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This is Undaunted Life of Man's Podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.
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All right, guys, you've got a very special guest on the podcast today. His name is Neil McDonough,
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so he is an actor. And, guys, if you are not watching this on YouTube or on Rumble,
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if you don't recognize the name, you're definitely going to recognize the face because this guy
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has been one of the most active actors that we have seen really over the last several decades.
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What most of you will probably recognize him from is he played Buck Compton and Band of Brothers.
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And so for the moment, I said that some of you guys knew exactly who he was and exactly the parts
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that we're probably going to talk about on this particular podcast today. But he's also been in
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a bunch of other movies and TV shows. He was in Star Trek, first contact, Minority Report,
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Captain America, the first Avenger, Yellowstone, Justified, Tulsa King. And yes, yes, yes. I know
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you guys are a big fan of this show, Desperate Housewives, right? So he had a nice couple of
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dozen episode run on that show. But here recently, he's been the part of several projects with Angel
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Studios. And so he did the shift where he played the benefactor, otherwise known as Satan.
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He did Homestead. So we talked to Ben Smallbone last year about the Homestead series. So he's kind
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of the main guy in that. And then today, we spend most of our time talking about the last rodeo.
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And I say time, we did not have very much time today because I got contacted yesterday by Angel
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Studios. And here we are a couple of months before this comes out. But I got contacted. They're like,
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Hey, you were the first person we reached out. Can you do tomorrow? And it's like, yes, we can do
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tomorrow. But hey, we only have 30 minutes. And wouldn't you know, the moment we get to the room,
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we have tech issues, which I'm sure my editor right now, it's just dying laughing because if these
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fingers touch anything tech related for whatever reason, even if it's never not worked before,
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it's going to stop working at that exact moment. So we lost about a third of our interview time,
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just trying to get this camera to hook up to this camera and the microphones above the block.
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So if it seems like we're going pretty fast, it's because we are because we had roughly about 18
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minutes to do our entire conversation. But we did talk about how he was a very active actor,
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how he's always been an active actor, but also how his life kind of fell apart. Not that long ago,
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he really kind of fell into alcohol. He lost a lot of his work because he refused to do sex
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scenes and he refused to do kissing scenes with anyone other than his wife and his wife is not a
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professional actress. And so that's in his contract, but he lost some work because of that. He lost
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his house, he lost a bunch of stuff that was going on at the time. And he really leaned on alcohol.
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So we spend a little bit of time talking about, okay, what's your advice to guys that are in the
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process of or post their their lives blowing up or blowing their own lives up? What would you tell
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these guys about how they should get through it? And faith is really the core of the answer he gave.
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So we have to stick around for that. We do talk about the new movie, The Last Rodeo.
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We talk about it was filmed here in Oklahoma. Why in the world did he do this film? Where did the
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idea come from? But if you stay with us until the very, very end, I asked him a couple of questions
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and he got a little choked up with one of them. But I asked him if he had to leave one acting
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performance, either in television or in a movie, one acting performance that that was all could be
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left for humanity. And that's how we would know the name Neil McDonough. What would that performance
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be? And then I asked him, what's the one line that you delivered in any of your performance?
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That if we had to delete everything else would be the one line you would leave for humanity.
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Guys, it's a short one. So don't miss any second of it. You guys can just stay here. It's an awesome,
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awesome conversation. Hopefully we'll get them on here for a much longer one here in the future.
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But for now, without further ado, let's get into it. Neil McDonough, I would give you my normal
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welcome, which is welcome to Undone Life of Man's podcast. But you and I have been facing the
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demon of bad tech issues. And now here we are having to make magic with short time period. Are
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you ready to go? Are you ready to do this thing? Never quit. Never give up. That's it, right?
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Yeah, that's basically it. And that's basically where we're going to go from the beginning. Now,
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you have a face that everybody would recognize that's watching this right now because you've
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been in everything. Okay. And so my biggest question, I guess, from the beginning, because there's no
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way really to get into your background and how'd you get into acting and what's all your favorite
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colors and everything. You were one of the most, I guess, accomplished actors that I've seen because
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you're just in everything and you seem to be constantly working. And so tell me a little bit
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about that because you see people that have these careers that are either short-lived or
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they go real hot and then they go real cold for a very long time. But you've just been consistently
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working as an actor for a very, very long time. How in the world are you doing it?
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I'm like an old Labrador. I just don't know when to stop. I just keep pushing forward,
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pushing forward, pushing forward. And I love what I do. So it's the only job I've ever had, really.
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So I wouldn't know what else to do. My wife laughs at me, Ravey. She's like, you can't pound a nail.
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You can't tell a joke, but man, you can act. And I found my gift early on. And it's not my gift.
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It's a gift that God just put inside me and has nothing to do with me. I'm just a vessel for
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whatever he wants me to do. And I've just been really fortunate to be able to have a career where
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I can do films and TV and stage and commercials or video games or whatever. And it just keep on
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working. And I'm a very, very blessed man. Well, Neil, even in that answer, you touched on a
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couple of things that I wanted to talk to you about because you've talked about on other shows
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before about how you've maybe lost some work because of out of respect for your wife and your
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faith that you won't do kissing scenes with other women or sex scenes. And I mean, we've even seen
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you kind of play both sides. So in the shift, you played the benefactor, which is a Satan character.
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But then you also, as far as my research tells me, in the truth and life, dramatize audio,
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New Testament Bible, you played Jesus. So you've played all sections of this thing. And so your
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faith, but also really your adherence to a specific kind of morality has had to have maybe had an
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impact on your Hollywood career. Has it caused you to lose roles? Has it caused you to have
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some unneeded setbacks? Well, yeah, I think everyone knows about 10, 12 years ago, I did a
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project where I got fired because I wouldn't do an intimate scene. It's in my contract. I won't
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kiss another woman on screen. That one hurt. You know, that that was two years of, as I've said,
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you know, they took everything away from me. My house was taken away, my cars,
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my image, my everything. And there wasn't a bottle of bourbon that I didn't have my name on for
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about two years straight. And it was hard. It was hard on Rivey was, I'm sure it was hard
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in the kids. I hit it pretty well from everyone. But Rivey was there with me the whole way, just
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waiting for me to get through it. And I finally got through and when I asked God, why have you
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forgotten about me? And as soon as those words came out of my mouth, Kyle, I realized I made
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everything about me. And I didn't make anything about servicing God and doing his work or giving
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him glory. And then I just pivoted. And yes, I had to keep on playing bad guys because I won't
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kiss another woman on the screen. But then I started precincting our own films. And when we did,
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the first one we did was called Greater, which we shot not very far from you guys in Arkansas.
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And it was one of those films that made me realize that I get so many people coming up to me
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for greater saying, thank you for making such an awesome movie. Because it was a first one we
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produced. And it just kind of, it was this epiphany went off in my head, wow, I can actually start
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building things from the ground up. And then a couple years later, I did my first movie with my
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writing partner, Dark Presley. And we did Redstone about a hitman who finds his faith again. And
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then we did part two and Boone, I wrote that one with him. And then we started doing more and
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more films that Ravey and I would produce. And my wife, Ravey, she's a beast. She can raise financing
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like nobody else. And you know, sitting now, we're about to start our 11th project. And here we are
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talking about our favorite one of all that comes out in two months, the last rodeo that I wrote and
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produce alongside my wife, Ravey, and I got to star in it and have my dream team. Michael T.
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Williamson and Michael T. Williamson and Chris McDonald are two of my very, very best friends on
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the planet. And to have them in the film with me was amazing. And to have John Avnett, my favorite
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director of all time, to direct the film. These are all things that are gifts completely from God.
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And I know that. And I'm fortunate enough to be able to understand that it's not me. These are
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just gifts that God gave me. And I'm going to do everything I can to make sure I make the most
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entertaining projects that I can possibly can for everybody. Neil, I appreciate that. And guys,
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for those of you that are listening to this on time, the last rodeo comes out tomorrow.
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You can go to the show notes and buy your tickets. Go check it out. It's very, very, very important
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that you go see it opening weekend. Don't just get around to it and meander into the theater
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next week. No, unacceptable. You got to go this weekend. We'll get into the last rodeo. But I do
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want to back up real quick to something that you said, because there is a reason for that, Kyle.
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If yeah, you know, the films that we're making, you look at Homestead, the film that we did a
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few months ago also with Angel, this little $5 million film that, almost $25 million in the box
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office. That's unheard of. Because we're making films that the Heartland of America wants to see,
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because I think Hollywood kind of put the Heartland of America on the back burner for a while. And
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they started making really dark, crazy stuff. And I'm guilty of being part of a lot of those films.
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I have to make a living. I have five kids. School's not cheap. But it's, and I love working. I'm an
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actor who loves to work. If you ask me to be any movie, I'm going to say yes. It's a sickness that
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I have. And that's why I've been in 150 movies and a thousand hours of television, because I don't
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know how to say no to anything, especially my kids. And here we are now making another film,
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The Last Rodeo, which again, talks to the values of America, the Heartland of America. My parents
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are both immigrants. They came over with nothing. And they instilled such American values into us
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that now I get to write about these things. And this weekend, The Last Rodeo comes out that talks
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about those things. So if you who are out there listening and watching this, if you love those
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types of films that Angel's been producing, you have to go to the movie theater opening weekend,
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bring the whole family. And these films, you don't have to cover your kids' eyes or ears at any
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point during the movie. These are family films, but they talk about real life problems, death and
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addictions and all kinds of stuff and how you get through it with faith. And I'm so proud of The Last
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Rodeo. I know it's going to be a huge weekend. And I'm really looking forward to everyone going out
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to the theater and supporting it. Please go support. Yeah, absolutely. Amen. Neil, that's part of the
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shift in, you know, you could call faith based content or one of those types of things is a lot
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of that stuff was way too predictable, way too cheesy, way too fluffy. And that just doesn't really
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resonate anymore, especially with how we've kind of been ingrained in the darkness of our culture.
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I do want to talk about the the angel products. But if we can go right back or the projects rather,
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if we go back to something that you're talking about, where you're talking about your drinking,
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which you've talked about openly, I talked to a 95% male audience. This is the number one podcast
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in the world for Christian men. But we still got dudes in our audience that struggle mightily,
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whether that be with alcohol, with line on their taxes, with cheating on their spouses with just
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any type of behavior that they don't wish that they would perform anymore. But for whatever reason,
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they still do it. It's got to hold them on on them, whether it's emotional or chemical or otherwise.
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But for you, here you are on the other side of it. You can't connect the dots while you're in it,
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but you can connect the dots looking backwards. What would you tell guys in my audience that are
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kind of in that moment, they are either post blowing their lives up or they're in the process
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of doing so? What would be your message to them? My life fell apart. And the crutch that I leaned
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on was alcohol. When things get taken away from you and you start making it just about yourself
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and you're wallowing in your own self pity, I just give me another drink, just give me another drink.
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That'll make the pain go away. Well, the pain doesn't go away. At some point, you have to
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address that pain and kick that pain's butt and get it out of the room. The only way to do that,
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for me, was going to church all the time, talking to God all the time. I'm so blessed
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that I get to have a partner in Rivet who waited patiently, got me through the situation, never
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judge me, never got angry with me. It was just there just trying to help me get through it. I
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couldn't get through it myself because I thought it was all about me. Oh my gosh, how can ever,
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how could this world turn on me? How can I lose all my stuff? Well, it happens to everybody at some
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point, but it's how you get through it after. Rivet gave me this one quote, here's the kind of
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guy you want to be. You want to be the kind of guy that when he wakes up in the morning,
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your two feet hit the floor, the devil says, oh, shoot, he's up. That's a challenge to every dude
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who's watching the show. Alcohol is brutal. There's nothing good about it. I mean, there really isn't.
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It takes you to horrible, dark places. The only way to have clarity in life is to be clear-minded,
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isn't it? The only way to be a great dad, the only way to be a great husband, if you make
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mistakes, well, my mistakes, we're all sinners, we're all idiots, we're all stupid at times,
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we all do bad things. But it's how you dust yourself off that dictates what kind of man you are.
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And if you can figure out that God loves you more than you could ever possibly imagine,
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we're not always here for him, but he is always here for us waiting with his open arms,
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ready to give you all the love and everything you need in life, what is stopping you? Take the
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bottle, throw it in the trash like I did, get rid of that stuff, start manning up, start being
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the dude that you're supposed to be, and not just for yourself, but for your wife, for your kids,
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for your family, for your country, and for God. Once you start on that path, trust me,
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dude, 10 years ago, I was a drunken mess with nothing. Now I'm about to start my 10th
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Absolutely. And Neil, if you're two feet hit the floor and Satan has that reaction,
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means you're doing stuff. Because if you're just going to be a slugger and sitting there,
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like Satan's not going to be too concerned about you. But the moment you get in the game
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and you start trying to push back darkness, that darkness is going to be pushing back
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against you. And you better make sure that you have a foundation underneath your feet.
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And it's not your own stick to itiveness. It's not your moxie. It's the lord of heaven and earth.
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So let's go and talk a little bit more about the last rodeo. So again, guys, that is in theaters.
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Tomorrow it has been, I think the film was mainly filmed here in the great state of Oklahoma.
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So I appreciate you guys coming here. Yeah. So you are a big fan of Oklahoma,
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even though you didn't know it until you came here. I fell in love with Tulsa. I'm going to stop.
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Tulsa is the town. My dear friend Steve Mitchell is in Tulsa and he keeps on saying,
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"When are you moving? When are you moving?" I loved the double-aid Dodgers team is right
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downtown. The B.O.K. center. Tim McGraw played my first night. I was there. The great little
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Artesian restaurants, a cool little music vibe. There's a real artistic vibe to something that I
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never thought that I would find in cowboy country. And I was just floored by it. I love Tulsa. I love
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everything about it. I've jogged all over that city up and down. We're getting in shape for the film.
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I love that place, but it's the people of Tulsa that I just really just admire for their
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sticking to their family values, sticking those all-American core values. I just loved it.
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Well, and the land's pretty cheap out here. So you just let me know. We'll work it out. We
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can get you moved to Oklahoma, no problem. But this is a movie that you didn't just star in,
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that you also wrote this. You're the star character, Joe Wainwright. But there's some amazing performances
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in this. I was just able to watch it last night. So just kind of give me the ideas to the impetus
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behind this film. Where did the idea come from? And then let's talk about you bringing it to life.
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We're doing another film at the time, "Revein I Were Preusing," this movie called "The Warren
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Part II Breakers Law," which is this great western we did for INSP. And "Revein the Kids Were Home,"
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and I was in Arizona filming. I was just missing them fierce. And this thought came through,
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it was very dark thought. I said, "What would have happened to me if something ever happened to
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Revein?" And I pulled over to the side of the road, and I just kind of got choked up, and it really
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buckled me. And then I saw some horses in the background, and I swear that the Lord put this idea
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in my head, write a movie about Rocky on a bull, about an aged rodeo star who has to go back and
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ride to save his grandson's life. At the time, I'd never seen a rodeo. I didn't know anything about
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bull riding. I knew nothing about it. And then within 24 hours, I voice-ticked it in my phone the
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whole outline for the film. Then I sent it to my writing partner, Derek Presley, and within a week
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we had the script done. And a week after that, Revei raised the money. They said, "Who do you
19:04
want to direct it?" And I said, "Well, I'd like to have John Abner directed. I want Michael T. Williamson
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and Chris McDonald, my two best friends of being in the film." Okay. It was so ridiculously simple,
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because I had nothing to do with it. This was God's will. This was him putting that seat in my head,
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and me not wanting to let him down. It's as simple as that. And here I am now about to have
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my favorite movie that I've ever been part of, that I'm so proud of. The first movie that I've
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ever kissed a woman in, of course, is my wife, Revei, who I cast as my wife in the flashbacks.
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All these amazing things are happening this weekend. And I've never been proud of anything
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that I've ever done in my life, because I know it wasn't about me. It was about servicing him
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and making a great film for everyone to go watch. Families, whole families, please go to the theater,
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go see this and support films like this, because it will tell Hollywood, stop making all the dark
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stuff. Let's go make some family films that the whole family can talk about after.
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Well, let me go and tell you, my wife does not really do high drama very much. She's not really
20:07
drawn to movies. She kind of gets lost in them. It's just not a fun experience for her, but
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she started watching this one. But I just got to tell you, without giving any spoilers away,
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early in the film, when you started to sense what was going to be happening with the main character,
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your character's grandson, I had to not come up in my throat. And I was having trouble keeping my
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emotions because I can feel that because I have two sons. And so it's a little bit disjointed
20:30
with a grandson or something like that, but you could just feel it. There's a visceral nature
20:34
to this movie that you don't get in some of the other movies that are could be lumped into this
20:39
genre, if you will. And so I thought that that carried a lot of the drama and a lot of the narrative
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of this story. And so we're running short on time. So I got a couple of questions for you here
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towards the end. Again, guys, the movie is the last rodeo. It's in theaters this weekend. You
20:51
can find your tickets here in the show notes, go and check it out. But since you've done all this
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television and movie acting, okay, I want to know for you, Neil, if you had to delete your entire
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IMDB, your entire back catalog, every performance you've ever done in your life, and you could only
21:06
have one performance that would be your legacy that people would know your name, you know, you buy,
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you know, air is beyond this one. What's the one performance that you would leave for humanity,
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television or film? Wow. Okay. Oh, the next question's worse. So just get ready. Okay.
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Well, band of brothers obviously was just something that was so incredible to play that all American
21:27
hero, Buck Compton was amazing. Those guys are still all my best pals. Buck became like another
21:33
dad to me. It's where I met my wife, Reve, the first day I got into London. So, you know, that's
21:39
right up top. Justified was just a crazy, awesome performance. But I got to tell you, there's nothing
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like I've never kissed a woman on screen to write a film, produce a film, to star in a film,
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alongside my wife and my best friends, being directed by my favorite director of all time and
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getting to kiss my wife on screen for the first time. Hard to beat.
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It's hard to beat. It's really hard to beat. Well, I'm gonna bail you out with this last one,
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because it's a way worse question than the previous one. This will be how we wrap up Neil.
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Now, there are conical lines in films, right? So Russell Crow and Gladiator, what we do in life,
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that goes in eternity. You got no Gibson and Braveheart. They may take our lives, but they'll never take
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off freedom, right? There's lines. So if we have to delete every line that you've ever delivered
22:40
in television or in movies, and you could have one line that you leave for humanity in the way
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that you delivered it, I know I'm asking you like an impossible thing, but I'm just trying to ask
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you something no one else is going to ask you. What's the one line that you delivered that you're
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going to leave for us? Band of brothers, when I see all my buddies getting blown up,
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and I come out of the foxhole and everything's blowing up around me, and when I say medic,
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when I drop my helmet and band of brothers, that's maybe the most iconic thing that I could
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it eats me up every time. Here I am, and it's supposed to be the real tough guy in television
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movies, but now you get to actually see the real Neil who's pretty emotional, but that's, you know,
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that's to me that that represented who those guys were in World War II, what they had to do.
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Here's these 18, 19 year old guys who have been through basic training with these same guys and
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live with these guys, jumped out of planes together, and there they are fighting against the Nazis,
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and seeing your, those guys get blown up in front of you. Thank the Lord for those guys,
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because if we weren't for them, we would not have the freedoms that we have in America right now.
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So yeah, medic, band of brothers, finally. Amen. Well, finally, so that's great. Well,
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I got more questions, but we're out of time. Is there anything else you want to get off your chest?
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No, I'm just so blessed to be on your show, Kyle. Thank you. I know that your reach is pretty
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immense. And what you do and what you stand for on your show is just something that is some,
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it's phenomenal. Keep doing what you're doing. You're awesome. And everyone really appreciates
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it. And to have to be on your show and talk about the last rodeo coming out this weekend,
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I'm so blessed and thank you. Thank you for your time. Thank you, Neil.
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There you go, guys. I hope you enjoyed my time with Neil McDonough. But before we let you go,
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