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This is Undaunted Life of Man's Podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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All right, Mark Wayne Mullen.
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I have questions.
1:00
Do you have answers?
1:01
No, but I can make it sound good.
1:03
Okay.
1:04
Well, we're going to do our absolute level best here because I don't know if you know this,
1:07
but breaking news, you are supporting a convicted felon for President of the United States and
1:13
you were one of the earliest supporters and you came out whenever there were 20 people
1:18
running in the right way.
1:19
Well, actually you came out before there was even anybody in the race and you came out for
1:22
Donald Trump, but gosh darn it.
1:24
I keep hearing that if I vote for him, it's for him.
1:27
Yeah, I believe in second chances.
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I think anybody can what's the word and looking for here can rehabilitate.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Maybe you can be rehabilitated back in the society.
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Yeah.
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It's such a joke.
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Right.
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I mean, you pick a district to convict him in and a district that 6%, literally 6% of the
1:51
population voted for him.
1:53
So it's the same thing in Georgia, you know, when they took him to court in Georgia, they
1:56
said, well, he was convicted in Georgia.
1:58
They were convicted in the only county in Georgia that didn't support him.
2:02
The only county.
2:03
I mean, they have all these counties in Georgia and they picked the one in Atlanta that didn't
2:08
support him.
2:09
So you just, you know, you just shake your head at this.
2:12
The whole point, and it wasn't to send, it's not to send Trump to jail either.
2:17
It's because they want to run ads saying he's a convicted felon.
2:21
Actually, the night of the conviction, people were taglining the, you know, these DC talk
2:28
shows and these political insiders were tagging him as a convicted felon immediately.
2:34
The talking point shifted about a convicted felon.
2:36
It's just a, it's just a joke and American people see right through it and which is why,
2:40
you know, he raised $250 million within the first five days after the election was 70%
2:46
brand new donors.
2:47
First time donors.
2:48
That's unheard of, Kyle.
2:50
It's this crazy how much he grays.
2:52
He literally smashed every fund record fundraising record that's ever been set.
2:57
He did it.
2:58
And he didn't actually do one thing that Democrats did it for him.
3:01
One, one thing that I thought was interesting is if you didn't think that this was a ploy,
3:06
they gave you a hint and it was subtle, but every time you see somebody that usually a
3:11
politician, whenever they're giving some sort of address to the media, and then as soon
3:15
as they're done with the address, there's usually five or six different voices of journalists
3:19
that are like speaking up all at the same time to try to get their question in Trump
3:22
comes out after being convicted on all 34 counts.
3:25
He comes out there.
3:26
He does his little two minute thing for the media and turns around to walk away and only
3:30
one voice and it was the voice of a female journalist.
3:33
I don't know who it was.
3:34
She just goes, you know, basically Mr. President, why do you think the American people should
3:38
vote for a convicted felon?
3:40
And it was just like, okay, there, there had to have been dozens of reporters there, dozens
3:44
and dozens and you're telling me that they were all just completely perplexed by what
3:48
the president was going to say that they couldn't think to just throw their question out there
3:52
and only one gal had her, you know, bullet, ready to go in the gun.
3:55
It's like, come on, you knew this was a game from the beginning.
3:58
Yeah.
3:59
Well, they did.
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And, and, but I think even a journalist, if that's what you can call some of the reporters
4:05
right now, which I mean, listen, a lot of the, I will say this, a lot of people in the press
4:09
core that follows the president and follows that inside the, you know, kind of inside the
4:16
that way that you have a lot of actual reporters.
4:19
And I mean, that sincerely you have your, you have your outliers, but you have your outliers
4:24
on any team.
4:26
But for the most part, I think those reporters that were, you know, in this press corps,
4:31
they were shocked by what had just happened as anybody except that one, which is that
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one's that outlier because they understood what just happened to American political system
4:43
when they did that.
4:44
It was devastating and then they, then, then you got to go, are they really going to put
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sin into prison?
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How can that even take place?
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You cannot send a former president of the United States to prison and because the national,
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I mean, because our secret service is to protect him the rest of his life.
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So they're going to have to go to jail to, I mean, they're going to be there.
5:07
So I mean, I, and who knows what happens.
5:09
I mean, if you're, if you're, I don't know if you're going to ask me, you know, what do
5:12
you think's going to happen January 11th or July 11th, I don't know what's going to
5:15
happen July 11th, but I would, I, if they do anything, they would try doing something
5:20
like maybe house arrest, which all that means that Marlargo would be the biggest fundraising
5:24
crowd you'd ever see.
5:25
And a lot of people will be flying to Florida to expand the airport there.
5:29
Yeah.
5:30
I mean, we'll see with what the judge decides, it seems like if you're going to go, you
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know, if you're going to go fully down this road, you're not going to stop short of doing
5:37
prison time, like it would make no sense to really do this whole charade and then stop
5:40
short of prison time.
5:42
But the question that I do have about this, and that is I've expressed on my show is okay.
5:47
So he's got this case, but then he's got the Atlanta case, the one in Georgia that you
5:51
talked about, he's got the case in DC and he's got the case in Florida.
5:54
And they all have, you know, they're different merits or non merits or different things
5:56
like that.
5:57
And they'll have their different schedules and all that.
5:59
So it would seem apparent that if he is elected in November, which the polls right now suggest
6:05
that he's, you know, the Vegas, I mean, Joe Biden and Trump, Trump wins this election.
6:10
So let's say that happens.
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I feel like the entire term, Mark Wayne is going to be bogged down with either the initial
6:17
trials in the Florida DC and Atlanta cases, or then the subsequent, you know, retrials
6:23
or all these other things, it's like, how could he focus on what's going on in the country
6:26
if he's in court?
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Actually, they would, they would all go away.
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They may try to Democrats will try to do another step that all go away because he can part
6:33
himself.
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And so, but not on the state crimes, he can do it on the federal step and not on the state
6:38
crimes.
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But the governors are going to pardon him.
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They will go away.
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I'm telling you that as a president, they will, they will go away.
6:45
They'll still try to come after him.
6:46
But the whole point was, the whole point was to try to break him, to try to, to make
6:52
him actually spend so much of his time dealing with these court cases that he couldn't campaign
6:56
and that all his money and resources be used for that.
6:59
I talked to President Trump and he said he had over 200 attorneys working for him full
7:03
time right now, because all these cases is coming after him.
7:06
What they didn't understand is the resilience of the man and you don't even realize it bothers
7:10
him.
7:11
He just, he understands what's happening and he just continues to move forward.
7:15
And so, when he gets elected again, all these frivolous cases against him, they will, they
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will, they will go away because they're, they're, the cases are, are weak and it's just, they,
7:27
they're, they're, they're poorly by these Democrat prosecuting attorneys and these Democrat
7:32
attorney generals are they, they've lost their, you're going to, you're going to really risk
7:39
your career on taking then the sitting president of the United States to court and you think
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you're going to win.
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You think you're going to have a case there zero chance.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I wish I was as confident as you with that because I feel like they are petty enough
7:53
to do that exact thing to where it's like, if they're going to try to get him as former
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President Trump, why wouldn't they want to get him as again, President Trump?
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Yeah. The thing that we're seeing now is there's so much momentum on the Trump side.
8:05
Obviously, none of his poll numbers came down.
8:07
If anything, they went up nationally and certainly we see that in all the swing states because
8:11
we know the selection is going to come down to, you know, tens of thousands of people in
8:14
like four or five or six different states.
8:16
That's what the election comes down to.
8:18
But then we see the Biden administration saying, you know what, we want to do a debate, but
8:21
they're not going to do these debates that are like really close to when the election's
8:25
going to happen in November.
8:26
They want to do them a little bit early.
8:27
So the first debate is coming up here really in the next couple of weeks and there's all
8:31
kinds of stipulations.
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There can't be a crowd.
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They're going to cut off microphones.
8:35
There's two commercial breaks, which is not really standard for something that you would
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see here.
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So do you have a read on how Donald Trump's going to be approaching the debate?
8:43
Because the concern is, is no one expects anything from Joe Biden.
8:46
So if he shows up even mildly sentient, he technically wins.
8:50
And so we don't set the expectations too low, but what are your thoughts on how this is
8:53
going to play out?
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Well, I think it first of all, you got an election, you got a presidential debate that's going
9:00
to actually happen before each one of them is actually nominated to be.
9:04
Which is ridiculous.
9:05
Yeah.
9:06
That's never happened.
9:07
Right?
9:08
We've never had that.
9:09
And which I think the Democrats are doing that because the Democrat party is taking on
9:12
a tremendous amount of water right now, and they want to try doing something to give Biden
9:17
a bump.
9:18
So Biden's going to come and prepare it.
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And there was very low expectations, Kyle, during the state of the union.
9:23
And if you remember, during the state of the union, I mean, people were expecting nothing.
9:26
He actually did as much as I hated sitting there listening to this guy.
9:30
He actually did a good job.
9:32
I mean, it's not his policies, but I'm talking about like his demeanor and the way he delivered
9:37
his message, not that I liked his message, the way he, but he was cognitive.
9:42
He was witty.
9:44
He shot back at some, you know, some of the hecklers out there.
9:47
So you can't underestimate his ability to come out and perform actually, you know, prop him
9:52
up and on a bunch of B-12 and might have indeed, you just can't.
9:57
But I believe they're doing this debate so early so they can try to mitigate some of
10:01
the damage.
10:02
And if the damage, if he does horrible, then that even has more fuel to my fire about saying
10:07
that, you know, there's a good chance, I think there's a 50-50 chance that he gets replaced
10:10
at the Democrat National Convention because of his health.
10:14
And so they were, they will release the delegates at that point and try to pick somebody else,
10:17
which is, you know, we can go down that rabbit trail if you, if you choose.
10:21
But as far as the debate stage is the way it's set up, I think it actually works in President
10:26
Trump's favor that they're going to mute the mics because we all get caught up in a moment
10:33
that we just want to, you know, shoot back and when someone's not being truthful.
10:39
And the idea that he can't, I think that, I think that actually helps because the more
10:44
Biden speaks, the more opportunity you give him to have another meme floating around.
10:51
And so the more opportunities they can give him to talk without being interrupted, I think
10:57
is a positive thing.
10:58
So I think the debate, the way they accept the debate up is not a, is not what the American
11:04
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11:06
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11:11
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11:15
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11:19
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11:23
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I do want to go down that rabbit trail just a little bit because where it stands right
13:33
now is it seems like, okay, if they say, look, he's dying in the polls, he's literally dying
13:39
in front of our eyes. But what do we do? Because if you take Kamala Harris out, then you're
13:45
taking away the whole reason he wanted to pick her in the first place is that she's
13:48
an intersectional candidate, right? Because she's black and she's female or part black
13:52
and female. And so the thing is, is like, who exactly do you replace him with? Because one
13:56
of the only national politicians with a lower approval rating than Joe Biden is Kamala Harris.
14:01
So what exactly would they do?
14:02
Well, so there's two things that happens when you go to the to the national convention,
14:09
which there's actually rumors saying that he may be nominated before the convention even
14:13
takes breaks because of I forget what state it is that has to have it done before then
14:18
because of the ballot issue. And so, and so this may be mute at that point, but if they
14:26
go to the convention and he releases his delegates, remember delegates are typically your activist.
14:34
So the activists in the Republican Party and the activists on the Democrat Party, where
14:37
your activists kind of kind of attend, not all, but kind of tend to go to the far fringes
14:46
of your party. So now keep that in mind because they can't elect somebody that is farther to
14:53
the left than Joe Biden. So that's why Kamala's numbers are worse than his. Governor Newson's
14:59
numbers are worse than his. And and actually Michelle Obama's numbers are worse than his.
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But if you're allowing your delegates to pick that person, that's exactly the way they may go.
15:10
And then it defeats the purpose of letting Joe Biden go because if you're going to let
15:14
Joe Biden go, you want somebody more presumed to be moderate. But there is no moderate national
15:22
Democrats left, by the way, that doesn't exist. But I'm just saying presumed to be moderate.
15:26
And if that's the, I mean, so it's kind of, you lose control of convention really, really, really
15:33
quick if you actually do this. So that's why I'm not convinced they're going to do it. But I think
15:36
it's a 50/50. If I were to say who they would like to see get out there is they would have to bypass
15:43
Harris and they would probably lean towards Hakeem Jeffries. Hakeem Jeffries is now the
15:48
leader. She's the one that replaced Nancy Pelosi. And the reason why I say that is because I think
15:53
they've been playing this for a little bit. And the night that Kevin McCarthy was sworn into
15:57
office when he actually, and not sworn office, but took the took the speaker gavel. That gavel
16:03
wasn't Hakeem Jeffries to give that gavel was actually Nancy Pelosi's to give. Hakeem never had
16:10
the gavel. Why did they choose to have Hakeem Jeffries hand a gavel to him? I don't know. And
16:16
why did they giving 15 minutes to the campaign speech? I don't know. But since Hakeem's been there,
16:21
now this is a leader of the house who Nancy Pelosi was always with Joe Biden.
16:26
No one can point to one single picks one single picture that Hakeem has been pictured with
16:30
President Biden since he since Hakeem's been leader of the house, which is really odd to me.
16:38
You see Hakeem, I served with Hakeem. Hakeem was not a moderate individual. He's very liberal,
16:43
but he's worked with Speaker Johnson and Speaker McCarthy on multiple pieces of legislation,
16:49
which he's not the bipartisan person. I'm Tony. I worked with a guy. Why does he do that right now?
16:55
Why is he taking different stances against the White House on some national issues,
17:00
including the border, including in which that wasn't his position before this vote movement.
17:06
He's actually came against it. He was part of the woke movement before. Why is he taking positions
17:11
against this pro Palestinian movement when and before that would have been kind of an
17:16
a way he would have went because he was he was liked by the squad and he's taken a difference
17:20
opinion from there. And all that stuff starts playing in my head going that that seems odd
17:26
that they would be setting this guy up for that. And then if you start looking at national news,
17:31
all your major networks, ABC, NBC and CBS, their nightly news has come out and done a
17:40
special on Hakeem Jeffries lately. You had 60 minutes, you had date line and whatever the one
17:46
is on ABC, they all did they all did specials on getting to know who came Jeffries.
17:52
So I think that's where the Democrat party is trying to get to, but it's still a huge risk if
17:57
you do that convention because once again, once you release a delegates, they can go wherever they
18:02
want to go. Yeah, so we've got a few weeks to see how this all sorts itself out. I got to say,
18:07
it's going to be like, it's going to be high drama in a lot of different ways. But you know,
18:11
when you see our president at the, you know, G seven in different places where he seems to be
18:15
just wandering off and doesn't seem to be doing things that are consistent with having, you know,
18:20
your entire mental faculties, that becomes problematic. But then you see policy things that he's doing
18:25
that seem desperate, seeming like he's trying to appeal to certain voters in certain areas. So
18:30
obviously the anti Israel stuff that he's doing, it seems to be, you know, promoting and trying to
18:34
get on the good graces of certain people in Dearborn, Michigan. But then you have this new stuff that
18:39
he's talking about with doing amnesty with essentially would be amnesty for these people that have
18:44
been in the country illegally for more than 10 years, but they're married to an American citizen,
18:47
basically fast tracking them to getting legal status here in this country. And a lot of people
18:51
are saying that it's just kind of like a last minute, you know, last ditch effort to get
18:55
more Latino people to vote for them. But then when you see the polling for black Americans,
18:59
Latino Americans, they seem to be pulling incredibly well for Donald Trump significantly better than
19:04
even they came out in 2016 for him. And so what's your read of what we're going to be seeing over
19:10
these next several months? Because it just seems like desperate attempt after desperate attempt to
19:13
just get a few hundred votes here and there. Well, it's, it's, they're trying to, they're trying to
19:18
mitigate the bleeding. It's, it's true. What you said, the Hispanic vote has greatly
19:23
diminished in the, in the Democrat party and has continued to increase underneath the
19:29
Republican party. A lot of that is their own doing, right? A lot of these individuals that are seeing
19:34
the lawlessness taking place in our country, they left countries like that. They didn't want to
19:39
live underneath that. That's what called a third world country. The lawlessness versus respecting
19:43
the rule of law is what separates a third world country and, and the United States. And so these
19:49
individuals that are migrated here, legally, they're, and that's our legally here to build a vote,
19:55
they're going, we don't, we don't, we don't want this. We've, we've left danger cities before,
20:01
where our families wasn't safe, where we wasn't safe. And, and so that's one reason why they're
20:06
moving. The second thing is the family traditional values, Hispanic population, they embrace,
20:12
you know, their, their religion. And they were, they, they, family values and family
20:16
makeups are very important to them, right? And so those traditional family values are highly
20:23
important. The Democrat party has completely annihilated the traditional family values. And,
20:28
and so they've done it themselves. They pushed people away. The working class is no longer
20:33
represented by the Democrat party. The Republican party is representing the Democrat, the working
20:36
class. That's a lot of the immigrant families in the Hispanic communities. And so you're, you're
20:41
trying to see them appease that, that, that portion of the population by going at sticking
20:47
points, like giving amnesty to these individuals. The problem that you do that with is when you do
20:52
a blanket amnesty, you still don't know who these individuals are. There is no vetting process
20:57
of them. And when you're saying, when you're saying that you're going to give amnesty to these
21:02
individuals that's been here for x amount of time and they're married to American citizen,
21:07
you're not talking about just individuals from from Mexico. You're talking about individuals from
21:12
the Middle East. And there's a huge difference between a female living here that has a husband
21:19
that's here illegally and the mentality to which that brings. And I'm, I'm from someone that spent
21:24
a lot of time in the Middle East. I'm not, I'm not, I am being very geographic by saying what I'm
21:30
saying is because of the, there's, we all make decisions based on two things that we are raising
21:34
in our life experiences. And the way they're raising our life experiences prior to the United
21:39
States is quite different. You need to know who these individuals are. You're not talking about
21:44
just simply one demographic of people. You're talking about, we have, we have, we've had over
21:48
160 different nationalities caught on our southern border. And you're giving a blanket
21:54
amount of amnesty to those individuals when we already know we just caught eight to Chicastan,
22:00
ISIS cave members, planning a terror attack inside the United States. We know that we've already
22:05
apprehended over 340, actually it's over 350 known terrorists on the watch list on our southern border.
22:13
How many hundreds of others are still connected to those? I remind people that Osama bin Laden
22:18
was, was part of the deck of cars. He was the ace of spades. There was a bunch of people
22:23
connected to Osama bin Laden that wasn't on the terrorist watch list. So he just because you're
22:27
not on terrorist watch list doesn't mean you don't have terrorists ties. So it's very dangerous
22:32
what he's done here by giving amnesty to these individuals, letting them one vote in our elections
22:38
and two, making them permanent citizens of the United States without any betting at all in that
22:43
process. That's the worst thing he could do, but it's not about America's security at this point.
22:50
If that was the case, he would already secured our border. It's about winning elections for the
22:54
Democrats. And that's what they're doing here. And so if Trump is elected, is that something that
23:00
he could overturn and undo very easily or? Well, it'd be tough, but he could because this isn't
23:07
coming through legislation. This is coming through a directive order, which is an executive order.
23:11
And any executive orders we saw can be overturned by the incoming president. We've seen that before.
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It's difficult though, because once that decision is made, it's very difficult to overturn that
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decision because a lot of emotions, a lot of wills get put into play. Now he could modify it,
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right? He could say, we're going to give amnesty to people from X, Y, and Z countries,
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which would help some of that. And I would, I would, I would understand why he is doing that.
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And amnesty mean the amnesty to the person that's married to a United States citizen
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has lived in the United States for 10 years or whatever that period of time is that ends up
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putting on the final order. But yes, he could technically. Is it that simple? No.
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Okay. Well, last question before we get you out of here, because I know we talked about this a lot
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on episode, you know, 589 and 599. But the Turks and Caicos situation, obviously you've been,
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you know, very, very involved with that situation. So what is the latest on Ryan Watson and him
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potentially coming home? So we're, we're doing this on Wednesday, what the 18th,
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Wednesday, the 19th, and this will be coming out on the 20 day right now.
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As we speak, probably, I'm waiting for, I may have already had a text message coming on it,
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but Ryan is at court. And he's having a court hearing today, he'll be sentenced on Friday.
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So, and we expect him to come home with, we've already, the laws already changed.
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They are now no longer enforcing the 12 year minimum. You know, we spent a lot of time working
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with a with London and the Turks on getting some of this stuff changed. We went down there,
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met with their AG, met with their, their governor, met with their premier, their sheriff. I like to
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see the movement that they're making. So now the 12 year minimum doesn't apply. I expect what will
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happen is Ryan will probably get a fine. You know, I don't know what that fine will be. It may be
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$6,000 or maybe $9,000. And he may get a suspended sentence. He may get time served and released,
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but I fully expect him to be home Friday night in Oklahoma. I think he will. I mean, I talked to
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I don't talk to him every day, but I talked to him quite often. I talked to him last night.
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My wife was talking to Valerie Bowles, what they call her this morning. That's his wife.
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And so my wife, Christy was, and so that we really expect that to happen. And then there'll be one
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lady left from the United States from Florida. And she will have her hearing and her sentencing.
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We got it moved up. She should have, I believe her, I believe we'll probably have her home
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hopefully by the end of this, by the end of this month. So I'd say sometime
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the end of next week, it may be the first or second week of July, but I believe we'll have
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from in the next week and then we'll be done hopefully. And they, like I said, they've changed
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their law now. And we, this issue should be put to rest. Okay, well, I know the moles of Thompson's
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have been praying for that family and the other families and a lot of people in my audience have
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been praying for them as well. So hopefully this comes to the resolution we've all been hoping for
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and praying for from the beginning. But Mark Wayne, is there anything else you want to say
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before we get you out of here? No, brother, you still look sharp. That's my best compliment for the day.
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That's it. Hey, man, I'm trying to cut people up with my hair.
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You're not good. Hey, hey, how many hard parts are up there on Capitol Hill? I think we can add one or
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two more, man. You have zero chance zero chance, but you make it look as good as a hard part can be.
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Hey, I'm just going to say the next time I see you, I may or may not have clippers in my hands. All
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