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MARKWAYNE MULLIN | Quest for the US Senate (Ep. 366)

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MARKWAYNE MULLIN | Quest for the US Senate (Ep. 366)
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In this episode, Kyle Thompson sits down with Mark Wayne Mullen, who is running for the U.S. Senate from Oklahoma. They discuss Mullen's recent primary victory, the upcoming general election against Kendra Horn, and the broader political landscape as the GOP aims to reclaim Congress.
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1:16 This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast.
1:20 I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
1:21 Let's get into it.
1:22 Our guys today have got a special return guest to the show.
1:24 His name is Mark Wayne Mullen.
1:26 So he is running to represent the state of Oklahoma as one of its two United States senators.
1:30 He defeated his runoff opponent, T.W. Shannon, back in August by about 30 points.
1:34 He got about 65% of the vote.
1:36 And we had the opportunity to have both T.W. and Mark Wayne on the show before that runoff
1:40 to kind of give you guys a sense of what these guys are like
1:43 and what they're going to be like if they get into the office and those types of things.
1:45 So if you want to listen to the episode that I did with Mark Wayne,
1:48 he was on episode 340 of this podcast, so episode 340.
1:51 He is currently a member of the United States House of Representatives,
1:54 representing Oklahoma's 2nd Congressional District, but he's also a businessman.
1:58 So he doesn't just do the political stuff.
1:59 He runs a business.
2:00 He runs Mullen Ranch, which is a working cow-calf operation out in eastern Oklahoma,
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3:32 All that will be in the show notes, but in terms of this interview that we did today,
3:36 we talked about a lot of interesting things with Mark Wayne because we're going to have
3:39 them on this month and we're also going to have them on next month so you can get a sense
3:42 of what things are going to look like because, dude, in the next two days, things could change
3:45 much less in the next two, three, four weeks.
3:47 But we talk a little bit about the runoff election, what that was like and how he's
3:51 able to get that all squared away and how they far exceeded even their best expectations
3:55 going into that race, again, winning by more than 30 points.
3:58 But now how the things are going to change with their team because now they're going
4:01 up against a former Democratic House of Representatives member named Kendra Horn and they're doing
4:05 some pretty interesting things trying to, you know, make this a close race because right
4:09 now we're seeing polls that are 10 plus points on Mark Wayne's side, but there's, there's
4:13 some mudsling and going on in this race.
4:15 So we talked about that in this podcast, but then we look at Biden's speech that he delivered
4:18 back in Philadelphia of some weeks back where he's talking about these MAGA Republicans
4:22 and how these are horrible people and they're trying to take over the country and what his
4:25 view was like of that because he was serving in the US House whenever he hears the president
4:29 of the United States that, you know, the chief executive basically talking about these things
4:33 and it was just kind of a weird deal.
4:35 But then we got into discussing Italy's new prime minister, Georgia Maloney, because this
4:39 gal, most of us didn't even know she existed a week ago and now she's gone viral and this
4:43 is a person that's, you know, all about the family and all about the country and all
4:46 these different things and how that kind of has some ties to what's happening here in
4:50 the United States where we seem people kind of trending more towards the right.
4:53 So we break that down.
4:54 But then at the end of our interview, again, it was just a short one today, but it's very
4:57 interesting because we got to spend some time talking about the Republicans' chances of
5:00 taking over the House and the Senate.
5:02 So pretty much it's a foregone conclusion at this point that the GOP is going to take
5:05 over the House, but the Senate seems like a coin flip or worse at this point.
5:09 But he gave a really interesting explanation, looking at the data of these different races
5:14 around the country.
5:15 And he's very confident that the House is not only going to go the GOP's way, but also
5:19 the Senate.
5:20 And so I'll leave that explanation for him to break it down, but we're not going to keep
5:22 him from you any longer.
5:23 So without further ado, let's get into it.
5:26 Mark Wayne Mullen.
5:27 Welcome back to Indaunted Life of Man's podcast.
5:30 Thanks brother.
5:31 Thanks for having me on.
5:32 Sorry about the background.
5:33 I look like I'm kind of in a prison cell, but I'm really not.
5:36 Well, you kind of are in a prison cell, it's called the United States House representatives,
5:39 but you know what?
5:40 You're trying to go to a much better, nicer, and more comfortable prison cell called the
5:44 U.S. Senate.
5:45 And so you actually pulled that off because you did win your runoff election.
5:48 So we had you and your runoff mate, T.W. Shannon on the show back in August.
5:52 But you exceeded even the most conservative polling that I saw that was in your direction.
5:59 You got around 65% of the vote.
6:01 You won by over 30 points.
6:02 It was it was a shellacking anyway that you slice it.
6:05 I guess to reacquain our audience with you and so that we can get into the real stuff.
6:09 Tell us about what that process was like.
6:10 You know, what was it like on Election Day, whenever everything started rolling in, when
6:14 they called your name, whenever you found out that you were going to be the Republican
6:17 nominee here in the general election.
6:19 And then you can give us a little bit of your stump speech and tell us why you're even running
6:22 for the U.S. Senate to begin with.
6:24 Right.
6:25 Well, listen, the real reason why we won the election is because the wrestling community
6:29 came out and supported me.
6:31 That's right.
6:32 But, you know, when you go into any match, you got to walk out there and believe you're
6:36 going to win.
6:37 I don't care if you're an unranked wrestler that's stepping on the mat with the number
6:43 one kid in the nation.
6:44 You got to believe you can win.
6:45 I mean, as I tell my kids, every time that your match isn't your opponent, your match
6:51 is in your heart, it starts right here.
6:53 You got to go out there.
6:54 You got to give your best.
6:55 And when you walk out that mat, you got to know you gave your best.
6:59 And for us, we give our best every day, we get up, we expect to win, and we're going
7:03 to make sure we do everything to make that happen.
7:06 And so we wasn't surprised when we won.
7:09 We was surprised at the margin, though.
7:12 We went into August 28th, being very confident on where we're at.
7:17 We assembled a great team, kind of like training camp, and I used to fight professionally.
7:21 We assembled a great group of individuals work in training camp with us, and we surrounded
7:28 ourselves with people better than us.
7:30 And so we had a good team out there working, and we pulled it off and it showed.
7:39 For us, moving forward, we still feel very confident.
7:42 We switched the team up just a small bit, because it's a new focus.
7:45 You got a new opponent, so you got to make adjustments, and then we're going to go into
7:51 November 9th, fully expecting to win.
7:54 Of course, I don't know what our margins are going to be.
7:57 We know I coached kids, I was coaching kids, actually this weekend at Atlanta at the Elite
8:06 Eight duels, and I wasn't meant to coach them like I want to, because I had their own coaches,
8:10 but I was still there and talking with the kids and encouraging the kids, because a lot
8:16 of them had wrestled for me in the past.
8:20 We went into every match there.
8:23 We expected to win, but we still got to change, and so it's the same thing here.
8:26 We got to go in expecting to win just by not maybe the same margins, but we were always
8:31 looking to score.
8:32 We walked to pressure, you don't walk away pressure, you walk towards pressure every
8:36 single time, and if you win by one, that's great, but you're always looking for an opportunity
8:42 to score to win by three, win by five, or win by ten, but you never let your opponent get
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9:19 Well, I mean, I think in the last podcast we mentioned Randy Couture using pressure as
9:22 a weapon, and no media matters who's listening to this, probably I don't mean an actual physical
9:27 weapon.
9:28 I mean, you know, just generally, but I mean, you do have a different opponent, so you're
9:32 going up against a former Democratic House of Representatives member named Kendra Horn,
9:36 and so the general elections on November 8th, so hopefully on November the 9th, you wake
9:39 up with a victory, but she was elected to the House in 2018, but then she immediately
9:44 lost her next reelection bid in 2020 to Stephanie Bice.
9:47 Now I'm seeing polls right now in terms of, you know, the match up between you and her.
9:52 What I'm seeing is 10 plus up that you are right now.
9:55 I obviously know you a little bit.
9:56 I know a little bit about your approach, so you're not just going to coast.
10:00 You're not going to be like, well, this kid's unranked, you know, you're treating it like
10:03 a wrestling thing.
10:04 You're not just going to go out there and assume the pin's going to come.
10:06 You're going to go out there and try to dominate and just let the chips fall where they may.
10:09 But talk to me a little bit about that race because in a lot of ways, a lot of political
10:12 pundits, myself included, if I could call myself a pundit, you know, it was it's either
10:16 you or TW and then whoever wins that is going to have, you know, an easier ride going into
10:21 November.
10:22 So how do you feel about it?
10:23 How did your team feel about it?
10:24 How are you approaching the general?
10:26 We're approaching like we're behind.
10:28 I don't I don't ever like to look at the numbers and think we're I think we're ahead and we
10:32 start coasting.
10:34 So we're approaching the same way we take her very serious at this level, just the same
10:39 thing in any competition at any level of wrestling when you go out there or you're fighting
10:43 or you're playing against the professional ball team, it doesn't make any difference
10:46 what it's analogy you want to use.
10:48 If you may be the best person walking on that mat, but if you're not focused, the other
10:53 person is also really good or they wouldn't be there with you and they can capitalize
10:56 on any mistake you make.
10:58 And so that's the way we're approaching this with a with our Democrat opponent and we
11:04 just don't ever want her in it.
11:06 We don't want her in the fight with us that we want her to know that she's always that
11:11 she's always trying to play catch up and the margin is so far away that she can't and not
11:17 to use it over analogy here, but this is basically the same thing.
11:23 I used to tell people all the time, if you let me stay around in the first period and
11:26 you didn't beat me, the second period, we're going to be the same by the third period.
11:30 I'm going to run you into the ground and we're at the end of this race and there's no way
11:35 I'm letting off here.
11:37 So our approach to this is one state of course, don't get into the phrase.
11:42 She's trying to paint us as this extremist, as this individual that is going to steal
11:48 the rights and use fear as a motivation.
11:53 She's trying to paint us as a person that is almost anti-American and I'm just not going
12:00 to go down that.
12:01 We're going to let people make those decisions themselves, but to try to paint me as an extremist
12:06 or an anti-American is just absurd.
12:09 Yeah, I'm fighting for American values, I'm a patriot, but sure of the heck you can't
12:15 say anti-American.
12:16 And we're probably going to also ignore her too because she wants to create an opportunity
12:22 for what we would consider unearned media and it puts her at the same level as us.
12:32 So we're just not going to respond to a lot of the stuff she has.
12:35 We're not going to get into the tit for tap with her.
12:38 There's a clear difference between us and the Republican primaries, everybody's basically
12:44 saying the same thing but you're saying it in a different way, right?
12:48 That's not what we're going to do here.
12:49 There's a clear difference between us when you start talking about pro-life or pro-choice.
12:54 When you start talking about energy independence or taking us completely away and making us
13:02 dependent on renewable energy and on minerals that come from China, we start talking about
13:10 a strong economy with the government pulling back all their agencies and their regulatory
13:17 environment that just kills the economy to an overbearing Democrat party.
13:22 We start talking about border security.
13:24 There's a huge difference between us and the border in the border.
13:27 When we start talking about border security, I mean border security, not Kamala Harris
13:31 who says the border is secure, but actual border security.
13:35 We start talking about drug trafficking.
13:37 It starts at the border.
13:38 When you start talking about labor shortages, honestly, it does start at the border because
13:43 if you can fix the immigration system, we can also help get the individuals that want
13:47 to come here and work in the United States here legally.
13:50 So you can help with the labor shortage.
13:53 There's a huge difference in the way we approach that stuff.
13:55 You start talking about a strong national defense.
13:59 You do that by not trying to indoctrinate the kids with critical race theory and how
14:07 to avoid pronouns.
14:09 You teach them how to be strong soldiers, individuals that's going to fight regardless
14:14 of a man or a woman because there is a clear difference between the two.
14:20 What is your best ability?
14:22 How can you best serve this country that you're willing to defend to your death and give you
14:26 all the tools to succeed rather than try to re-educate you?
14:32 There's a huge difference in the way we approach things.
14:34 That's obvious.
14:35 So we're going to stay the course on what we believe is right for this country and she
14:40 can do her thing.
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15:11 Yeah I mean there's definitely not a whole lot of crossover between the left and the right
15:15 right now and you know blue or red.
15:17 And just to kind of maybe put a bow on all the wrestling analogies we're using.
15:20 So bow nickel, the great former Penn State wrestler multiple time national champion and
15:25 all that.
15:26 He just had his second MMA fight on Dana White's contender series which was his third overall.
15:30 What's that?
15:31 He ended his fight in 52 seconds.
15:33 Come on.
15:34 And he did he did that in his last fight on Dana White's contender series and I bring him
15:38 up as an example.
15:39 This is a guy that is obviously a world class wrestler.
15:43 But he basically the beginning of the end of the fight was an overhand left because the
15:46 guy was so worried the guy was fighting was so worried about that single leg.
15:50 And he kept fainting, kept fainting, kept fainting and then it was the overhand left
15:53 that got him.
15:54 It kind of reminded me of you know Habib Nergamagan Medov and Conor McGregor back in the day like
15:58 that's kind of how that fight when Connor was so worried about the take down the overhand
16:02 the overhand punch game.
16:03 And so it's kind of one of those things as well like you have to be ready for wherever
16:07 the fight goes.
16:08 And again I'm using that term and you know as a metaphor everybody relaxed but you know
16:12 when you're going into a political fight like what we're going to be seeing between
16:16 you and Kendra Horn you have to be ready for whatever is going to come your way.
16:19 But at the end of the day you have to enforce your game plan.
16:22 And so a guy like Bo Nickel he's going to beat you however he feels he needs to beat you
16:26 but he's not going to come in just assuming oh I don't need to train for this one this
16:29 guy's not on my level.
16:30 He's like no I'm going to double train so that they know for the rest of their life
16:33 they're nowhere near my level.
16:34 So there's the wrestling analogy we can put a bow on that but I want to go back to something
16:38 that you said Mark.
16:39 You got to you got to hold a second because both of course I'll watch Bo and every one
16:45 of his national final matches and then he at your Penn State unfortunately I'm Oklahoma
16:52 State guy.
16:53 But your Penn State won the national tournament we had him up at the White House when Trump
16:59 was there and him and Bo and I were having a long conversation he was kind of asking
17:03 how I got into fighting and stuff and he says I want to fight I want to fight and I said
17:08 Bo can I just give you and I feel stupid about saying this I say can I give you a little
17:12 bit of advice I said get your career started and start training fighting at the same time
17:17 so you always have something to fall back on to because most fighters don't make a lot
17:21 of money and they're very few to succeed if anybody's going to succeed you can succeed
17:25 but get a career moving first before you go right to find it and you look at me he says
17:29 I'm fighting.
17:30 I said okay then to make sure you go to good camp and now I'm looking and I'm going yep
17:34 he's fighting.
17:35 Yeah he is fighting and I mean the dude's got some some brass rolling around in his underpants
17:41 because he immediately called up Hansat Chamayev right after he won his fight and it's like
17:46 nobody wants to fight that guy nobody like and then that's the first guy he's calling
17:50 out and he says right to the top so we'll see we'll see how it goes with a guy like that
17:53 it'll be interesting to see but one thing that you mentioned Mark Wayne is you were talking
17:57 about how Kendra Horn and her team is trying to brand you as these these extremists right
18:02 winning extremists and all that but all that really goes back to the White House Joe Biden's
18:07 White House technically and it really goes back to his speech in Philadelphia some weeks
18:11 back where he got up there with his you know Marines you know silhouettes behind them in
18:15 the red the red lights on on the building and all those different things and then he branded
18:20 MAGA Republicans.
18:22 Now the interesting thing about that is as you go through a speech and I think I pulled
18:26 out 21 different identifiers that he did in that speech of what a MAGA Republican is
18:31 and so you're thinking you know people with American flags running into the Capitol trying
18:36 to you know hang Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi and all those types of things that's the image
18:39 they try to give you but when you look at the speech it's anyone that doesn't agree
18:43 with you on immigration policy anyone that doesn't believe that you should be able to
18:46 slaughter unborn babies in the womb anyone that doesn't you know agree with your tax policy
18:50 or or something like that or doesn't believe in all your green initiatives that they'll
18:53 do anything but it really goes back to that so talk to me a little bit about what your
18:57 reaction was to that speech because I was absolutely flabbergasted because I of course
19:02 I disagree with the guy but I never left an Obama speech feeling like he was specifically
19:07 calling me this horrible evil bigoted you know demon essentially but that's exactly
19:12 how I would feel coming away from a speech like that so what did it look like from your
19:15 point of view?
19:16 I tell you how I felt I felt like my wife gave me a compliment and then backhanded me because
19:22 at one time he's saying the country needs to be united and as a country we're stronger
19:25 if we stand together all this stuff and then he backhands everybody and says you're not
19:30 a patriot you're not an American you're the biggest threat to our country because you don't
19:34 agree with us because you're a MAGA Republican labeling in that such a fashion it immediately
19:45 pushed everybody off and when you see what the Democrats are doing the Democrats are
19:50 using a true production company now that's something the White House hasn't ever done
19:55 now they do set stages obviously they got what we call a communication team I have a
20:00 communication team that set stages that set things up that want things to look as professional
20:04 as possible but to go through a whole production where you're putting on a show where you're
20:09 doing rehearsals truly they did a rehearsal for that where they're setting the stage and
20:14 they're setting the mood and they're talking about the moonlighting and what would look
20:18 good and then use two Marines as props right and I do mean that they're using young Marines
20:26 they didn't ask to be there it wasn't volunteered they were ordered by the commander in chief
20:33 to stand there and be part of a prop so you use two Marines that are defending our nation
20:41 that you're using as a messaging piece and they use a moonlight behind it and it talks
20:46 about that everybody that doesn't agree with me is bad and the last time we saw that we
20:51 moved towards a dictator but yet they're wanting to claim that President Trump was actually
20:55 the dictator that President Trump was the threat to the country and yet you see this
21:00 being caught being this speech taken place right after they ordered the raid on on Mar
21:08 Largo and he's trying to calm people's nerves by showing us as a unified fight he's rolled
21:14 out the director ray of the FBI and then they roll out they roll out Garland trying to say
21:20 trust us you can trust us you can trust us and then they're doing the January 6th committee
21:24 and they're have postponing hearings on January 6th because they're wanting to push it as
21:29 close as they can possibly because the election right all about a show for them and not about
21:34 the country I can okay I can be okay with you disagree with me I have zero issue with
21:39 that but disagree with me because you believe it in your heart and you're willing to die
21:45 on that stake for it but don't do it because it's all about a show and it's a game for
21:52 you because you're wanting to stay in power don't do it because it's a political motivation
21:57 for you do it because it's what's best for this country it's what's best for that flag
22:01 that's over my shoulder here it's because you believe in this country in the future that
22:05 holds and we can disagree on that if your heart's on the right spot in this administration their
22:11 heart isn't in the right spot and it showed by his absolute miscalculation and missing
22:17 the mark on this when he addressed the nation so I would tend to agree with you that it was
22:23 a miscalculation or missing the mark but maybe the more pessimistic side of me mark Wayne
22:28 is I feel like they did that on purpose the red the marines the banging on the podium I
22:35 feel like all that was on purpose because they need to find the seem like he's alive and it's
22:41 just like you know normally like just recently I saw he was speaking somewhere where he was
22:45 looking around like where's this person it was someone in Congress that died a month ago
22:49 and he's looking around the room asking where this person is it's like he's clearly not
22:52 with us but whenever you can kind of put him out as this kind of dark star lord or something
22:57 like that it gives people confidence that at least he's you might be a little bit evil
23:01 but at least he's alive like that's what it what it kind of feels like no they were trying
23:04 to force him to be passion you can't force somebody to be somebody they're not and it
23:09 comes across the dish and genuine be who you are it's like I tell people all the time when
23:12 they come to visit my district don't buy a pair of boots for the first time you come
23:17 out here you know if who you are skinny jeans and loafers with no socks I can respect that
23:23 more than I can respect you trying to relate with me you know too many times politicians
23:28 try to relate just be who you are own it and let's move forward and they're trying to make
23:33 him into this person why are they trying to make him into this person because they know
23:37 what Donald Trump did resonated with the people but Donald Trump it wasn't a show it was for
23:42 real it's who he is if you meet with him in person he you're going to see the same thing
23:47 now you're see a softer side I'm gonna decide that a individual that really cares but you're
23:50 going to still see the passion and the love for this country and when you've been in politics
23:55 for 42 years and that's all you've ever done all you're doing is going through the check
24:00 in the boxes you don't really even know who you are I had a I had a politician and I don't
24:05 mean this I mean I'm in office too so I take that title for me too but when I say a politician
24:10 I'm going to say someone that's all they've ever done is work for a government all they've
24:14 ever done is seek an office I had a politician tell me just recently they said you know I'm
24:19 working on one of the most and I'm not bragging about myself so don't think any of that I'm
24:23 just telling you what the conversation was to show you how people get out of touch like
24:27 the president and I'm working on one of the most impressive things about you is that you
24:32 know who you are and I looked at him this guy's been in office longer than me and I looked
24:37 at him and I was like what he says you know who you are you when you speak you speak with
24:44 passion when you show up you just own who you are and I have a problem with that I can
24:51 honestly tell you I don't know who I am and this is a guy that I looked up to and I thought
24:57 oh my goodness but that's what happens because this where I'm at in DC this isn't reality
25:05 this is what they call the bubble for a reason you get caught up in this bubble and you start
25:09 thinking this is what life is really is but life is when you get back home life is that
25:14 that's life and they have why they it was done on purpose it wasn't done on purpose to resonate
25:21 with someone it was done on purpose to speak to people because they thought that's what
25:25 the American people wanted what they want is someone to just be genuine just be who you
25:32 are full stop well and the problem is is when you've worked for in government for 40 plus
25:38 years or something like that it's so clear that Joe Biden is the thermometer of the Democratic
25:43 Party and not the thermostat like he's not setting the temperature he's looking he's looking
25:48 around for what the temperature is and then he's just going to react that way and when
25:51 you have that confidence in yourself like that that makes that makes a big deal that that
25:55 leads to something else I wanted to talk to you about because this gal to be honest was
25:59 not on my radar even 72 hours ago but it's Italy's new Prime Minister Georgia Marani she
26:05 kind of went viral over the weekend because and not viral because she's the first Prime
26:09 Minister in the history of that country that Italy hasn't been around as a country as long
26:13 as we think it is but it's still been around for a while and you don't think that would
26:17 be the narrative Mark Wayne that oh my gosh look out this is such a progressive move this
26:21 is such a big deal you know shattering the glass ceiling all those things you didn't
26:24 hear any of that because the first like 10 things that I saw about Georgia Maloney her
26:29 name was right next to Mussolini's name and they were branding her as the farthest right
26:34 leader in Italian history since Mussolini obviously like if they had done that with Angela
26:40 Merkel and saying like oh she's the most conservative person since Hitler obviously people are
26:44 going to start like paying attention to being like what in the world is going on but this
26:47 is a woman who is big on family is big on not murdering the unborn is big on the nation
26:53 of Italy and protecting the borders of Italy and so a lot of people are like oh she's she's
26:57 basically an Italian Donald Trump and they don't mean that as a compliment but Italians
27:02 mean that as a tremendous compliment because I think the last election Mark Wayne her party
27:06 got like 4% of the vote right and they they did like 10 fold better than that even more
27:11 than that this time around it seems like a lot of things are shifting and changing and
27:16 not just in America but when you're seeing a right wing movement and not an extreme racist
27:20 right wing movement but just a right wing populist movement even in Europe it seems like
27:25 the tides are shifting like what's your read of it well what God when you see this you see
27:31 that people are waking up you know the internet and social media platforms when they first
27:37 came on people really didn't know how to handle it they took the information as information
27:43 they took it as real but you're starting to see people that that now they're done with
27:48 the fake they're they're done with the with the the photoshopped images they're done with
27:54 the filters they just want someone to be real because we think this when we stare at it
28:00 becomes reality and you're seeing this shift in the American people that people just want
28:04 you to as I said just be who you are own it she is for financial responsibility she's for
28:12 faith and she's for family and she's for freedom and and that's what she stands for I mean border
28:18 security is freedom you know financially being being sound that's also freedom being for
28:25 family and faith by the way also brings freedom because it there's no bondage there this holding
28:34 you back you're able to be who you are and guess what you can live a happy and production
28:38 of life when you have those things in order and and and they're branding her because they
28:44 can't believe that the that the that the that the people of Italy would elect somebody like
28:49 this and by the way they call her the far right right and and who should who they're branding
28:55 her with keep in mind they did compare Trump to Hitler sure he's a biggest threat to the
29:02 American people but he never stood on a platform that looked very similar to when Hitler had
29:07 the books burning down in front of him and the flags behind him and he was given his raging
29:13 speech and he was banging on the podium I don't remember ever seeing Trump bang on
29:18 a podium do you I don't I don't remember seeing that and but yet but this is what the media
29:25 this is what the left wants you to believe because they're going to try to make those
29:30 comparison but just because they're not you they're not going to to conform to what you
29:36 think is right they're not going to conform to what they are trying to dry a draw that
29:41 our society is to people want somebody legit they want somebody that cares that they know
29:48 that cares that can relate with them without trying to relate with them because they've
29:52 been through those same struggles and by the way there's nothing wrong with loving people
29:56 there's nothing wrong with love in your family there's nothing wrong with love in the Lord
29:59 that that that sometimes when the world is in such turmoil people want something consistent
30:05 and those things that she believe in and that I would believe that the MAGA Republicans
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30:46 a sovereign nation I think it's hilarious how people in the left in America are going
30:50 apoplectic about what people in a different country yeah it's like you spell that if you're
30:55 going to you're going to use it you guys spell it man we're to the day guys get a word of
31:01 the day calendar you'll sound really smart in front of your friends but they're losing
31:04 their minds about the outcome of an election in Italy it's like do you have nothing to
31:09 do with your time don't you have people here in America that depend on you do you have family
31:14 do you have a church home do you have any of these things you have these boxes that you
31:17 can check it because there's a community that could that could need people like you to be
31:21 focused on that community here you are freaking out about what's going on in Italy and you
31:26 know what might happen in Europe and countries that you can't even vote in but we'll make
31:30 this last question the day because I know you got to go and keep in mind the scriptures
31:34 the Lord said don't worry about the splinter in your eye when you have a or a splinter in
31:38 your neighbor's eye when you have a plank out of yours and and a lot of times we want
31:42 to distract ourselves by that you know you don't have to it's really hard to criticize
31:47 someone else when you're backyard kind of a mess don't tell your neighbor to mow your
31:52 yard unless you we need to yours right I mean and what that even goes back to Jordan Peterson
31:57 to where it's just like you know don't compare yourself to who someone else is today compare
32:01 yourself to who you were yesterday like that's that's kind of the whole idea and a lot of
32:06 people really should spend a whole lot more time focusing on that as opposed to looking
32:09 around but to wrap up for today let's talk about the overall chances the Republicans have
32:14 of taking over Congress taking over the House in the Senate it's seemingly we've seen the
32:18 last few weeks oh it's tightening a lot of these house races are tightening we're not
32:21 sure if the house is going to go red essentially all of the you know toss up elections would
32:27 have to go to the Democratic side and I mean all of them for them to keep a hold of the
32:31 United States House I think that's a foregone conclusion it's the Senate that's a lot a lot
32:35 you know tighter and a lot weirder I think your race you know obviously what we've talked
32:40 about that already but as we talked about the last time you're on the show what's going
32:43 on right now in Pennsylvania I have no idea what what Mehdaz is doing like he he's going
32:48 up against guy that can barely talk I have no idea what Herschel Walker's doing down there
32:51 in Georgia I'm very concerned about some of these tight races just not going to GOP's
32:56 way which would lead to the Senate staying in the hands and the court systems and all
33:00 those things and all those things that the Senate can do that is much more unique than
33:03 the United States House I don't see a lot of those things going that way again I'm more
33:07 pessimistic but what is your read of the chances the GOP has of taking not just the House but
33:13 also the Senate so let me break all that down for you first of all keep in mind what
33:18 the Democrat Party was saying about the Republican Party and I mean the Democrat Party so I'm
33:23 putting the media in that Democrat Party platform yeah they're saying in 2010 at the end of
33:31 the Republican Party is near the end of the Republican Party has been chastised the American
33:35 people they don't relate with American people anymore and we picked up the House by a margin
33:40 that hadn't been seen before by by 42 seats we won literally 42 seats largest margin and
33:46 the most how the most seats picked up by any party in any midterm election then you fast
33:51 forward to 2014 when you is having a little bit of issue with the with what I would say
33:57 the Tea Party and and the the bickering going on with the with the Republican Party and
34:04 the media was all saying the same thing that there's a foregone conclusion that we're going
34:08 to put Hillary Clinton into office fast forward to 2016 President Trump gets elected and they
34:15 just lose their loving mind and and and so what I mean by this is when we ran up to these
34:21 to these issues before the media always draws this picture and they start saying things that
34:26 they try to get the American people to believe that the American people always go in their
34:29 vote and they seem to put us back when that when the Democrat party goes as as rogue as
34:35 they are right now we're seeing we did see a bump talking numbers here pay attention don't
34:41 pay attention to the Republican vote and the Democrat vote really and you got to pay attention
34:45 the independent vote so Republicans the Republicans they know where they're at Democrats or Democrats
34:50 they know where they're at by the way I don't really know any Republicans voting for Democrats
34:54 but I do know some long-term Democrats are voting for Republicans and I would say all
34:58 of us can say yeah that's accurate when when they pass the the reconciliation package there
35:05 is a huge bump they saw a spike and and in their numbers and what we saw was the independents
35:11 who we haven't had the independence since Ross Pro in fact we want to average roughly
35:15 27 percent nationally speaking of independent votes since Ross Pro was on the ticket and
35:20 Ross Pro was the reason why we ended up with the Hillary's in office to begin with with
35:23 Bill Clinton beating Bush and and since then the independent has stayed with the Democrats
35:31 what we saw in this election is that the Democrat that the independents now were tracking with
35:35 Republicans by 53-54 percent margin meaning that they said they were they were going to
35:41 vote for Republican over a Democrat and over 70 percent were saying that they're more likely
35:46 to vote for Republican over a Democrat well after reconciliation we saw that number actually
35:50 tightened a little bit we saw that we saw them that they get a bump then you saw the production
35:56 that rolled out of of Biden trying to unite the country you saw the FBI handling you saw
36:03 that number start coming down a little bit now the numbers are back almost to where they
36:08 were at so we're still not by a 53 we're at 50 so we're dead even with independents just
36:14 think about that though if we're dead even with independents that's a 33 percent bump for
36:18 us right compared to where you were yeah compared to where we have ever been when this is Ross
36:23 Rose so we're going to win back the house by 20 by by 35 plus seats we will we will pick
36:29 up at least 35 seats I'm Tony right now in the house in the Senate I believe Dr. Oz holds
36:35 on federal men is starting to flutter out a little bit they're starting to expose him
36:39 even their own Democrat party is concerned what the biggest concern is is that he gets
36:43 in office if he does win and then he can't hold it and then they don't have a vote in the
36:47 in the Democrat governor ends up appointing their own uh their own his own senator to
36:53 fulfill the term which could be six years so I believe Dr. Oh Dr. Oz wins that seat so
36:59 we hold Pennsylvania um Hersher Walker's going to win we're going to win down there uh and
37:05 I don't know the margins but we're going to win I believe um Adam lack salt and and Nevada
37:11 will win that'll put us at 52 seats so even if we were to lose Federman uh lose the Federman
37:16 Dr. Oz was to lose that seat and we'll still be at 51 but then you got to start thinking
37:22 about we just I just talked about the independent bump up so what are the biggest states that
37:26 had the most independence in it Vermont New Hampshire Colorado um uh Arizona and Washington
37:35 State they have the most concentrated independence on there so we're competing in Vermont and
37:40 Arizona I think there's a good chance we could pick up one of those seats in the night of
37:44 that election what I would encourage everybody do is pay attention to those two seats there
37:48 are those two states because there'll be some of the first ones to report if we end up winning
37:52 one of those seats we're going to end up picking up 54 plus seats in this uh uh I say 54 we're
37:58 going to win by 54 seats so we're going to pick up five or six seats because if we win one of
38:03 those seats that means we're going to hold on to Wisconsin we're going to hold on to Pennsylvania
38:06 we're going to win Georgia we're going to win Arizona and we're going to win Nevada and then
38:10 we could possibly win Colorado which I think Oda is doing a great job in Colorado and so I think
38:15 there's a good opportunity to win Colorado because Colorado is just a D plus six seat with the numbers
38:21 of independence pulling the way they are they put everything that's a D 10 and what I mean by D
38:26 is it's a Democrat plus the margin like Republican is a Republican which we call an R plus 27 seat
38:33 Democrat and Colorado is a D plus six so anything below a D plus 10 with the independence moving
38:39 the way they are towards us puts it at play which is why I think we could pick up Colorado
38:44 and that means Washington I think Washington is a far stretch um and I believe Nevada or New Hampshire
38:50 and Arizona and uh in Vermont could be a far stretch but if we're close if we're competitive
38:56 in those seats then we're still going to win Wisconsin we're still going to win Pennsylvania
39:00 and we're going to flip uh Georgia and uh and Nevada and that'll put us at 52 and possibly win
39:07 Arizona so we're going to win I'm very confident we're going to win both chambers well I appreciate
39:13 that breakdown obviously it's going to be very interesting to see how things go and because you're
39:16 even seeing a Federman's team is saying yeah we'll debate but then they won't set a date so it doesn't
39:20 look like that's going to happen that may help or hurt we we don't really know but I know you got
39:24 other stuff you got to get on to today and we're going to have you back on next month before the
39:27 election to go through all this stuff we'll get some other topics aside from these but that's all
39:31 for me is there anything else you want to get off your chest no and keep in mind everything I
39:35 repeated was what today's political atmosphere looks like when we talk again before the election
39:40 all change because 24 hours in the political world is a whole lifetime four weeks it's forever
39:48 right and I mean I feel almost bad like I'm going to be releasing this in two days and I'm like
39:53 gosh what's going to happen tomorrow I know something's going to happen tomorrow we're
39:56 going to look like a bunch of idiots because we didn't talk about it so guys if you're listening
39:59 to this on time the day was released we recorded it two days ago you'll be fine but Mark Wayne
40:03 Mullen thank you for coming back on a Daunton life of man's podcast thanks Kyle see you bye
40:07 there you go guys hope you enjoyed my time with Mark Wayne Mullen but before we let you go we
40:11 are going to do a quick resilience boost add-on Daunton life our mission is equipping men to push back
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40:23 his web page where you can look at all the different things about his platforms and everything it's
40:26 Mark Wayne for Senate so it's MullenforAmerica.com you can check both those out in the show notes
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