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This is Undaunted Life Man's Podcast.
1:23
Time for your host, Kyle Thompson.
1:25
Let's get into it.
1:27
Mark Wayne Mullen, you're back, which is great, but you're wearing a dress shirt and a tie,
1:32
which is super offensive.
1:33
I thought you were going to wear the official uniform of Undaunted Life Man's podcast from
1:37
here on out, but I didn't get to make fun of you off here because we're both busy today.
1:40
Why are we both so important?
1:42
Because I mean, look at your ratings.
1:44
Your ratings are just going through the roof.
1:45
I mean, you're stud.
1:47
It's really not because of what you say, it's how you look, evidently.
1:50
That's right.
1:51
I just love the fact that I'm basically a big walking talking recessive gene, and then
1:56
they feel so bad for me that they share my opinions with other people that are in their
1:59
life, which is awesome.
2:00
So the name where they look at you like, oh, that's a Viking.
2:03
That's right.
2:04
Who doesn't like Vikings?
2:05
Hey, that's my jujitsu nickname, Andre Galval gave me that nickname because I was like a
2:10
six month white belt, and I looked all disheveled with a big beer, and he just looked at me
2:14
and said Viking, so it's stuck, so it's an appropriate nickname.
2:18
Last time we had you on the show, we obviously talked about you going viral as Senate hearing,
2:22
and you kind of went mini viral again here recently, because there was another Senate
2:26
committee hearing, the EPW committee hearing, and it was on the impacts of plastic production
2:31
and disposal, because that's definitely at the top of everybody's mind right now.
2:35
So you had an interaction with a gal named Angel Angel, Angelica, something like that,
2:41
Bradford.
2:42
We'll call her Miss Bradford.
2:43
And one of the first questions you asked her was, what's going to replace your glasses?
2:46
So you fill in the gaps on that story, but my question is, is why are you so mean, Mark
2:50
Wayne Maughan?
2:51
And why didn't you invite her to a fistfight on the Senate floor?
2:55
Well, first of all, she was she was she was polite and she was sweet, yes, but I would
3:01
say a little naive, I don't want to be I don't want to be mean to her, but yes, something
3:08
like that.
3:09
Listen, she was the Democrats expert on on banning plastic.
3:14
She was their environmental, she's actually a professor who was teaching a class at a
3:19
school.
3:20
I'll leave unnamed and and she was talking about the environmental quality and the injustice
3:27
of the plastic industry.
3:29
That was literally what her what her class was.
3:34
And and so why I'm I'm sitting there watching her throughout the process and then I heard
3:40
her five minute testimony.
3:43
I looked and I thought that's that's very hypocritical that you're saying that you're
3:47
wanting to band all plastics.
3:50
And so the first question I asked her, which you know, you're never really supposed to
3:53
ask a question unless you know the answer, but I just kind of I just threw my script
3:57
out of the way and I said, ma'am, what are your glasses made out of?
4:00
And she says, I don't know.
4:02
And I said, what?
4:04
You don't know?
4:05
She says, I don't know.
4:06
I said, it's made out of plastic.
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She says, I don't think they are.
4:08
And I says, yes, they are they're made out of plastics.
4:11
And I said, well, what's your phone made out of?
4:13
And she says, it's not plastic.
4:14
And I said, are you kidding me?
4:16
Your phone is made out of plastic.
4:18
There's no question about it.
4:19
And then I talked to her about her cup and she says, my cup's not plastic.
4:21
This is a plastic.
4:22
I said, ma'am, your lid is plastic.
4:25
And I just went through the process.
4:26
I talked about her having petroleum products, which is plastic in your clothes.
4:30
We all have those.
4:32
If your clothes aren't stretchy, then maybe you don't, but most clothes like most people
4:35
want their clothes a little stretchy right now, they have a petroleum based product in
4:39
them, they have plastic in them.
4:42
And everything, the vehicle you're riding is made out of plastic.
4:45
And what my point was at the end of it, I said, ma'am, if this is what you believe,
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then don't use plastic, live it.
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That means walk on wooden shoes and where I guess leather clothes, all leather clothes
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at first, which way to say the environmentalists don't want you to cut down trees and they
5:05
don't want you to kill animals either.
5:07
So I don't know what you're wearing.
5:08
I guess you're going to wear plant base and the last time I checked, plant based clothing
5:12
doesn't really hold up that well.
5:15
And so it was just the point of just trying to expose the hypocrisy of these environmentalists
5:21
that they don't think beyond today, they think just based on emotion because they thought
5:27
beyond today, they'd realize that the very thing that they're protesting, they are using
5:32
and contributing to every single day.
5:37
Yeah.
5:38
Well, it's, it's not just emotion.
5:39
It's also ideology.
5:40
And so they are slaves to their ideology for the things that they want to say.
5:44
It's kind of like when people talk about the types of cars you should drive, Hey, don't
5:47
drive an H two Hummer.
5:48
Don't drive a, you know, a crew caps over auto, you know, drive this, this hybrid.
5:53
And then you break it down.
5:54
Okay, I drive fours.
5:57
So let's use F two fifties, explore, you know, Bronco, something like that.
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Hey, I got a joke for you.
6:03
What do you call a four truck with dual exhaust?
6:07
What a wheelbarrow, because it always, it always stops running.
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And so that's the thing.
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So we'll keep using Chevy's as examples.
6:13
But then you see these cars that are battery operated are these hybrids.
6:17
And when you do the carbon footprint analysis, they have a higher carbon footprint because
6:21
of what it had, what the process it had to go through to even be made, you would have
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to drive it like five million miles to have it even out, you know, with, you know, with
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a big old truck, a dooley that gets like 10 miles to the gallon.
6:33
An electric vehicle that's used Tesla, for instance, a Tesla vehicle uses two and a half
6:38
times the emissions of a combustible motor through its life lifespan.
6:44
And by the way, an electric vehicle is 80% less reliable than a combustible motor just
6:52
because of the components.
6:53
I mean, you just think about this.
6:55
How long ago, how long did your TVs use the last when they were, when they were glass tubes?
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Yeah, forever.
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Yep.
7:02
How long is your TV last a day?
7:05
The number one problem you have with your vehicles isn't the motor anymore.
7:09
It's the electric components inside the, inside the vehicle.
7:13
Right.
7:14
So, and so you can imagine your entire vehicle being electric, you're going to have more
7:16
problems with it.
7:17
Now they'll eventually get better, but the emissions come from not the vehicle itself.
7:22
It's from, it's from extracting those rare earth minerals that they have to take yet.
7:28
And by the way, the rare earth minerals are not being from the United States.
7:33
Most of them are becoming from China.
7:34
Right.
7:35
And so not only do they have to extract them, which China really doesn't have good environmental
7:39
laws anyways, but if you just, if you just use the fact that they do use the same environmental
7:45
laws we have, which they don't, because if they, if they did, they wouldn't be able to
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mine.
7:51
We could probably actually get it from the United States, but just say that they do.
7:55
Not to mention, then they got to ship it all the way across the ocean to get to us, which
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doesn't come on electric vehicle, by the way, or electric ship.
8:03
And then it's got to be shipped all the way to the factory, then it's got to be refined
8:06
and then it's got to be brought down, then it's got to be put in the vehicle.
8:08
Oh, and then you're not even discussing the disposal part of it.
8:11
You actually can't dispose of the batteries in a, in an environmental friendly way.
8:16
They are absolutely non recyclable.
8:19
So then they have a lifetime of an impact on the environment after you get rid of the
8:24
battery and the batteries will only last two to three years.
8:28
And we haven't talked about how we're going to start disposing of these batteries yet.
8:31
And so this, so you talk about the ideological reasons behind it, but really you can't say
8:38
that because it's not even that it's a feeling because there's no common sense.
8:42
There is absolutely no idea or no rational reason why they would want to go down this
8:47
path other than it's feel good.
8:49
And it's, it's a soft headed approach.
8:51
But again, you get to pretend to be virtuous by saying, Hey, I care about the trees or
8:56
I care about the oceans or something like that without any regard for the actual second
9:00
third and fourth wave issues that would come off of that particular ideology.
9:05
So another thing that's happening on the Hill right now is we've got all this talk
9:08
about funding.
9:09
And so we're seeing these bills getting bandied about in the Senate and also in the house
9:14
and everyone's trying to get Israel funding, but somehow that has to also be attached to
9:19
funding for Ukraine, which has to be touched to funding for Taiwan and has to be attached
9:24
to funding for border security.
9:26
Now, I'm just a simple guy, right?
9:28
I don't wear ties every day.
9:29
I don't have flags behind me.
9:30
I'm just simple, right?
9:31
I'm just simple.
9:32
I hate.
9:33
I'm just saying as I do how soon is the show where you go and put your pajamas on with
9:37
a tie?
9:38
I don't even have pants on right now.
9:39
So I don't know what you're talking about.
9:41
The problem that we see here on our end, all of us people down here looking up at all
9:46
you superiors is why can't we just have each one of these things be voted on based on
9:50
their own merits?
9:51
Now I know enough about politics to know why omnibus bills are passed, but at the same
9:56
time, it's very, very frustrating as a voter and as a taxpayer that we're considering
10:00
all of these things together as opposed to them on their individual merits.
10:03
Ready set go.
10:04
All right.
10:05
So we're all our founding fathers want us to be representatives and centers from different
10:10
walks of life.
10:11
They didn't want a ruling class.
10:12
So we don't have the same mindset and things that we deal with in Oklahoma are different
10:16
than what they deal with in Massachusetts and the things we deal with in Oklahoma is different
10:19
than what they deal with in California, even different than what they deal with in Texas
10:22
and Kansas.
10:23
So we all have all these different ideas and we all do one thing.
10:26
We're all supposed to represent our backyard.
10:28
So our constituents elect us to represent them.
10:32
And so with that thought process, what's important to me is an important to them.
10:37
So what's important to Texas, what's important to New Mexico, but what's important to other
10:42
border states by border security, they don't care about, but they need to start talking
10:47
about maybe the East Coast and the West Coast where they may have a high population of Ukrainians
10:52
or they may have a high Muslim base or they have a high Jewish community, then those individuals,
11:04
they're representing that constituent base.
11:06
And so not one is important to everybody.
11:09
So you have the collection of all come together and that's where negotiations are important.
11:14
And so if you can't get one of them past, you combine them together to get them past
11:20
because the support for Ukraine for Ukraine wouldn't be able to pass by itself.
11:29
The sport honestly, just for Israel, wouldn't be able to support by itself.
11:34
There's not enough there and neither will border.
11:37
But if you combine them, you get a collection of people from California, from Massachusetts,
11:42
Maine, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma and everybody else that say this issue is important to me.
11:48
And so I'm going to support it even though I may not like a third of it.
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Okay.
12:21
So with that in mind, if each one of these individual bills or potential laws were not
12:27
able to stand on their own two feet, is that not a good indication that that's just not
12:31
really something that the American populace cares about?
12:34
Because if all of America can't get behind this to a degree to where it could pass either
12:39
chamber of Congress, then maybe we shouldn't pass it.
12:44
Well, you've never had a perfect bill that everybody wants to support.
12:47
Sure.
12:48
That doesn't exist.
12:50
I mean, that process, the way you're thinking, sounds good in a business atmosphere.
12:56
It doesn't sound good when you're talking about individuals that's going to make this
12:59
vote.
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The bill would just be blocked.
13:04
It would never come up.
13:07
It may not ever come because you can't get enough signature on this to bring it up.
13:10
It may not.
13:11
And it doesn't mean that people aren't okay with it.
13:13
They're just wanting to negotiate more because they're wanting something out of this too.
13:17
If you want my vote, then this is what it's going to take.
13:19
So if you try to bring that up by itself, most of the stuff would never get passed.
13:27
You just aren't going to get a collection of enough people to get anything at all done.
13:31
Now, that doesn't mean that supporting Ukraine is an important, as I've talked to you about
13:35
it before.
13:36
The Budapest memorandum said that we're going to be there.
13:37
That was signed in January of '94.
13:39
If Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons, then the United States said we'll be there
13:44
for you in the case that you get invaded specifically by Russia.
13:48
Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if they were still nuclear power.
13:51
So we're obligated by there.
13:52
Israel, we have a memorandum signed with them too that we would support them.
13:56
They're our largest and biggest allies in the Middle East.
13:59
They are vitally important to us, not to mention the Bible says that a nation that
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stands with Israel is the best, blessed nation.
14:05
I don't take that for granted.
14:07
I believe that whole hardly.
14:09
And then our border is the most pressing issue we have, national security speaking, but you
14:16
have a bunch of Democrats who don't care about the border.
14:19
You have Chuck Schumer and you have Biden in office.
14:23
So let's talk about the border itself.
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It's important to you and I, right?
14:27
Of course.
14:28
Do you believe it's probably one of the biggest national security issues we're facing right
14:31
now?
14:32
It's not the biggest.
14:33
I think it is the biggest, right?
14:34
We've caught 151 known terrorists, not terrorist watch lists, 151 known terrorists on our border
14:39
in the last 12 months.
14:41
Yeah, it's a huge national security risk.
14:44
So the Biden administration is not going to touch that.
14:47
No way, no how, they're not going to bring it because the Democrats want an open border.
14:52
They remember they could have fixed the border if they wanted to when Chuck Schumer is in
14:55
charge with Nancy Pelosi and Schumer in the house.
14:58
So the first two years, or not Schumer, but Biden in the house, the first two years, they
15:02
could have fixed it if they wanted to.
15:04
They don't, they're not even talking about amnesty.
15:06
They want a complete open border.
15:09
That's what they want.
15:10
Well, the Republicans are sitting here going, hmm, want to control one leg of a three-legged
15:15
stool.
15:16
So the only way that we're going to be able to get border security is we're going to hold
15:19
up funding for Ukraine and for Israel and say that all three of them need to be put
15:23
on one package.
15:25
That's how that's how you're able to get stuff done.
15:27
So you and I believe that border should be able to stand by itself, but there's no way
15:31
it'll pass up here.
15:32
So we can only attach it to something that's important to them.
15:35
Well, it's the difficulty of being an ideological purist versus being an actual lawmaker.
15:39
So it's very easy for a podcaster to be ideologically pure and say, this is my red line and I'm
15:43
not going to pass it.
15:45
But when you're creating law and a system that is a constitutional republic, it's a
15:48
little bit more difficult than that.
15:50
So you already touched on the border crisis stuff.
15:52
And so we won't get into any more detail.
15:53
But the last thing I'll say to throw out there, I think part of the confusion, there's not
15:58
really a moderates in America anymore, but even people that just don't fully understand
16:02
what's happening in Ukraine, what's happening with Russia, they've never heard of the Budapest
16:06
agreement or they don't know anything about anything that was signed in the past.
16:10
What some people have been sold is this idea that look, America needs to do whatever it
16:15
takes to prop Ukraine up as long enough to basically decimate the Russian military capacity,
16:22
which is basically where we're at now.
16:25
They've literally lost an unbelievable amount of their military.
16:29
They're conscripting military workers from prisons and old people and young people and
16:34
they're just basically tossing them into trenches as if it's World War I.
16:39
So as an American, if we're looking for an off-ramp, what is the off-ramp exactly?
16:44
Is it when we feel like Russia's completely decimated, when we feel like there's been
16:49
a break in this trench warfare style that we see going on?
16:53
When Russia is overtaken by Ukraine, as an American, when can I feel good with us not
16:58
funding that war anymore?
17:01
United States, we're not trying to decimate the Soviet Union or Russia's, because that's
17:09
other acting, but we're not trying to decimate Russia's army.
17:12
That wasn't the goal.
17:13
We're just trying to put them back in the hole, back in the box they came from, get
17:17
out of Ukraine.
17:18
So what is victory look like is basically what you're asking.
17:22
As far as the way Russia's fighting the war, they're far from being out of this war.
17:27
I mean, the way they fight wars is just what their fight is how they're fighting.
17:31
They've never had a regard for human life.
17:34
That's not what a dictatorship is.
17:35
They don't care about the individual.
17:37
They'll send way after way after way of individuals.
17:39
That's how they've always fought wars and that's how they're going to continue to fight
17:43
wars.
17:45
Human life, the collateral damage means nothing, zero zilch to them.
17:54
It's what their industrial complex looks like.
17:55
Their industrial complex is very strong still yet in Russia and their economy is still strong.
18:00
So what does victory look like?
18:01
Well, victory looks like some people in Crimea, pushing Russia all the way back into Crimea.
18:07
But remember, Crimea is part of Ukraine.
18:10
Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and stopped where they're at right now.
18:14
And so Crimea is technically illegal land taken by Putin from 2013 to 2014.
18:23
We had, remember, Obama in office at time and he was not very happy at the fact that Trump
18:30
could possibly win and he didn't want to go any farther and test it.
18:33
So he stopped.
18:34
If Trump wouldn't have won, they would have already done this a long time ago.
18:38
So victories, some people say victory, especially Republicans say victory should just push them
18:42
back out of where they're at, put them back to the line of 2014.
18:45
If you're Ukraine, though, you're going to hold on a second.
18:47
If I'm going to fight this war, if I'm going to fight this war, then I want to make sure
18:52
that we get them completely out of Ukraine.
18:55
So we would support them all the way to the point where they claim victory or until they
19:01
reach their own border with Russia.
19:04
The minute they go into Russia, we'll be done.
19:07
That's not our responsibility anymore.
19:09
Our responsibility is to help them push back an invading force specifically in Russia.
19:14
And so that's where we would say we're done.
19:17
Now, I do want to, I do want to hit some numbers for your listeners.
19:20
Once again, I know we hit the border, but I want to hit it one more time.
19:23
Just for listeners to understand what type of numbers we're dealing with on the southern
19:27
border.
19:28
During the Obama administration, when they claim we had a border crisis, they say we had
19:33
a crisis.
19:34
Their own border agent, or not border agent, their own chief of the border at the time
19:40
said that they had a crisis.
19:43
And at that time, they were claiming 21,000 asylum seekers a year, a year from 2010 to
19:51
2014, 2015, we averaged 21,000 asylum seekers a year.
19:56
We're doing that now in the Biden administration every other day, every other day.
20:02
So this is how big of an issue the border is.
20:04
That's why we're trying to negotiate this and why we're not saying that we know we can't
20:07
let it stand by itself.
20:09
And that's why we're negotiating on a greater package.
20:12
Well, I'm always left at the end of our time somewhat dissatisfied because I have so many
20:16
more questions, but neither one of us have time.
20:18
You got to go meet somebody on me and you want to spend more time with me, just admit
20:23
it.
20:24
Well, that's exactly why the next time you see my face, which will be approximately this
20:27
time next month, I will be in a suit and tie and maybe even a top hat.
20:31
So don't get too excited.
20:33
I'm just saying, don't be surprised if that happens.
20:35
Mark Wayne.
20:36
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