KING RANDALL | Passing Down the Values of Manhood (Ep. 853)

[music] [music] This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast. [music] I'm your host, Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it. >> King, welcome to the studio. But hey, you've been here for a while because you got here before the sun came up because for whatever reason you decided it would be a good idea to come work out. This was I think it was your idea actually. >> It was my idea. >> Okay. So, what'd you do that for? >> Um, >> and do you regret it? >> Yeah, I don't I don't regret it at all. We just had a good great great time. Um, >> the reason I wanted to work out is because I'm just trying to get my body back in shape anyway. And the best thing for me to do is to do things that suck. Um, and that's how you kind of maneuver through life. We have to go ahead and embrace the suck. That's why I drink black coffee every morning cuz I hate it. I drink black coffee to remind me that the grind is bitter and you can't d can't dilute the purpose. Um so we just have to keep moving and keep pushing. Um but definitely doing things that you hate to start the day uh it will set the tone for the rest of the day. >> Well, so when people are so like anxious to get after it like it kind of challenges me because whenever I lift in the garage, I'm just by myself and so it's mainly just powerlift stuff. So it's like deadlift and squat and bench and stuff like that. >> But then I've got other little devices around and other little torture devices. cuz I got, you know, the aerodyine bike and all that, but I busted out the tire for you this morning. And so we, uh, we ended up as a team flipping that tire for about a third of a mile or a quarter of a mile or something like that. And so, uh, that's not like a normal every day. >> Tell them the workout. So, we we flip the tire five times and then we do >> Well, we got to go back to the warm-up. The warm up. Yeah. >> So, the warm-up cuz if I just told you, hey, you know, as a warm-up, just do like a 100 air squats, you know, 100 push-ups. You'd be Yeah. I mean, that's really not that big a deal, right? >> But you do a pyramid. And so you go one push-up, one squat, two push-ups, two squats, three push-ups, three squats. You go all the way up to 10, >> and then you work your way down. 10, 9, 8, all the way back down. And so it's only 100, but whenever you're doing seven, and then eight, and then nine, and then you're like, "Oh, shoot. I got to come back down." >> Yeah. I mean, when you come back down, when you get to 5 43, you start like really going through, but that was warm. >> It was the fun part, but it was still tough. Like, you know, going down, but going down was way better than going up. Trust me. >> Yeah. It wasn't It wasn't a whole lot of fun. But, you know, that's not why we work out to have fun. But, so then for the for the actual workout workout, we take the tire out there and the tire is about four feet tall. I forget how I I got the weight on it before, but I forgot it. So, it's a good size tractor tire. >> And so, it's like, okay, one guy's going to flip it for five while the other guy's doing push-ups, right? So, one guy's flipping the tire for five and then the other guy's doing 10 push-ups and then we switch. >> And so, we go all the way down and the first, you know, track cuz it was just on my street, we go down around the culde-sac and back to the, you know, garage or whatever. It's uphill the whole way up and then so you get a little bit of, you know, effort, you know, less effort on the back back end because it's going downhill, but Right. Yeah. And then we uh we did a little bit of abs and you know, kind of moved on from there. So, uh [laughter] >> you were doing good at the beginning. You did real good at the end. Like it was but it was that middle part of the >> I like abs. I love doing abs. It's like one of my favorite things to do. Just got to get the the endurance back up. So, but yeah, I kind of started um I was working out probably about nine months straight um >> um before April. So, back in April, u my mom's dad and my dad's dad both died on the same day. Um, and that was a tough thing. Um, and what was interesting was it's not that I was even grieving or anything. I just had got busy. I I plan both funerals. I did both eulogies. Um, my mom and dad were out of it. Like, they they weren't coherent enough to even try and and and prepare those things. And, you know, they both um, you know, were the main child of of both. Um, so I ended up doing both of those and and I was fine for the most part. I didn't really feel like sad or anything cuz I'm just used to hey things happens the circle of life it is what it is. Um we were prepared for my mom's dad um because uh well this is the whole situation. So my dad called me and said that um his dad was on life support and um I'm like okay. And he was like they they talking about pulling the plug. I'm like whoa like okay. And my dad wasn't able to go to Miami where he was. So, I ended up flying to Miami like that next morning and going to see him and he was on life support already, but they had removed him just before I got there, but he he was like he was still breathing. He was holding on. So, he held on for like like 5 days. And then two days um into us being in Miami, my mom calls me and she's like, "Hey, your um your granddad is uh looking like he ready to go." I'm like, "What you mean?" She was like, "He's looking like he's ready to go." I'm like, "What?" So I go to see him and he was coherent, you know, he was talking and stuff, but you could you could tell like those deaf breaths and you know, whatever like that. So he was um just sitting there and um he was laying in the bed and I was talking to him and stuff. He talked to my sons or whatever and um he was talking about eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich or whatever. But anyway, um maybe like 2 days after that um I got a call that morning. My mom said, you know, he had passed away and then um a couple hours later um the uh hospice center called me about my dad's dad. same time. And so anyway, I just tried to work I worked straight through that and um I hadn't got back in a gym since. Yeah. And um a lot of things had been happening just in my life in general from April to then. Um back in August um one of my mentors, his name is Brother Aaron Muhammad. Um he was a Muslim. I'm a Christian. Um but brother Aaron was one of those people who kept always said kept me righteous when I was younger. Um he he never like tried to make me Muslim or anything like that. He always just told me to do the right thing all the time. He would talk to me, give me advice, etc. I mean, he was the band for me and um great mentor. And I avoided brother Aaron for about four or five years purposely because I knew that he was going to make sure that I was living my life right, he would not be pleased with how I was living. And um he died and it crushed me because I knew that every time I passed by the building he's always at, he has a Aikido studio. He he was a master iikido. Um and every time I passed by, I need to go see brother Aaron. I need to go see him. I need to go talk to him cuz I knew if I talked to him, he was going to help me get my life back in order. And um I just kept passing by and just kept I just kept putting it off and kept putting it off and kept putting it off. And so he got sick and his [snorts] son called me and was like, "Hey, you know, dad's in the hospital if you want to come see him or whatever like that." I'm like, "All right, cool." So I came to see him and he was like super skinny and um he told me he was going to be fine. He was like, "Well, they punctured my lung and a couple things happened, but I'm going home and everything's going to be fine. I'll recover." I'm like, "Okay, cool." So I'm like, "When he recovers, I'm going to talk to him now. I'm going to do it." And I was at SummerSlam um enjoying myself. I go to SummerSlam every year. WWE SummerSlam. I go there every year to um just for my birthday. And um I was on the front row having a blast. And my kid teacher text me and was like, "Brother Muhammad died." I'm like, "Excuse me?" Like, "Brother Aaron passed away." So I text my guy. I'm like, "Bro, tell me it ain't so." Like the guy who goes um to the mosque with him and I was like, "Tell me it's not so." He was like, "Bro, I wish it wasn't so." And I just sat down. It crushed me. Um because I It wasn't even that he passed away. I know life happens. It was the I avoided him for so long. Um and I avoided him because I was not I was running away from living my life properly. >> And what age were you around that when you were kind of running away from him? Avoiding him. >> Um I started avoiding him when I was about 21. Okay. Um this is when I first went viral and I was going all over the country, you know, doing speaking engagements or whatever like that. And I was just doing all type of debauchery while I was gone to be honest with you. Um and I was doing these speaking engagements. I was helping, you know, kids and stuff like that, but I was also just living, you know, just completely immorally. Um, and I was avoiding him purposely because I knew like he would not be pleased with how I was living cuz I didn't lie to him. I always told him the truth, so I just avoided him. But anyway, he passed away and um, it crushed me. And so just the realization of him dying and having a couple dreams about him and stuff, I knew that I kind of had to push myself in a proper direction. And now, you know, going back to the gym thing, the first thing I needed to start doing was getting my body back in order because getting your body in order, you can maneuver to the mental side. Um, also, and that's where I started. I just like last week I'm like, "Dude, get back." And I had just gotten bigger. Like, I was looking good and I wasn't looking so frail. Like, I'm like, "This is great." Like, and then that happened. My granddad's died and boom. Like, I just stopped everything. And it's like I never I didn't even purposely stop. It's just I just stopped. Like, I just I just didn't have it. Well, you you don't really have the the mental capability in those moments because whenever you become the adult representative for two sides of the family to get people through one of the hardest days of their life, uh you know, that that that takes a toll on somebody. >> And so, uh you know, for me, >> the anchor point of most of what I do is what I do in the gym because it's so hard, because I do it so early. And the the the thing about exercise is the hardest thing the second hardest thing to do in the world is to get into shape. The first hardest thing is to get back into shape, right? Because if you've never been in shape, you don't know what it's like to be in shape. But then you have that extra mental hurdle of, man, I used to be in shape. I used to be faster. I used to be stronger. I used to be jacked or whatever the thing is. And then now you're trying to get back to some semblance of that, right? >> It's just really really hard for for people to do. But there the thing that I tell people all the time, and this is this has been helpful. I don't know where I got it. I I I definitely didn't make it up, but it's just this concept of predecision because especially with working out, but but you know this to be true. This blends into you mental life, your spiritual life, your relational life, you know, emotional life. >> So this morning when I woke up, right? Like if you even if y'all were in town, right? >> I had preddecided that I'm going to work out tomorrow. So there's no debate when the alarm clock goes off and I'm sitting there thinking, you know, oh man, it's warm in my bed, but it's cold outside or it's cold in the garage where I work out. Oh man, let me listen to my body. What does my body want to do? It's like, no, your body wants to stay there and, you know, rest and do nothing, right? But it's your mind that has to force it to do things because no one ever regrets working out after it's done. >> Oh, yeah. But it's all Yeah. It's all the internal dialogue leading up to the workout tour. I don't want to do it. >> It's like just uh the the movement I just started in my hometown a couple months ago. Um trying to get people to exercise because we're losing so many people in our hometown to preventable health issues to the number of a thousand people a year. and we're in a small town. That's is that's insane. >> How many people live in your town? Like 70,000. >> 60 69,000. So to lose a thousand a year is crazy business. We've lost 5,500 people since 200 I think 22 if I'm not mistaken. And um that's a crazy number um to realize like 5,500 people and we've been talking about the population dropping and they're thinking people are moving. I'm like, "No, these people are dying." So I started the movement um and had people coming to run downtown right now at 5:00 in the morning. Um so >> and what's it called? the >> we we are the traffic. >> We are the traffic. Very good. >> It's called we are the traffic because um the mornings that we chose um you know our city's sleeping at 5:00 in the morning. It's completely no traffic on the road. So when I was doing a video I was like well guys you know we run in the middle of the road cuz there's no traffic. We are the traffic. And then it stuck. I'm like we are the traffic. That's the thing. So um it spread to a couple of different uh counties about 16 different cities. Um, and they are all working out in the same name like just all in just camaraderie and just to see people just to be honest like morbidly obese who've never worked out before. I mean people have come out there like listen I have never worked out in my life but this has changed my life. We've truly helped people change their lives uh through this movement. Um people have lost so much weight. I've seen people who started out big and they are slimming down. You know we even started the Biggest Loser challenge with it where um people whoever lose the most weight they win money. You know like we're we're encouraging people like no you got to do this thing and keep it up. So, um, when it started getting cold, I reached out to our mall and I'm like, "Hey guys, can we come here and work out because it's starting to get cold and people are starting to dwindle. That's right. Can we can we move to the mall?" And they opened up opened up for us. We can't run in there. We can walk. So, we have exercise stations and we have people power walking or whatever. But keeping people, you know, active and just utilizing like the the fact that people believe in me uh in my hometown to to get them to exercise because our town definitely needs that. And um that's that's the whole thing people say. It's like it's always the getting up and getting here part at 5:00 in the morning, but as soon as they're done, they like, "Man, I go attack so much stuff during the day and mentally you have more clarity like cuz I don't I I'm not a scientist, but there is something that happens. There's endorphins. There's all kinds of things that are released in the body after strenuous workout." But even just the benefits of walking, so people that are like, "Okay, I'm going to clean up my diet a little bit, right? I'll still cheat, but I'm going to clean up my dial just a little bit and then I'm just going to walk every single day for x amount of time or x distance or something like that. >> The benefits across the board, right? You know, for people that struggle with like depression or anything like that, there was a study that came out basically saying that all these SSRIs, >> the the difference in improvement between someone that does SSRIs and somebody that just does strenuous workout and eats normal food is statistically negligible, meaning they can't tell the difference, right? And I've told people this because some people have said, "Well, we need to start talking to them about their food." I said, "I'm not doing that right now. Let's get their bodies moving." I said, "We are in South Georgia. People eat what they eat." I'm like, "I'm not going to go there right now. Let me just keep them working out." Cuz I told them like, "Well, I ate a cheesecake." Okay, cool. Eat a cheese, but just make sure you go walk like two or three miles afterward. Like, just do something like that. >> You know why that's the right approach though is because like So, uh they went to a Thunder game last night. So, y'all went to a Thunder Lakers so y'all can get a an idea. That's a first time in Oklahoma and you've already been to more Thunder games uh in the last few years than I've been. >> We had to go. >> Yeah. But let's say you stayed up real late last night >> and you ate nachos and French fries and popcorn and had a few beers and all that. The workout this morning, you would have thrown up all over my sidewalk. Like that's exactly what would happen. So what happens when people start moving their bodies >> and they know, oh here in, you know, 7 hours I got to be up and I got to be on the street or in the mall working out. They're not going to be eating junk food real late. They're not going to eat ice cream before bed. They're going to start thinking to themselves, "Man, when I eat like this, I feel terrible during my workout." Well, what if I changed my diet a little bit and then my workouts would >> just let it happen. And that's what And see, the only reason I ate ice cream last night was because I It's a natural laxative for me to be honest with you. I'm lactose intolerant. So, I ate ice cream on purpose so I can clear myself before I come here cuz I'm like, "No, I'm not about to go use this man's bathroom." >> When I thought you were going to I thought you were going to have a little bit of an accident there about halfway through the tire flips, right? >> Yeah. I was like hands on knees. I was like, "All right, we're about to do [laughter] this." But I want to back up just a little bit because you talked about, you know, the influence in your in your hometown and you're you're how 26. >> 26. >> Okay. You're 26 years old. So, a lot of influence in your hometown >> to even be a guy of your age that's not, you know, the mayor. You're not like the police chief. You're just, you know, a guy in the community to even be able to call them all to set up something like that. Okay. Why did they even take your call? Why did they take you seriously? So, I got to give a shout out to my lovely cousin Heather. So there I don't know what camera we're looking at right now. So Heather, I love you hanging out down there in Texas. So So peak behind the curtain. I get now >> probably I think he told you at dinner last night my inbox I'll get 35 to 40 pitches for people to come on my show for every one that I take. Right. So I'm always looking for an excuse to say no to somebody. I'm not looking for any excuse to say yes. >> Right. >> But probably nine months ago, maybe even a year ago, my cousin Heather, she sends me this message and she's like, "You got to get this King Randall guy on your show." Yeah. Now, at the time, we didn't have the the studio set up in a way to where it was kind of conducive to bringing people in. And so, we had a few more things to get done. And the thing is is like I get pitches all the time and people that are like, "Hey, you should have this person on." >> Like, that's that's a secondary pitch cuz I get pitches directly from the people's representatives and then I get fans that are just like, "Hey, you need to have this person on." Mhm. >> And so she put me, you know, you on my radar. >> And so I'm following you on social media and I'm seeing some stuff and, you know, I really like it, especially the stuff with your son because I, you know, I have a similar aged son and you have a 5-year-old and a three-year-old. >> And then a few months ago again, she hit me with it again. And then I realized like, okay, this is that family persistence, uh, that's just not really going to go away. And so I started looking into it a little bit deeper. And that really coincided with us finishing out the studio. We got a new table from Sorex because we had a one private donor that's like, "Hey, I want y'all to have a table that's not some old dining room table you got off a Facebook marketplace for 150 bucks." And so we got this and so we were able to work it out. And then I even had her in the last couple of days. I'm like, "Hey, >> if you had to encapsulate >> why for her, why you're such a fan of King and the stuff that he's producing in his community, >> send me those videos or send me those clips or send me the the whatever news story or something like that." Mhm. >> But I think you and we're going to get into a lot of the different areas that you go to. The thing that I'm struck by is you don't seem to be a narrative driver. >> Because whether you're conservative or liberal, whether you're progressive, whether you're Democrat, Republican, Christian, atheist, whatever, it seems like everyone's kind of got, okay, here are my set things that I'm supposed to scream at the sky about. >> And also, if you have certain immutable characteristics, like where you were born, you can't control that. The level of melanin in your skin, you can't control that. like, you know, the parents you were given, you can't control that. That somehow we're entitled to be able to complain about this, this, this, or this. >> You seem to have an overcomers mindset that is not really seen a whole lot in people that are your age, especially people that, you know, had a public kind of facing personality early in their 20s. >> And so, I guess for you, I mean, we're going to get into all the detail, but how how is it that you even came to this place? Like can can you point to something like hey God God put me in a place to where I have this kind of influences it you know how you're raised cuz I think you last night dinner you were talking about your mom and your stepdad. So like what even gets you to the point where you're 21 years old and you're just looking at the world maybe differently than some of the people that are around you. >> Oh man. Um that's a loaded question. Um >> it was meant to be >> for me. Um this is regular. Um, I tell people all the time, especially Christians, I don't think you guys believe in the God that you say you believe in because what I'm doing shouldn't be like, oh my god, it shouldn't be radical. I'm like, everybody should be able to do this. But that's what I want to show people. Like, uh, cuz for example, like right now, people are like having meetings around the hometown and whatever because they think I'm running for mayor or something like that. And I'm like, I'm not running for anything. I am a private citizen that wants to show other private citizens what you're capable of. Or people's like, oh, he must have some ulterior motive or this and that. I'm like, I cannot make Albany any worse than it already is. That there there's nothing that I could do to it. There's nothing I can do myself to make Albin a bad place. Or because, you know, I've been to a couple of conservative events, but they won't say anything about the Democrat events I've been to or whatever. Like, I I participate with whoever sits, you know, at a table with me. That's important. Especially if the politician is actually in office or people get mad cuz I went and met with Governor Kemp of Georgia. I'm like, I'm sorry, but he's the governor. Like, >> are you supposed to say no, >> right? And he works for me, you know? So, it is what it is. I'm going to go, you know, meet with these people or whatever. So, I don't care what party they're affiliated with. And that's where we've lost ourselves. I told somebody before, you know, I've sat on both sides of the aisle. I've been to both types of events. I've talked to both types of politicians. I think both sides are full of it, you know. So, and again, they hate when you say that, but I'm still going to go if they invite me somewhere, I'm going to go talk to them. If they want to they want to meet with me, I'm going to meet with them. And that should be okay. We are not in a position in Albany to be running around talking about parties all day and night or whatever. Like, everybody's, "Oh, yeah, we turned Albany blue." Yeah, but go look outside. Alb has been blue forever. Go look outside. It doesn't matter what party we're in. We've had conservative people in office. We have Democrat people in office. Barack Obama's been president. Trump's been president. Biden's been president. Everybody's been president. New state senators, new state representatives. Albany has looked the same the entire time. We have a mixture of conservatives on our commission. We have Democrats on the commission. Albany has looked the same. The people that are walking around our hometown selling the whole party thing are the people that's holding our town down. I don't sell party. I said, "Let's do it for ourselves. Let's still vote, but let me show you what we can do." We have been duped into believing that all we need to do is believe in politicians and everything will change. Absolutely not. >> Voting is important. Voting is is something that men have had to die for to give us even the right to have the ability to do that. Elections have consequences, right? But my my buddy John Cooper probably had the best apologetic for this. He goes, "So, cuz you know, we we're both more conservative. Certainly more conservative." and he's like, "Look, the Republican party is going to take us to hell, too. It's just going to go a little slower." Yeah. Right. We're not going to kill, you know, millions of babies along the way that are existing in their mother's wombs. And like, >> so it's an apologetic of personal responsibility and personal fortitude because you're right. You know what hasn't changed? Whenever Democrats change or in office or you got a Republican mayor or you got a Republican president, the citizenry of Albany of Albany has not changed. >> Has not changed. And it's not just the the people, it's the mindset. >> The mindset. >> And so when one person has a particular mindset because you know you you get this, a mindset is like a disease and it can infect people. Yes. And if it's a terrible awful victimhood mindset, it's going to infect people. But like someone like you with what's going on in your town, you're like, "No, we're going to think about this differently." Like I told you last night, Jeff Elbert, who was on this show, you know, it was the shady 580. That was that was where we were from. Lot in Oklahoma. and you know, no one liked being from there, but then you were also proud at the same time. Don't talk about my hometown. >> But then, you know, now he's like, "No, this is the great 580. This is where we live." And so, it's like, if you're going to live in a house, why are you going to destroy it and then lay down at night and try to sleep there peacefully? Exactly. And so, it's like you're you're trying to infect them with good, you know, >> that's and that's what the the whole goal is like. Um, and and don't get me wrong, we have like these groups online, you know, for Albin. I'm sure I think most cities may have them, but there are groups online that are just dedicated to find everything bad. Like they got to pick apart every chief. They got to pick apart all the teachers. They got to pick up what the superintendent did. If he stole a lollipop in seventh grade, they want to expose it all. And so we follow all these pages. And while some of the stuff is, you know, information we do need to know. Don't get me wrong. Some of it is good information, but we also don't have a counter to that. Like we don't have anybody countering that and saying, "Okay, but this is all the positive things going on, too. share more positive things than all the negative things that they're sharing. And so that's where I come in. Um and that's truthfully I've kind of been the only person really trying to do that. I've kind of been holding the city's positive image on my back. Like no, we have all this great stuff going on in our hometown. Yes, there are bad things just like anywhere else, but stop with this whole thing like you're afraid to go outside in Albany that stop it. You know, I' I've been in Albany my whole life. I hadn't had nothing crazy happen to me or whatever like that. I'm not afraid to go to the projects. If just like our police chief has said, most of the crime is domestic. And people hate when he says that, but it's domestic. Meaning, if you are in those circles, you are going to get hurt. If you are not in those circles, every blue moon, you may have a stray bullet or or something like that, but you are not in the line of fire just going outside every day. They are trying to aim and shoot people that are, you know, [inaudible] them off or slept with their girlfriend or whatever like that. It's it's all, you know, those issues. And so now I'm in this place where I'm partnering with our city. I'm partnering with um our police department, etc. And I'm teaching them, hey, listen, let's control the morale of our town because morale is here. And since morale is so low, nobody believes in our hometown. So let's do an init a new initiative. Like for example, um I have the new good ticket initiative that I'm about to do with the police department. What we're going to do is partner with our local businesses and uh ask them can they offer a free service once a month for a good ticket. The officers will get good tickets and they will issue these good tickets out to people just in the community like if they're doing something good or if they had a great interaction when they pulled them over or whatever you and these tickets get you a free massage, free meal, free drink, whatever like and that'll bring people to businesses and also look at the police in a different way because I was at this uh committee meeting steering committee meeting that I was in and one of the ladies from my hometown um was asked by another lady who's not from our hometown. She's like, "How do y'all you know interact with the police department?" She was like, "I can't stand the police department." I'm just like, "But why though?" And then let me add Albany, Georgia is one of those rare towns where 77% African-American. So almost our whole police force is black. Like almost everybody's black. We got a few white officers. The chief is black. The deputy chief is black. Like everybody's black or whatever. So we not dealing with the whole racism thing issue, you know, with the Alb Police Department. And on top of that, what interactions are you having with the police for you to hate them? Because I don't interact with them. I don't do anything. So what exactly, you know, is is the issue? So I told the chief, let's try this initiative to where we could um push out, you know, some positivity and through the police department and get people to look at our police in a different way because we are seeing the police from the lens of how everybody else is seeing their police around the country. This is not our story in our hometown or the new initiative that I'm about to do with our city of Albany is we're about to start showcasing the unsung heroes of our town. Like so we're about to go do a story with a street sweeper that's out like 5:00 in the morning sweeping streets. We're going to do something with the telecom people who install fiber optic internet. We're going to do something. We're trying to do something with the fire department. Um, and just let people see the regular people that do these jobs every day or people that you didn't even know exist. So, when you see Miss Gloria sweeping the street at 5:00 in the morning, it may give you a sense of pride like, "Oh, I didn't know that somebody was cleaning the streets early in the morning." So, maybe I want to stop dropping paper off, you know, on the ground. It's little small things that will help people start to believe in their city again. Like I told them, there's thousands of positive things happening. We have this group in Albany called Sleeping Heavenly Peace. They build beds for kids, you know, that don't have them. People can sign up to get a bed and they build the beds from like wood, like real beds, and they deliver those beds to those kids. Or we have helping mamas in Albany where they're a nonprofit that helps moms, you know, because for those who keep their children or whatever like that, they make sure that their moms have everything that they need, car seats, uh, pampers, whatever, churches who are doing, you know, great giveaways. And I'm not talking about just like giving away Thanksgiving turkeys, but like actually helping people or other programming that people are doing in Albany that people don't know about. And so I've been using my platform to share what it is these people are doing and people are starting to believe. And that's what you have to do. You have to bring the good press because if you don't tell your story, somebody else will. And that's truly my only goal. I just want people to believe in Albany again. That is the sole goal for right now. 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So I I'm trying to tell people because I'm seeing some things that are very very concerning in uh in the public and there's some very very big time people and even in the conservative space >> that they're not providing evidence for their extreme claims that they're making about whatever topic. Okay. Right. And so I'm like, okay, if we're going to have truth tellers, which is what our journalists should be, but it, you know, that hasn't really been that way for decades, if if it ever was, >> they're just attention getters now, >> right? Yeah. Because we need your clicks, cuz if we don't get your clicks, we don't get your money. And if we don't get your money, then we don't exist. So I understand, I understand the grift, >> but if we're talking about capital T truth, the ultimate truths or something like that, we have to hold our truth tellers to a very high evidentiary standard. Mhm. >> Okay. You've made this claim. That is a grandiose claim to what appealing uh you know authority do you appeal to to make this claim. What substantiation do you have for this particular claim? And trust me, bro is not good enough. Right? So I tell guys in the gym, you see a jacked dude in the gym and you ask him, "Hey, what kind of supplements are are you taking?" And he's like he gives you his list and you ask him, "Hey, is this safe if I take them?" And he goes, "Yeah, trust me, bro." That's a terrible decision. Don't do that. Right? He is not equipped to be able to say, "Trust me, bro." And for you to just follow along with it. But for the people in your city, it's that they need a new plausibility structure for what it is to be, I don't know what you call the people from your city, Alanian. Albanians. All right? So, if you're an Albanian, but not from Albania, but if you're an Albanian in Georgia, >> this is what it means because you're giving them identity. This is the same thing that I talk about with my sons, 5-year-old and a three-year-old. >> We don't talk about, "Hey, James, don't do that. Hey, Eli, don't do that." that it's James and Eli. Thompsons don't do that. I'm calling them into an identity of what a Thompson is. Thompsons are honest in our home. And this will be this way until they're no longer in our home. The punishment is doubled if you lie. >> Mhm. >> What? Well, why? Because we're going to put honesty on an incredibly high. We're going to have a very, very high standard for honesty. Right. >> So, if something ever goes wrong, you come to mom and dad. Now, that doesn't mean you're going to be without consequences. But if you if you lie, if it was going to be a week grounding, it's two weeks grounding. that just it it just is the way it is. But you're trying to give them an identity, a plausibility structure to welcome them into. So I'm just curious for you like if you were just being like flat out honest, right? Because this isn't a political rally, but if you're just being flatout honest, >> how much have you seen the attitude of the citizenry of your of your town change? And and before you answer, I'm talking to guys right now. There's people all over the world listening to this and guess where they live? >> Cities and towns, right? And they may have complaints about their city and town or they might love I happen to love where I live. >> But they may have a lot of complaints, but then they turn to naval gazing and they just think, "Oh, well, I guess it's just going to always be this way." Or, "I'm not the mayor. I'm not the police chief. I can't really affect change in my city." Right? >> So, one guy that's got an an idea that leads to other ideas. What type of shift have you honestly seen with where you're at now? And then what do you see kind of in that near term future? >> So, I actually did a survey um with our traffic, we are the traffic movement. Um, I did a survey because I wanted to see where people's minds were um, with the we are the traffic movement and I want to do another one because I did that one probably like about two months in. I want to do another one now that we're almost 5 months in. Basically on this survey I asked them, you know, have they been losing weight? Did they work out before? You know, all these things. But I also got into other questions. Have you interacted with people from different backgrounds and different races? And almost everybody said yes. And then the other question was, has this changed your perception of people from different backgrounds and different races? And 66% of those people said yes. So what you're seeing on social media and what you're seeing on TV, etc., is not real life. And I was glad to see this because this is what's happening at the runs. You have uh these regular black guys, regular white people, we have Indian people. I mean, we have we've had every race come out there. And so what's happening is Miss um Sarah Anne uh she come she comes and runs. She's a 54 year old lady and then you have these black guys with dreads. But all she's ever seen black guys with dreads do is commit crime, right? But when she comes out here and interacts with them and he brings her a Gatorade every week or whatever and he comes and runs and encourages her, she's like, "Oh yeah, >> maybe they all aren't like that." Or him saying, "Well, I think all old white people is racist." But to see her loving on him and giving him a hug every week or whatever in the family that they've created now they're understanding that oh hm all white people must not be racist. It's everything that you see online is not real for the most part. I'm like these conversations that you're having online half of the arguments we argue about online are never happening in person. Like even the whole gay thing, I never have gay conversations in person. When I see somebody that's homosexual or or transgender or whatever, hey, how you doing? Good to see you. And I move right along. Like nobody's having these super overarching conversations in person because most people just exist or whatever. Most people just hang out, say hello, go to church together, go to work together, whatever. And half of these conversations online, it's just attention getting pieces or whatever. It's it's just grifting. People just want to get the clicks um to get the clicks and and honestly to make the money. And so they generate all these conversations and make people feel like they hate each other. So we are in person hating each other for no reason. Like this one guy in our hometown, I'll call his name. His name is Tom Garrick. U Mr. Tom is an old white guy. He owns this automotive repair shop like smack dab in the middle of town. He has a he's right in the on the corner of one of our busiest streets. And so he hosts all these car washes and workshops or whatever for these kids in the community, most of them black. Uh most of the football teams, etc. He supports or whatever. He allows them to, you know, use his uh space for free to raise money or whatever. He does so much. He takes kids into his home. He feeds them, whatever. Black kids, whatever. And so he was upset when Charlie Kirk was killed and he did a Charlie Kirk visual. And the way they treated that man online, the same man who's done so much for our hometown, even if you don't agree with Charlie Kirk or whatever, half of the time, a lot of it just be conversations you took out of context or whatever like that. But even if that's just something he believes in, I don't think Mr. Tom is a bad person now or that he's a racist. And I mean, they were calling him all types of names. This is the same man that has helped and done so much for the city of Albany just as a private citizen. And stuff he doesn't have to do, he does for free. He supported all of my events. When I first opened my school up, he was there to come help build bumped for the students. Um he's done workshops there for my kids or whatever. Never asked for a dime. Never mentions, you know, what color they are or nothing. He's just like, I just want these kids to do better or whatever. He's just a old regular old white guy that smoked cigarettes and run his automotive repair shop. That is it, you know. And they treated him so bad. And I'm just like, well, what the heck have y'all been doing for Albin besides running your mouth? Like, this man is put in a lot of work for the hometown. And maybe if you didn't agree with Charlie Kirk, how about you go just have a conversation with Mr. Tom himself because the shop's always open and he's willing for everybody, anybody to pull up there and come have a conversation with him. Um, so he had left the vigil up for a little while. Some people came and damaged it or whatever like that, but anyway, that dissipated. But like just that's what we're seeing online again is not real in person. And that's how we treat everything. Like we treat life now like it's social media and it's not. I I even listen to people having conversation. They all of their phrases come from social media. Everything they say is coming from social media. The conversation they're having is from social media. I'm like, "Hey, let's have a real in-person like real life conversation." >> Right. Well, I I even tell people sometimes like, "Dude, go touch some grass. >> Yes. Go outside. >> You have been your thumbs are tired. The rest of your body is not like and so I was even talking to a buddy of mine. He you know was kind of a pretty chill guy. He goes, "Man, I scrolled Twitter. I just doom scrolled for like 30 minutes and now I feel like we're about to go to war and we got to [clears throat] do this. We got Okay, now you have to understand that there are parties that there are interested parties that want to get you, you know, activated in a particular direction. What is the best way to get someone activated? It's not positivity, it's outrage, right? It's negativity. >> But I look at it as well, >> there's [clears throat] the anecdotal experiences. And so one of the best compliments you could get from somebody and so I know some pastors that do this really well where they will interact with somebody that you know identifies as you know as gay or identifies as transgender or something like that. And these people feel loved and not condemned because it's not up to the Christian to condemn the person. It's their sin that condemns them because they are a wretched black-hearted sinner that that needs to be covered by the blood of Jesus. >> But in that moment, it's kind of the same thing. When I was younger, I had a guy who uh two of his best friends growing up ended up uh you know uh going the way of being homosexual and living that lifestyle and they were going to be getting married even though gay marriage is not really a thing because marriage has a definition and God gets to make that definition. You had this guy going, "Man, my two best friends are going to be getting married. They're definitely going to ask me to be in their wedding. What do I do?" >> And dude, I'm like your age at this time and he's asking me this question. And the first thing that came to mind, it was just, you know, Holy Spirit was basically like, you can't go to a ceremony that celebrates something that God calls an abomination. >> However, >> the very first home that they should be welcomed into after their non-wedding, non-honeymoon is yours, >> and you should love on them, and you should feed them, and you should conversate with them and have a good time and play games >> and so, but there are lines that have to be drawn. But you and I talked about this at dinner last night. I feel like so many people forget what it was like to be in sixth grade. Right. Cuz I saw my sixth grade class picture from Crosby Park Elementary in Lton, Oklahoma. And there's 20 of us in class, probably eight white kids, five black kids, couple of Asian kids, couple of Native American kids, couple kids that know, we didn't really, you know, know what they were. But you know what it was for us? It was that's that's Nikki, that's Ivan, like that's Leonard, right? There was never this idea like, oh, I am a white kid in this class. Now, we were not dumb. We knew that these kids were all different colors. We knew their parents were different colors and, you know, different hairstyles and different whatevers, you know, but it never filtered down into, okay, I should view you in a particular way >> because of something that you can't control because what you can control is your character and your actions. Absolutely right. So, I can't control that I'm translucent. You can see through me. That's how that's how my skin is. >> But that doesn't define what I am. It just shows me what I am. And I tell people all the times like whatever your skin color is, God gave that to you as a gift for some reason. Whatever height you are, whatever texture your hair is, whatever uh color your eyes are, for whatever reason, God gave that to you as a specific gift that is somehow supposed to reveal his glory because he reveals his glory in creation and we are made in his image. So there's something special to that. >> But we've just bought into these cultural lies that we are to think a certain way because we look a certain way and it's just nefarious. >> Yeah. It's, you know, and and kids don't you don't even really have to have that conversation with a kid. I mean, my my son's six and he's the only black kid on his baseball team or whatever. And >> it's funny. It's two I think it's two mixed kids on there, but he's the only like pure black kid there. And um nobody's ever had this conversation. Like nobody's ever just been like, "Oh, you know, >> there's no need. Everybody loves him the same. The coaches love him to death, you know, whatever." I think if I died, the coaches would take him and and and foster him until he was, you know, ready or whatever. Like that's how much I believe in his coaches. And I wouldn't have him around anybody that I thought was bad for him. I'm not trying to specifically find a black coach because I need a black coach to give something to my black son. Like no, I believe if if you going to put something into my son, you know, whatever, I'm going to put him around you, you know. And I have men around my son for a reason. Um because I don't know everything. And it's very important um that we recognize that because I had a situation when I was coaching my son's baseball team uh beginning of this year. Um, uh, one of my, uh, players, uh, had got disrespectful with his mom, like in a dugout, like loudly or whatever. And I checked him. I'm like, "Hey, son." I'm like, "Don't you ever talk to your mama like that again." Like, you know, don't ever do that. His dad came to me now. They not married. But his dad came to me and was like, "Hey, you don't need to do all that. You know, he got a daddy and he got parents. You don't need to tell him that." I'm like, "What?" Like, I would I would get furious if the coach didn't say something to my son. Like if I found out my son was was going off on his mama or something and somebody just stood there and let it happen, I would lose my mind. For one, I would get on my son, but why didn't you say anything to him? So all of his coaches, I'm listen, however y'all coach the other kids, y'all can do that. But however you would treat your son, treat mine. That's how I want you to do him. So if you need to get on his butt, get on his butt. If you need to say something to him or get on like get on him, get on him or whatever because I don't know everything. And then also these men have different characters. All their characters are good in my opinion, but they all are different characters. So, his boxing coach like Coach Dino and then his personal baseball coach, Coach Murray, and his uh team's coach, Coach Howell and Coach Matt and uh you know, Coach Brantley or whatever, like all these guys are different, but they all will put something into him in different ways that I may not be able to or they may be able to teach him something. Like Coach Dino is like uh you know, close to 60. Um Coach Murray is like close to 40 and so are his other baseball coaches. And I'm a young dad. I'm 26 or whatever. So, it's a lot that I don't know. But in the reverse also, those guys also look up to me and how I dad because I I always say I'm the greatest father of all time. We all think that or whatever, but I truly like love the dad thing and they watch me do it. And sometimes it's just like, man, I wish I could father like you. But in the reverse, they don't realize that I envy their lives. I'm like, man, like y'all got wives and y'all at home with y'all kids and whatever. Like I've messed up in my life. I've been divorced and whatever. So even though you love how I parent, I just love your life. I I enjoyed that you, you know, got a regular job and your wife doesn't have to work. You got two kids. Y'all doing your thing. I didn't I didn't make the right decisions to be able to live that life or whatever. As much as I tried to avoid like being like my dad or like being the typical black dude with baby moms and stuff, I did my best to avoid it, but decisions I made, I missed I missed out on that. So, I also am like, okay, I'm not the perfect dad. I'm not the perfect dad on that end. I think I'm great, you know, with training them and great with teaching them, you know, moral principles or whatever like that. But to show them family and stuff, I haven't given them yet or whatever and I got to do that soon because, you know, right now they're six and four. They not understanding the family dynamic yet. But as they get older, they're going to need to see a family. And so that's, you know, something that I was like, man, I got to start working on that. I got to figure that out, you know, within myself. And that's what I've said, you know, like again, they those guys like love me and they look up to me and they was almost like fans before, you know, they were out obviously interacting with me every day because they have my son and I'm always with them. But I'm always in my head like, man, you don't understand how much I love your life. you know, I I keep y'all around me because I love to see what I I need to be capable of doing as far as having a family or whatever because people think I'm cool and all this because of all this great stuff I do for the community or whatever like that. But no, I'm like, I have personal, you know, life stuff that I have to figure out on my own that you may not see him because it's always going to be a mystery cuz I don't share like my personal life or whatever like that. But those are things that I need to fix on my own that I really have to fix in order to be a wholly, you know, fully uh Christlike great man. Um, and that's just something I have to fix. >> Well, so, uh, I'm curious to dig in to that just a little bit more because, you know, looking at cultural trends in America since, let's just look at the 70s, the only racial cohort that has not had an increase in uh, single motherhood or fatherless homes is Asians, right? So, Asian-Americans, so that would be India China Japan whatever. >> But every other racial cohort has exploded by percentage. So I believe in the 70s uh single motherhood out of wedlock births in for whites was like 3% now it's in the 30s for Hispanics it was like 15% now it's 50%. For black families it was like 25% now it's 75%. So three out of four black kids are growing up without dad in the home. And I think and I'm certainly not unique in this thought that basically every societal ill can go back to men macro men not doing what God would have them to do and secondarily boys being raised by women and not being raised by men. Right? It it's a it's so nefarious it's hard to even put your finger on it. But like think about what would happen if just that if we could like wave a magic wand and just that would be fixed that every single child in America would live in the same home with their with you know their children because the sociologically speaking it's like sociology always catches up to the Bible but the best chance for child success is a child that is raised in a home with biological mom biological dad in a low conflict setting where the family goes to church. Right? >> And so that's the ideal, but most people don't live in the ideal world. I didn't grow up in the ideal world. You didn't grow up in the ideal world. And then here we are now. >> But there's something that you're saying that, you know, I grew up in a a town where there were a lot of people of all colors, black, white, you know, Mexican, didn't matter. There were a lot of kids that didn't have dad around. And the dads didn't give a you know what. They didn't care, right? They were totally okay with siring children but not fathering them. >> And so here you are. you find yourself in a kind of unique spot because I hate talking in terms of communities. Oh, the gay community, this community, but if you want to talk about it that way, in the black community, there are a lot of men that are okay with siring children but not fathering them. Now, you're in this circumstance where you have sired children, but now you're also trying to father them, >> but not in the family unit with their mothers. And gosh, that is like that's a maze, man. That is a maze to try and like figure out how to do that because >> you have to be healthy personally, right? >> Right. But you would give up your health for your sons because you're a good dad, right? And so you're trying to do the best by them knowing that you're still kind of paying for the mistakes that you've, you know, already said that you made as a younger man >> and you going to pay for them forever. Like it's like those mistakes you made, you can't get them back. Like you can't undo it. You can't undo like the relationships you had. You can't undo having the child or whatever out of wet like whatever. You can't undo it. So you have to live with those mistakes. But I want to talk about something. Um what I believe is the reason for that society has moved us into believing that um the way we are right now as men is supposed to be normal like us wanting multiple different women and you know having a lot of sex and this and that or whatever like not being able to control our urges and and whatever. We've been made to think that that is how we're supposed to live to the point where we're trying to tell our spouses like, listen, you're just going to have to I'm going to have a woman or two here on the side and I'm going to be this way. I'm you just going to have to suck it up and eat it, you know, like I'm I'm going to be a man. I'm going to take care of you still. I'm not going nowhere, but you know, I'm still going to have somebody here and there or whatever like that. Like they've made us think like that's how we're supposed to live. like you just have to, you know, maneuver and teach all them the different way and train all of them to understand how you're going to be and this and that or whatever like that versus >> we're not supposed to do that. Like we and we don't even realize how addicted to sex we actually are. And I'm and I'm telling people it's an actual addiction because it's just like crack. I didn't realize it was true addiction till I actually tried to stop. Like I'm like, "Okay, I got to stop this." Like it's this is becoming too much. I'm going to lose everything I got. I'm going to lose my my kids. I'm going to lose like what I'm doing if I keep trying to go around and have sex with every woman I could think of or whatever. And when I tried to stop, I didn't realize how regular it had become, you know, in my life, like how almost reliant I was on it. Um to the point where I was realizing like I'm looking at every woman I see like just kind of sexualizing them. And I was like like oh SNAP LIKE I'M WHAT? Like this is what I've been doing for years. Like just looking at a woman like I can look at what she I bet she can do this or do that or whatever. like imagining her immediately like soon as I see her or whatever and I'm just like man this is sick like and and even just like conversations we had with our guys like man that girl you know or sending each other videos of girls or whatever like that and also you know I've I've said it's you know very predatory because you know they know how men are in 2025 and how they've you know made us to believe that that's normal and so now they're monetizing it like girls are like oh yeah they got men like we buying only fans and we watching the twerk videos all day. I mean, Twitter got straight porn on it, you know, whatever. Like, you just go watch I mean, and you get stuck on that stuff. Um, so I had like made a I'm like, listen, I'm through with it all. I'm not even masturbating. Like, I'm just like, "No, we're just going to go straight absent. I don't want to talk to nobody." I deleted all the apps off my phone. And like, it's been so much peace. And I didn't even realize how much peace it was. So I realized I wasn't juggling like a whole bunch of attitudes and a whole bunch of women and and juggling trying to make sure this person don't find out about that person and this person don't find this out and trying to hide going on a trip with this person and go like this is how you know we were living especially like for a man with access and I I come to understand the scripture about the camel going through the aisle of needle then and the rich guy not being able to make it to heaven or whatever like that. And I understood that because it takes a different type of man to have such access to be able to do all the things that are debauchery and not do it and to control those lust. Um because people like Samson and King Solomon, whatever, you you were destroyed. You had purpose. That's right. You you were doing something that God called you to do, but you will get destroyed if you cannot control that urge. Um, and that's something that I had to like just be like, listen, I'm gonna lose everything I got if I do not take control of this. I will keep ruining relationships. And I'm not talking about just with women. I mean, just people in general like trying to like, I got a business relationship with this person, then I call myself trying to, you know, sneak a little flirty in here and there or whatever like that instead of just having a business relationship with XYZ person or just finding anybody attractive or whatever. Like, like, no, this is this is a sickness. It's an actual addiction. And I challenge men like who are even listening to this like for you that can't go a day or two without masturbating or not watching porn like try to try to do it for a week and realize how bad it really is. Try to do it for seven days. You won't even realize how bad it is. Like try to like not talk to a woman for seven days. Don't watch uh porn. Don't watch no twerk videos. Unfollow the chicks that got the big booties and all that stuff like that. Or even the chick you're following that you think is extra sexy or whatever. She may not be posting provocative things, but you're thinking of her provocatively. unfollow all them and just take a second and see how bad it really is and you would find out something about yourself like this was a problem like >> yeah you thought you had control and you didn't >> and you didn't and that's where I want us to get and so that's where we are it's it ain't even that you know they're okay with siring kids they just having so much sex to the point where they're just having kids or whatever and just because that's what sex does it has kids and so you just having kids you know and not that you want to have cuz half of them trying to convince somebody get like please get an abortion don't have a kid or whatever well if you had this kid. I ain't going to take care of it. You know, whatever like that. Cuz they trying to get her to really not have the kid. Then it turns into if the dad dad is trying to be a dad, then they, you know, put that against them if they don't want to be together, you know, like, oh, well, you're not going to see your baby and this and that. It's a it's a whole cycle all got to do with us being addicted to sexual activity. That's all it is to me. And from top to bottom, if we could control ourselves and even like for example, like people who are poor or whatever like that, they say, you know, poor people all they going to do is is is have sex and argue. That's why most poor people are going to jail and having a whole bunch of kids because they don't have anything else to do quote unquote or whatever. But I'm like, if we have something to do and also get rid of the sexual immorality, I think things would slowly, you know, dissipate or whatever and we have to start talking about that directly. Like, let's stop the whole like, of course, we're going to say, you know, make sure we going to church and get God back in our life. Like, no, let's say you are addicted to sex. Let's start there and and go ahead and take accountability for that. Cuz most men will like, I ain't addicted to no sex. Okay, go seven days without it. Go seven days without talking to no woman. Go seven days without the social media. And I mean like not cold turkey and watch how bad it gets. Like watch the urges you get at nighttime or watch the urges you get like walking down the street or whatever. And I'm talking about not even masturbating. You're going to get some crazy urges because that's when the temptation comes when you're trying to stop it and when you're trying to be uh righteous. And that's where I believe we've gotten to. We've gotten addicted to sex and everything's slowly showing with that. And with the age of social media and phones and easy access to be able to talk to people and send DMs and meet somebody that you like the next day that you just met or whatever, you know, that's that's where we are. And so I think again the world and and these people on social media, the algorithms are playing into the idea that we are addicted to sex. So they are using it to just make money off of us while the world's destroying itself. >> Well, and even if so, even if you don't believe it's an addiction, right? So whether you think it's a compulsion, not an addiction, or whether you personally are like, "I'm not addicted." Treat it like it is though. >> So lie to yourself. It's not an addiction. Okay? But treat it like it's an addiction to something that will kill you. Okay? >> It will. >> Because the only sin that is described as a sin as to our own body in scripture is sexual immorality. Sexual sin. And sexual immorality is any sex outside of a covenant marriage between one man and one woman for life. Right? And so this is what I tell people because I'm very open on my show that I used to look at porn and masturbate all the time, right? That would that was my self soothing thing or however you want to couch it in a psychological terms, but it hasn't been part of my life for like 16 or 17 years, right? No porn, no masturbation. It's just not a part of my life. So predecision does come into play here because it's like, okay, I'm not wondering what I'm going to do the next time I'm alone, right? Because I've preddecided that I'm just not a person that does that. But I do have a lot of guys that will hear me talk about that and then they'll send me an email or a DM. They're like, "Hey man, I'm just I'm really struggling with with porn. I'm really struggling blah blah." And one day, cuz I'd heard so many people, King say that in a row. And they use the same word struggle. I just kind of snapped on this guy. Polite snap, but it was a snap. I was like, "Dude, if you had struggled more, you'd have more success by now." Y, >> you would have more victory because you know what it takes to overcome >> struggle, right? So, if you want to be in shape, if you want to have a strong body if you want to have good cardio, what does that take? Struggle. You have to struggle through those workouts when you don't want to do it, when you're a little sore, when you're a little bit, you know, [inaudible] off or whatever the thing is, you have to struggle. And so, I remember when I was first trying to get a handle on this, you know, porn thing and trying to figure out how to not do it. And because it can't just be like what? White knuckle discipline like I'm not going to do it. I go to this group and it's one of those men's groups that I now hate with a burning passion. You walk in the room. >> Uhhuh. >> You don't know anybody and they say, "Hey, great to meet you. Here's your name tag. Write your name on it. You're going to be at table seven. Go sit down with a bunch of strangers. Just start pouring your heart out. All right. See you later." Okay. Terrible way of doing men's ministry, first of all. But then I sit in this circle and I'm just trying to get the lay of the land or whatever. And so they're doing their recap for their last week. >> And you got this guy who's like, "Yeah, you know, I made it >> I made it two days without looking at porn, but then I fell." And so, and then you got the guy leading the table. He's like, "Whoa, man. You made it a whole two days. Great. Good job. Let's see if we can make it three next week." And I'm like, "Okay." And then you had this other guy. You want to talk about crazy? This dude was a pharmacist, okay? But he liked jumping off and like he was on the apps and he would meet up with girls and like parking lots and have sex and all that. Well, he got some STDs and he passed the STD on to his wife. He knew that, but the wife didn't. Wow. >> The wife thought she had something else going on. >> Mhm. but he's a pharmacist. So, he was spiking her food with the medication to clear up her STD. Right? That's the level of depravity this guy was with. And we're sitting here in a table and it just seemed like everybody was okay with it. And I never came back cuz I was like, "No, no, no. I don't need a bunch of [ __ ] around here. I need guys that are ready for victory. I need guys that are ready to storm the gates of hell. And these dudes are, you know, in the back folding up the laundry. >> You got to have men like that around you." And that's that was something I had to be adamant about. I was like, "No, I need my aggressive like real men around me." And I knew exactly who to call. Like, and you know to your men around you and those are the men you avoid when you're living living like that. Like for example, I mentioned brother Aaron earlier. He was one of those guys who going to say, "No, brother. You don't need to be doing that. You going to mess yourself up. Can you going to lose this, you going to lose that." And and so I had a conversation with um a friend of mine this uh past week when I like was just like, "Bro, I'm I'm losing myself." And he was like, "Bro," he said, "I'm going just tell you like this." He like, "You I'mma tell you real quick." He was like, "You gonna lose everything that you got." He said, "Not tomorrow." He said, "But everything that you're doing, all this stuff you're working on, whatever, all this great grand plans you got, you're going to lose it." And he was like, "As a matter of fact," cuz I was telling him, I said, "Man, even I, you know, have watched my son, my son is great at baseball. Great great baseball player. He could be even better." And I told him, I said, "I watched my son struggle with some things, and I know for a fact that that's something we should have practiced on. That's something we should have done, you know, in our own practice." He was like, "But you you made time to go get some head, didn't you? You made time to go go meet this girl, right?" So, he was like, "So, think about it. every time you about to do something, you're choosing that over your kid. Or I told him, I watched my son boxing and I watched my son like, you know, he's sparring or whatever and I saw a couple things he could have worked on. He said, "Cool. So you'd rather watch your son go get his head knocked off cuz you want some head or you want to go talk to this chick when you should be in the gym training your son so he can go out there and be the best that he can be." So he's like, "So that's what you do. You choose your penis over your son, Mr. I'm the best father in the whole world. That's what you're doing or whatever." And he told me that directly like, "And that's what you need around you. Like you need men like that to to tell you like, "Bro, you tripping. You tripping bad." And those are also men that's going to be like, "But you going to make your own decisions, so I'm just telling you what the consequence is going to be." >> But we don't have enough guys in our life, King. Okay. You're you're talking about something I talk about all the time. And that's creating a foxhole of dudes around you. >> Because I say there's a difference between a 600 p.m. friend and a 3:00 a.m. friend, right? So there's a bunch of dudes that got 600 p.m. friends. So, if you need, you know, >> help moving something or you need, you know, you need some advice on something or whatever, you know, that guy's available until about 6:00 and then he's just kind of spacing out after that. >> But who are the guys that at 3:00 in the morning when your world is completely falling apart that you know if you pick up the phone and call them, not only that they're going to answer, but they are going to be activated because they love you and they love the people around you and they love your family and they are willing to go to war on your behalf. >> Right? >> We got a lot of fellas. We got a lot of dudes. We got a lot of bros. We don't have a whole lot of foxhole brothers, right? >> Real foxhole brothers that'll go through the trials with you. >> That's right. And are not afraid of grabbing you by the scruff of your shirt and going, "King, >> you're not you're not hitting the mark." Okay. And even like I always use this example and you know, we get new viewers every week and I know we're going to pick up some some people from your audience as well. So I I like this apologetic because it's like, okay, well, what does that actually mean? So I'm I'm kind of a funny guy. I'm a sarcastic guy, but sometimes I go too far. >> Mhm. And I don't realize I've crossed the line until later when I'm reflecting on I was like, "Oh, that was that wasn't the joke." You need a guy that if you're at dinner and you're the joking guy and you say a joke that is at your wife's expense, which I have done, >> you need a guy that on the in the parking lot as y'all are walking back to the car. Hey buddy, you know I love you. Um, you said that joke and you embarrassed your wife >> and you're just not going to do that around me ever again or we're going to have problems, >> right? Because worst case scenario in that scenario is y'all get in a fist fight. Okay? Well, guess what? Most guys, you get punched in the face at some point, you realize you're not made of porcelain, you're going to be okay, right? >> You need some guys that are willing to risk you punching them in the face because they love you so much that they're willing to say that. Because if you're surrounded by a bunch of dudes that notice things but don't say anything, >> those aren't dudes you >> I hate that. I hate when they, oh, I well, I about to say no. Why you didn't say it? Why did you not say it? Cuz me, I love I don't I'll take correction. I don't mind it. I don't care who you are. If something is wrong and I didn't notice it or whatever, say something to me. I don't care. Like I will fix it or change it or whatever. So, you know, my staff or whatever. I'm like, listen, if y'all got different ideas, whatever, say something. Like, if you think that that might not work, say something. Like, I don't I'm not one of those people that can't take that. Like, please give it to me. Cuz I would like to be have people around me that aren't afraid to say, "Well, you should try this or try that or I don't like this or I don't like that." No, I don't want to be one of those leaders. Please tell me what's going on. Um, you got to have that or even listening to your kids, man. And I want to talk about like just um like for example like how in our community um we have this whole don't talk back thing or whatever. And I I've wanted to critique this for a while. I'm glad I'm able to do it here. We have this thing like just be honest in the black community where it's like if parents say something you don't say nothing back, you know, shut up. You know, like I said sit down and that's what you going to do. He can't ask a question. He can't say why. Whatever. Uh, of course you can't have an attitude or like, but we we've lived like that. And be honest, our our counterparts, I watch white people interact with their kids. And sometimes black folks are like, "Oh, why they let their kids be so disrespectful, blah blah blah blah blah blah, whatever like that." And I'm watching the kids on the baseball team, they just going back and forth with their dads or whatever like that. But then I began to realize how my son is a little bit more timid than all the other kids. All the other kids will say, "No, I don't like that. No, I don't want to be do this or he they're standing up for themselves." But I had realized that because I had taught my son kind of that you don't say nothing back when somebody says something to you that you don't like. you don't I'm like there has to be a fine line there where I teach them no you can say something back within the bounds of good taste say something back you know whatever if you don't like that say I don't want to do that I don't like that because that'll translate to you being an adult because then you'll create that same timid man who's at his job and scared to say something to the boss or can't get promoted because he was scared to stand up for himself versus the other kids who may have grown up what you call disrespectful they they're soaring in life because they're able to go into rooms and stand up for themselves. It's very important that we have to learn that. So, I've changed like shift my thinking on that like, okay, if you have something to say back, say it or whatever and and and I'll explain why, you know, this or XYZ, so you can have an understanding versus, hey, no, be quiet. I I said something, did I ask you a question? You know, don't say nothing back to me. You know, this and that and the third. No, if you have a a true issue, say something because I want you to be able to think about that and I need to be able to understand why you may be having an issue also versus, hey, shut up. I said this, sit down and that's it, you know. >> Well, and you know, so I grew up in a sit down and shut up household, right? And um >> but you do want kids to be emboldened to like, hey, don't just say it. Say it with your chest. Say it with some conviction, >> right? >> But you already said it's got to be in proper timing. It's got to be in a proper context, right? You don't you don't talk back to coach in the middle of practice, right? >> So if coach says, "We're doing drills." And you go, "I don't feel like doing drills." Mhm. >> That is a good way to earn yourself some gas or son and dad's not going to save you. >> Within the bounds of good taste, >> right? Within the bounds of good taste. But then also with with kids because we live in a community and I've kind of talked to you a little bit about it. >> The way I hear some kids talk to their parents. So my wife and I had kids a little bit later than some of our friends. So we got to see a bunch of examples of really bad parenting where basically the the parents handed over the keys of parenting to the children and they would basically be asking their child permission to punish them. Mhm. >> So there's the other end of the spectrum, which is probably worse, I would say, because sit down, shut up. >> God has a lot of those in in scripture. It's kind of like, yeah, that's great, Gideon. Sit down, shut up. You're going to do this for me. >> But there has to be a way to where you're teaching the kid, hey, I would love to hear your opinion of what just went down, >> right? >> But dad has ultimate authority. Okay? So you may not like it, but guess what? You're going to do it. And then there is a point along the way where I have sufficiently heard your complaints. we have come to different conclusions. You don't get a vote because this is my house, right? And that is a great thing for a child to learn. But you're absolutely right there. The two extremes are probably not there. And unfortunately, King, if I'm being honest, I'm more so on the Hey, whoa, did I did I ask you for your feedback? Oh, I'm so sorry. Did I say to do it? That's what we're going to do. >> And my wife is very, very loving and very like, hey, [clears throat] >> they needed to tell you something because you were actually wrong. And then you feel about this big cuz you're like I just showed my kid >> arrogant persistence which is not the right kind of persistence. We need polite persistence where it's like no there is a misunderstanding here. I'm trying to write the wrong but you're also not understanding. So we got to we got to have a place for that for sure. >> Yeah we can have a place for it. And like I said, just having that line um especially like for boys in particular because when we get to an impass where we both disagree, there's also going be a time where they're going to get old enough where they're going to be like, "Okay, well, we're at an impass." And then there's this line of violence here because every dad and son has the moment, the one everybody up to dad, >> everybody knows it. Everybody remembers the moment. Every dad and every son has had the moment because we have both reached an impass. We both disagree. So now violence will appear and and that's just is what it is and it's going to happen and whoever wins is whose authority gets stick but of course that's when the son discovers that listen I don't care how tall you are don't care how big you are you don't have grown man strength and people don't real I didn't realize grown man strength was a thing until I started getting older like there is just a thing called grown man strength it's just like a little a button that clicks by the time you turn like 27 28 or whatever like it's that grown man strength kicks in or whatever and you it's kick He could be 18 years old doing whatever, but he it's just something about that. >> That was the age I was when I bowed up to dad who I was physically bigger than and all that. And I was just like, "Oh no." Afterwards, I was like, "Thank God that didn't go down because old man strength would have kicked in to my detriment." >> Yes. And but that just has to happen. But definitely, you know, allowing them to even experience that too. Like there are sometimes you might have to do that or whatever, but it's just very important for us to to think about also just what our own kids need. Like for example, my sons are all completely different kids. Yeah, they all do different things. They like different things. They act different. And so what K2 may need, William. Like for example, K2 loves school. He loves to draw. He loves to do everything right. Say yes ma'am, no ma'am. He doesn't lie or whatever. Williams the opposite. He hates school. He does not like to He'll lie sometime. Um he doesn't like like certain things. is um Baby King might want to he don't he don't like to draw or Baby King might want to watch TV. He don't want to watch TV. Like William is complete opposite kid, you know, for him and and my my younger son, he's just happy to be alive. But William and Baby King are so different. Like for example, like even with speaking about sports. Baby King, the reason he's good is because he learns very quickly. However, Baby King always only gives 90%. Because he knows his 90% is just good enough. He He knows if he does 90%, he's still going to hit a far ball. If I run 90% fast, I'm still going to get there. But we always are like, man, if you just gave 110, you'd hit a bomb every time you swing the bat. You'd run super fast. You'd get like if you just gave or even in boxing, we like, hey, if you would just please give that last 10%. Put some aggression on your face. Versus in William, we don't have to say anything about effort. William is going to go and give 110% every time, but he doesn't learn as fast as Baby King does. So, it's like they're both completely different and the same at the same time. So, I have to teach William a different way cuz I have to focus on true mechanics with William like listen calm down for a second. Let me show you how to actually swing or let me show you how to really get the ground ball like properly cuz he's just like ah, you know, versus baby King's going to do everything right. Oh, he's going to field it right. He's going to gas pedal. He's going to get his steps in. He going to throw it right. He going to do all he going to swing perfect, but he only going to give 90% with it because he knows he's just good enough. And I'm like, dude. So some like one time I [inaudible] him off for a game on purpose. Goes out there, bam. I mean, hitting the ball, running fast, he's just angry. I'm like, do you see what you could do if you just turn that thing on, you know, but it'll come with time, you know. It'll come with time. It's funny because we we watched the World Series uh when it the other day. That's right. And um I don't know what happened to him, but something clicked um he was watching the World Series, had his little fake bat in there. He was like swinging with them and watching the game or whatever. He was just having a blast. So the next day we go to practice and he's like, "Hey, I want to wear my Dodgers gear." Cuz I went to a Dodgers game before and I brought him some um gear back. He's like, "I want to wear my Dodgers stuff." So they wore their Dodgers gear and had the whole uniform on just out there just killing it. But ever since he watched that game, it's like he turned like into a little animal. Like I don't know what that game did for him. And we were just watching game seven like just normally. And it just something clicked or whatever. And he just start turning up at practice like dude like going insane or whatever. And so after he watched the game, probably about a week later, he started to come back down again or whatever, back to where he was. I'm like, "Okay, I see what's happening here, but now I know what my son is about to need." I'm like, "Okay, you want to be inspired. You know, you need inspiration. You don't need me to keep saying hit harder or keep saying, "Come on, show some aggression. You know, put your angry face on, like do something." You need inspiration. So now I know to inspire you before we go to the field. Like you want to see some players hit the ball. You want to see show, you know, do his thing. You want to watch a little baseball. you want to feel like you're there. So, I know what he needs. It's just always watching your kids like what they need the most. Um, so all your kids are going to be different. I've had to tell people that, too. Like, um, even with parents that I work with in the program, your kids are different. You might have three sons. I got one parent, like three, four sons in the program. They're all different. You cannot parent them all the same. Like, yeah, you still have your, you know, overarching principles, but inside of those, they're all different kids. So, they all need different things. He may need you to talk to him a certain way. He may need you to say this. He may need you to say that. You know, they're all different, you know. So it's very important that with your kids realize that they are not the same. You can't parent them all exactly the same. I have dad for William and dad for K2 and I have overarching dad that has the regular rules like we're going to go bathe at the same time and get up at the same time. But I understand William does not need me to talk to him like I have to talk to baby king, you know, and or or vice versa. They're all different. So you have to realize that with your kids. >> So I think a lot of this kind of come comes back to really some of my favorite things that I've seen about your work and seen the things that you're doing. It's your interaction with little kids. Okay. And so age- wise, it looks like they're between, you know, four and 12. I don't really know exactly the ages or whatever, but I see these videos of you, you'll be changing the oil on a car or you'll be doing some masonry work or something like that. I I even saw a video the other day of you, you know, doing like a hey, you get pulled over by the police. Here's kind of how how you would handle that situation. Because it was crazy like after George Floyd uh died, I I you know, people are like, "Well, you know, black families are the only families that have to have these conversations about police." I'm like, >> the first conversations I had with my parents when I turned 16, cuz they were they were separated. And both of them individually sat me down and said, "If you get pulled over, this is exactly what you do." And as much as those two hated each other, they gave me the same answer, right? You pull as far away from traffic as you can. If you can pull into a parking lot, do that. The moment you do it, put it in park, take the key out of the ignition, put it in the passenger seat, roll all your windows down. If if it's at night time, just go and put your hands on the door, right? So they can see your hands because these guys are thinking every car they walk up to could be the the last car they walk up to, right? Everything is yes, sir, no, sir. >> Don't pretend like you weren't speeding, right? Don't pretend like you didn't roll through the stop sign. Uh do you know why I pulled you over? Yep. It's probably because I was speeding, right? And and for me now as a concealed carrier, I'm like, "Sir, uh yes, I was speeding. Also, I have my concealed carry. There are this many uh guns in the vehicle. Here's where they're all located. Also, there's one on my person right now. How would you like to proceed? >> Mhm. >> You think the cop is not excited about that interaction? He's like, "Oh, thank God this guy." But anyway, you know, I want to kind of go back. So tell me what that is. Cuz it's one thing for like, you know, anecdotally, like you have a dad that's got a kid and they shoot a video or the mom shoots a video and they put it online, it goes viral, but this seems like it's like a a thing that you're you're doing and every time you say something, the kids say, "Yes, sir." And it just it's one of the most awesome like heartwarming things that as I'm scrolling through death and destruction and nonsense on Instagram, I see these videos that just they're just so life-giving. So, you know, what is all that? >> Yeah. So, it's called the X for Boys program. I started this program when I was 19 years old out of my house. Um, and it was mainly because I grew up learning how to do all these things you see me teaching. Um, but I thought other kids probably knew, you know, I I mean I wasn't outside so I didn't understand other kids didn't live like I live. Um, so when I grew up and realized kids couldn't read and realized kids couldn't, you know, work on a car or paint or weld or whatever, I decided I wanted to start teaching these things, teaching kids how to grow cars, not grow cars, but grow food, whatever. Um, and so I started teaching um, all those things and that's kind of where it grew to. Um, right now the Exor Boys program has boys ages 7 through nine. U, we started out with boys ages 11 to 17. Um, the reason that I changed my age groups is because I feel like, you know, I'm one of those people that will admit, you know, where my faults were. I felt like I wasted a lot of time um, with kids ages 11 to 17. When I say wasted time, I don't want anybody to misunderstand it. Um, I believe wholeheartly in in the kids that I was working with. Um, but with the kids that I was working with, a lot of them had lost themselves already and I was trying to get them um like kind of catch them uh when while they were falling. Versus for kids that I'm working with now, they haven't fallen or been tainted yet. They're sewhere where it's cool to do the right thing. Versus, you know, this 15-year-old that's coming, he's already in the game. He's been smoking, drinking, having sex. How do I tell him to stop having sex? How do I tell him to stop, you know, smoking weed? how do I tell them to stop drinking, etc. And um we've been successful with some of them. No, don't get me wrong. We've had many success stories with those older kids, but I realized that the bigger impact I've had has been with kids who are younger. And what made me come to that realization was we've had kids, like I said, that started ages 11 to 17. The only way kids could come in that were younger than that is if they had a brother in the program, which was older. And so I realized that my star students from the program like I just was epiphany was all the kids who started younger, they are the students now. Um the kid who's uh on my mural at the school, Bryson Pitts, Bryson is the star student. He is amazing. Um and he started a program. He was like seven or eight or whatever. But he embodies what everything that I've tried to teach. All his teachers compliment him. He says yes ma'am, no ma'am, yes sir, no sir. He walks up right. He does the right thing. He doesn't lie. Like I mean he's just a a great kid. Or even um another kid, Ken Darius. Um his brother's in the program. His brother, bless his heart. He's in college now, but he was always, you know, just one of my kids giving me trouble here and there or whatever, but love him to death. Um but his younger brother epitome of the extra boys because they watched the program as basically babies or whatever and they grew all the way through the program. And I realized like man, that's where the biggest impact is is coming from and that's what I really want. I and I enjoy working with ages 11 to 17, don't get me wrong, but I could affect more children and impact more um with ages 7 through nine. And I also have shifted my perspective too. If a kid does not want to be in our program, I give them three times to say that and okay, mama, this is not where he wants to be. Because what happens is they dilute the the lessons and the teaching for the other kids who do want to be there. Um because I end up sitting there fussing at them or punishing everybody cuz they won't stop talking or this and that. No, mama. He said he don't want to be here, you know. I mean, we've tried. We've let him do stuff with us. This ain't the program for him. I'm sorry. You know, it is what it is, you know. And that's where I've gotten. And I've also, you know, moved to like now the program has I have a full staff now. We we employ 10 people. Um, and we don't just employ, we employ and give livable wage. Like we don't pay no $10 an hour, whatever. No, you get paid really good to come work at the Expert Boy program. And the reason we do that for one is I have people that are certified in their jobs. And these people that are certified in their jobs, I pulled them from different places um in Albany, you know, that were great places that work either work with children or work with mental health or whatever, but they do their job. Not only are they doing their job right now, they love their job because they get paid to do it and they're able to affect children in one of the greatest programs uh in Georgia or whatever. So, they have a blast doing it. My video team, whatever, they really believe in what we're doing. And so the Extra Boys program now, the way they're affecting kids, like it's my ideas and my vision or whatever, but they are killing it. The percentages we got, the the data, the parent testimonials. I mean, they are destroying it. I mean, and I don't even have to be there anymore. Like, I hadn't gotten any calls by the program. I rarely get any calls because they are killing it. They they they they figure out the issues on their own. Um, I come in here and there, check on everything. I make them do a workshop here and there. But my staff, they are killing it. And I'm so proud of what we've been able to build with the program like we've been able to build uh around over half a million dollar budget from just people giving and that's come from you know proper marketing uh proper uh just reaching out to donors etc. And because we don't take government grants because of the things that we teach or whatever and I don't want anybody try and put their hands in what we're trying to teach our students but our program is doing so excellent right now and it's doing way better than I could have ever done it alone. I mean that's something I had to realize because a lot of people also uh operate in their businesses or as entrepreneurs like they are so scared to let somebody have their baby. Like I understand where you at. Yes, it is tough to find a great teacher for your kids and somebody you know you're willing to you know kind of hand them off to a little bit to help you raise them or whatever like that. But once I finally let that go like the Exra Boys program was only going to be good if I was teaching. It was only going to be good if I was doing it. Once I let that go, the program is soaring. And I am glad to say that they are doing a whole lot better job than I could ever do it by myself to the point I don't have to be there often. But when I do come, I I I am able to teach. I am able to show things. And they love to see me when I come and actually do my thing cuz I'm still the greatest at it or whatever. So when I come and like handle the kids and do things, they're like kind of in awe cuz I did it for so long. I just kind of just know how to get them together, know how to control them, know how to get them to want to learn, know how to get them to want to um do things or whatever. But I I just let them do their thing. I ask them what they need. Let them do their thing. So now I'm able to be a dad because one of the things that was going to be apparent to me, I was almost about to shut the program down at one point cuz I'm like, look, my sons are getting older now to a point where they starting to understand things and they need their dad. So at the end of the day, you know, I love the community. I love Albany, but nobody and nothing's going to come before my own children. Um, and that's where we were able to get. So now I'm able to be at baseball practices. I'm able to spend time with my sons, whatever, and then come in and out for the program and check on the kids, make sure they're doing good, because the whole goal of the program was to help kids. The goal wasn't for me to help kids. The goal is to help kids. So, however we're able to do that, that's what we're able to do now. And so, I'm grateful that we're able to employ so many people um in our hometown, give them great jobs, and also uh have a job that they actually love and love coming to every day because it's not just a job for them. They love what they do with those kids every day. It's not just they're coming because they they get paid. No, they love it. They love what they do. They just happen to be getting paid for it. And that's what we love with Exo Boy's program. So, most people um if they want to find anything about us, they go to our website and look at our videos. We've done welding. We've done fencing. We've done firearms training. Whatever. It's all been done u with our program and that's something I'm proud of. We've taken them all over the country. We've had so many kids who've never traveled outside of Albany. Like imagine we've had kids, you know, 17 years old. I mean, never have left the city limits. I mean, you in 17 years of your life have never traveled outside the city limits. You've been in this town your whole life. So, we taking them to see that buildings are big or that the ocean is big and blue or whatever. Like, they never seen this stuff or been on an airplane. Like, these experiences we have all the time, they never had like they never been on a bus ride. We took some of the kids to DC uh back in uh March, I think it was. It was March I believe. Anyway, we took them back to D, took them up to DC, went to the White House, took them all around DC, went to the museums, like let them take pictures, took them to the trampoline park. That's the first time those kids had ever been anywhere or whatever. So, they were able to to discover like, wow, there's more to the world than Albin, Georgia. Like, I it's inspiring them. And not only is it inspiring them, >> for me, it makes me want to bring things back home. Like, when I go visit places, like I've been meeting with mayors and stuff lately of different towns. And when I go visit, I'm trying to figure out what can we do to bring back to our hometown. Like what can we do to make Albany a better place cuz I'm not interested in moving anywhere else. I really want to be in my hometown. And people always ask like, "Why do you just stay here? People just a crab in the bar. All they do is talk about you and and be mean to you and say bad things about you. They just make up stuff about you all the time. Like why do you stay in Alb King?" Because I love Albany. They can talk all the trash they want to talk about me. They can make up all the things they want. They could keep saying I got some ulterior motive as if I'm going to drop a bomb on Albany or something because I'm doing all these good things or whatever. I don't care what they say. People going to talk no matter where I go. They like, "But don't you think you'd be more successful in Atlanta?" They'd accept you more up there and they'd accept you in Jacksonville. They'd accept you in Houston or whatever. I'm like, "I'm sure they would. I'm sure I could be way more successful there." But that's not what I want. I want to see the city of Albany do better. That's that is my absolute goal um from here on out. And people just going to have to understand that so they can keep making up stuff. They can keep making their little Facebook post, whatever. I don't care. I have a vision and I believe in the city of Albany wholeheartedly. >> Well, all that's just just flak. And I mean, the thing is, if you're doing something, the people I mean, you mentioned it, crabs in a bucket. [clears throat] >> The moment you start doing something, other people are like, "Wait, wait, come back down here. Be lazy. Be lame. It's like if you and all your friends are fat and then one person decides they don't want to be fat anymore. All the fat friends are like, "Hey, let's wait. We're supposed to be fat together." It's kind of like this like Macob togetherness thing. But so you described the the the program, but you know, [clears throat] there's got to be some individual stories of like an individual kid because I I think you did a good job. And guys, we'll put it in the show notes where you can check everything out and, you know, donate and do everything that you want to do, so you'll be able to check that out. Um, but I'm just curious like as you think through, >> okay, these last several years, maybe there was a specifically problem kid that at some point, you know, you you they came around or whatever. There's got to be a couple of stories like that because again [clears throat] you a lot of the stuff you're saying sounds so much like what Jeff Elbert's doing in my hometown >> and he's got both ends of of the bad story, right? And the good story. He's got kids that, you know, both both parents were clicked up, you know, he just has to go the the gang route because that's just what you do, right? You know, but then something changes in that kid. Kid gets saved radically by by Christ and then, you know, their whole trajectory changes. But then he's also had kids that he's talked to and talked to and talked to and you know where they were supposed to be responding then they get into some little battle they shoot someone kill them and now they're in prison for life. So he's kind of experienced both sides of of this thing. So I'm just curious for you some of the the stories that you kind of like take with you especially when things get hard. It's those individual anecdotes that individual person with a face and a name that know we're going to keep doing this because of this kiddo. >> Yeah. So this is one of my students uh here. His name's Montterius. Um he started with me. He was about 14 or 15, I believe. I think he's about 14. Um, but one day I was at my morning run. He sent to me at 5:00 in the morning, but he's stationed in Japan right now, but he sends me about 5:00 in the morning my time. And, um, I was standing there doing the stop signs for our, uh, cuz I had the road guard um, to make sure, you know, traffic stops, the traffic that does come through anyway. And he said, "Good morning, King. I just wanted to take a moment to thank you. Starting from June 2021, I had the opportunity to attend your summer camp, and it truly changed my life. You helped me when I was lost. She taught me things I didn't know and pushed me to build myself into a better person. Today marks one year since I joined the Navy. I'm currently stationed in Japan and I honestly feel like I wouldn't be in the position I'm in now without your guidance and example. I just wanted to thank you uh for being there for me in ways that my father couldn't. You stepped in during times when I really needed guidance and support. I'm truly thankful for everything you poured into me and I just wanted to give you your props. You've always uh you had a major impact on my life and I'll always appreciate that. Terry Bob because I used to call him his name is my ter. I used to call him Terry Bob. Like Terry Bob. Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. But um but yeah, like stories like that and I've had more stories. I remember one of my students came back to me. I've had a lot of students who left and came back after time and one of my students, I think he was about he had turned about 18 or 19 and he was working at like Wendy's or Burger King or something. He came by the building and I was outside doing something. He was like, "Hey, what going on?" He walked all the way there and I was like, "What's up, Lonzo? How you doing?" And um he was like, "I'm good, man." You know, he's just I got a lot going on. I got a baby on the way and stuff, man. You know, just I always say I said, "Well, sometimes life got to pile in the face." Remember I told y'all that. I said, "Sometimes I'm going to tell you everything I can, but sometimes life going to smack you dead in the face or whatever like that." And he was one of those, you know, situations where life had to hit him in the face. He was having a kid or whatever. And um he ended up enlisting, going to the Marines, and he is doing fantastic right now. And he was one of my problem children. All of his friends went to jail. Like one of his friends uh went to jail for like uh molestation. Another one went for aggravated assault, whatever. Like all his friends were just doing this stuff. And he was like, "I can't I can't I'm not doing that." Like he's like, "I'm not going to live like and he went and made better for himself. Got many other stories like that that truly keep pushing me to continue doing what I'm doing. And I want to see those stories happen for my sons now. Like I want my sons to to have a great story. And and cuz one thing I don't want to happen is like my sons to be failures. I would I would never forgive myself. Like so everything I can do, you know, to make my sons, you know, uh the best that they could be, um that's what I believe in. But these stories that I'm getting from these kids and not only just those stories, the parents who of these kids mean a lot to me too because we've done videos, you know, with their parents and just hearing them say like, "Man, this has changed my life." Like I remember Miss Shante, I got three of her boys, I believe. I think it's three of them. Um, but I think I have three of her boys, but she also comes to the morning runs. She won the Biggest Loser challenge. You know, she was, you know, overweight and things like that. She won the biggest loser challenge. she's slimmed down so much and she was like, "Man, like the way my children are doing better at home, like just in their discipline and their respect or whatever and now I'm able to come lose weight and whatever." She was like, "This whole thing is just King is like changing our lives like and this means a lot." And so that going back to what I was saying earlier is why I needed to clean up my own self personally because there are people out there who are changing their lives because of the thought of me. And so if I were to fall or were to to falter or anything were to happen, all of these people who've started wanting to parent their sons and all these people who start wanting to lose weight or all these kids who've been looking up to me or all these people who've been, you know, uh, just standing behind me or defending me or whatever. And if I were to fall because of stupid things or whatever, I would again I would never forgive myself because these people literally have been truly living their lives because they watched how I've been living mine, you know. So, I want them to see true righteousness, you know, and see Christ because there's times and I wanted to get into my Christian walk because I grew up in the church. Um, my grandmother um was a minister and my grandmother, she she know I'll tell her this so she ain't going to get mad, but my grandma made me hate church. Um because everything at church we were forced to do. Like we had we were forced to pray. We had to go to the altar and like call on Jesus like over and over again. And like she would make us like sit get on our knees in at the altar and like just scream Jesus like for hours at a time. Like um we were forced to pray. We were forced to sing. We were forced to praise dance. Like we had to do it all. We didn't have a choice. If we go visit churches, we had to give a testimony at testimony service. Like it she made us do it all. So I was grateful when I started playing the drums. Um because I started playing the drums my whole life and that was my way of getting away from that side of church. And so as an adult I hate to pray. like I hated to pray because it it seemed annoying and weird to me because of how I grew up being forced to pray all the time or being forced to read the Bible or forced to do all this stuff. So, my Christian walk has been different. Like, I've been trying to train myself to like like praying again and and like reading the Bible and like trying to have a relationship with God that's not forced or whatever. And so, I just had to make myself come to the realization of that uh as an adult. And it's funny because about uh five days ago, my grandmother called me and um she said, "Can you pray with me for 21 days, you know, or whatever. I'm going to 21 day prayer thing and me and my grandmother haven't had like the best relationship of our lives because me and my grandmother are just alike and we argue and get into it so much or whatever. And we haven't been the best to each other. My grandmother the best person in the world. Neither am I." Or whatever. We've both done our things. But she prayed and when she got finished, she said, "Look," and she' never done this before. He said, "I apologize for anything and everything I've ever done, you know, wrong to hurt you." She said, "I'm always on your side. I'm always behind you. I'm always going to pray for you." She said, "I don't always get it right or whatever, but I want you to know that I apologize and I need you to forgive me for all that stuff." And that released a lot for me. I didn't realize what that would do cuz I didn't think like an apology really meant nothing, but that meant something to me because she always was right. You can't never tell grandma nothing. You try to explain stuff to her. You try to tell her your side, she don't want to hear it. It's all what she says. and her version of Christianity is the one. So if she does something wrong and you try to say call her out about it, nope. And she'll try to make it right or whatever. Like that's how she was or whatever. So that has helped me with my relationship with God too because that was the person that made me hate religion in general. Not saying that I hated God or nothing like that. I believed in God, believed in faith, but I was just like, look, I'm not praying. I'm just going to act on everything I believe. I believe in big boy faith, which is on my shirt. I believe in that. So I'm just going to act on I don't need to pray. I'm just go out here and pray with my feet. I don't need to go to church. I'm just going to go out here and do it, you know? I don't Well, I need to read the Bible. Like, that's that's where I was cuz I hated it. Um, and that's what made me hate it growing up. Like, the the whole forcing of it all. And that's a conversation I've wanted to have, too, because a lot of PKs feel like that. Like, I call them preachers kids. A lot of them feel like that because they were forced to have to be a deacon and forced to have to do devotion and forced to, you know, go do this and be on this ministry and that ministry because you was a preachers's kid. So, you had to do it. And so a lot of preks, if you think about it, a lot of them have failed lives because of how they were treated in church growing up or whatever. And so that's where I failed. And also what happened to me, you know, when I was a kid, like when I was four, um, I was I think I told you I was molested or whatever. And we weren't like having like it wasn't like, oh, she just touched me. Like we had like full-blown intercourse all the time. And I didn't know, like I said, that it was just wrong cuz it didn't like hurt or nothing like that. So when I went to um I I I went to their house or whatever like that um a family friend's house and I thought, you know, I kept wanting to go cuz I'm like I'm having a great time. I'm I'm They like you everything good? You had fun? Like yeah, I had a great time over there. I'm like wanting to go back like yeah, I'm going back every single time over this is a grown woman by the way. And also to add a lot of men, most men that I know, and this is in my personal life, most men that I know lost their virginity as kids to grown women or whatever. And so then we don't realize how that plays into sexual addiction, you know, as an adult cuz you had that experience so early. Like you don't realize what that does to your psyche or whatever. So that happened and um it messed up a lot. And so that happened and I did not want to face it or whatever. I knew what it was. I knew it was an addiction. I've always known it was an addiction, but I didn't want to face it. Like I just kept running away from it. So, I kept like kind of running away from my grandma and running away from church and running away from anything that had something to do with religion. For one, I hated it and for two, uh I didn't want to loose myself from what was holding me or whatever. So, that's like been my Christian walk now. And it's like, okay, let me let me train myself to love prayer again and love having a relationship with God again because I was missing that. And the people around me need to see that. I lead so many people. I lead my staff. I lead my kids. I lead my brother, whatever. These people are looking to me and I'm watching their lives fall and I know that if I just were to lead, everything would fall into place for everybody else because they are watching me. And I text him. I hadn't talked to my brother in a while. I kind of been avoiding him too because my brother I I raised him from he was about 12 years old. I raised my brother and I was living a righteous life when I first started raising him. I was doing good, you know, I I was married. I was doing the right thing and then I fell again and he was right there with me when I fell and he watched everything. He watched all the arguments, all the the cheating. I was flying him places with me with different chicks or whatever like that. He watched all of that. And I know even though he was my brother, he almost kind of lost a bit of respect because he saw me here. My brother used to look at me like I was like God almost. He always looked up to me. And when I started to fall or whatever, he started to fall. when he moved back with his mom, he started smoking, whatever. Like, he was just just falling off the rails. He was going to school under the influence. My brother was a straight A student. He was like the the number one trombone in the band or whatever. And his band teacher calling me like, "Hey, I don't know what's going on with him. He's just I don't know what he got going. I don't know if he even going to graduate. Like, he I don't know what he's got going on." But I tried to blame it on him trying to find himself. No, I was not leading him. I was living a terrible life on my own. And I just texted him the other day because I was avoiding him. Like I'm just like whatever. Q is just gonna hopefully he remembers what I taught him. But no, I text I said Q are you okay? I just text are you okay? I had a dream. I said, "Are you okay?" He was like, "Bro, I'm not okay." And I'm going through some issues. I need you. Like we hadn't even talked for like, you know, we talked here and there, you know, every blue moon. I say, "Hey, how you doing?" or whatever. But we used to have a relationship like this. And I'm like, "Bro, I'll be there Friday and we going to have this conversation and I'm going to apologize for everything that you saw, whatever, but we both about to maneuver in a different direction. you grown now. You 20 years old. We about to go take some stuff over. We was been supposed to do all this stuff together. We about to go do it now. Like that's what we about to go do. We going to clean our lives up. We going to do this thing and we going to make make this stuff happen. But that stuff we got to be, you know, uh, honest about. And even for guys watching, they know what I'm talking about because a lot of them have lived the same way. It may not be their brother or their mom, but it may be somebody in their lives that they know is fallen because you could have been leading them and you were responsible for that. And sometimes you you kind of get that charge. We had this old song in the Baptist church called A Charge to Keep and A God to Glorify. And um that was a old black Baptist song that we used to sing, but we used to sing it all the time, but we I didn't understand like what the lyrics meant. It was like a charge to keep that I have and there's a God that I have to glorify and to serve um this present age. And I didn't understand what that meant until I became an adult. I'm like, "Oh, I have a charge to keep. Like, I have something I'm here to do and I have to do it to to glorify God." And so if we don't do that, you fall. you you fall. And when you're falling, life actually seems normal. Like it doesn't seem tough. Like life is just chill. Life gets tough when you're trying to be righteous again because that's when all the temptations come. Now, now that's when the enemy comes in. Now that's when you start losing people, whatever. Cuz while I was falling and the girl I was with, she kept forgiving me and forgiving me and forgiving me and forgiving me. And I'm like, "Okay, let me clean my life up." And now she like, "Yeah, I can't do this." and you like, I'm trying to do it right now. Like, I'm I want to do it. I'm trying to do this thing correctly and whatever. Like, you want to leave now? Like, I'm trying to do what you need for me. I'm trying to give you what you want. It's too late. Sorry, dude. You know, it is what it is. But those are the moments where you could say, you know what? I'm just going to go back to what I was doing. I'm going to go pick all my old girls back up and I'm going to go text. I'm just going to fall back into where I was cuz I was trying to do it right for this reason. No, no, no, no, no, no. Everything happens for a reason. Those things like that happening are the temptation. You losing those people that you love so much, that's the temptation for you to go back to doing what you're doing. So, I had to sit in that for a second like, you know what, it hurts. It is what it is. We got to keep moving. No, we have to stick to our guns and what we're doing. People fall, people come, people go. You got to keep moving. And as long as you doing the right thing by God, God's going to guide you in the right path. But the temptation is going to come. Somebody's going to come with that apple from the forbidden tree and you cannot eat it. You cannot eat the forbidden fruit. You got to keep moving. I as tempting as it gets. And that's how it goes in the Christian walk. It's hard to to do the right thing. It is. >> Well, and it's like, okay, what do you mean by do the right thing and what is the motivation for the right thing? Cuz there are guys out there right now that are not looking at porn, not masturbating because they're afraid of what their wife will do or say if she finds it again, right? >> Cuz it's typically [clears throat] an again situation. >> You know, the guys that are avoiding whatever temptation it is. So maybe maybe they've had problems with alcohol before and so they're avoiding alcohol. Why? Oh, because their wife would get mad, right, if they drank it. And so it's like, well, what is the actual motivation? Is it are you doing it for righteousness sake, >> right? >> Or are you doing it to seem righteous? Because if you're doing it to >> do something righteous because that's what God God has called you to do. That's different than I'm pious and I'm a whitewashed tomb and actually I'm only doing this so y'all will think I'm cool or that y'all will think I'm holy. But, you know, if nobody was around and there were no consequences, I just go right back to doing the same thing. And I've had to, you know, think about that myself cuz, you know, with the porn and masturbation stuff from back in the day, it's like, wait, why am I doing this? Am I doing this because, you know, I I want to serve God? Am I doing this because I'm afraid of my wife's reaction? Am I doing this because, hey, and then, you know, I stopped this well before I had kids because I don't want to pass on a generational sin. Is that why I'm doing it? Am I doing it so that I could say it on the podcast >> so I could say, "Ah, you know, I'm doing this or like what is the the heart motivation behind something?" So I mean I'm even curious for you because you found yourself at a bit of a spiritual crossroads to where it's like okay we can just keep doing the Christian ease thing where so so I call it this so um I I told you I had two vocal cord surgeries right and so in between vocal cord surgeries I couldn't talk above a whisper you know here we were thinking I'm a professional speaker and podcaster and all a sudden I can't talk anymore like my career's over what am I going to do like what job can you have where you can make a good living and not talk um and but you know we're we're on the recovery but as I was recovering from my second vocal cords surgery. I just had the same concept that I was rolling around in my brain because in Oklahoma, >> people think that, okay, uh, well, I went to church when I was a kid. I got baptized. I believe in God. Uh, when I vote, I vote Republican and I listen to country music and God's just pro all that stuff. So, I get to go to heaven, right? I call it country music theology. >> And so, because you hear these country music songs, it's all this stuff about the man upstairs and man, I experience God out in nature and I blah blah. And it's all that. It's like, all that's fine and good, but that's not the gospel, right? That's not you putting your faith, transferring it from yourself for your own righteousness and salvation to the foot of the cross and transferring it to Jesus and saying like, "Not me, but you kind of a thing, right?" >> But we all get to this point where we have the spiritual crossroads where it's like "Okay >> I can fall away or just keep doing the Christianes thing or I can be serious and I can really start doing it. It's not because I want my girl back and it's not because, you know, I want my kids to respect me. It's not because I need the guys in the community to think I'm righteous or whatever. So, for you, you obviously went to the latter path and you're >> you got to do it. You got to do it for yourself and you have to do it by yourself. Like, yeah, >> I had to empty my house. Nobody's there. Like, I have to do this. Like even just for those moments when you by yourself when I mean what could this hurt? I even had like for example, I know for a fact there are chicks I could call, nobody would ever find out. They've never been a problem, whatever. I could call them and and do whatever and nobody ever find out. Never be a problem. Whatever. It's just for me. It's a problem for me. Like, no, I cannot do that. As easy as it is, as easy as to call them and go get whatever, do whatever. What? I can't do it. And so, that's was the thing like nobody's ever going to find about this. I mean what? Why not? You know what's a little porn going to hurt, right? No, I can't do any. I mean, do I should masturbate cuz that way I won't go. No, don't. Just go to bed. And so I also realized about going to sleep at 9:00. I always had this rule for the women in my life that they cannot go outside after the street lights come on because after the street lights is is terror. That's it. I believe after the street lights come on. If you do not have an absolute emergency reason to be outside, there's no reason to be out there. If my kids mom's like, "Hey, I'm about to go to the store. I really need to get something." No, you don't. I'll get up out of my bed and go get it because why do you You're only 97 pounds. My kids are, you know, bigger than you just about and they're only six and four. What could you do if some No, I don't care what you I will go get it if it can't wait till in the morning. I will get up out of my bed and drive 20 minutes to go do whatever you need me to do and I will drop it off because that's not happening because I just I'm scared of that. In the same vein, I realized when I started going to sleep at 9:00 or whatever, I'm just like, okay, you know, going to sleep. But when I start staying up past 9ine and then yeah, the little urges start coming and then you start scrolling and then you start touching, you know, man, might want to text your old girl and see what she doing tonight, you know, whatever like that. Like no, go to bed, go to sleep like 9:00, lights out. And I mean lights out, no TV, no nothing, phone down, sleep like that's it. And so when you keep yourself busy during the day or working out or whatever like that, you you're going to go to sleep, you're going to be tired. And so you should spend so much time, like I said, we talked yesterday becoming dangerous or whatever. If you spend time becoming, you have so much time to become dangerous as a man. And when I say dangerous, you need to always be able to protect your kids, protect yourself, protect those you love around you. Because I'm not comfortable, like we talked about yesterday, we both have little scenarios for ourselves. For me, my scenario when I'm working out is trying to get through my reps. If I'm getting if I get in a car accident and the the door is like slammed shut and I can't open it and the car catches on fire, if I'm not strong enough to pry that door open and I got to watch my sons burn alive, man, I would lose myself. Like you would never be a I I would get in there with him. I just burn up too. Like it was it's not happening or whatever. But you don't want to ever be in those positions. Or like there's some position like where you might have to fight for your kids' lives or something like somebody breaks in and you like might be too far from your gun and you got to fight with your hands like and they kill you or something or like they beat you so bad you can't do anything and you have to watch them like hurt your kid that that would ruin you or whatever. And I truly think about stuff like that especially like with just becoming like more like celebrity like or famous like people don't like you. People will find you. People will find out where you stay. I had a situation the other day like somebody found out where like where my house is like about roundabout where I stay. I'm just like, "Dude, like, how what are y'all doing or whatever." So, I'm even more particular about the place I'm about to move to cuz I'm like, "Look, nobody's going to find this place." And I mean it or whatever. Like, I'm not even getting no packages here. I got a PO box. Everything that comes to this house is going to be under another name. If if somebody has to come do some house work, my best friend will come and he'll man that house, but I'm not going to be here cuz I'm in a small town or whatever. And anybody could find that stuff or whatever. So, it's I'm very particular about that. Um, but you want to become dangerous. So, shooting, learning how to shoot cuz I used to shoot all the time. I hadn't shot in years. I got weapons or whatever, but hadn't shot my weapons in years or whatever cuz I'm just doing whatever else. I was in jiu-jitsu for a little while. Got out of that. I had been boxing like consistently. Got out of that. Like, I was working out consistently. Got out of that. But I got all this time to go see chicks and and deal with them or whatever like that. And yeah, uh-uh. Like, I'm going you're going to lose yourself. And that's what I ended up doing. I got frail again. Got super skinny. And you don't like it cuz I'm looking at my picture. I'm like, "Dang, I'm like, I need to eat some food or something. Like, I look like a freaking stick or whatever, you know, and you don't like that, you know, and you'll say you don't like it, but you won't do anything to actually fix it." So, the things that I want to see happen, I know I have to do alone. So, the people that have maybe dropped off in my life or left, you know, from being around or whatever, that needed to happen because I need to do this alone and not to try and and and find nobody or get anybody whatever. No, it needs to happen by myself in in the confines of my own home or whatever. and truly mean it. Like sit home and like, "No, we not going to masturbate. We're not watching no porn. We not even I'm not even watching nothing on TV that even get me there or whatever." Like I like to watch wrestling, but I'm like, "Man, I probably going to watch wrestling for a while cuz they got the girls on there." And I know I know how they dress the girl. They dress the girls in a sexually provocative way so that way they could get the views or the girls dress themselves like that and, you know, make sure their boobs are sitting up and make sure the makeup's perfect and make sure it's just enough, you know, whatever. So the guys want to watch it because to be honest, they don't wrestle that well or whatever. So, but you watch it, you know, or whatever because you want to see them, you know, move around and stuff like that. So, I've changed my mind about that type of stuff because I don't want to think like that. I don't want to live like that. I'm just like, no, let's maneuver our thinking. And once I control that, I've told people, I said, man, people think that I'm really cool and I do a lot of great things in my hometown. And I do do a lot of great things, but you have not seen me at my fullest potential. This is nothing. After I've discovered that that was only practice, you haven't seen my prime yet. So I'm like, man, all the people that have been talking about me and saying things and yall have not seen King Randle 2.0 cuz now I'm about to completely lock all the way in with God first. And with God first going to be unstoppable every time. >> Well, and King, everything in your life that is undisiplined is a drag on you. Right. Right. >> And so because everyone's, you know, seen something or maybe you understand physics or whatever, but it's like everything that's a drag on you keeps you from being faster or, you know, you're less aerodynamic or anything like that. Right. And so so many people in life, they want to talk about motivation. >> And this is one of my bugaboos. It's one of the pillars of my Dominion program that you and I have talked about a little bit. Yeah. And so because we're we're in Dominion season right now. We've got guys signing up for interviews. We got interviews coming up in December. And you know, you know, we've had so many guys from all over the country go through this. But one of the things I tell these guys is like motivation is fine. >> Discipline's way better because there are people that will get their phones out when they wake up in the morning. They scroll and they want to see if Jaco Willink has posted a picture of his watch at 4:30 in the morning. They want to see the last thing that David Gogggins said that, you know, who's going to carry the boats? They want to make sure Cam Haynes ran a marathon today. And they're they're or they're looking for a an inspirational quote from their favorite pastor or, you know, something like that. And if they don't get the little dopamine hit, they're like, >> I don't I'm not feeling it today. >> Right. And so, man, I remember back in the day when Dustin Porier, this was uh before he fought Connor, UFC fighter, 155. He uh they were talking about wearables, right? So, like, you know, whoop straps and different things like that. >> And you know, Joe Rogan's like, "Hey, do you wear this stuff?" And he's like, "Yeah, I used to." And then I just kind of fell away from it. He's like, "Well, why is that?" He's like, "Cuz am I going to let my watch tell me if I'm going to work out today?" Right? >> Because I'll tell you what, I've got this fancy watch. I feel blessed to have it. And now there's a thing on here called body battery. Mhm. >> And so there is a particular I forget what the number is via Garmin, but if you wake up and your body battery is below, that's like your the amount that you've charged, recovering, sleeping. If it's below whatever this number is, you've got to take the day off. >> Mhm. >> I don't pay attention to that number. Like I I disconnected that part in my app because I was looking in the morning. I was looking at my app seeing what my like what my body battery was at. It's like whoa whoa whoa whoa. That that can't tell me. I'm not going to let some robot, some algorithm tell me whether or not I'm going to get after it today. Like, I'm going to listen to my body, right? But so many people are just waiting on that motivation to strike them to do the dad stuff they know they're supposed to do, to do the personal discipline stuff, to to put that, you know, anti- porn software on on their on their thing, to seek out those relationship with Foxhole Brothers, to go back to church, to be motivated to say I'm sorry to that person and ask for their forgiveness and to repent of their lifestyle. It's like guys, what does that do for you, right? >> Sitting around waiting for mo motivation to strike you because [clears throat] it's the discipline, man, that will prevail because on the days when you don't feel like it or the days that you're going to do it twice. And I really think that that's something especially as we're trying to build these young men into grown men that are good for the society around them. It's like, boys, motivation's fine. If you get a little shot of it, that's great. But it's the disciplined man that's going to succeed >> every time. Every single time. when I think for for you with with where you're going, where do you see the I mean, you mentioned King 2.0. You said that a little bit tongue and cheek, but okay, you can see over the last few years because you start this organization when you're 19, right? So, you've had kind of this local public uh persona, right? Or uh profile rather, and then you've got, you know, a national profile. You've been on with Tim P. You've been on with Shawn Ryan. You're doing this show now. Like I think that you know you've had a lot that's happened to you and you've had a lot of eyeballs focus in on you over these last few years, but you see where you're at now. You understand imposttor syndrome. We all have it to where we don't feel like we're we're where we should be and we just don't want anyone to find out. But as you look forward into the future, like what does that hold for you? Um I know that's a bit of a dubious question because even when I look at Undaunted Life, like two years ago, the forging table wasn't a thing. A year ago, Dominion wasn't a thing. We launched a new podcast this year called the Daily Blade. That wasn't a thing. So, if three years ago you had asked me what my three to five year plan was going to be, it wouldn't have included any of those things and those have been revolutionary for the business, for my family, for our ministry and all that. But if you were to surmise kind of where you're going, like what does that look like? Is there another hill you're looking to climb? Is it just maintenance of the the amazing things that you're doing now? Um, yeah, definitely maintenance of those things in the city of Albany, but I've never fully operated in uh I guess correctness. Um, I've never operated in a in a way where I was completely doing the right thing or completely being righteous. I don't know what that looks like myself. Um, I know that what my purpose has been already has been a cool thing, but I even need to see where I'm going to go at that point. I need to see what ideas I'm going to come up with or what's next. Um, I honestly don't know. Um, because I'm just getting to this point in my life where I'm truly trying to live a righteous lifestyle. So, I don't know. I really don't. I'm I'm going to let God um kind of guide me there. I I mean, like I said, I want the program to grow. You know, I want to do some renovations or whatever like that. I would love to to see the movement grow. I still want to do like some great promotion for our hometown. That's always been my goal. But like the bigger things, I'm not sure yet. Um, even where we are now, didn't think we'd be here, definitely. But and even then, like you said, I I don't feel like where we we are where we need to be. Um but to see what I'm about to do, I don't know. But I always know it's always something cool because every time something super bad happens to me, something super great happens right on the other end of it. So, who knows? I'm not particularly sure what's next. Um but I'm excited to see what God has next for me. >> Well, and the thing is is you're you're trying to tether to the right rocks. And so there are people that want to tether their rock to to their own personal discipline, but then that's it, right? which is good, but you know, not overall good. You have people that want to tether to their to their family of origin, the people that want to tether to some sort of identity marker they've got for themselves. But when you try to attach yourself to God and what is God wanting to say to me, you know, I've heard it. I'm probably going to mess up the quote, but it's like, okay, if you want to hear God speak to you, read the Bible. And if you want to hear God audibly speak to you, read the Bible out loud. Right? And so when you let the word of God that endures, when you let the enduring word of God guide your steps, um it's going to be better for you overall because we go back to the psalm where it says the word is a lamp unto our feet. Well, we don't want the lamp. We want the flood light, right? And that would be mega convenient, right? If we could just flood light and see the next 20 steps of our life and all that. But the more and more because I'm, you know, I'm 39, so I'm, you know, a decent chunk uh older than you, you know, as as your big brother, this is what I would tell you. is if God showed me when I was your age what would happen between now and then it would have crushed me >> because you know that was when you know ego was was running wild there you know I wasn't really in the sanctification process I wasn't being discipled by anybody I would have not been able to handle the vision that God would have given for me much less the direction right >> and so I think that that's one of the important things is >> when I when people ask me about undaunted and they say Kyle what's the long-term vision of Undaunted something. I think of two things. I say, number one, I think God looks at our 3 to 5 year plan and just laughs. >> Mhm. >> He's like, "Wait a minute. You don't you don't think you're going to get sick? You don't think something's going to happen to one of your kids? You don't think someone's going to betray you? You don't think you know you're going to say something bad in public and then have to pay for it?" It's like that is so precious. Like you, man, if you could see what I see. But then that comes to the second thing that I tell people is like my job with Undaunted Life is to take the next right step, >> right? >> And I don't know what that is. So look at the Daily Blade. I was looking around for a daily devotional podcast for men, like actual dudes, like men men. And everything I was finding was kind of breathy and music in the background and really productiony. And it was like, man, I a dude on the way to the job site doesn't want to hear this. A dude on the way to the construction job or on the way to the gym, he doesn't want to hear something like this, >> right? So the next right step was to think about, well, is this something that we could do? >> Okay. And then it was to talk to, you know, my partner in ministry, Joby Martin. Hey, is this something that you and I should do? Okay. Well, yeah. Well, shoot. What's the next right step? Okay, we'll come up with a name that's not stupid. Okay, the Daily Blade. Oh, shoot. Well, now we got to record this thing. And you see what I'm saying? You just whatever the next right step is. And so, if you think in those terms, not God, tell me where I'm going to be when I'm 60. It's like, God, tell me where I'm going to be in the next 60 minutes. Is there something I can do now that's going to put me more in your will than I was before? >> Right. >> So, that's probably the best apologetic I give. But, but man, I'm just I'm thrilled to to know you as a friend. I'm thrilled to have you out here and your videographer that's over there like hanging out. He he was quiet the whole time. I was shocked. Yeah. I don't know why he's not talking very much. But, shout out to Tut. >> That's Tut anyway, man. Tut don't talk a whole lot, man. Tut usually quiet. Um, it probably take me to make Tut talk. Like, it it was funny cuz Tut don't Tut don't even realize he he doesn't talk much until this one time we was on the way to Atlanta. He talked a whole two hours and even realized. >> Hey. Okay. So, [laughter] it's possible. It is possible. Hey, I grew up with these >> I grew up with these twin brothers, the Henry brothers. They both on different teams, their nickname was mute because they wouldn't say anything, right? But then when you get them like, you know, just you and them and then, you know, they start to open up quite a bit. But man, where can everybody uh find you? Again, we'll try to put all this in the show notes, but if people want to support you and just follow along, where can everybody find what what you're doing? >> Our social medias all are new emerging king and then um our website is the extraboy.org. org. That's t h e x f o r b o ys.org. Everything you want to find, it's all there. It's all there on the website. >> Well, very good. Well, man, thank you for spending time with here uh with us here at this table. And uh let's get you off to the airport. >> Yes, sir. Thanks for having me, man. >> Thank you for listening to this podcast. Wherever you're listening to this, please subscribe, rate, and leave us a positive five-star review. If you want me to come speak live at your event or on your podcast, just shoot me an email to info@undanton.life. That's info@undanton.life. Follow us on Instagram and like us on Facebook. and check out our website for everything else, including how to donate to keep more content like this coming your way. Just go to www.undauntton.life. And as always, we want to thank the band Holy Name for allowing us to use their music for our content. The music on this podcast is their song Perpetual, which is off their self-titled debut album on Faceown Records. The links are in the description. I'm your host, Kyle Thompson. Remember, keep pushing back darkness. Keep forging spiritual, mental, and physical resilience. Keep seeking the Lion of Judah. >> [music] [music]