensure that they are a good and positive father to their daughter, what would
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you say to them?
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That's a good question for me.
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I teach it in the churches and the meetings I have.
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The first thing I would say to you dad is stop thinking that your daughter does not need
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you or that your presence and what you admit as her father doesn't matter.
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The second thing I'd like you to do is to stop thinking that anybody should make her
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happy, that she needs a boyfriend just so she can feel a touch.
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A lot of girls go into sexual relationships, not because they like the sex, but because
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they like the touch and if dad would do that, then they would not have that hunger.
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If the holiday, take your daughter out, you talk all the time about men, me and my son,
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we went to the gang, whatever.
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But don't assume that your daughter doesn't like your company, and trust me, it doesn't
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make a difference if they pick at you and all of that.
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Sometimes they pick at you because they're just, you're funny.
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Other times they just pick at you because that's their pet way of showing their love.
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Make sure that your daughter has your time and attention.
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Pick your daughter out to dinner so that she doesn't have the need to date everything
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to get some company.
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Talk to her, and when it comes time for her to start having feelings about boyfriends
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or whatever, do everything you can dad and mom, but give your child the identity.
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One of the things that she teaches with beyond a shadow doubt, if you look for it, it teaches
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it all the time, your seed is the best thing you have to give to the world.
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You have got to realize that when that seed stops being in you, and it becomes a person,
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particularly a girl, you have to realize that culture, they don't really think about girls.
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Can I say this call quickly just to give you a point?
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We had a women's meeting just to show you how religion feeds into fathers being unable
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to father their daughters, but we had a women's meeting, and we were talking about how important
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women were.
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A 12-year-old who asked the question, it broke my heart, and I hope the father's here.
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She said, "Dr. Price, why doesn't God like girls?"
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I said, "Well, honey, why are you saying that?"
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She said, "Because my dad told me that girls are not in heaven, and God doesn't like girls,
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and that's why girls can't do anything in the church."
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Now think about that psyche, because that's hundreds of years, so you have to break the
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rules.
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If you are a leader in your church, stop letting them have gender bias, stop letting them treat
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your daughters as she's left in the sons you gave birth to, and then the last thing is
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when it comes to celebrations and whatever, tell your daughter that she looks good, because
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if you don't, nine times out of ten, she's been in class saying nobody likes her.
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She'll say, "Oh, dad, that's just you, but you are the one voice that keeps her hope
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alive."
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If you ask me, "What I would do," I would say, "Father your daughters as well as your
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sons, and make sure your daughters have their own special time with their dads."
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I think that's great, and it's so beautiful when you see a dad that has that deep and
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abiding love for their daughter, and beyond laying their life down for them, because most
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dads, I think, would lay their lives down for their family.
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But that's something you do one time, but sacrificing yourself every single day to the
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betterment of another human being, that's dying every day, multiple times a day, you
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know what I mean?
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So it's a big deal, so I appreciate that word, and that's a great place to leave it.
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We've talked about a lot of things.
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We've covered a lot of ground in this discussion, but that's all for me.
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Is there anything else you want to get off your chest?
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No, I am just unhappy about having done this.
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I enjoyed our time together, Kyle, and I pray that it's a blessing for you and your audience.
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It certainly has been for me, and I'm sure for them as well.
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Dr. Paula Price, thank you for coming on on Daunted Life of Man's Podcast.
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Thank you.
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God bless.
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There you go, guys.
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I hope you enjoyed my time with Dr. Paula Price, but before we let you go, we are going
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Paula's website.
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So you can go and check her out there.
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