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- This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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Our guys today got a special guest on the podcast.
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His name is Kevin Sorbo.
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So he is an actor and he's best known for his role
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as Hercules in the TV series Hercules,
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the legendary journeys and as Captain Dylan Hunt
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in Andromeda and he's also starred in movies
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like God's Not Dead and Let There Be Light
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and What If and a bunch of other stuff.
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But guys, this was such a fun conversation
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because we were talking off air.
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We didn't really have a whole lot of time today.
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So we're definitely gonna have him back on in the future
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to talk about some more stuff,
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but we kind of had limited time to get this in.
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But we started with a lot of politics
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'cause if you don't know, he is an outspoken Christian
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conservative and that has had a tremendous impact
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impact negatively on his career.
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And we talked about that in the show,
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but he's talked a lot about the stuff
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that's currently going on in our country.
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So that's where we started.
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We talked about with the DOJ and the FBI
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apparently targeting former President Trump
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and other Americans and things like that.
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We talked about what's going on in culture
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and we kind of bounced around a lot.
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We did talk about his acting career
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'cause obviously we needed to talk about Hercules
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and some of the movies he's been in.
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And we talked about how a lot of the Christian films
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that we see produced today are so much better
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than Christian films back in the day
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and how it's kind of turning the overall narrative
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in terms of Christian filmmaking.
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We talked about truth.
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We talked about narrative.
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We talked about some near misses he had in his career early on
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that he thought at the time were the worst days of his life,
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but it only opened the door later,
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got at something else planned for him in his career.
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We talked about some stuff he's got coming up.
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He's got a Western that he's gonna be filming
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in my home state here of Oklahoma.
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And he may or may not have invited me
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to be a bad guy on the show and kill me off early on.
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And I'm fine with that.
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I'm gonna have to grow my beard out
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and let it get a little bit more nasty,
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but we can certainly make that happen.
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But guys, we talked about so much,
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but there was an interesting question I asked him
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at the very, very end.
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And it was if he could only leave one piece of art
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that he's ever made, right?
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So one character in a movie or one character
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in a TV series or something like that.
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If he could leave one thing for humanity,
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what would it be and why?
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And I think his answer is gonna be very, very interesting
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to you.
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All right, guys, I've kept Kevin Sorbo from you long enough.
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So without further ado, let's get into it.
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Kevin Sorbo, welcome to Undaunted Life of Man's podcast.
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Hey, it's good to be here.
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Good to see you, man.
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I'm so happy to see you.
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You know, we actually met a while ago.
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We talked about it off there,
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but we got to share a table
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at a very awesome folds of honor event up there in Tulsa.
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So we'll make sure that we can make that happen again
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here in the near future.
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Now we don't have all the time in the world today.
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And as I told you all fair,
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everyone asks you all the same questions, right?
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So they want to talk about how you got into acting.
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Was it cold growing up in Minnesota?
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You know, what was it like in your big break in television?
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And, you know, if we have some time, we'll get to all that.
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But we were talking a little bit off air
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that we feel like potentially we're at an inflection point
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in our country.
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So obviously as of the recording of this two days ago,
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the FBI raided Donald Trump's personal residence
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in Mar-a-Lago.
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We saw last Sunday what the US Senate did
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in terms of voting to add all these new IRS agents,
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even though they can't really find time
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to add new agents for the border or anything like that.
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It feels like we're an inflection point for conservatism.
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And so for you, obviously I could start with generically,
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you know, why does conservatism jive with you?
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But let's talk a little bit about kind of where we're at
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in the country.
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And look at you.
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- There's me golf with Trump right there, buddy.
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- Right. So if you're just listening to this,
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he showed me a picture of him at a golf tournament
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with Trump.
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Now, is that after a hole in one or something?
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'Cause you look really happy.
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- You know what, no, he got a hole in one there
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about a couple months after this was taken.
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And then I got one and he sent me the video.
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And I got one three weeks later, my eighth one,
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I sent him the video.
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- Okay, there you go.
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Well, let's get into it.
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- I trumped Trump.
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- Yeah, that's right.
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So let's talk about that.
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Let's talk about what's going on with Trump.
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Let's talk about kind of the targeting of conservatism.
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Go.
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- Oh yeah, they're gonna come up to you.
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They're gonna come up to me.
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I mean, 87,000, we're talking billions of dollars
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of taxpayer money going to bring more of these bows those in.
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The IRS does nothing to make America a better country.
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It does nothing.
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Their job is to be paid by us to come after us.
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And it's just insane.
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I've always wanted to abolish the IRS
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'cause I think it's absolutely insane and ridiculous.
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But the battle is on, it's unbelievable to me of the FBI.
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I mean, everything must be being paid off.
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So much money to do this.
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It's just shocking to me how corrupt the FBI is.
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They were all certainly part of January 6th.
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This is not some weird theory going on out there.
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It's so crazy to think that Hillary Clinton
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burns 33,000 emails when she was ordered
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to turn those emails over.
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And nothing happens to her.
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Nothing happens to her.
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It's this is a first in the country.
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But when even when Trump was president,
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every single day the press went after him.
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No presidents had to put up with that.
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Every single day they went after that guy.
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And I don't know, it's sad to see
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where the country's going right now.
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It's not getting, the only place that's getting better at
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is that COVID woke a lot of people up.
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I saw that the government loves using fear as a weapon
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and fear is an amazing weapon.
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'Cause I fly a lot and I still see, you know,
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90% of the people on planes right now don't wear a mask.
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It shows the majority of people
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are sick of this stupid mask mandate
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'cause masks do squat.
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They do absolutely nothing.
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And, but you still got these people,
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it's easier to pick up the liberals now
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in airplanes, that's for sure.
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But these people are wearing, I was on a plane yesterday,
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a guy had a mask on and a shield.
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And I'm going, you've got to freaking be kidding me.
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I mean, if this, it looks like maybe 25 years old,
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this guy, so I thought, okay,
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maybe he's got preexisting conditions or something.
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But I don't know, we live in strange times right now.
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We got a battle on our hands
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and we got to keep fighting it from all sides.
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And people are starting to wake up, but don't be afraid.
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I figured we can't wake up, you know, the sheep are the sheep.
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I'm here to wake up the lions like you.
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You know, you're already fighting to fight them.
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We need more lions like you.
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LinkedIn is pretty great at a lot of things,
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like helping you tap into the latest trends
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and insights in your field.
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We cannot stop your co-worker from tapping her pencil.
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LinkedIn can help you find new jobs
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We cannot help you find the source
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of that weird smell in the office fridge.
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Yeah.
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from bringing their hobbies into the office,
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Well, I appreciate that.
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The thing that's interesting about it is,
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yet a tweet I believe was from yesterday,
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it says the government is the enemy of the people.
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Now, in 2019, that would have been considered
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to be a fairly extreme statement,
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especially coming from somebody that's all on the right.
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You know, we're in this third straight year
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of tremendous growth in our economy.
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You know, everybody was really happy
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with what was going on in their bank accounts and at work.
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And they could have done without some of the mean tweets,
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but aside from that, if you can get over that,
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your life is pretty good.
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And then 2020 hit and then we've been in this kind of milieu
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of these last couple of years.
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I'm not really even understanding who we are,
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but it does feel that way to a degree
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that the government is the enemy of the people,
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but it's one thing to have an enemy that is docile
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and not attacking you.
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And it's another thing when the enemy is coming after you
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and 87,000 IRS agents, like that's bigger
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than the stadium that the OU Sooners play in here
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in my home state.
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That is more agents than you can fit people
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in an enormous college football stadium.
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So for you and kind of what you've seen
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and kind of growing up in conservatism
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and kind of seeing the different factions of that,
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whether it be Reagan or George W or, you know, Donald Trump,
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how does that feel to you, to look at your government
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and be like, man, I just, I don't know if I can trust
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anything that you're saying to me.
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- Well, you know, I'm not going to say it word for word,
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but one of my favorite quotes from Ronald Reagan was
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the greatest words to fear are high.
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I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
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- Sure.
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- I mean, you have to have that back in the early 80s.
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It has only just gotten worse right now.
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It starts with a public education system as well.
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It's, you know, as early as pre-kindergarten, you know,
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what they've been doing in our schools.
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I never had that when I was going to school.
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When I was going to school, teachers taught
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what they were supposed to teach.
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It was as simple as that.
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They didn't tell me to vote.
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They didn't tell me to believe in God
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or not believe in God.
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There was nothing like that.
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They taught their math and biology and science
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and that's just the way it was.
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Why all these teachers now through this indoctrination
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has been going on certainly over the last 30 years.
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That's all they want to talk about right now.
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And it's just, it's just, it's sad to me,
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but we have it, we do have a fight in our hands.
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I think one of the blessings of COVID,
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not only waking people up overall with the government's team,
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but waking up with the school system's doing.
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And now we have 2 million more kids being homeschooled,
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which is great.
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We're homeschool advocates.
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My wife speaks across the country on it.
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Please go to sorbostudios.com, sorbostudios.com
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and check that out.
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And I fight my way against Hollywood.
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You know, they're putting out movies
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that create divisiveness and anger
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and hate and violence and sex.
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I'm trying to do movies that made me fall in love
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and want to be an actor in the first place.
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Movies that have a good message
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about hope and redemption and love and faith and laughter
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and forgiveness and all those things
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that is certainly missing in today's movies
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and television shows that Hollywood wants to put out there.
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They would never do a Hercules today.
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Right.
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When I shot that series from 1993 to 2000,
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I didn't write their series.
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It was Universal Studios, the people that are hired there.
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And they actually put in moral messages.
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You wouldn't see them today shows.
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They would make Hercules a whole different thing
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that maybe make him a transgender, I don't know,
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but they would change the whole thing with them now.
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And you're like, oh, what is going on with the world?
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They were pushing this kind of stuff.
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I don't get it.
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And I don't harbor the anger and hatred
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that the left has.
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I really don't.
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To me, let's have a conversation.
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But all they got is anger.
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And you can't even have a civil conversation with these people
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'cause all they want to see is who's gonna yell louder
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than the person next to them.
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And it's just, it's immature, it's ignorance, it's uneducated.
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And it's just, it's childish.
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It's like a bunch of seven and eighth graders
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in junior high school mad about something.
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And it's just, you know, how do we get past this?
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We just have to keep fighting.
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Otherwise, we're gonna lose this country.
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- Well, Kevin, let's talk a little bit more about the fighting
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because the thing that would be indicative,
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and I'm painting with a broad brush here
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in terms of conservatives,
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even specifically Christian conservatives,
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and today we're always really, really, really nice.
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You could push them in, push them in, push them in,
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push them in.
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And finally, when their back was against the wall,
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they'd be like, "Hey, now I need you to back up, see."
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Because you're making me uncomfortable, see?
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But now I'm seeing that conservatives
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are going a little bit more on the offense,
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certainly with what was happening
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with Critical Race Theory in the schools,
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with LGBTQ stuff in the schools,
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taking their kids out of the schools,
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even in entertainment.
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You see entertainment like the Top Gun movie
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doing incredibly, incredibly well
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with a very pro-America kind of generically moral message.
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But even like, as a parent now,
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I've got a two-year-old in a five-month-old, Kevin,
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I'm always concerned about what my kids are gonna watch.
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So we love Bluey, the cartoon.
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That's the cartoon dogs from Australia.
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But the third season of it just came out today
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and I'm like, "I really hope there's no rainbow flags.
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"I hope there's no pride parade.
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"I hope there's not a transgender dog
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"that's gonna be in there."
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And I can't just set my kid down
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in front of the television for 30 minutes
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and let them watch something.
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I've got to be so on top of everything.
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Do you feel like it's gonna eventually whip back
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where everything is gonna kind of settle down
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and become a little bit more relaxed?
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Or have we kind of gone past the point in no return?
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- No, I think we certainly reach a tipping point,
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but I think even the CEO of Netflix,
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instead of doing some employees,
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"Hey, look, get past the wokeness.
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"This is insane what we're doing."
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He says, "If you're gonna be playing
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"this woken card all the time,
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"then you're more than welcome to leave the company."
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'Cause he saw what happened.
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There is a backlash right now.
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I'm sure that they've lost 500 million
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to a billion dollars over the last year,
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a year and a half, 'cause a lot of people have left.
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I've heard up to two million subscribers.
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Well, my gosh, that's what, 40 million dollars a month,
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at least.
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So they realize, I honestly don't care
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what people's lifestyles are.
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It's just that you don't have to have
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in every single TV show or every single movie
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that we have to represent less than 3% of the population.
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Transgender world is less than what?
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0.025% it's fine.
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Live your life and do the things you're doing.
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I'm not backlashing against it.
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I'm in Hollywood for a crime not loud, you know?
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For the most part, they pretty much kicked me out,
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but I'm still in the business making movies.
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I've worked with the gay population for 35 years.
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I've never had a problem with him.
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You won't find one that came out and said
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he was horrible to me.
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He's homophobic, hardly homophobic.
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I let people live their lives the way they want.
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What I get tired of is when you keep pushing
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and pushing and pushing and say,
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you gotta do this kind of do that.
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I said, you know what, I don't have to do anything.
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Just, well, you live for your life, I'll live mine.
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I'm not here to bash you, I'm not here to change you,
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but I'm just tired of what they're doing
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in terms of every single movie.
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Every single television show is like,
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in everything that's out there.
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You want equal representation?
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- Right, whenever I talk to people,
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I'm like, I talk to these people that are,
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they're steaming mad about all this stuff
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that their kids are watching and blah, blah and all these things,
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but they're still subscribing to Netflix
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where the movie cuties is still on there,
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where it has little girls stripping
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through the sexual predation pleasure of grown men.
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They still have Disney Plus,
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they still have all these things and it's like, guys,
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do you realize that you're aiding this?
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Like you're literally giving money to your enemy
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and even in the best way that I could possibly describe it
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is you're handing money to people that hate you.
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And I don't know about you, if people hate me, that's fine.
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But I'm probably not gonna fund their hate.
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That's not really something that I'm going to do.
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But let's talk a little bit about what you brought up
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in terms of being a conservative,
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being a Republican, being a Christian in Hollywood.
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Now, you've been doing your own thing for a while
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and obviously you've had a long career in Hollywood,
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but talk to me a little bit about that
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because you've even just mentioned,
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they've kind of pushed you out as much as they can,
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pushing you out without being undeniable, but go for it.
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- Yeah, they booted me up.
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My agent manager said we can't work it anymore
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because you're a conservative and a Christian.
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It's probably worse being a Christian in Hollywood
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for some reason.
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I don't get it, it's like being a double leper
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having both those Cs attached to your name.
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I love the business, I love the industry.
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Hollywood owes me nothing, you know.
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I had a great career of Hercules seven years,
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five years in Andromeda, did a bunch of movies up until 2012.
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I actually done more since then when I went on my own
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and I just got into the independent world,
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fortunate to keep raising enough money to make a movie
16:28
or get called in to do a movie.
16:30
They're all low budget movies,
16:31
but they're good movies with a good message.
16:33
Not every movie I've done I'm proud of,
16:34
not every movie I've done, I've done over 70 movies.
16:36
There's a dozen that absolutely suck
16:38
and I'm embarrassed that I've been down,
16:40
but for the most part, movies I've done
16:43
have been good family movies
16:44
and I'm gonna keep doing those things.
16:46
Like I said, to get booted out, it was sad to me.
16:52
To sit there, like I said earlier,
16:53
I don't harbor that anger and hate that Hollywood does
16:56
or that the left has towards people like me and you.
16:59
I don't understand why it gets this bigger
17:01
and bigger great divide that's going on,
17:03
but that's perpetuated by Hollywood.
17:05
I mean, late grade Andrew Bright part said,
17:08
politics comes down from culture
17:10
Andrew was the dear friend of my wife and I.
17:12
I think that's kind of fishy about his death as well,
17:14
that's another thing.
17:15
I think that's one of the things I posted on Twitter
17:17
I said, does anybody have any more conspiracy theories
17:19
'cause mine keep coming true.
17:21
Which they did, but Facebook took me down
17:25
about a year and a half for posting the truth.
17:27
Zuckerberg, the wussy that he is, doesn't like the truth,
17:30
he hates the truth, they wanna redefine what truth is
17:34
and it's unfortunate, I was posting nothing but facts
17:37
and they said, this is misinformation.
17:39
I go, no, this is 10,000 doctors saying masks
17:42
are useless for instance, I'm not saying it,
17:45
I'm saying, what do you think?
17:47
But I'm on the side of the doctor
17:48
because masks are useless, it's not gonna stop anything.
17:51
Look at Biden, he said what, he said all 47 jabs
17:54
and wears double masks and he said COVID four times.
17:57
COVID's here to stay but I think to segue again,
18:00
I think Fauci and Gates should be in prison
18:01
for what they've done, this stuff was all planned.
18:03
It was all done on purpose and it's incredibly sad
18:06
what these people have done.
18:08
But we do have a battle on our hands
18:10
and I'm gonna keep fighting with good movies
18:12
and the biggest thing is trying to raise money for them,
18:14
I do movies in the three to four million range.
18:16
So they pull in teeth to do the movies that I do.
18:19
That's three, four million dollars,
18:20
that's catering budget in Pirates of the Caribbean
18:22
and the Avengers, those are the three hundred million dollar
18:24
movies and then they have a hundred million dollars
18:26
to promote it, we gotta rely on word of mouth.
18:28
But I'm lucky enough to keep going,
18:30
I actually shot two movies in your home state.
18:32
One is called Girl of Leaves and Miracles
18:34
with Maris Corvino and Peter Coyote,
18:36
wonderful family movie.
18:37
I just finished the Reagan movie of Dennis Quaid,
18:39
there was shot in Guthrie, Oklahoma, right?
18:41
No, that one's coming out probably in February, March
18:43
and next year I've played his past tournament movie.
18:46
So we're staying busy,
18:47
I got a Western we're hoping to shoot in your state as well.
18:50
So maybe we'll give you to come on the set.
18:51
But-
18:52
- Hey, if you need a red bearded extra, I know a guy.
18:55
- I think we can work it out, I think we can work it out.
18:57
- Okay, that sounds good to me.
18:59
- We'll make you a bad guy,
19:00
we'll kill you off early in the movie.
19:01
- Hey, that's fine, I'm totally cool.
19:03
I make a better bad guy than a good guy.
19:04
But yeah, you were filming that about 20 minutes away
19:06
from my house, the one that you did with Dennis Quaid.
19:09
Now, you said a cuss word
19:10
and I don't know if you knew that, Kevin.
19:13
You said the word truth about two minutes ago.
19:16
Now, we seem to be in a post-truth culture now.
19:19
You can extrapolate that-
19:19
- A five letter cuss word.
19:20
- Right, exactly, it's a big time cuss word.
19:23
But it's like, if you look at it in certain ways, again,
19:26
most people don't know what post-modernism is,
19:28
but that's where we basically get this cultural relativism.
19:30
Where your truth is your truth, my truth is my truth.
19:33
Your morality is your morality, mine is mine.
19:35
There's not a cosmic morality or any way to differentiate
19:39
between good and evil or any of those types of things.
19:42
How does that feel for someone like you
19:44
that is a family man, a businessman trying to create art
19:47
and we'll get more into kind of Christian
19:48
and moral art and those types of things,
19:50
when true statements are seen as anathema
19:53
or something that you can't possibly utter in polite company?
19:56
- Well, the truth hurts, right?
19:57
People hate hearing the truth, they'd rather be lied to.
20:00
I'm not a perfect person.
20:01
I've done a lot of bad things in my life
20:03
and I'll be regret.
20:04
And I'll probably continue to do stupid things
20:06
that I'm gonna regret.
20:07
But I'm not out here to preach to people.
20:10
I'm not here to just try to do movies
20:11
that have a more positive thing,
20:12
but it's so weird.
20:13
We're trying to redefine everything right now
20:15
or change the names.
20:16
I look at these people and look and say,
20:17
well, let's tear down these statues.
20:19
Let's get rid of them out rushing.
20:21
Let's do, I mean, it's absolutely crazy to me
20:24
that people think America's the only country
20:27
that has that bad history.
20:28
Every country is good and bad history.
20:30
And the whole idea about remembering history
20:33
is so it doesn't repeat itself.
20:34
And now we're gonna repeat it
20:35
because people wanna get rid of it.
20:36
They're not teaching in properly in schools anymore.
20:38
They don't even teach kids
20:39
about the American Revolution or the Civil War.
20:41
They're just getting rid of it.
20:43
And this is reality.
20:46
We got people out there thinking that the Holocaust was fake.
20:48
Even though you've got video footage,
20:51
you've got all this, you know, the knowledge there
20:53
that's right there in front of you.
20:54
But this whole thing about your truth
20:57
is your truth, my truth, the truth is the truth.
20:59
Right is right, left is left.
21:00
Two plus two is four.
21:02
Quick change in the definition of all these words right now.
21:04
There are things that are normal
21:06
and things that are abnormal.
21:07
That's why it's not normal to run
21:10
around killing people all the time.
21:11
That's not a good thing to do, okay?
21:13
But we're sitting there making it look like now.
21:15
We don't even put these guys in prison.
21:17
There was a guy in New York City
21:19
who's been arrested over a hundred times
21:20
and they keep releasing.
21:21
He keeps committing crimes.
21:23
What do we have to do?
21:25
I mean, these mayors of these liberal cities,
21:27
I look at that crazy mayor in Chicago,
21:29
how does she stay in power?
21:31
A city that has as strict as gun laws,
21:33
as strict as gun laws in America
21:35
has the most shootings for over 4,000 shootings a year
21:39
over the last five years.
21:40
And I know this thing 'cause I've got a documentary
21:43
that's called Bleeding Blue.
21:44
Now, in the last, I saw a statistic,
21:47
it was 4,100 shootings in 2018, 41, just in Chicago.
21:52
That's why it does in the day.
21:53
Every single day that many say,
21:55
how many involved the police?
21:57
Very few.
21:58
0.2%.
22:00
Yeah.
22:01
So 99.8% are mostly black on black killings.
22:06
But it's mostly civilian on civilian.
22:08
Over 99%.
22:09
What gets the news?
22:11
That one less than 1% that the cops are involved with.
22:14
It's unbelievable.
22:15
And this is how they twist and turn things.
22:17
They were interviewing some women,
22:19
young women in Minneapolis rhyme from during the rise,
22:22
because that's my home state's turning
22:23
into California of this politics.
22:25
And they asked them,
22:26
how many black people do you think are killed by cops a day?
22:29
A day.
22:30
And they said thousands.
22:32
Yeah.
22:32
Thousands.
22:34
Don't you think that'd be on the news?
22:35
Are these people,
22:36
are they just that angry about that, you know,
22:39
in that same year,
22:40
I just mentioned how many black people are killed by cops?
22:44
10 in the entire country, 10 in 2018.
22:46
How many cops were killed?
22:47
80.
22:48
80.
22:50
Where's the uproar with that?
22:52
It's just, you know, they know what buttons
22:54
to push with people.
22:55
I think there's just a lot of uneducated people out there.
22:58
They're ignorant people that don't want to look at the reality
23:01
and don't want to look to the truth.
23:02
And they are back to truth again.
23:04
Well, Kevin, it's it's bite sized narratives versus truth.
23:08
The truth is too hard to absorb,
23:10
but it's we kind of have an easy proof here.
23:12
You can know something's not an epidemic, right?
23:14
So there's not an epidemic of police officers shooting
23:17
and killing unarmed black civilians that are sitting there,
23:20
just reading their Bible or eating a sandwich on a park bench.
23:22
And the reason is,
23:23
is because every time one of these instances comes up,
23:25
you know the person's name.
23:26
Like, because if something's a real epidemic,
23:28
most people can't name a hundred people
23:30
that died in the Holocaust,
23:31
because there were six million people that's too much information
23:35
for our brains to take in.
23:36
It's so much easier to play into a narrative
23:38
as opposed to truth.
23:39
And that's why I tell guys all the time again,
23:40
on Donald's life,
23:41
we're here to equipment to push back darkness.
23:43
How do you push back darkness with truth?
23:45
But you also have to have four to two.
23:46
You also have to have resilience.
23:47
And you also have to have the willingness to do that.
23:50
And so part of what you've mentioned several times here, Kevin,
23:52
is the way that you're pushing back
23:54
is by making these wholesome movies.
23:56
And that's that shouldn't be a bad word
23:57
when you're describing movies in terms of wholesome.
23:59
But again, you know this to be the case.
24:01
And it's been talked about ad nauseum at this point.
24:03
Christian filmmaking kind of has a negative rap
24:06
because a lot of the Christian films
24:08
that were made in the 90s and 2000s
24:09
were hot steaming piles of garbage.
24:12
And so you have these people that are like,
24:13
I'm not going to watch that Christian film.
24:15
It's going to be corny, it's going to be that.
24:17
Now they miss out on that,
24:18
but then they run to the entertainment that has the budget,
24:21
that has the A-list actors,
24:23
but also has the sex,
24:24
has the gratuitous murders,
24:25
has all the negative things and woke stuff inside of it.
24:28
So talk to me a little bit about that,
24:29
about the perception of Christian filmmaking
24:32
and the work that you do.
24:33
- Well, I think that Christian filmmaking
24:35
has improved greatly over the last 12, 14 years.
24:37
There's no questions, better stories.
24:39
Because equipment now,
24:41
from sound to cameras, whatever,
24:44
is so much cheaper and so much better
24:47
than it was 30 years ago,
24:49
that these movies, I look at my movie "Guys Not Dead",
24:51
a little $2 million budget made $140 million worldwide.
24:55
"Let the Be Light" movie I directed did very well.
24:58
A soul surf movie I did with Dennis Quaid,
25:00
did very, very well in the life of Bethany Hamilton.
25:02
So more and more of these movies that are coming out,
25:05
I can only imagine, Cindy Bond's company,
25:07
that's great work, "The Kendrick Brothers",
25:10
do wonderful movies as well.
25:11
Rich Puluso and Sony Affirm do want,
25:13
I mean, there's a lot of people out there
25:15
doing quality work right now.
25:17
And I think the biggest thing is,
25:20
since there's a smaller pocket of us,
25:22
we need to get together and support each other films.
25:25
I mean, we all have different audiences that follow us
25:26
and similar audience that follow us.
25:28
I say different, just maybe I have fans
25:30
because of Hercules that wanna watch my movies,
25:32
but maybe I haven't watched an Erwin Brothers film, you know?
25:36
And we need to band together
25:38
so we can harvest as many people as we can
25:40
to watch our movies and spread the word better.
25:42
And I'm hoping one day that will happen.
25:44
But it's sad what people that they don't wanna take a chance.
25:49
Here's the thing, and I get this from, you know,
25:53
ages and agnostics, I've talked to them all
25:55
and I've got friends in that in those categories as well.
25:57
We're still friends.
25:58
We don't hate each other for different points of view.
26:00
And they say, well, the trouble with the perception
26:03
of Christians that they all think
26:04
there's so much better than everybody else.
26:06
And I'm not gonna disagree with that.
26:07
But it only takes a handful of people to do that.
26:09
I think most Christians, I don't know, are really good people.
26:12
And they don't have a better than now attitude.
26:13
But the ones that have a lot of power
26:15
can have that perception.
26:18
And that's the problem.
26:19
We need to fight back on that
26:21
because Christians, you know,
26:24
we need to be the most forgiving out there
26:25
and sometimes they can be the least forgiving.
26:27
And we need to work on that.
26:28
And I know that.
26:29
I don't need to because I know I'm gonna screw up,
26:31
just as bad as anybody else out there.
26:34
But at least I'm aware of it.
26:35
I'm trying to get people to get involved in these movies.
26:37
I don't wanna always have a Christian message.
26:40
I wanna have movies just have good values in there.
26:41
You know, I wanna do movies like "Blindside."
26:44
You know, what a great movie.
26:45
That people that maybe didn't have a faith
26:47
of any kind of message was still in the movie.
26:50
But they looked at it as a really good sports movie,
26:52
but the message was still in there.
26:53
It's still snuck up on them in a positive way,
26:55
not a negative way.
26:56
So I wanna keep doing more and more movies like that.
26:59
And I have those.
27:00
I have them ready to go.
27:00
We've got three movies done in the can.
27:02
I've got two documentaries that are wonderful documentaries,
27:04
very educational.
27:06
And they'll all be out over the next six to eight months.
27:09
- Well, I'm in in terms of your idea about,
27:11
hey, us kind of pulling our resources together
27:13
to make sure people are aware of this
27:14
that people can watch the films.
27:16
But also, I think one thing that you talked about
27:18
in terms of Christians, you know,
27:19
having issues and people having issues with Christians
27:21
is people don't like Christians to a degree
27:23
because they have standards
27:25
and they don't wanna live by standards.
27:26
But it's when Christians make an idol of those standards
27:29
and they make an idol of their ability
27:32
to check all the boxes and follow all the rules.
27:35
That's whenever it gets very problematic for a lot of folks.
27:37
But I do wanna kind of go back in reverse
27:39
and talk a little bit about early in your acting career
27:41
because I think there was a lesson
27:43
that would be good for our audience
27:44
to know really for anybody to know,
27:46
is that from my understanding anyway,
27:48
you can correct the record if I've got it wrong,
27:50
you had some near misses early in your career
27:53
that I'm sure were wildly disappointing.
27:55
So as I understand it, you lost out to Dean Kane
27:57
for the role of Superman and, you know,
27:59
Lois and Clark, the new Adventures of Superman,
28:01
which made Dean Kane an international superstar.
28:04
But you also lost out, and I didn't know this too,
28:06
David deCovany for the role of Fox Mulder and X-Files
28:09
as far as I understand it.
28:10
But you did eventually get your big break
28:12
as Hercules in the television show.
28:13
And, you know, you did a little Hercules type step before that.
28:16
But talk to me a little bit about that.
28:17
You know, one, make sure I've gotten all my facts straight.
28:20
But also, there's a big time lesson in there
28:22
that you could have just hit the reset button
28:24
on your entire life the first time you got the call
28:26
that said, hey, you didn't get the gig,
28:28
but you stuck with it, and here you are
28:29
with this incredibly long and illustrious career
28:32
in Hollywood.
28:33
- Well, I am a 13 year overnight success.
28:36
- Okay, see, there you go.
28:38
- There's a lot of work in it.
28:40
I mean, it's a very competitive business, obviously,
28:42
even on both sides of the camera.
28:43
I mean, it's, I love it if I hear somebody say,
28:46
"Well, I didn't really want to be an actor."
28:48
I sort of fell into it.
28:48
That's BS.
28:51
- This career, making movies and TV,
28:54
no matter what side of the camera on,
28:56
you want to be in that business, more than any other one.
28:58
I understand all the businesses for other people.
29:00
I didn't want to do that,
29:01
but I had to find a way to make money.
29:03
No, these are careers that people want they go after.
29:07
And it is highly competitive.
29:08
I mean, I moved out of LA.
29:10
I didn't know anybody.
29:11
You know, I went out there a little time,
29:12
I grew up in the little town of Minnesota,
29:13
about 7,000 people, west of Minneapolis,
29:16
and I loaded up my beautiful car and just moved out there.
29:19
And I just said, all right, let's give this a shot, you know.
29:21
And I've done a lot of commercials already.
29:23
Minneapolis, St. Paul was,
29:25
people don't realize they're headquarters
29:27
for a lot of big companies like Best Buy, Target, 3M,
29:30
Honeywell, Pillsbury, General Mills.
29:31
So I did a lot of commercials.
29:33
So I had that all-important screen actors' guilt card,
29:35
that side card that you might have.
29:36
- That's right.
29:37
- You'd be a champ to have an audition.
29:39
So that wasn't a problem for me to get a commercial agent.
29:42
But I will tell you, I was one of the fortunate ones.
29:43
I never had to work on a job in Hollywood.
29:46
I never read a bar of ten or weight tables
29:47
and be a bouncer to any of that stuff.
29:49
I worked very well commercially.
29:51
So I was very fortunate to just keep working
29:54
and keep getting a paycheck
29:55
and keep being able to pay my rent and my car loan and all that stuff
30:00
and take the classes I wanted to take and acting
30:02
and also, you know, get on auditions when I had auditions.
30:06
So I was very lucky that way.
30:07
And I was very lucky to meet a guy
30:09
that owns three apartment buildings.
30:10
So I got a rent control apartment
30:11
right in the Santa Monica Venice border.
30:13
Gold's gym is blocks away.
30:14
It was my second home.
30:16
The beach was right there.
30:17
I mean, as a guy in his 20s, this was awesome for me.
30:20
But yeah, I mean, I did come close.
30:22
Under the company thing, I got times like last five, six guys.
30:25
But on the other one, I did a screen test with Terry Hacks
30:28
for for Lois and Clark Dean Kane,
30:30
was the other thing that's been a friend for years.
30:31
I've been on Dean for over 30 years.
30:33
Great guy.
30:34
In fact, he and I just shot him to be together recently.
30:36
- There you go, see.
30:37
- And we bought, you know, a lot of times
30:39
with these autograph shows, these comic-ons,
30:40
we signed next to each other and go out and have dinner
30:43
and he's just a class act.
30:45
And so I initially got the role.
30:49
And when I did the last meeting with the,
30:51
with all powers that be there at Warner Brothers lot.
30:54
And then the next day, they changed their mind.
30:55
Well, Dean, so you go from the highs to highs,
30:57
the lowest lows in less than 24 hours.
31:00
It's a brutal business.
31:01
Three months later, I got hurt quickly.
31:03
So I was joked to Dean, I go, I go, well, let's see.
31:06
My show in seven years became the most watched TV show
31:09
in the world with Hercules.
31:10
And you're sure I got canceled after three seasons?
31:12
I'm okay, what happened?
31:15
But, you know, Dean works all the time.
31:17
I mean, the guy works constantly.
31:18
And I have a movie right now.
31:20
I'm trying to raise money for that.
31:21
I'm gonna direct with Dean and I in it.
31:23
That's a wonderful, wonderful independent movie.
31:26
So we'll see if we can raise the money to get that.
31:28
But yeah, I put my time in the bust of my butt, you know?
31:31
As a friend said to me, good dear friend of mine
31:33
from Minnesota, I've known for every service.
31:35
You go, "Serves, remember, it's called show business,
31:37
not show show."
31:38
And I always remember that.
31:39
You know, I was a double major marketing,
31:41
advertising in college and business major.
31:43
And I marketed and advertised myself.
31:46
I was my own product and you aren't.
31:48
That's what you are in Hollywood.
31:49
So I had a lot of nose, a lot of doors slammed my face.
31:53
Everything in Hollywood is about, you're too young,
31:55
you're too old, you're too tall, too short.
31:56
It's always something, it's almost rejection.
31:59
And, you know, you've got to just tough it out.
32:01
And I just, I bug my agents all the time
32:04
'cause I would apply for the breakdown service
32:08
and get me faxes back and that they sent to me.
32:10
"Hey, I'm ready for this roll, get me in there."
32:12
I remember my agent said to him one time,
32:14
he goes, "Kevin, I've got a hundred other clients."
32:15
I said, "I'll give a crap about your other clients."
32:17
You think they care about me?
32:19
And give me a chance to be rejected.
32:21
That was my mantra.
32:22
At least let me get in the door.
32:24
And I logged a lot of miles
32:26
and this crappy six-lane freeways of LA
32:30
on the 405 and 101, you know,
32:32
spending an hour and a half going 16 miles.
32:34
Stuck and stuff.
32:36
But I loved it.
32:38
I would never go back there to live.
32:40
I left four years ago.
32:41
I live in the beautiful city of Florida.
32:42
We left one of the worst governors in the country
32:44
with Newsome, the Santos,
32:46
who's the biggest rock star in our country right now.
32:49
And this state's been great for me.
32:51
I love being here.
32:53
- Well, I'm glad to hear that.
32:54
And I love hearing that story about,
32:55
"Hey, just give me in the door
32:56
'cause a lot of people just want things to happen again.
32:58
I'm a millennial."
32:59
Well, go ahead.
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- I gotta say real quick,
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this is the biggest thing I try to tell people.
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I do a lot of speaking events.
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And I say even with the troubling thing
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with so many people, they're afraid of failure
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and maybe they're afraid of success at the same time.
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But they fail once and that's it for them.
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They just give up and they give up on life.
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And then I think they become bitter
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and they become angry as the years roll along
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'cause I saw it happen in the Hollywood.
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I saw guys when I was in my 20s
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and then I got Hercules in my early 30s.
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But I saw guys just go off the deep end.
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One of the drugs, one of those alcohol
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or just a mood change in that.
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I had a buddy commit suicide
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because it didn't turn out for his career.
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They wanted to turn out.
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It's a very evil town, it really is.
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But at the same time, I love the creative business.
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I do, I love it.
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People say, "Oh, why do you end there?
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"If it's such so many jerks in there?"
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I love being on the set.
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I love the process of working with people,
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creating something of nothing.
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Working with talented writers, camera people,
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hair and makeup people, whatever it may be,
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visual effects guys.
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So I still have a love for him.
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I'm still a kid when I'm on the set and I still enjoy it.
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I'm grateful that Hercules by season three,
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they started letting me direct in some of them
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'cause that led on me now,
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directing what I'm doing on these movies.
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So it's been a God sending a lot of ways for me
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because I love doing it.
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But boy, it's tough and it beats you up
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and you gotta be able to stick it out
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because too many people give up,
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not only in my business, it's just in life.
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And they wanna blame God or blame a God
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they don't believe in or blame a family, friends, the world.
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And I tell people, cue the Michael Jackson song,
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it's the man in the mirror, look in the mirror,
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that's what the problem is.
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And we need people to really gut it out
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and stop blaming the rest of the world
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or the problems that they have created on their own
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and say, you know what, I gotta get going
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and I gotta do something about this life
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'cause too many people just give up
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and they become miserable SOBs
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that you're seeing played out right now
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in the Antifa world.
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Again, if I did a documentary on Antifa,
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individual interviews with all of them,
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if they would let me without trying to kill me,
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I don't hate them,
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but yet they're gonna hate you and me just, you know,
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Antifa stands for what, anti-fascist, they are fascists.
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They mustn't know that, if they don't know that,
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then they need to be educated for it.
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But I would love the interview, seriously,
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and I don't mean that in a negative way.
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I'd love to say, okay, I bet there's a common thread here,
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it's a common denominator of what's going on
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in each of their lives, I know there is.
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And that becomes, it's like a gang, right?
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That's what people join gangs,
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to make up for the loss of fathers
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'cause 80% of black kids in this country
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have raised a lot of father.
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So you gotta see the link there,
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it's proven that in that link,
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there's more violence, there's gang members,
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there's drugs, there's alcohol, there's abuse,
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there's prison, I mean, it's right there,
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I don't make this stuff up, it's reality.
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But once again, don't send the truth.
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Oh, that's truth, don't talk about it.
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- Yeah, it's-
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- We need to talk about it.
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- Well, and also something that you're talking about,
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there's just talking about the resistance that you meet
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in Hollywood, a lot of it has to do
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with discipline over motivation.
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You know, I wasn't motivated to get into my home gym
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this morning and put a bunch of weight on the bar
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and squat down to the floor and then get back up,
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but it's what discipline required of me.
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So I had pre-decided that I am a guy that lifts weight,
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so there's someone I'm gonna do.
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It might be, I'm a guy that reads the Bible
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or I'm a guy that goes for a run,
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I'm a guy that does a hard thing.
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Now, we could talk about a million more things,
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but we will the next time you come on the show,
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but I know you got some stuff going on today.
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So this is the last question I got for you for the day.
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So you've done a lot of things on film
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for the last, you know, multiple decades.
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But if you could only leave one thing to the world,
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one of your works as an actor, so that could be a film,
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it could be an entire television series,
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but one thing in your entire career
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and the rest of your career is wiped out,
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what are you leaving for humanity?
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- I did a movie called "What If?"
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I've done over, I've set 73 movies,
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"What If" is certainly in my top three,
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"What If" is written by the same guys that God's not dead.
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In my book, it's a much better book,
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same, a much better movie, same guys wrote "God's not dead,"
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so I'm taking nothing weight from them there,
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but the writers even said they agree with me
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'cause they've heard me say this before
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that I think "What If" is a better movie.
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It was directed by Dallas Jenkins,
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who's now doing "Chosen," which is highly successful.
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- Right.
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- Dallas is the son of Jerry Jenkins,
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Jerry Jenkins wrote the left behind books.
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I just finished directing the next left behind movie,
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"Rise of the Antichrist,"
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that'll probably be out around Christmas for January.
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"What If" is an amazing movie
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because all of us have that "What If" moment in our life,
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and it might be more than one string of stages of your life,
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but you also go, "What If I Did This?"
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"What If I Had Done That?"
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Instead of, you know, it's like,
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there's a song by what's their name,
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from WOW, who passed away, you know what I'm talking about?
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So it's my name, George Michael.
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- There you go.
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- There's a song called "A Different Corner,"
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or something, and it's an opportunity cost.
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I taught in an economic stage that teaches
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that you might go right,
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and maybe you should have gone left that day.
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'Cause, you know, you've left so many different opportunities
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in your life, and we do this every single day.
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When we're driving a car,
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when maybe if we've gone left there with a car accident,
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maybe we went straight and there wasn't one.
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Maybe we went right, and something amazing happened.
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There's so many things that are,
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there's so many more opportunities costs out there
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for each action that we do.
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I mean, I could be working out right now,
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so I'm talking to you,
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but I worked out already this morning myself.
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I'm an old dude, I'm still working out every day.
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So, but as you know, somebody wants to work out.
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A lot of people, they give up too quick on that.
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You can pass that second or third week of working out,
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trust me, it will become a positive drug for you.
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And as you know, we have a huge obesity problem on this.
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I love, I saw Bill Marpo something recently,
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which I was really impressed with.
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And I mean, I've done his show many times
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back in the past is politically incorrect.
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And I love seeing this guy who's a liberal,
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who's left wing coming out more and more now.
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So I don't think somebody, at least someone down the middle,
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but he's posting live truth now.
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And he's [inaudible] off people on the left.
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I'm going, guys, once again, he's just telling the truth.
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What is wrong with the truth?
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But I mean, I'm hoping if anything's left behind
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of all my work, I hope people see what if.
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It's amazing, amazing movie.
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And it's got such a wonderful message in there.
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It'll make you laugh, it'll make you cry.
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It'll make you think.
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And hopefully it'll make you go down a better road
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than you're on right now.
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- Well, guys, I will make sure that is in the show notes,
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but that's all for me.
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Is there anything else you wanna get off your chest?
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- Go to Sorbostudios.com.
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A lot of things coming out of Pipelines.
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Sorbostudios.com and keep up to date
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with what my wife and I are doing,
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we've merged both of our websites together.
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Just, you know, we just keep fighting the good fight.
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And we have to keep on fighting strong, guys,
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'cause people need people needed out there.
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And I'm here to try to make things
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hopefully better for people.
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I've had a number one after school program in Los Angeles
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for 24 years, not called the World Fit for Kids.
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My program needs to be in every school district
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across America right now.
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People really need to look into it.
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Go to worldfitforkids.org
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and learn more of what's happening there as well.
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- Guys, all that will be in the show notes.
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Kevin Sorbo, thank you for coming on
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The Daunted Life of Man's Podcast.
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- My pleasure, all of us.
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See you next time.
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- There you go, guys.
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I hope you enjoyed my interview with Kevin Sorbo,
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but before we let you go,
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we are gonna do a quick resilience boost
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at The Daunted Life.
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Our mission is equipping men to push back darkness
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with content that for just spiritual, mental,
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and physical resilience.
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So I've got a bunch of links for you here today.
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So I've got Kevin's website.
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I've got his Twitter.
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You should definitely be following him on Twitter.
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I've also got a link to Sorbo Studios,
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which he mentioned in the podcast
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and also World Fit for Kids.
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And in the movie he mentioned there,
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what if I've got a link to where you can purchase that
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on Amazon, then I've got a link to a couple of books
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that he has there on Amazon called One's Called True Strength
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and the other one is called True Faith.
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