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>> This is on Daunted Life, a man's podcast. I'm your host, Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.
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Mark Wayne, Moan, welcome back to the show. Can you hear me okay?
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>> I can hear you okay, but I'm not seeing you.
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>> Oh, well, perhaps that's because I had a little surprise for you.
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>> Yes.
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>> You're up in me one. Is that what you're saying?
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>> Look at this. You always get on to me for being so casual. Here I am. I've got the
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bow tie. I got the tuxedo. I got the cufflinks. I got everything but, but, but, if you'll remember,
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the last time. >> No, of course not. Why would I have pants on?
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Of course not. But, but I don't know if you remember this would have been all the way back
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in December. But I also mentioned there was going to be one other thing that I was going to wear
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during our next chat. Do you remember what that was? >> I don't.
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>> I'm a man of my word, and I said I'd be wearing a top hat.
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>> Oh, you did. So, Senator Mullen, I hope you are ready for literally the most dapper interview
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that you've ever done in your entire life. You look like a clown. You don't even have a coat on.
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Look at me. >> Man, I'm not ready to go get my coat or something.
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>> No, it's too late. It looks like it needs to be like a New Year's Eve, a man we're hosting here.
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>> Yeah. I mean, I've got my cane over there. I've got everywhere I go now, people just throw
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glitter. Like, and it's just like, and fireworks are going off. It is fantastic. So, I know.
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I know I gotta say, I gotta say, Mark Wayne, I know this is going to be very distracting for you,
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but we got some business that we need to tend to here. So, are you ready to get down to business?
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>> Well, you need to be doing like an introduction, like a fight introduction. Are you ready to rum
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bull type? >> Well, you know, I had two vocal cord surgeries last year. This is about as loud as
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I get. And I, if I'm going to do a full on Bruce buffer, I think I need at least six more months of
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recovery. So, you're just going to have to do your best. You're just going to have to do your best
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without your big time intro, buddy. All right. So, to get to a specific subject, that is a big
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incident. >> Did you rent that?
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>> Did I rent? No, I own this. This is all me, baby. I rent everything.
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>> You're on the top hat. >> Oh, I've had this top hat for like 15 years.
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We bought a house a long time ago. The guy that owned the house before us was like a theater
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director. A bunch of stuff was left in the house, including a top hat that just so happens to fit
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my ginger noggin perfectly. >> Just as long as you didn't buy it because you bought it, I was going to give
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you all kinds of crap. >> Hey, even if so, why don't we wear top hats anymore? We're such a casual
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culture. We don't even, we barely wear pants to get on an airplane now. I think I'm going to start
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bringing sexy back a little bit, okay? I'm going to start getting people like this is how we're
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going to make it happen. >> Now, I will say the top hat is much better than people getting on a plane
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with bajama pants on. >> See? >> Yes. So, I'll give you on that one. >> Bajama pants are not pants,
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yoga pants are not pants, and I'm not wearing either right now because I'm not even wearing pants.
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See? >> No, no, no, no, no. I disagree. I think my wife looks good in yoga pants, and they're
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going to be pants. >> I'm going to make no comment on that because she is your lovely bride,
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but I'm just going to say, if I could trace all of your different dimples and lines in your body
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based on the pants you're wearing, and I don't have to even think about it, perhaps you're not
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wearing pants, perhaps you're wearing long underwear. >> I would say that there's probably some people
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that shouldn't wear it. >> Yeah, before you get yourself in any trouble and talk about biting
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anybody or something like that, we should probably get off the subject before we both get in trouble.
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So, let's get in trouble thinking about a different subject, so we are going to shift gears into
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something serious. >> All right, let's shift. >> We got to talk about the southern border,
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because it has been the thing that no one's really been talking about, except for conservatives and
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things like that, and now it's everybody. Because you've got Governor Abbott and Governor DeSantis
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shipping migrants to all these supposed sanctuary cities and sanctuary states, they're all freaking
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out. Now, everybody's mad at the Biden administration. And then a couple of weeks ago, Fox News ran
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a story and it said Schumer, Langford border deal, right? And so that Senator Schumer of the Democrats
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and Senator Langford of the Republicans, he's your compatriot here for the state of Oklahoma
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representing the state of Oklahoma. And the thing was, is they were just kind of running it as a
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potential deal. It's a bipartisan deal, but they're like the bipartisan sellout of America.
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And there was one line that caught a lot of people weird and it said immediate work permits to every
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illegal alien released from custody. So I text this to him, I'm like, hey, is this legit? And
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then you and I talked about it a little bit. So talk about the border just in general, but then
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specifically talk about any deal that the Senate might pass, because the House already indicated
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that something like this would never pass the House. But take that wherever you want to go with it.
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Well, let's break down the border bill. A lot of people have come up and have already drawn
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the conclusion by it. And the text hasn't been released. I haven't read the text. The text
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that text isn't even all put together as as of yet. I mean, I literally was talking to Langford
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maybe maybe an hour and a half ago. And he says it's not finalized. We don't have the text yet. So
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there's a lot of speculation what's in the bill, but no one knows what's in the bill because you
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haven't seen it. There's some top lines in there that people grab hold of. They grab hold of
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5,000 people a day cut off. You know, they grab the work permits cut off. They talked about
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parole and they're not understanding what parole was. They talked about building more
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beds for holding areas. And people are like, whoa, hold on a second. What the heck is going on here?
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And what I want to put out there is first of all, any bill that we were to do
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does not prevent President Trump when he gets in office doing anything he wants to do through
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executive orders or passing a different bill. So start with the fact that right now, I'm just
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going to say if you're speculating on the very, very worst situation that this bill does nothing,
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but the top lines that you just heard about does nothing else. Just those top lines. Right now,
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we have over 10,000 people per day crossing the border and that number continues to climb.
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So let's say worst case, say that the 5,000 is actually the number, which is not, but just say
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the 5,000 is the number and say that it's going to only allow 5,000 people a day.
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What underneath this administration that wants an open border, we're literally cutting the
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flow by half. That's not great, but it's better. People that say, well, just shut the border down.
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If we could shut the border down, we would, but we only control the house. We don't control the
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Senate, meaning Republicans, and we don't control the White House and the White House is the one
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that's making the calls on this, not us. So we don't have that option. That option isn't there.
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They say, well, shut down the government. Even if you shut down the government, the border doesn't
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close because who prioritizes spending once Congress shuts down Congress, shuts down the government,
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is the President of the United States. For example, when 2013, when we shut down the government,
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when Obama was in office, Obama shut every national park, started saying there was going
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to be no checks going out. Veterans weren't going to be able to get their pay. The VA hospitals were
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going to be running on emergency status. Men and women deployed weren't going to be able to get
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paid. They were going to be stationed in place and not about to travel and just basically shut
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the whole place down. Trump was in office when Pelosi shut it down or when Schumer,
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when I was posting, when Schumer shut it down and we were shut down for 90 days and no one remembers
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any of it because he did a different approach. He prioritized everybody as being essential because
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when you go to shut down, essential employees are essential. Non-essential goes home. Trump said,
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if you're not essential and you can go home, then you're fired. If you're not essential,
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then why are you working for the government? My point is to say that is shutting down the
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government isn't going to stop the border either because they're just going to deem it essential
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and continue to work the way they are. And cartels don't care if you're shut down or not.
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They're still going to cross the border. They're not crossing border crossings. They're crossing
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in non-border areas. So it doesn't happen. So people that make that argument isn't there.
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Now, let's talk about the work permit. Work permit, as I said, Kyle, this was actually my idea
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to put the work permit in there because right now we have 8.8 million individuals that are here
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that came into the country illegally, but now they are here illegally. You say, how are they
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here illegally? They're illegal immigrants. No, they were illegal when they entered, but because
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they got paroled and what parole means is they get a court date because they claim to asylum because
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that's what the cartels tell all these individuals to do. Claim asylum and they get paroled immediately.
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85% get paroled immediately. They don't go into any holding areas. They don't do any background
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checks, and 85% of paroled immediately. 6% are the only ones that are actually checked thoroughly,
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and the other percentage are just simply asked questions. So the other, what would be the other
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7%? No, I don't see 6. Where's my math on this one? The other 9% would just ask general questions,
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and then they're paroled. They're paroled for 6 to 8 years with a piece of paper that says return
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on this date to be heard on your asylum case. In other words, they're here illegally inside
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the United States, but they can't work. So how do they make a living off your and eyes taxes?
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Because we're supporting them. They're eligible for benefits. They're actually eligible for even
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some Social Security benefits, not Social Security, but Social Security benefits. They're eligible
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for every one of our welfare programs. So my thought is, is if they're here illegally,
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and they're not going to be sent back, they came here illegally, but they're here legally now,
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make them work. Every hospitality area you go past, regardless if it's a hotel or a restaurant,
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is hiring. Every labor company out there, be it plumbing, HVAC, electrical, like our companies,
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or a construction job. Every framer, every bricklayer, everyone that has labor, every launch service
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company, every gardener, they're all hiring. So if you're going to be here, at least instead of
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being a leech on our economy, let them be contributors to our economy and pay taxes and pay into those
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programs. And so that makes a lot more sense than just sitting there doing nothing.
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Because as I said, I don't like the process the Biden's used. I don't think they should be here
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period, but that's not the option we're faced because they've already been paroled. So now they
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are here. So let's put them to work. Now, so it's not great options, but it's the best option.
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Let's talk about what, let's talk about the retention beds, what we call the retention beds,
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adding the beds to it. Okay, so the way that the bill is being proposed is the 5,000 isn't 5,000,
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it's going to be let into the country. There are 5,000 that can be processed. The minute we hit 5,000,
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it's cut off. But only 5,000 a day can handle, can cross the border. Once it hits 5,000, it immediately
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shuts down and it will not be open until the flow decreases, which could be two weeks. It could be
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two months. It could be until the beds, the retention beds, go down to where we can process them.
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Because 100% will have to go through a hearing rather than automatically be paroled. And what
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the hearing is is instead of saying that you get to claim asylum and immediately get granted it,
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you actually have to prove that you need asylum, that there's a credible threat,
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and that there wasn't a safe place for you to go in the country you came from, or any of the
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countries you crossed before getting to the United States. So that means that the 5,000 a day
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could be cut down to a few hundred, or 1,500. But once they hit 5,000, is when the border,
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that's the matrix to where the border automatically, it says it shall, not it may, it shall be shut
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down. Meaning that the government has to shut it down. Meaning that Biden doesn't have a choice,
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he can't go around it, it's immediate. Their beds are allowing us to have the process,
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to be able to hold them and process them, because the Democrats have been saying,
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well, we can't, we got to release them, because there's not enough beds for them.
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So on top of that, that's another trigger too. We've, we've conceded to them, because it's
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Congress is a give and take. There is no perfect bill. The perfect, the person that wants a perfect
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bill reminds you, the Constitution has been amended. There isn't been a perfect bill. So you
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have to do some give and take. They said, we want more beds. If you want, if you're going to make us,
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if you're going to make us have a hearing right then on everybody that wants to come into the
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country and claim asylum, then we need more space to hold them. So, okay, we'll give you more space.
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But the minute the beds are full too, the border is shut down until they get processed below a
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certain percentage to where you can have more people in the processing center and go and have
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more beds available. So there's two triggers that will shut down the, or shut down the border because
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right now they never shut it down. So is this bill perfect? Lord, no. Is it the bill that we want?
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I wouldn't say it's a bill that we would draw if Trump is in office and we had control the Senate
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in the house. Absolutely not. But considering that we only control the house and we have to
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negotiate with Chuck Schumer and Trump, or not Trump, but Biden, it's better than what we have
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currently because doing nothing, Kyle, isn't an option. Okay. So what, what are the odds
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that a deal gets done through the Senate and the House and is signed by Biden before the election?
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Like if you had to give it odds, I think two weeks ago, before Fox ran their story,
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which I think was absolutely irresponsible on them because once again, they read a story,
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put their spin on it, and they didn't have any facts behind it because the bill to this day,
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I gave you the, all I was giving was the top lines of the stuff that they had accused us of.
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They don't even know what's in the bill till the end. But since they did that,
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it made a lot of people, a lot of career politicians, what I would say, people that are more,
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more concerned about keeping their office than actually doing their job by doing the research,
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understanding what's in it before they go out and talk something about it. There's already a
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lot of people that dug their fields in the ground and said, I'm not voting for it.
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So now we face the political game. The political game now has changed since there's so many people
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in the House that's already said they won't do it. Now what's going on up here is Biden is wanting
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to get the bill done because mind you, the Democrats, they really don't want to do anything at the
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border. If they were serious about doing something at the border, when Biden's first two years was
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in office, he controlled the House and the Senate. He had Pelosi and Schumer both in office,
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both leading the chambers. So they could have both, and they could have, they could have came
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together, got the border deal they wanted because they had a president that was in office, but they
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did, they did nothing. So they understand they really don't want to do anything. So this is play
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perfect because you have people that's jumped out there and said they're not supporting the bill
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before they even read it. So now what's going to happen is Biden's wanting to get this thing passed
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as soon as he can. Dare the Democrats, the Republicans not to do something on it. So he can say,
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see the Democrats are trying to fix this problem, but we can't because MAGA extremist won't let us
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do it. And that's, that's the politics that we're facing now. So policy doesn't matter. It's the
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politics that's taken over. And it's a shame because what's going to end up happening could be,
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end up happening is we do nothing on the border. And for the next 12 months, we continue to have
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record numbers crossing. We have fit in all this flooding our country. And the drug cartels are
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making millions per day on a tune of $32 million per day. Right. So what's, what's the more likely
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thing that we're going to see this year? A deal gets done or no deal, no deal gets done. What's more
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likely? I think it's even odds at this point. If you ask me next week, I'll have a better feeling
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of it because people may change when you, people may change when, when they read the text. But the,
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the person that holds the strings to this more than anything is if President Trump,
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who I'll be with Friday night speaking at the, at the Arizona rally that he's, that he's
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posted. If he's, if he were to come out and speak negative of the bill, it's dead. If he were to
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speak positive the bill, it's alive and well. If he says it's nothing, you have a 50 50 chance.
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Okay. So pick them with, with our future and with the,
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yeah, that's certainly politics for you. Now I do want to talk a little bit about the election
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in Trump, but before we get off that, I do want to ask you briefly. I know there's a difference
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between being a lawmaker and being an ideological purist because it's really easy to be an ideological
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purist on Twitter, right? Because you don't have to actually get anything done. You don't have to
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negotiate. You can just say, I am pure because I believe X, Y and Z. But to someone, and I've said
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this before, that would say, what if we as America said, okay, no more asylum cases will be heard
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until the backlog is done? So it's like, look, we are shut down entirely. So I don't care if you
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came from Mexico or Guatemala or Brazil or wherever you came from, but we are not taking any more
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asylum cases whatsoever. Because in that moment, I feel like these people that are just streaming
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across the border because they know they're going to be granted, well, they're not even going to
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go to their court date. Let's be honest, they're just going to assimilate into whatever part of
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their city would want 90% don't show up for the court date, which if you give them work permits,
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we'd also be able to keep track of these individuals because while they're working,
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it's like they're social security numbers. So we know where they're at, where they're living,
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and where they're moving towards. So we would know where these individuals are at all times too.
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So tracking mechanism too. So would that would that be something just right there to where it's like,
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okay, yes, we are a country that takes asylum seriously. And if we can help protect you
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from like actual harm, but we literally cannot accept even one more asylum case because we have
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a backlog of millions. Kyle, once again, you would get no argument out of 99.9% of the Republicans.
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They're not going to do it. The Biden administration, no way they're going to do it.
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I don't know if Trump, if he was in office, if he could do that, and sustain it for a long period
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of time, I think he could do it for a short period of time. But I don't know if he could do it for
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a long period of time, but there's no chance that the Biden administration would do it. There's not a,
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there's not a law we could pass that he would sign that he would do that because he has the
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authority to do that right now. So even if we pass legislation, he would have to sign it.
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And then if he vetoed it, we don't have two thirds to override it. That's even if Schumer would
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bring it to the floor on the Senate, I don't believe Schumer would ever bring it to the floor.
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And on the other side about security too, people talk about HR two, as you want to say purists,
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people talk about HR two. HR two is the perfect bill in my case, when we, it's perfect as possible,
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perfect as possible. There's no perfect bill, perfect as possible bill for border security
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that the House has passed out of the House. I would love to see that put in, put in office,
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or put into law. It's, it's, it's not going to happen. Schumer will not bring that to the,
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to the Senate floor. And even if he did bring it to the floor, there's no way that he would be,
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we'd be able to put 60 votes on it. And for some unforeseen reason, we were able to get 60 votes on
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it. Biden would never sign it, never would he sign it. There's no way he's already said Schumer
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and Biden both said HR two are both dead on arrival. So you, you get back to this theory here that
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as a purist, I think, I think I am considered a purist really. I'm very, very conservative,
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but I'm also practical. I've done, I've done nothing but negotiate deals since I was 20 years old.
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And I tried to, and people say, well, why can't Congress, why can't the government work more like
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a business? Well, I would agree with that, except when you will start working like the business,
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people get mad at you because in the business, it's all about negotiating. Is it not? Sure.
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I'm negotiating constantly. I'm negotiating with my insurance. I'm negotiating with my,
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with my, with my suppliers. I'm negotiating on wages and when I'm paying people, I'm negotiating
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on business deals. I'm negotiating on leases. I'm negotiating on purchases. I'm negotiating
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on toothpaste, man. I'm, I'm negotiating on everything. And when I need, when I negotiate,
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I want 100%, 110% of what I want. But I know I'm going to negotiate down to 70%, but I'll walk away
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at 69%. Because I, I, I, I still got to have whatever product or whatever job I need it.
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So I'm not going to go negotiate down to some place until I'm not uncomfortable and I'm going to
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walk. Negotiating the bill in the house or in the Senate is the same way. You got to negotiate.
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And people will say, if you're negotiating, you're a sellout, you're a rhino, you know, you're
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compromising. There's no win. There's always going to be give and take. And we have to,
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we have to understand that. We got to breathe and understand that. And what I always tell people
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say, did you read the bill? If you read the bill, tell me what you like about it and tell me what
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you don't like about it. And then weigh it and see if there's more good than there is bad. If
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there's more bad, then yeah, vote no. If there's more good at whatever percentage that is for you,
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then you should try to support it. Well, that's the, the built-in gridlock that the founders
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wanted from the very beginning. That's why we are a constitutional republic and not a democracy.
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I can't stand it when people just, you know, blatantly say, Oh, we're a democracy. It's like no,
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at no point in any of our founding documents, we are a constitutional republic. And this is part
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of the design here. Before we get you out of here, we obviously need to talk about your buddy Trump.
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You were one of the very first people that came out publicly and endorsed him for president. This
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was very, very early on. But he's since won the Iowa caucuses yesterday. This will be coming out on
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Thursday, but on Tuesday, he wins the New Hampshire primary. He's leading by a lot in South Carolina,
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which is where Nikki Haley, the only person left in the republican field other than Trump. That's
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where she's, you know, kind of hedging her bets because she's a former governor of that state.
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Trump's got to feel pretty good at this point because it would literally take an unprecedented
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comeback by Nikki Haley to overtake him at this point. I don't even want to ask you, is that likely
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because that may be like me asking you, is the sun going to fall out of the sky tomorrow? Is that
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likely? It doesn't really seem like it's likely, but I know you talk to him. You're kind of part of
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that inner circle. You kind of know what's going on. What is the Trump campaign thinking right now
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about where they're at? Are they about to shift gears from not paying attention to Haley and
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paying attention just to Biden? Where are they at right now with the campaign?
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First of all, it'd be more likely to somewhat fall out of the sky than Trump were to lose to
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Nikki Haley. It seems that way. There's still one person, God, that can make that decision.
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There's a lot of people who've got to change their mind to go support Nikki Haley over Trump.
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So I'm not, Lord, I'm not trying to be funny. Yeah, don't don't tell him. Don't tempt him.
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Not just you, but I'm being realistic. There is no path for Nikki to get there. What Nikki has is
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Nikki still has money to spend. And yesterday, people were like, well, Nikki did better than
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what she was supposed to. I mean, Trump did 40, 55. She did 43. Some folks have a 44, but let's say
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43 and a half. And when you really break down those numbers, though, there was a lot of Democrats
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that voted for Nikki Haley and Trump won the Republican vote by over 73%. He's leading in
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North Carolina by 40%. I mean, huge gap. There's a reason why that the governor, current governor
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of the state and the senators of that state did not endorse Nikki Haley. That says something about
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who she is. I mean, and I've never met Nikki on a personal level, so I can't make that. I'm just
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saying that if no one in your state, that's, that's, that's elected statewide is supporting you.
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That's a, that's a problem. Okay. That's a, because your state should be your home base.
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Well, I said before she even announced that she was running that I was really excited to
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see her in the race. So she see what she was about. But to be honest, the more I see and hear from
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Nikki Haley, the less I like her. It's just like she's basically, you know, she's playing the,
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the sexism card. She's borrowing a lot of stuff from the lab. She's being overwhelmingly supported
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by Democrats in this race, which is what we saw in the open primary in New Hampshire.
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So I guess my concern is, is it seem like from the beginning that Trump, this is what Trump,
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you know, or this is what the Democrats wanted. This is what the leftists wanted. They wanted
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Trump. They thought of all the people, DeSantis, Haley, you know, even Vivek Ramaswami, even though
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I don't feel like you can trust anything that man says, with all these people, they thought
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those people have a better chance of beating Joe Biden than Donald Trump does. And so that's
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the calculation that they've made. Now they made the same calculation in 2016 by giving him all this
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free, free press, thinking that Hillary was the heir apparent. And then we saw what happened there.
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But is there any concern there in his camp that it's like a lot of, if he gets convicted in one of
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these four cases that are pending, which he's clearly going to be convicted because it doesn't
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matter because of where they're taking place, you know, in Washington, DC and in New York,
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like obviously he's not going to get a fair trial on either one of those jurisdictions,
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perhaps in Florida. But in these cases, there's a lot of people that are supporting Trump right
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now, but they say if he is convicted of a crime by a jury of his peers, that they will not support
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him, I think the Democrats know that. And I think that even though Joe Biden is barely sentient at
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this point, it's not going to matter because they're going to look at Joe Biden as generic
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Democrat, as opposed to an actual person that has to stay alive.
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You know, I have a theory behind this. First of all, Trump's leading in all the polls
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with Biden head to head. I mean, MSNBC, you can look at all the liberal polls you want to.
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Everybody has Trump beating Biden at this point, head to head. Every time he gets charged or
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gets called a court, his numbers just increase. So people that say, if he gets convicted by
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his peers, actually that's not accurate because he's never going to be convicted by his peers.
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He's going to be convicted in Washington, D.C. that by 74% for Trump, or for not Trump
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for Biden, and 96% for Hillary Clinton, you're going to have New York, which went
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overwhelmingly for Biden by the tune of over 70%. And the numbers, he had higher right ends
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for against him than he had, than he actually won percentages for Trump on that and New York,
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and New York City where he's being charged, not upper state New York.
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So he can't, he's not going to be judged by his peers and people see that and they got it
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wrote off now. So that doesn't change the fact. What I think will actually happen
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is the Democrats are fearful of Trump now. They want it. The reason why they're supporting
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Nikki Haley is because they want anybody but Trump because they know they can't beat him.
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Everybody knows his negatives. They have thrown everything they could literally throw at the guy
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and his numbers just increase. So they're, I believe Kyle, this is just me and I'm going
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to sound like a crazy conspiracist here, which I am not. I'm just more of a practical guy looking
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at the Democrats and looking at politics because I'm lit. That's my world I live in now. So I'm,
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I think political more than what I probably should. But if I'm the Democrats and there are
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fear in their hatred towards Trump, am I really going to leave a guy in there that can't beat him,
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that they really don't like because his numbers now are consistently below 40%.
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So where's my option to change him? They didn't want him to be in a primary. So they did it on
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purpose. So they ran, you know, not RFK, junior out. They tried to clear the field to get people
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out of the race. The people that were trying to qualify against him, they made sure they couldn't
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qualify in the states they were at because they didn't want him to run a primary because they
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knew his numbers don't want to go down because the more he talks, the more his numbers go down
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versus Trump, the more he talks, the more his numbers go up. So the convention at the, at the
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National Convention, the Democrat National Convention, I wouldn't be surprised at all that at that
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convention, Biden comes up. He has a deal worked out with whoever his heir parent is going to be.
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I'm not saying it's Michelle Obama, but that's what the news says. Okay, I don't know who he's
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going to be. He came, Jeffries, who knows who he's going to be, that he has a deal work out that
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listen, if they convict my son, you got a, you, you got a parting and they come after me, you got
30:39
a pardon me too. And if you promise me, give me your word on that one, then I'll go, I'll go to the
30:44
convention and I'll say, Hey, my health isn't going to allow me to continue to, to, to move forward.
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And he releases his delegates. And the delegates at that point start jockeying and they can pick
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somebody else at the convention to run against Trump. And that's what I think more than likely
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will happen. Well, I would like to say that that sounds too conspiratorial to be true, but I think
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2020 has a disabuse me. Yeah, certainly anything happened. And I've said before, and I'll say it
31:19
again that if that is the thing and the dubious plan is to bring Michelle Obama in, I mean, at that
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point, she's good about it. I mean, she's the most popular. I'm not saying that's what the news is
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saying right now. That's why they're not going to bring out Pete Buttigieg or Kamala Harris,
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like they're not going to put one of those people in because it's just like, you know, I would rather
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vote for a left foot. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see how it goes. But hey, we, I'm looking at the clock
31:43
and we were out of time. And so I guess my last question for you is, is how much longer are you
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going to be dressing like a homeless person? Because over here where I'm from in these great
31:52
states of the United States and in this great state of Oklahoma, we dress like we got somewhere
31:56
to be and people to impress. How long are you going to keep looking like you do?
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Brother, I'm here just to be a supporting staff role for you and your endeavors to, to, I don't
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know, I guess, start acting Abraham Lincoln ish. Well, he didn't have a red beard, but he probably
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should have you die that beard, man, you look good. All right, I will start working on my Gettysburg
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address. But Mark Wayne Mullen, I would like to bid you a do good, sir. See you brother.
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