Find Guys That'll Help You Bury Your Dog (Ep. 638)

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0:50 This is Undaunted Life a Man's Podcast.

0:54 I'm your host Kyle Thompson, let's get into it.

0:57 A man of many companions may come to ruin, but there is a friend who sticks closer than

1:01 a brother.

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1:35 Now, we're short on subjects today in terms of our episode, but we will likely be long

1:40 on content.

1:41 So buckle up, we're only going to be talking about three things, but they are three hugely

1:45 important things.

1:46 So there's only two quick hitters and I'm not even really treating them like quick hitters.

1:48 These could have been separate episodes.

1:49 I wanted to make them separate episodes, but we had a lot of interviews before this.

1:53 We got a lot after this and we got some cool stuff coming up in September.

1:57 But the two things that I'm going to be talking about after I talk about this first thing

2:00 is the two biological males winning gold medals in women's boxing at the 2024 summer Olympics

2:05 in Paris.

2:06 I have been chomping at the bit to talk about this for a very long time.

2:09 And then even longer than that, I've wanted to talk about mega church pastor Robert Morris

2:14 resigning after allegations of him sexually assaulting a 12 year old girl systematically

2:18 sexually assaulting a 12 year old girl.

2:20 But to be honest, I don't even want to be recording right now.

2:31 I super duper don't want to talk about what I'm going to talk about because it's so painful.

2:36 And I was going to say it was going to be a miracle if I could make it through this without

2:39 cracking.

2:40 And here I am.

2:41 I haven't even started talking about it.

2:42 I'm already cracking.

2:43 But I've been not looking forward to this episode for years because I knew it would eventually

2:49 happen.

2:51 And the whole time I was prepping this episode, I was in tears downstairs getting ready to

2:57 come up here and record was in tears was trying to get my crap together like, you know, game

3:03 face just to do this section of the show.

3:06 But just kind of is what it is.

3:07 We just got to launch in.

3:08 So let's send it.

3:10 So some of you that are fans of the show you listen to, they ask a pastor episodes and

3:14 I believe in the last ask a pastor episode, I was, I forget how it came up with Jobe,

3:20 but you know, we've talked about dogs before and how he doesn't think dogs will be in heaven

3:23 and we won't really care.

3:24 And I keep saying, don't say that my boy, Roman, the giant's going to be there.

3:28 Don't you say that?

3:29 And you know, he's pretty adamant that that they're not.

3:32 But he was also adamant that I share what I'm going to be sharing with you guys.

3:37 And when I push back, he said, Hey, this could potentially help a lot of guys.

3:42 So we're just going to launch in.

3:43 So July 13th, 2024, we'll go down in history as one of the darkest days in the history

3:49 of our country.

3:50 So many of you will recognize that date as the date of the attempted assassination of

3:54 former president Trump while at a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.

3:57 Now since then, that has been completely memory hold.

4:00 We don't know anything about the shooter.

4:01 We don't know anything about their motivation.

4:03 We don't know anything about their past.

4:04 It was supposed to be he kills president Trump and then he would be killed and then it would

4:07 just be wrapped up in a nice little bow.

4:09 And we would forget about it.

4:10 And here we are talking about, you know, Kamala Harris, eating Doritos or the whatever is

4:14 going on at the DNC and the Planned Parenthood, you know, given out free abortions and the

4:18 mastectomies and all that, which we'll talk about that in the coming weeks.

4:22 But that particular day, July 13th, 2024, will always serve as a fairly macabre anniversary

4:28 for me personally, because on the morning

4:40 of July 13th, that's when I lost my best friend and closest companion, Roman the Giant,

4:51 my dog.

4:52 So you've heard me talk about him on the show before and for you regular listeners that

4:55 did listen to the ask a pastor episodes.

4:59 You remember me mentioning that my dog Roman was actually in the middle of surgery while

5:04 we were like, we were recording, Joby and I were recording and Roman the Giant was in

5:07 surgery and unfortunately he didn't make it.

5:31 So the details of what happened with his medical issues, they're not incredibly pertinent to

5:37 this discussion.

5:39 He was nine years old when he died.

5:41 His death was sudden and unexpected.

5:44 We thought we had years left with him and we certainly didn't.

5:48 So Roman was a giant Schnauzer that we got as a puppy.

5:51 But most importantly, he was my puppy and he grew up to be my dog.

5:58 Now this is important to me because throughout my life, I've always loved dogs, always wanted

6:04 dogs, but every dog that was ever gotten by our family or something like that, it never

6:09 ended up being my dog.

6:11 Okay.

6:12 So when we were little kids, we got a Dalmatian, but the parents, my parents wouldn't let the

6:15 dog be inside.

6:16 And so it was an outside dog and so I wasn't outside very often because I was inside doing

6:20 homework or was that, you know, baseball practice or something like that.

6:24 And so that dog really attached itself to my dad because my dad would go outside and

6:28 play with him and hang out with her.

6:31 Then we got a Dachshund, like a long-haired Dachshund.

6:34 And for any of you that have had Dachshunds before, those dogs kind of suck.

6:37 Like they're kind of cool, but they're very moody and they usually pick one human being

6:42 to attach to.

6:43 And this Dachshund called Munchkin attached itself to my sister, never really did anything

6:49 with me.

6:50 So there's two dogs that my family had growing up that weren't my dogs.

6:53 So when my wife and I got married, she originally was like, we can't have dogs.

6:56 You know, I'm allergic to pet dinner, but then we found out about hypoallogenic animals.

7:00 And so we got this little Maltese from a rescue.

7:03 And the thing is, or the thing was at that time, I was in graduate school.

7:08 So I was getting my MBA.

7:09 And so I would work all day and then I would go right to school and I wouldn't be home

7:12 until close to 10 o'clock.

7:14 And so she was with that dog all the time.

7:16 And that dog was in her chair with her while she was working at home and different things

7:19 like that.

7:20 And so that dog Yadi super attached itself to my wife.

7:24 So finally, we're like, we're going to get a puppy and it needs to be my puppy.

7:27 Okay.

7:28 This is going to be my dog.

7:29 I was like, I don't want a little foofy dog.

7:31 I want a hyperallergenic dog, but a bigger dog, but I don't want anything that's mixed

7:34 with a poodle.

7:35 And so we found giant Schnauzers, got this puppy, went and picked him out, brought him

7:39 home.

7:40 And the thing was clear from the beginning.

7:41 This is my dog.

7:42 I will train him.

7:43 I will give him food.

7:44 I will give him water.

7:45 I will walk him.

7:46 I will do all those things.

7:47 I am pack leader.

7:48 And he completely acquiesced to that.

7:50 That was my dog and shout out to my wife for actually letting that that happens.

7:54 She kind of took a backseat so that that dog would bond to me.

7:57 And that dog has just always been my dog.

7:59 That dog just wanted to be where I was.

8:01 I remember when we would go to the dog park, which we stopped going because it was kind

8:04 of worthless.

8:05 That dog wouldn't play with other dogs and that dog wouldn't go up to other humans.

8:08 That dog either wanted to be hanging out with me or is it going to hang out by itself.

8:12 And basically for the last several hundred episodes, he's been right here at my feet,

8:17 recording these, you know, these podcasts for you guys.

8:20 And every now and then you would hear, you know, his collar whenever he would shake or

8:22 scratch or something like that.

8:25 But the thing, the thing about him dying was there was hope leading up to him dying.

8:32 Because, you know, again, not getting down to all the details, we had to transfer him

8:36 to an emergency hospital and there were five dogs there.

8:39 It's like the middle of the night, there were five dogs that were emergency dogs and the

8:42 vet came in to talk to me and I'm like, look, dude, just level with me.

8:45 Like I'm a big boy.

8:46 Just kind of like, tell me what's going on.

8:47 He goes, man, to be honest with you, we have five dogs here that are emergency.

8:52 One of them is your dog.

8:53 The other four, I have no idea why they're here.

8:55 These dogs are going to die, but their families brought him in and said, well, pay whatever

8:58 amount for you to do, whatever you feel like you could do to save this animal.

9:03 But he's like, those dogs are going to die.

9:04 He's like, I don't feel that way about your dog.

9:06 And earlier that same day I had gotten a call from our vet where he was at the time and

9:11 they said, look, his heart rate has dropped, his blood pressure has dropped.

9:13 It doesn't look good.

9:14 You might want to get up here.

9:15 So I'm in the middle of mowing.

9:16 I just chucked my stuff in the garage and I go up there and I get to the back where he

9:20 is and he's still hooked up to the blood pressure machine and as soon as he saw me and as soon

9:25 as I put my hands on him, his blood pressure and a heart rate came up to normal.

9:31 So much so, so shocking was it that the nurses in the vet were like, oh, shoot.

9:36 Oh, okay.

9:37 Okay.

9:38 And so they start, you know, giving him medicine to start hooking things up.

9:41 They were ready to basically say this dog's not going to make it.

9:44 We need to put him out of his misery.

9:45 Then it's around me and he like clings to life.

9:48 Well, the next morning where we're thinking we're going to be getting a call from the

9:52 surgeon saying, hey, you know, third successful surgery.

9:55 But instead it was, hey, look, his heart gave out his heart gave out twice during surgery.

10:06 We were able to get him back.

10:07 But the third time it gave out, we just couldn't get him back.

10:18 So I kind of lost it there for a second.

10:21 It reminded me of my favorite movie, Gladiator, when Maximus comes up on his, uh, his wife

10:26 and son, obviously much different, but how he just couldn't even really function, like

10:33 just not dripping everywhere and all that.

10:35 Like that's kind of how I was.

10:37 And I was so mad that I wasn't there with him because that's how he was supposed to

10:41 die.

10:42 He was supposed to die with me and just didn't work out that way, you know, because I had

10:50 the best laid plans.

10:51 You know, he's going to be 13, 14, maybe 15 years old.

10:55 We got to make that hard decision.

10:56 You know, he's suffering.

10:57 We got to put him out of his misery, but that, you know, it was going to be peaceful in our

11:02 home.

11:03 And that's just not how it worked out.

11:05 Just not how I thought he would go out.

11:08 And so I had to drive to go get him from the emergency hospital pick to pick up his body

11:13 and transport him home.

11:15 I guess I should apologize at this point for those of you that don't like hearing grown

11:18 man crying.

11:19 So if this, you know, makes you no longer a fan of the show, suck it.

11:22 I don't, I don't really care.

11:23 But I always knew that he was going to be buried in my backyard.

11:27 I wasn't going to cremate him.

11:28 I wasn't going to, you know, send them off.

11:29 There are people that actually drop their dogs off at the vet to be euthanized.

11:32 Like, and I don't understand those people.

11:34 So if you're one of those people, you're not one of my people.

11:36 Don't, don't try to be my friend.

11:38 How about that?

11:39 But I wanted to bury him in the backyard and I wanted to do it by myself.

11:44 And I'm, guys, I've been thinking about this for years.

11:45 I remember when Roman turned three years old and I thought to myself, holy crap, this dog

11:49 is going to die someday.

11:50 And I'm not going to be able to deal with it, you know, but I always knew he would be

11:53 buried in the backyard.

11:54 It's my wife's literally walking me around the backyard.

11:56 We're trying to find the best place to bury him.

11:58 So we don't hit, you know, some, you know, water line or sprinkler line or just something.

12:03 And we find this spot and I just put a couple of sticks and an X on the ground.

12:07 And then I leave to go, to go pick up my dog.

12:10 And so I guess for a quick pause here, I need to talk about two men that are going to feature

12:17 fairly prominently in the story here in just a second.

12:20 So you should recognize these names, but we have Rush Sweatman and Ryan Horn.

12:24 So Ryan Horn of the Forging Table, otherwise known as the Horn.

12:27 And then if you've been with us for a long time, you remember my foxhole episode way

12:30 back in the day where I talked about Russ, the ring leader, okay?

12:34 And so let's talk about Russ first.

12:36 Russ and I have some significant areas of overlap.

12:39 He was my first jujitsu coach.

12:41 He essentially runs our fight club thing that I've talked about at nausea on this podcast,

12:46 and he's in our Sunday school class.

12:47 He's, you know, been a part of that group for a long time.

12:51 And so, you know, he was one of the reasons why we even tried out Faith Bible Church in

12:54 Evan, Oklahoma.

12:56 But the thing about Russ and I, we also have very, very significant disagreements.

13:00 A lot of it has to do with like just how we operate.

13:03 Like I'm an early person.

13:05 He's a, I'll get there whenever I do, whenever I need to get their type person and that's

13:09 usually late.

13:10 He looks at community quite a bit differently than I do.

13:13 We just, you know, we kind of miss each other on a lot of philosophical things, but it's

13:17 because of those heavy areas of overlap that we, we really do get along quite well.

13:24 And then also with Ryan, I've had people comment before, they're like, man, you and

13:28 Ryan are kind of the odd couple, it doesn't really make sense that you would be friends

13:31 with him.

13:32 It's because, you know, we look quite a bit different, you know, exercise and fitness

13:36 isn't really a big, big deal for him.

13:38 It hasn't been a big deal for him for a long time.

13:41 He like vehemently hates jujitsu.

13:43 He thinks it's weird.

13:44 He's like, I don't want a sweaty man all over me.

13:45 And that's obviously a huge part of my life.

13:47 You know, he hadn't hunted until last year, you know, super reformed and, you know, grew

13:52 up a charismatic and all this other stuff.

13:55 And even our wives before have been like, I have no idea why y'all are friends, but we

13:58 just are he and I also have significant areas of overlap.

14:02 We're in the same Sunday school.

14:04 He's obviously been a part of the forging table from the very beginning.

14:07 He takes the scripture very, very seriously.

14:10 And so with Russ and with Ryan, we have our significant differences and yet we still love

14:16 each other.

14:17 We're there for each other and we'll get more into that here in a second.

14:20 So the day that Roman died that morning, I was supposed to be driving to West Monroe,

14:27 Louisiana, to go hang out with the duck dynasty crew.

14:30 That's something I do every summer.

14:31 I go down there and I do the unashamed podcast.

14:34 And at this point, I'd given him a heads up like, look, I'm kind of on call for my dog.

14:38 He'll probably make it, but it's rough and all that type of thing.

14:40 And then obviously he didn't make it.

14:42 And so instead of driving to West Monroe, Louisiana, here I am about to dig my dog's grave in 100

14:49 plus degree weather in Oklahoma at two o'clock in the afternoon.

14:52 Okay.

14:54 But there are certain times in our lives guys and hopefully you've experienced something

14:57 like this where your friends are actually your brothers and you actually realize that

15:02 these aren't, these aren't just dudes that are in my life.

15:05 These aren't just Facebook friends.

15:06 These aren't just guys I used to hang out with at the fraternity house, but these are

15:09 actually my brothers because I can't talk to anybody.

15:14 Like I'm driving to go pick up my dead dog and I'm driving back.

15:18 But whenever I get back to my house, Russ had already been there.

15:27 He was watering the ground around where we were going to be digging.

15:31 So it'd be a little bit easier to dig.

15:36 I didn't ask him to do that.

15:38 My wife didn't ask him to do that.

15:40 He found out what happened to Roman and he just showed up.

15:47 So then I get there, Russ is there.

15:50 He's got a shovel and some work gloves and we get to work.

15:53 We started digging a hole and we're maybe 20 minutes into the process of digging this

15:59 hole, which, you know, if you've tried to dig through Oklahoma Red Clay, you kind of

16:03 know what that's like.

16:04 And then Ryan shows up.

16:06 He showed up with a big tent, like a, I don't know what you would call it, like it's not

16:10 like a camping tent, but one of those like on like tents that you put over where you could

16:13 do like a picnic or something, and he put that over where it would be working.

16:17 So we would have a little bit of reprieve from the sun and he brought a little, you

16:20 know, I almost said boom box.

16:22 What is it?

16:23 1988.

16:24 He brought a little Bluetooth speaker and put some music on and we just were digging.

16:29 And my sons were out there because I wanted to make sure that they were a part of this.

16:32 Again, they're foreign to so they don't really understand death, but I wanted them to kind

16:35 of see what was happening and all the while, you know, Romans inside, you know, in a bag.

16:42 And so we dig and we dig and we dig and, you know, they kept Ryan and Russ kept imploring

16:48 me to take breaks because it was so hot and all that and I just said, thank you, but no,

16:52 thank you.

16:53 Like this is my job.

16:54 And so they kept switching on and off and I was just in there the whole time and we finally

16:56 get the hole to an appropriate depth.

16:59 And it's time to go get my dog.

17:01 So I go inside and I grab his body and he's a giant Schnauzer.

17:04 So he weighs every bit of a hundred pounds and it's of course dead weight now.

17:08 So I carry him all the way out to the hole and I set him down and then, you know, Ryan

17:13 and Russ are there and my boys are there and my wife are there and then I just ask for

17:16 a minute to just say goodbye alone.

17:22 So, so they gave me that they cleared the grave site and I got on my knees and I said

17:32 my goodbyes and, you know, then, uh, then out of the, you know, from my right side for

17:46 my peripheral vision, I see a Glenn Caring glass and a new bottle of our bag that Ryan

17:55 had walked over.

17:56 He had three Glenn Caring gases and one good Glenn Caring glasses, one for me, one for himself

18:01 and one for Russ, by the way, don't drink scotch when it's a hundred degrees outside.

18:06 It's a terrible idea, but you know, given the circumstances, we made it happen.

18:10 So he pops the lid on this hard bag, he pours some and all three of our glasses.

18:15 We all pour a little on the ground, pour a little bit in the, uh, in the grave and we

18:19 all take this hard bag and then we get back to work.

18:24 And so we start covering them up, bearing them.

18:26 My boys are out there for it.

18:27 And then, you know, we, we got them buried, put the grass back on top and, you know, that

18:32 was that so you might be wondering almost 20 minutes into this.

18:38 Why are you sharing all this?

18:40 Why are you choosing to cry on your microphone?

18:42 Believe me, this is not a choice I'm making right now.

18:45 I'm choosing to record.

18:46 I'm not choosing how I'm responding to it, but you know, am I trying to gain sympathy

18:50 from you?

18:51 No.

18:52 Am I trying to emotionally manipulate you?

18:54 No.

18:55 I'm sharing this because I want you guys to fervently and seriously ponder this question.

19:05 Do you have guys that'll help you bury your dog?

19:12 And not just like your dog, like, ah, this is just kind of, you know, a dog and, you

19:16 know, maybe you live out in the country and dogs are just like every other animal.

19:18 And when it starts to limp, you just take it out and shoot it.

19:20 I mean, like your companion, your best friend.

19:25 Do you have guys that'll help you bury your dog, your best friend?

19:31 And I mean that truly, I want you to ponder that if that question caught you by surprise

19:38 or as soon as I said it, you had a pit in your stomach, I would encourage you to pause this

19:42 right now and reckon with what I just asked you again, do you have guys that'll help you

19:48 bury your dog, your best friend?

19:51 And to be clear, I don't just mean, could you shoot a text out and ask some fellows

19:58 to help you do some manual labor?

20:00 I would assume that most of you guys have that.

20:02 Most of you guys have someone that, you know, if push really came to shove, they would help

20:05 you load up a U-Haul or they'd help you, you know, move a squat rack or they'd help you,

20:09 you know, unload a refrigerator from your truck.

20:11 Like, I assume some of you guys have that.

20:15 What I mean is do you have guys that will stop everything that they're doing?

20:23 Pause their entire life, not only to physically help you do something, but to get up under

20:30 the weight of that emotional bar on your shoulders to take some of that weight off your back.

20:38 Do you have guys like that?

20:43 Because again, I need to remind you, I didn't ask Russ or Ryan to come help.

20:51 Neither did my wife.

20:53 These two men found out what happened to Roman.

20:56 They knew exactly what that dog meant to me, exactly what that dog meant to me.

21:02 They cleared their schedules to come and help me do one of the hardest things that I've

21:07 ever had to do, which was bury him, and guess what, there were several other foxhole friends

21:13 of mine that were so angry that they couldn't be there to help.

21:19 They were out of town or they were just completely covered up.

21:23 They literally could not get there in time to help me, but they would have been.

21:32 There were several that were like crap, I'm this many hours away, are you still going

21:37 to be there and it just wasn't going to work out?

21:44 You guys have heard me talk about the foxhole all the time, right?

21:47 I just mentioned it earlier with Russ, my foxhole episode.

21:50 You've heard me talk about the concept of a foxhole.

21:52 I talk about it constantly.

21:55 Whether you're a longtime listener of the show or whatever, you've seen me talk live.

21:59 You've heard me talk about this concept and a foxhole is just a group of men that push

22:03 each other to cultivate spiritual, mental, and physical resilience on a daily basis.

22:07 That's what a foxhole is, a group of men that push each other to cultivate spiritual, mental,

22:11 and physical resilience on a daily basis.

22:13 I've been encouraging you guys for years at this point to develop your own foxholes.

22:20 That's always been my language, right?

22:22 That's the language that I've chosen, but over the years, I've expanded to basically say

22:27 the same thing, but in different ways.

22:30 It's very similar to when I speak live.

22:31 I'm driving the train the whole time and I'm trying to get you to a particular station,

22:36 but I know that you guys aren't always listening to every word that I'm saying and maybe some

22:40 way that I'm saying it isn't exactly landing with you, so I'm trying to put as many hooks

22:43 in the water as possible because one of them is going to get you, so maybe the foxhole

22:47 concept hasn't landed with you, but whenever I talked about what a 3 AM friend is on my

22:52 Glover's podcast back in December and we went mega super duper viral and our show shot to

22:57 the top 150 of all the shows in existence, it's because of me talking about a 3 AM friend.

23:02 And if you didn't catch that or if you've never heard me talk about that before, it's

23:06 because all of us have guys that are 6 PM friends that until about 6 PM, if you need help doing

23:13 anything like any of those manual labor things I talked about earlier, if you have a question

23:17 or something like that, they're available, but after that, they're just too busy.

23:21 But a 3 AM friend is a guy that you know when you call them and your life is absolutely

23:25 falling apart because nobody calls you a 3 AM, just say what's up except for crazy people.

23:30 But if your buddy's calling you a 3 AM, some is really, really, really wrong.

23:35 And a 3 AM friend is a guy that you know, not only is he going to answer, and this is

23:39 how I've always explained it, you can hear him getting on his pants, you can hear him

23:42 clicking his pistol in the appendix position, and you can hear him messing around in the

23:47 shed grabbing a shovel because he's just assuming at that moment that we're burying a body.

23:51 Now, some people have taken that to mean that I'm encouraging you to do murder and to cover

23:57 up felonious murder with your friends.

23:58 That's not what I'm explaining.

24:00 It's an extreme version of a concept that I'm trying to get you to understand.

24:04 Do you have a friend like that?

24:05 Do you have a 3 AM friend?

24:07 But I've also said it in other ways.

24:09 I've talked about, and I'm on my way friend, okay?

24:12 So I'll say this story quickly because I've said it a lot on the show, but we get new

24:15 listeners every week.

24:16 One of my buddies, Adam, well, I'll back up when my first son James was six weeks old,

24:21 he had to be rushed to the hospital in the middle of the night to have emergency surgery.

24:24 This is, you know, a terrible serious situation.

24:27 So we leave the house.

24:28 We have two dogs at that moment, you know, Roman and Otis, and we just leave.

24:32 We have no concern for them.

24:33 Who's going to take them out?

24:34 Who's going to feed them?

24:35 Because we're super concerned about our six week old baby, our firstborn.

24:38 And so the next morning, I get a call from Adam, who's another foxhole guy of mine, and

24:44 he says, Hey, I'm on my way to your house to take care of your dogs.

24:48 Just let me know how I can get inside.

24:50 I don't have to break a window.

24:52 So he didn't send me a text saying, Hey, praying for your brother.

24:54 There's nothing wrong with that.

24:55 But he didn't just send a text.

24:57 He didn't just say, if there's anything I can do for you, just let me know because that's

25:01 what we all kind of default to, but what you've done is you've transferred the burden onto

25:04 the person who's in pain to come up with something for you to do so that you feel better.

25:09 It's problematic.

25:11 He identified this, you know, he took stock of the situation.

25:15 He identified something that was missing.

25:17 And he said, I can fill that gap.

25:19 And this guy had never taken care of our dogs for you, never taken them out.

25:22 He didn't know any of that, but he just wanted to make sure he didn't have to kick a door

25:25 in.

25:26 Right?

25:27 That's an I'm on my way, friend.

25:28 And then we got the who's car we're going to take friend.

25:31 Some of you guys automatically know what I'm talking about.

25:32 One of my favorite movies, the town, Ben Affleck comes into the room and you know, this,

25:37 his best friend is there watching television and Ben Affleck's character comes in and

25:41 he says, I need your help.

25:44 I can't tell you what it is.

25:46 You can't ask me about it later and we're going to hurt some people.

25:49 And his buddy just sits there and goes, who's car we going to take?

25:54 That's a dude that's just about it.

25:56 Now I'm not endorsing what they did next in the movie for a lot of reasons.

26:00 But it's that concept.

26:02 It's a foxhole guy.

26:03 It's a three a.m.

26:04 friend.

26:05 It's an I'm on my way, friend.

26:06 It's a who's car we going to take friend.

26:07 So guys, I ultimately don't care how you describe it.

26:12 But I'm going to keep describing it in different ways until it breaks through with you.

26:15 So call it whatever you want.

26:17 But this is the message.

26:19 If you don't have a group of men around you, a group of serious dudes, a group of killers

26:25 that are ready to throw down for you spiritually, mentally and physically at a moment's notice,

26:31 then you will straight up die on the vine.

26:35 And a lot of you already inherently know that because as people point out before I think

26:40 this is Joby's thing, it's like, if you wait until it's time to retire to start saving

26:45 for retirement, it's way too late.

26:46 The same is true for investing in relationships with other men and for the ladies listening

26:51 for you as well with your lady friends.

26:53 Okay?

26:54 But for you guys, you love to lament, I don't have anyone I can trust and I'll have anybody

26:59 that I could, you know, trust in a foxhole and these guys just aren't like me and all that.

27:04 And complaining to figure out a way to make it happen, figure out a way to get a group

27:10 of guys around you that you can rely on them and they can rely on you.

27:15 Again, I'll say this when I had some crazy stuff going on earlier this year, a bunch

27:19 of dudes in my life stepped up big time to help me out, okay, to help our family out.

27:25 And the thing about that situation was is for all these years, I thought I'm making these

27:30 investments and these other guys, you know, one day they're going to need me and I'm going

27:33 to be there and they're going to know it.

27:35 And it was the exact opposite, right?

27:37 It was the exact opposite.

27:38 I needed them and I'm so thankful that I had taken the time, energy and effort to invest

27:44 in them spiritually, mentally and physically and just in general as a friend to where when

27:49 push came to shove, they were there for me.

27:52 And this latest circumstance with my dog is no different.

27:57 But for those of you that don't have that, what is your plan exactly?

28:03 Because I'm sure you know this, but circumstances will befall you at some point in your life

28:09 if they haven't already that are way too overwhelming for you to handle.

28:14 It might be the death of a dog.

28:16 Some of you are like, this guy's getting really upset about a dog because it wasn't just a

28:19 dog to me, right?

28:20 It was literally my best friend.

28:22 Maybe it's going to be your best human friend.

28:25 Maybe it's your spouse.

28:26 Maybe it's the death of a child.

28:27 Maybe it's getting screwed out of your business by your business partner.

28:30 Maybe it's just that phone call that you're getting from a family member where you learn

28:33 some deep dark secret about your family that you never thought that you would ever, ever

28:38 in a million years have to digest who you're going to lean on.

28:44 You you're going to lean on you.

28:48 You're going to do this Western machismo thing.

28:51 This pull yourself up by your bootstraps thing.

28:53 Because I don't need anybody, this lone wolf thing, this Clint Eastwood Western thing.

28:59 Guys alone wolf dies.

29:02 You do realize that, right?

29:04 Wolves are in packs.

29:05 But when a wolf, especially like even alphas, whenever they have aged out of the pack, they

29:11 go out and they die alone.

29:13 Some of them do die of natural causes or they starve to death or freeze to death, but many

29:17 of them are killed by other predators.

29:21 That's what happens to a lone wolf.

29:23 All these dorks out there on Instagram and all these, like some Christian male influencers,

29:27 but just these male influencers that are like, do your own thing and like, don't ever trust

29:32 anybody.

29:33 And like, you can only rely on yourself and what's the quote from Scarface?

29:36 It's like, I've got my balls and my word and that like, that's all you need and that type

29:39 of stuff.

29:40 No, Jesus had 12 dudes in his foxhole.

29:46 He handpicked them and he needed them before I read, before I started recording this podcast,

29:53 you'll be encouraged me to read John 11.

29:56 That's where Jesus arrives after the death of Lazarus, right?

30:00 And Jesus wept who was in the presence of him when he wept his disciples, specifically

30:07 the 12 apostles that he handpicked.

30:13 Our savior got upset and died or he got upset when his friend died, even though he knew what

30:20 he was about to do, but he also had the support of his brothers.

30:27 Do you have that?

30:30 Because guys, if you're waiting for the negative circumstances to befall you before you start

30:36 to make those investments, it is too late.

30:39 Now you might have some guys that are just good, good guys, good solid American country

30:43 boys come over and they might help you out and, oh man, I'm so sorry for you, but you

30:48 know that at surface level, you know, their wife probably just was texting with their

30:52 wife and I was like, man, you really should go over there and see him and just give him

30:56 a high five, maybe take him a six pack and you know, just tell him it'll be okay.

31:00 But you know what it's like whenever a guy's doing that for real, when a guy's doing that

31:04 because he knows what it means to you and inherently he knows what it's going to mean

31:09 to him later in life when you do that for him.

31:13 So Joby said and has said multiple times on my show like a jerk that dogs likely aren't

31:21 in heaven and that I'm not even going to care if Roman is there or not.

31:27 Now I don't know if I agree with that and I certainly don't know that I can, you know,

31:33 I can't prove to you that all dogs go to heaven.

31:37 But if some of them do, then all I can say is that I'm very much looking forward to seeing

31:42 my boy again.

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33:39 All right, so let's go from tears of despair to probably tears of anger.

33:43 So this story, if you want to know whether or not feminist groups are completely full

33:47 of crap, then you've got to dig into the story.

33:50 So this is the two biological males winning gold medals in women's boxing at the 2024

33:55 Summer Olympics in Paris.

33:56 I literally almost blew up my entire schedule because I wanted to record this, but I'm glad

34:00 I kind of had some time to gather my thoughts here.

34:03 But the Paris Olympics had so many headlines.

34:07 There was the sacrilegious and ridiculous opening ceremonies, which obviously they've

34:10 been talked about in azimuth at this point, so I don't really need to add my feedback

34:14 to it.

34:15 You had the black podium drama in the women's gymnastics where there were there were some

34:22 ombiles who's black and then there was a Brazilian gymnast androge that was black.

34:27 And then there was another gal that was like in fourth place, it's a black girl from America.

34:32 But like they challenged some ruling that like made one of the girls drop a spot.

34:38 They said she had stepped out of bounds when you could clearly see that she hadn't stepped

34:41 out of bounds.

34:42 And so it bumped the other black gymnast from America up to the podium.

34:46 And so we had three black girl gymnasts on the podium and that was like the first time

34:50 there had ever been three black gymnasts on the podium.

34:54 And that was supposed to be a big deal.

34:55 But then afterwards they rejiggered all the numbers again and then that girl, that one,

35:00 the bronze actually had to give the bronze back, but they had already gotten the picture

35:03 and all that.

35:04 So that was kind of stupid.

35:05 You had the female breakdancer from Australia.

35:07 That might be the highlight of the entire thing.

35:09 And then she's been complaining afterwards because she got like a zero scorch by the way,

35:13 breakdancing in the Olympics.

35:14 What is wrong with y'all breakdancing?

35:17 But they have this woman from Australia, this professor, she did this ridiculous thing where

35:22 she basically spazzed on the ground for however long the thing was and then she just got destroyed

35:28 for it.

35:29 So there was that.

35:30 Then you had the Turkish air pistol guy that you know there's guys just wearing glasses

35:34 with his hand in his pocket and he got the silver medal when all these other guys, they

35:37 look like they're in some crazy Star Wars movie trying to basically shoot this target.

35:41 Here's a guy just, you know, I'm just good at shooting and he gets a silver medal.

35:45 And you've got the US winning the medal count but tying China for gold and people are like

35:49 that's kind of pathetic because, you know, the US had so many more athletes competing

35:53 at the games than China but it's kind of not really accurate because again, you'll have

36:00 11 guys on the USA basketball team trying to win one medal and they'll have one guy from

36:06 China trying to win one medal and diving.

36:08 And so it's not exactly the same thing and also they've got like three times a population

36:10 of us.

36:11 And so the fact that we have that many more athletes than them competing at the Summer

36:14 Olympics, that's a China problem, okay?

36:16 But the most important story of the Olympics by far because of the ramification, ramifications

36:23 it has for our cultural moment is the two male boxers that competed in the women's boxing

36:27 division, boxing divisions.

36:29 So that was a Mon Caliph of Algeria who won the gold medal in women's welterweight in the

36:34 Lin Yutting of Taiwan, not Chinese Taipei, which is what the IOC called it, but Lin Yutting

36:39 of Taiwan who won gold in the women's featherweight division.

36:42 So neither one of those guys lost a single round in the entire tournament, which in boxing,

36:49 again, you might dominate, but you'll give away some rounds, but neither one of these

36:53 guys lost rounds.

36:55 Now there is essentially no reason for me to ever talk about women's boxing on the show

37:01 because there's not really anything to talk about normally with women's boxing because

37:04 it's not very exciting boxing, even with the men is sometimes not exciting.

37:08 So much less with the women would it be exciting.

37:10 It's important for us today because both Iman and Lynn are male.

37:15 They are definitely male.

37:18 Now you might be thinking Kyle, that's crazy.

37:22 They have separate male and female divisions of the same sport for a reason.

37:27 Why would the International Olympic Committee allow men to compete against women in general,

37:33 much less in a violent sport like boxing?

37:35 Well, we have to go all the way back to 2023.

37:40 Where would they have the world championships?

37:42 Okay, at the world champions chips that year, I guess prior to the event, the IBA, which

37:47 is the International Boxing Association, which is the governing body for boxing, specifically

37:52 women's boxing, they made their boxers take a test that would determine whether they have

37:58 XX chromosomes, which is female or XY chromosomes, which is male.

38:03 Now, you'll notice that this test doesn't potentially give a third result as an option.

38:10 It'll either come up XX or XY, there's not a third option, but I digress.

38:15 Now both Iman Khalif and Lynn Youting tested positive for XY chromosomes.

38:22 They tested positive for XY chromosomes.

38:26 My understanding is that they took multiple tests, multiple times, and they gave the same

38:32 result, thus showing that they are both, in fact, male.

38:38 Now, because of those test results, the IBA rightly banned both fighters from competing

38:44 in the world championships last year.

38:46 Okay.

38:47 And here's an interesting thing.

38:48 There's so many interesting things about the story.

38:49 So here's one of them, neither Iman Khalif nor Lynn Youting appealed this determination

38:56 from the IBA, neither one of them appealed it.

39:01 So for those of you with daughters out there, let's just say your daughter is playing a

39:04 sport and they do a chromosome test just to make sure.

39:08 And you know it's your daughter.

39:10 You can tell from a lot of different ways that this is your daughter, always been your

39:14 daughter.

39:15 And then if something went weird with one of the tests and they came back with XY, you

39:19 would appeal the decision because you're like, it's something obviously went wrong in the

39:23 lab or the factory that made this test.

39:25 Like let's go ahead and appeal this and do the test again.

39:29 Neither team did that.

39:31 So fast forward to the 2024 Olympics and Paris.

39:34 Both Iman Khalif and Lynn Youting beat out all of the other female competition in their

39:39 home countries to quote unquote earn a spot to represent those countries in the Olympic

39:43 games.

39:44 But wait, Kyle, didn't you just say that it was confirmed that both Iman Khalif and Lynn

39:48 Youting are males?

39:50 Yes.

39:51 That is in fact what I just said.

39:53 But wait, wouldn't that mean that the IOC would not allow them to compete against women

39:58 in boxing? Well, apparently no, it doesn't mean that.

40:02 Why?

40:04 Because the IOC has decided to not subject their athletes to genetic testing.

40:11 They only do partial testing for performance enhancing drugs.

40:15 So the IOC allowed Iman Khalif and Lynn Youting to compete as long as their testosterone levels

40:21 were under the accepted threshold for women's boxing.

40:25 Now this story broke into the mainstream after Iman Khalif had a match with Angela Carini

40:32 of Italy.

40:33 So video surfaced of their very short match because again, like women's boxing matches

40:37 don't go viral for basically any reason.

40:40 I can count on one hand and still have several fingers left.

40:43 The number of times I've been sent, you know, woman's knockout from from boxing.

40:47 It just doesn't happen very often.

40:50 So Iman Khalif first, the first punch that he threw dislodged Carini's chin strap on

40:57 her headgear.

40:59 Now maybe the headgear wasn't really fastened all that tight, but I've put on boxing headgear

41:03 before.

41:04 Typically, one of the things that you have to make sure is that the chin strap, which

41:08 is the only thing that keeps it on your head is tight.

41:11 Iman Khalif's first punch dislodged Carini's chin strap.

41:14 Okay, those shots were followed up by more shots that made Carini drop to one knee.

41:21 After Carini gathered herself, she re-entered the fight only to get smashed in the face

41:25 with another shot that caused her to turn her back and return to her corner and stop

41:30 the fight, thus making it a TKO, a technical knockout.

41:34 The fight ended in, I think it was 46 seconds, around 45 seconds into the first round.

41:40 Carini refused to shake Iman Khalif's hand after the bout, Carini was visibly upset

41:46 after the match.

41:47 She basically crumbled to the match.

41:48 She was so visibly upset afterwards.

41:52 She said that, you know, she was fighting for her father's memory and all that and fighting

41:55 for Italy and all that, but that she had never been hit so hard in her entire life.

42:01 Now, she's a woman's boxer, but for any of you that know anything about women's mixed

42:05 martial arts, which would include boxing or kickboxing or more tired jiu-jitsu or wrestling,

42:10 almost always these women will spar with other men because there's not enough women to fill

42:15 up these gyms typically.

42:17 She said she had never been hit so hard in her entire life, so that would likely include

42:21 the men that she's sparred with, okay.

42:23 It also appeared that Carini's nose may have been broken in the bow, but I couldn't confirm

42:28 that, but it seemed like she had a broken nose.

42:31 So it was after this fight that it went viral that Iman Khalif and Lin Yuting had tested positive

42:36 for XY chromosomes at the previous year's World Championships, but were allowed to compete

42:39 in the Olympics anyway.

42:41 So to people with normal functioning brains, including myself, we were very, very angry

42:48 about this.

42:49 Like of all the things, it's bad enough when a male swimmer is allowed to compete against

42:55 female swimmers because of the real injustice of it.

42:58 So if there's 10 people in a race, that male stole a spot from a real life woman so that

43:06 they could basically play fantasy land.

43:08 That's bad enough, but no one's getting beat up in a swim meet, okay.

43:15 Boxing people have called it's a blood sport.

43:18 It's a sport centered on violence and the fact that the IOC was allowing a male to compete

43:23 in a violent sport against a female was unforgivable.

43:27 But immediately guys, and you've seen this, and some of you, I'm going to be turning your

43:31 opinions around here because immediately the misinformation and disinformation campaigns

43:35 started and almost all of them came from leftist progressives, okay?

43:40 All these leftist progressive news sources, New York Times, Washington Post, Vox, AP, they

43:46 were all saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, like they tested positive for XY chromosomes,

43:50 but they are indeed female, but they wouldn't explain.

43:55 They would just exclaim, but not explain.

44:00 And then there were a lot of people I even heard on Joe Rogan recently, like, oh, it's

44:02 more complicated than, you know, they're not just straight up males and all that type

44:07 of thing.

44:08 There was all this misinformation, disinformation going on.

44:11 There was so much kerfluffle over this that the IOC sent out a spokesperson named Mark

44:16 Adams to do a press conference.

44:18 The IOC doesn't do press conferences during the Olympics unless something has gone horribly

44:22 wrong.

44:23 Okay.

44:24 They did a press conference defending the IOC's decision to allow a Mon Caliph and Lynn

44:27 Eugene to compete.

44:28 So you would think that he would come out and say that the IBA's tests were wrong, that

44:34 they were old, that they didn't really do it right, and that a Mon Caliph and Lynn Eugene

44:39 were actually biological females, right?

44:41 That's what you would expect.

44:43 You would think that he would come out and say that the IOC respects female athletes and

44:48 they would never ever subject a female athlete to the dangers of fighting men.

44:54 That's what you would expect.

44:55 And if you thought either of those things, you would be super duper wrong.

44:59 This is what Mark Adams's defense was for allowing a Mon Caliph and subsequently Lynn

45:04 Eugene to compete in the Olympics.

45:06 So he was specifically asked about a Mon Caliph, and this is what he said.

45:11 She was registered female at birth.

45:14 She lived her life as a female.

45:16 She's only ever boxed in competitions against other females, and she has a female passport.

45:25 She says female on her passport.

45:28 I'm serious.

45:29 That's all he said.

45:30 Hey, how do we know if Mon Caliph is actually female?

45:34 Well, she was registered female at birth.

45:36 She lived her life as a female.

45:37 She's only ever boxed in competitions against other females.

45:40 She has a passport that says female.

45:42 Now, if you're paying attention, I know what you're probably thinking, but Kyle, none of

45:48 those things actually prove that a Mon Caliph is a woman to which I would say ding, ding,

45:54 ding.

45:55 Of course, of course, they don't prove that they're a woman, like just look at yourself.

46:00 If you're one of my male listeners, listen to this right now, let's say that they checked

46:03 the female box at birth, let's say that your parents gave you a female name.

46:07 They only dressed you in women's clothes.

46:09 Let's say you only ever played sports against girls, and then you got a passport and said

46:13 female on it.

46:14 Does that make you female?

46:15 Of course not.

46:16 Of course it doesn't, but do you know what we can do to prove whether or not someone is

46:21 male or female, you give them a genetic test, tests that both a Mon Caliph and Lin Eugene

46:27 failed.

46:28 They failed the test to be a woman, right?

46:31 That would reveal whether or not they are a woman.

46:34 Now, also, this is interesting.

46:36 I'm pretty sure that this is true, but in every single Olympic sport, the IOC allows

46:41 the governing body of that sport, whether it be swimming or equestrian or diving or table

46:46 tennis or whatever.

46:48 The IOC lets that governing body determine who is eligible to compete in the Olympics

46:53 and who is not, so they can kind of set up their own rules.

46:57 But the only sport that the IOC said, "No, we're going to ignore that sports governing

47:01 body and we'll decide who's eligible to participate is women's boxing."

47:08 In an Olympics where there are two males wanting to compete in women's sports and the women's

47:12 division in boxing, the IOC magically gets rid of the authority of the IBA.

47:18 Isn't that so unbelievably interesting?

47:21 Why?

47:22 It's almost as if they're trying to push a particular agenda.

47:25 Now, some people have said some really dumb things surrounding this, which is, "Well,

47:30 have you inspected their crotches to see if they have a penis?"

47:34 At which point, I would say, "No, you freak," because you don't actually have to subject

47:40 an athlete to that level of screening.

47:43 But I've already established that there are real-life physical abnormalities where I

47:49 could...

47:50 Well, actually, let me talk about that.

47:51 There are real-life conditions, physical abnormalities, genetic abnormalities, where

47:57 a male would not present as a male according to their crotch, meaning you would not be able

48:04 to visibly see a penis and testicles on their crotch, okay?

48:10 So for some people, they might have an inverted penis.

48:13 They might have testes that are still inside their body.

48:17 There are some people...

48:18 This is very, very, very rare.

48:20 They are born with a vagina and a penis and testicles, okay?

48:24 These are abnormalities.

48:27 So you could inspect these two guys' crotches, these two boxers, and come away with a conclusion

48:32 that they might be female because perhaps they have a micro penis or an inverted penis

48:38 or their testicles are still inside their body.

48:40 So you wouldn't be able to just look at them and tell just by looking at their crotches.

48:45 But do you know how I can make sure my eyes aren't deceiving me?

48:50 Again, I could do a genetic test, which they both took, which they both failed, and don't

48:57 forget neither of them challenged the results.

49:01 Their coaches didn't challenge the results.

49:03 Their families didn't challenge the results.

49:04 Their countries that they're representing did not challenge the results of the test.

49:09 You have to ask yourself why they didn't appeal.

49:12 Why would they not appeal?

49:15 So we know how the story ends already.

49:17 In Monke-Levenlin, you ting both one gold, thus wasting all the time, effort, and training

49:21 of actual women that wanted to desperately compete in a fair competition for the glory

49:26 of their countries and women's boxing.

49:28 But we need to get to the fallout of all this because there's really a lot to consider

49:31 on this story.

49:33 There were a lot of people swearing up and down that we're just all wrong about this,

49:38 that we're the ones spreading misinformation about a Monke-Levenlin, you ting, because

49:41 they are indeed female.

49:43 Okay?

49:44 So again, people were bringing up rare genetic deformities.

49:47 So all of a sudden, all these people were Wikipedia doctors and they're informing the

49:51 public about these random genetic deformities where there's ambiguous genitalia or micropienuses

49:57 or all this other stuff.

49:58 Okay?

49:59 Even if I were to grant you that.

50:02 There's a major problem with your argument.

50:05 And it's this.

50:07 To my knowledge, neither a Monke-Levenlin, you ting, nor their teams, nor their countries

50:15 cited those rare genetic abnormalities as the reason for the XY result on their genetic

50:21 tests.

50:23 So you are making an argument that the people you're defending aren't making.

50:29 Think about how stupid you look.

50:32 They're throwing out arguments for them to use that they are not using, which makes you

50:35 have to ask, why are they not using those arguments?

50:40 So there's that, but even beyond that, I've got some breaking news for leftist progressives

50:44 that apparently can't read.

50:47 There is no third category for human sex.

50:52 There's no third category.

50:55 There's male and there's female.

50:58 That's it.

51:00 That's why even if a Monke-Levenlin, you ting, did have a rare genetic condition, which again,

51:05 they did not claim that in and of itself would not create a third category of human, a third

51:12 category of sex.

51:15 It would simply mean that the female, XX, or the male XY had a deformity of some kind.

51:21 So I've seen Matt Walsh use examples like this before and I think it's helpful.

51:25 Let's say someone was born without a thumb on their left hand, okay?

51:28 So they don't have a thumb.

51:29 That wouldn't mean that there would be all of a sudden this need to have a new category

51:34 of human.

51:37 That person has a physical abnormality, yes, but they're still able to fit perfectly in

51:42 either female, XX, or male, XY sex categories, okay?

51:47 We don't have a third category.

51:49 It's a deformity.

51:50 Also, I would not put my money on this being the case, but there is a chance, albeit a

51:58 very, very, very, very small chance that both of these men thought that they were women

52:03 right up until the world championships last year when they tested positive for Y chromosomes,

52:08 which means they are in fact male.

52:11 There is a possibility that it was a shock to both of these guys that they were in fact

52:15 males.

52:17 And here's the thing.

52:18 We'll change a, change a pace and change a tone here.

52:20 If that's the case, then I acknowledge that that had to be absolutely and completely heartbreaking

52:27 to them as individuals, as image bears of God, it had to have been crushing to their families.

52:34 Like that's certainly possible.

52:36 But just because something is plausible does not mean that it is, or just because something

52:41 is possible does not mean that it's plausible.

52:43 Okay.

52:44 Again, I have to remind you of this because I want to have grace for these men.

52:48 If in fact, they didn't know that they were men, but neither of these men nor their teams

52:52 nor their countries claimed that they got breaking news last year when the genetic test

52:57 came back.

52:59 Because don't you think that would be part of the news story?

53:03 Two guys that thought they were female their entire life are shocked to learn that they're

53:08 actually males, but that wasn't the story.

53:12 Because here's the reality check, regardless of what these two were listed at, at birth

53:17 or what's on their passport or how they were raised or what their names are or what kind

53:21 of clothes that they wore growing up.

53:23 One thing is absolutely and abundantly clear.

53:26 Both Amonkaleef and Lin Yutin went through male puberty, which gives both of them huge,

53:33 distinct physical advantages over women.

53:38 What are the advantages?

53:40 So in general, right, I have to use generalities because of course, it's not true for every

53:44 single male and every single female.

53:46 But the average male has the following advantages over the average female.

53:50 They have more upper body strength.

53:52 They have more upper body mass.

53:53 They have more overall mass.

53:56 They are more powerful overall.

53:58 They are faster.

53:59 They have more fast twitch muscle fiber.

54:02 They have bigger, longer and thicker bones.

54:05 They have a larger heart.

54:06 They have larger lungs, which leads to higher levels of endurance and VO2 max.

54:11 And they have much, much, much, much more and much higher natural levels of testosterone.

54:18 So on and so forth.

54:20 So if you go through male puberty and you have all of these distinct advantages.

54:26 And then at some point in your twenties, because you want to compete against women, they start

54:31 giving you testosterone suppressants.

54:34 That does not reverse male puberty.

54:37 It will not shrink the size of your heart.

54:40 It will not change the shape of your pelvis, which will change how much force you're able

54:46 to throw into a twisting motion like a punch.

54:50 You will not change that.

54:51 It will have some physical consequences for you, sure, it'll affect you negatively in

54:56 a lot of ways.

54:57 Sure.

54:58 But you are still so far advanced in terms of athleticism than your average female.

55:05 Now I need to take a quick sidebar here before you wrap up on this story.

55:10 I saw a lot of kind of over conservative people as some of them were Christians, a lot of

55:15 more Christians that said women shouldn't even be able to compete in combat sports.

55:21 Several were making the argument that it's against a woman's nature.

55:24 A woman shouldn't even be allowed to box.

55:25 You know what?

55:26 We shouldn't even talk about the story because women shouldn't be allowed to box.

55:28 And I just got to say, I don't see it that way at all.

55:31 I don't agree with you guys at all.

55:32 You can have your opinion.

55:33 We can agree to disagree.

55:34 I don't see it that way at all.

55:36 I see nothing scripturally that would lead me to believe that a woman should never box,

55:42 do Muay Thai, wrestle, do jujitsu, any of those types of things.

55:47 Now they shouldn't do things like Wing Chun karate because those aren't real fighting

55:50 styles.

55:51 But I see no reason for real fighting styles for women not to be able to train those things.

55:55 For women to not be able to compete against other women.

55:59 Like we have female competitors at our gym in the thought that they wouldn't be able

56:03 to train to potentially defend themselves or to train for competition in sport.

56:08 It's like who are you to tell them that they shouldn't be able to do this sport.

56:13 Now they shouldn't be able to represent us on the front lines.

56:18 I've gone a record saying women should be in zero combat roles in the military and women

56:22 shouldn't be beat cops.

56:24 They shouldn't be on the beat where they're going to potentially have to, you know, as

56:27 130 pound female take down a 300 pound male that's high on meth.

56:31 No, that's a terrible idea.

56:32 It doesn't keep the populace safe.

56:34 I think it's a horrible idea.

56:35 People don't like that opinion, but it's my opinion.

56:37 So it just kind of is what it is.

56:39 But to say that boxing as a sport is against a woman's nature that you're going to have

56:44 to show me the receipts and I just don't really think that you have it.

56:47 So let's go to the big takeaway on this story.

56:50 If you are defending a Mon Caliph and Lin Yutin competing against women and boxing, then

56:55 I don't ever and I mean ever want to hear you talk about the physical abuse that some

57:03 women suffer at the hands of evil men.

57:07 I don't hear it.

57:09 You can miss me with that for ev, er, I don't want to hear it because I don't believe you

57:16 that you actually care about protecting women.

57:20 Because in this context, feminists, second, third and fourth wave feminists, I can't figure

57:24 out the whole trans thing, which again, that's not even included in this because neither one

57:29 of these guys, you know, said that they were trans, right?

57:32 They said, no, we're just straight up female, which is a lie.

57:36 You're trying to tell me that I should care about the physical abuse of women at the hands

57:41 of evil men.

57:43 Because I happen to do care about that very much.

57:46 I happen to want to make sure that any woman that's in my vicinity, that is in potential

57:50 danger by a man that I will intercede so that that doesn't happen, whether physically or

57:55 otherwise.

57:57 But you can't say that anymore because you're basically defending domestic violence.

58:02 I guess domestic, they would have to be in a relationship, but you are defending a male

58:06 getting in a ring and boxing, punching, pummeling a woman.

58:10 So I don't want to hear it.

58:13 Also, I don't ever want to hear you [inaudible] and moan about a quality of opportunity for women,

58:21 nor do I ever want to hear you complain about how women need protection from predatory men.

58:27 I have no stamina for that.

58:31 Because in this exact scenario, in those two boxing divisions, there was a woman that should

58:38 have been able to compete in the Olympics for her country to experience the opening ceremonies

58:42 and get all the free clothes from her country and get the accolades and she will always be

58:46 able to call herself an Olympian.

58:49 Two women were not allowed to do that because two men took their spots.

58:53 There's a woman in Algeria and a woman in Taiwan right now that may never be able to

58:58 call themselves Olympians, and that is a huge injustice for them.

59:04 And to all the women that should have meddled because here's the thing, women, real women

59:09 got the silver and bronze in those divisions.

59:12 But the gals that got silver probably should have gotten gold.

59:15 The gals that got bronze probably should have gotten silver and then someone who didn't

59:18 get a medal should have gotten bronze.

59:21 But instead, years and years of training, not just since the last Olympics, which was

59:26 three years ago, but years and years and years of training, these girls, some have dedicated

59:30 their entire lives to the craft of boxing, only to get in there and to be across from

59:35 a man and people are like, Oh, but these boxers are the loss before so proves that there's

59:40 not advantages.

59:41 No, it actually proves that they're just crappy boxers.

59:45 But even a crappy male boxer can beat up a female boxer.

59:49 That's elite.

59:50 We saw that with Leah Thomas, so called Leah Thomas in the pool, ranked number 400 or something

59:58 in the men's division, all of a sudden winning NCAA titles in the women's division.

1:00:02 How's that possible?

1:00:03 He's a crappy swimmer.

1:00:04 You're right.

1:00:05 He's a crappy swimmer against men, against people that have the same biological makeup

1:00:09 as him, but for a woman that he has distinct physical advantages over, it was completely

1:00:15 unfair.

1:00:16 He stole spots from women.

1:00:17 He stole trophies from women.

1:00:19 And so for all of you people that are out there defending this, hopefully I've disabused

1:00:23 you of all of your ignorance on the subject matter and we can move on.

1:00:27 So we're going to move on to the next, or this is the last thing that we're going to

1:00:30 be talking about, but this is going to take a while as well.

1:00:32 So big drink of water, throw lozins and away we go.

1:00:38 I've been wanting to talk about this for months.

1:00:40 I kept having to push it back because other subject matters, you know, like Donald Trump

1:00:44 being shot in the head, you know, Biden basically being thrown out back and then bringing in

1:00:49 common hairs.

1:00:50 But here we are finally talking about a megachurch pastor, Robert Morris, resigning after allegations

1:00:55 of him sexually assaulting a 12 year old girl.

1:00:58 So I know this story broke months ago now, but that's just the way the cookie crumbled.

1:01:02 So here we are.

1:01:04 My ultimate message on this one is that pastor Robert Morris deserves wrath.

1:01:10 He deserves wrath for what he did.

1:01:13 Well, I guess I should hedge a little bit here to avoid any slander lawsuits.

1:01:18 If guilty of the alleged crimes that I'm about to elucidate, pastor Robert Morris deserves

1:01:23 wrath.

1:01:24 Okay.

1:01:25 So again, there are allegations and then there's what can be found out in a court of law.

1:01:31 And we have to go with what can be found out in a court of law.

1:01:33 The only thing here is that he will never enter a court of law to defend himself here.

1:01:37 So we have to basically go on the allegations.

1:01:39 So for those of you who don't know who pastor Robert Morris is, he's a charismatic lead and

1:01:44 founding pastor of a megachurch in Texas called Gateway Church in South Lake, Texas.

1:01:48 The church was founded in 20 or in the year 2000.

1:01:51 And as of this year, his church has played host to more than a hundred thousand attendees.

1:01:55 That's basically every week, multiple locations spread out across Dallas Fort Worth.

1:02:00 He's written a bunch of bestselling books.

1:02:01 He has a radio show called worship and the word with pastor Robert.

1:02:05 He has broadcast in 6,800 cities, he has a TV program that is aired in almost 200 countries

1:02:09 in multiple languages.

1:02:11 Side note, this is another buddy of Craig Rochelle, by the way.

1:02:14 So remember when I said that, you know, if you surround yourself with awful people,

1:02:18 you might be an awful person.

1:02:19 So Craig Rochelle's buddies with him, he's also buddies with Bill Heibels and Andy Stanley

1:02:22 and Carl Lance and Stephen Furtick and Kanye West and Robert Morris, you know, maybe there's

1:02:26 an issue there.

1:02:27 But here's the allegations against Robert Morris again.

1:02:30 These are allegations.

1:02:32 And first of all, this is from Wikipedia, which I know Wikipedia can be a dumpster fire

1:02:36 on some things, but on Robert Morris's page, it goes into extensive detail about these

1:02:41 allegations and it provides a lot of citations.

1:02:45 So I'm just going to read from from the narrative there.

1:02:48 And so you can go and check it out yourself later.

1:02:51 On June 14, 2024, it became public on the Wartberg watch, a religious watchdog focused

1:02:56 on reporting abuse in churches that Cindy Clemenschire, a 54 year old woman had claimed

1:03:01 that on Christmas night in 1982, Morris, whom she had been staying in the same household

1:03:06 with had invited her into his room, instructed her to lay on his bed and then proceeded to

1:03:11 touch her breasts and feel under her panties.

1:03:14 At that time, Clemenschire was 12 years old and Morris was a 21 year old traveling evangelist.

1:03:22 She further claimed that similar encounters with Morris continue to occur over the next

1:03:26 four and a half years.

1:03:28 She recalled him saying, never tell anyone about this because it will ruin everything.

1:03:33 In September of 2005, Clemenschire emailed Morris asking for restitution for his actions

1:03:38 against her.

1:03:39 Morris responded, saying that he and his family and his wife cared for her and that he had

1:03:43 already obtained her and her family's forgiveness.

1:03:46 He then threatened her by saying, my attorney advises that if I pay you any money under

1:03:50 the threat of exposure, you could be criminally prosecuted and Debbie and I would not want

1:03:55 that.

1:03:56 Clemenschire further said she filed a civil lawsuit against Morris in 2005, but his attorney's

1:04:01 claim she was responsible for being flirtatious and offered her $25,000 to sign a non-disclosure

1:04:08 agreement which she refused.

1:04:09 In 2014, Morris gave a sermon saying he struggled with sexual immorality as a teenager and that

1:04:15 he learned to lie and manipulate and looked for the girls that would be the most susceptible.

1:04:20 On June the 15th, the day following the allegations coming out, Morris publicly confessed to a

1:04:24 moral failure.

1:04:26 It was reported by the Christian Post, a Christian news source that Morris had stated that he

1:04:31 previously engaged in inappropriate sexual behavior with a young lady in a home where

1:04:35 he was staying on several occasions over a period of years and that that behavior constituted

1:04:40 kissing and petting but not intercourse.

1:04:42 Morris acknowledged his actions were wrong.

1:04:45 The sexual relationship allegedly lasted between 1982 and March of 1987 when the situation

1:04:51 was brought to light as he was serving as pastor of Shady Grove Church in Grand Prairie,

1:04:55 Texas.

1:04:56 He then left ministry and underwent counseling before being approved to return in 1989.

1:05:00 He stated that he and his wife met the survivor in her family and that they asked their forgiveness

1:05:05 and they graciously forgave me.

1:05:07 Clemenschire says although she forgave Morris, she never approved of his return to ministry.

1:05:12 The board of elders at Gateway Church acknowledged that they were aware of Morris having a past

1:05:16 inappropriate sexual relationship, but they stated that it was their understanding that

1:05:20 it was an extra marital relationship, which he had discussed many times through his ministry

1:05:24 and that it was a young lady and not abuse of a 12 year old child.

1:05:28 The elders have hired a crisis management law firm to investigate the matter further.

1:05:33 At least one former church elder was aware of the 2005 emails between Clemenschire and

1:05:37 Morris, but he stated he did not fully understand the severity and the specifics of the sexual

1:05:41 abuse, nor did he know it began when she was 12 years old.

1:05:45 Though he knew she was under 18, he believed that she was of the age of consent in Oklahoma

1:05:50 which is 16.

1:05:51 Though initially receiving support from Gateway Church, Morris resigned from his role as senior

1:05:55 pastor following significant criticism over the sexual misconduct revelations.

1:06:00 Morris has not been charged with any crimes and according to Clemenschire's attorney,

1:06:04 Morris cannot be criminally charged or held civilly responsible for the abuse due to state

1:06:08 limitations that existed in the late 80s in both Texas and Oklahoma where the incidents

1:06:12 occurred.

1:06:13 State Representative Jeff Leach, chairman of the Judiciary Committee of the Texas House,

1:06:18 has called to improve laws protecting and ensuring justice for victims of childhood

1:06:22 sexual abuse and holding the perpetrators responsible in the wake of allegations.

1:06:27 Now, I keep calling them allegations, but let's be real.

1:06:32 If these were just baseless allegations coming from a woman that just wants to extort Robert

1:06:37 Morris and his church for money, then why did Robert Morris resign from his job?

1:06:47 If all this is just nonsense because public people will have stuff like this come up all

1:06:51 the time.

1:06:53 Why did Robert Morris resign and why did the elder board of his church immediately accept

1:06:58 his resignation?

1:07:02 It went viral, basically the church service after he resigned.

1:07:06 One of the elders got up and my goodness, there was a significant tone of guilt from

1:07:11 that elder as he addressed gateway church.

1:07:17 Why would there be this tone of guilt if he was innocent?

1:07:22 So we'll keep calling them allegations, but I think we need to be realistic here.

1:07:26 So I have a lot of thoughts.

1:07:28 Forgotten almost immediately in all this is that Cindy Klimenshire had to endure what

1:07:37 this man did to her for decades.

1:07:41 She had to endure that an adult sexually abuse her when she was 12.

1:07:47 Some of you guys out there right now have daughters that are around that age.

1:07:51 And boy, I can feel it through the screen right now.

1:07:53 You're about ready to spit nails and I'm there for it, right?

1:07:56 But we forgot about Klimenshire here because she's not famous.

1:08:00 She hasn't been on any bestseller list.

1:08:01 She doesn't have a radio program.

1:08:03 She doesn't have, you know, tens of thousands of people hanging on every word every week.

1:08:07 We're focusing on Pastor Morris, former Pastor Morris, thankfully.

1:08:11 But we're not thinking about Cindy Klimenshire anymore.

1:08:14 Also, there should be and this should be the least controversial thing I've said on this

1:08:20 podcast today.

1:08:22 There should be zero statute of limitations for rape and sexual assault, especially with

1:08:27 a minor, especially since most rapists are actually serial offenders.

1:08:34 So when when somebody is molested as a child and they don't think they can come forward

1:08:39 because they're being intimidated by this adult male, but then they come forward as

1:08:43 an adult in the stages, looks at them and goes, statute of limitations.

1:08:48 Because do you honestly, do you honestly think that Cindy is the only victim of Robert Morris?

1:08:57 You think she's the only one?

1:08:59 Again, I'm not making a claim from knowledge.

1:09:01 I'm making a claim from logic here.

1:09:04 I would say that is highly likely that there are many more victims.

1:09:09 Do you think he just randomly stopped doing this behavior?

1:09:14 That at some point in his 20s, he's like, ah, I'm not going to finger F 12 year old girls

1:09:20 anymore.

1:09:21 You think he just came to that decision randomly?

1:09:24 Because as I've said before, and we'll continue to say darkness doesn't stop itself.

1:09:29 It has to be stopped, especially when it's something like this.

1:09:32 So I would venture to guess that he did this to many young girls, many young girls that

1:09:38 were below the age of consent.

1:09:40 Again, remember the report, they claim that she was being flirtatious with him at the

1:09:45 age of 12.

1:09:47 You evil [inaudible] at the age of 12.

1:09:51 She was being flirtatious with you as a 21 year old man, really?

1:09:57 I mean, another thing here is shockingly and unfortunately, I saw a lot of people coming

1:10:03 to this guy's defense, I could not believe my eyes.

1:10:08 I saw tons of people coming into defense people saying, ah, well, you know, this happened

1:10:13 so long ago, right?

1:10:15 Hey, hey, hey, he's been open about his sexual sin in the past.

1:10:19 He's been open about it.

1:10:20 Hey, look, if we're just going to disqualify sinners from positions of power, then we

1:10:26 wouldn't have anyone in any positions of power.

1:10:29 And so here's the thing about the story guys at best, at best, Robert Morris is a groomer.

1:10:37 Okay.

1:10:38 But more realistically, he's a pedophilic sexual predator.

1:10:43 And somehow he's the one you've found in your heart to feel bad for.

1:10:47 Again, we forget about the gal that he did this to, and we're just concerned about his

1:10:53 heart and his feelings and what his wife must be going through and what his elders and his

1:10:57 church must be going through, and I'm not saying those things shouldn't be considered.

1:11:02 But to the detriment of the victim, really, we're concerned about the groomer because

1:11:10 guys, look, if guilty, Robert Morris deserves the death penalty.

1:11:16 I've been very consistent on this.

1:11:19 If you forcibly abuse a child sexually, you forfeit your right to live in polite society.

1:11:27 Life imprisonment is the minimum sentence he should get.

1:11:30 But instead, what he's going to get is a golden parachute of money from his congregation

1:11:34 to stack on top of the other millions of dollars that he's made off of his job that he has

1:11:38 disqualified himself for, that he actually disqualified himself for decades ago.

1:11:44 So is he having to resign in shame?

1:11:47 Yep.

1:11:48 But I guess it'll be okay when he's at some five star resort in the Bahamas, right?

1:11:54 Those people down there don't know who he is.

1:11:56 Maybe you'll have to move out of his beloved state of Texas, poor guy.

1:12:00 Maybe you'll have to get a normal haircut and grow a beard so people don't recognize

1:12:03 him in public.

1:12:04 Oh gosh.

1:12:05 I just feel so bad for him.

1:12:08 I feel so bad for him because guys, guys, I guys, I say this and I will keep saying it.

1:12:15 Don't put your faith in your favorite people.

1:12:18 Don't put your faith in your favorite pastors, your favorite athletes, your favorite politicians,

1:12:23 your favorite podcasters.

1:12:25 Maybe don't put your faith in me.

1:12:27 And guys, I have to remind myself of this as well.

1:12:30 I will not put my faith in Joby Martin or Matt Chandler or Vodie Bockham or Mark Driscoll

1:12:35 or John MacArthur or whoever I'm listening to at the moment.

1:12:41 They are fallible human beings, okay?

1:12:45 And all of those men I believe would tell you, maybe not Driscoll, but all of those men would

1:12:49 tell you that they are fallible men that you shouldn't put your faith in them either.

1:12:53 They would echo my sentiment that if you were to put your faith in them, that they will

1:12:58 let you down.

1:13:00 Now I am not claiming and I'm certainly praying the opposite happens that any of those men

1:13:05 that I've just talked about would ever do something like this.

1:13:10 But to say that it's not possible that none of these men could disqualify themselves

1:13:15 for ministry would be foolish to say that I couldn't do something that would disqualify

1:13:19 me from ministry would be foolish.

1:13:23 But I'm going to be putting my faith in Christ, this Christ that they espouse, not in them.

1:13:30 I love how Joby says it, it's like, you know, look, bounce your attention off of me and

1:13:35 on to the Lord.

1:13:36 I've heard a lot of people say that actually.

1:13:38 Like, you know, as Joby's pointed out before, like when Lucifer, before he was cast out

1:13:43 of heaven, you know, he's the worship leader and he was being looked through so people could

1:13:48 see the father and he got tired of that.

1:13:51 He wanted to be looked too.

1:13:53 So that's my encouragement to any pastors listening to this and the other podcasters.

1:13:57 Make sure people are looking to you and you're pointing their attention to Christ.

1:14:02 That's what you got to do because, you know, we had Robert Morrison and Tony Evans, like

1:14:07 we have these downfalls that came in succession and those guys are just added to the top of

1:14:11 the pile of guys that had, in some cases, decades long ministries that they had disqualified

1:14:18 themselves from, right?

1:14:20 So gosh, just don't put your faith in people.

1:14:23 You can be a fan, you can be a supporter, you can be all those things, but don't put your

1:14:26 faith in them.

1:14:27 Okay?

1:14:28 So I'm going to go to my big takeaway here on this one.

1:14:31 And this is a especially addressed to the, Hey, this happened a long time ago.

1:14:35 You know, I thought Christians were supposed to forgive.

1:14:36 This is, this is, you know, addressed to you, dorks.

1:14:39 You can receive forgiveness from God for all of your sins.

1:14:43 Okay.

1:14:45 That's what propitiation is, but that doesn't mean that you get your job back.

1:14:51 And it certainly doesn't mean that you are entitled to being restored into ministry.

1:14:56 I remember this came up with Carl Lentz when it came out that he was having a lot of affairs

1:14:59 with multiple women had been cheating on his wife for a long time systematically.

1:15:03 And people were like, okay, well, he probably needs to go away for a while, maybe go to

1:15:06 some counseling, but you know, he should be, he should be back and he should have his job

1:15:09 with Hillsong.

1:15:10 It's like, well, no, actually, like he's disqualified himself from that job.

1:15:16 He can't have that job anymore.

1:15:18 That doesn't mean he can't have any job, but he can't have that one.

1:15:21 So I actually love this commentary weeks ago, when I was looking at this, this was from

1:15:25 got questions.com.

1:15:26 I want to read this commentary here.

1:15:28 The Bible says that serving in a pastor, it is a noble task.

1:15:31 That's first Timothy, three, one, the saying is trustworthy.

1:15:34 If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task.

1:15:39 Noble work requires noble character and noble behavior.

1:15:42 Sexual sin is not noble behavior.

1:15:44 And a pastor who falls into immorality has not shown noble character.

1:15:49 Also a pastor teacher is held to a higher standard than the people he shepherds.

1:15:53 This is James three, one, not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you

1:15:57 know that those who you teach will or those who teach will be judged with greater strictness.

1:16:04 The basic standard for all believers is that there is not even a hint of sexual immorality

1:16:08 or of any kind of impurity among us.

1:16:11 This is Ephesians five, three, but sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness

1:16:15 must not be named among you as is proper among saints.

1:16:19 If pastors will receive even stricter judgment, then they should exhibit less than even a hint

1:16:25 of sexual misdeeds.

1:16:26 So you guys have heard me quote this passage before, but it's Hebrews 13 17, obey your

1:16:33 leaders and submit to them for they are keeping watch over your souls as those who will give

1:16:39 an account, let them do this with joy, not with groaning for that would be of no advantage

1:16:44 to you.

1:16:45 So guys, I am not a pastor with an official flock.

1:16:52 So I'm not going to have to give an account for how I've shepherded a flock.

1:16:56 Some people would maybe argue that I'm a pastor on this show that I'm shepherding you are

1:17:02 you know, large and vibrant and excited audience, but I don't see it that way in scripture.

1:17:07 Okay.

1:17:08 I'm going to have to give an account for every word that I've said, but not in the way that

1:17:12 a pastor is going to have to give an account for how they shepherded a flock.

1:17:17 So what Robert Morris has done and what what he's done to this gal and perhaps many others

1:17:25 is gross, terrible, and the wages of that sin is eternal death for him.

1:17:31 I got to say this and it, yeah, I'm going to say it through clenched teeth.

1:17:35 I hope he's a believer and I hope he repents of that behavior.

1:17:39 I hope when he asked for forgiveness that he meant it and I hope that he is covered by

1:17:43 the blood of lamb because there is a day coming when every single tear that shed, even the

1:17:49 ones on this podcast, it will be as if it never existed.

1:17:53 I hope the same for his victims.

1:17:55 I hope his victims have somehow been able to find a way to accept the free gift of grace

1:18:01 that was, you know, made available to us by Jesus's death on the cross in spite of what

1:18:08 their overseer, their pastor, their shepherd that was there to protect them, what they

1:18:12 did to them, what those predators, what those evil men did to them.

1:18:17 I hope that they have found a way to overcome that.

1:18:21 That is my fervent hope for them and we should want that for them as well.

1:18:26 All right, guys, for that you go, we are going to do a quick resilience boost and adult to

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1:18:34 I got to be honest with you.

1:18:35 I didn't put a bunch of links in here because I've spent so much time focusing on all those

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1:18:39 There's so much out there.

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