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Cluelessly Cocksure (Ep. 947)

Jul 23, 2026 49m 33s Ep. 947 Full transcript available
Cluelessly Cocksure (Ep. 947)
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In this episode, Kyle takes a deep dive into the preliminary hearing for the Tyler Robinson murder trial, and what this means for “Charlie Kirk’s best friend” Candace Owens. Let’s get into it… Check out our SHOP.
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Let's be honest, most men drift. We wake up, we scroll, we work, and then we just rinse and repeat. And we know we're softer than we should be. That's why I built the 31-day resilience reset. This is not a devotional. It is a field manual for men ready to stop drifting and start fighting back. So, for 31 days, you'll train your spirit, mind, and body with scripture, prayer, and daily challenges that forge real resilience. Go to www.undaunted.life/31. life/31day to download this resource for free. That's undaunted.life/31day. Start your reset today. This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast. I'm your host, Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it. The one who states his case first seems right until the other comes and examines him. That is Proverbs 18:17. I mean, that's something good to keep in mind at all times, but especially as we go through today's episode. Want to say as always, thank you so much to our donors, guys. We have guys just like you giving 15 bucks a month, 50 bucks one time, 100 bucks a month, whatever. It's guys like you that are keeping this content going, that have kept us going for years and years and years. If you are not a donor, don't just be a mooch. Don't just suckle from the teeth. All right, let's get in there. Let's be donors. Let's make sure that we are supporting content that is pushing back darkness. So, hop on board undaunted.life/donate. undaunted.life/donate. life/donate. Also, leave a fivestar review for this show and share it with a friend. That actually helps more than you would realize, helps with the algorithms. Share those five stars and share with a friend. And uh one real quick thing for uh any of you like super gear heads out there, [clears throat] last week on the AMA or whenever the last AMA was. So, as soon as I heard it, I was like, "Oh, you doofus." My dad and I were talking about the the different Fords that were being made in the late '7s and early 1980s. And um you know, this is in reference to the fact that I now own my grandpa's 1979 Ford. And for whatever reason, I called it an F100 because my dad and I were talking about like at a certain year, I forget what year it was, they stopped making the F100 and there were the different things. And so, literally on YouTube, I'm like, "Oh my god, you're such an idiot." Like right behind me, like over my shoulder, you can see the badging on the right uh front fender of the truck and it says F-150, Lariat. Right. And so it's like obviously I know it's an F-150, but there you go. We all make mistakes. So guys, I am telling you, you've been asking about quick hitters, guys. You know, Kyle, when are we going to get into the quick hitters? When are we going to get into all these different stories, faith, culture, politics? We got to hit the big stuff. Next week, assuming all goes well and assuming nothing goes crazy. Next week, we are going to do a quick hitters bonanza. But this week, we need to do, I guess you could call this follow-up episode to episode 905 of this podcast. So, the episode 905 of this podcast was called Crisis of Discernment. And I spent months really thinking about and working on that episode. And it all stemmed from the September 10th assassination of Charlie Kirk on the UVU campus in Utah. And the immediate spin that was happening by people and the conspiracy theorizing and the torturing of Erica Kirk and all the people at TPUSA with all these baseless claims. And I went through a bunch of different reasons for that. Guys, if you if you're somewhat new to this or if you didn't catch episode 905, you really should listen to that because it provides the foundation for today's episode. But on that episode, the main person, she wasn't the main focus of the content, but the main person that I talked about, which was uh it was essentially Candace Owens, and I actually made this quote, "The most egregious violator regarding the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the most nefarious of the conscious nefarious actors is far and away Candace Owens." And so in that episode, I give you the difference between useful idiots, and I'm hopefully going to be speaking to some of those today with this episode, and also the conscious nefarious actors of which Candace Owens is the ring leader right now. And since that time, since the assassination of Charlie Kirk, obviously since I put out that episode, she has continued to spread baseless claim [clears throat] after baseless claim after baseless claim. Her evidence has spawned from, "Hey, I I know. I mean, I don't know, but I know, you know, to, oh, I have a source. Who is your source? Why can we trust your source? Why can we secondarily trust you? Because you trust your source. Is there even a source out there that you're referring to? That's essentially been her evidence. And, oh well, this log doesn't match this log, and this name has one letter different, or oh, Charlie came to me in a dream. Those kinds of things. But she's continuing to spread her baseless claims and her followers, her supporters, you could rightfully call these people zealots, they continue to believe everything that she says. It's like many of these people have lost or frankly never had the ability to think critically, to have intellectual honesty, to look at a situation and try to surmise truth. Now there are people whose brains work more powerfully than others and people that have more natural wisdom. They have more of wisdom as a gift. As scripture teaches us, wisdom is a gift. But for most of us, if we have a functioning prefrontal cortex, we can look at a bevy of information and surmise that's true, that's not, or that seems like it's true based on what evidence we have now, or that seems like it's not true based on the evidence that we have right now. But then beginning on July the 6th, we started to get some doses of reality because that was because from July the 6th to July the 10th, they held the preliminary hearing in the murder case against Tyler Robinson for the murder of Charlie Kirk. So most of the time, I mean, if you think about it, think about all the criminal cases you're aware of and have been made aware of in your life. We don't really hear anything or see any, you know, coverage of preliminary hearings, right? We only see, you know, when the case actually goes to trial. So essentially a preliminary hearing gives the prosecution an opportunity to share some of the evidence that they have against the accused. Right? The defense and the prosecution are involved in this, but the prosecution is basically just, you know, they're not required to provide all of their evidence, but a successful preliminary hearing for the prosecution results in the case eventually going on to trial because they will have presented enough evidence to show that there are at least grounds for the charges against the accused. Okay? And so the judge determines that the evidence provided substantiates that the that there are charges that indeed there are charges. So essentially they are showing that there are some there there. So it's not a trial, right? And it doesn't determine guilt or innocence. So the judge in preliminary hearings is acting as a magistrate in that [clears throat] context. And they only ask whether the prosecution has shown probable cause. Okay? Just probable cause. That's meaning that there's enough credible evidence that a crime was committed and that the defendant likely committed it. Okay? So, the standard in a preliminary hearing is much lower than the beyond a reasonable doubt standard that we've all heard of when it comes to full-on criminal trials. So, the evidence viewed during these hearings, these preliminary hearings, is most favorable and is supposed to be most favorable to the prosecution. Okay? So, not every case gets a preliminary hearing. Uh, and preliminary hearings in Utah are generally reserved for felony cases, of which this certainly is. And the defendant can also wave their right to one, which Tyler Robinson did not. But just to remind you of the charges that are being put against Tyler Robinson right now, count one, aggravated murder, a capital felony, for intentionally or knowingly causing Charlie Kirk's death while knowingly creating a great risk of death to others nearby. This carries a possible death sentence, or alternatively, life without parole or 25 years to life. It also includes a victim targeting enhancement alleging that Robinson selected Kirk specifically because of his political expression. Count two, felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily injury, which is a first-degree felony for firing at Charlie Kirk, knowing that the shot could endanger him, resulting in serious bodily injury that led to his death. Count three, obstruction of justice, which is a seconddegree felony for hiding and removing the rifle used in the shooting. Count four, obstruction of justice. A seconddegree felony for destroying or disposing of the clothing he wore during the shooting. Count five, tampering with a witness, which is a thirdderee felony for directing his roommate to delete incriminating text messages. Count six, tampering with a witness, which is a thirdderee felony for telling his roommate to stay silent and ask for a lawyer if police ask questions. And then count seven, violent offense committed in the presence of a child, which is a class A misdemeanor, because children under 14 were present and visible near Charlie Kirk when he was shot. And here's the thing that you'll notice if you followed both the preliminary hearing and any of the claims Candace Owens had been making since Charlie Kirk was murdered last September. Candace Owens got exposed. Hey guys, real quick. So, I remember back in high school, I was training with these guys and they all got super jacked, but they were training and using these supplements that they were buying online and a lot of them had crazy side effects. These were not good things. There's no telling what all was in these supplements. And so, I've always kind of been scared about what supplements I'm going to put in my body. And I decided when I do start taking supplements, I want to make sure I'm using products that are certifiably clean and also using only high quality ingredients. 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And then what we're going to do is we're going to look at the evidence that was presented at the preliminary hearing and see what we can surmise from looking at both of those sides. So, before we do that, quick trigger warning for any Candace Owens fans that are in the audience. I know there's some of you that are still listening this. Most of the time with Candace Owens, like true fans, like real true believers, zealots, the moment I mention Candace and it's not in a glowing light, they're already gone. But if you're still here, this could be rather uncomfortable for you. But it's a good thing, okay? I'm going to be saying some things that you really need to hear. So, please just stick with me. Hear me out. Cuz best case scenario is you confirm that I'm just another person that doesn't get it, right? That I'm just as dumb as the rest of the sheep, right? that's what what you can potentially get from this. So, I'm going to be giving you evidence for your case. So, it's kind of win-win, right? So, here's the first Candace claim, which is that Robinson Tyler Robinson was never on the UVU campus, that he's a total psy double. So, Candace Owens said this. I don't think Tyler Robinson was there. I think he's a total psy. I think they get look alikes. They get everybody to wear the same outfits. Again, she doesn't define who they is, but they get everyone to wear the same outfits. I believe he played a role. And what he did was he picked up clothes and dumped them behind the Dairy Queen. She said that on the Shawn Ryan show episode 318 which was called Kenneth Owens the most sued woman in America as reported by the Daily Wire on July the 8th 2026. And then she also said this and in my opinion it is definitive proof that Tyler Robinson is a psy. The feds are just putting this on him and I do mean the FBI. This was on her podcast episode 319 called Prove Me Wrong Tyler Robinson is a psy. But then let's go to the preliminary hearing evidence. So on the hearing's second day, which was July the 7th, prosecutors introduced a video compilation, which was exhibit 124 12.4, for uh that the Turning Point USA spokesman Andrew Kovit described in a real time uh in real time as showing Tyler Robinson ving the visiting the UVU campus four times on the 10th or on September the 10th which was uh the last visit which actually stretched into the early morning hours of 911 the day after he after he allegedly killed Charlie Kirk and investigators testified to the same set of appearances and then we have the testimony of David Hull who's a former Utah State Bureau of Investigations agent And this was as reported by the Daily Wire on July the 8th. Quote, "The video showed Robinson walking with a limp consistent with reports that he walked with a stiff right leg or unusual gate before the shooting, indicating he was likely concealing a rifle under his clothing." So, additional footage presented in court showed the man identified as Robinson climbing over the railing of it's it's l. I don't know if that's loose or lost. we'll say the loose center and moving in a prone position seconds before Kirk was shot and then running along the rooftop before dropping to the grass and fleeing on foot carrying an object. Prosecutors also noted that Robinson's own parents recognized him from images released by law enforcement and that his father drove him to surrender to the Washington County Sheriff's Office. And the source for this is CNN. They had an article in July the 11th called Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing takeaways in Charlie Kirk case. This was also reported by the Daily Wire in an article called testimony security footage contradict Candace Owens's insane defense of Tyler Robinson. And that's from July the 8th of this year. So now Candace claimed number two, the man in the surveillance video is too tall to be Robinson. It's actually his roommate Lance Twigs. So his roommate also is gay furry lover. So Candace Owens said this on X on July the 7th. This was my exact point. The person walking in that video they are presenting is very clearly a tall person. Well above six feet. No way this is a 510 or 5'11 person. How tall is Lance Twigs? Cuz again guys, she's just asking questions. That was on her official Twitter account. But now let's go to the preliminary hearing evidence. Investigators testified that the person shown entering and moving across campus throughout the video compilation, including the individual on the loose center roof at the moment of the shooting, was Robinson, not Twigs. So Twigs was separately identified in the hearing only as Robinson's roommate and romantic partner called for a recorded interview about what Robinson told him after the shooting, not as a person investigators placed on the roof. And then the identification of Robinson on campus was corroborated independently by his own parents who recognized him from the same released images. And the sources for this is CNN from July the 8th. uh or actually uh this is from the article called suspect in Charlie Kirk killing said he wishes he hadn't done it roommate told Utah prosecutors that's from July the 9th and it was also reported by the Daily Wire on July the eth then we have Candace Owens claim number three the bullet did not match the rifle she is 99.9% sure Robinson didn't do it and the case against him is non-existent so Candace Owens said this quote where are all of my neocons who have been overwhelmed by the non-existent evidence against Tyler Robinson, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. Hope the money was worth your soul." Again, the implication, I don't know if you got this. The Jews, they have money and then they give it to people to spread information to protect the Jews. Man, journalisming big time. So, that was her on X on March the 30th and she was reacting uh to, you know, and amplifying a March 30th Daily Mail headline. The headline was incredibly misleading. It said bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did not match the rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson. So Candace Owens repeated the claim and called for Robinson's acquitt on her podcast the next day on March the 31st 2026. But anyone who understands anything about a ballistics understands that that is an incredibly misleading headline and that when a a bullet fragments whenever it strikes something like perhaps the spinal cord, right, the the column of the neck or any of those types of things, it doesn't stay in one piece. You don't always get an exit wound, right? And then uh what the under what the underlying court filing actually said, this is prehering, and what the hearing added was that the March 2026 filing uh Owen cited did not say that the bullet did not match the rifle. It didn't say that. It said an ATF comparison of the bullet fragment recovered at autopsy to the rifle was inconclusive. It's not the same thing. So that's actually a technical result forensic experts describe as common with damaged high velocity rifle bullets. Right? So the Utah County Attorney's Office addressed this distinction directly. This was a quote by Christopher Ballard. When the results of the bullet fragment analysis come back as inconclusive, that does not mean that the rifle did not fire the bullet. There just aren't enough marks on the fragment to make a conclusion one way or the other as to whether the bullet fragment was fired by that particular rifle. Again, that was Christopher Ballard, a spokesperson for the Utah County Attorney's Office. This was a statement to Politifact, which was published via Pointer on April the 7th of 2026. That was a prehering statement, not a sworn hearing testimony. And at the preliminary hearing itself, prosecutors did not rely on the damaged bullet fragment. They presented separate independent forensic evidence directly tying Robinson to the rifle and to the shooting. So, I'm going to read this quote here. DNA evidence recovered from various parts of the rifle found near UVU matched Robinson's DNA. Reports from ATF laboratory analysts determined that the likelihood of the DNA belonging to Robinson was at least one trillion times greater than that of it belonging to any other person. [clears throat] So that was testimony of Sergeant Jennifer Falmina of Utah State Bureau of Investigations relaying the ATF lab findings and that was from July 2026. It was from the preliminary hearing. Here's another quote. testing revealed it was at least one trillion times more likely that Robinson contributed DNA to these samples than not, the highest statistic permitted under her laboratory's guidelines. That was testimony of Caitlyn Oliver, ATFDNA section chief. That was part of the preliminary hearing. And then a separate ATF firearms and tool mark report read into the record found that the cartridge casings recovered inside of Robinson's home had been fired by the same rifle found near campus and that a Dremel tool recovered by investigators made engravings and that were found on the casings left in the rifle and the casings that were found inside of Robinson's home. The sources for this are CNN from July the 11th PBS NewsHour. They actually had a article called Lawyers for Man Charged with killing Charlie Kirk try to sew doubt about DNA evidence from July 2026. And then we also see this reported by Pointer and Politifact on April the 7th of this year. Candace Owens claims claim number four, the evidence against Robinson is fake and the public is being gaslit. So Candace Owens said this on her show. It was the first episode after the 4 and a half hour meeting that she had with Erica Kirk. This is from December 16th of last year. With that in mind, I'm saying, why is the public being gaslit on this? So, again, that was her podcast from December the 16th. That was reported by CNN uh on December the 16th. As well, in the same episode, Owens said that she did not believe the person charged is solely responsible for Kirk's death and used a recurring catchphrase to dismiss the evidence in the police affidavit as quote fake and gay unquote. But now let's go to the preliminary hearing evidence. So over the five days, prosecutors laid out a cumulative evidentiary record, DNA matching Robinson at the likelihood of at least one trillion to one. ATF toolmark matches on the cartridge casings and the Dremel used to engrave them. Four separate campus surveilling sightings or surveillance sightings of Robinson before and after the shooting. His roommates's recorded account of Robinson's confession and remorse. a handwritten note which he said, "I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it." A text exchange in which Robinson allegedly confirmed, "I am. I'm sorry." When asked if he was the shooter and uh Discord messages sent roughly an hour before he surrendered. This is the message. Hey guys, I have bad news for all of you. It was me at UVU yesterday. I'm sorry for all this. I'm surrendering through a sheriff friend in a few moments. And after the hearing concluded, Charlie Kirk's family issued a statement uh characterizing the record as follows. As difficult as these last few days have been, it brings our family comfort to know that the world has witnessed the overwhelming evidence of what occurred to Charlie that day. So that was from the Kirk family statement. This was reported by CBS News on July the 10th. Also sources for all this, we have right-wing headlines. Uh they were citing an AP news story. Fox News and CNN reported the same thing. not the bee reported this all citing the testimony. That's all from this month. Then Candace Owens claim number five. Our military was involved. Obviously talking about the United States military. So Candace Owens said this on Instagram in December of last year. Charlie Kirk was assassinated and our military was involved. Okay, this was reported by Yahoo News and Mediite. Uh this was also reported by a lot of other different places and it was citing a tip Owens said that she received from an unnamed service member. Again, they're always unnamed, and I I guess it's just to protect them, right? It's not that they don't exist at all. But let's go to the preliminary hearing evidence. No exhibit, witness, or filing introduced at any point during the 5-day preliminary hearing reference US military involvement of any kind. None whatsoever in the preliminary hearing. So, the entirety of the prosecution's case, as presented, rest on evidence that Robinson acted alone. that his DNA was on the rifle and the towel that it was wrapped in. The engraved cartridge casings, his DNA was on that. Four campus surveillance sightings, his roommate's testimony, his text, his note, his discord confession. This claim is not contradicted by a specific piece of hearing testimony so much as it is unsupported by any evidence that has surfaced in the case uh to date. Really, there's no military witness document or forensic finding that has been a part of the public record at all at this point. And then I'll go ahead and do one more Candace claim. This is number six. That French President Emanuel Mcronone authorized a hit squad including one Israeli of course tied to the plot. So this is what Candace Owen said in November of last year. Couple of months after Charlie Kirk was murdered. The green light was given to a small team in the national gender. I don't know how to say it in my French intervention group. One Israeli was part of the alleged squad and plans were formalized. So, she said this in late November, and this was reported by the Jerusalem Post, by Euro News, by a lot of places. But let's go to the preliminary hearing evidence. As with the military involvement claim, nothing in the hearing record, no testimony, no exhibit or filing references France, President Mcronone, uh, the French services or an Israeli operative who Candace was trying to tie to this entire thing. And the reason why the French even put this hit squad together with one nasty Jew, as she would probably call them, was to take her out because she was getting so close, you guys. She was getting so close. Just give her another week. Make sure you keep sponsoring her. Make sure you keep giving her money because by next week, we're going to have some explosive news for you. And the French and that one Jew, they just couldn't have that at all. Right? So, Euro News and other outlets reported that the, you know, French, Israeli, and US officials had not corroborated any in any part of this crime as of the publication of this podcast and their reporting, and it remains unverified by any law enforcement body. So, Euro News talked about that last November at the time that Candace Owens was making these claims. There's certainly more that I could have looked at, but I just wanted to really point out those top six as Candace Owens's main claims. And again guys, this is just all stuff from the preliminary hearing, right? Just the preliminary hearing because ultimately we can safely assume that the prosecution did not bring forth all the evidence that they have. It wouldn't make any sense for them to do so. They simply brought forth enough evidence to establish probable cause in this case to suggest that Tyler Robinson did in fact murder Charlie Kirk. And then we've had Candace Owens do this quite a bit on her show, especially this year. She's been wondering aloud why Tyler Robinson's defense team has not reached out to her. Like, and again, that's an important question. Why hasn't Tyler Robinson's team reached out to her? Right? Because guess what? If she has exculpatory evidence that could be used to free their client, they're going to not leave any stoneu like unturned, right? which is actually a further indictment of Candace Owens because if she has exculpatory evidence that could be used by the defense because Tyler Robinson is actually innocent, then why isn't she just freely turning it over? Better yet, as opposed to even coordinating with them directly, which yeah, man, that could get kind of sticky. She might have to Google a phone number or email address or something. She's got a huge audience. She could just present the evidence publicly and it would be so overwhelming in its truth in its evidentiary truth value that the defense team would be derelictked in their duties to not reach out to her but they haven't reached out to her and she hasn't offered the evidence publicly. That's kind of weird, right? But actually, it's kind of convenient for Candace Owens because now she can actually widen out the conspiracy. Okay. So, in order for Cace Owens to be correct here, right? Because I I keep being told by people that she knows. She's the one that's correct, here is a somewhat exhaustive list of all the other different entities and people that would have to be involved in this alleged conspiracy in order for Candace Owens to be right. the FBI, the FBI director Cash Patel, the ATF, all of the ATF lab analysts involved in the case, the United States military, the Trump administration, the Utah Valley University Police Department, former UVU PD officer Crest Bailey that testified that he heard the shot and ran toward the roof that he thought the shot came from, which was the Loose Center. The city of ORM, Utah Police Department, all of their first responders that showed up that day. the Utah County Sheriff's Office and their first responders that showed up that day, the Utah Department of Public Safety and their officials, the Utah State Bureau of Investigation, the Utah State Bureau of Investigation officials specifically and namely David Hull, Brian Davis and Sergeant Jennifer Falmina, the Utah County Attorney's Office, which includes Jeffrey Gray, the county attorney, and then all of the deputy prosecutors who filed and are trying this case. Tony Fgraph Jr., who is the fourth district judge overseeing this case. the French government including President Mcronone, Breijit Mcronone and then the National Jin Derary Intervention Group, the Israeli government, Prime Minister Netanyahu and Assad, the Egyptian military, the Egyptian military intelligence services, the news organizations and fact checkers that have been involved in this case, which includes CNN, ABC, NBC, PBS, CBS, the AP, the New York Times, the Washington Post, Fox News, Desireette News, KSL, ABC4, KU TV, Politact, Pointer, The Daily Wire, The Free Press, The Jerusalem Post, Euro News, Right-wing Headlines, Yahoo News, Mediite, Not the Bee, Desire News, again, I think I had that on there twice, The Hill, and many more. Those are just the ones that I could find, but also conservative and independent news commentators like Ben Shapiro, Sarah Fields, Seth Dylan, Ag Hamilton, Colin Wright, Douglas Murray, Blake Nef, who is actually the producer of the Charlie Kirk show, and many others. TPUSA, Charlie's organization. So, this is Andrew Kulvit, Brian Harpole, who is Kirk's head of security and who is actually currently suing Candace for defamation, and other staff, Charlie Kirk's wife or widow, Erica Kirk, Tyler Robinson's own mother and father, Tyler Robinson's gay furry lover, Lance Twigs, Tyler Robinson's defense team, which is Katherine Nester, lead counsel, Richard Novak, capital defense attorney, Michael N. Bert, capital defense attorney, Stacy Visser, defense and appellet attorney. They would all have to be on it obviously because they have to they have yet to argue or even signal that they intend to argue any of the things that Candace Owens has claimed which is odd because the defense has to do everything they can do just to introduce doubt into the mind of the jurors and keep the prosecution from eclipsing the beyond a reasonable doubt standard. And lastly but not leastly Tyler Robinson himself for playing along. That's the list. It's probably longer than that, but it's no shorter than that. Those are all the people that would have to be involved in order for Candace Owens to be correct. And again, this is all just from the preliminary hearing. We still haven't gotten the full court press from the prosecution yet. There is going to be even more evidence that will be presented in court that is going to show that Tyler Robinson indeed was the killer of Charlie Kirk. Even though right now we have to say he was the alleged killer of Charlie Kirk. Doesn't that cause you to reflect a little bit regardless of if you're pro Candace, anti-Candis, if you think Tyler Robinson did it, or you think he was involved but he wasn't alone or that he wasn't there at all. Right? That's the list of all the people that would have to be involved in this conspiracy. And here we are coming up on the one-year anniversary, the Macob anniversary of Charlie Kirk being murdered in broad daylight in front of thousands of people. And none of those people, none of the involved people, none of their spouses, none of their children have come forward to blow the whistle. I guess the Jews are just really good at keeping people silent or the French or the Egyptians or the Americans or the Trump administration. I, you know, it's it's kind of hard to keep them all straight. But this all leads us to two very, very important questions. The first one is this. Why is Candace Owen so keen on getting Tyler Robinson exonerated? Like this is her only reason for existence right now. Now, I have some guesses. There's one obvious guess, which is she's making a crap ton of money right now. So, you go girl, I guess. Like, great job. You are getting those clicks. You are getting those subscriptions. You're getting people to buy merch. You're getting the speaking engagements. You're getting paid to go on all these different trips to uh include Russia, which is interesting. So, that's an obvious guess is, you know, keep saying ridiculous things cuz it's literally paying off. Another guess, which I guess could be less obvious, is she just wants to watch the world burn, right? It's kind of the Joker in the Dark Knight thing. It's just like some people love chaos. Like, I think we've all had that friend where there could be like, you know, a birthday party, everything's going great, like, you know, everything arrived on time, the the food's wonderful, everybody's acting good, and then there's just that one guy, the crazy uncle that's got to pull the pin on the grenade and throw it in the swimming pool, right? like that. There's always just that one person. Maybe that's her. She just loves to watch the world burn. She loves the attention. Absolutely loves it. Whether you love her or hate her. It's kind of like Floyd Mayweather back in the day. It's like, "Love me or hate me, you're going to pay to watch me fight." Which is true cuz if you love him, you want to pay to watch him fight. And if you hate him, you want to pay to watch him fight because he has the chance that he might lose and he might get starched. But another guess, and this is somewhere between possible and probable, is that she is a person with a personality disorder. and a microphone. I think she clearly shows signs of narcissism. She's showing signs of sociopathy and also psychopathy because I think again the I've I've quoted this statistic before. I'm trying to remember off the top of my head, but it's like 1 to 2% of the population in the United States roughly has sociopathic or psychopathic tendencies. And almost all murderers, especially uh serial killers, they all pretty much exhibit sociopathy or psychopathy, which just goes to prove that not everyone that has that personality disorder, that deficiency, is going to go and like kill a bunch of people in the woods. But at the same time, it's this ideology and this way of operating in the world where you flat out don't have the emotional capacity to care about how much damage you're doing. Because if you're a narcissist, you're really only considering yourself in all of your decision-m and all of your actions. If you're sociopathic or psychopathic, you basically don't even have the capability of feeling empathy, of feeling someone else's pain, of stopping yourself from doing what you want to do because it's going to harm someone else. And that manifests in, yes, some people actually physically hurting or killing other people. And sometimes it manifests in people like screwing people over in business. And sometimes it manifests in people saying things they know not to be true in order to make money. Or maybe worse, she thinks it's true. She does think the toaster is talking to her. She does think that Charlie Kirk is talking to her in her dreams. And the second question I think all this brings up is will Candace Owens's fans, supporters, zealots take this opportunity to admit to themselves and to those around them that they were duped? Are they going to take this opportunity to take their learning lump right and just try to do better in the future? I think that's a very very important question because I think one thing that I've noticed from pro Candace people whether they're screaming endlessly in my comment section anytime I mention her or people that I've talked to in person or or really anyone that you've seen is I think they really have this tremendous desire to be one of the enlightened ones. Right? That's whynosticism this draw to you know mystical knowledge that can only be attained by certain people. That's why it's so desiring for a lot of people. They have they're desirous of that. That's why you can make movies about people like climbing to the top of these mountains to get to these places to talk to the guru that lives at the top to get the secret knowledge that no one else can can get. Right? That's why people believe these people that are like, "Oh yeah, I went into the into the mountains and I found this person who taught me a secret martial art and now I'm going to try to teach it to you and they've, you know, some fat guy with a black belt down by the airport." We're drawn to this for some reason. We want to be the one that knows. And when someone purports to be the leader of those people and just says, "Hey, just hang with me. Next episode, I'm going to blow your socks off. Hey, we're getting really close. Hey, I have a source. I have a source and you are just not going to believe what the source has told me, right?" And then, you know, people keep pointing, you know, the high numbers of Candace's viewers or the the downloads or views of her shows is all that, you know, they keep pointing to that uh as evidence that she must be on to something like Kyle. She wouldn't have all these numbers if she didn't at least have something right. Right. And but you know, just to put on my just asking questions hat. Where's all of her traffic coming from? There was an independent report from last year. I'm trying to remember Nick Fentes, maybe it was earlier this year, that an overwhelming amount of his traffic was coming from bots. And where are these bots coming from? Iran, Russia, China, North Korea, otherwise known as enemies of the United States that can do and want to do everything to sow discord and strife in the American electorate. I mean, that that's just the idea here. And the overwhelming thing that I get from these people, again, putting Candace aside just for now, but the people that listen to her blindly, it's just how cluelessly cockure they are. Because again there are people that you know we've kind of talked about on forging table they're so cockure right they believe the right thing whether we're talking about esquetology whether we're talking about the best way to invest your money whether we're talking about the best peptides to take whatever just cockure right they know better the problem is with some of those things that I just indicated you can actually provide pretty straight up good evidence for somebody based on their you know blood work here's a peptide that could work out for you right hey based on your income and based on your goals as a good financial advis adviser would do, someone that's a fiduciary, they could say, "Here's the best thing based on this evidence for you to do with your money in terms of your investing." But with the Candace Owens thing, specifically as it pertains to the murder of Charlie Kirk, these people are clueless. They're their eyes are open, but nobody's home. But they're so sure of themselves. They're so deeply deeply naive. I even heard recently Dennis Prager and again we're praying for Dennis Prager. He's suffered some crazy accident. He's paralyzed and but every now and then he does a podcast and he said something like this recently. He's like, you know, if you're naive in your teens, we can understand that. We can kind of forgive that, right? We all kind of get to that point when we're 16, 17, we think we know everything. But if you're like 25 years old or older and you're still naive, that's a huge problem. Like that's a really big problem that has to be addressed. And so the thing is these people that are so vitriolic and so sure that they are right when asked to provide even a modicum of evidence to support their assertion which again they're just paring from Kis Owens. They've got nothing. They got nothing. It's all hearsay or I had a vision or well what about this? Well, I'm just asking questions. Why couldn't it be that the Israelis put on a microphone that would explode and shoot a projectile directly into his throat? Right. Well, how is it not possible that Frank Turk was actually signaling the assassin to take the shot when he was adjusting his hat? Oh, why did they change out the pavers in the area where Charlie Kirk was shot? Is it to cover up the trap door underneath? Charlie Kirk's still alive. I've heard that one as well. Why he would want to be alive somewhere on this planet and not be dealing inside of the country that he loves and gave his whole life to? Can't explain that, right? And here's the thing. I think a lot of us, including myself, have been justifiably outraged by Candace Owens and her actions since September of last year. how she's comported herself, how she's tortured Erica Kirk and the family of Charlie Kirk and the people that love Charlie Kirk. A bunch of commentators left, right, and center, pagan, Christian, whatever, have pointed out how evil Candace has been carrying herself. So, there's been plenty of justifiable outrage, but shouldn't we move on to the next phase at some point? Because I think we would all agree, all of us that are reasonable, there should be consequences for people that are knowingly causing harm to others, especially the loved ones of someone that just got murdered by spreading misinformation spreading disinformation. Right? I've highly advocated for if you claim a crime against somebody and it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that you lied, you should get the punishment of the person that the person would have gotten that you claimed the crime against. So if you claim you were raped by someone and you weren't raped, you should get the punishment that he would have gotten if he had been found guilty for rape. So in this case, what should Candace Owens deserve? Because all she's getting is more commas in her net worth with all of this. She's getting a larger profile. Now hopefully with the trial, which you know insane decision by the judge has been delayed until September. I mean, we should really get on with this, but it's been delayed until September. The crazy thing is that a lot of Candace Owens people, even if Tyler Robinson is convicted, even if the evidence becomes even more overwhelming, which it likely would, are they going to change their tune? Because at this point, at a minimum, I think we've we've reached a point where I think it's completely okay to actually mock Candace Owens and her followers now because we've shown concern. We've shown outrage. We've shown righteous indignation. But maybe we should move to mockery. I mean, just think about this to the 5enters in our audience. You may not know this because mockery is not really a tool of women. They can't really use it effectively. But it is for men. Mockery works on people, right? Because when you start needling somebody and ribbing somebody and mocking them, it causes them typically to think inwardly, right? like these people need to re-engage with the logic parts of their brain or get them to use them for the first time and we need to get them to start acting differently. We need to try to bring them to truth and we need to speak the truth in love because look, let's say I I came on the show and I said this, "Hey guys, the other day I was sitting there alone in my house eating Spaghetti Os. I wasn't paying attention. And I was kind of daydreaming. And then I looked down into my bowl and I saw the word Charlie. The Spaghettiio spelled out the word Charlie. It was right there. And then I connected with this creature in the fourth dimension. I'm I'm not sure who it was, but they told me find his real killer. And And [clears throat] obviously remember I' I've got Charlie the name sitting right here in my spaghettiios. And then I I heard this voice and it was calling me to do something specific. And so now I'm on the hunt. You would do well not only to doubt me and the validity of any part of that story, but you would also do well to mock me incessantly. And for those that are my foxhole guys that love me to just bring me back to this planet. Oh, okay. That's great. Here, have a drink and a cigar and maybe shut your mouth for a few hours. Okay, come on back. Right. So, to all the Candace Owens fans out there, it's mirror time. It's mirror time. Okay? I I'm doing this right now, and I think all of you listening to this should do this with your Candace Owens people in your life. It's time to hold up the mirror and force them to look at themselves. If you're a Candace Owens person still listening to this, I'm forcing you to look at yourself. I mean, we should metaphorically, maybe even literally if you're into doing literal stuff, force them to look at themselves and evaluate how they've been thinking or not thinking over the last almost year. And also, when these people start to crack a little bit, they start to let the ego go, they start to lean more on truth and evidence, don't deny them entry back into the land of the living, the land of the logical. Nope. welcome them back with open arms. Now, they need to understand that they're probably going to get rid of for this a little bit, right? They're probably going to be the butt of the joke for a while, but you should do well, you would do well to just if you're in that position as a Candace Owens person to just roll your eyes, laugh it off like, haha, yeah, yuck it up, guys, and just just wait for the next time one of us says something stupid or believes something stupid or does something stupid because it's going to happen, right? It's going to happen with us. But I'm just welcoming you to look for truth as your standard, okay? Because you can always have theories out there. And people will be like, "Well, why aren't you concerned about Candace Owens's safety? She's she's trying to get to the truth." And look, that may be the case. I don't think there's any any evidence to to that to defend that. But at the end of the day, we must strive for truth. Truth is undergarded by evidence. That's why there is an evidentiary [clears throat] basis to truth claims. Right? I had a vision or I have a source that I refuse to name. That's not evidence. That's not evidence of anything. Again, you have to remind yourself, why is Tyler Robinson's defense team not bringing Candace Owens in to help them to help them with the defense? Again, if she knows, is it because they're part of the conspiracy? Again, according to you, they would have to be. But just just please be reasonable. Go back to the portion of this episode where I spent a couple of minutes going through the list of people that would have to be involved for Candace Owens to be right and for you to be right. Okay. So, I think it's open season on Candace Owens and her supporters as it pertains to mocking them, right? They they should be mocked. They should be dismissed. Candace Owen should not be getting any more of your attention in as much as it is something that you're keeping track of what she's saying so that you can continue to support the people in your life that actually believe her by pointing them in the opposite direction. And I agree with people, many people in the last few weeks that have pointed out support of Candace Owens is kind of an IQ test at this point because all of us have believed stupid untrue things in our life. But if those stupid untrue things become the center point of your life, you're in a bad bad way. So I'm encouraging all of you just flat out not do that. All right guys, that'll do it for today. But before we go, we are going to do a quick resilience boost at Undaunted Life. Our mission is equipping men to push back darkness with content that forges spiritual, mental, and physical resilience. Don't forget, we are donationbased ministry. There's two ways you can donate. If you want to donate directly to Undaunted Life, undaunted. Unded. It's in the show notes. And if you need a taxdeductible donation, you can actually support the work that Joby and I are doing through the Daily Blade through the New Horizons Foundation. That link is in the show notes. Or you can go to New Horizons Foundation.com. newh horizonsfoundation.com and check that out. And I didn't put all of the references in this show note. I gave them to you verbally as I was going through the entire show. So if you want to go back, that's why I cited the date and the source and all that. But it's just an overwhelming amount of research. Again, thank you for being here today. 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