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- This is Undaunted Life Man's Podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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Our guys today we've got a special guest on the podcast.
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His name is Damani Felder.
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So he is a conservative Christian political commentator
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and he and I became fast friends a few months back
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when we were down in Dallas
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for the world premiere of "Uncle Tom 2."
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And obviously I've had the guys from "Uncle Tom 2"
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and "Uncle Tom 1" here on this show.
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But he and I, like I said, we became fast friends
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and we had some good discussions
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and it's like, okay, I gotta get a guy like this
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on the podcast.
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And I say a guy like this.
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The interesting thing about it
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is if you listen to the podcast,
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we don't mention for a long time
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that he's actually a black man, which shouldn't matter.
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But a lot of things that we're talking about
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in our cultural moment are obsessing
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at the altar of immutable characteristics
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like the level of melanin in your skin.
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And just hearing him talk about that
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and talk about all these different subjects
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was really, really refreshing.
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We actually started by talking about
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the midterm elections.
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And again, guys, I'm recording this
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on Friday, November the 11th.
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So this is maybe a week and a half
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before it's released.
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And so by then, hopefully Arizona and Nevada
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get their crap together
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and we're well into the runoff election there
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in the state of Georgia.
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But overall, with this conversation,
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we talked about blackness in America.
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We talked about this victimization mindset
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that a lot of people get growing up
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because for a guy like Damani,
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he was raised in a Christian household
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in a military family that moved around a lot.
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He was homeschooled.
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And so he was never really given the opportunity
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to become, to really get this victim mindset.
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And he even said himself,
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he almost fell for it during kind of the George Zimmerman,
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you know, Trayvon Martin era.
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He almost fell for this idea that
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being a black man in America
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basically is a death sentence
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and that you couldn't possibly be successful.
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You know, we also talked about, you know,
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tokenism within, you know,
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a lot of black people that are kind of taking advantage
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of that inside of the Republican side of things,
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just overall conservatism and conservative values.
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I asked him about his read, you know,
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for him being a very devout Christian,
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about a lot of Christian black folks
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that, you know, vote for the Democratic Party
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and support, you know, things like that,
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that support pro-abortion initiatives, for instance.
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And kind of where he thinks that comes from.
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We talk about defund the police
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and we had a really, really fun time
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with the, what would you say to someone that said segment?
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So you'll have to wait till the end to get that.
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But guys, I really enjoyed my time with Damani Felder.
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So without further ado, let's get into it.
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Damani Felder, welcome to Undaunted Life of Man's podcast.
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- Kyle, thanks for having me.
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It's good to be here.
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- Man, I said in the intro kind of how we met
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at the Uncle Tom II premiere and all that,
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how we kind of became fast friends
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and we're going around and you're talking
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to a bunch of tables and all that.
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And I also told you off air,
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my intention today was to do what I normally do,
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which is to set up an intro
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and like, let's get to know the person
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and let's kind of like figure out who they are
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before we just jump into the hot stuff.
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But I want to jump into the hot stuff
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right from the beginning because guys,
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I know this is a little bit late,
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but we're recording this.
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This is 11, 11 a.m. on Friday, November the 11th.
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Okay, so that's kind of weird that it's happening
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like as I look at the clock.
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But as it stands right now, Damani,
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the basically the electorate is in shambles
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'cause we have no idea who's going to be representing us.
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Okay, so we have Arizona that currently does not have
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a governor or a US senator decided upon.
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And then the same thing's happening in Nevada.
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The only thing we know for sure is that Georgia
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is going to run off of the United States Senate
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between Raphael Warnock and Herschel Walker.
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And so by the time you guys hear this,
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it'll either be the Republicans desperately trying
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to win in Georgia to get to 50/50
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or they're already at 50/50 and they're trying to get one up
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or there's a lot kind of moving and shaking right now.
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But for all intents and purposes,
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the red tsunami didn't happen, the red wave didn't happen.
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It wasn't even a red trickle.
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It was a red whimper as I called it.
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It was an incredibly disappointing night
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for most conservatives and most Republicans.
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It looks like we're gonna have a single digit lead
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in the House, which the Democrats have enough power
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to peel off six or seven votes
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to get some legislation through.
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So I just wanna tee it up to you to get your general thoughts,
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your 30,000 foot view thoughts on the midterm elections
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and then we'll start digging down into some deeper topics.
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- Yeah, the results do appear to be less
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than what we had hoped and because of that,
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we've seen many individuals on our side of the aisle
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on the right who have chosen to start turning inward
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and pointing fingers left and right.
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We know that pretty much all of this legislation
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that we're gonna be looking at for the next two years
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is going to sit on a razor's edge,
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which is why we're hoping to have more representation
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in the House and in the Senate.
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And it has been disappointing to see that there are some races
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that you would have thought would have been easy wins
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appear to be anything but exactly that.
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- So what I find very concerning though is the number
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of individuals who for one reason or another have chosen
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to start trying to place blame at different individuals' feet,
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trying to say this is why we didn't win,
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this is why we didn't win and so on and so forth.
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I'm going to keep a close eye on places like Georgia,
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even places like Arizona as well.
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We've seen what happened in Pennsylvania,
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but I would argue this is a more referendum
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of things we didn't get fixed after the 2020 election.
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Anyone out there knows that what went down in the 2020
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was not right, was not on the up and up.
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So to now see those same problems persist,
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it actually lends further credence to the notion
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that we have these powers that be
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in these liberal stronghold areas
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who are continuing to run the same play over and over again.
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And for one reason or another,
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the leadership on the right refuses to actually change
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or modify our game plan to address the plays
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we continue to see them running over and over again.
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So it is disappointing and I'm going to be keeping my eyes
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on what's going on, but as it stands today,
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it's not the best place to be after two years
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and there really should be no excuse for individuals
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to be supporting politicians.
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You did everything in their power to lock them down,
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to subjugate them, to take their ability to work away,
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to ruin their small businesses,
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while the large corporations were allowed
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to thrive like never before.
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That to me is why I can't understand
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why individuals who are on the left.
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Even chose to go out and extend the life
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of many individuals on the left side of the aisle
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who weren't supportive of those lockdown, draconian
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or well-end use whatever descriptor you want policies
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that led us to where we are today.
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But I would argue as well that a little bit
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of onus falls on the right as well,
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because that did seem to be a proclivity to look at it like,
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oh, this is going to be a red wave, it's a sure thing.
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And we saw numbers that were lower
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as far as turnout is concerned than the general election.
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That's going to happen, of course,
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because it's not a presidential election,
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but it shouldn't happen.
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We need to challenge that being the status quo
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because we've learned over these past two years
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just how important those down ballot races
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can actually be to your everyday, day in, day out life.
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And the fact that we saw very large decreases
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in some areas, some parts of the country,
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those who show that some people still do not take
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the election process seriously as they really should.
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- Well, and there's a whole lot to dig in there
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and I appreciate your overall thoughts
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and so we can kind of get down a little bit deeper.
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I think in general that heads need to roll
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with Republican leadership, certainly,
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because to not get, to not be able to pick
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the low hanging fruit in this election
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was just absolutely flummoxing.
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It should make every conservative Republican
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completely angry out there.
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And so I think that there needs to be some shakeup
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with Republican leadership.
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But then there is a lot of blame to go around.
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And so like you can look at independents,
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they actually broke by one point for Democrats
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and they were supposed to be a big wave over to Republicans.
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Republicans not having a cohesive message,
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pointing at the detriments of the other side
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as opposed to saying, "Hey, this is why our side is better."
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Yet single women, unmarried women,
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break heavily like 70% for Democrats.
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And that's abortion.
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People are saying abortion is not gonna be a big issue.
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It's not gonna be a big issue.
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The economy's too bad.
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But it looks like abortion was a major issue.
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And basically every abortion thing that was on the ballot
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in any state was upheld for abortion rights
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and things of that nature.
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But I guess we need to start from the top
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and we'll work our way down.
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The number one blame, if we're blaming it on a person
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that's coming out is being blamed on Donald Trump.
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And so I completely understand that
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and I am sensitive to that
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because he endorsed a bunch of candidates in races
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that were never gonna be competitive.
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So we don't need to look at those people.
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But in the races that were competitive,
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basically everybody that he got behind lost.
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And it wasn't particularly close.
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And then we've seen in the few days after the election
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coming out and trying to rail against Ron DeSantis.
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And today, on Friday, November the 11th,
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coming out against Governor Glenn Yunkett.
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Like, it's really just kind of odd behave,
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not really odd behavior for him.
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But it's like, is this really the guy
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that the Republicans should hold up as the leader
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for the next election cycle?
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I'm just not so sure.
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So what do you think about people
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'cause I know you're a Trump guy?
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What do you think about people that are laying the blame
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almost completely at Trump's feet?
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- Whatever there are disappointments
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individuals rush to find a scapegoat.
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Someone that it is easy to place blame at their feet
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and then move on, wash your hands up and say,
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"Well, if this person had done this,
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if this person had done that and so on and so forth,
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you would have a different outcome."
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I wanted to touch briefly on the point you mentioned
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about how unmarried single women
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did break so hard for the left.
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To a little bit of levity and humor,
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I would say that they present the strongest argument
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for appealing the 19th amendment that I've ever seen.
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But it's very unfortunate though
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that there are figures on the right
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through this midterm election cycle.
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We're not ready or able or willing
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to try to reach out to other individuals
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who they might have thought were a foregone conclusion
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or a wash for the left
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and done their best to provide different alternative
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messaging to them.
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It's almost as if as the country has become more polarized
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and more standoffish from the other side.
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We seem to look at certain areas like,
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"Okay, California, all right,
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I'm just gonna like forget about California,
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California's gone."
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There's still good people in California
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who are working hard behind the scenes
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to try to get different outcomes.
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And there still are people in California
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who may even be open to entertaining different arguments
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depending on how you're able to message
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and be strategic and reach out.
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But because our people on the right,
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for one reason or another,
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are still focused on pointing fingers
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that are looking at our own leadership,
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because I do wanna say this as well,
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we did have some very high profile losses
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and I'm gonna put a big fat asterisk next to those losses
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because we all know that those losses were driven
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by a lot of irregularities in many cases,
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driven by complete and utter failures on the right, yes,
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but driven by a lot of questions that we have as well
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for what happened truly in those races.
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But we had over 200 wins, right?
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As compared to, I believe there's roughly 16 or 17 losses
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as of the recording of this video.
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So I would argue that a lot of individuals on the right
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are missing the forest for the trees,
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either deliberately or accidentally,
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and then because we wanted to see such a large red wave,
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now all we wanna do is try to figure out
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how we can blame this on someone else.
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But I would say that the onus ultimately should fall
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on the individual because there's so many people out there
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who for one reason or another may be chose to stay home
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or sit out the midterm elections
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'cause they thought this was going to be a red wave.
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And there's people who weren't nearly as vocal
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in the midterm elections as they were
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during the presidential elections.
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So there seems to be a disconnect
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as far as it relates to the work that needs to be done.
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Scott Pressler is an individual who actually two months ago
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came out and predicted that we would not see
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a large red wave.
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And the reason that he said that probably would not happen
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was because he noticed that there seemed to be a lack
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of enthusiasm, cohesiveness, and messaging on our side.
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There's a bunch of people, a bunch of keyboard warriors
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in many cases who pretend that going and waging war online
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and tapping out fiery responses is gonna be
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how you change people's minds.
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And that's not it.
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We have to go old school.
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You have to be local.
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You have to organize at the local level.
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And then you have to actually engage.
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You have to actually show up.
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You have to actually go knock on doors.
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These are all things that you can do
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if you do wanna have a different outcome.
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But for one reason or another,
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there's a lot of people out there
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who have not seen it necessary
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for them to ask or require more of themselves.
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And then it becomes very easy.
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If you don't want to do more work yourself
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because the weekend comes and oh, you're tired.
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You don't wanna go out and block, walk, or doorknock.
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You wanna sit back and say, oh, red wave is inevitable.
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Then you can't exactly sit here
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and then try to cast blame at other people's feet.
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When you know there's more you could have done yourself.
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- So what's interesting about you bringing that up,
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I had this thought a couple of days ago, Damani,
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I was like, guys, so I always, once a year,
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at the beginning of the year, I do a,
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how to avoid being a crappy man in 2023, 2022.
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And that's, I always have these things of advice
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that men should follow if they wanna avoid
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being a crappy man.
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And one of the things that I'm gonna be doing
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for this year is like, hey, get involved locally,
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get involved in local elections,
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know what's going on in your school board, stuff like that.
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And the reason is, is because we overestimate our impact
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that we can have on our favorite sports team's performance.
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And we completely underestimate the impact we can have
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in a local city council race or something like that.
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Because we will go all out and go to our favorite sports team,
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we'll go to their playoff games and we'll support him
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and we'll yell as loud as we can and we'll come back course
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as if you yelling is gonna make the guy miss the ball
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or make them not get the first down
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or whatever the thing is for that.
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But then they won't block walk, as you said.
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They won't go and talk to people.
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They won't go and stump for people in their community
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that can actually affect their daily lives.
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So I think that's a good message.
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One thing, but before we move off the midterm stuff,
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a lot of people are saying this,
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and I'm very sympathetic to this argument,
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that candidate quality was a massive problem this go around.
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Because no matter how you slice it,
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Mehmet Oz was a horrifically terrible candidate.
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Herschel Walker was and is still
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a horrifically terrible candidate.
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And the thing is, is they lost to people
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that are horrifically evil and terrible candidates.
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So John Federman, obviously, we all know at this point,
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his brain doesn't really work anymore.
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He's gonna be a rubber stamp democratic ballot.
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If you look at the voting history of Raphael Warnock,
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it is astonishing the things that that guy believes
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and has voted for.
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And it should be very, very easy races to, I guess, pick up.
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And so I just, I don't know, I'm like pulling my hair out.
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Like what were Georgia Republicans thinking in the primary?
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What were, you know, Pennsylvania Republicans thinking
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in their primary to put those people up?
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Again, to Trump people that he heavily endorsed
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and got behind and all that.
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And it's like, almost like they were handpicked
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and they performed so poorly.
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So what are your thoughts on that?
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Because look at what happened in, you know, Florida,
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you got to Marco Rubio, and you got to Ron DeSantis,
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and you got all these other people,
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when you run good candidates,
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they tend to perform really well.
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- Yeah, that's a very good point you bring up.
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And, you know, I think what it comes down
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to what it really exposes,
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is that the Republican establishment or Trump,
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whoever you want to blame for this,
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they seem to have warmed to the idea
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of trying to beat the left at their own game.
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We know that there's many different individuals
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who do go out to the polls,
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but we do know that some individuals
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might be more inclined to than others.
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I'm gonna go all the way back to the primaries.
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When we have the primaries,
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that's the chance for you to put forth your best shot,
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and then have individuals rally around the individual
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who's going to be the best shot.
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In Georgia, I do truly believe, deep down,
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that what many on the right saw,
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was an opportunity to take the identity politics card
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off the books.
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If you have Raphael Warnock,
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then it stands to reason,
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given the unfortunate cultural and political climate
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that we have now,
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it would almost be deemed in some circles
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as political suicide to run or put up
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a primary candidate for election,
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who was not also what Raphael Warnock is,
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which is a black male.
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So, but in the efforts and trying to do that
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the way they did it,
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I fear what happened was they chose an individual
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who would have good name recognition,
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but who was untested in the political forum.
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And Herschel Walker, love him, hate him.
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He was a great athlete and lots of people
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who may be a little bit further on in life who recall him
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and have nothing but positive memories of him,
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based on what he used to do.
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He was a fantastic athlete.
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No one's ever gonna say anything beyond or against that.
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But when you look at politics,
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it's a different ball game altogether
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to use a convenient pun.
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So, putting him up,
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I understand why I believe that was the case,
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was okay, a black male for the left,
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a black male for the right.
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Take that, completely take that race card off the table.
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We might be able to make some gains, right?
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But it stands to reason that Herschel Walker
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may not be as articulate or polished
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or even have the best track record
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as it relates to social issues,
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to be running in such a hotly contested seat.
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Moving on up to Pennsylvania
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with Mehmed Oz versus John Fetterman.
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Mehmed Oz was an individual that I believe
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at least at one point or another,
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a Trump may have made a mention of that being
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a good strategic play for suburban moms,
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individuals who sit at home and who used to watch a show
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and who were very much in line or attuned
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to Mehmed Oz and what he did over the years.
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You can make that argument until the cows come home,
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but just because someone sees someone on TV
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does not mean that they're going to run
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down to the polls and vote for them.
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You have to understand that then draw distinctions
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between individuals who we deem as cultural icons
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or individuals that we see as politically savvy enough
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to possibly rest control away from the left.
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- So you bring up a lot of good points.
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I remember seeing people say when Georgia
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did so well against Tennessee in college football,
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like they basically smoked him,
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it wasn't even a competitive game.
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One of the biggest games that ever happened
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in Athens, Georgia, that that was going to carry
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a Herschel Walker across the finish line
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because again, he's a Georgia bulldog
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and kind of that whole thing.
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And I just, I remember thinking to myself,
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like, is there a knife nearby that I can just stab myself
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directly in the eyeball?
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Like, is that, but, you know, people are pretty whimsy
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with how they make voting decisions and things like that.
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So I think you bring up some good points there.
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But we obviously need to talk about the thing that,
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you know, you talk about a lot on this podcast
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and that's the concept of blackness in America.
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So to anyone not watching this right now,
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this shouldn't matter to you.
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So if you're just listening to this,
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but Damani is a black man, okay?
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So can we all just like take a deep breath
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that a man is a Republican
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and he also has a certain level of melanin
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that would make him present as a black guy?
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Here's the thing that drives me crazy.
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I grew up in a very, very diverse town, Damani.
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And I didn't realize it until I became an adult
18:57
and everyone became obsessed with diversity,
18:59
not diversity of ideas and opinions,
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but diversity of immutable characteristics.
19:03
I look back at my sixth grade, you know, class picture.
19:05
There were probably seven or eight white kids,
19:07
five or six black kids, three or four Mexican kids,
19:09
couple of Asian kids, couple of Indian kids.
19:11
We didn't, they were just kids to us.
19:13
They were just our classmates,
19:14
but we live in this current cultural milieu
19:16
where we are obsessed with the things
19:19
that people cannot control,
19:20
which is their immutable characteristics, their race,
19:23
any of those types of things, disabilities and whatnot.
19:26
And so for you, I'm just curious about
19:28
what was it in your upbringing?
19:30
Because you're our military kid,
19:31
you grew up, you know, in a bunch of different places
19:34
at a bunch of different times.
19:35
So how does someone like you,
19:37
and again, yes, I am talking about a black man,
19:39
how does someone like you come out
19:41
as a highly outspoken conservative?
19:43
Because we've been led to believe, Damani,
19:45
that that's not possible, that by dent of birth,
19:49
you are to vote blue for your entire life
19:52
and you're to love daddy government.
19:54
But you and a lot of people like you,
19:56
buck against that, take me through it.
19:58
- Yeah, absolutely.
19:59
I think what it really boils down to is the fact
20:02
that my parents chose to put education
20:05
and a love therewith at the forefront
20:08
of my upbringing.
20:11
They chose to homeschool me for all 12 years,
20:14
because even back then when my parents
20:16
were going to public school,
20:17
they realized how much of a cesspool had become,
20:20
how much of a woke spirit,
20:23
truly there is in the education system at the public level.
20:27
And they chose to homeschool us and buy homeschooling us.
20:29
They were able to introduce us to new ideas.
20:32
They were able to train us with public speaking
20:35
and the art of being able to elucidate your thoughts.
20:37
Clearly and cogently as possible.
20:40
And because I have that underpinning,
20:42
it also made it very easy for me to understand
20:45
and see the world through a lens
20:47
that was not automatically prescribed to me
20:50
by my, I'd like to call them.
20:52
State sponsored mind owners, if you will.
20:56
That's what many of these teachers are these days.
20:59
They are the ones who are going to ensure conformity.
21:02
They broke no dissent as it relates
21:04
to the public school system.
21:06
The students who speak out against them
21:08
are going to feel the full weight and wrath
21:10
of these woke teachers that are out there.
21:12
Because of that and also because of the fact
21:14
that my parents are in the military
21:16
and we moved around quite a bit,
21:18
I've moved 22 times, I've lived overseas in Greece
21:22
right after 9/11 for a couple of years.
21:24
And I've been able to see just how blessed you are,
21:26
truly to be in America.
21:28
And how many individuals out there
21:30
do take those blessings for granted?
21:32
And they always appear to think
21:34
that the grass is greener elsewhere.
21:35
And let me tell you, there is no better place to live
21:38
than in the United States of America.
21:40
And nothing is a better evidence of that
21:43
than the number of individuals who complain about America
21:46
who might be minorities, but never go somewhere else.
21:48
Because deep down, they know the blessing that they have.
21:51
But because they have signed on to a culture of assimilation,
21:56
in many cases, especially in the minority community,
21:58
then they feel as if for them to have any sort of success,
22:02
whatsoever, they're not allowed to tell the party line,
22:05
which is actually at the antithesis
22:07
of what Martin Luther King and many civil rights activists
22:09
back in the '60s fought for, which was the ability,
22:12
not just to vote one way, but the ability to vote period.
22:16
It seems that our generation, or my generation,
22:18
has forgotten the sacrifices that those who came before us
22:21
sat down so that we could simply participate in this process.
22:25
And I can't help but to think that if those civil rights
22:27
activists can see today how much of a foregone conclusion,
22:31
unfortunately, many minority voters are,
22:34
then they would be incredibly disappointed
22:36
that we are not utilizing that gift they gave us
22:39
to as full as potential.
22:41
- So I definitely wanna get back to that point,
22:43
but I do wanna go back to something else
22:45
since you were homeschooled.
22:46
So something I've been saying for a while on my show
22:48
is I don't think it is right for parents any longer
22:52
to keep their kids in the government-run schools.
22:55
'Cause that's what they are.
22:56
They're not public schools, they're government schools, right?
22:58
And we see examples all over the place,
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even in deep red states, even in my state.
23:03
There's a middle school, a stone's throw away
23:05
from my neighborhood that a substitute teacher came in
23:09
and wrote their non-binary pronouns on the board,
23:12
announced to the class that they were non-binary,
23:14
and then opened it up for Q&A.
23:15
This is like seventh grade English class.
23:18
They should have said, hey,
23:19
what page did you get to in Beowulf yesterday?
23:21
Okay, let's turn to that page and start from there.
23:24
But that's two places out of the two.
23:27
Parents can't put that back in and you can't counteract
23:30
because if you go to preschool
23:31
all the way through 12th grade,
23:32
that's 15,000 hours roughly
23:34
that you're spending at the school of your choosing.
23:37
So that's either gonna be at home with you,
23:39
but I tell people homeschool are vetted private Christian
23:41
school and I mean vetted private Christian school.
23:44
Those are the only two options.
23:45
So this is kind of you being able to speak to my audience
23:48
'cause there are a lot of people
23:49
that are in the public school system
23:50
they don't think they can do.
23:51
They don't think they can do it another way.
23:53
They don't think that they're equipped
23:54
to be able to do homeschool for some people.
23:56
Private school is just not really in the cards for them,
23:58
economically, financially, those types of things.
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But talk to me a little bit more about the public school
24:03
system and kind of the dangers it presents moving forward.
24:06
- Yeah, I completely understand people
24:08
who are reticent about jumping headlong into homeschooling
24:11
because it is or it can be viewed as a very daunting task
24:15
depending on your knowledge thereof.
24:19
But I would also say that the public school systems
24:21
themselves and this kind of speaks to the genius nature
24:24
of the entire new world order, if you will,
24:28
in their perfect world
24:29
and their perfect little utopia.
24:32
What they see as perfect is men who are fully
24:36
and thoroughly emasculated and who are frequently chastised
24:40
or downtrodden by the domineering female.
24:43
That domineering female does not have any more
24:46
of those nurturing instincts that should come naturally
24:48
to her and she has traded the beautiful gift
24:52
of motherhood and actual child rearing for the allure
24:57
and I use that word very loosely,
24:59
the allure of being a corporate slave,
25:02
punching in, punching out five days a week.
25:05
And because then she is off doing that
25:08
and because the father's off doing that,
25:10
if the father is even part of the equation to begin with,
25:13
then guess what?
25:14
The state is able to get their hands on your kids' minds
25:17
for eight hours a day, every day.
25:20
So by the end of the formative years of your life,
25:23
if you have a child growing up,
25:25
if you are living in that reality,
25:28
then what's really happened is you spend more time
25:31
with the state than you have with your own parents.
25:35
And when that becomes status quo,
25:37
then of course the state is going to say,
25:38
oh, well, if you don't honor the child's pronouns
25:41
or so on and so forth, we're gonna take the child away
25:43
from the parents because at that point,
25:45
the state has truly become the parent.
25:47
So it is very important for people to take another look
25:50
at homeschooling or a vetted private Christian school
25:54
because those are the areas and the times
25:56
of your child's impressionable life
25:59
when they have to be taught correctly,
26:03
lest they be brainwashed completely.
26:06
Because we know that the left preys on impressionable,
26:10
and dare I say, pretty damn stupid,
26:13
I'm just gonna use the word, pretty damn stupid people.
26:16
And if they're able to brainwash your child
26:18
to believe they're warped reality,
26:22
then they know that in many cases,
26:23
they are going to have a Democrat voter for life
26:25
because there's one thing I know
26:27
it's once you become a Democrat,
26:29
it's very difficult to get away from that mentality
26:32
without suffering extreme consequences
26:33
from those very same people who claim to be those
26:36
who are the most loving and tolerant.
26:38
- When I think mentality is the important thing to think about
26:40
because even with your answer previous to that,
26:42
when you're talking about this victimhood mentality
26:44
to where it's like, okay,
26:45
if you grow up with a certain level of melanin in your skin,
26:48
you have victim points, that's intersectionality 101.
26:51
But this idea that if you are born black,
26:54
that you can't own a business
26:56
or that you can't get into the best schools
26:58
or that you can't be successful,
27:00
that you can't be a good dad,
27:01
that you can't get married before you have kids
27:04
and all those different things,
27:05
I feel like it comes down a whole lot more
27:08
to culture within the black community.
27:10
And I always hate saying the black community
27:11
'cause it's a full of a bunch of individuals,
27:13
but just for ease of today's use,
27:15
we'll say the black community
27:16
as opposed to this idea in the ether of systemic racism.
27:21
And so I guess for you, you've been around a lot of people,
27:26
your entire life,
27:26
I think you played a college football as well,
27:28
so you've been around a lot of people that were black,
27:30
that weren't brought up the way that you were,
27:32
they weren't military, they weren't moved around all the time,
27:34
they didn't go outside the United States of America,
27:36
they weren't homeschooled, all those different things.
27:38
So when did you feel like you were first exposed
27:41
to this victimhood mentality?
27:42
And then I guess, why didn't you go for it?
27:44
Because in a lot of ways, it seems like,
27:47
this is pretty convenient,
27:48
if anything ever goes wrong,
27:49
I've always got this excuse, you know?
27:52
- Yeah, and you know what?
27:53
I'll tell you what, I almost did fall for it.
27:55
I tell people all the time back in 2013,
27:59
that was when the George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin trial
28:03
was airing all across TV.
28:05
And back then, myself, I was 21, barely 22.
28:08
And I was watching the news and seeing the spin,
28:12
not even fully being aware there was a spin taking place.
28:15
And I thought that the news was being accurate with me,
28:17
that was my first mistake, and I regret that very, very much.
28:21
But what I noticed back then was that the concept
28:25
or the prospect of always being able to point my finger
28:28
and blame someone else for my own shortcomings,
28:32
that sounds pretty good to someone who lacks the ability
28:35
to have any sort of aspiration whatsoever.
28:38
So of course, to me, as a young person who's struggling
28:41
through and working several jobs to get through college,
28:45
it makes sense for me to sit there at the time
28:47
and say, oh, well, maybe I just don't have what I want to have
28:50
because it's just the white person keeping me down, right?
28:53
Come to find out the more I actually did my own research
28:56
because I'll tell people I'll be straight up with this.
28:59
After the George Zimmerman verdict was read,
29:01
I immediately ran over to Facebook
29:03
and typed out some message about how difficult it was
29:06
to be a black man in America and how unfair that verdict was.
29:09
And I kept that post up to this day.
29:11
If people want to have a little fun,
29:13
they can go back on my Facebook and find it.
29:15
It's still up there and I use that as a point to point back to
29:19
and realize just how quickly your mind can change.
29:21
But I have a few friends there at college
29:24
who chose to reach out to me and say, hey, do you know this fact?
29:28
Have you read this article?
29:29
Have you seen the autopsy, so on and so forth?
29:31
And I'm just grateful to God that I had just enough
29:34
wherewithal to say, you know, I'll listen to you.
29:39
- Well, in humility, it takes long humility, yeah.
29:41
- Exactly, I'll listen to you
29:43
and I'll see if what you say holds anyway,
29:45
not thinking that it would.
29:47
When I started to do my own research on that case,
29:49
I realized just how much I'd been lied to by the media
29:53
who I thought would have just told me the facts as they stood.
29:57
And from that point moving forward,
29:59
my biggest thought was, I'm so embarrassed
30:02
that not only was I taken for a ride by the media,
30:05
but then I ran to social media and aired my ignorance
30:08
to all of the individuals who were connected with me there.
30:11
And I said, you know what, that's never gonna happen again.
30:13
Every single time that I hear something from the news,
30:16
I need to verify that it's actually true or not.
30:19
And that process does take a lot more time and effort,
30:21
but it's much more rewarding
30:22
because you do truly know the facts for what they actually are
30:25
and not for what the mainstream media would need you to believe.
30:28
- So with that, I feel like that's so awesome
30:31
to know that there were people in your life
30:32
because that takes relational equity.
30:34
If you're going and attacking somebody's
30:36
like deeply entrenched position,
30:38
you're putting some chips in the middle of the table
30:39
and I encourage you guys to do that all the time
30:41
when it's for somebody's betterment.
30:42
But there is certainly a segment of the population, Damani,
30:45
that they will be shown evidence
30:48
to the contrary of their opinions
30:50
and all that that will cause them to do
30:52
is to further entrench themselves in their current opinions.
30:56
It's almost like a mind contagion.
30:57
I don't quite understand that.
30:59
Yes, it's a certain level of pride,
31:01
but it's got to go deeper than that.
31:03
I feel like it's almost spiritual in nature
31:05
that someone can be shown,
31:07
like look at the George Floyd situation.
31:09
We'll use an easier one.
31:10
We'll go back to Ferguson, Missouri, right?
31:12
So in that particular case,
31:14
all the evidence pointed to the officer being
31:18
completely exonerated in the right to shoot Michael Brown.
31:20
And we don't need to go through the evidence.
31:22
I think people have seen it at this point,
31:24
but there are people that still say hands up don't shoot
31:26
and they will still go up in front of thousands of people
31:30
at a political rally and say,
31:31
"Just like Michael Brown was murdered in cold blood
31:33
"on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri."
31:35
And everyone just goes, "Uh-huh, uh-huh, yeah,
31:37
"that's exactly what happened."
31:39
But we know better.
31:40
So what is that?
31:41
Like, I'm literally out of loss.
31:43
Like, why do people look at the evidence to the contrary,
31:46
the truth and then go, "Nah, that's not for me."
31:49
- I think it's because the hard truth is less appealing
31:54
than beautiful lies.
31:56
People want very easy information.
32:02
People don't want to do any extra research.
32:04
We've almost become, especially in the West,
32:07
we've gotten to the point where we are almost so fat
32:11
and happy to use the expression, we're so lazy.
32:14
Things have been so good for so long for so many people.
32:17
No one really even knows what true adversity even is anymore.
32:21
So they will sit there and they will try to find a way
32:23
to justify their beliefs based on what they've been told
32:26
to believe, which is why I do firmly believe
32:29
that when you do have these situations that arise,
32:31
like the Michael Brown's or Trayvon Martin's or the George Floyd's,
32:34
what is most important is that you do your due diligence first
32:38
and then speak afterwards.
32:40
As far as combating individuals who think differently than you,
32:44
you have to get to them as quickly as you can,
32:47
because if you don't, they are going to allow time
32:49
for that seed to take root.
32:52
And it's very, very difficult to rip that up
32:55
and rip that away once they have bought completely
32:57
onto that lie or that notion.
33:00
It's not something that's completely impossible,
33:02
what I would argue and not argue,
33:04
I would actually agree with you when you said it
33:07
with a mind can change in because ultimately,
33:10
even if you show someone conflicting evidence
33:13
or contradicting evidence to what they may believe,
33:16
it's up to them to choose whether to entertain it or not.
33:19
And because entertaining something different
33:22
is deemed as too difficult for many people,
33:26
they would rather just dig their heels in
33:28
than just pivot to personal attacks on you and your character,
33:32
which honestly indicates to you,
33:33
even if you think they're not listening to you, they are,
33:36
but it's come down to a pride problem.
33:39
People will have so much pride,
33:41
they won't admit that they're wrong.
33:43
That's why people won't refuse to admit
33:46
that they were taken for a ride for the last two years
33:48
as it relates to the jab and everything that came on with it.
33:52
People know, people are seeing headlines left and right,
33:55
died suddenly, died suddenly.
33:56
15-year-old has a heart attack, died suddenly.
33:58
The soccer player died suddenly.
34:00
Okay. But because you are so prideful,
34:03
you can admit you were wrong.
34:05
And because also deep down you're a little bit terrified
34:07
because you actually signed on to that.
34:09
So you've got skin in that game.
34:11
You have to defend what you did,
34:13
otherwise you have to admit you were wrong.
34:15
People would rather not admit they were wrong,
34:18
than entertain new information.
34:20
And we're gonna see them even the benefits
34:21
of that down the road.
34:22
- Well, and it's intellectual dishonesty.
34:24
It's intellectual laziness as you pointed out.
34:27
And I just, you know, at some point,
34:30
and I tell people this all the time,
34:31
it's pearls before swine.
34:32
Especially people that love to argue
34:33
in the comments section on Facebook or Instagram,
34:35
all that's like, when have you ever known somebody
34:37
to change their sincerely, deeply held beliefs
34:41
because of a comment that somebody put on Facebook,
34:43
all you're doing is stressing yourself out
34:45
and making yourself look like a fool.
34:48
I guess one thing that you do,
34:49
and you know, this is kind of coming off the Brexit movement
34:52
and a lot of these different things,
34:53
there are a lot of folks that are very loud
34:56
about claiming and exclaiming that black people
34:59
should become conservatives.
35:00
And again, I'm really uncomfortable with the language
35:02
of talking people as if they're a homogenous group
35:04
of individuals.
35:05
Obviously you're very, very different from people
35:07
that look like you, the same is true for me.
35:09
But again, we'll just use it for the ease
35:11
of our discussion today.
35:13
So what would I guess your pitch be?
35:14
And I kind of know your pitch 'cause I've followed your stuff
35:17
and you know, since I met you,
35:18
what is your pitch to black folks out there
35:20
that maybe are seeing some of the cracks in the foundation
35:23
of the Democratic Party
35:24
that aren't really down with all this woke stuff.
35:26
They're not really cool with murdering babies
35:28
and celebrating it and shouting it from the rooftops.
35:31
What is your pitch to them to say,
35:33
"Hey, come over, not just to the Republican side,
35:35
"but say, hey, come over here and be a conservative?"
35:38
- I knew my best to even not necessarily use
35:41
the word conservative to start.
35:43
I think that's a great way to approach an individual
35:46
who might be willing to listen to you.
35:49
Is to not even try to bring up the whole party duality
35:53
at that point.
35:54
What I reckon that you do is simply ask them
35:56
very basic foundational questions.
35:59
One of the questions that I've seen it
36:01
prefer to use myself most recently is,
36:03
you know, hey, Mr. Random Minority Man Over Here.
36:07
Do you like the fact that your own demographic
36:10
hasn't grown much at all in the last two decades,
36:14
two, three decades?
36:15
You like that?
36:16
You know, do you like the fact that there's fewer
36:19
if you're especially compared to other groups
36:22
like Hispanics?
36:22
Do you like that?
36:23
You know, how does it feel when you have a new,
36:27
do you know how to access a computer
36:29
or operate the internet?
36:30
Ask them those very basic, easy, open-ended questions.
36:34
And when they say, yeah, I can use the internet,
36:35
what are you talking about?
36:36
Oh, well, wouldn't you believe it?
36:38
There's actually somebody on the left side of the aisle
36:40
who thinks that you don't.
36:41
You know what his name is?
36:42
Name is Joe Biden.
36:43
And that's how you lead them into those kinds
36:45
of conversations where it's not like,
36:47
hey, you should become a conservative.
36:48
It's like, look, what do you think tripping everything else away?
36:53
And then you link whatever they say
36:55
back to the current political goings on.
36:59
And then you hopefully will have a better opportunity
37:01
of changing someone's mind
37:03
or at least letting them see they're being taken for a ride
37:04
and being exploited without any good reason whatsoever.
37:09
- I think that's great.
37:10
Because again, you're pulling people to an ideal,
37:12
not necessarily a team.
37:14
And so like, you know, imagine, I won't go there with that,
37:17
that's a great message because you're asking people,
37:20
what are your core deeply held beliefs?
37:22
But then you're also going to find out
37:23
what their squishy beliefs are.
37:25
'Cause I know there are a lot of people out there
37:26
that are squishy pro-choice, right?
37:29
Until they see what an abortion procedure actually is.
37:32
Like a lot of people think that it's just like soup in there.
37:36
And then all of a sudden right before it comes out
37:37
of the vaginal canal, it turns into a human being.
37:40
You know, that cries on the way out the door.
37:42
But no, like when you show them this is what's happening
37:44
at all these different stages of gestation,
37:46
like they're not squishy pro-abortion anymore,
37:49
they're actually more pro-life.
37:51
So one thing that I feel like is important
37:53
to bring up with all of this.
37:54
And I asked this if Samuel will say too,
37:56
in his first appearance on the show
37:57
like a year, year and a half ago or so.
37:59
Is, do you guys ever get worried about tokenism?
38:02
About, you know, do you ever feel like,
38:03
'cause that's something people are like,
38:05
oh, you know, you're only supporting a guy like,
38:06
you know, Vodie Bockham,
38:07
because he agrees with you and he's black.
38:09
Or you only support, you know, Tim Scott,
38:11
because he agrees with you and he's black.
38:13
That's always kind of how it's couched.
38:15
But are you worried about being taken advantage of
38:17
by, you know, Republican party establishment,
38:20
people or all that?
38:21
It's like, oh, look, we've got, you know,
38:23
a good look in Articulate, black guy,
38:25
that's gonna come out here and say things
38:26
that we all agree with.
38:27
Come on over here, we'll give you a microphone.
38:30
Because to me, again, I'll listen to anybody.
38:32
I'll listen to a purple haired polka dotted alien
38:35
if they're making sense and they can help, you know,
38:37
human flourishing.
38:38
But does that worry you at all that every,
38:40
that you're gonna be potentially taken advantage of?
38:43
Not me, myself, personally.
38:45
But I have seen it happen to other individuals
38:48
and I have seen the disastrous end results.
38:52
I'm not sure if many people out there listening
38:54
are familiar with the name Alex Stovall,
38:57
but he was a conservative running,
39:01
I believe he was for the house in Arizona.
39:04
And it came out that behind closed doors,
39:06
Alex Stovall was simply using the color of his skin
39:09
and he was also a black male.
39:11
As more or less of an easy shot or easy path
39:16
to securing a lot of Republican votes.
39:18
Because there's almost a formula
39:20
that you can understand and you can employ
39:22
if you so choose and if you have that sinister intent
39:25
where you say, okay, I'm a black person.
39:27
I wanna get lots of money from donations.
39:30
If I just learn to say and parent the right things
39:33
to the right, the right will be so desperate to get a win
39:37
they'll say, look, there's a black person
39:38
who agrees with me, I'm gonna support him
39:40
and never do any extra due diligence beyond that.
39:43
I think that's one of the biggest pitfalls and traps
39:46
that people on the right can fall into,
39:48
which is why I always encourage individuals
39:50
to think, to question and to verify.
39:54
You have to do those things all the same time in some cases.
39:58
You have to think, why is this person truly running?
40:00
You know, why is this person?
40:02
Then ask them questions, ask them difficult questions.
40:04
You have to verify if their track record
40:06
or their privately held beliefs
40:08
actually match their publicly held beliefs.
40:10
If that's the case, then you have a good person on your hands.
40:13
But there have been a large number of black individuals
40:17
who have seen the conservative movement
40:20
as nothing more than a means to an end for a quick cash grab.
40:24
We've seen even some of the influencer community.
40:26
There's influencers right now, black influencers.
40:28
You know, in the show of respect,
40:31
I'm not gonna use their actual names,
40:32
what you'll know what I'm talking about
40:33
if you're aware of the scene.
40:36
Then there's certain influencers who will record themselves
40:38
sitting first class on airplanes
40:41
with, you know, conservative t-shirts on,
40:42
making eye contact with people walking by,
40:45
trying to get some sort of reaction
40:46
for their next big viral video.
40:48
That's not constructive or helpful.
40:49
You'll have conservative influencers,
40:51
some of whom are minorities, who decide now
40:54
that they're going to fly around the country
40:55
and charge five figure speaking fees to come speak to a group.
41:00
But they can't even be troubled to go to events
41:03
or to protest events like drag queen story hour happening
41:06
in their own backyards.
41:07
That is unacceptable.
41:09
And because there's so many people out there now
41:11
who just see politics as the next big forum
41:15
for you to become some sort of celebrity,
41:18
you're seeing more and more bad actors
41:20
be mixed into the fold.
41:22
So it's incumbent upon those on the right
41:25
to be incredibly circumspect
41:27
and to realize there are some people out there
41:30
who will simply use your generosity or your benevolence
41:34
as a means to living an opulent lifestyle
41:37
and they will give you nothing in return,
41:39
even though they say all the right things
41:41
may know that they absolutely have to.
41:43
- I think that's such a good point.
41:44
And also it's a good reminder all of us
41:46
to just not don't worship people,
41:49
don't worship your favorite politician,
41:50
your favorite political pundit,
41:52
your favorite influencer, your favorite pastor,
41:54
your favorite whatever.
41:55
These are people, they will let you down.
41:57
And if you build out your entire worldview,
41:59
your entire theology, your entire whatever,
42:01
based on what this person says and does,
42:03
gosh, you'll be let down at some point,
42:04
it's almost inevitable for every single person.
42:07
Which I guess back into a question that I want to ask you,
42:09
obviously your faith is very important
42:11
to you, your Christian faith to be more specific.
42:13
But that's one thing that I feel that is very important
42:15
and confusing for me as well.
42:18
When you see the number of black Christians
42:20
that break for the Democratic Party as well,
42:22
because again, the Republican Party
42:24
is not the party of Jesus, right?
42:25
Like it's not one of those types of things.
42:27
The Republican Party does and supports things
42:29
that I think are apiblical that are not good,
42:31
that aren't even moral to be honest.
42:32
But I don't see anything in the Democratic Party platform
42:36
at all that can square with the truth of the gospel at all.
42:40
And it's just crazy to me to see a lot
42:44
of these prominent black Christians come out
42:46
and support a Raphael Warnock or to support any of these people,
42:50
these that are pro-baby murder that are basically anti
42:53
the black family, anti the culture of the black culture,
42:55
which is what it was even before the civil rights movement.
42:58
Whenever there was intact families
43:00
and there were more black dads living and staying in the homes
43:03
and there weren't any other racial cohort in this country.
43:06
So what are your thoughts and your read on that?
43:08
Because not only as a conservative Republican man,
43:11
but as a Christian man to see him and stuff like that goes on.
43:14
- Yeah, that's a fantastic point you bring out.
43:16
I do truly believe that liberal or leftist black pastors
43:21
are the biggest sellouts that we have in this country.
43:25
Because liberal black pastors understand the plight
43:29
of many minority individuals,
43:31
their own congregation more than anyone else out there.
43:34
So there is no excuse to have someone like Bishop T.D. Jakes
43:38
up in North Texas pose for photo ops
43:40
with Robert Francis O'Rourke.
43:42
There is no excuse for that.
43:44
The Charlotte Francis O'Rourke would stand idly by
43:47
and watch and be completely fine with many individuals
43:50
who are minorities continuing to kill their own
43:53
unborn children, but because the left has their thumb
43:58
on many of these liberal black pastors.
44:01
And this goes all the way back even to the civil rights
44:04
movement and many of the individuals who are behind
44:07
that community organizing at that level.
44:09
They've seen those leftist black pastors as the easiest path
44:15
to get to their impressionable
44:17
or under educated congregation in many cases.
44:21
So they know that they can poison that well
44:24
and then the congregation will continue to drink
44:26
from that well indefinitely, even knowing that the Bible
44:29
itself does speak against many
44:31
of the liberal politicians positions.
44:35
But there's also been a rise of very woke churches as well
44:38
or churches that utilize what I like
44:40
to call selective interpretation.
44:42
They're churches, the church that I actually helped
44:44
protest against the drag queen story hour
44:46
a few months ago here in Houston, Texas.
44:49
This church, they have the gall to post certain
44:52
scripture verses, but then ignore others.
44:55
You either love and believe all the Bible or none of it.
44:58
You can't pick and choose which verses suits your agenda.
45:02
A lot of leftists even out there will say,
45:04
oh, God is love and that part of the Bible.
45:07
But they forget the part of the Bible where it says
45:08
that if you cause one of God's children to stumble
45:11
that it's better for a millstone to be tighter on your neck,
45:13
you'd be thrown to the depths of the sea.
45:15
That's also part of the Bible.
45:16
So when you can't have, you're taking eat it too
45:18
when it comes to that.
45:19
You either love the Bible, believe the Bible,
45:21
or follow after God and you don't.
45:23
- Well, we live in a culture now
45:24
where we love our scriptures when they fit on a coffee cup
45:26
or a T-shirt or a bumper sticker.
45:28
And that's how a guy like Gavin Newsom
45:30
can put up billboards in red states,
45:32
basically encouraging women of those red states
45:34
to travel to California, go on vacation,
45:36
chill out on the beach.
45:37
We'll bring you into Planned Parenthood,
45:38
kill your baby and send you back out to the beach,
45:40
thought your baby, this is all good to go.
45:41
And to put the love your neighbor as yourself
45:44
and to quote the words of Jesus on the billboard
45:46
and have no compunction or any problems with it.
45:48
And the same thing with love
45:49
as people talk about, isn't God about love?
45:51
Aren't Christians supposed to love everybody?
45:52
It's like, well, we're taught how to love people
45:54
and it's not loving, for instance.
45:56
Like if I just yell at my two year old son
45:58
for no reason, that's not loving.
46:00
But if he's running directly towards traffic
46:03
where he could potentially die and I yell at him to stop,
46:06
that's a loving thing to do.
46:08
And so we basically don't have categories for love anymore.
46:11
And dumb Christians, far the reason is
46:12
'cause they don't actually read their Bibles.
46:14
And so they wanna talk about biblical ethics
46:16
and biblical justice and all these things.
46:17
And it's like, show me the context of what you mean
46:20
and they can't 'cause they just don't believe it at all.
46:23
So in light of all the other things that we've talked about
46:25
that have been really, really fun
46:27
and I've really enjoyed getting your opinion.
46:29
I feel like this is almost stupid to even bring up
46:31
but defund the police, right?
46:32
So you're not hearing that as much anymore
46:34
because with skyrocketing, violent crime rates,
46:38
skyrocketing, murder rates, you know,
46:40
fentanyl coming through the Southern border
46:41
and being distributed by, you know,
46:43
these different, you know, coordinated areas and matrices
46:47
of, you know, different drug dealers and things like that.
46:50
Like there are a lot of communities
46:51
that are in shambles right now.
46:53
And it's a lot of the communities that hopped on the,
46:55
defund the police bandwagon after Ferguson, Missouri,
46:59
after what happened in a Minneapolis and all that
47:01
whenever George Floyd died in police custody.
47:03
And we've seen this thing be very, very deleterious
47:06
to a lot of communities of color.
47:08
Again, I even hate, you know,
47:09
couching it that way,
47:10
but to a lot of those communities.
47:12
What are your overall thoughts about that?
47:14
Because I know you do a lot in your close with a lot
47:16
of people that are in law enforcement
47:18
because even if they stop saying it out loud,
47:21
it's causing a lot of really good men.
47:23
And I'm specifically talking about the men
47:24
'cause I think those are the only guys
47:26
that people that should be out on the beat are the men.
47:28
But why, so many of those people
47:31
are going to be not going into that profession
47:33
because they are scared to death
47:34
that they're gonna make one mistake
47:36
and that mistake is gonna happen to a person of color
47:38
and their entire family tree's gonna be destroyed about it.
47:41
But, you know, what do you think overall
47:42
about defund the police?
47:44
- Defund the police was a very popular,
47:45
very easy to regard to take catch word
47:47
and nothing more, or catch phrase.
47:50
That's all the left wants to do.
47:52
They want to pump you full of the catch phrases
47:55
that are gonna be easy to recite
47:57
or chant at their next rally
47:58
or mostly peaceful protest, right?
48:01
If you were to actually talk to someone
48:03
who lived in those inner cities,
48:05
they would tell you they need more police
48:07
because they're the ones who go to sleep at night
48:09
and they have to be afraid if you're gonna get shot
48:11
by a drive by shooting
48:12
because two local gangs are going at it.
48:14
They're the ones who truly are in fear of it.
48:16
But again, because of the social conditioning
48:20
of many individuals in that group,
48:22
you know, there's so many people out there who say,
48:23
"Oh, you're a black Republican."
48:25
That's like being a chicken who supports KFC.
48:28
Ha, ha, ha, it's so funny, my brain is so big.
48:32
What they don't realize that,
48:34
they're doing the exact same thing themselves.
48:36
Even if the left isn't saying defund the police anymore,
48:39
if you are now into the voting booth
48:41
and go vote for a leftist today,
48:44
then you are a chicken voting for KFC
48:47
because you're gonna be the one who's going to pay that price
48:49
sooner rather than later.
48:51
The left, they don't care about improving your station
48:54
in life whatsoever.
48:56
They'll claim they do, tax you all together
48:59
to get more money to launder off to Ukraine.
49:02
That's what they're gonna do.
49:03
They're gonna pretend that they care about you
49:05
every couple of years and they're gonna run
49:07
and find somebody else to get their,
49:09
sink their claws into.
49:11
Defunding the police has everything to do
49:15
with a continued demoralization campaign
49:18
across all levels.
49:19
But the only times people will take it seriously
49:22
is if something happens to them themselves personally.
49:25
If you are a person who has seen someone get shot,
49:30
unfortunately, just a due to wanton violence,
49:34
then you're going to want to have police officers there
49:36
to keep you and your loved ones safe.
49:39
But if this just becomes something you see on TV
49:41
or you see a fun hashtag and you can post this hashtag
49:44
on Twitter and get 2,000 views or 2,000 likes or whatnot,
49:48
then it's something that's not going to be real to you yet
49:51
until it actually is.
49:52
So the best thing, unfortunately, that can happen
49:56
is for these crime-ridden cities to just keep getting worse.
50:00
Which is, I hate having to say that.
50:02
But it only is going, that's only going to change things
50:07
if you begin seeing more people who are realizing
50:09
the disastrous results of the policies
50:12
that they claim to hold themselves.
50:14
- And I think a lot of these individuals,
50:15
they like the idea, as you said,
50:17
they kind of like the bumper sticker,
50:18
they like the slogan, they hate cops until they need one.
50:21
They hate cheap dogs until they need one.
50:23
They hate men until they need a strong one
50:25
that's immediately available.
50:26
And that kind of gets into the whole idea of manhood.
50:28
Well, I'll go and ask you about this,
50:29
I wasn't intending to.
50:30
But there's this movement in culture, obviously,
50:32
that is attacking manhood, any display
50:35
of what used to be called chivalrous manhood
50:37
is called toxic masculinity in some ways.
50:40
And I just got to tell you, I got two young sons.
50:42
Those are going to be the most
50:43
toxically masculine boys that you will ever meet
50:46
in your entire life, and they're going to be better for it.
50:48
Because we've got this cultural idea
50:50
that a weak man is a good man.
50:52
But as you know, Jordan Peterson and other people have said,
50:54
it's like, if you're scared of what a strong man can do,
50:56
just wait until you see what a weak man does, right?
50:59
Like it's way, way more difficult
51:01
to get over what a weak man is capable of
51:03
than what a strong man is capable of.
51:05
But there's nothing virtuous,
51:06
Damani, about a weak man, a man that's incapable
51:10
of protecting somebody else incapable of violence.
51:13
Like there's nothing virtuous about that person,
51:15
that is a useless person when push comes to shove,
51:18
because when the, you know what hits the fan,
51:20
they're going to be on the phone,
51:22
hoping that a sheepdog gets there as quickly as possible.
51:25
I did a debate with a anti-gun, anti-violence,
51:29
Christian activist over in the UK
51:31
that literally goes around the country,
51:32
convincing people to turn in their,
51:34
you know, law-abiding citizens,
51:35
to turn in their firearms and have them destroyed.
51:38
And he convinces them that that makes them safer.
51:40
And I put him in this scenario of him and I,
51:42
'cause he lives in Philadelphia of all places.
51:44
I was like, let's say you and I are having a cheesesteak
51:46
somewhere, and then some guy comes in
51:48
and he just wants to shoot up the place.
51:49
And I'm concealed carrying at the time.
51:51
You are gonna hope to God, a guy like me,
51:54
stops a guy like that, because I'm your only hope,
51:58
because all you're capable of doing
52:00
is hiding under your chair and [inaudible] your pants.
52:02
And so we live in this cultural moment
52:04
where we hate manhood, we hate masculinity,
52:06
we hate husbands, we hate fathers,
52:08
and we don't want the family to exist.
52:10
What have you seen, 'cause obviously we've talked about it
52:12
in, you know, kind of tinted within the black culture
52:14
and all that, in the lack of fatherhood
52:15
and all that type of thing,
52:16
but I think most of the problems we see in modernity,
52:19
to money, comes down to men not taking up their role
52:22
and taking up their responsibility,
52:23
specifically as it pertains to being a father's,
52:25
but now I'm getting preachy, hop in here.
52:27
- Yeah, no, you know, I find very interesting,
52:30
the intersection that's taking place
52:32
from the cultural and the spiritual
52:34
and the political, you can argue that as well.
52:37
There, the reason the attack on men
52:40
has become so pronounced in recent years
52:43
is because the left deep down, they do know,
52:45
that, you know, men, we are called to be like Christ, right?
52:50
We are the head of the households,
52:52
and so on and so forth, right?
52:53
So of course, the left, which is anti-God,
52:56
anti-religion is going to attack
52:58
any representation of what God truly intended,
53:01
which is why they are all doing everything they can
53:04
to browbeat men, because weak men
53:07
are men who are very easy to be controlled,
53:10
weak men can be subjugated,
53:12
and if a man will not take up that accountability
53:14
or that cloak of responsibility or mantle
53:17
and protect his family, then it makes access
53:21
to, remember, we talked about earlier,
53:22
those single-on married women,
53:25
who, unfortunately, if there's no good leadership
53:28
in many cases, they will just choose to run
53:31
and vote for their own destruction,
53:33
but if there was a strong man there,
53:35
he was able to actually ground that woman
53:37
to make her feel like she is safe and protected and secure,
53:41
and it's okay to not have to worry about going out
53:43
and even working for the man
53:44
and can stay home and raise the kids.
53:46
This all works together,
53:47
and that's one thing that people will understand
53:48
is that it's not this one-off issue.
53:50
The left is in a coordinated attack right now,
53:52
because everything that it takes to survive today,
53:56
and they will find a million different ways to do it,
53:59
they're gonna get to the women,
54:00
they're gonna get to the children,
54:02
they're gonna get through the schools,
54:03
they're gonna get through the messaging,
54:04
the media you're taking, the music you listen to,
54:07
it's all connected,
54:09
and if men don't push back up against this
54:13
and reclaim that beautiful, awesome power that it is
54:16
to be a man, then we're gonna be in a lot of trouble
54:20
because I'll tell you this,
54:21
weak men, I'm sure you've seen this,
54:23
there's a graph I've seen several times,
54:26
and it says weak men create hard times,
54:29
hard times create strong men,
54:31
strong men create good times,
54:32
the cycle is gonna repeat itself,
54:34
so we need more strong men to rise up,
54:36
it's gonna take people like yourself,
54:37
raising your two young boys correctly,
54:40
people like myself, I don't have a wife or kids yet,
54:42
but I hope to one day,
54:43
but even though I don't right now,
54:45
I'm fighting for them even now,
54:47
because in the future,
54:48
I want them to be able to have a world to inherit,
54:50
it's going to be worth living in,
54:52
and not this desperately degenerate liberal hellhole
54:56
that we currently see returning towards.
54:58
- These are, our kids are arrows that we can shoot
55:00
into the future to provide for the flourishing
55:03
of future generations, so I absolutely love that.
55:05
Dude, we've gone everywhere in this conversation,
55:07
but I do wanna do one more thing with you
55:08
before we let you go.
55:10
There's a segment of my show that I like to do
55:12
with some of my people that I have on,
55:13
it's called what would you say to someone that said?
55:16
So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna say,
55:17
what would you say to someone that said,
55:19
and then I'm just gonna fill in the blank, okay?
55:21
But here's the deal, this is lightning round.
55:23
So you have 30 seconds maximum to give me your response
55:27
to whatever it is that I say.
55:28
No, regardless of how big of a topic it is,
55:31
this is me, potatoes only.
55:32
Sorry, are you up for it?
55:34
- All right, let's do it.
55:35
- First one here, let's see how you do.
55:36
What would you say to someone that said,
55:38
I hate living in the United States of America?
55:41
- Get the hell out, I'll help you pack.
55:44
- All right, next one here,
55:45
what would you say to someone that said,
55:46
black people can't be racist.
55:50
Ooh, I would say, if I thought people can't be racist,
55:54
then why was Kanye West
55:56
and why are Kyrie Irving under so much fire right now?
55:59
Why is it that as soon as you attack in the Jewish community,
56:03
then oh, you can be a racist.
56:05
No, you can't have, you can't eat it,
56:06
so you can't have it both ways.
56:07
- And they're being attacked by people that do
56:09
and think a lot of anti-Semitic things,
56:11
but all of a sudden when Kanye or Kyrie do it,
56:14
it's all of a sudden a major problem.
56:15
All right, next one here,
56:16
what would you say to someone that said,
56:17
Donald Trump is a racist?
56:21
(laughing)
56:23
I feel like I would just laugh, to be honest with you.
56:25
No, I would say, I've met the man,
56:28
I've been in the same room with the same man Donald Trump's
56:30
not a racist, if you believe that,
56:32
and you have fallen for the mainstream media's propaganda
56:34
and you should seek help as soon as possible.
56:36
- All right, not all these do dignify a response,
56:38
but I'm gonna force you to give them to me on this show,
56:40
at least.
56:41
All right, what would you say to someone that said,
56:42
all white people are racist?
56:45
Let's say, I would say if all white people are racist,
56:50
then why are minorities fighting, scrapping and clawing
56:57
to come to this racist country in the numbers that they are?
57:00
- And if all white people are racist,
57:02
doesn't that include the people that wear blue ties as well?
57:05
Something to think about?
57:06
What would you say to someone that said,
57:07
"I don't trust comps"?
57:09
- I'd say, well, then don't call one next time you need one.
57:14
- And let's go back to that whole,
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white people are racing thing for a minute.
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Just ask, it's one extra thing too.
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If a lot of people are racist,
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then why is Kamala Harris married to a white man?
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Why is AOC getting married to a white man?
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Why is Ilhan Omar married to a white man
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after being married to her brother?
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Sorry, physicals on and on, I could just keep on it.
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I had to drop that in there.
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- Well, hey, they have to fight racism on the front lines.
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That's why those are warriors that you're talking about.
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Demani, that's exactly why.
57:40
All right, just a few more left here.
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What would you say to someone that said,
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all black Republicans are Uncle Tom's?
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- Thank you.
57:47
- Hey, Uncle Tom has been reclaimed.
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I know not everybody's down with that,
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but you were in Uncle Tom one,
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and then obviously we were both there
57:54
at the premiere for Uncle Tom too.
57:56
It's good when you can reclaim things
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that are actually good for you.
57:58
All right, a couple more here.
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What would you say to someone that said,
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"I want to vote Republican,
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"but I think they'll take advantage of me"?
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- The only way a Republican will take advantage of you
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is by unlocking the concept of personal accountability,
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fiscal responsibility in your life.
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I don't think that has anything to do
58:20
with trying to take advantage of you,
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but I do believe that it comes with doing your own
58:25
due diligence to understand
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what the party platforms truly are,
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where they originated from,
58:29
and where they're trending in the future.
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- All right, last question of the day here.
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What would you say to someone that said,
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the USA is a racist country?
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If the USA is a racist country,
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you don't know what racism is.
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- Yeah, and it echoes something you said earlier.
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Then why are there so many people with that level of melanin
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desperately trying to get into this country
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and become citizens?
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I think it's because they know better
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than to look at the woke ideology
58:56
and to just buy a hook line and sinker.
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But man, we've gone everywhere in this conversation.
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I've really enjoyed it,
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but that's all for me.
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Is there anything else you want to get off your chest?
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- No, thank you so much for having me
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and everybody who's listening
59:05
or will listen to this.
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I thank you so much for joining us.
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This is how you change the country.
59:10
It's worth having an exchange of ideas
59:12
and then taking those moments
59:14
and sharing them with others.
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So continue to do exactly that
59:16
and we're gonna win in the end.
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- All right, Damani Felder,
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thank you for coming on "On Daunted Life" a man's podcast.
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- Thank you for having me, brother.
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- There you go, guys.
59:24
I hope you enjoyed my time with Damani Felder,
59:26
but before we let you go,
59:27
we aren't gonna do a quick resilience boost.
59:28
"On Daunted Life" our mission is equipping men
59:30
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59:31
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59:33
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59:35
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59:37
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59:38
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59:40
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59:42
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59:44
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59:45
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