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This is Undaunted Life a Man's Podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson, let's get into it.
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Mark Wayne Mullen.
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Welcome back to the show.
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It's been a couple of months.
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I know nothing's been going on.
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But before we get to the nothing that's been happening in the news cycle, what exactly is
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going on behind you?
1:36
Is that like a tour bus?
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Is that like an America Patriot tour bus?
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What's going on there?
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It actually is.
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And no, I'm not on tour, absolutely not.
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This is in my shop.
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This is our big motor coach in our shop.
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My wife decided to remodel the kitchen before Thanksgiving.
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So there's a bunch of stuff going on in my office was absolutely loud as it could be.
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But on the back, this bus is a big oleagle on the back of it, a screaming eagle like this.
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And it's a seal and you'd recognize the seal if I've seen it, but I don't go to show people
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because I'm not sure if I actually got the correct trademark to be able to use it.
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Okay.
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And you know, you know, if you're trying to road that, we don't want people knowing that
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that's you in there.
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You know, I had a screening company of mine that owns a company that he says, I can absolutely
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put that on there for you.
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I got pulled over by a by a trooper in Pennsylvania because I was on the road.
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I was either on the plane or in this thing campaigning for, you know, Trump or the senators.
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I mean, I was all over the place from August till November 4th.
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I was all over the place.
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And so I literally I was either flying or driving and I got pulled over in Pennsylvania
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and I was driving a little fast, not not probably not fast enough to get a ticket, but I was
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driving over the speed limit.
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But under, you know, I give myself a 10, 10 mile window.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, not I don't do that in town, but on interstates, I kind of give myself that
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10 mile, you know, if it's 75, I won't do 85.
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Well, actually I will, but not in this.
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I'll do like 80.
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And if it's 70, I may do 76, 77.
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And you know, and I was doing about that 77 mark and he pulled me over and he goes, you
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know, I'm normally wouldn't pull you over.
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He says, but this is cool.
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I just want to look at it.
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That's all.
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That's all he said.
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He didn't give me a warning.
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He didn't do.
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He didn't do anything.
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He says, now who are you?
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Because you got to be somebody to be driving this thing like, like this.
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Well, all I know is I need to borrow it.
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So we're going to figure that out and send me a picture of the seal.
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So we're going to have to make that happen.
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But let's let's actually go back to November the 4th.
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So watch this.
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Go back to the end of October.
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So I talked to you at the end of October and I was trying to like, Hey, man, how you
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feeling about the general?
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How you feeling about the presidential?
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And the thing is, is you were not pessimistic nor were you optimistic because you were just
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like everybody else, you were, you were confident, you were hopeful, but you didn't know.
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And going into Tuesday, November the 5th, I had no stress whatsoever in my body, like
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at all, other than just trying to get through the line to vote because I was like, there's
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no way that we're going to know today.
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It's like there may be no way we're going to know what happened in these elections like
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a week from now.
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And I had been saying this as much on the show, but then fast forward, not only did
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the Republicans retain the United States House representatives, albeit by a narrow margin,
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they took over the United States Senate where you serve.
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So there's a three seat majority in that, in that chamber now, and then a sweeping and
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overwhelming victory for Donald Trump who won every single one of the swing states and
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he won every single state that requires a photo ID in order to vote.
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Isn't that so interesting?
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And so let's just start there.
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I mean, 312 electoral college votes, several million votes in the popular vote.
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And everyone's trying to pretend a lot of conservative commentators, Mark Wayne are trying
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to pretend like, oh, yeah, I knew that was going to happen.
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This was always going to happen.
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It's like, no, you didn't.
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You're a liar in the thief.
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So let's just go through that.
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What did you think beforehand?
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And what did you think of the results?
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Yeah.
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So we were confident, but we're also confident November, November of 2022.
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Right.
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Right.
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We knew our numbers, we hadn't actually got official exit polling yet on November 4th,
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but we knew the numbers were high and we knew that we were seeing numbers that were going
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into counties that were our counties that were higher than expected.
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So there were some people that said low turnout is positive for Trump.
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We in the Trump world knew that high turnout is good for us.
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And sure enough, when we started seeing the record numbers on early voting coming in,
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especially Thursday, Friday and Saturday before the election, then we were doing our own exit
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polling at battleground states and especially battleground states counties.
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So we were that specific and then even getting more specific battleground counties inside
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the precinct and our exit polling was we, we felt like we were going to have a good night.
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Our models were shooting for 270.
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We had models that were showing up to high as as 300, but no one believed that.
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We were actually thinking, you know, good night, 280.
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We were preparing to, and I'm not, not joking when I say this, we had eight planes and two
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more in reserve to dispatch attorneys all over the country, waiting to go.
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I mean, they were, they were staged, ready to field up, pilots ready, everybody had their
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bags packed, ready to dispatch.
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We felt like the election, there was going to be a good chance the election is going to
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be called Friday morning, but we were confident we were going to be at the top of that.
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And when it fast forward to November, November 5th, the president goes and votes, you know,
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we had a late night, November 4th, everybody did, everybody that was campaigning.
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The president was a freaking machine, Kyle, I can go, man, I have, well, I have went my
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longest stint with little to no sleep as I went 10 days one time when I was overseas
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and I averaged 45 minutes of sleep for 10 days.
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And we were in a pretty hot zone, you know, it was pretty, it was, you know, obviously
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we'd love to slap, but it didn't happen.
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And I was smoked, I was smoked, and so I know I can push myself.
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I've went, I've been 72 hours without sleep multiple times, and I've been 50 hours on
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regular basis.
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Shoot, I did 40 hours just last week with no sleep.
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So I can push and I can function pretty good with no sleep.
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But I get very like this, like my wife says, I get monotone, I get extremely focused.
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There is, I'm not friendly and I'm not angry.
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I'm just job focused.
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Yeah.
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We would go days with going, we would get to the hotel at, let's say, at, hang on a second,
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my thing's trying to update on me for some reason.
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Get out of here, Apple or Microsoft is saying quit and update.
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So I don't want to do that.
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Don't do that.
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Just keep going.
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This thing out of your face.
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Well, I can just move myself.
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Yeah.
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No, it is literally plastered right on your face and it's saying this, this is an important
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update.
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Wait for notifications.
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It's not.
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It's not an important update.
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It's the Russians.
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You just keep going.
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You just, you know, hands of my lips.
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You got to all, you got to work with your hands because it is plastered on your face
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and I cannot move you.
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I got it.
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Let me see.
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I'm going to try it out of there.
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That's stress.
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Yeah, a little bit.
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That helps.
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There I am.
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So.
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You got the hotel late.
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Yeah.
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So when we were, we would, we would, there was days we'd get to the hotel on often, we'd
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get there at midnight and be in the motorcade by 5 30 or 6 30 headed to the plane day after
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day after day after day, President Trump would get on the plane on Trump force one.
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He would immediately start making phone calls and do tele town hall meetings all over the
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country.
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He would hit three to four rallies a day and at the same time he was doing hundreds of
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phone calls.
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His plane wasn't, you said on the plane, you wait till you get there.
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His plane was a full functioning working office.
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There's people around here with two or three phones constantly handed to him.
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He would read a stack of papers like this every single day.
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And he was circle.
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He had put out information.
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He would say, Hey, get this guy on the phone.
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He was putting out true socials, all the, all the true social stuff you see go out on
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him.
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That's him.
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That is him doing that.
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He'd be calling Elon or he'd be calling somebody.
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He was, he was constantly constantly dictating what's going on one time a day, one time a
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day.
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I'd see him do this.
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For five minutes, you can set your freaking clock to it.
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And he would come up and he would immediately start going right back to work.
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Never lost energy, never lost personality, never lost the energetic push and everybody
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on the whole team work that way.
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It was phenomenal.
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I would spend three days with him.
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I would be smoked brother.
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I'm talking about, I would feel so bad for just being absolutely smoked and he would
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do this day after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day.
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After the RNC, a convention, he never took a day off.
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He was on the road every single day.
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He was doing dinners almost every night.
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He was either spending a night in a hotel or he'd go back to Marlago when he'd go back
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to Marlago's because he had an event there and he would hit the road early the next morning
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and hit at least three conventions.
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And on the final day, November 4th, he hit five conventions, finished, got back to Marlago
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about 5 a.m., got up, voted at 10, or 10.30, well, that was scheduled, but he was a little
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late to that.
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And then everything went in right into election campaign and when going back to that, Kyle,
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we saw the numbers start floating in.
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We saw that we were when the exit polling, true exit polling on Tuesday started coming
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in and the early voting started rolling and they started counting them.
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We knew we were going to win.
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At 10.30 at night, we got a call from, we had a call from North Carolina, from Pennsylvania
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and from Georgia that we were winning the States.
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We were winning them.
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Like we were going to win it.
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There was no way, there was no chance, there was enough ballots out there for them to catch
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us.
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That was at 10.30.
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If you go back and you look at Fox News, you'll see Sean Hannity around 10.30, now this is
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Eastern Standard Time, around 10.30, so it'd be 9.30 here.
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Sean said made a prediction before the panel changed that President Trump was going to
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win Georgia, North Carolina, and in Pennsylvania and essentially the race is over.
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We knew soon as those came in, race is over.
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Sean said that at 10.30, Fox or no one else would call, shoot, I don't think CNN would
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call it until they were really late.
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MSNBC, I don't know if they ever did call it, but we knew 10.30 Friday night, that there
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was not Friday night, Tuesday night, there was zero chance that she could catch us.
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At that point, we felt very confident that Wisconsin was going to come in for us and that
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Michigan was going to come in for us.
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We already knew we were going to win Nevada, we felt very good about Arizona, but when
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we won Pennsylvania the way we did, right, we were like, Oh my Lord, we're going to sweep
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all these.
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We could actually sweep all these.
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And then we started saying we're going to win a popular vote, not just like for a vote.
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Holy crap, we're going to pass 300.
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And we were just ecstatic, but all these other people that want to go out there and said
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they knew it all along, they are, they're, they're, they're full of my septic tank.
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Hey, well, I'll say this as well.
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I did have this feeling because I remember back on on election night, 2020, everything
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looked good.
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Like I don't watch the polls.
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I watched Vegas because Vegas doesn't like losing money.
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And so he came into the night as a favorite.
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But as the night went on in 2020, he was like a minus 400 favorite, minus 1000 favorite.
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And then he got to like minus 10,000.
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It's like, Oh my gosh, let's go to bed.
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This is over.
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And then you wake up and it's like, wait a minute.
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He lost Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and like, wait, when the world happened.
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And so that's what I expected to wake up to the next day, Mark Wayne with this time around.
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So what our point was going into the election and the whole Trump team, and let me tell you,
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President Trump never would talk about winning the election.
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Never.
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I'm telling you, never would talk about winning the election.
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He wouldn't even discuss the transition team.
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He wouldn't discuss anything like when people started saying he, his only questions were,
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can we win?
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He'd ask that over and over again.
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Can we win?
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Can we win?
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How we looking?
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How we looking?
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That's what he would ask every day multiple.
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He would, he would want to know.
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He would, he would break it down to counties because he knew the counties he had to win
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in the battleground states.
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And he would go, he was, he was taking the fight to them.
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I mean, we were in deer fear of Michigan.
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When I knew we were going to, when I knew we were going to win, just didn't know the
16:37
margins of it, was when we were in Deerfield, Michigan, high, high Muslim population.
16:45
The mayor and the city council and everybody was there, heavy Muslim population turned
16:52
out, it was like a, a coming home parade for President Trump.
16:57
There was people lined up all over the street.
17:00
We went into a, to a, to a cafe and you couldn't, I couldn't believe the secret service led
17:05
him in there.
17:06
It was astounding and no one was booing him.
17:11
Not to mention the week before I, or the weekend before we were in Madison Square Garden.
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I was walking around downtown New York and it was nothing but MAGA hats.
17:22
There was no, there was no anger.
17:24
There was a few protesters, but I'm going to say a few pro protesters.
17:27
If there was one in 20 protesters, one, or one per 20 MAGA supporters, 20 protesters,
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one, I'd been shot and I was, I just couldn't believe it.
17:37
I was like, are we really seeing this?
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I mean, Mark, Mark Wayne, let's go back to Dearborn, Dearborn, Michigan.
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You've got.
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That's a Deerfield.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't matter.
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Dearborn.
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There probably is a deer field.
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He's in this weekend.
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Hey, where do you think I'm going the moment I hang up on this call, Mark Wayne?
17:55
But when you go back there, that's why Kamala Harris didn't select Governor Shapiro of
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Pennsylvania is because she was afraid of people in Dearborn, Michigan basically being
18:05
like, well, you can't have a Jew on the ticket because then all the Muslims are going to
18:08
hate you.
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So she goes with this, this doofus from Minnesota, Tim Walz, and they still didn't break for
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her in Michigan.
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It was, it was just unbelievable and hilarious at the same time.
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Well, Trump won one Tim's hometown in Michigan.
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Did you know that?
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Did you see that?
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I did not see that.
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But that is.
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Yeah.
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And Trump beat Tim Walz in his own town and his own county.
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This is why I'm saying he ran such, President Trump was so focused of taking the fight everywhere
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they were at.
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He didn't think there was one area that was off or out of bounds for him.
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I mean, going to San Francisco, going to L.A., going to the closing weeks of the election.
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Yeah.
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Dear, dear, Dearborn, Michigan.
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I mean, he was going everywhere.
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It was, and so we, the momentum was so great.
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It was hard for me to see how we couldn't win, but we were just, we were shocked.
19:07
But my whole point was the whole point of the campaign was is we were, we were saying
19:12
too big to rig.
19:14
That's what we were saying all the time, too big to rig.
19:16
We knew that if we were four to five percentage points ahead of her, it was too big for them
19:22
to stuff ballots.
19:24
There was no way they could do that much.
19:26
One, two, even three percentage, there's a, there's a way that there could be things
19:30
that could be done that we had had very interesting conversations with people on.
19:37
I will tell you that there was a lot of people inside the intelligence community that was
19:40
being very fair in this one and was watching everything that was going on.
19:45
But we knew that if we were, if we were four or five points, especially five, but we knew
19:50
if we were four or five points, they, there was no way that they could do what they did
19:56
and let people go to bed at night and wake up with different results the next day.
20:01
So we, it, I mean, that's why he put absolutely everything into it.
20:06
JD, Elon, Bobby Kennedy, Tulsi, all of the surrogates.
20:12
So I'm not saying I'd like care to invite, I'm nobody, but, but I mean, we went, we went
20:16
over it, just, I'll just use this, for example, present Trump wasn't for sure we could win
20:21
Indian country.
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And so him and I had a long conversation about it.
20:24
And he says, he says, I don't, we've never been at a winning Indian country.
20:27
I said, sir, I disagree with that because you've won all 77 counties in Oklahoma every,
20:34
every time you've, and Oklahoma has a highest population, concentration population of Native
20:41
Americans, any place in the country.
20:43
And so you can do it if we just will show them a little love.
20:46
So that's when he said, okay, fine.
20:48
He put Bobby here, he put junior myself and Tulsi on it.
20:52
And then of course we went to Albuquerque and Arizona and North Carolina and the last week
20:59
of doing, doing, doing specifically outreaches to Native Americans.
21:07
He won the Native American vote by 64 points.
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Last time a Republican has carried that since Nixon, I had no idea.
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Yeah, I did.
21:17
That's incredible.
21:18
And by the way, those are all in battleground states.
21:20
And that's what I said.
21:21
If we can get one or two percentage points ahead in Indian country, that might be enough
21:27
for us to build a win the state.
21:28
He won it by 64%.
21:31
I was like, whoa, sir, I didn't even, I didn't expect him.
21:36
So okay, let's talk about this because the word that I got is mandate, that that's basically
21:43
what I got because the American public gave the Republican party a mandate saying, we
21:48
so much believe in your vision over the vision coming out of the DNC and coming out of whatever
21:53
Kamala Harris is currently saying, you know, basically whatever comes out, I had a vision.
21:58
So whatever.
21:59
Well, the vision was that she was born in a middle class family.
22:01
I didn't know if you knew that or not, but she was raised in a middle class family and
22:05
then, you know, whatever, whatever after that.
22:07
But here we are, we're past, you know, we're past these ideas.
22:12
You've been given a mandate.
22:14
So now everyone's like, okay, what's what are the Republicans going to do for the next
22:18
two years where they are guaranteed control of both chambers of Congress, but also the
22:22
White House.
22:24
And then also there's a lot of focus on Donald Trump's first hundred days.
22:27
Okay.
22:28
So we are no longer burdened by what has been, but now it's like what in the world is coming.
22:32
And so that's, that's what everybody's asking is like, okay, if you had barely won, if you
22:37
had squeaked it out, if you had lost the popular vote, but won the electoral college, maybe
22:42
you don't push as hard on some of these issues.
22:44
But it seems like the American public is like, no, shut down the border, get the terrorists
22:48
and the criminals out of our country, enough with boys playing in girl sports and all these
22:53
other things.
22:54
But now what in the world are you guys going to do with it?
22:56
With this mandate?
22:57
You know, and before we can even move, we have to get confirmations done.
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Okay.
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Don't worry.
23:04
We'll get there.
23:05
I got questions.
23:06
And so, but I'm just saying, so if you start talking about the mandate, what was the mandate?
23:09
Secure the border, energy independence, get the economy back on track and stop the wars.
23:16
Right?
23:17
That's pretty much the, that's pretty much the list.
23:19
Would you consider that?
23:20
So if you notice, let's start from the bottom.
23:22
If you notice right after President Trump won the election, Qatar kicked out Hamas, said
23:29
Lee.
23:30
Immediately.
23:31
Right.
23:32
Yeah.
23:33
And, and Hamas said they're ready to negotiate, which, you know, it's a terrorist organization.
23:38
You take what they say, not even with a grain of salt, you take and go, it doesn't work.
23:42
Right?
23:43
And Crohn is, it's, Crohn tells you it's, it is okay to lie as long as it's in the good
23:48
of Muhammad.
23:50
Right.
23:51
So you can't, you cannot trust anything they say.
23:53
I'm not making that up.
23:54
That's what it says.
23:56
If you, if you look at Ukraine, Russia, Putin came out the next day and said that he was
24:04
open for negotiations.
24:05
Right.
24:06
Now, Alinsky messed up royally, and I was actually with some of his officials this week
24:11
and told them he messed up royally because he supported Biden or Qatar, or not Qatar.
24:18
He supported Kamala and openly endorsed her.
24:21
I said, that was a stupid mistake and he didn't understand politics on American politics.
24:27
But you, so you have, you have Putin now ready to negotiate.
24:31
You have President Xi who hasn't said anything, but at the G 20 summit, he laid out seven things
24:37
that he wanted Biden to do and understand what he was saying.
24:42
And one of those things was that he doesn't fear the United States.
24:44
Okay.
24:45
You will.
24:46
Yeah.
24:47
And he knows better.
24:49
He doesn't fear.
24:50
He may not fear the Biden administration, but I promise you, he fears the Trump administration.
24:57
And so we have a lot to do with the military and to be quite frank, the Biden administration
25:02
is more focused on, you know, diversification and woke agenda in the military than they did
25:08
readiness on the military.
25:10
That has already changed.
25:11
I cannot even begin to tell you how many generals were in my office.
25:15
And I'm talking about four star generals that was in my office this week.
25:18
I've already spoke to two this morning by phone because they understand what's happening.
25:24
So we're working on that one.
25:27
Number number three, if I, if I was talking about, if I remember about it, we talked about
25:31
energy independence drill, baby drill is, is, is in, is in work, Lee Zelden, who's going
25:39
to be, they're going to be confirmed for the director of EPA, him and I have had multiple
25:43
conversations about the EPA's overreach.
25:45
We started a bipartisan work group.
25:47
There's a, there's a group of Democrats that understand that woke took them to this place.
25:52
They understand that the EPA is hindering everything that they, they're, they're trying
25:56
to do.
25:57
We have to really take a hard look at the EPA and say, how far have they over reached?
26:01
You cannot.
26:02
There's not one agency out there that's part of developing our economy that the EPA isn't
26:08
involved in, my thing and what I've been talking to, Lee and, and the, the Trump team about
26:13
is if, if the EPA has been there doing that, which they have, they shut down every project
26:19
around the country, you can't even start manufacturing because you can't get approval.
26:23
I can go down a rabbit hole in that one, but, but one of the issues that we have to have
26:27
is that EPA should be able to advise, but they can't stop.
26:32
The final say in these agencies, the reason why these agencies are in place are because
26:37
they're looking out specifically for that, for whatever is in their agency.
26:42
So say the Department of Interior wants to do something on public lands, they should be
26:46
able to do that.
26:47
They can, they can consult with the EPA, but the EPA should only build a advise, not stop
26:52
a project.
26:53
They should only build advice.
26:55
That's it.
26:56
At the end of the day, it should fall within the jurisdiction of Interior or Department of
27:00
Energy or Department of Transportation or the Department of Commerce, when you start talking
27:04
about, when you start talking about manufacturing and stuff coming in.
27:08
And so we have to kind of look at how we do that and restructure it, because right now
27:12
it is impossible the way those agencies are set up for the President Trump to deliver
27:17
on the fast pace that he needs to do because he can, he can get, he can get the approval
27:22
to do it, but it'll take two years to get the projects to drill baby drill to get them
27:27
approved for the permitting process.
27:29
That's crazy.
27:30
But it worked to get a pipeline and you can drill baby drill.
27:32
But if you don't have the pipelines in place to get the project, to get the material from
27:36
point A to point B, it doesn't, it doesn't matter.
27:39
That's why flaring exists.
27:41
Flaring doesn't exist because we want to light the sky, flaring exists because there's
27:44
no way to get the gas out to the market and because there's no pipelines.
27:50
So the option, the only option is you can't capture it and re-inject it in the ground.
27:54
You have to flare it.
27:56
If they could capture it and put it into market, of course they would rather do that, but you
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can't build a pipeline to do it.
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So we got to do the infrastructure.
28:03
Number three, when you start talking about the economy, the economy can easily be moved
28:08
in.
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It already has.
28:10
You saw what happened to the start market.
28:11
You saw the investment on back into it immediately.
28:13
The start market or the economy just needs a surety that the regulatory environment is
28:19
going to be consistent moving forward and they're going to work with administration
28:22
that's going to start with yes and try to get them to the place of construction.
28:29
But you're working with the Biden administration as they started with no and you had to force
28:32
them to get to yes.
28:34
And that was impossible to do it.
28:36
So a lot of companies left.
28:37
So just the confidence that you have a business guy running the White House that understands
28:43
research and development, understands investment, understands the economy, understands that
28:48
Washington DC doesn't create jobs, but job creators keep great jobs and that Washington's
28:53
position is not to create those jobs, but to create an opportunity for entrepreneurs
28:57
to do that.
28:59
And that's not what you dealt with it with in control of the Democrat Party.
29:02
That's already taking place.
29:05
Secure in the border.
29:07
There are some immediate levers that the president will put in place from the day he's in office
29:11
that you will see that go into place.
29:13
But there are some things that we can do on top of that.
29:16
One would be on top of what the president can do.
29:19
One, the Congress being the Senate in the House can reassure because the law exists, but
29:26
reassure that the president has the authority to do this is that you cannot claim asylum
29:31
to the United States from another country.
29:35
If you're moving through Texas or moving through Mexico or Canada, because we have a rule already
29:41
or law already in place, actually law in agreement already in place with Mexico and with Canada.
29:48
It's called the first country of entry.
29:50
And that means the first if you're traveling from a other from another country entering
29:54
their country, you only can claim asylum in that country.
29:58
You cannot claim asylum inside the United States or vice versa unless you're a citizen
30:03
of that country.
30:05
So all these individuals that's moving up from South America or the Middle East, 160
30:10
other countries that claim asylum inside the United States on the Mexican border immediately
30:15
could be could be stopped.
30:16
The agreement's already in place.
30:17
We just have to reassure the cover that the president of the United States have it.
30:21
That would we only average about 1600 Mexican citizens crossing our border right now claiming
30:29
asylum a month.
30:33
Almost all these other ones are from other countries.
30:34
That's why you see those migration trains, right?
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So immediately you just that would stop it.
30:38
Second, what you do is put in there that they cannot claim asylum unless they're entering
30:43
a legal point of entry.
30:46
That's right.
30:47
All the drug smuggling that's happening now on the outside of the legal port of entry,
30:54
we could focus just on that rather than humanitarian.
30:57
The Biden administration put an emphasis on humanitarian and it's over drugs.
31:02
So if they encountered illegals, they would take the care of the county of the illegals
31:08
and leave the drug roots wide open.
31:11
That makes sense.
31:12
But since they can no longer claim that they can't they can't overwhelm the border control
31:18
their border agencies because the people will they will just literally be pushed back across
31:22
the border.
31:23
So that's not our problem.
31:24
It's Mexico's problem.
31:25
And then when you start that was number one.
31:29
So there you go.
31:30
We background all the way through it.
31:31
So borders all the way through when I appreciate getting into all those different details and
31:35
again, we'll have plenty of time in the months ahead to to continue to kind of unpack this.
31:39
But you're right.
31:40
We do need to talk about the appointment fights that are going to be coming for United States
31:44
Senate because of the cabinet position.
31:45
So there there's been a lot of amazing like I've never I've never remembered a time where
31:51
you get your guy that you vote for an office and then you immediately start getting these
31:54
releases of these people and like every day it was like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe so
31:58
Rubio for Secretary of State, Susie Wiles for Chief of Staff, Pete Hegcess, Secretary
32:02
of Defense, Tom home and borders are RFK Jr. Health and Human Services, hilarious, Tulsi
32:07
Gabbard, Director of National Intelligence, also hilarious, Elise Stefanik, UN Ambassador,
32:12
Doug Bergam, Secretary of the Interior.
32:14
You've already talked about Zelda.
32:15
The one head scratcher was Matt Gaetz for Attorney General.
32:18
He pulled himself out of consideration and there's a lot of, you know, I was it because
32:23
of the house investigation?
32:25
Was it because there were senators that weren't going to jump on board?
32:27
But then immediately Trump was ready to go with Pam Bondi.
32:29
So just talk to me about the fights about are we going to be able to get these appointments
32:35
done via the recess process?
32:37
And then also if you can give us maybe a behind the scenes look, were there really like four
32:41
or five holdouts on Matt Gaetz and Matt Gaetz just kind of realized like, all right, this
32:45
is, this is kind of dumb or kind of what actually happened there?
32:49
Matt Gaetz wasn't going to get confirmed because of Matt Gaetz.
32:52
Okay.
32:53
He had a lot of past.
32:54
There's a lot of past out there that the public isn't aware of.
32:58
It was surprising that President Trump appointed him, but I understood it because President
33:03
wanted a hammer and DOJ, but it was going to be nearly impossible for Matt to get confirmed
33:10
to begin with.
33:11
And then when the report come out, it was even going to be more difficult when there
33:16
was no question that the so there was a conversation about the DOJ, you know, he there was a lot
33:23
of conversation.
33:24
So the DOJ declined charges on him and if he could they could charge him, he would charge
33:28
him if he had a sex with three year investigation, they didn't charge, but understand that that
33:33
the DOJ wasn't investigating if he had sex with a 17 year old.
33:37
That's not the DOJ's position.
33:39
That is state law that's not federal.
33:42
States can have their own, their own age of consent.
33:45
Some states have consent at 16, some are 17, some are as low as I think there's, I think
33:51
there's, I'm not sure on this, so I better not say it because I know, I know California
33:55
was trying to make the consent even below 16.
33:58
I don't know if they actually did or not, but in summer 18 in California, the consent
34:03
is 18.
34:04
What DOJ specifically was investigating was did he, did he sex traffic the individual
34:09
when he had sex with the 17 year old supposedly, did he did the individual get traffic to
34:16
the Bahamas or out of the state for that to take place.
34:19
They couldn't prove that he was actually the one that that took the person.
34:24
It had nothing to do is if the person did or didn't.
34:27
The attorney for, for two of the young ladies that was accused came out openly and said,
34:33
it did happen.
34:35
No question it happened.
34:36
And they had, they had, they had testified from it.
34:38
So Matt Gates was, it was, it was going to be a difficult situation, I'm going to say
34:42
he could.
34:43
Obviously the guy is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
34:45
It's the way it works, but it didn't look good.
34:49
And I think he made the right choice by pulling it, but it had nothing to do with the senators
34:53
not wanting to have, to allow the president to have an AG there is that the senators,
34:59
we have, we have constitutional authority to, and under article two, section two, it says
35:05
that the Senate has the right to advise and we have to consent.
35:10
And so all these emails and text messages and vote, voice calls that I get and people
35:15
were telling me, I demand you to vote for, for, for matter.
35:19
I demand you to do that.
35:21
Well, you can, but I also held my hand up like this and said, I swore to uphold the
35:26
Constitution United States.
35:27
I have a constitutional, a, a job to advise and consent and to do a advise and consent,
35:34
then we have to have oversight and part of the oversight is understanding these individuals.
35:39
The president has the right and I respect the right for him to, to appoint those individuals,
35:45
but we can't neglect our constitutional duty.
35:48
That's why there is a separation of powers.
35:50
And I said from the beginning, I will give Matt Gates, even though it is very documented
35:55
that Matt and I have a lot of differences, but I said from the beginning, I'll give Matt
36:00
a fair shake out of respect for the president.
36:03
I will set the personal stuff to the side because what I said personally about him was
36:07
a hundred percent accurate, wasn't made up, it's a hundred percent accurate.
36:11
But what I, what I said though, is I would set it to the side and I would let the process
36:15
move forward and I am, I'm glad to see that Matt didn't force us to go down this road.
36:22
And I'm extremely thrilled at the new pick with Pam.
36:27
She will be awesome.
36:29
She will, she can be the hammer at DOJ and she will be the hammer.
36:33
She did a phenomenal job as a AG of Florida.
36:36
She combated a lot of the same things that the country is dealing with right now with
36:41
the influx of drugs and the influx of illegals coming into Florida and she did an outstanding
36:46
job.
36:47
So I, I couldn't, I, this pick, I am like thrilled and I, I think we, I think she won't
36:52
have any problem.
36:53
We, we'll build a breeze or right through.
36:54
Are there any people of the ones that I mentioned or the ones that I didn't mention on top of
36:58
my head?
36:59
There's anyone can have any problems.
37:01
You know, Pete could have some problems.
37:04
Right.
37:05
He, um, Matt was his, was his best ally.
37:09
And what I mean by that is because Matt was such a hot topic that it, it took the law of
37:13
the auction out of focusing on Pete, Pete's great, Pete has the ability, uh, he is more
37:20
than qualified to be the sec def.
37:22
People say, is he qualified?
37:23
Yes.
37:24
The sec def is a civilian position.
37:27
You do not have to be in a general and it's typically a civilian, right?
37:31
Yes.
37:32
But we don't want you to be a general generals.
37:34
Take care of generals.
37:35
Right.
37:36
I cannot name a single general that hasn't pulled up other generals behind him.
37:41
You see all, you always see people traveling in threes and fours as they make it all the
37:45
way to the top.
37:46
I can, I can use examples for going back as far as you want me to go back to, to, to
37:51
bush 41 and, uh, and show you that his joint, Jesus staff, his chairman, the joint Jesus
37:58
staff had other generals in place that he pulled up and every single one of them's that
38:02
way.
38:03
So general state care of generals.
38:04
Here you have Pete, who is a major, he is 20 years in, in, in service.
38:11
He's a highly decorated combat veteran and he, he understands how to articulate a message
38:16
because he's a Fox talk show host, right?
38:19
That, that, that is more than able.
38:22
He knows the system and he knows how to articulate itself and he's not walking into, to politics
38:26
with, with his eyes, you know, uh, blurry because he doesn't know what he's walking into.
38:31
He, he's good, this issue with, um, what happened in 2017.
38:37
I had a, I had a great conversation with him yesterday and, uh, and he has a very strong
38:43
case of what actually took place in 2017.
38:47
He's got a strong reason why, what happened, why he decided to settle also, not settle,
38:52
but to have a, a, um, a non-disclosure with her three years later because of the hashtag
38:59
me too, he under, and there's a reason why that took place.
39:04
The, the question is if you read the, if you actually get into it and you read what took
39:09
place that night and, and I would encourage everybody and all your listeners, the, the
39:14
investigation that the, the, um, the city did in California, my name is slipping me what
39:21
the name of the town was now, but, uh, the, the, the investigating report is pretty clear
39:26
about it.
39:27
There's witnesses saying that John Doe or Jane Doe, the lady not mentioned by name and
39:34
her friend was openly flirting with Pete at the bar that night, um, to the point where
39:40
people saw what was going on and even, uh, even said they needed to back off a little
39:45
bit.
39:46
Uh, multiple people was saying that she was being the more aggressor one towards him.
39:51
There is video surveillance of them walking away from the bar and she is holding on arm
39:57
to arm to him.
39:59
There was, uh, obviously a lot of flirting that was going on there that people saw.
40:04
They had a long conversation and some said it was a confrontation.
40:07
Some says it wasn't a confrontation, uh, in the middle of the pool area and staff actually
40:11
came out there to this 130 in the morning.
40:14
And then at four o'clock, she goes back to her room.
40:19
Now to her husband who was in the hotel at the room, my question on that one is, and
40:26
I don't know her, but the question I would say in that case is, um, I, I, your husband's
40:34
with you and you're at the bar and your, your witnesses, other witnesses in this investigation
40:42
is saying that you were openly flirting to the point where it was, it was obvious who
40:46
was being the aggressor there, uh, and, and there, there may be, may not be, but there,
40:53
there may be something else that people need to look into that.
40:56
Maybe there was a pattern there.
40:57
Maybe there wasn't a pattern.
40:58
I don't know, but just because of this one situation, I don't say right now disqualifies
41:03
him.
41:04
I think he is, he has a, when I spoke to him, I was very impressed by what he said and
41:09
very forthcoming.
41:10
And in the report, it said that Pete was extremely forthcoming when he was, when the
41:15
police were talking to him and, and they found him credible.
41:19
So I think, uh, I think he, I think that is going to be a hurdle for him to get over,
41:24
but I think we can get over it and get him confirmed and the, the more I talked to him,
41:29
the more I'm impressed with him.
41:31
So he's the biggest hurdle.
41:34
Second one would probably be Tulsi Gabbard and Tulsi, my sister, you know that I, she
41:39
calls me her brother, I call her my sister, our families are very, very, very close.
41:45
I mean, Abraham, her husband, and I talk regularly, Christy and her talk, my wife, Christy and
41:51
her talk all the time, she's over the reserve, Oklahoma reserve unit as a colonel and her,
41:57
and over the reserve unit in Missouri too.
41:59
So when she comes in, she actually keeps her, her gear here at the house and a closet and
42:04
she stays with us and sometimes Abraham comes in before her and stays with us and so I mean,
42:09
we're very, very close.
42:10
I'm biased here, but I think we'll get her through the Democrats.
42:13
No, none of the Democrats are going to vote for right, but I believe we will get, um,
42:16
I believe we'll get her through at the end of the day.
42:19
Bobby Kennedy, he's got a challenge, but he, we can get him through too.
42:22
And then after that, it's just a breeze.
42:24
I think we'll be fine with everybody else.
42:25
Okay.
42:26
We're a little bit over time.
42:27
So, uh, we'll make this last question today.
42:29
Just quick thoughts.
42:30
Obviously, there was like a little bit of a kerfuffle over who was going to be the cinematurity
42:34
leader.
42:35
Like Rick Scott became like the leader on Twitter.
42:37
Like everybody was like fighting for Rick Scott and then John Cornyn from Texas was up
42:40
there as well.
42:41
But then obviously John Thune, who you supported, uh, who eventually, you know, won the nomination
42:45
as cinematurity leader out of South Dakota, he, he was brought in, tell me a little bit
42:49
about what was actually going on behind the scenes because I remember people that were
42:52
so up in arms that Rick Scott wasn't the guy.
42:54
But then when I talked to you privately, you're like, God, Rick Scott was never going to be
42:57
the guy.
42:58
It was always going to be Thune.
42:59
So just give us, give the audience a little bit of a perspective.
43:02
Again, this is one of those things I get phone calls in my office and in social media and
43:06
all this stuff.
43:07
I demand you.
43:08
I demand you.
43:09
You know, by the way, that doesn't help.
43:11
Don't mean that doesn't make me out.
43:13
That's, that doesn't, I got a job to do still yet.
43:17
And there's a lot more that happens that unfortunately everybody doesn't get to see.
43:21
And there's always multiple sides of the story, but definitely two.
43:25
So you have to, you have to realize that, um, what people didn't realize is President Trump
43:30
was, was willing to endorse, uh, uh, uh, uh, Thune if need be, he supported John Thune.
43:38
What people also don't realize is that, um, Rick at one point was really considering running
43:45
against President Trump before to Santa Scott in the race.
43:47
I think you remember that a lot of people seem to forget that that's not forgotten with
43:52
some of the Trump people.
43:53
And, uh, and there was only one person in the race of the president absolutely did not like,
43:58
but he had no problem with Thune.
44:00
He was okay with Thune.
44:01
He just didn't, he wanted to make sure that Thune wasn't, uh, uh, Mitch 2.0.
44:06
Well, starting last summer, uh, the President Trump and, and Thune started talking.
44:11
And the reason why, and how I know that is because I facilitated the first conversation
44:14
with them.
44:15
And so they started talking on a regular basis.
44:18
And, uh, and, and then when you start going back and that was, you know, that was, people
44:22
didn't know that.
44:23
People was like, Oh, I didn't know that Trump and him are on good relationships.
44:26
Well, it's because that's not your job.
44:29
It is.
44:30
I mean, to know that it was a private conversation that was going on.
44:32
I was privileged to those conversations.
44:34
And then when you start moving forward, when you're getting elected by your peers, it's
44:38
a peer to peer election, meaning people that know you best, relationships matter.
44:46
And Rick didn't have those relationships.
44:48
Rick is a smart guy, brilliant guy.
44:51
At one time, he literally employed 4% of the population in the United States.
44:56
I mean, he is very, very intelligent and he was in his 40s when he did that, by the way,
45:01
he's very intelligent, great business guy, uh, but you got to build relationships.
45:06
I have nothing negative to say about corn and I have nothing negative to say about, about
45:10
Rick.
45:11
But peer to peer relationships is about or peer to peer elections are about relationships.
45:17
And I, I had, um, I had Rick getting 11 votes and he actually ended up with 13.
45:23
So I was a little off on that.
45:25
I had a, I had Thune having 20, getting 22 votes on the first ballot and he ended up
45:30
getting 23 and I wasn't really sure where Cornyn was going to lay in and it was going
45:35
to fall in there.
45:36
I mean, obviously you can do the math and say that, you know, there was 52 senators.
45:39
It's pretty easy or 53.
45:40
That was actually there was 53 of us that was voting that day.
45:43
And you say, well, with that, you do your math, Mullen, you can figure that one out.
45:46
But, but I just have hard counts and I didn't really have any hard counts on him.
45:50
So there was a misknown.
45:52
So that's why there's a plus and minus on every polling of a percentage, uh, but I wasn't
45:57
surprised that that, uh, that, uh, Thune ended up winning.
46:02
I mean, we knew he's going to win it.
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I told you months ago that, that thing was going to win that race.
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All right.
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Very good.
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Well, Hey, we're out of time, but I did have a vision while you're given your last answer.
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The vision was of me driving that bus behind you, but with an enormous buck on top of it.
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You know, I shoot him that morning and I just drive him down the road to the process or
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whatever.
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So are you going to drive the bus to my house or do I need to come out there and grab it?
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Come here.
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But this thing is not going to anybody's deer camp.
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Well, I mean, I'm not going to put the deer inside of it.
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I would strap it on top, right?
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So everybody.
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I'm totally, I mean, I'm totally, I'm, I have no problem with that.
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I mean, we got a ladder that you can climb up there and just strap it up, but people may
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not be able to see it.
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So it's tall.
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So tall.
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So maybe we should strap.
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Put it on the hood.
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There's no hood is flat nose, oh, okay, yeah, we can just strap it to the, to the front
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of it.
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I mean, we could make that work.
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That's why they got ratchet straps, man.
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Mark Wayne.
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I got plenty of ratchet straps on the truck, but hey, man, I appreciate all the time today.
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We'll get back into some more business next month.
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All right.
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See you brother.
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Bye.
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