N.T. Wright is Pro-Abortion (Ep. 772)

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2:05 But guys today, we are continuing the clean out, right? That's the clean out of the quick hitters.

2:10 Over the next couple of weeks, I'll be cleaning out my entire backlog before we get into another

2:13 big run of interviews. But the first section is going to be about dumb and cowardly Christian

2:18 leaders. So we have pastor Josh Bice getting, or getting caught using burner accounts to talk trash

2:23 about other Christian leaders, pacifists, social justice warrior and left wing activists,

2:27 Shane Clayborn being arrested. Then we have an abortion section, shocking data showing the

2:31 abortion pill is incredibly dangerous for the women that take it. The French scientists that

2:35 invented the abortion pill dying at age 98, a teenager being sentenced to 35 years in prison

2:40 for slitting the throat of her newborn son after a secret birth, an old clip of a TV show going

2:46 viral for showing the callous evil of many women that get abortions. Then we have a short pride

2:50 month section here, Disney continuing to signal that they hate your values, but we'll take your

2:55 money target pretending to be patriotic, as opposed to worshipping at the altar of the LGBTQ plus

3:00 community. And then we got just another run of quick hitters here, me being even further validated

3:05 and vindicated with the Amman Khalif boxing controversy, my state of Oklahoma, their new law

3:10 allowing for the death penalty for first time child sex offenders, President Trump making

3:14 nice with a bonafide terrorist. Finally, settling the whole one man versus or sorry, 100 men versus

3:21 one gorilla thing, I'm going to give you the best and most complete answer on that. And guys,

3:25 if you stick with me all the way to the end, because it's a long show, we got a lot to cover.

3:28 There's going to be a very M night Shyamalan ending to today's episode. And so for those of you

3:35 that just have ants in your pants and just move on, you're going to miss it. I'm telling you,

3:38 you're going to want to hang on to the end. But before we get into the main topic for today,

3:42 just want to remind you guys that last year, we announced launch of our new discipleship coaching

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4:55 then you'll likely kind of stay stuck in your perpetual state of malaise. You're not going to

5:00 really develop as the godly man that you want to develop into. And it'll certainly lead to some

5:05 bitterness and regret later. But before we move on with today's episode, I did a short interview,

5:10 a short chat with James Sparrow. So James Sparrow is a member of Dominion team one.

5:15 So let's actually go to that interview here. All right, we've got James Sparrow from team one

5:20 here. And so we're only going to just going to do a couple of questions here. But first of all,

5:24 kind of give us an establishment thing. So how old are you? What is your retirement job versus your

5:29 job that you do now? And where do you live? 54 years old, I live in Wasil, Alaska, retired

5:37 Air Force Colonel spent 30 years in the Air Force. And now I fly for UPS as a pilot.

5:42 Okay, very good. Well, yeah, airplane scare me. I'll know why. But hey, I guess we were

5:48 able to fly through the air. But this is apparently just your everyday life. But I wanted to ask you,

5:53 just as a quick aside here in this episode, I wanted to ask you about one of the early aha moments

5:59 that you had during one of our very earliest interactions, where we were talking about specifically,

6:04 you know, your testimony and how that relates to how you were brought up and then kind of what we

6:09 what we talked through and kind of what what you realized. So go ahead and tell that story if you

6:13 would. Yeah, of course. And it definitely was an aha moment. I grew up, my dad was a Southern Baptist

6:19 minister. So I grew up in the church, you know, Sunday morning, Sunday evening, Wednesday night,

6:24 vacation Bible school, all that stuff, very young in South Carolina at the church, most of the time

6:31 felt like. But so I was saved at a very young age, seven or eight. I don't know the exact date,

6:37 somewhere in that ballpark. So I've always been kind of my testimony. I've always seen people

6:44 I give dramatic testimonies of how their life has changed night and day, like they were a drug

6:48 user and addict or something like that. And they were saved as an adult. And it's like a big

6:53 black and white change of their lifestyle and their relationship with with the Lord. In my case,

6:59 I always struggled with the fact that I was saved so young. And so I didn't really have that black

7:04 and white moment where there was this major is major to God, right? But it's not it wasn't a major

7:10 change in my life because then I was saved so young. And then I grew up, I grew up, right? And so,

7:15 you know, there was nothing there was no seminal moment in my mind. So I always struggle with that.

7:19 And so we had a discussion early on about that fact. I brought it up because it has,

7:24 you know, bothered me quite a bit throughout my adult years. And one of the things we kind of

7:29 settled on was it's, you know, it maybe it's okay to have a boring testimony, quote unquote,

7:34 because one, think about it with all the things that I would have probably done had I not been saved

7:39 at a young age. Of course, I still sin, we all sin and still dwells within us with the Holy Spirit

7:44 there to counter it. But, you know, what really hit me harder was when you brought up because

7:51 based on my biography and our discussions, you know, I have a grown son who's married,

7:54 I have two granddaughter seven and five, you brought up the fact that what I want my granddaughters

8:00 to have a boring testimony or something dramatic. And it really just resounded with me. It

8:07 just struck me like, Oh yeah, boring, we'd be good. I owe my granddaughters having a dramatic testimony.

8:15 And hence, it's also not a bad thing that I don't have a dramatic testimony. And so it really was,

8:18 it was, it was a very eye opening moment for me to kind of hear that and think that through.

8:25 And it's really resounded with me since. Well, I mean, it's a story that I've told on the show,

8:30 and I've told to a lot of people and James, to be honest with you, you and I going through that

8:34 discussion has helped so many other people that have been a similar place to you to where they

8:38 don't have that crazy story that and so there I was with my info and I'm bleeding out and like,

8:43 they just don't have that story. And so they felt like they were lesser than in the kingdom of God.

8:48 And, you know, through the Dominion program and through some of our discussions, we were able to

8:52 kind of work through that. But before let you go, just one quick question, I'll sneak in there on you.

8:56 There are guys that are on the fence about whether or not to apply or whether or not to jump and to

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9:07 we got together here in Oklahoma earlier this year. So tell me a little bit about the what you

9:12 would say to those guys that are on the fence right now. Yeah, I would say that the fence is not a

9:18 good place to be because the devil owns the fence. If you're indecisive and trying to make that

9:23 decision, you're not making any progress. So get off the fence, make the decision because the devil

9:28 owns it. I left admit that I didn't come up with that quote, but through a lot of research,

9:33 I don't know who did, but it's a fact. It's okay. In the age of the internet, you say the quote.

9:39 And if you're the last person to have said it, that means it's yours from now on again, guys,

9:43 undaunted dot life slash Dominion, undaunted dot life slash Dominion, get your applications in.

9:48 We're getting people in the programs right now, James, thanks again for coming on. You bet.

9:53 There you go, guys. I mean, James is such a tremendously impressive human being. And I'm just so thankful

9:59 that he was part of team one. And he's obviously gotten a tremendous amount of value out of it as

10:02 well. Again, the applications are live. You can just go to a link here in the show notes for today's

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10:33 going to get into the main topic and we will just be patient, especially if you're listening to this

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10:39 have been some people that have gone through the application process. And then they get to the

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10:46 all that like can you explain the program to me? It's like, no, you really need to have it explained

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13:17 But today we need to start off by talking about in T right. So I'm not sure if I've ever mentioned

13:22 him on the show before, but he is a very popular New Testament scholar. He has a big focus on the

13:28 apostle Paul. He's also a bishop of Durham. So that's a part of the Anglican church,

13:33 Anglican tradition. He's the author of over 70 books. And I would say for all intents and purposes,

13:38 the man has been a net positive for Christianity because of his totality of his life's work. He's

13:43 done a lot of things in this space. And even saying that he does have some thoughts and philosophies

13:48 that I don't quite quite agree with. So he's a proponent of what's called NPP. That's new

13:53 perspective on Paul. So some of the controversial ideas is, you know, justification is not primarily

14:00 about being declared, you know, righteous, right before God in a courtroom sense, but more about a

14:06 covenant membership who belongs to God's family, you know, righteousness of God refers to God's

14:11 covenant faithfulness, not a moral righteousness imputed to the believer. You know, works of the law

14:16 are boundary markers, kind of like, you know, the circumcision or dietary laws, not good works in

14:20 general. And you know, a lot of people object to that because he's just kind of undermining a lot

14:25 of things like penal substitution, justification by faith alone, the imputation of Christ's righteousness.

14:31 So, you know, people like D. A. Carson and R. C. Sproul and John Piper have come out against

14:35 some of the things that N T right has said. I think John MacArthur even called him N T right or N T

14:39 wrong at one point. And on the atonement view, he's basically just kind of dismissive of penal

14:45 substitutionary atonement from an eschatological point. He reinterprets many in times texts and

14:50 past events. So I'm not saying he's without his warts or without his philosophy that are just kind

14:54 of a little bit strange. So again, some of this I can disagree with him on, right? But many of it

15:01 can just be lumped into the agreed to disagree category, or we couldn't possibly know category.

15:05 But he's made some statements about abortion recently that I find absolutely abhorrent and

15:12 completely out of step with a biblical ethic on life. So, so N T right does a show one premiere UK,

15:19 it's called Ask N T right anything that's the same organization that Justin Breyer leaves to have a

15:23 show on where people can just send in questions and he'll ask them they can be biblically based

15:26 questions, cultural questions, whatever. But in this episode, he was asked about certain situations

15:31 where abortion would be okay. Right. So what are those hard cases or what are those times when

15:35 abortion is acceptable or morally okay. So as a bishop and Christian leader, this is actually a

15:42 very, very easy question to answer. Or at least you should be, because I teach people to answer

15:47 the question in a few steps. Okay. The first step is to start with the pro life argument.

15:52 The pro life argument is incredibly simple. And we all just need to memorize it. Part one,

15:56 abortion intentionally and directly kills innocent human life. Part two, it is always wrong to

16:03 intentionally and directly kill innocent human life. Period. That's the pro life argument.

16:08 Abortion intentionally and directly kills innocent human life is always wrong to

16:12 intentionally and directly kill innocent human life. Like this isn't that hard. And the next step is

16:16 make it a gospel plea. I mean, I started out my presentations on abortion with Romans A1,

16:21 there's therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Okay. So if you've had an

16:26 abortion, that doesn't mean you can't be saved. It just is an example of your depravity, your flavor

16:31 of depravity, right? But as we'll see in this clip, in T right doesn't do that. He doesn't really

16:37 follow what I would prescribe for him to do. So let's actually go to the clip here. This clip

16:41 was kind of put together by protestia. So you can find the entire clip of his answer because it's a

16:45 fairly long kind of meandering answer. But let's just go ahead and go to the clip here.

16:48 GP in that case, which was a Christian, devout Christian GP said, we're going to do the tests.

16:53 And if she has been exposed to rubella, if there's a threat of serious defamation or whatever,

17:01 then we will recommend termination. And I remember my heart in my mouth when I heard that and thinking,

17:06 do I really agree with that? But at the time, it was absolutely clear for the mental health,

17:13 never mind anything else of the mother and the potential father as well, that this

17:18 was the way to go. In fact, there are many, many cases where it is about the mother's health versus

17:24 the health of the child or whatever. And particularly that, as you cited in cases of rape or in cases

17:30 of incest, there may be a very, very strong argument for saying this ought never to have happened.

17:36 And with sorrow, because we do not want to do this in principle, but with sorrow and a bit of shame,

17:43 the best thing to do is as soon as possible to terminate this pregnancy. Now, I've seen the

17:50 debates. I've read books about the debates as to at what point it becomes not okay.

17:58 And I know that in my own country, people have pushed for the legislation to be allowed to say

18:03 right up to the moment before the woman is ready to give birth, that if they decide for whatever

18:08 reason on an abortion, then that's okay. And that I find not only wrong, but repulsive,

18:16 because if you wait till the child's been born, and then say, well, we didn't really want a girl

18:20 this time, so we'll just get rid of her, then that would be a criminal act. And quite rightly so,

18:26 that would be murder. And it would be a pagan thing. This is something we must never forget,

18:30 that in the ancient world, people regularly, when they had a child they didn't want,

18:35 especially for the individual. Especially for the individual. This is not something which we

18:39 should welcome. It is not something which we should collude with. At the same time, there may be

18:44 certain exceptions of which severe deformity might be one of which certainly incest and rape

18:50 would be others. And in those cases, I would say the sooner the better, because at a certain point,

18:56 and I am not medically qualified to say at what point I would draw a line, then this is a viable

19:03 human being that should then be cherished. So the whole debate about the woman's rights,

19:08 it's very difficult. It's very hard for a man to talk about this. And indeed, one of the problems

19:13 has been, particularly in the Roman Catholic Church, when women particularly say a girl who's been

19:18 raped or who's had incest committed on her, then discovering that unmarried men from the Catholic

19:26 hierarchy are telling her what she can and can't do. As people now say, the optics

19:32 of that are pretty bad. That's part of the same system of male bullying, which we have to avoid

19:38 like the plague. However, having said that, I do think that that sense of respect for God's creation

19:46 in all its rich variety is the primary starting point. Even if we then have to say with sorrow

19:53 and a certain sense of this is the least worst option in this situation, that there may be some

19:59 cases of exceptions. That that's about as far as I can get at the moment. And as I say, I'm very

20:03 much aware of just how sensitive this topic is politically, sociologically, as well as ethically.

20:09 All right, so there's a lot there. So we need to go and break this down. So at the beginning,

20:14 Enthirai talks about the hard case where or a particular hard case that involved him,

20:19 where the pregnant mother was potentially exposed to rubella, which could lead to issues for babies,

20:25 not a guarantee, but it could. And he says that the supposedly Christian doctor in this situation

20:30 was going to recommend termination if there was exposure. Okay. So Wright talks about how that

20:35 caused him some consternation initially, but eventually and seemingly quickly, he came to the

20:39 conclusion that it would be okay because of the mental health of the mother and the father as well.

20:45 So this is part of the issue with people talking about health of the mother, right?

20:49 Because they don't always say medical health or physical health of the mother. Sometimes,

20:55 moms may be sad if they're forced to carry this baby to term in almost all cases, a baby that

21:02 they was created because of a consensual sexual encounter, right? But that's the same thing for

21:09 babies that are outside the womb. My five year old and three year old caused me quite a bit of

21:13 mental consternation. Should I be able to kill them? Right? They affect my mental health negatively

21:18 sometimes. Should I be able to kill them when I'm in one of those moments, right? He doesn't really

21:22 deal with that, but he's just talking about mental health. But this can be extended out to

21:27 emotional health to financial health, right? So that's where the arguments are so unraveled.

21:32 Then he brings up the hard cases like rape and incest, which is kind of the new default

21:35 mechanism for the pro abortion crowd that used to be like a last resort. Now it's like their first

21:39 argument, right? Which kind of tells you about whether or not their position is actually strong,

21:42 which means that it's not. And he says that there are there is a he said very, very strong

21:48 argument for terminating the pregnancy. Okay. So terminating the pregnancy, that's a macabre

21:53 euphemism, because this ought not to have happened. So essentially, according to him, since the

22:00 circumstances of the conception were sinful and evil, we should add to the evil sin of the situation

22:06 by killing the child. Like that, that's his idea. He said there's a very, very strong argument

22:11 because it ought not have happened that way. That's somehow if we kill the baby, it undoes the

22:17 thing that ought not have happened. Right? I mean, the host clearly doesn't like challenge him on

22:22 this. You can go back and watch the entire thing. It's foolish, right? It literally doesn't follow

22:27 at all. And big, any again, he's using euphemisms like terminating the pregnancy. So typically,

22:33 that's like a trigger. If you hear someone say something like that, that that's cause for concern.

22:41 Excuse me. Then he makes a subtle, but very egregious comment. Okay, again, it's very subtle.

22:47 He states that with sorrow and a bit of shame, they should terminate the pregnancy.

22:53 So there's two main problems here. The first one is this. If abortion is the moral and righteous

23:00 choice in this situation, then why would it need to be accompanied with sorrow and shame?

23:06 Like if I have a mosquito in my arm and I swatted and kill it or I flick it away,

23:12 I don't do that with sorrow and shame. It's a morally neutral act, right? If I pick up this pin

23:18 and then set it back down, I don't need to do that with sorrow and shame. It's a morally neutral act.

23:24 So if abortion is righteous here, at best or even at worst morally neutral, why in the world would

23:31 we need sorrow and shame? And the second main problem is kind of what I talked about a second

23:35 ago. He's a fan of saying terminate the pregnancy. When you say that phrase, it shows a complete

23:42 disregard for the amago day, the, the image of God that is on the baby that's being destroyed.

23:48 Oh, we're just terminating a pregnancy. What does that mean? What is being terminated?

23:53 When we terminate a pregnancy, what ends, right? It's the life of the child.

24:00 That's what happens, right? If I get, you know, a wart removed, right, a successful wart removal

24:06 means that the wart is no longer on my body. When you terminate a pregnancy, you're terminating a

24:14 human life. So the use of euphemisms is incredibly, incredibly dangerous and concerning here.

24:19 Then he talks about how in cases of severe deformity, that it kind of brings up, you know,

24:26 rape and incest again, and that it would be okay in his view to kill those people.

24:31 Because in his mind, if you're deformed, or if you were conceived in sinful circumstances,

24:36 then you're not worthy of life nor protection. Because ask any deformed person, you know,

24:41 guys, just go walk up to someone on the street that's got a clear deformity and just be like,

24:45 wouldn't you rather be dead? I mean, this theologian thinks it's a better thing for

24:51 you to be dead than to be physically deformed. Would you maybe be aghast if they were to respond to

24:58 you like you're insane? Because I think people that are alive for the most part are glad that

25:02 they're alive, right? Whether they're deformed or not, they're born, you know, missing parts of

25:09 their body, or they've got additional parts of their body or something, something's gone wrong.

25:12 I think they're still okay with being alive, though. Just call it a hunch.

25:16 But then into right gets to an argument that should prove to everyone that you can simultaneously

25:21 be very, very smart and very, very dumb. He's arguing that abortion should take place as soon as

25:26 possible, his words. Essentially, if the baby gets, you know, bigger and bigger that the abortion

25:31 will feel more icky in his view, but then he makes this stunning admission, which literally,

25:37 if he had any legs underneath him at this time, which he really doesn't just chop those out

25:40 entirely, he says this and I'm quoting it directly, I'm not medically qualified to say at what point

25:46 I would draw a line, then this is a viable human being that should be cherished. So follow me here.

25:53 If you actually believe that, Mr. Wright, then wouldn't the cautious and moral way to operate

26:01 be to err on the side of preserving life? You say, well, I'm not a doctor and I qualified to say

26:10 when human life begins, but that settled science, sir, do a quick Google search, even have chat

26:18 GPT help you. And it would let you know that life and new human life comes into existence

26:25 at conception when a one cell sperm cell meets with a one cell egg cell and creates a one cell

26:30 zygote in that moment. All of your DNA is present. The only place in the universe where DNA sprouts

26:35 out of nowhere, miraculously, is in that moment. But you're saying, oh, we don't really know. I mean,

26:43 I'm going to pilot this. I'm just going to like, you know, wash my hands a bit like I don't want

26:46 to have any guilt here. But then you want to say, yeah, but we should go ahead and kill that baby.

26:50 Well, you can't have it both ways, right? You can't have it both ways. He's trying to,

26:57 but you can't. Then he just becomes this, you know, slobbering, wimpy, emasculated,

27:02 coward, making, you know, a derivative of the my body, my choice argument for the woman,

27:06 essentially defending the argument that men shouldn't have an opinion on that and all these

27:09 different things. And the major issue with that point of view, there's a lot of them most to be

27:13 y'all just go quickly through them. Every conception involves a father that has rights to that child.

27:19 So that's why abortion is a men's issue, a man's issue. Also,

27:25 anti right and people that think like him are seemingly okay with the opinions of men that

27:30 agree with their point of view, right? So they're okay with you having a point of view. If you happen

27:35 to be a male that agrees with them, isn't that so interesting? And again, we're not talking about

27:40 her body. We're talking about the body that is inside of her body. So again, he's, he's arguing

27:48 a point that no one's making. And then he essentially concludes his meandering nonsense

27:51 cool ramblings on the topic by couching abortion as the least worst option in this situation,

27:57 which brings up a very important question for anti right and people that think like he does.

28:01 What is the middle position on abortion? You've heard me pose a question like this before, right?

28:08 What is the third way option on abortion? Do we only partially kill the baby?

28:13 We just kill them during parts of the human development that don't make us feel funny on the

28:20 inside? It's the same thing on the trans debate. Do we only cut off part of the 14 year old healthy

28:26 breast tissue? Do we only cut off a chunk of the little boy's penis? Do we only give them stuff

28:32 that's only going to partially medically sterilize them? Right? So again, the least worst option in

28:38 this situation. What are the options here? This is a binary thing. It's either morally abhorrent

28:45 and we shouldn't do it or it's completely acceptable. But he doesn't see it that way.

28:51 So what can we surmise from these answers from anti right? The only thing that you can surmise

28:56 from these answers is that he's pro abortion. I mean, let me be clear, if you support abortion

29:04 in any form for any reason and in any circumstance, then you're pro abortion.

29:10 Because duh, because that's how words work, right? If you were in support of it, even in 1% of the

29:19 cases or a fraction of 1% of the cases, then you're pro it. Right? It's not like, again, this is

29:26 another binary thing. You're not partially pro abortion and partially pro life. You can't be on

29:31 both teams. You can't have a foot in both camps. You have to pick one. So with some people, guys,

29:37 and we've talked about this before, you can eat the meat and spit out the bones. But this is just

29:41 a warning to all of us listening to this just because you like or support the work of a popular

29:46 Christian, author, you know, podcast or speaker, whatever, that doesn't mean that you should just

29:51 mirror all of their worldviews and philosophies. Okay, we still have to let the word of God be our

29:56 guide. And according to the Bible, life begins a conception and we are never to take innocent

30:04 human lives. Somebody should give the breaking news to anti right. Hey, guys, real quick. I know a

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31:33 of where and when you work out Sorenex.com. All right, guys, let's get to the quick hitters.

31:39 This is our dumb Christian leaders section. So Pastor Josh Bice getting caught using burner

31:43 accounts to talk trash about other Christian leaders. This is according to church leaders on

31:47 May the 12th. Dr. Josh Bice, pastor of Praise Mills or Praise Mill Baptist Church, PMBC,

31:53 and founder of G3 Ministries, resigned as president of G3 Ministries after PMBC Elders

32:00 discovered Boyce had been using multiple anonymous social media accounts to speak ill of Christian

32:05 leaders both publicly and privately. In a statement released by PMBC, the elders shared that they

32:10 uncovered irrefutable evidence that Dr. Bice has for the past three years operated lease for

32:16 anonymous social media accounts to anonymous email addresses and to sub-stack platforms.

32:21 These accounts were used to publicly and anonymously slander numerous Christian leaders,

32:25 including faithful pastors, some of whom have spoken at G3 conferences, several PMBC elders,

32:31 and others, the statement continued. These actions were not only sinful in nature,

32:36 but deeply divisive, causing a necessary suspicion and strife within the body of Christ,

32:40 and particularly within the eldership of PMBC. Although Bice told the elders that he believes

32:45 he is presently disqualified to serve as the elder of PMBC, the elders told the congregation

32:50 that they do not believe at this time that this sin is necessarily permanently disqualifying.

32:55 For the time being, the elders have placed Bice on indefinitely from the church until they

33:00 are able to determine a more detailed path forward. I got to tell you this from the beginning.

33:04 I was not a consumer of his content. I had heard the name before. I'd obviously heard a G3

33:09 enough to know that when it came across my feed, I gave me pause or whatever, like,

33:14 "Oh, I need to read this." But my goodness, what a gigantic, slobbery coward, right? There are

33:21 other words I have in mind, but really, you made burner accounts? You all remember when Kevin

33:28 Durant did that back in the day? How he was just dragged for that, creating burner accounts that

33:32 he could go back and forth with fans that didn't like his hero ball when he was playing on the

33:36 Oklahoma City Thunder. Like, really, this was your best course of action? I don't like what these

33:43 people are saying, so I'm going to create a doofus-dork 1987, and I'm going to create this profile,

33:49 and I'm, "Oh, man, I'm going to flame him." Like, you're not just going to go to these men,

33:55 like a man, and hash out any issues you have, right? I mean, because he had direct lines of

34:01 communication with the people that he was trashing, but he had no concept of how to do that.

34:09 He literally hid behind his keyboard. You talk about keyboard warriors, that's this guy.

34:13 Let's go to my big takeaway here. Sometimes pastors show you who they truly are, and perhaps we

34:18 should believe them. So, I'm not saying that this guy is disqualified from ministry from the rest of

34:24 his life. I don't know him personally. I'm not one of the elders of his church. I don't get to make

34:27 that determination, but this is indicative of a deep-seeded rot inside of this man, and this rot is

34:36 directly tied to cowardice, and according to the writer of Hebrews, a pastor has to give an account

34:42 someday for how he shepherded his flock, and the shepherd protects his sheep from the wolf.

34:48 In this situation, I'm pretty sure he just proved that he doesn't have the stones to do that.

34:54 Now, hopefully, we should all be praying that he becomes the man that his congregation requires

35:02 and needs, and if he doesn't, that he goes and does something else. Drives a UPS truck or

35:07 start selling insurance or becomes a cop. Some cop would be terrible because we need less

35:12 cowards in that profession, not more, but he could just go do anything else. Just go do something

35:17 else. You're just not going to be a pastor anymore, disqualify yourself if you're going to do it that

35:21 way. But again, someone that's not cowardly or sorry, someone that's not brave, that's not courageous,

35:28 it's going to take an act of God to make that person courageous and brave. You know what I mean?

35:34 And so, to any members of that church, or if the elderboard or any of those people are listening

35:39 to this, I mean, my goodness, give the guy some time to prove himself, but do not allow him to

35:44 ascend back to the pastorate, to behind the pulpit, or in any way, shape or form, be an elder on that

35:50 church. If he continues to prove that he to the core of who he is, is a cowardly weak little man.

35:55 All right, next quick hitter here, pacifist, social justice lawyer, and left-wing activist

36:00 Shane Claiborne being arrested. So if you're familiar with that name, and if you're looking

36:03 at me right now and you see the grin on my face, it's probably because you watched me and him debate

36:08 one time back in the day. So Justin Briarley reached out to me had already been on his show

36:12 before and believable to do a debate. And he's like, hey, I got a guy coming on, he's a pacifist

36:17 Christian. He wants to do a debate on Second Amendment stuff. Would you be interested in being on the

36:21 other side of the debate? And I was like, I responded to Justin, I was like, yeah, that's like not even

36:26 in the top 10 things of that I talk about ever. But yeah, this is like the easiest thing in the

36:30 world to defend why we should be able to defend ourselves with firearms and different things that

36:36 we choose to legally defend ourselves with. And so we do the debate, I'll put that in the show

36:40 notes. And I mean, I just pants the guy, right? Like, because he has a non-defensible position,

36:48 I even trapped him at one point, which I had planned for weeks, I trapped him with the scenario

36:52 in which I've talked about on the show before where he's in his house, someone breaks in,

36:57 you know, he goes to look and he gets back to the bedroom and oops, there's his wife in bed and

37:00 there's the bad guy, he's ready to kill her. What are you going to do? Well, I'm going to call the

37:04 police. Well, they're in Philadelphia. So if they come at all, it's going to be a while before they

37:08 get there. So now what are you going to do? And I just kind of kept pushing, kept pushing, kept

37:10 pushing. And they finally admitted that he would use physical force to try and stop the guy. And

37:14 it's like, okay, well, you're going to be using your limp little wrists. And he's going to be using

37:18 a knife or a gun. My money's on him, right? And so he just looked foolish during the debate. It's a

37:23 guy that has a very soft heart, but it's led to him having a very, very soft head as well.

37:27 But this leads us to a report from church leaders on May the six, five faith leaders were arrested

37:32 while praying at the US Capitol Rotunda on Monday, May the 5th, the second time in his many weeks,

37:36 clergy and others have been handcuffed as they speak out against the Republican led budget bill.

37:41 Among those arrested was Shane Claiborne, a longtime activist and co director of Red Letter

37:44 Christians, a Christian social justice group, Claiborne, who is based in Philadelphia and known for his

37:49 long standing opposition to the death penalty and gun violence, prayed side by side with others for

37:53 several minutes in the Rotunda before eventually being arrested by Capitol police, reorder our

37:58 moral compass, Claiborne said, standing near a statue commemorating famous suffragists and abolitionists

38:03 through the conscience of our nation. Let justice rise up. These very steps let truth trouble the

38:09 chambers of the Capitol. Let there be no peace where there is no justice. Let there be no comfort

38:13 that those who legislate cruelty. It's obviously Shane Claiborne is a guy that gets his, you know,

38:19 slogans and all that from the internet. So it's very awesome sounding. But basically,

38:25 these people are looking at the budget bill, which hasn't even been passed yet. And they're

38:28 saying, Oh, this is going to make life harder for poor people. And it's going to take people off

38:31 Medicaid. And it's going to do all these things that nobody that's currently in support of the bill

38:35 is planning to let the bill have in it. Okay. So it's partially a misunderstanding what the bill

38:41 is going to do and what it's not going to do. My big takeaway on this one, Shane Claiborne is a

38:46 deeply unserious person. I think if you read any of his writings or listen to him talk on any of

38:50 these issues, I think he fervently feels the way he feels about these issues. But he doesn't take a

38:55 lot of time to think through the issues. But if he's not going to start thinking through the issues

39:00 or really taking his research seriously, I hope he keeps doing dumb things like this,

39:04 because people are going to look at him like his literally tens of fans are going to look at him and

39:09 be like, is this really what we're supposed to be doing? Are you a Christian? Are you an activist?

39:15 Because he's basically just parroting everything left wing activist parrot. But he's just wrapping

39:21 it in Christian ease and scripture that's taken out of context. Right. And so for people like Shane

39:27 Claiborne, we should primarily pray that they come to like saving faith. You know, I don't see any

39:32 creation that is not a Christian, but they should come to a realistic view of the world and what

39:37 justice actually looks like. And if not, we should pray that they should double the amount of clown

39:42 makeup that they wear so that we don't look to those people when we need wisdom. Because those

39:46 are people that are just not filled with it. All right. Next one here, this is the abortion

39:50 section. So a shocking a dump of data showing the abortion pill is incredibly dangerous for the

39:55 women that take it. This is according to Breitbart on April the 28th. While the abortion pill is

39:59 touted as safe and effective, shocking new data suggests complications are 22 times higher

40:05 than previously reported. A study from the ethics and public policy center released on Monday

40:09 found that 10.93% of women who had mythopristone abortions, the first drug used in two drug medication

40:16 abortions regimen experienced severe complications, including sepsis infection, hemorrhaging or another

40:22 serious adverse event within 45 days following the abortion. This percentage is significantly

40:27 higher than the less than 0.5% of clinical trials reported on the FDA FDA approved drug label.

40:34 The study is the largest known study of the abortion pill. According to the authors,

40:38 ethics and public policy center president Ryan T. Anderson and director of data analysis and fellow

40:42 Jamie Brian Hall. The study is based on analysis of data from an all play all payer insurance claims

40:48 database that includes 865,727 prescribed mythopristone abortions from 2017 to 2023,

40:57 meaning the results of the study are based on real world incidents. So let's go to a couple of big

41:02 takeaways here. The first is there is a reason why the FDA and pro-abortion groups don't want you

41:10 to know about this. Did you know about this? I bet you didn't. But there's a reason why they

41:14 don't want you to know about it is because they know that the abortion pill is the future of their

41:21 industry. They know it's the future because over half of the abortions in the United States now

41:28 take place via the abortion pill. They're not surgical abortions. They are pill form. Okay.

41:33 They're going to fight to make that 100% of abortions because this type of abortion isn't

41:39 as icky. Let's go back to stuff I was saying within T right. Why was he saying let's terminate

41:44 the pregnancy as quickly as possible? Because when it's in eight weeks of fetal development

41:50 and not eight months of fetal development, it doesn't feel as bad. It's just this kind of like

41:55 little thing that kind of looks human-esque or human-like, even though it's DNA is all there.

42:00 All of its major organs are there and functioning properly. It's currently dreaming. It recoils

42:04 from pain, you know, all those silly little things, right? But when it's eight months of gestation,

42:09 whoa, starting to look like a baby, right? Can live outside the womb with some assistance,

42:15 but can live outside the womb, right? But this is the direction they want to go.

42:22 Because if you're four weeks pregnant and you can just take a couple of pills, like the no biggie,

42:27 right? But the second big takeaway here on this is loss in all this, you know, how dangerous the

42:33 pill is for the moms, which it clearly is, is how dangerous this pill is for the babies.

42:39 Because the abortion pill regimen is over 95% effective in producing death. Over 95% effective.

42:48 So as much as we should talk about stories like this, this loss in all this and it gets lost in

42:54 a lot of the kerfuffle of the abortion topic is the baby that can't defend itself. So let's actually

43:00 keep this going because we're going to talk about the French scientist who invented the abortion

43:03 pill dying at 98 years old. So this is according to National Right to Life on June the 3rd.

43:08 18, Emil Ballyu, the French scientist who invented the abortion pill, died on Friday at his home in

43:13 Paris. He was 98 years old. Ballyu was instrumental in developing the drug RU-486,

43:18 which is meant for prestone. The first drug of the two drug abortion pill regimen,

43:22 which is responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent preborn children around the world.

43:26 Since its approval under the Clinton administration in 2000,

43:29 the abortion pill has killed more than five million children in the United States alone.

43:34 And according to the pro-abortion Goodmacher Institute, the abortion pill accounted for 63%

43:39 of all U.S. abortions in 2023. So this man is directly responsible for helping to murder millions

43:47 of human beings across the world. We will never know the exact statistics, but we're talking about

43:52 tens of millions of babies around the world have been eradicated because of what this man created.

43:58 Okay, so here's a little fun fact that I learned from another pro-life or Seth Gruber.

44:03 So RU-486, Miffer prestone, that stands for Rusell Uclov. Okay, Rusell Uclov, that's the the RU,

44:11 Rusell Uclov. So Rusell Uclov is a French pharmaceutical company that invented the abortion pill,

44:17 right? That's who this guy worked for. So a majority shareholder of Rusell Uclov is Hookst AG.

44:24 So Hookst AG was the co-founder of a group called IG Farben. Now, considering that, you know,

44:33 most of you guys were several layers deep, you may not be familiar with that. But IG Farben

44:38 is a German chemical and pharmaceutical conglomerate that became infamous for inventing a cyanide gas

44:45 called Zyklon B. Now, that should sound familiar to you because Zyklon B was the gas used to kill

44:53 the Jews in the Nazi death camps during the Holocaust. You see how all these satanic people are like

45:00 connected? All these anti-human people, right? They're all connected. So my big takeaway on this

45:07 one, I've been fairly consistent on these people. So I'll keep it going. I hope that this man

45:13 accepted Christ before he died. I do. But if he did not, I hope he is currently burning in the hottest

45:21 section of hell. Our next quick hitter here, a teenager being sentenced to 35 years in prison

45:27 for slitting the throat of her newborn baby son after a secret birth. This is according to the

45:32 New York Post on April the 25th, a twisted Nebraska teen was handed a decades long sentence Thursday

45:37 for fatally slashing her newborn son's throat just moments after secretly giving birth in her

45:41 childhood bedroom. According to reports, Chloe Copeland Anderson, 18 will spend the next 35 to 60

45:48 years behind bars after pleading no contest to second degree murder for the heartless killing

45:52 according to the Nebraska Attorney General's office. Prosecutors said that the cold-hearted

45:57 teen who was 16 years old at the time delivered the baby boy in secret at her Gordon home before

46:02 retrieving a knife from the kitchen on November the 6th, 2023. The new mom who hid her pregnancy

46:07 from her parents hurried back to her bedroom where she slit the justborn baby's throat,

46:12 according to an arrest affidavit obtained by people. So obviously just an absolutely blood curdling

46:20 horrific situation. So much here that we don't have answers to how could a teenage girl hide a

46:26 pregnancy for nine months. You know, no one heard the baby cry when it came out. And then her her

46:33 first idea was to grab a butcher's knife and slit the throat of a baby who had just gotten

46:38 outside the one. So big takeaway on this one. If this young lady had simply paid an assassin

46:47 to do it, you know, an abortion doctor, she would have been participating in the feminist fever

46:52 dream of sex without consequences. Isn't that what it what happened here? There's no report that

46:59 this girl was raped. And so she engaged in consensual sex, became pregnant as a part of that

47:04 consensual sexual act. New life was magically and amazingly created. And her first thought when the

47:12 baby was outside the womb is I got to kill this thing. For what reason we don't know, but probably

47:18 for the same reasons that most women, you know, kill their children is because it's going to be an

47:22 inconvenience. Right? I mean, that's essentially what we're looking at. But what is the fundamental

47:29 difference between what this girl did and what an abortionist would have done? So again, let's

47:35 let's go to the exact same scenario. The morning that she's going to give birth to this baby boy.

47:39 Let's say she goes to a clinic and has the baby killed in a late term abortion. I assume she would

47:46 get that done at a place where that is legal. And so a person that's pro abortion is going to say

47:51 that's okay. But they look aghast at a situation like this, like, how could a woman kill her newborn

47:57 baby? Guys, it's the same baby. It's geographical location has changed. Right? And so this is part

48:08 of the seared conscience that we have collectively on this issue is that people will hear about

48:13 someone getting an abortion. They're like, Oh, that's that's just downright unfortunate. But then they

48:17 hear about this girl that slits a baby's throat and they're like, Oh my gosh, what a demon. Guys,

48:22 it's the same thing. It's the same exact thing. All right. Now we need to go to an old clip of the

48:28 TV show that's going viral here in the last couple of weeks, because it shows the callous evil of

48:33 many women that are getting abortions. So this is a clip from a show called girls. So let's actually

48:37 go to the clip here. No, I can't go for a run because I had an abortion yesterday. I can't go for

48:46 a run and I can't take a bath or use a tampon or have intercourse like a week. Are you, uh,

48:57 what? Yeah, just a couple of things I can't do because I had an abortion yesterday.

49:06 Was it mine? Yeah, of course it was yours.

49:08 I didn't want to talk about it beforehand. I just wanted to do it.

49:18 But I haven't shared with boyfriends in the past. I'm trying to be more open with you.

49:23 They're trying to be open with me. How many abortions have you had?

49:26 I'm not going to share that with you because that is private. I'm not going to ask you how many

49:32 girls you've gotten pregnant. None. It's not private. I've gotten no girls pregnant except for you now.

49:37 Who [inaudible] went with you? My friend's two Ellen Garth. I don't even know her.

49:53 You'll meet her. She's a somnambulist. Who did it? Who aborted you?

49:59 A doctor named Gunita did the procedure. She delivered my cousin's baby.

50:02 Was it a boy or a girl? My cousin's baby's a girl. No! Hours!

50:08 It was a ball of cells. It was smaller than a seed pearl. It didn't have a penis or a vagina.

50:16 Isn't this a decision that people typically make together? So you wanted a baby?

50:20 Maybe. That's kind of absurd. We've been together for less than seven weeks. I don't think that we're

50:26 ready for a child. Crazier things have happened. People do crazy things. My parents got married

50:31 after a [inaudible] week. Okay, so we should have the baby and put it in your toolbox as a cradle and

50:37 feed it sardines and tell it that you don't know my middle name? It's Rose! No, my first name is

50:42 maybe Rose. My middle name is Eleanor. I don't understand how you could do something like that

50:47 without talking to me first. If it's evil! You're right, you don't understand.

50:56 All right, so a lot of things to talk about with that. That should produce quite a bit of a motion

51:06 for you guys. But Planned Parenthood, believe it or not, they actually consulted on the script for

51:10 this episode. So we can take that to mean that this entire scene was concocted to make the man

51:18 look psychopathic and unhinged. Even though anyone operating with a functioning conscience

51:24 can see that this woman is evil, and she's psychopathic, and during this interaction,

51:29 she's just an awful, awful person. And this is a situation that has happened.

51:36 Let's go the big takeaways on this. I got a couple. First one. What this scene depicts is the majority

51:40 of women that get abortions. Oh, that sounds so terrible and judgmental. It's true. Statistically

51:47 speaking, almost 100% of abortions in this country take place because of reasons of inconvenience.

51:53 The baby is inconvenient. I already have kids. I don't want more. Oh, I'm too young, or I haven't

51:58 finished school yet, or I don't know who the dad is because I'm a whore, or whatever the situation

52:02 is. It's because it would be inconvenient on them to have the baby and care for the baby, right?

52:08 An incredibly small percentage. Again, life of the mother's not a real thing, but rape and incest,

52:13 incredibly, incredibly, incredibly small percentage of abortions are listed for those reasons.

52:17 Most women have bought the feminist lie that I'm going to spread my legs for any available

52:24 dick. And I'm going to take it. And if I get pregnant, no biggie, I'll just get it taken care

52:29 of. I'll go have a surgical abortion, or I'll take the morning after pill, which is an abortive

52:34 patient, or I'm just going to take mythopristone, right, and follow that up with another pill that's

52:39 going to expel the dead baby from my body, right? And they see no problem with this. Again, we get

52:45 this idea from everyone that's pro abortion and even a lot of pro-life people that most women

52:50 getting abortions have no idea what they're doing. They have no idea, no clue. They don't know that

52:55 that's an actual human being with a beating heart in there. They're just completely aloof to the

53:00 entire situation. Like, do y'all honestly believe that? That they have no idea that there's another

53:05 human being inside of them. That's currently taking up space in the world. Just so happens to be inside

53:10 of their bodies. No, these are women that just don't care. They don't care that it's a baby. It

53:16 doesn't make a single shred of difference to them. And the second thing here is fathers are almost

53:22 completely forgotten in the abortion debate because again, this scene is meant to make the man look

53:30 completely unhinged, throwing stuff off the table, getting mad, yelling. Yeah. His progeny was murdered

53:38 before he even knew the progeny was in existence. And as men, we are very, very innately focused on

53:46 our progeny. That's why men get so emotional when they have a son. And that's not to denigrate men

53:52 with daughters by any stretch of the imagination. But when you have a son, there's an innate sense

53:57 and knowing that your name and your genes will continue on, right? And that's a very, very important

54:04 combo for most men. But then men have no rights in this abortion debate for whatever reason.

54:10 So these fathers, I've seen these absolutely horrific videos of men outside locked abortion

54:16 facilities, banging on the windows and doors, screaming for their girlfriends or their wives

54:21 or whoever to not kill their child. And that father has no recourse. They can't call the police.

54:28 They can't file suit. They can't do anything. Now there's some groups that are trying to change

54:31 that, right? So there's a group in Texas that's trying to make it to where if your baby is killed

54:35 against against your, your will, desire or knowledge, that you can sue the mother for murdering your

54:42 child, which seems incredibly reasonable to me. But when we talk about the abortion topic,

54:48 we got to remember that the fathers are certainly involved. Okay, let's get to the Pride Month

54:53 section of the quick hitters here. Disney continuing to signal that they hate your values, but we'll

54:57 take your money. So this was opposed by Libs of TikTok on a June the 1st. And so land and shout

55:03 out to my editor. If you'll put up this picture real quick, bam, doing it live. So there you see

55:07 it there and it's all it's glory. So this is on the main homepage for Disney Plus, right? Immediately

55:14 on June 1st, ready to go. Okay. But don't worry, parents, Disney's definitely not trying to corrupt

55:21 your children by convincing them that sinful and abominable lifestyles are just normal. They're just

55:27 love, right? They're not trying to do that. Big takeaway on this one, parents, wake up,

55:37 stop giving money to companies that openly hate your values. I don't understand it. And I'm surrounded

55:48 by people that that think this way. Literally to this day, I have not heard a single good argument

55:53 from a Christian conservative parent as to why it's okay to continue supporting Disney.

55:57 And yet, as if compelled by some unstoppable force in the universe, these parents continue

56:03 paying for Disney plus dropping thousands of dollars on Disney theme park and cruise trips.

56:09 And they take the entire family to go see whatever new Disney movie is released in theaters.

56:13 And some of these same families want to complain and lament about some of the nasty and nefarious

56:18 things that Disney's doing as they fund it. I mean, seriously, what else does this company need to do

56:26 to rub it in your face that they hate your Christian conservative values? Are they the only organization

56:32 out there that has theme parks that makes cartoons that makes crappy, you know, kid shows or whatever?

56:42 Are they the only organization that can do it? Right? Here's the thing guys, if you're going to be full

56:47 of crap, at least be upfront. I mean, isn't that fair? Just be upfront with it. Just admit that you

56:56 value the IP, right? The intellectual property of Disney above every other moral consideration, right?

57:04 Kyle, I get it, but I really like the Lion King. So I'm going to be pro Disney until I die. Kyle,

57:09 I understand this is crazy. But you know what? I have all those VHSes from when I was a kid,

57:14 and I'm still living as if I'm four years old. Now, I would think that you're crazy for thinking

57:20 that, but at least you'd be acting with at least a shred of intellectually honest intellectual honesty,

57:25 right? But again, what does Disney have to do? We have on tape proof that someone working inside

57:33 Disney was creating content with a not so gay agenda or not so secret gay agenda, right?

57:39 They're they're infusing it into the shows. Why? To make your kids think that that is okay.

57:45 And you take them to church with you on Sunday, you know, when it doesn't conflict with the

57:50 travel baseball schedule or go into the lake, right? But you make sure you bring your kids

57:54 to church with you on Sunday sometimes. And then you expect them to get a biblical sexual ethic.

57:59 Like parents, what are you doing? How moronic is this? How ignorant is this? Stop funding people

58:08 that hate you. So let's move on to talk about target. Target is currently pretending to be

58:14 patriotic as opposed to worshiping at the altar, the LGBTQ plus a community here. So this is according

58:19 to TPUSA on June the fourth target has received positive attention from conservatives after customers

58:24 notice a significant reduction in its pride month displays at the start of June with many stores,

58:29 instead prominently featuring USA themed merchandise. While the retail chain still offers a pride

58:34 collection for 2025, its presence in stores appears notably smaller than in previous years.

58:39 The shift comes after the company faced backlash in recent years over its prominent displays of

58:43 LGBT themed products, particularly those marketed to children. So big takeaway on this one.

58:49 I think targets full of crap. I think if Kamala Harris had been elected president,

58:55 those displays would be even bigger. But let's just see. Let's see if the tide is turning enough

59:01 because above anything else, what these companies worship is money, right,

59:06 which they're companies. You try to try to create as much value for stakeholders and

59:11 stockholders as possible. So by all means, without completely screwing over the end user,

59:18 let's go ahead and do that because I'm okay with the company saying, yeah, my bad. So let's take

59:26 Bud Light, you know, the Dylan Mulvaney can and all that and the boycott. Let's say the Bud Light

59:31 executive came out, did a press conference said, yeah, you know what, we had a low level staffer

59:35 that thought it'd be a good idea to get this ridiculous little boy that's pretending to be a girl

59:40 on a can and that they would post about it and that it'd be, you know, a nice boon and we'd have

59:45 some, you know, gay dudes and queers, you know, they would get online and they would order some

59:49 Bud Light or they'd go to the store and get some Bud Light or whatever the thing is. But gosh,

59:54 that was such a stupid mistake. Like this guy's a fool. He's a weirdo. Like, we should not have

59:59 supported him like that. Our bad, we're just going to stick to making crappy beer in blue cans

1:00:04 and doing funny commercials during the Super Bowl. Do you know how quickly the boycott would have

1:00:09 ended? Some people would have hung on, but most people would have been like, yeah, that's okay.

1:00:14 All right, I get it. You know, you didn't run it up the chain or it ran up the chain. You didn't

1:00:18 think it would be that big of a deal blew up in your face. Hey, my bad. Target's not exactly doing

1:00:23 that. They're throwing American flags in your face because they want you to be like, Oh,

1:00:28 look, American flag. I'll buy that so that they can hide the fact that they actually kind of

1:00:32 believe this stuff. They believe, remember, they were selling chest binders. So what chest binders

1:00:39 are is they squash the healthy breasts of developing young ladies that feel like they're boys,

1:00:45 right? They had like tuckable swimwear, right? So boys could like literally tuck their junk

1:00:51 into their anus region and have it all held up by this special fabric inside of a swimsuit.

1:00:58 That's your target is. That's what they think is okay and appropriate. So if they continue

1:01:05 to move away from this, is it feasible and reasonable to think? Yeah, you should be able to go back to

1:01:09 target at some point. But at this point, I haven't been to target in three or four years. And do you

1:01:15 know how my quality of life has changed? None at all between Amazon and other stores. And yeah,

1:01:22 no store, no company out there is going to have their hands completely clean. But most of them are

1:01:29 shoving it in your face that they think it's hilarious that you would support them. So keep that

1:01:34 in mind as you make your decisions. Also, let's get to the next one here. Me being even further

1:01:40 validated with the Amman Khalif boxing controversy. So remember, there were two male boxers that

1:01:46 were competing in the Paris Olympics. They beat up a bunch of women in one gold medals.

1:01:50 This is a recent report, according to the telegraph via Yahoo Sports on June 4th.

1:01:54 World boxing has apologized for publicly announcing Amman Khalif would be banned from its events,

1:01:59 unless she, their words, could prove she, their words, was biologically female. The governing body

1:02:06 has confirmed that its president, Boris van der Voorst, has written to the Algerian Boxing

1:02:11 Federation, acknowledging the athletes privacy should have been protected when it revealed on

1:02:15 Friday, it was introducing mandatory sex testing for women fighters. The apology was made after the

1:02:20 leaking of a medical report that appeared to indicate Olympic welterweight champion Khalif was

1:02:24 biologically male. Big takeaway on this one. We're not going to spend a lot of time. I was right.

1:02:29 Y'all knew I was going to be right. This was the most obvious story on the planet earth.

1:02:33 These people were wrong, but never forget this. The left are the ones that celebrated men beating

1:02:41 up women. It was leftists and Democrats that were all for Amman Khalif going into the women's division

1:02:50 and beating the brakes off these women and giving them brain damage. They're all for it.

1:02:55 So when they try to moderate going into the midterms, when they try to present someone to you

1:03:02 for the 2028 election, that seems more moderate. Remember, this is the exact type of thing that

1:03:08 they would support. Next we get her here. Oklahoma's new law allowing for the death penalty for first

1:03:13 time child sex offenders. So this is according to my hometown news station, the KSWAO news station

1:03:18 there in Lawton, Oklahoma on May the 28th, Governor Kevin Stitt recently signed Senate bill 599,

1:03:23 which puts the death penalty on the table for first time child sex offenders and also life in

1:03:28 prison is going to be on the the docket as well. So big takeaway here. Amen and amen. Like obviously,

1:03:35 because people are like, oh, it's just their first time. Okay, they're first time doing what?

1:03:41 Yeah, go again. Say it into my good ear. They're first time doing what? Oh, sexually molesting a

1:03:48 child violently penetrating a child. It was just their first time. I'm sorry, but I think we can

1:03:56 agree that that's one of the crimes that categorically we can say means that you're no longer part of

1:04:02 the gene pool. Okay, I've said this before, and I still believe it. I think these people

1:04:07 should be executed publicly. Like, what's the argument against executing these people publicly?

1:04:14 Like, we do it behind closed doors. We do lethal injections for the most part. We don't do firing

1:04:18 squads or electric chairs or anything like that for the most part anymore. And so these people just

1:04:23 kind of like, they existed and then they just disappeared, right? Far in the wind. But how about

1:04:28 we get into the town square, right? And we just do it publicly, just like they did in the old days.

1:04:33 Hey, if you're going to do this to kids, if you're thinking about this, or if you've been doing this,

1:04:39 you should probably stop or not do it. Why? Pull the handle, snap. That's why.

1:04:46 Because if you do this to kids, we're going to kill you for it, right? That's what a righteous,

1:04:53 moral magistrate would do. Again, I don't see the argument against it.

1:05:00 All right. Next, we'll get her here. President Trump making nice with a bona fide terrorist.

1:05:05 This is according to the Associated Press on May the 14th, President Donald Trump's announcement

1:05:09 that the US will ease sanctions on Syria could eventually facilitate the country's recovery from

1:05:13 years of civil war and transform the lives of everyday Syrians. Interim Syrian President

1:05:18 Ahmad al-Shahra, who led the insurgency that ousted President Bashar al-Assad, had urged

1:05:23 the sanctions, have outlived their purpose and are now only harming the Syrian people and ultimately

1:05:28 preventing the country from any prospect prospect of recovery. Trump and al-Shahra met Wednesday.

1:05:34 Okay. So big takeaway on this one. I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. That Donald Trump did this.

1:05:42 Okay. I'm a big Donald Trump fan. I'm glad he won the presidency. All the things right.

1:05:46 I hate that he did this. Okay. This interim Syrian president, Ahmad al-Shahra. Let me tell you

1:05:54 about this, fella. Okay. Bashar al-Assad, he was the guy that was in power for decades. He was

1:06:00 overthrown in December of 2024 by opposition forces. The main opposition force was Hayat Tahir

1:06:06 al-Shahm. That's a HTS. Okay. That's a suit. That's a group of Sunni Muslim terrorists,

1:06:11 which is, you know, Turkish backed and HTS was founded by a guy named Abu Muhammad al-Jalani.

1:06:18 Or as the media is calling him now, Ahmad Hussein al-Shahra. Okay. So a terrorist leader,

1:06:26 ousted Bashar al-Assad, who's one of an evil dictator. And this is the guy that Trump met with.

1:06:32 So HTS evolved out of Jabhat al-Nusrah, which is formerly a part of al-Qaeda in Syria. They

1:06:39 quickly captured, you know, key Syrian cities and ended up, you know, encircling Damascus,

1:06:42 this cause Assad to flee to Syria or flee from Syria to Russia for asylum. There's going to be a

1:06:48 whole lot more that happens because, you know, Assad is not just going to go retire now somewhere

1:06:52 in Russia. So this led to al-Jalani or al-Shahra's rising. He is a jihadist leader of HTS. Okay.

1:06:59 But he takes off his military guard, right? He trims his beard. He throws on a suit and he just

1:07:06 gets to go and meet with the president. Like guys, think about this. I need you to get this

1:07:12 optic in your brain. Let's say this was before September the 11th of 2001. This would have been

1:07:18 like George W. Bush welcoming Osama Bin Laden to the White House. Again, before 9/11,

1:07:25 you know, Bin Laden was just a guy doing crazy terrorist stuff. You know,

1:07:29 again, he was trying to do a bunch of stuff here and there was other bombings and stuff like that.

1:07:33 But that's essentially what this would be like. For all you super MAGA, no matter what Trump people,

1:07:40 why did he do this? What is what is the benefit here? I don't quite understand it.

1:07:46 This is a bonafide currently practicing terrorist that he had in the White House. And then after

1:07:52 the meeting, he was so impressed with the guy, he relieved sanctions on Syria, a terrorist country.

1:07:58 Again, I want to call balls and strikes. This is one of the most egregious things

1:08:04 that Trump has done so far as president. I've agreed with a ton of the stuff that he's done.

1:08:08 He's doing exactly what I voted for, but this is absolutely egregious. Okay. Now we need to get

1:08:13 to a couple of things before we let you go about a month ago. I saw all these memes and all these

1:08:18 think pieces about what would happen if 100 men were to fight one silverback gorilla?

1:08:24 This was on everybody's lips, right? This was a cultural phenomenon that the number of AI videos

1:08:30 that were made of these, you know, amoeba-like men going and taking on the silverback gorilla.

1:08:36 And almost everyone's answers were the exact same. The gorilla for sure.

1:08:43 The gorilla is going to kill all 100 of those people. That's what all the AI model showed

1:08:47 is that this gorilla was just going to mow down all these dudes. And I felt like I was the only

1:08:53 person that disagreed. But as is true, almost all the time, no, no sarcasm here. I'm always right.

1:08:59 Guys, obviously, right? I'm always right. So I'm going to explain to you slowly exactly what would

1:09:07 happen if 100 men fought one silverback gorilla? The men win. The men will win. And here are the

1:09:19 reasons why. Reason number one, human men can devise a plan. The gorilla cannot. The gorilla can

1:09:28 only react. The gorilla is dancing to its DNA. It's not going to devise a plan. It's not going to

1:09:33 know that it's about to fight 100 men. Because those 100 men in this scenario, they are told,

1:09:39 hey, you got to fight and kill that gorilla, or it's going to kill all you guys. The gorilla

1:09:43 doesn't know grills just being a gorilla, right? So we can devise a plan. That's one thing we have

1:09:48 up on the gorilla. Number two, with 100 men, there are enough men, I'm including myself in that.

1:09:55 There's enough of us to outlast a single animal. Okay. So in this scenario, men are 100% going to

1:10:01 die for sure. But 100 men aren't going to get killed before one gorilla is. And here's the third

1:10:08 thing. Everyone's talking about the strength capacity of a gorilla. If a gorilla could bench

1:10:13 press, it could bench press this much. If a gorilla could deadlift, it would death, deadlift this

1:10:17 much. A gorilla literally has the power in its jaw to rip your face off while it's simultaneously

1:10:22 pulling your arms off your body and beating you to death with it. Okay, let's say I give you that.

1:10:26 You know what? No one's talking about the cardiovascular capability of a gorilla. And you know what?

1:10:32 It's essentially non-existent. Because here's what we do know about gorillas. They have enormous

1:10:37 hearts, which support intense anaerobic output. What is anaerobic output? Quick surges of energy,

1:10:45 right? So when you're deadlifting doing a max deadlift, that's anaerobic. It's

1:10:51 a lock it out, right? Quick surge of energy, okay? You know, gorillas also have low VO2 max.

1:10:57 That essentially means they can't sustain output. They don't have endurance.

1:11:03 And also they have fast, fast twitch muscle fibers. So they burn hot, but they burn fast, right?

1:11:09 That's why I got like Usain Bolt is going to win the 100 and the 200, but he's not going to win

1:11:12 a marathon, right? He just can't sustain that speed or any type of speed for that length of time.

1:11:18 It's just not the body that he has. So I have no idea why people spent so much time on this

1:11:23 because it became readily apparent and obvious to me immediately because people are like, well,

1:11:28 if it's 100 American men, what's their foul? What if they're all shape, I'll tell you what,

1:11:31 even in a random grouping of 100 adult males in America, there's going to be at least 2530 of us

1:11:38 that are ready to get down that aren't complete morons. We're destroying that stupid gorilla,

1:11:42 okay? Now, if you stuck with me this long into the podcast, we're well over an hour

1:11:47 into this at this point. But I made you a promise at the beginning of this episode.

1:11:51 I promise you an M. Nice Shyamalan twist to the end of this episode, and I'm going to give it to you.

1:11:58 Guys, I've been dead this entire time. That's right. This is my own version of the sixth sense.

1:12:07 I've been dead this entire episode. This technically wasn't even happening because a couple of weeks

1:12:13 ago, I got a very concerned email from a fan who I had been emailing with earlier that day.

1:12:19 He sent me a screenshot from his phone of the results generated by Google AI after he Googled

1:12:27 Kyle Thompson Undaunted Life. So when he Googled Kyle Thompson Undaunted Life,

1:12:34 this is what the AI overview said. Kyle Thompson was a US Army special forces officer who died

1:12:41 in a tragic weightlifting accident. He was a prominent figure on the Undaunted Life podcast

1:12:45 where he discussed various topics, including personal family tragedies and how Christian men

1:12:49 should deal with loss. Thompson's death occurred when a barbell slipped from his grasp while he was

1:12:54 bench pressing 315 pounds, crushing his neck. Guys, I'm so sorry. This is obviously very,

1:13:04 very sad news for any and all of you that count yourselves amongst fans of Kyle Thompson and

1:13:10 Undaunted Life. And I'm just, I'm very sorry for your loss. That is except for a few pesky little

1:13:19 things. Number one, I've never served in the military, much less been a green beret, much less

1:13:25 been a green beret officer. Number two, I've never dropped a bar while benching. And if my

1:13:31 friends found me dead after benching, they would have the decency to put a few more plates on

1:13:35 either side to say I was really getting after it. Number three, I'm still very much alive.

1:13:40 Most of you are going to be excited about that. Some of you are going to be disappointed, but

1:13:44 here I am. I am alive and well. I have no idea what Google AI has against you, boy. No idea

1:13:52 whatsoever. But if anybody works at Google that's listening to this still, maybe hook a brother up.

1:13:56 I'd like to still be alive. And I'll do it for today. But guys, before you go, we're going to do

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