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This is Undaunted Life of Man's Podcast.
1:20
I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
1:21
Let's get into it.
1:23
Mark Wayne Mullen, I would welcome you back to Undaunted Life of Man's Podcast, but I'm
1:26
not very happy with you, sir, because I've told you this over and over that I get to wear
1:32
the official uniform of Undaunted Life of Man's Podcast, which is a black V-neck.
1:37
You don't get to do that.
1:38
You get to wear suits and go to Capitol Hill and scream at people.
1:41
What's going on?
1:42
Why are you crowding my territory?
1:43
I just wanted to show you what a V-neck could possibly look like on a real figure.
1:52
I wanted to pull it off.
1:54
This is a footlocker, black V-neck, that's how old this is.
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I've had it for a long time.
2:00
What's footlocker?
2:01
That's my point.
2:02
Is that a thing?
2:03
Did you go there after you went to Hastings and landed a couple of VHSes and then went
2:09
to Blockbuster to return your video games, is that what happened?
2:14
I went to Blockbuster first, Blockbuster to have my video, so I went to Hastings.
2:18
Okay, well, I hate to admit this out loud, and here I am admitting it to my entire audience.
2:22
You look damn good in that V-neck Mark Wayne Mullen.
2:25
Maybe you can start wearing that on the hill.
2:26
I know you all actually do have a clothing standard that has now been reinstated, but
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the V-neck can be pulled off with a suit jacket.
2:34
Yeah, I'm just, you know, I'm wearing this and I'm thinking of you, Kyle.
2:41
That's what I'm doing.
2:43
I woke up this morning and I thought, "You know what?
2:46
I want to feel closer to my buddy," and I put on the V-neck, and then I combed my beard.
2:51
I almost died it to just get a little bit more red color to it, but I thought it might
2:55
be a little much.
2:56
Here's the thing.
2:57
Everyone hates you all ready because you're a Republican.
2:58
If you were a red-headed Republican, you wouldn't be able to go out in public, so that's just
3:03
something that we have to keep in mind.
3:05
But to dig in today, there's really no good way of transitioning to this story, but obviously
3:09
the dominant news story right now and really for the entire year is going to be what the
3:13
Hamas terrorists did in Israel.
3:16
As of the recording of this recording, that's on Tuesday, October the 17th.
3:19
Death count is 1,300 plus, mostly Israelis, mostly Jews, 27 Americans.
3:27
There's somewhere around a desert.
3:30
That number change is 30 Americans.
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30 Americans.
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Okay.
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30 Americans killed.
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Last I saw was 14 Americans are still in Hamas custody.
3:40
They're aware abouts are at least not known to the public, but I'm assuming Delta and Dev
3:44
Guru have a good idea where they are, but we don't know the current status of them in
3:48
terms of how they're being treated or if they're even still alive.
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Before we dig into the policy implications and the things that could come from such a story
3:57
of the American response, just give us your generic thoughts on what went down here about
4:01
a week and a half ago in Israel.
4:03
Well, I think it shocked all of us right, but it's not surprising because when you would
4:09
you have and I'm going to turn this into politics, but I'm going to build to why that's the case.
4:15
When you have a weak president that is more about appeasement than peace through strength,
4:21
his policy is appeasement through policy, and it doesn't work in the Middle East.
4:30
The Middle East has been at war for biblical times, and so when we start talking about what's
4:35
going to happen there, they only respect one thing is strength.
4:39
So you see Iran who is using Hamas as basically just a ploy.
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And what I mean by that is I don't mean to sound crude here, so please, no one take this
4:53
out of context.
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I'm just looking at this as from the world's view with Iran and the implementations of
5:02
what's going on in the Middle East.
5:04
Iran was simply using Hamas as an opportunity to kill Jews at the same time test the American
5:10
resolve.
5:11
Exactly.
5:12
When we pulled out Afghanistan and was willing to leave Americans behind, which you know
5:18
where I stand on that, and then be able to leave our partners and allies behind and literally
5:23
turn over Afghanistan to our enemy known terrorist group to Taliban and work with them, by the
5:32
way, on our withdrawal to allow them to take over the government of Afghanistan and take
5:39
over HKIA, which is an international airport, that we basically built and give them all
5:46
of our bases on the way out, and by the way, lead them billions of dollars worth of military
5:53
goods, that people started questioning what our resolve is.
5:57
And then you take in China is just doing the Belt and Road Initiative, which is trying
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to undercut the United States every step of the way.
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You got to realize there's an alliance between China, North Korea, Iran, and in Russia.
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And you have China that's backing it, that is doing the political influence around the
6:23
world providing the infrastructure for this alliance.
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You have North Korea that's providing the weapons, allowing it to be shipped through
6:34
the black market, and you have Iran that is supporting Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist
6:41
organizations around the world, plus providing weapons to Russia outside of even though they're
6:47
being sanctioned.
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And you have obviously Russia going into Ukraine, which were obligated to protect, and what
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I mean by that, to understand that a little bit more, according to the Budapest memorandum
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that we signed in 1994, we said that if Ukraine were to give up their nuclear weapons, we
7:09
would be there in the case that they were invaded specifically by Russia.
7:15
Now that was in 1994.
7:16
I don't think any of us would think that Putin would be going into Ukraine if Ukraine was
7:20
still a nuclear power.
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But since they gave it up, we agreed that we'd protect them.
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We've been wavering on that resolve, and then we've been wavering on our resolve to Taiwan.
7:35
You've been hearing Blinken bowing down to China.
7:40
You've been hearing the administration not sending out strong warnings to China.
7:45
And I believe, collectively, they thought, "Okay, let's hit them where it hurts.
7:50
Unless you use Hamas as a poi, let them go be jihad and get killed and go find their 77
7:59
virgins," which my wife brought up a good point, whereas all these virgins coming from.
8:04
And then let's go see what the resolve is with Israel.
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What happened, though, is Hamas took it too far.
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And because if you go back to 2014, when similar, not the same scale, obviously not even close
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to the same scale, but when Hamas really attacked Israel, and Israel entered into Gaza with
8:30
a ground force, it was only about three days after they entered in that the media and the
8:36
United States started telling them to back off, hold up, the collateral damage is too
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much.
8:43
And I believe they thought that would happen here, and it would show that the United States
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wasn't willing to stand with literally their strongest and best ally, especially in the
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Middle East.
8:55
But Hamas took it too far by the murdering and raping of children and women and beheading
9:05
babies and elderly and kidnapping individuals, and really there wasn't any option but for
9:15
this administration to come out as strong as they did.
9:17
And I'm glad they did, but politically speaking, and the geopolitics behind it, that's what
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really this is more about, how Hamas was used to test America's resolve at the same time
9:30
going after their sworn enemy, Israel, and those that lived there.
9:34
Yeah, and I think that's a great point that you made there at the end, like credit where
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credit is due.
9:38
The Biden administration has said the right words in the wake of this attack, but you're
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absolutely right as well that they're the ones that set the temperature of the area.
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And you know, people can go back to what happened when Donald Trump was in office.
9:52
It's like we didn't see things like this because he's like, okay, if y'all make me mad, I'm
9:56
going to drop the mother of all bombs on you.
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And just just so because I can and just because I want to show you this and our strikes against
10:03
the generals of Iran, go ahead.
10:05
It put into context of what you just talked about for your audience that may not understand
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that that was actual factual thing, Moab, mother of all bombs made in McAllister Oklahoma,
10:14
by the way, what happened was there was a the 19th group was it was in Afghanistan.
10:23
They were ambushed by a Taliban that killed a captain.
10:27
And the party of that was the captain that had just got traded out for medical reasons
10:35
was actually at my house when it happened because he's he's he's closer to me than a
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brother.
10:40
I spent a lot of time with him, obviously in that region.
10:44
And and and Trump's response to that was, okay, I'm going to drop the largest bomb because
10:52
this is the first time that this happens when he since he would have been in office.
10:56
I'm going to try to drop the largest bomb since World War two on your head, even though
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it wasn't even designed it wasn't even designed for that type of warfare.
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I'm still just going to show you and show the world that I mean business and boom, he dropped
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it.
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And let me tell you it shook shockwaves around the Middle East and we got a new sheriff in
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town.
11:24
And then on top of that Syria crossed Obama's red line by using chemical on their own weapon.
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Mind you at that time, Russia controlled the airspace over Syria.
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We literally would have to tell under Obama, we would literally have to tell Syria, hey,
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or not Syria, Russia, hey, we're going to fly in at this time.
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Don't shoot us down.
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And we're going to drop people off at this area.
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This is our LZ.
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So you know exactly where our guys are and when that happened, when Syria actually used
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chemical weapons underneath Trump's watch, Trump said, hey, in 30 minutes, I'm coming
12:05
in.
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I'm going to bomb the airfield to which that took off from.
12:10
And you can clear out, oh, and by the way, we're taking back the airspace.
12:16
Drop me if you can, and he went in there and destroyed the airfield, destroyed the infrastructure,
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and we controlled the airspace the entire time Trump was in office.
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And when Obama came in, or not Obama, Biden came in, we reverse those policies and now
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Russia controls it.
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Yeah.
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And shock of all shocks, whenever you don't show strength to your enemies, they take
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you for a fool and they take you as a weakling.
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And so they see us as both right now.
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And so again, the Biden administration, they're they're saying the right words for the most
12:47
part and parroting some of the right things.
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They've moved our aircraft carriers closer to the area basically as a show of force and
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support for Israel.
12:55
But now we have to get to the main question because yes, like policy wonks, they want
12:59
to talk about, okay, what type of funding can we give and are we going to be able to
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have enough money to support Ukraine and send more iron dome protection and different things
13:08
to people in Israel.
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And the answer essentially is yes.
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But at the end of the day, I think what most Americans are concerned about is, okay, if
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the dominoes start to fall, Mark Wayne.
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So you have Hamas attacking from the south, if Hezbollah attacks from the north, Israel
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can fight on those two fronts.
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However, but if Syria attacks from the northeast, that's another front.
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And now you have Russian proxy states and Iranian proxy states all in this war, which
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potentially brings Iran and Russia into direct conflict here with our ally.
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And then that means, that means we're at war again.
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So now we're talking World War three because China and North Korea, as you talked about
13:48
earlier, they're not going to sit by and wait for the dust to settle in the Middle
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East.
13:53
So I think most people were concerned about American boots on the ground in Israel to
13:58
help not just push back Hamas, but Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood and who the heck
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knows Nigeria and Boko Haram could get in this thing.
14:07
It could be a real big mess.
14:09
Where do you see this going?
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Well, let's back into the funding on this thing first.
14:16
There's a difference between Ukraine and Israel.
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First of all, Ukraine was a state that was very, was struggling to support themselves
14:24
to begin with.
14:25
It really, they technically weren't fully bonus of sports themselves.
14:29
And so they, they are a nation that their economies wrecked right now.
14:35
You have Israel, Israel, we had a memorandum of understanding that was put in place by
14:41
Bush 43, that had $9 billion of emergency funding set aside in the case.
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Now, $9 billion in war doesn't go very far, but it set aside to immediately do a plus
14:54
up in the case of a situation just like this that you just described, but it also gives
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Israel full access, I say full access about 95% access to our military weaponry.
15:09
There's some that's, that they're not able to access just because of the sensitivity
15:14
to it, but they also have a nation that their coffers are full and they can buy that immediately
15:20
for us and instead of us having to build it, they can literally buy it out of our inventory.
15:25
Whereas Ukraine, they're not allowed to take it out of our inventory.
15:28
We have to build it before we ship it or it has to be depleted munition that is expiring.
15:34
That's, there's a huge difference.
15:37
When you start looking at the volatility that you just described how you are 100% accurate,
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this could get out of hand very fast.
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The interesting thing is, is what happens in the event that Iran and Syria and then
15:56
Russia gets pulled in, China at that point would probably take an advantage when we're
16:02
literally fighting two fronts.
16:05
Russia couldn't come in and fight in the Middle East.
16:07
They would be focusing more in Ukraine using that as an opportunity for a full pledge and
16:13
full all out fight, knowing that we would have to focus a lot more into the Middle East.
16:20
What would end up happening is our partners in Europe would have to take that fight on
16:26
essentially and you could be seeing the real reminiscent of what World War II looked like.
16:32
We would be focusing more in the Middle East and the Pacific, which is where we would have
16:37
to put some of our attention to.
16:40
I would think that just because Iran is not well liked in the area, because they understand
16:47
from UAE to the Jordanians, to Saudi Arabia, to even Qatar, they all know that Iran is
16:55
the bad actor, but not one of them was willing to fight them alone.
17:00
However, if Iran were to go all out and the United States was there, I believe you would
17:07
see UAE, for sure, they're the only Muslim nation that fought with us side by side in
17:15
a war on terror.
17:16
They were in Afghanistan, they lost people in Afghanistan, they fought there the entire
17:20
time with us.
17:23
Even the President, MBZ's four sons fought over in Afghanistan.
17:28
One was wounded twice, so they weren't just sitting there observing they were in the fight.
17:33
You would see Saudi Arabia, who would have a real questionable decision to make, and
17:41
I believe their decision would be to come fight with the United States at this point,
17:46
and because if we're all in, we're in the fight, we have a reputation of winning the
17:50
fight.
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China would be trying to do influence economically speaking, but they wouldn't, and I know I'm
17:56
getting deep in the woods here, but Jordan, King Abdullah, HMK, he will undoubtably be
18:03
beside us.
18:04
He would be fighting with us, not necessarily fighting with Israel, even though they do
18:08
have an alliance some degree, but he's a peace holder.
18:12
He kind of holds the pieces together in the Middle East from this happening.
18:17
But if it happened, he would be on our side without question.
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18:28
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Okay.
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So I appreciate a little bit of a deeper dive on all that.
20:32
I think another thing that comes up, Mark Wayne, and again, I don't know the exact numbers.
20:36
I just know it's kind of like, yes, no, these things happen.
20:39
We send billions of dollars in foreign financial aid to countries all over the world, but also
20:45
to countries in this area, it's my understanding that the US gives money to the Palestinians,
20:50
to the Lebanese, to the Egyptians, like we give this foreign aid.
20:56
And as we've seen a lot of videos of now being posted by Hamas, mind you, the US and
21:01
other countries like it will pay for things like new pipes to send a Palestine for them
21:05
to fix their sewage problem.
21:07
And they will use those pipes to build missiles and rockets.
21:11
They will dig up their own water pipes, their own infrastructure to build more missiles and
21:16
rockets.
21:17
And to a simple minded okey like me, I'm like, well, if the spigot is turning from water
21:23
to blood, how about we just turn the spigot off and say, Hey, look, you have to stand
21:28
on your own two feet right now.
21:30
You are responsible for caring for your own people like a mosque, which is the rightful
21:34
government of this, you know, area of Palestine.
21:37
It's like, look, you're using the money to fund terrorism and to support, you know, you're
21:41
basically your Hamas oligarchs are living in Qatar and Turkey right now, high on the
21:45
hog.
21:46
But you know, the fact that your people are starving is not my fault, right here in Oklahoma.
21:50
I've got my own problems to deal with.
21:52
Well, why can't we just turn the spigot off?
21:55
Well, we, we would in the fact if we were to go out in an all-out war war to start, we
22:05
would.
22:06
And I would caution and first of all, I don't think we should be funding governments that
22:13
aren't friendly to the United States anyways.
22:14
You never can buy friends.
22:16
I mean, we all know that.
22:18
However, it's been the, it's been the, I wouldn't say tradition, it's been the history of the
22:26
United States to do this for our interest.
22:29
For instance, the reason why we send money to Pakistan is right now, that's really the
22:35
only place we can operate out of.
22:38
And so there's a, I look away, you look away, but yet we still have this place to operate
22:44
out of.
22:45
That's the next door to the country that we should still have Bagram.
22:47
If we would have Bagram, we wouldn't have needed them.
22:50
But since the Biden administration gave up Bagram Air Force base, we now have to operate
22:55
out of someplace.
22:57
And so we do it underneath humanitarian aid, USA aid is technically where it comes from.
23:05
From these other countries the same way, right now if we were to pull all that back, immediately
23:10
what happened with China would backfill us.
23:13
And then that would even cause a bigger issue.
23:16
Now if a war were to come in, they would be more bold to probably do that knowing we'd
23:22
pull back the funding because China would be back over here saying we're going to backfill
23:26
you with the end currency rather than dollar currency.
23:33
And it's not typical, it's very tricky on how we have to move forward here.
23:38
But when this, when the dust all settles and we really start finding out where the intel
23:43
reports are at, we start finding all the roads that were connected here to Hamas be able
23:49
to pull this off.
23:51
And all those actors that was involved in it, I think you're going to start seeing a reshuffle
23:56
on how we use our foreign dollars.
24:00
Okay, that would certainly be a good thing.
24:02
And I think everybody is on the same page here, Mark Wayne, that everybody wants and everybody
24:08
that's a praying person is praying for peace in the Middle East.
24:11
But as of right now, the only way that we get peace in the Middle East is if Hamas is
24:15
annihilated.
24:16
That's the only way because we are warning everybody else, but that's that has to happen.
24:21
That's not act.
24:22
That's not 100% accurate.
24:24
You can cut off the tell of a snake and it still lives.
24:28
You got to cut the head of the snake off and the head of the snake is wrong.
24:31
So you can totally annihilate Hamas.
24:34
Hamas is an actor that's a size of a single garden snake when there's a pit of vipers
24:45
over in the corner.
24:47
Hamas is just a point of convenience for Iran.
24:52
Iran is the head of the snake and if you're going to eliminate those that are sponsoring
24:59
the world on terror right now, it's not even questionable who that person is and it's Iran.
25:07
Okay.
25:08
So yeah, I'll accept that of course.
25:11
But what the hell do you do with Iran?
25:12
Because obviously we saw the people in Tehran, they're there in their government facility
25:16
as these attacks are taking place and they're chanting death to America, death to Israel
25:20
kill the Jews.
25:22
And you know, again, a lot's been made about this and rightfully so that two weeks before
25:26
this attack, the Biden administration releases $6 million in supposed aid funds that was
25:31
going to be handled by Qatar, which I don't think we can fully trust, but that's just
25:34
my opinion.
25:35
But we allow them to control this aid funding.
25:37
Everybody knows that money is fungible and so it's like, well, yeah, hey, don't use this
25:41
money to kill Jews.
25:42
It's like, okay, we won't use that money to kill Jews.
25:44
We'll just have saved this amount of money to where we can use our own funds to kill Jews.
25:49
But how in the world do you deal with the Iran problem while at the same time understanding
25:54
that they hate Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia was close to establishing, you know, ties with
26:00
Israel or at least, you know, normalizing relations with Israel that people don't fully
26:04
understand the Sunni Shia, you know, Muslim divide, they don't really understand all that.
26:10
Like I'm absolutely out of loss with how in the world you deal with the head of the snake.
26:16
You know, you had to go through the economic side of it.
26:20
You don't want to invade Iran.
26:22
I really will say that because then what happened?
26:24
So we topple Iran, we saw underneath the Biden and Obama, Biden and Hillary Clinton time
26:32
when they had the spring of fence and they were toppling all these world leaders in the
26:37
Middle East, how well that's worked out has been been completely, I mean, complete disaster.
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So if you went into Iran, do we really want to take that responsibility on?
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I'd say no.
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But what you can do is you can do the same thing that Trump did is you isolate them,
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you squeeze them, you make them, you destroy their economy.
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When the Biden administration came in, they released a lot of the sanctions that was put
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on them and wasn't allowing them to trade oil on open markets.
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And they were having to trade them on black markets, which means that they were selling
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it way below what crude costs was.
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As of this year alone, they've already sold $800 billion worth of oil on the open market.
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They're selling it for, in some cases, actually above crude prices.
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And then they have the sanctions that was put on them for trade with food, with supplies
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going in and out of the country, with materials, such as material being sold to Russia right
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now for the war on Ukraine.
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We can isolate them almost completely to where they only have goat trails and donkey
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trails to build and get products in and out of their country.
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And then you allow the people to decide if that's the regime they want to keep in place.
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If you remember during the Trump administration, the people were getting very restless in Iran.
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They were riding, they were standing up against them.
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Even when Biden came in, they started standing up still yet.
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And then as the country became a little more wealthy, they were able to buy people off,
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and the world kind of turned a blind eye to it.
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So you're going to have to squeeze them into submission.
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Okay, yeah, I like that, and that gives me better ideas as to what we can potentially
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do there.
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Before we get you out of here, I got to ask you about this story, and we talked a little
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bit about it last time.
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I hate this story.
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I think this story is so stupid.
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But the house doesn't have a speaker right now, because Matt Gates decided to run in
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there with her grenade, and he is exactly what the Joker described in the dark night.
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He's a dog that finally catches the car, but then he doesn't know what to do with it once
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he's actually gotten it, right?
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And so they get Kevin McCarthy out of office great, but then they have no freaking plan
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from there.
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Then you have Steve Scalise, who kind of wins this behind closed door straw poll.
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He comes up realizes that he's not going to be able to get the votes.
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He takes himself out of the running.
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Now you have Representative Jim Jordan, that as of right now, this morning, he's thinking
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that he's going to get the votes to be able to become the Speaker of the House.
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There's some people thinking that the Democrats and the Republicans are just going to come
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to some agreement to keep with the pro temp or whatever, like in place right now, and basically
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he has no power, but he's just going to be like, I don't know, a figurehead until they
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can get this whole thing figured out so that we can work with Israel and blah, blah, blah.
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This feels like the biggest unforced error for Republicans right now, because the Democrats
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look so bad Biden looks so weak.
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And here we are talking about Republicans that just can't get along and play nice.
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These people that are rhino hunting, I don't understand these people.
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These prominent conservative commentators coming out, yeah, get all these rhinos out
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there.
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And if you don't like the people we're for, then get out, it's like, great.
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That's step one.
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What about step two guys?
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So what's your read of this situation?
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Well, first of all, that's a lot to unpack their Kyle.
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So let's hit the rhino part of it first.
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These individuals, they go out and they accuse me rhinos first.
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They represent districts that Matt Gates could never be able to get elected in.
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They represent districts that I couldn't get elected in, right?
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So I would rather have a Republican that will vote with me 80% of the time than a Democrat
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that's going to vote away from me 100% of the time.
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So you have to make that decision.
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We, Oklahoma is unique, but a Democrat in New York faces a different challenge as the
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same thing than a Republican from New York does.
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And a Republican from California is going to face a different constituent base than Tom
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Cole does in Oklahoma City, or Stephanie Bistas in Oklahoma City.
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So you got to understand that the ones that we like to call rhinos, a lot of times they're
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the majority makers.
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They're the ones that keep the gavel out of Nancy Pelosi's hands or takes the gavel away
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from Chuck Schumer.
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So you got to figure out what you want there.
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You talk about somebody like Matt Gates.
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Matt Gates isn't a Republican.
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Matt Gates isn't about principle.
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Matt Gates isn't about policy.
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Matt Gates is about self-promotion.
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It's about himself.
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And the same thing with Tim Burchett, the same thing with Ken Buck, the same thing with
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Bob Goode, Andy Biggs, you know, I can name all eight of them.
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And these are individuals, they were, they literally worked with 208 Democrats to oust
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the Republican speaker with no contingency plans.
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They just, they did it because they wanted to be on CNN.
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That was it.
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They just wanted an opportunity to have fame.
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And I say it here all the time, people hurt you a lot to gain themselves a little.
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But since this has taken place, what have we missed?
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What's the opportunities that because of this, this rogue group of eight Republicans
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working with 208 Democrats to oust the Republican speaker for the first time a speaker has ever
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been ousted in history.
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What happened?
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Well, we had Hamas attack Israel, we've allowed ourselves, the Republicans to be irrelevant
32:18
in the conversation because Speaker McCarthy was the only Republican voice we had out there.
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Completely irrelevant.
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You've seen Joe Biden's number now jump by 4% because they seem to be strong on Israel
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and Republican is being quiet on it.
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You've seen AOC in the squad to leave Omar Bennett.
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You see these individuals go out there and side with Hamas and we should have been immediately
32:50
taking a resolution to the floor to censor them and we wouldn't and we would have put
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the Democrats in a very tough position.
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Do they censor their own or do they do they vote with the Democrats?
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That's typically they vote together and they would have had to, probably a lot of them would
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have voted to not censor, but instead you allowed the White House to come out and condemn them.
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Once again, lost a huge opportunity that we may not recover from and we still don't have
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a speaker as we speak, although today I do believe Kyle that Jim Jordan will get the
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votes.
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He's the floor without the votes, right now he'll hit the first vote.
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He may have to go two or three.
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He may get it on the first one.
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As of right now he's about 10 away from getting there.
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I talked to him this morning, talked to him last night, talked to him yesterday and he
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feels confident he's going to get there.
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I've been talking to his whip team.
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They feel very confident they're going to get there.
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I would be real surprised by the end of the day if we don't have a Republican speaker
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in place, but we've already missed the opportunity.
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It's really hard to go back now and censor the squad.
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It's really hard now to get in front of the Biden administration on this.
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We've lost golden opportunities here.
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Golden opportunities and momentum.
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The toothpaste is out of the tube and again, guys, we're recording this on Tuesday.
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The morning of Tuesday, October the 17th, so by the time you hear this, hopefully this
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will be resolved.
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I would be thrilled if Jim Jordan gets in.
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I think he would be a fantastic speaker.
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The one last question before you go, the reason why McCarthy was able to be ousted so easily
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was because in order to gain the speakership, he did some sort of deal with whatever they
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call themselves, the freedom caucus, the dork squad, whatever they call themselves.
34:44
But is that going to be something that is not going to be part of this?
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Because I don't want us to be a few months down the road, these handful of idiots don't
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like what Jim Jordan's saying or doing, and then they just oust him like they did McCarthy.
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Well, so what you're referring to is the motion of vacate.
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It's a rule that's been put in place for decades and decades and decades, or any member
35:07
of the majority party, actually any member of the House period, but usually it comes from
35:14
majority party, could put out a motion of vacate and enforce a vote on the speaker.
35:23
What happened when Pelosi got in place, she changed the rule to where it had to be the
35:28
majority of the majority to be able to do that.
35:32
Because remember, she just barely made the vote to begin with.
35:35
And so she changed the House rule that the majority of the majority had to put out the
35:38
motion of vacate before it was able to come to the floor as a resolution.
35:46
McCarthy was going to leave it in place.
35:48
The Freedom Caucus, specifically Matt Gaetz said no, then because this was his plan all
35:53
along, then he said, "Okay, then let's do 30% of the caucus, let's do 20% of the caucus.
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Let's have five members.
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It takes eight members.
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Matt Gaetz was persistent on saying one.
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He wants to take it back to one."
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And by the way, Lauren Bobert was there too.
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Lauren Bobert did not vote to vacate the chair, by the way.
36:17
But he was like, "We want one in there," because this was Matt Gaetz's way to get back to
36:22
fame, to throw a punch or to just state the facts, whichever way you want to interpret
36:27
it.
36:28
Matt Gaetz was a very popular member when he first came to Congress because he's got
36:32
a silver tongue.
36:33
The guy can speak well, and he can articulate very, obviously, a lot better than I can.
36:40
The problem was that he was about ready to sign a deal with Newsmax to be a host for
36:45
them, and he was going to leave Congress.
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I know this because he's personally told me this.
36:50
But he got accused of sleeping with an underage girl and went through all the investigation
36:55
for it.
36:56
And the news media wouldn't touch him.
36:57
He became very irrelevant.
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No one will touch him.
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You didn't see him on Fox.
37:01
You didn't see him on News Nation.
37:02
You didn't see him on Newsmax.
37:03
You didn't see him anywhere.
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And until November, when he started opposing Speaker McCarthy as the speaker.
37:13
And then he rode that horse as far as he can ride it.
37:17
And now he's now soon when Jim Jordan becomes in office, we'll see if Matt Gaetz still
37:23
stays relevant.
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I don't believe he will though.
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I just got to tell you, Mark, Wayne, everything seems really stupid, but I'm really appreciative
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that you come on here to talk about all the stupid things.
37:31
But hey, next time we're something different.
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Okay.
37:35
This is more.
37:36
We're 20.
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And just remember your Danny Evito, I'm our unsportionator.
37:40
Just keep that in mind.
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I never agreed to that whatsoever that I'm talking about.
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Okay.
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Hopefully the same size.
37:47
Okay.
37:48
I'm not going to make you show me the guns unless you wanted to right now because I'm
37:51
ready to take everyone to the gun show if you need to.
37:53
Is that a long living neck?
37:55
No, a short sleeve.
37:57
Let's see him.
37:58
Let's see him.
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Mark Wayne.
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Let's see.
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Oh, guys, if you're not watching this on YouTube or rumble right now, you are massively missing
38:05
out.
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Mark Wayne, I appreciate it.
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We'll talk to you next month.
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All right.
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See you brother.
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