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"This is Undaunted Life, a Man's Podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it."
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J.B.
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Martin, welcome back to my house.
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Where you are?
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How's it feel?
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Feels great, especially now.
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Well, we'll get to the why I feel special now, but there happens to be an addition to
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the table.
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There's an open bottle of Happy Van Winkle 20-year-old bourbon, which just so happens
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to also be my favorite bourbon in the world.
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Do you think, "Oh my gosh, look, we got glasses."
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J.B.
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There are Glen Caron glasses on this table.
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Would you like to go ahead and partake?
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I would love to.
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I thought this was against the rules.
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I thought if you were a Christian, you weren't allowed to drink or dance or have fun.
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It depends on whose rules you're listening to.
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What about God's?
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What does God say?
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No.
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Every good and perfect gift is from above.
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Well, let's take a look.
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You can have the Oklahoma bourbon connoisseur shout-out glass or the Oklahoma State University
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glass.
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I'm going to go with the Oklahoma State.
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Cowboys, because you're wearing a cowboy hat.
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Nope.
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Because my friend Bob who lives in Texas is an Oklahoma State grad and they invited me
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out to his place to hunt.
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Shout-out to Bob in Texas and people are thinking, "Oh my gosh, those are enormous
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pours."
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Yeah, that's probably an ounce and a half, maybe two ounces.
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Leave that right there.
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Just so our editor land and gets mad, "Oh, you lifted right in the middle of the table."
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Oh, no.
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There you go.
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Slancia.
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To the king.
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Appreciate you.
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So I think people are going to be wondering right from the beginning, why in the world
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is this episode called Skunks and Crosses?
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And so I don't think that we should leave people in any suspense.
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So just to set it up, I don't know when this is coming out, it's going to be coming out
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weeks after the fact, probably maybe a couple months.
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So I do an annual whiskey tasting called the Blue Glass Whiskey Tasting Experience or Blue
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Glass.
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Yeah, that's the name.
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Got the name of my own thing, right?
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So we've done it two years in a row.
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So this year, we're like, "Okay, Joby, you should come out, but like, let's do it around
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to hunt."
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And so we have a good friend, mutual friend Heath.
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His family has some property that we can go hunt on and it's like, "Okay, so let's go
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and do that."
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So we're driving out.
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So we do the tasting.
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Tasting goes great.
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The Dominion guys came out.
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So shout-out to Dominion Team One.
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All those guys came out to Oklahoma a couple of days beforehand.
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We did some jujitsu, we broke bread, we drank whiskey, we, you know, smoked cigars, got
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some workouts in, flipped some tires.
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And so we're having a good time, do all that, take care of business on Saturday.
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Well, Sunday morning, we leave out early and we start heading out there.
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And then I'll let you take it from there.
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Well, there were two things that there's an overabundance of here in Oklahoma and it's
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not tornadoes.
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Those are like an occasional thing, right?
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Regardless of what you and G saw in the movie Twisters, okay, that's not an documentary.
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It's not an documentary.
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No, it's not.
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There are huge white crosses, cool, and dead skunks.
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Right.
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Well, okay.
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The white crosses are on the sides of the road and it doesn't matter if it's a big city,
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like right off of I-35 and 2nd Street in Edmond, or if it's in a small town, people just need
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to let you know country music theology is strong here.
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Huge.
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I mean, six story white crosses, which are great, man, praise God, let me across.
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And dead skunks.
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I don't mean some.
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I mean, about I mentally started counting maybe around the half dozen mark and I'm like,
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hey, dude, have you noticed these dead skunks everywhere?
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Up to this point, I hadn't noticed because things are just dead on the side of the road.
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You don't really pay attention to it and all that.
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And the moment you said, dude, that was the seventh or eighth dead skunk that I've seen
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on the side of the road.
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I'm like, surely not.
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Surely, Jobe is just, you know, there's some sort of joke or some sort of like spiritual
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application that I missed.
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And then I get tuned up to look for black animals with a white stripe down the back.
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And we probably saw 10 more.
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Yeah.
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And we called Heath guy that we were following and we're like, Hey, dude, what's up with
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the dead skunk and past two during the call.
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These things were like 50 yards apart on the highway.
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Yeah.
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And I reached out to about one every one minute and 45 seconds.
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So did we ever figure out is there like a, this is like skunk mating season that we did
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this and they were just like going crazy, like right now, they're not doing a very good
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job.
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But yeah, we got to, we got to do a hunt.
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And so the cool thing I don't want to give away too much inside baseball because, you
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know, family business, family owned land and all that, but there's this, you know, piece
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of land that's been in this family for a very long time, long time, long before either one
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of either one of us knew anyone in this family.
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And just the way the cookie crumbled is, uh, this hunt, me, you and Heath was going to
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be the last hunt on this family's property, like ever, like, you know, and this has been
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part of, you know, this guy's upbringing and all that.
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And the funny thing is I was already planning to bring this bottle of Pappy 20, which was
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given to me by a, I'll just call him Mr. Stags because I didn't get permission to use his
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full name on here.
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But there was a Mr. Stags out there.
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Him and his wife are a huge fans of the show and huge fans of everything on Dawn of Life
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does.
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And I told him what my favorite bourbon was and he's like, Oh, do you think you can get
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me some?
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And I've got contacts.
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I can get you the legit stuff and you don't have to worry about it being like a counterfeit
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or whatever.
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And he's like, yeah, I don't, I don't just want, you know, just give me two.
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And I'm like, Oh, okay.
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Cool.
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Yeah.
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And he's like, yeah, one for me and one for you.
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And I had known this dude for about seven minutes and he's like, yeah, yeah, get that.
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I'm like, dude, these are, you know, a couple grand apiece.
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I forget what they were.
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He's like, yeah, you know, you just need my card or whatever.
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And so I've been holding on to this bottle and it's been sitting in a different place
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in my kitchen to, because I'm just like, okay, I don't want to just pop this for any reason
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and just for any random slappy that's coming over or whatever that's not going to appreciate
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or ask for Dr. Pepper to pour it in.
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And so I was already planning on bringing this out there on the hunt.
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And then just one day I was talking to Heath on the phone about some stuff and I was like,
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Hey, how long is that?
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That property been in your family?
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Like, and he's like 20 years, man.
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This is the 20th year.
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And I was like, if you, if you could have seen my grin when I was on the phone, because
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I thought about telling him right then, bro, I'm bringing a bottle of Happy 20 for us to
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come out there and, and have, but I made it until we got all the way out there.
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Before we went out and hunted, I was like, okay, I need to give us an incentive.
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It's like guys, I, I brought a celebratory whiskey, a celebratory bourbon.
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And then I pull it out and I have it in the red bag.
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And I forget who, I don't know if it was you or him said you're like, what?
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Are you serious?
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And then so I think we both did simultaneously because we know.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So we got to, uh, we got to toast pre, well, we waited after the hunt.
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And so let's get into the, so there was stories because we had a pretty epic couple of days
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that we just got back from.
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So every good story starts with, so there I was.
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And so there I was at Heath's place.
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And we were looking for all the ad, which are almost impossible to find.
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Yep.
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They only have two speeds laying down, hiding or running full speed, apparently.
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And they typically just live in places where they blend in super well.
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And like this, this country we were in was really thick, lots of canyons, lots of hills.
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And I mean, really, really hard to find them.
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So we're running around.
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We're looking for them.
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We tried a little spot and spook, you know, we're trying to, whatever, we're just trying
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to get eyes on them to begin with.
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And then I say, hey, why don't I sit up high and maybe in a stand or something so I can
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glass and, you know, see what we can see.
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And so y'all dropped me off at a pretty high tower stand, redneck blind, pretty well situated.
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I'm looking to do south.
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You guys take off.
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I don't really know where you're going.
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Turns out the best way to get them up and moving is to get down and just kind of walk
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these canyons.
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Yep.
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Apparently you guys got up to 25, 30 yards.
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They spook.
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We pull up, we're driving around in a Jeep out there and we pull up to this canyon.
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And so we pull up and it's like, okay, let's get out.
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And so we walk the edge of the canyon.
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We come down into the canyon a little bit and we start walking back and we're standing
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there looking again.
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It's thick with dead trees and grass and all that.
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And then we hear some branches break.
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Yep.
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And so we walk a little bit further and then he gets over there.
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And I mean, this whole, this whole group of them stand up and got spooked.
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And so he's like, you know, messing with his rifle, trying to get a shot.
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And so like we realized we didn't end up getting any right there when we saw him.
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We just basically rushed him out of the canyon.
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We realized we drove right past them in a Jeep Wrangler probably within 25 yards and
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they just sat tight.
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Like they are very, very comfortable with their ability to, you know, keep themselves
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in concealment.
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And they'll do that.
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And so, I mean, honestly, I'm sitting my stand.
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I'm thinking there's no way I'm going to see anything.
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I have the Georgia, Texas replay basketball game on in my stand because Georgia whipped
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them, which is awesome.
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And it starts raining pretty decent.
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Yep.
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I look over my back right shoulder.
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So if you've ever hunted out of a redneck, this is not where you want to shoot from.
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Like there's not a rest.
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There's no anything.
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And they're seven or eight all to add piling over this hill, 270 yards going full speed
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full speed, full, full clip.
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So shout out to, we're doing, this is like name drop.
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Yeah, I think this is going to end up being the name drop.
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We've already shouted out.
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Happy Van Winkle.
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All kind of sponsors.
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Yeah.
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OSU guys send us money.
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We need church sponsors.
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What do you think?
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The church sponsors.
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I'm kidding.
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No, we don't need that.
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I think it's a great idea.
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Let's, let's, you know, tease that out here and say that'll be fun.
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So my, my man, Vic Keller has just hooked me up with a Christensen and arms custom built
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carbon rifle 300 wind mag with my name on it.
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I just got it from Dallas two days ago and shout out to my man, Matt Chandler, because
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I couldn't get with Vic's house because I was going to late point church to preach.
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So I saw Matt Chandler is like, I'll run this.
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I'll go get this for you.
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So all of you listening, you know, to undaunted life and you've heard Matt Chandler and heard
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it's sermons.
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He's even a better dude, even a better friend.
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I'm sure he's busy and he drops what he's doing to go get my gun.
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Well, even a, another shout out to another Matt.
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So you're, you're getting off an airplane and there's a few hours before this tasting,
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and it's like, well, shoot.
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I got this new rifle.
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I'd love to take it on this hunt the next day, but you can't really find a place.
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So shout out to Matt Conway of LMS tech, uh, which is underneath LMS CPA.
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All the shout outs.
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Guys, if you all actually like tally up the shout outs, we give the specific people the
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Matt Conway LMS tech, um, he just loves the stuff like him and his son, both.
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He's got a great son, Brendan, and he just, they love putting bows together.
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He loves, you know, putting stuff together.
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So you show up with brand new rifle, but you've already got your scope and your rings and
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the suppressor and all that.
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It's like Chinga pieces.
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I've just, it's all separate.
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I hand it to him.
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I could look at his garage and no, yeah, there were hunts, you know, there were some
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hints.
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So then he shows up with it.
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He's like, all right, it's bore sighted.
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Should be on paper at 50.
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Great.
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I mean, I'm thinking I've never shot this gun.
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I'm bringing what my other 300 win mag likes the bullets.
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Give him a shout out.
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Shout out to, uh, nozzler.
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Nozzler.
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That's right.
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Nozzler.
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That's expensive though, nozzler, but whatever they, they shoot great.
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I sit down first shot at 50.
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This is where we're, when we're sighting in and before we go out, yeah, we haven't
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even hunted yet.
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Lay down and your boy put bipods on it.
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Everything's perfect.
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Vortex.
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Shout out to vortex.
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Let's go.
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No, razors go.
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That's right.
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Lay down.
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Boom.
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I'm an inch low and inch left.
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That's impossible already.
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I mean, I don't know how your boy bore sighted at that close.
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I click the top turret and the left, right, turn next shot.
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Boom.
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I get my dope chart out.
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That should be perfect for 200.
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I shoot it one more time.
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They're touching.
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Yeah.
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They're touching.
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So I'm like, holy God, I mean, do two, two shots and I'm sighted in.
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I took a third one just, just to see.
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All right.
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And so now we're back in the blind.
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You got these odd dad piling over the hill over your eyes.
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Look over my right shoulder.
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They are running at 270 yards full speed.
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There's a pile of them.
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So I throw the chairs out of way, grab the gun, throw it out the window.
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I don't have a super stable rest and they're running.
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Yeah.
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It's not exactly ideal.
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My dad used to say, there's this ancient Native American hunting proverb, shoot, maybe,
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no shoot, no maybe.
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That's right.
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Let's go.
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That's all I think about.
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So this thing's running.
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And I was like, man, why not?
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I put it on the front of his chest.
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I'm shooting suppressed.
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And so I hear a fump.
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But you know, when you shoot a 300 win, man, it's not like you can stay right down and
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then see.
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Right.
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So I was shot from the canyon and he heard the thump as well.
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Yeah.
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So I'm like, man, that sounded like a thump and I'm watching them, watching them, watching
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them.
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I start texting you on information.
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You all come up.
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We get out.
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We go to look for blood.
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It starts pouring.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so like, well, we'll check this canyon tomorrow.
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It's also freezing cold too.
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So it's fine leaving them.
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And but I felt because he's also heard the thump and I heard the thump and I had a pretty
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good sight picture on him, I felt, you know, better than 50 50 that that's, that's got
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to be a dead animal.
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And I didn't tell you guys this, but the way they acted afterwards, like they went down
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in this valley and they kept stopping and looking back, you know, almost like one of the comrades
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is gone.
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So anyway, so then it's pouring rain.
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We're like, let's go back.
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We get in this Jeep.
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Holy moly.
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And I got a lot about this.
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It's like two 30 in the afternoon and it's like play and water ain't a good man.
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Guys, if you have never driven on the red clay of Oklahoma, when you don't have like super
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duper mud tires or something like that, it gets sketchy.
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I thought we were going to die.
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So there's this big land bridge and there's this pond, I mean, it's like a 30 foot 40 foot
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drop.
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I don't know.
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Gosh.
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And we started sliding around.
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I was like, yeah.
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And then we get stuck on this hill and he's trying to, it's a brand new Jeep.
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So he's trying to figure out how the whole job actually works.
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Like 20 days old and I thought we were going to get sliding.
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That's what I thought.
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I didn't care if we got stuck on the hill.
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We could just sit there until it ran and it stopped raining.
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We could figure it out.
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We could have got it.
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And we had a tractor.
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We could have got it out.
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No problem.
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And we just sitting in the truck.
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No problem in the Jeep.
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But when we went up and slid back down, I, in my mind, I can't wait for us to slide and
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then start rolling and then land upside down underwater in the pond.
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Best case scenario.
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And I'm trying to figure out how to, what door to open.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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And so we go back, we went out the rain, have a snack or two.
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I look at the radar.
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There's going to be a break.
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And then I say to Heath, dude, I got an idea on this break, it won't be long.
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Let's go get in the woods and get Kyle something.
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Hey guys, real quick.
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Yes.
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So we get back out there.
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So it's probably like four o'clock when it's like, okay, let's get back in the K&M at four
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o'clock.
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Let's start going back out there because we're going to get a break in the rain.
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And so on this property, they have Orcs and because of the climate and because of some
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of the things in that area, a lot of the Orcs have broken, broken horns and so like antlers
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grow back horns do not.
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And so when these horns get damaged or something like that, they just stay damaged, they broken
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whatever.
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And so like if you're running any type of a hunting operation and you've got something
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like that that's damaged, obviously guys want to go out there.
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They don't just want the meat.
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They want this, you know, beautiful, perfect, you know, trophy and all the type of stuff.
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And so the last time or two times ago, when I was out there, I saw, I saw this Orcs in
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the moment I saw it, I thought, oh, this is exactly what I thought.
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And then I'll back into it tonight will be the night that I will fall for you over again.
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Okay.
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So that is an emo song that's turned into a meme that's been applied to about 70 different
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reels and TikTok videos.
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This freaking or I just thought the Orcs was mad at his dad.
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So Orcs has been drying its tears with its bangs.
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And so the thing was is there's one horn that is perfect and normal and this other horn
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that is straight down over its eye, right.
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And so it literally looks like it's got emo bangs on one side.
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And so I decided to call my chemical oryx.
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And so that's the name of this particular oryx.
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And so and here's the thing also to back up.
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It had been weeks and weeks and weeks of prep to get to this weekend with the Dominion
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guys coming into town and me wanting to really deliver for them.
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And, you know, this was me meeting a lot of them for the first time in person.
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So guys, we launched this program, this Dominion coaching program.
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The waiting list is open right now and onto dot live slash Dominion.
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These are guys that it's like, okay, you've listened to the show for years, you've read
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the devotionals and it's like, now you want to know, okay, I want to equip back darkness.
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I want to I want to be equipped to push back darkness in my house and my congregation
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in my city. And I also want to do it with a group of like-minded dudes that are spread
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out all over the country.
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And so these dudes are coming in from Alaska, Florida, a couple of church 1122ers, Ohio,
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Indiana, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and they're all converging on Oklahoma, you
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know, one guy came up from Texas and so you want to deliver for that.
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You want to deliver for the tasting.
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And then we get past the tasting goes well.
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Great night.
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Shout out to Dewain, poor a stag lounge and Omer to cigar lounge.
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He he's the one that hosted and did the tasting.
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Two more shout outs.
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And so.
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Shout out to me.
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Because I won the biggest raffle.
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Okay.
18:13
All right.
18:14
We're going to go all the way back.
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So at this tasting, by the way, this would be my favorite podcast.
18:17
If I was listening to this, like Joe Rogan and Cam Haim just still like hunting stories
18:22
the whole time.
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Oh, and we're so far out.
18:24
I just got to remember where I'm at in the hunting story, but I think I can do it.
18:27
I think I can, you know, untangle this Charlotte's web here.
18:29
And so I get a bunch of yeah, I get a bunch of people that gave me silent auction items.
18:35
And so a lot of my good buddies, they bought some really cool items for the silent auction
18:38
for the whiskey tasting and then shout out to origin, Jocko fuel, primal beef, mountain
18:45
tough, half face blades, high altitude edge works, Mike Ritalin, team dog, crossway, like
18:54
all these people sent me these amazing things.
18:57
But then shout out what's that in a lead.
18:59
I got a buddy that got, no, it wasn't a lead.
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Yeah.
19:02
My buddy got one of those, the knock on was, I forget the name of the company, the, it's
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like a LSU or something like that, you know, whatever, archery company that is PSG.
19:11
What is it?
19:12
PSC.
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PSC.
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There it is.
19:15
All right.
19:16
So y'all can tell how much I've hunted out there with a boat.
19:17
And so we got all this great stuff, but then shout out to Clint Walker, because Clint Walker
19:20
of you follow Oklahoma.
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Don't look him up.
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It's creepy.
19:24
But great dude.
19:25
Dude started doing jujitsu in his 50s.
19:27
And like dudes just awesome fired up old, like, you know, you can't ever say it used to
19:31
be a Marine.
19:32
He is a retired Marine.
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Well, he shows up at my house about a month ago, and he's like, I got something for your,
19:38
for your whiskey tasting that you can give away.
19:40
Bro shows up with the 357 Magnum.
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Let's go.
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And I'm like, brother, are you, are you serious?
19:44
He's like, yeah, man, this is going to be the absolute best.
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And so I go, you know what?
19:49
That's going to be the raffle item.
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So we got silent auction and then we got raffle.
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So it's like, Hey, if you, every 25 bucks you donate, get your name put in the raffle,
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winner is going to get this, right?
19:57
So we get to the end of the night and we got an additional last minute item, which was,
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we did this, you know, at a golf resort and it was like around a golf for four guys at
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this really nice course with, you know, $100 for the pro shop, a couple of hats.
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So that's the first raffle item.
20:11
So I take all the people's names.
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And so some people donate 25 bucks.
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So they're in there.
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One, some people donated 300 bucks on there and they're, you know, what would that be?
20:18
12 times.
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Yeah.
20:20
So get all the names in there.
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I go to wheel of names.com shout out to wheel of names.com and I put them into wheel
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of names.
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And then it's got this big tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick with all these names.
20:28
It's like a hundred, hundreds of names at this point.
20:30
And I just hit boom, go car, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,
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da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,
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then there's a guy named Clay.
20:36
And I want to get the name of it right.
20:37
It's like, uh, it's called like cigar church or something like that.
20:40
It's like a YouTube channel where it's like guys just smoking cigars, doing church dudes
20:44
a pastor who's sitting at my table because he is a guest of Duane pour who hosted the
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tasting.
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Boom.
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He wins.
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Ain't that something.
20:53
Ain't that nice.
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But now he wins the golf.
20:55
It's he won the golf.
20:56
The, the, the evening's almost over, we got to do this last raffle, the sixth whiskey
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art bed spectacular, which to back up even one more step, shout out to Ryan horn because
21:04
whenever I was, I had just said goodbye to Roman the giant, a zip up the bag and I see
21:10
a glen cairn glass come into my peripheral vision that's empty.
21:13
And then I see a bottle of art bed spectacular and he's like, let's toast to your best friend.
21:18
And so rush Whitman shout out Ryan horn.
21:20
We pour some art bed spectacular shout out to art bag and they poured in our glasses.
21:24
We take some and we put some in a Bromens grave. We put them in there and then we bury them
21:28
and all that. So we had already served our big spectacular. That was the last whiskey
21:32
tasting. We are here. It is time to hit the button for wheel of names to see who's going
21:36
to win the 357 Magnum, but we already began with the end in mind. Shout out to you. What
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was it? Stephen Covey, you know, seven habits of a highly effective leader. I hit the thing.
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It's tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick. Joby,
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stinking Martin is the name that comes up. Winner winner chicken dinner and the room explodes.
21:58
I turned beat red with embarrassment somehow because you stand up and you just own the moment.
22:04
You're in your vest and you're a cowboy hat and you're just like, I am here. I am all that is
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man who wants to touch me. And so that was kind of like the final thing in the night. So you win
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the 357 Magnum. You're having a great weekend. We hang out afterwards. Everybody has cigars
22:18
on the porch. Great, great night. And then so here we are. So now we're back on the planes
22:22
with your mat at your dad, oryx in front of you at 212 yards. So he's over there with his
22:27
headphones on. He's thinking about cutting himself because he's so depressed and he's with all of
22:32
his buddies though, which is good because if you're ever depressed, you should be with with people
22:36
that are like minded. And so he's here hanging out with his oryx family. And remember, I said,
22:41
I was brain dead, right? So I'm bringing it all back. I was brain dead because I was tired. I hadn't
22:45
gotten a lot of sleep. I had worked out a bunch with the Dominion Team One guys and here I am.
22:48
And so on this, you know, terrain, there's basically not a prone shot, right? The grass is so high.
22:57
There's too many hills, too many canyons. And so you got to have a tripod or shooting sticks or
23:02
you're shooting off the cannon or the hood of the truck, something you got to be ready for that.
23:06
So we spot these oryx, right? And they're 250 yards away or something like that.
23:12
So we get up behind this, this dead tree. And I go grabbing in my bag, I got my rifle,
23:17
I set it down on its bipod so that I could go get the shooting sticks. And very calmly,
23:25
Joby looks over from his, his binoculars and he says, Hey, Kyle, I think prone would be better.
23:31
And then I notice it's a straight shot. There's not grass that's going to be in my way. There's not a
23:36
dead tree. There's not a bush or anything like that. I'm like, Oh, okay. All right. And so I
23:41
do I set my, you know, tripod down. And then I just lay prone. And the thing is, is if you're
23:47
not an experienced hunter, which as Adam said on the forging table a few weeks back, he feels like
23:52
and he would know a thing or two that I'm probably a blue belt at hunting, right? I've passed on
23:56
some things that a lot of people in the past on, I have some instincts, but I also as a blue belt,
24:02
a good blue belt should, I know when to shut my mouth and ask questions or I guess you would need
24:06
to open your mouth, ask questions, but I know when to shut down, but you do that thing and you're
24:10
how to be a man every January, like, like, don't act like you know, some, you know, you don't know,
24:14
yeah, or don't miss the opportunity to be the idiot. Right. And so this, so my chemical oryx is,
24:21
he's, he's looking at me, right? And you can shoot that animal like that and get them to go down and
24:26
all that, you might destroy some meat and all that and I go. Would you ask? Yeah, but I turn over
24:30
and I say he's, he's looking at me and both you and Heath go, just let it ride. Well, he's not hurried,
24:36
right? He's eating again. He's surrounded by his herd. So like he not, he's not running off. No,
24:43
you're gonna have plenty of time. And, and even if you were to get away, if the shot wasn't perfect,
24:49
we could restalk, you know, we had, it was the first evening of the first day, if we needed it,
24:54
we had another whole day and maybe even the short part of the next morning. So right all that in
25:00
mind, you just wait for the perfect shot, which you did. So in that moment, I got my bipod.
25:05
I've got a good sight picture. I've zoomed in just a little bit on the scope. And you know,
25:11
I've, I've widened my legs, my stance. I've gotten right behind the butt of the rifle. So it's going
25:15
to be, you know, basically kicking right, you know, through my body. I've got my feet flat and got,
25:20
got all that out. And so shout out to Badlands, sniper school down in Southwest Oklahoma,
25:27
who taught me all that stuff, a bunch of Vietnam snipers out there that taught me all that years
25:31
and years ago. And so I'm just, I've got my scope ahead of where he's walking so that if he goes
25:37
broadside or quarter to way that, you know, I'm ready to go. And at this point, the only thing left
25:42
to do is just remain calm, focus on your breath, keep your heart rate low. I had, you know,
25:47
shout out to Garmin. They've got a great watch and it's got a heart rate monitor on here. If
25:50
y'all are thinking, I'm going to stop with a shout out thing. No, I'm just just warming up,
25:54
getting started. And so I'm a heart rate, you know, is under control. And then at some point,
25:59
he kind of quarters to a little bit. And so I ask again, I kind of look, I'm like,
26:03
and I don't ask, I just go, he's quarter to and you go, you're good. Just wait, you're good,
26:07
you're good. And my job, if you're spotting, if you're, if you're guiding, if you're the other guy,
26:14
whether it's with a new or hunter or a kid or whatever, the work, what you're trying to do is
26:19
provide calm, not elevate excitement. Because you've also got a story of an elk hunt one time,
26:25
and things can get, yeah, elevated, like, go, go, go, now, now. It's the worst thing you could do
26:32
to shoot. Everything needs to go calm. It would be like yelling at somebody at the free throw line.
26:36
Like, do you know how much this matters right now? You don't want to do that. You want to be
26:40
like, no, dude, you got it. And you think you're doing okay, because in your excited tone, you're like,
26:43
just remember everything we talked to, just going through the basics. Stay calm,
26:46
stay freaking calm, whatever you know, screw up. Yeah, that's basically, and you were chilling,
26:50
and you would look, I mean, it was great. I knew it was going to be fun. And then all of a sudden,
26:54
yeah, he goes broadside. And I shoot right behind the shoulder. He jumps and kicks. And then if I'm
27:01
lying, I'm dying. This thing stands there. And then it kind of walks in a circle once or twice.
27:09
And then it lays down exactly how you would pose a dead animal to take a picture with it,
27:16
you know, for your glory shot or something like that, or whatever those things, you know,
27:19
the way you do it is with a big horn animal like that. You you you've been the like you put the
27:25
right ear on its right shoulder and put the nose in the ground with the horns going straight back.
27:29
And it did just like that and lay down and with with its emo bangs right in front to where you could
27:35
see it. And so and so and again, but the process isn't done. So again, as as a hunter, even when
27:41
you get excited, you get the shot, you see it. I'm looking through the scope. I'm running the
27:45
bolt. And then I see, I see the entry wound, I see blood coming out. I don't see it running off.
27:50
I'm like, this is good. But then again, even in that moment, I just turn to my right and I go,
27:54
do I need to put another shot in? And both of y'all just go, no, just wait, just wait. And then
28:00
like clockwork within five feet of where I shot him, he lays down and you know, he expires very
28:06
quickly. So that always makes you feel good as a hunter or marksman or an archer or something like
28:10
that when you can get an animal on the ground quickly and you can see it expire very, very
28:14
quickly without a whole lot of suffering. And so that was my so there was story. And so I get,
28:19
you know, we get over there, we wait for the rest of the works to kind of clear off, we go over
28:22
there, we take some pictures and all that. And then we think, all right, between the three of us,
28:27
we're in shape. We lift weights. Some of us even do cardio. We don't need to talk about who wouldn't
28:32
do that. I mean, even on this trip, Joby was lifting weights on my sore necks, outfit or rack,
28:38
which is in my garage. And so here he is, shout out to sore necks, you know, getting after it. And
28:41
he drank a jocko go from jocko fuel before then to get a little kick going into the workout. So
28:47
we're already pumped up for the weekend and we get over there and we're thinking, I just back up
28:50
the canam, you grab a leg, you grab a leg, we'll just get it on up there. And guys, if I'm lying,
28:54
I'm dying. It was like half Thor Bjornsson when he tried to pull 501 kilograms here recently at the
28:59
Arnold Classic, shout out to the Arnold Classic. We don't budge this oryx off the ground. Three
29:05
grown men, we can't get this dudes rump off the ground. And so well, there's nothing to grab onto,
29:10
even solid, there's handles at the low part, because he's been out in the rain all day,
29:14
all the grass is wet and all that. And so we're there, we end up, okay, we just got to gut it.
29:18
And so I got a little gutting lesson and things like that, because I was very used to, you know,
29:23
doing a field dress and quartering and all that kind of stuff on, you know, a dough or a buck or
29:28
things like that. And those are animals that you can manipulate. You can just lift them over and go
29:32
this way, lift them over and go that way. So I got a little bit of a learning curve there,
29:36
kind of getting all the guts out took forever. I was like getting embarrassed. I'm tired and
29:40
all that. It's like, okay, just stop it. You're fine. You can do this. And so we get it all out,
29:43
we get lifted up in the canam and we get back to the shop. And then it's like, okay, the three of
29:47
us could sit here and we could skin this thing and, you know, get on to dinner and all that.
29:51
But then you and Heath are like, well, hey, Kyle, if we if we just leave you here, like,
29:56
are you good with all this? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, go. And so pick it up from there.
30:00
Yes, we go back out. And I go back into that same. We just talked about how concerned I am
30:06
about how did you forget you got happy 20 sitting there? No, man, I'm just I'm just savoring it.
30:10
Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. I promise I'm not going to pour it out.
30:15
And so I go back in the same stand. Kyle goes to, I mean, Heath goes to just kind of sit,
30:22
come to find out. He just gets cold where he is. So I think he called his wife on the phone,
30:26
then he was going to, then he was just going to walk around in the canyons. Well, he ends up
30:30
jumping a group of them and getting three shots at a mature all-dad and dropping it,
30:37
although it ran down in the canyon. And right before that, he makes a strategic change.
30:42
Because again, we don't guys, if you've ever hunted for all dad, the odds of you seeing one
30:46
are so infinitesimally small, even if you're shooting on private property or all that.
30:50
So he had brought out a 22 nozzler. And so guys, if you're, if you're hunting, you know, and you've
30:54
got even a kid in your suppressed 22, nozzler, like you can take out a good sized deer. And I mean,
31:00
it's such a great round. But instead of taking out the nozzle, he takes out my Tika 308, which
31:05
has been a tack driver for me. And so he's got Remington green tip in there, about 180 grain,
31:10
shout out to Remington. And so they made great ammunition. And so he takes that out. And if he had
31:16
been out there in that same spot with that 22 nozzler, like, I don't know.
31:20
Nah, a big goat would tow it. It would be, I mean, it'd probably eventually die. But
31:24
so he gets it down. He actually goes gets hands on it. But again, it's cold, it's raining,
31:31
sun's gone. We're like, let's go. We'll come and look for our two tomorrow, you know,
31:36
getting to K&M, we get to you, you were almost done with the oryx at that point. You had all of
31:42
the hide off, which by the way, guys, if you're going to be taking off the hide of something like
31:47
an oryx or a Neil guy or an elend or something like that, it is not a white tail. I mean,
31:52
the skin, the thickness of the, like the fat layer on like the part on the front and on the spine.
31:58
I mean, we're talking about an inch worth. And so like, I stole a couple of knives.
32:01
Well, it's in the animal family. So it's very different than like the deer family,
32:04
whether it's a red deer or an elk or a stag, you know, so it's much way fattier. It's hard.
32:08
I found them, find the name of that restaurant. We had dinner at so we can
32:11
shout them out. Okay. Woodward, Oklahoma. Go ahead. Oh, yeah. Yeah, uh, lat. I can't remember what's
32:17
going on. So anyway, you had done a great job. You had you had it all the way caped. You had the
32:23
front quarters off. We knocked out the back straps and the interloins and then got the hands off and
32:31
cool it up and went to bed, got up early. We sat in some stands in the morning just to, you know,
32:37
see if we got lucky. And then once it got to about eight, 39 o'clock, we just started kind of scouting
32:44
around in the place where, uh, where we knew he's was and where we thought mine was. And sure enough,
32:52
mine was dead right where we thought he would be. And he's was right there. And so we, we cleaned
32:57
them up, threw them into K&M and that. And now here we are. Well, then we went to, we went to dinner.
33:04
What's it called? Long shots. Long shots grill. And Woodward, Oklahoma. So good. The wings. Right.
33:10
So it took me a while, took me a while to get done with the skinning and all that. And so here we are
33:13
driving into Woodward, Oklahoma, not exactly a bustling metropolis, but for the armpit of Oklahoma.
33:18
It's basically New York City. And so Sunday night, what's going to be open? We're all
33:23
thinking ARBs. Right. So we're going to go to Arby's. We're getting a half pound roast beef sandwiches
33:27
and curly fresh out out to Arby's. And then you're looking to the left as we're driving through
33:31
downtown and you see like a sign on. I saw a cowboy boot in the unsigned and a bunch of
33:36
Chevy's right. And so we go over, we investigate and we see long shots grill is open. And we see
33:43
we go in there and have some chicken wings and I have a rule guys chicken fried steak. If it's on
33:46
the menu, I have to get it. It was fantastic. So we get back, we toast the Pappy 20 that night. But
33:52
as of that night, we knew we had an Orcs because it's in my cooler. Yeah. We knew that he had
33:58
gotten hands on his audad. But as of that moment, we don't know anything else. We're thinking we're
34:03
going to go out tomorrow. We got a hunt an audad. Maybe we're going to be hunting Orcs like we're
34:07
not really sure what's going on. And so then we get to the next day. And it was so funny because
34:11
we sit in those stands and all that and I want to slow down that story just a little bit that you
34:15
just told because we all split up. Yep. And so we're splitting up and we're kind of pulling
34:21
double duty. We're trying to find he saw dad or we know where he saw dad is. But then we're also
34:27
like, well, if Joe be hit that all dad that was running at 270 or whatever, then you know, we kind
34:32
of need to look generally in the area where we think it would have stopped, you know, doing whatever
34:35
it's doing. But we're also hunting all dad. We're actively hunting on dad. And so you are in one
34:41
part of the canyon. You find he saw dad, which we already knew where it was. And around the same
34:46
time he texts you, he had found that all dad that you shot on the run full speed at 270.
34:52
And by the time we get over there, right? So I find out where you guys are and I kind of navigate
34:57
over to you and all that. And we're walking down. I think I sent you a video of us walking up to it.
35:01
When you see this thing and you've killed several odd dad at this point, right? One with a bow and
35:06
I think one or two with a rifle or whatever, you like you turn into a seven year old on Christmas
35:12
morning. You're like, dude, it's a giant. It's a giant. And then we get down there and it really
35:17
was it was enormous. So to steal a Matt Chandler line, it's not exactly the same. But he said this
35:25
the other day. Gretchen, one time it asked me, she's like, honey, I feel like you smile bigger in
35:31
your hunting pictures than our wedding photos. Yeah, it happens. Now here's a Matt Chandler line.
35:35
I'm like, babe, that that's two different kinds of happy. And yeah, you have got those
35:40
happy to be where they are. If I have the wedding smile in a hunting, that's not good.
35:45
And you don't want the hunting smile with you. So yeah, yeah, we'll keep them separate. Dude,
35:49
I love it. I was pumped. You know, 270 running. That's I felt good about that shot. I felt good
35:56
about my gun. I'm sold on that on that 300 win mag. It's just hard, dude. I mean, to go three for
36:03
three and one day, I mean, we actually got them all done on that one day. We recovered two later.
36:07
That was cool. It was super cool. And to do it with Heath, he had had, I don't know about you,
36:13
but but we all prayed over the situation when we recovered each animal. Correct. And so you
36:19
pray to hunters. Yeah, hunters. And especially if you're hunting with a guy that doesn't know the
36:24
Lord. Yeah, he's not going to refuse that moment. That moment means a lot to him too. And you never
36:29
know, man, it could be in a very evangelistic moment for you to give God thanks and pray for
36:34
your God and all that kind of stuff. Oh, we got to go back and talk about our gal for a long shot as
36:39
well. Yeah. Totally. So so you pray it yours. I pray it mine. And then and I'm like, all right,
36:43
Heath, pray, bro. Well, poetically, he's the last one we retrieve. This is the last animal that he's
36:51
going to retrieve. And Heath has spent basically 20 years guiding for buddies or guiding for paying
36:57
customers. And he's a duck hunter. Like he doesn't take things with horns or antlers. Like he just,
37:02
he's there to serve everybody else. And here he is. That was the hardest animal to kill out there
37:06
at his feet. I was his first all that he'd ever shot at his own place. And you know, Heath would
37:13
tell you some of his less than best years happened out in that place back in the day.
37:19
There was a lot of, you know, descends of the world, man, pride in life, list of fleshless
37:24
of the eyes. There were some times where he was sideways with his father who owns that land.
37:29
And now they are reconnected. The Lord has just saved him. And so in his prayer, man,
37:38
let's go, bro. I was, I mean, it was like a sermon, man. He was praying, Lord, thanks for redeeming
37:43
the years. I thank you that now my memories of this place will be with godly men doing godly
37:51
things, not ungodly things. And I feel like for him, this hunt redeemed a lot of some of the things
37:58
that may be used to haunt him. You know, there's those verses in Ecclesiastes 3 that say that,
38:03
you know, there's a time for every season under heaven, right? It's time to cry on a time to laugh.
38:08
And one of the little phrases in there is there's a time to gather stones and scatter stones. And
38:14
the stones represent memories. Because in the Old Testament, when God would do a big thing,
38:18
he'd say, get 12 stones and stack them up right here. So you can remember what the Lord has done.
38:21
And I think what Solomon is teaching us there is there are these significant times in your life
38:28
where you take certain memories, like a stone and you throw it away. And you're like, that's what
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I'm, that's not what I'm going to remember about this place, this house. And that's not what I'm
38:37
going to remember about this place anymore. I'm going to, I'm going to remember this moment
38:41
with my brothers in Christ chasing these animals and God blessing us in this prayer right now.
38:47
And it was, it could not have ended any better. I mean, I would, I was sitting there
38:54
so giddy for Heath and for the situation because here's the thing guys, I didn't know Heath during
38:59
those years, right? I got a couple of buddies, like one of my good buddies, Shelby, who's in my
39:02
foxhole, he's Shelby the stoic for any of you guys that are here from the beginning when I first
39:06
started talking about the foxhole. And you know, he tells me stories about from high school and
39:10
college. And I'm like, Shelby, if I knew you in college and high school, there's no way we'd
39:15
be friends right now, because I've always kind of been pretty straight lace. I've been a knucklehead
39:18
like goofball, but I've always been straight lace. I didn't ever gotten real trouble. I got in,
39:21
hey, stop, you know, trying to make the class laugh trouble. But he, you know, gotten some knucklehead,
39:26
like, you know, dumb trouble taking some risks he shouldn't have taken and making taking some
39:31
liberties and areas that looking back he wouldn't take liberties with. But the word you use is
39:35
perfect. And it made me think of something you said redeemed. Okay, so I remember when Tiger
39:39
Woods won a golf tournament. And this was after he had got caught, you know, being like, you know,
39:44
cheating on his wife a billion times and sleeping with hookers and all this kind of stuff. And he
39:47
wins a major. And everyone's like redemption. And I'm like, that's a, that's a theological term.
39:54
Dude won a golf tournament. Hey, good on you. Got a couple million dollars. I'm sure your sponsors
39:58
if you're going to golf, those guys are right. Right. Got to wear your red shirt and everybody's
40:03
buying TW Nike merch and all that's great. Good for you. But that was an ultimate redemption moment
40:09
for a guy that I've only got to experience his darker years, his dark nights of the soul.
40:15
You know, his valley of the shadow of death through stories. But even in a story in the tone of a
40:21
story for a guy that's even stoic, like Heath is, you can tell that there's a lot of pain there.
40:25
And he even said something just kind of off like, you know, a throwaway comment that I like landed
40:29
with me. He's like, man, there were about three times where I thought where I said I'd never come
40:33
back out here. And here we are praying and he's giving this this incredibly apro prayer over this
40:40
animal. It was worship, bro. It was worship. And I think that that's one thing categorically that
40:45
we have to understand that there are moments of worship and there are moments where pausing needs
40:48
to happen. And there's a lot of excitement. If you get all excited and high five, your buddies,
40:53
after you get something on the ground, all that, I'm all for that. But guys, when you get to the
40:57
animal, put your hand on the animal and whoever's there with you. And if no one's there with you,
41:03
you pray and you just give God. Thanks for his creation. You give God. Thanks for providing that
41:08
meat for you and the other families. And here's another cool thing that that he did. He prayed for
41:13
who would ever who ever would own and run that land in the future. Right. Think about that because
41:18
God's not making any more land. And here's the other thing about land. We know where all of it is,
41:22
right? We don't even know where all the water is. Where do you think, you know, companies that dig
41:25
water wells are doing all day long, they're not hitting a hundred percent of the time, right?
41:29
We know we're all the land is, right? There's no more for sale. There's no more available.
41:33
So at some point, that land is not going to be in his family, right? And he's praying over that
41:39
land for somebody else to make good memories with godly men and that they can see Christ in his
41:44
creation there on those, that very same, you know, red clay. So speaking of prayer, we go to,
41:50
what's it called? Long shots, long shots in Woodward, Oklahoma. So we out out. So we go to long shots
41:55
and it's Kyle's habit that when you ordered dinner, he says, Hey, we're about to ask the blessing to
42:01
the waitress or waiter. Is there anything that we could be in prayer with you about? And this,
42:07
and you know, sometimes people don't, don't love it. They're like, you know, little piece or whatever.
42:10
Yeah. And so, but this, this, this lady, she stops. It took her back. She got a little teared up.
42:17
She's like, Oh my God, no, I was ever asked me this. And she was like, Hey, we pray for my kids
42:21
and their teenage ish. And so we get, she gives the names. She stays there. We pray.
42:27
And we always ask, would you like to stay for the prayer? We don't just start praying and make it
42:30
weird. So, Hey, would you like to stay with us? Yeah. And so it long shots was so good that after
42:36
we all killed out today and cleaned everything up, we decided to stop there for lunch because the
42:39
wings were that good. So we go back and she's there. Yep. And she comes running up to her table.
42:45
That's right. She wasn't our waitress today. Right. She saw us same as that. Guys, you're not going
42:48
to believe it. You know how last night we prayed for my kid and one of my kids was in school and he
42:52
never wants to go to class. He's in college in a different town. He never wants to go to class.
42:56
He's always playing hooky and I'm praying he'll make good decisions. His professor from the school
43:01
just happened to be in town and was happy to be in that restaurant. And in her testimony is,
43:06
gave me a great report and he's doing great and he's been in class every day this month. And so,
43:11
just thank you. So we didn't do anything other than ask a question. That's right.
43:16
And here's the thing guys, because I know that sounds weird. It sounds like a weird thing to do,
43:21
because, but here's, here's the exact cadence that happens nine out of 10 times when you're
43:26
at any restaurant, at least in the south where people are generally polite. They set down everyone's
43:30
plate. And then what do they say? Is there anything else I can get you? The answer is,
43:35
yes, we are about to bless our meal. And again, you have to be presumptive in your question
43:41
to elicit a response. So it's not, do you have anything we can pray for you about? Yes, no,
43:48
which is how I used to ask it. But now it's more open and it's like, hey, we're about to bless our
43:52
meal. What can we pray for you? Well, like, what can we pray about for you like that type of thing?
43:57
And again, yes, some people are like, uh, world peace or, uh, no, I'm good. And then they like
44:00
run away. And it's like, you know, hey, they've got purple hair in a nose ring. They're trying
44:04
to make sure they know when the next election is so they can vote for Kamala Harris or whoever.
44:07
And so it's like, yeah, just let them go, you know, and just pray for them. But then like,
44:10
when you have those people that get stuck with it, there's another story. My favorite
44:14
wings, the entire planet are chicken and beer, uh, in Oklahoma City. So shout out best wings.
44:18
If you're going to go there and get the go to jang, it's, it's great and get the hot sweet potato
44:23
fries, the hot sweet potato, raffle fries. We go in there and I do my normal thing. I'm sitting
44:27
there with my buddy, Mike McCall, financial advisor, great guy in Oklahoma City. And we go there about
44:32
once a month, once every couple of months, guy comes over and I just do my normal thing. Hey,
44:37
and he's Catholic. And so it's always funny. It's like, Hey, are we going to do Protestant
44:39
or Catholic prayer? Are we going to pray to God or Mary? Like, what are we going to do this week?
44:42
And so here's the guy and biblical. Yeah. And he, I asked him the question and he freezes and he
44:50
goes and his shoulders kind of, he kind of exhaled and he goes, man, I'm like three months sober.
44:56
And I'm living in like a halfway house right now. And if I relapse, like I'm homeless. And like,
45:01
I'm, I'm kind of scared. Like I'm scared. I'm going to relapse. I'm scared. I'm going to get in a
45:04
bad place. So we ask him a few questions and then we pray for him. But then, you know,
45:09
you go on about your business. He goes back to finance. He goes back to the waiting tables.
45:13
My goes back to financial advising. I go back to screaming into my microphone and then a couple
45:17
of months go by maybe six months goes by and we're having lunch again at the same place.
45:21
And I see him and he's behind the bar and he and I make eye contact and he, he recognizes me and
45:27
I of course recognize him and I come up to the bar and I go, Hey, how you doing? And it wasn't
45:32
like, Hey, how's your day going? He knew exactly what I was saying. And he was thrilled to update me,
45:36
bro. I'm nine months sober, man. Like I'm, I'm doing good. Like I'm out of that house. I got
45:40
a place on my own right now. I got a second job, blah, blah. And that was about three years ago,
45:44
Joby. And so like every, you know, probably two, three times a year, I see that guy because he's
45:49
still working there. And that one question that's awkward. That gives you a little butterflies. You're
45:54
like, I don't think I should ask that because it's weird. Yeah, it's weird. But usually godly
45:58
things can be a little bit weird and icky. But look at what it's led to the fruit.
46:01
So here's something that would apply to all of you that have regular jobs at regular places,
46:07
you know, doing awesome things, man. I'm not knocking at whatsoever.
46:10
And especially like, let's say you've got a one more, at least that's a language I would use,
46:15
you know, that person that you would love to invite to church or share the gospel with and it just
46:20
hasn't gone like for whatever reason, you kind of hit a roadblock there. When when your coworkers
46:27
know that you are a praying person and that you will pray for them, regardless of what people
46:34
believe about prayer, I don't know the person that would turn that down. Now, and here's what
46:39
often happens, right? You let them know, Hey, I'm praying. I'm a praying person. I'm happy to
46:45
pray for you. I'd love to pray for you. Can you help me know or if I mean, when you work with
46:50
these people, sometimes you know, like they got a sick parent and you go, Hey, listen,
46:53
I'm praying for your mom and I'm praying for you. And you say these kinds of words. Okay. And they
46:58
may not be receptive. At some point, at some point, the fecal matter hits the fan and guess who that
47:06
coworker comes running to, not the fun guy at work. Nope. The prayer guy at work. Yeah.
47:10
And sometimes what you're doing is almost like pre evangelism. You don't consider it evangelistic,
47:17
but it actually is. And you're just building a bridge for that person to know who to run to
47:23
when that person thinks they need God and they know you know him. And that's a big part of what
47:28
you're doing. Well, and sometimes, sometimes people don't feel good about where they're at in the
47:34
pecking order of the office, because if you have pretty good self awareness with some people,
47:38
really don't, but some people have really good self awareness. They're like, man, I don't, I don't
47:41
get asked to go, you know, go out for drinks after work as often as most of these other people or
47:45
all that. And so you're like, sometimes you might feel like, man, I guess I'm just kind of a square.
47:50
I'm just kind of a nerd. Like, no, I don't want to go out drinking all night. Like I'd rather
47:54
go to a Bible study or rather to just go home and, you know, read a book and, you know, get all about
47:57
my business. And you're, you're, you're absolutely right that when it does hit the fan, guys need to
48:04
know, I was again, we're talking to a mainly a male audience. Guys need to know who they can
48:08
rely on. Right. And goofball Larry from a cubicle seven. Yeah, who's always knows the best bar and
48:15
the best drinks. And you know, they, they convinced the bartender to give out extra jealous shots.
48:19
Like those people are fun to have at a party. They're fun on a group text. They send the best memes.
48:23
But that's not a serious human being, right? That person needs a, an encounter with, with real
48:28
darkness so that they can seek the Lord. Let me give you another one. Philippians two, 14 says,
48:32
do everything without complaining or arguing that you may shine like stars and a cricket into
48:36
prayed generation. Another way you could be a shining light in your office is don't be the
48:41
complaining and arguing guy. When everybody else is complaining, because you got to work on Saturday,
48:46
you just don't complain. Don't be the complainer. And don't be the argue or grumbler is what the
48:51
word in Greek really means or don't be the one that's talking about everybody else when they're
48:56
not around. One of the quickest ways to erode other people's trust in you is to talk about
49:02
other people when they're not around because then they know, well, when I'm not here, what are they
49:05
saying? And again, this is like pre evangelism. This is just setting yourself up for, well, I know
49:10
I can trust this guy because he's not a complainer. He's not an arguer. And so again, guys, it's all
49:17
about investment and it's putting deposits into the right bank account. What do I say all the time
49:22
about spiritual, mental and physical resilience? The bill comes due every morning. I cannot Bible
49:28
study today for the rest of the year. I can't exercise today for tomorrow. Tomorrow, the bill
49:33
comes due and we all have, we all have ebbs and flows. We all have things that come up. We all
49:37
have busy seasons, but it's about that consistency and something that you've said, I don't know that
49:41
you've said it on any ask capacitors, but you've certainly said it in sermons. So I want to echo
49:44
it here for people that may have missed it, which if you're not, you know, shout out to the Church
49:47
of 11 22 podcast, right? So you don't know if you know this, Joey, but you have shows. You've got
49:52
two podcast shows. You got sermons and you've got deep in and people try to get on your show.
49:57
And the daily was just so happens to be the number one podcast for on the Christian devotional
50:02
side of thing for men. So shout out to me and you for doing that idea. And to Jay Owen over at
50:09
Churchill and 22 and land in genius and land in Robertson for, you know, kind of shout outs where
50:14
we got to be and shout out to you. Daily Blake was your idea, bro. I mean, you try to reflect some
50:18
of that, but it was your idea. You were like, I got an idea. This is what I'm thinking. And I
50:23
basically just every time we would collaborate, I just said, yes, everything you said, but it's
50:27
going good. It's a great idea. Good job. You are the easiest person that I've collaborated with in
50:31
the last little bit because here's the thing is I've met all of my ideas with myself because I'm
50:36
the most critical person on planet earth. And so before I let the idea out of my face hole,
50:41
I typically run it through the Rolodex and matrix of all the different experiences I've had and
50:45
things that I like or don't like I remember what story I was talking about. I want to have a little
50:49
behind the scenes. Okay, about the daily blade. Great. Because it's probably September or last
50:54
year is probably after saturated. Okay. Yeah. So here's my mindset after saturated, right? So
50:59
saturated is amazing. Guys, if you haven't gone to a saturated before September, it's still
51:03
beautiful out there in Jacksonville. Come out there. It's, you know, was it Wednesday through
51:07
Sunday, Thursday through Sunday, something like that. It's Wednesday through Wednesday. So
51:10
Wednesday's Jim Bergen melts the place. Uh, Thursday is Matt Chandler, Friday's Derwin Gray,
51:17
Saturday's Ben Stewart, Sunday's Joby Martin. Oh, by the way, the baptismals are in the sanctuary.
51:23
We're getting the floors wet. We're baptized on hundreds of people, just an epic, epic time.
51:28
And here's the thing, you know, when you got Jim Bergen's Matt Chandler's Derwin Gray's and
51:31
Ben Stewart's who are all leading huge churches, have large followings and a lot of that stuff.
51:36
When those guys are looking around like, bro, what is in the water here in Jacksonville? What is
51:40
going on at church 1122? You know, there's a little bit of anointing that's going on in that
51:44
situation, but there's always the like, okay, now what? Right. And so like, you're real big on hate,
51:50
you know, adults don't go to summer camp. We know we don't have those big experiences. So
51:54
saturated is kind of like that summer camp because it's, you know, worship every night. It's big and
51:57
all that kind of stuff. So I'm already in this mindset of, okay, how do you keep momentum going
52:01
and all that? And I just got to thinking, dudes that need just quick, these dudes are on the way to
52:08
work. They're on the way to the job site. They're on the way to the gym. They don't maybe don't have
52:12
an hour to listen to John Piper, like, you know, do his Asperger's thing into a microphone and
52:19
need to dig into the sermons and all that. They got five minutes, man. They got five 10 minutes.
52:25
And so I call you and I actually didn't have a fully fledged idea. I just said, Hey,
52:29
guys that want prayer guidance or meditation or devotional and I'm just trying to like amoeba,
52:36
this idea into something real, like there's nothing for like dudes, like legit dudes, like
52:43
workers, like guys that listen to your sermons and like it, guys listen to my podcast and like it.
52:48
And I'm like, what if you and I did like some sort of like short form thing, like five minutes
52:54
like five minute daily thing, like real quick, kind of like my quick hitters, but like we're
53:00
talking Bible, we're talking devotional, but like no music in the background, like not super transcribed
53:05
and we don't get like some Scottish guy to read it. So it sounds cool. Like, what do you think?
53:09
You just go, yeah, let's do it. That was it. And then I was like, Oh, shoot. Well, now I got to
53:13
figure out what this idea even is is because didn't have a name. It was the Bible. So I'm
53:17
going to say yes to Bible stuff. That's it. And the biggest reason you said yes is because during
53:21
COVID, you said you recorded what 99, 20 minute, like 30 minute devotionals or whatever for your
53:26
people. Yeah, I had this overwhelming sense that, you know, our people were without a shepherd. So I
53:30
just did, I did devos every Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Yeah. And so that became our bread and
53:35
butter. And then but here's the thing, you have the idea that's cool, but execution wins out
53:41
over ideas. There's a lot of people that have had a lot of good ideas. But if they're not executed
53:44
on, then it's just they're basically worthless or farts in the wind, right? They just disappear.
53:48
One of the things I find though is that it's not just the guy that needs the little light Bible
53:52
touch. I mean, some of my, some of the like most spiritually mature people at my church listen
53:56
every single day and love it. It's just a great, it's just another thing, a supplement to their
54:01
hour long Bible study with commentary. Because it's good to have another voice, you know,
54:06
talking about what the Bible means. And I think about my brother, my brother's a police officer
54:12
in St. John's County. He loves the Lord. I mean, he's a, he's the dude. He's walking with Jesus.
54:17
He is definitely not a lightweight whatsoever. He's a heavy weight of the faith.
54:20
But the two things that are not going to work for him devotionally are just the word devotional
54:27
itself with like music in the background and butterflies and a soft pastoral voice. You know,
54:33
that joke, I can't, that ain't okay. Or even like, you know, a deep dive ash John Piper,
54:40
where he's conjugating Greek verbs. And he's like, what? I don't, I don't think I know enough
54:45
to know what he means. I'm think locker room and run my brother played college football. And I think
54:51
about five minutes before you walk on the field of your life today. Here's what the playbook says.
54:56
Here's the play we're going to run. Love you boys. Ready break. Yeah. Or the safety meeting at the
55:00
the oil rig where it's all you guys sitting on the beds of your truck circled up in the morning.
55:04
You're you're there. That's it. That's it. It's like, this is it. So anyway, God's blessed,
55:07
but God blesses his word. So we're just going to keep doing it that way. We've got some friends
55:11
coming to it. It's going to be fun. Yeah, we got a nice list of people that we know that that would
55:15
give, you know, 25 minutes, which is what half a sermon for most guys. And so that they're going
55:19
to come in and do that. But it's one of those ideas that, you know, people, if you understand
55:24
marketing sales and all that, there's like top of funnel stuff, right? So at the bottom of the
55:27
funnel is whatever you want the person to do, buy the car, sign up for the service or, you know,
55:32
whatever, you know, buy the widget, buy a box of widgets. But for us, we decided from the beginning
55:36
because we knew there was a big opportunity here, but we just didn't know it would work,
55:39
right? Certainly not to the level that it has, but it's like, we're not going to sell ads.
55:42
We're not going to have sponsors. Like, you know, people, but people are going to find
55:47
church 11, 22, because they found the daily blade. People are going to find undaunted life
55:52
that are going to, you know, through the daily blade. And here's the other thing,
55:54
an hour long sermon or an hour long podcast with a main point for 30 minutes and five quick hitters.
56:01
That's an investment, right? Because most guys don't listen to two times speed because they're
56:04
they're not smart like I am, right? And so they're going to spend all the time on one time speed.
56:08
And they're, I mean, that's an hour of your life. That's an hour in the car that you can be listening
56:12
to, you know, wailing jinnings or you could be, you know, listening to another podcast.
56:16
So that's a chunk, but five minutes, you got five minutes. Yeah, but I also think the others
56:20
happening. I think from what I'm hearing is, well, even like, I have to, I know there's,
56:26
how many podcasts are there? What do you think? Oh, it's somewhere in the neighborhood of six,
56:30
six and a half million. I feel like there's six and a half million. But after I listen to the
56:35
two, I want to this week, I'm out. Yeah, like bro, I'm waiting on your next one. And so what
56:41
I'm hearing from some people are, okay, you're, they say to me, your hour sermons aren't enough.
56:46
And now I've got five touches more during the week and deep in same thing, same thing with this.
56:53
Yeah, what's crazy, man? I didn't. You joke about me having a show. I'm starting to get email requests
56:59
for guys to be on my show. Can I come on a show? And I was like, dude, I don't have a show.
57:03
They don't get what deepen is. So like, and maybe people in our show, like if they don't
57:06
aren't familiar with it. Yeah, like undaunted is an actual show. Like it has a point and it has like
57:10
content all deep and is. So I'm the pastor of a church. It's a movement for all people to discover
57:15
and deepen our relationship with Jesus. Since when I got walk off the stage on Thursday night,
57:19
after I prayed for people in the lobby, I sit down with two other pastors on our staff. Sometimes we
57:24
have some other folks in the room. And all we do is a deep dive on the sermon that just happened.
57:29
That's it. I didn't know people were going to listen to it. You thought it was just for Church
57:32
11, 22ers. I wanted to go a little bit deeper. And not even all of them. Like 10%.
57:36
Yeah. Like I didn't think and it's crazy. It's a it's a it's in the charts every single week.
57:41
I never knew I didn't know there were charts in podcasts until daily, but I came out and you were
57:45
like, dude, we're number three. And I was like, well, so it's fun. After you went on a shamed,
57:51
it was funny because your sermons and deepen. At one point, I could take a screenshot on the
57:57
apple charts because my show and your shows were right there. We were all there together.
58:01
But the thing about the daily blade is it's okay. Hey, it's it's five minutes. So the algorithm's
58:06
going to like it because it's it's five days a week. A lot of new devices are going to listen to
58:10
it because it's a brand new show. You know, the they do the finishing of podcast by percentage.
58:16
So if you listen to five minutes of a Joe Rogan podcast, by percentage, that's a very
58:19
little amount. But for a five minute podcast, you're not going to stop listening at four
58:22
minutes and 50 seconds and you're just going to finish it out. And I purposely made the
58:26
intro out to real short so you don't skip either one, right? And so it's real shareable too. That's
58:31
what I've heard like super shareable right in the daily blade dot com was available. And so you
58:37
can like, and that was one of the things when I was trying to figure out the name, it's like,
58:40
okay, make sure it's not daily blade dot dork or something like that, because I'm like
58:43
undaunted dot life, which is so stupid. And so I can't get through all the spam because undaunted
58:48
dot com wasn't available. But guys, to tell you how quickly this thing took off within 48 hours,
58:55
it was already in, I think it was in the top 25 of all podcasts in existence on Spotify and Apple,
59:00
right? That's again, six, six and a half million shows. And then the Associated Pro,
59:04
I'll let you say because someone on your staff that you know, I don't know about this stuff.
59:08
I mean, I sent you the link, but yeah, someone on your staff, which I don't know how they even
59:11
found it, but the Associated Press, which have some issues with but the Associated Press did a
59:15
ranking of the top 10 new podcasts of 2025. And again, this is middle of January,
59:21
like most influential, right? And these are in all categories. So there's like three dozen
59:26
categories of shows. And we were the number three new show of 2025. And we're just like,
59:33
so I'm sitting there geeking out excited. I can't believe this is working. And you're just like,
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yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's what we do. Yeah, this is kind of what we what we make happen,
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make some magic happens. Isaiah 55 says this is what happens. Just put the Bible out there.
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Well, there we were one of three shows that were, you know, kind of Bible. Yeah, one was
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Catholic. So it was kind of Bible adjacent. But like there, there were three shows that were in
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the Christian sphere, I guess you could say that we're in that top 10, which kind of goes back. Well,
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we'll kind of make this the last thing. Because I think I've talked about this on ask capacitor,
1:00:01
but I'm not exactly sure if not just give another answer and just make it more unique than the last
1:00:04
one. There's a lot of stuff in in the water right now of culture. So I just had West Health on the
1:00:11
podcast not long ago. I was awesome. Did a couple of hours. Friggin love that interview. It was great.
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You know, in the previous interview that was released right before that was Sonny Sandoval,
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a POD very special interview for me personally, just because of my upbringing and how special that
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band was to me. I talked about how, you know, I struggle in prayer with being super
1:00:27
emotive and getting into the music. I don't really like it. But man, I remember worshiping Jesus out
1:00:31
of POD show, like just with my hands in the air, singing a song and, you know, then trying to elbow
1:00:36
people around me because I'm rushing us how you worship the Lord. And the thing about it is
1:00:42
you have West Health on Joe Rogan giving an explicit gospel presentation. Ayon Hershey Ali comes out
1:00:48
as Christian Russell Brand comes out as a Christian, which again, you know, comes out as kind of
1:00:52
interesting language, but it's that was co-opted by a demonic ideology that's now being redeemed
1:00:58
by Christian church. You have secularist atheists saying that they're culturally Christian, Richard
1:01:04
Dawkins. Jordan Peterson has publicly admitted that he believes that the resurrection of Jesus
1:01:09
Christ was a real actual historical event and that Jesus is God. His God, he's not gone there yet.
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Pestuo. I don't think he's put his faith in Christ. Bible sales are exploding. You have young men
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in droves going back to churches. You have young men getting interested in Eastern Orthodox because
1:01:25
of their Gregorian chance. And it seems more manly than anything they're getting from culture that
1:01:29
says manhood is toxic. And we had the Asbury quote unquote revival thing, which wasn't really
1:01:34
revival. It was a really long worship service. Like, I don't know, it's kind of hard to judge those
1:01:37
things, but there's just all these things that are just happening. And it's like, I don't want
1:01:43
us to get recency bias because things like this have happened throughout history. But it feels
1:01:47
like there's a capital A awakening that is coming. And I just want to get your read because if you're
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in the room during saturated and you don't think awakening, we need to check your pulse. If we see
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what's happening in these different pockets of ministry shows like mine, why is my show popular
1:02:03
and make any sense, right? But you have these guys that have found a place to where like,
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dude, this guy thinks like me, but he also loves the Lord and studies the Bible with other dudes
1:02:11
that love the Lord. What's your read of what's happening during this time? Do you feel like it's
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an awakening? Do you feel like we're on the precipice of something? I 100% do. And a part of the reason
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I think so is because it's not centralized, you know, it's not just happening in a particular
1:02:28
style of church or particular denomination. At the time of this recording, gather 25 just happened
1:02:36
that basically Jenny Island put together. And they worship like churches from all over the world
1:02:43
and every time zone got together. And it was hosted live from Dallas, then the East Coast,
1:02:48
then Europe, then Africa, then India. What you see on college campuses happening right now is very
1:02:55
unique. There are hundreds of people at Ohio State and then Auburn and then Alabama and then
1:03:00
South Carolina getting baptized coming to faith. What we see it at the church of 11 22 in and of
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itself would be an awakening. You know, we've baptized 1,642 people in one afternoon. I mean,
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this is crazy grow. And it's not controlled by anybody. You know, there's not this wasn't a
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top down strategy. This wasn't like if we can reach these cities and reach these influencers,
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that's not how it works. I think I think we may be repeating a cycle that's happened before that
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was very positive for the world. And it's almost like the devil overplayed his hand.
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And then it was kind of the new atheism, the LGBTQ stuff, all the cultural, I think everything
1:03:42
from 2019 to 2023, you put that all in one big demonic pot and stir it up. And that was our experience.
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Cities are burning. Everything is about race and hate. You got men beaten up girls calling it sport.
1:03:59
You're murdering babies at one of the only two political parties that have any chance of winning
1:04:08
and it's celebrated. You're you're cutting off healthy tissue of confused little kids. I mean,
1:04:15
bro, it's like, it doesn't get much worse. Okay, right, right, right. And I think there's a, you
1:04:22
know, eternity is placed in the heart of every man and woman, every person. And it's almost like
1:04:28
the devil that is horned show too much and a bunch of people like that ain't it. I mean,
1:04:32
you got Tucker Carlson saying I'm a Christian. I'm not a good one yet, but I'm a Christian, you know,
1:04:37
well, if you back up in 1968, there's a lot of similarities. There are race riots all over the
1:04:44
place. There's political upheaval. The sexual revolution is going crazy and out of it comes to
1:04:50
what we know as the Jesus revolution, which started things like Calvary chapels and I mean,
1:04:55
lots and lots of like a church, most evangelical churches today's
1:05:01
can have benefited from what happened in the early 70s from that. It seems kind of like that again.
1:05:09
And you know, God does things in cycles all the time. See the book of Judges, right? That was a
1:05:14
negative cycle to happen 12 times, but I think positive redemption cycles can happen too. And I,
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I'm, I want to believe we're in one and I'm leading like we are in one and I'm trusting God
1:05:25
that he, he's moving. Listen, the spirit shows up where the spirit is wanted. So I want to be the
1:05:31
kind of pastor that wants the spirit to show up, not just at 11 22, but in every Jesus proclaiming
1:05:38
Bible believing church everywhere. And I mean, one of the coolest thing that happens last year from
1:05:42
just personally, as we're, you know, we baptize all those people at our beach baptism and CBN,
1:05:48
Christian broadcast networking, they reach out, the anchor there's just great and godly. And
1:05:54
what he didn't know is that I've been watching him cover these mass baptisms all over the place.
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And I'm like, bro, this is the coolest thing ever. We show your clips every week leading up to our
1:06:03
baptism. Because it feels like we're a part of something that God is doing. Yeah, not like we're
1:06:08
unique out here in Jacksonville. Because it happened in Auburn, it happened in California.
1:06:12
Ohio State just had that kids, when it was like five degrees outside, they had troughs of water
1:06:17
inside of you halls. Right. These kids were getting baptized after an event at Ohio State.
1:06:21
Right. That one made me nervous because I'm a dog fan and Ohio State already has a lot of talent.
1:06:27
So when they had to hand a God on them, I knew they were going to win. Oh, yeah, the natty was
1:06:31
going to Columbus for sure. So but that's it, man. Listen,
1:06:34
yes, you test every spirit, but you don't want to have a critical spirit in and of yourself.
1:06:41
And so yes, I believe, I believe that God is on the move and I want to be a part of it. And
1:06:47
who do you think he's going to use the one said, the one that says, here am I send me or the one
1:06:53
that's like, and that's probably not you. The one that's like, Oh, I don't like your music. I really
1:06:56
like the examples you use. Oh, you sell books, which makes me feel funny. Right. Well, and that's
1:07:01
that's kind of thing that where we're at is we wrap up like, that's why we're doing the daily
1:07:04
blade. That's why I'm doing a Don life of man's podcast. That's why you're doing the sermons that
1:07:08
you're doing. That's why your church, and your elders and your staff felt the wisdom to buy or
1:07:14
treat center that you could go out in the woods and write sermons. Then you've got deep in,
1:07:17
which is like taking people a little bit deeper. And then everything has like a reason and a
1:07:21
purpose to it. And so there's also a reason and a purpose that this white bag has been sitting
1:07:26
on this table the entire time. Some of you guys in YouTube and are like, what is the deal with
1:07:30
this white bag? How are you going to tie that in? Well, the way that I'm going to tie that in,
1:07:34
you see, is my final shout out, because I, I'm pretty sure I know what this is, because I've
1:07:38
been waiting for this, because you know, when you train for a long time, you do do jitsu and all that,
1:07:43
like you, you kind of get after it, you get your white belt, it gets all beat up, and then you kind
1:07:47
of work your way along. But the belt is a very, very important thing. You do feel like you're
1:07:50
taking over again when you get a new, Oh my gosh, you do feel pretty good. Because here recently,
1:07:54
I earned my brown belt from the forge out to the forge. But as we look right here,
1:08:00
origin, which makes all their products in Maine and every product is put together by American
1:08:05
hands with 100% American made products. And shout out to john millen, like employee number three of
1:08:11
origin Maine, because they just made jiu jitsu belts. And by the way, we did shoot all of our
1:08:17
animals in origin camo. We did. So the camo is great. And here is one of the first, perhaps the first
1:08:26
origin brown belt that has been produced. And he got the little leather strap down there that's
1:08:31
got says origin on it. And so this is my fresh, brand new origin brown belt. I think I might wear
1:08:37
this to dinner. Do you think that would be a good idea? I would. And so oh, and I forgot to open
1:08:42
the bag. So I'll go ahead and do a post cut, half face blade, some of the best blades out there.
1:08:47
I should open the bag with that. Look at these folders. The thing with this folder is when you
1:08:51
open it, it feels like a fixed blade. Like that's how well this thing is. So shout out to Andy
1:08:55
over at half face blades for getting me hooked up with all these. But Joby, we've gone everywhere
1:08:59
in this conversation. Is there anything else you want to get off your chest? Yes. Christian men
1:09:05
should have conversations like this without a show. Yeah, you don't need a mic and lights.
1:09:10
Like, and if you'll notice part of what happens when some guys that are just trying to love the
1:09:15
Lord and you know, just regular guys, man, it kind of doesn't matter what you start talking about.
1:09:23
Yeah, it always ends up with Jesus and what he's doing. You know, yeah, it's kind of like in the
1:09:27
Psalms, whether David's having a great day, you know, David's pretty schizophrenic about entering
1:09:33
the house of the Lord or if he's like, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? If you'll notice
1:09:38
in all those Psalms, he always ends with with his eyes fixed towards the heavens saying thank you,
1:09:45
God. So I hope, even though, I don't know, there's not even really a point to this talk,
1:09:51
but I hope it'll be a good example for men to just get together with men and talk about whatever.
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And then whenever possible, amen at the Lord. That's right. Let's leave it there. All right,
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