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BRODY MALONE | From Broken Leg to Bronze Medal (Ep. 689)

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BRODY MALONE | From Broken Leg to Bronze Medal (Ep. 689)
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In this episode, Kyle Thompson sits down with Olympic gymnast Brody Malone to discuss his incredible journey from a devastating injury to winning a bronze medal at the 2024 Paris Olympics. They dive deep into Brody's faith, resilience, and the rigorous training that shaped him into an elite athlete.
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1:00 This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast.
1:22 I'm your host Kyle Thompson, let's get into it.
1:25 All right, guys, we've got a special guest on the podcast today.
1:27 His name is Brody Malone.
1:28 So he is an Olympic gymnast who represented the United States in the 2020
1:32 and the 2024 Olympic Games.
1:34 And he was the leader of the team, I guess you could call him the leader
1:37 of the bronze medal winning team in the 2024 Summer Olympics in Paris.
1:42 And so I met him earlier this summer.
1:44 I was down in Louisiana with the Duck Dynasty crew.
1:47 And he was actually being interviewed in the interview.
1:49 Him and his father were being interviewed literally right before me.
1:52 And so I was in there with him and his dad and two of his brothers were there.
1:55 And so we got to hang out for a couple of days.
1:57 It was just great getting to see this guy and getting to hold the bronze medal
2:01 and all the different things.
2:01 And just to see how normal of a guy was and how he's just a polite country boy
2:06 that he would literally give you the shirt off his back.
2:08 And not just so that he could show off his massive biceps and abs and things like that.
2:12 But just really, really a solid guy.
2:13 And so in this particular interview, which we've had planned for so long
2:16 and just took us this long to get to it because both of our schedules are insane.
2:19 But we just talked about what it was like growing up because he didn't just do gymnastics.
2:22 He was also doing rodeo and he did baseball.
2:25 But at the age of 12, he kind of had two things that happened.
2:27 One, he decided to pursue gymnastics as opposed to the other two sports.
2:31 And also his mother died of cancer.
2:32 And then if you fast forward to the age of 19, his stepmother died of a brain aneurysm.
2:36 And so he talked about the faith that he saw his father show and losing his soulmate.
2:40 And then I guess you could say losing his second soulmate if that's your chosen ideology or phraseology.
2:46 But also like, how did that develop his faith?
2:48 How did it show him resilience and the ability to rely on God and his provision?
2:53 But then we talked about, okay, what is the track from doing gymnastics
2:57 to training gymnastics, to training to be an elite gymnast, to then training to be an Olympic
3:02 gymnast and how it's different for the men and the women here in this country in terms of their
3:06 tracks in order to end up on the Olympic team.
3:08 And then, you know, he was a rural Georgia kid, you know, country boy, but then he ends up going
3:13 to Stanford and Palo Alto to go to school and to compete on their Olympic team, or their men's
3:18 gymnastics team, rather, and kind of the culture shock that he felt from doing those types of things.
3:22 We talked about the 2020 Tokyo Olympics.
3:25 So that was the first team that he actually made.
3:26 But if you remember, because of COVID, they didn't actually compete that year.
3:29 They competed the very next year.
3:30 And he actually was preferring that.
3:32 And so it actually worked out to his benefit, but how, you know, the team finished fifth
3:36 and he finished 10th in the all around, but it's his first Olympics.
3:38 He got that under his bell.
3:39 But then before we could even talk about the 2024 Paris Olympics, we had to spend some time
3:43 talking about a competition in Germany in 2023.
3:46 He was doing a high bar routine and he kind of slipped off the bar a little bit.
3:50 And when he landed, I'll let him get into the detail.
3:53 He destroyed one of his legs.
3:55 The injuries and the lists of things that happened outside of just breaking his leg
4:00 was absolutely catastrophic.
4:02 Now, the fact that he's able to even walk normal now is a miracle, much less do what he did,
4:07 which was to make his way all the way back to competing in the 2024 Olympics.
4:10 Again, that's where the team took the bronze medal.
4:12 Obviously, that was one of the big highlights of the Paris Olympics, at least if you're
4:16 in the United States.
4:17 We talked about all that, how they sucked it up in the qualifying round and how they
4:22 really got it done in the final round and what it was like knowing that Japan and China,
4:26 we're going to be amazing and we're going to be there.
4:28 But having this chance at bringing home the first medal for men's team gymnastics since 2008.
4:34 And then we get into what he's planning on doing now because the 2028 Olympics are
4:38 technically right around the corner.
4:39 They're going to be in Los Angeles.
4:40 So here in his home country, and so what are his plans?
4:43 So you have to stick around to get the answers to that.
4:45 But guys, I really enjoyed my time with Brody. So without further ado, let's get into it.
4:48 Brody Malone, welcome to Undaunted Life of Man's podcast.
4:52 How's it going? Thanks for having me.
4:56 Yeah, man, it's good to see you again, because you and I were hanging out the summer down with
5:00 the duck dynasty fellows.
5:01 And I will say this, I was a little mad at you, Brody, because here I am.
5:05 You know, this is like my third or fourth year in a row going down there.
5:08 And you know, hey, I'm the bearded guy with no skin pigment.
5:11 So I usually get a lot of attention.
5:12 But here you come walking in with your bronze medal and your dad and your brothers and all that.
5:18 And I was just like baloney at that point.
5:20 And like you and your family were prime ribs.
5:22 So I don't really know if you plan that, but I don't appreciate it, man.
5:24 I don't appreciate it all.
5:25 Yeah, I definitely didn't plan for that to happen, but I'm sorry about that.
5:29 No, it's all good.
5:31 I had a great time with you, and we'll get into the bronze medal and all that.
5:34 But we should probably start small.
5:36 Let's do a 30,000 foot overview fly over of your childhood.
5:40 What was it like growing up, Brody Malone?
5:43 Yeah, so I was born in East Tennessee, born in Johnson City.
5:48 And let's see, I was just one of those kids that I had way too much energy
5:54 jumping around and flips on the couch, stuff like that.
5:56 So my parents thought it my big good idea to put me in gymnastics.
6:01 So when I was three, they put me in a little local gym in Tennessee.
6:04 And then after we moved to Georgia, when I was, I think I was five or six.
6:13 So when we moved, we found another local gym.
6:17 And then I started taking classes there.
6:20 And then ever since that, I've kind of just kept up with it.
6:24 I played a lot of other sports when I was younger.
6:26 Baseball, basketball, soccer.
6:30 Baseball was my big one.
6:31 I played baseball until I was about 12, I believe, is when I ended up quitting.
6:37 And then also a cool one is rodeo, I grew up rodeo and so both my family or both my parents
6:43 or poor people, my dad rodeo, my mom rode a question.
6:47 That's kind of how they met and fell in love.
6:50 So yeah, and then there was a time where somewhere along the way, I had to give up
6:57 rodeo in as much so I could focus a little bit more on gym.
7:01 But that wasn't until about high school.
7:03 But yeah, so Jim kind of got serious in high school.
7:07 And I started putting most of my focus and time and effort into that.
7:10 And then ended up getting a scholarship to go to Stanford.
7:15 That was a really cool experience.
7:18 I was on the gymnastics team out there.
7:20 And then while I was there, I ended up qualifying for my first Olympics,
7:25 which was the Tokyo Olympics, the COVID Olympics.
7:29 So that was a really cool experience.
7:32 And then let's see, I just got back from Paris, competing in the 2024 Olympics.
7:38 So that's kind of broad overview of a little bit of my career and how I grew up.
7:43 So yeah, well guys, I will tell you this.
7:45 One of the conversations Brody and I had off air was how initially when you did interviews,
7:50 you weren't really comfortable.
7:51 It wasn't really like your favorite thing.
7:53 But literally what you just did on accident is you sign posted my entire interview.
7:58 And now all that I got to do is drop in along the way on the crap you already told everybody
8:03 in the audience, man, it's like you're a pro at this.
8:05 Look at you.
8:05 I'm getting a little more used to it.
8:08 All right.
8:09 Well, I'm here just in case you revert back into that introvert itself.
8:13 So let's go back to your three o'clock, three o'clock, three years old,
8:17 you're starting gymnastics.
8:18 But yes, you're also doing baseball like a good American young man and rodeo,
8:22 like a good American young man.
8:23 But what made you say, okay, I'm going to pick gymnastics because that's the conversation
8:28 Brody that I've had with a lot of people about my sons because I have a four-year-old and a two-year-old.
8:31 And they're going to be required to play sports, but we're not going to pick the sports.
8:35 Like they're not going to play football because I don't want my 18-year-old to have CTE or something
8:38 like that.
8:39 But like they can play whatever they want, but they've got to be active.
8:42 And we're not going to do this thing where, hey, you're six years old and you look like you're pretty
8:47 good at wrestling.
8:47 So we're only going to do wrestling.
8:49 It's like, no, no, no, like at a certain point, maybe you start to specialize because you're,
8:54 you know, really interested in a particular sport or you're really, really, really good at a
8:57 particular sport.
8:58 But my understanding is, is you were a really good baseball player as well, really good second
9:02 baseman, but you also had some promise in gymnastics.
9:04 But what kind of made you say, no, we're just going to go to the gymnastics route?
9:07 Yeah, and I don't think there's one particular thing that really made me do it.
9:13 I mean, I was 12 years old at the time.
9:15 So I didn't really know much about making big life decisions like that, but it ended up being
9:20 a big life decision.
9:21 And I mean, I love baseball so much.
9:23 I love the team aspect of it.
9:26 My dad was a baseball player growing up.
9:28 So he was kind of like, he was my coach.
9:30 And I love doing that with him.
9:32 But I mean, when the time came down to it, when I had to make that decision, I mean,
9:37 again, I was 12 years old.
9:38 So I don't really know exactly what went into it.
9:41 I just felt like I needed to do gymnastics.
9:44 And that was, I guess God's way of just like nudging me in the right direction, you know.
9:49 Okay.
9:51 One, there's, it's interesting you, you bring up that age because I knew that was the age
9:55 when you kind of broke off and started to really chase the gymnastics dream.
10:00 And again, at 12, you don't really know what that is.
10:01 But, but also, I know this is a somber note, but you've talked about a lot.
10:05 But at the age of 12, you lost your mom to cancer.
10:08 And, you know, obviously that's a formative thing in any young man's life when you lose a
10:14 parent, especially a parent that you, you love, because it's obviously, obviously,
10:18 you loved your mom.
10:18 And then, I mean, if you fast forward to the age of 19, you lose your stepmother.
10:24 I think she had a brain aneurysm or something like that.
10:27 And so these very, very important women in your life and to your father, and obviously,
10:32 just watching you, your brothers and your father, it's very clear that the Malone's,
10:36 the Malone men are close to one another and have a deep and abiding respect for one another.
10:40 But just kind of take me, take me through, through that, because I mean, you're 12 years old,
10:44 you lose mom, it could see, it's one of those core time periods, because you're, you're like,
10:50 pre-teen, right? And you're getting into your teenage years, you're about to develop into
10:54 what a man is, and now a sudden you don't have mom, just take me through that.
10:57 Yeah, I mean, that was definitely one of the hardest times in my life, especially,
11:03 not just for me. I mean, I was 12, and I mean, that's really young, but I mean, I'm the oldest of four.
11:08 So I've got a brother that's two years younger than me, a brother that's four years younger than me,
11:16 or no, six years younger than me, and then a sister who is two years younger than him.
11:22 So we had a pretty wide range of ages there. So kind of what was going through my head,
11:29 and I mean, again, I was 12 when this happened, but I really just turned and looked to my dad,
11:35 and was like, what's he doing, and what can I do to help? Because I mean, he's lost his everything,
11:44 his wife, his soulmate. And I mean, she was my mom, but he was, I really looked to him to see how
11:52 he would handle it and what I could do to help. And he was, he was honestly our family's rock.
11:59 So when he went after my mom passed away at the time, he was a high school agriculture teacher.
12:03 So once she once she passed, he quit that so he could, he could raise us. And I think that was a
12:12 really pivotal moment, or a pivotal decision and his life and, and for our lives as well, his kids.
12:21 So him quitting his job allowed him to spend way more time with us and like,
12:27 be act actually be there to raise us. So I got to see, you know, how it affected him and how he
12:34 handled it. And it just, he's, he's a phenomenal, phenomenal role model. And I think you should
12:40 probably have him on one of your podcasts too, because he has quite the testimony to tell.
12:46 And he's, he's pretty good at telling it. So well, you know, I'd love to have your dad on. So we can
12:52 probably knock that out in 2025. But tell me a little bit, because you've already mentioned,
12:56 mentioned God, and you know, your faith and your relationship, but with, and there's really no,
13:02 but here, but with a lot of kids, when they experience something like this,
13:07 it shakes whatever's at their core, whatever's at their foundation. And so for some families,
13:12 it's Christ, for some families, it's just this generic morality, or for some families, it's what
13:18 I call like, you know, country music theology, where it's like, Hey, we listen to country music
13:21 and occasionally vote Republican and God's pro those things. And so we get to go to heaven, right?
13:25 Those types of things. But for you, I mean, I guess what was, what was your faith before this
13:31 happened with your mom? How did that affect your faith afterwards? Because that's another thing
13:35 that was apparent with the Malone's, it's just this deep and abiding faith in Christ.
13:41 And the finished work that happened on the cross. So take me through that.
13:45 Yeah, and I will say just to preface it, it's not an uphill journey. You know, you've got,
13:52 especially in terms of faith, I mean, you've got your, your ups and your downs, but something
13:56 that I saw. And I mean, we went to church when I was younger. And I mean, I was baptized when I
14:03 was, I was saved in baptized when I was like eight or nine, something like that. So, I mean, I had
14:10 faith under God was there. Did I understand what God was doing at the time? No way. And I don't think
14:16 my dad did either. But my dad was really the role model and how we handled that situation, as I was
14:23 saying before. So I watched him turn into a deeply faithful man at a young age. And that really,
14:31 really encouraged me to continue in my walk. Now, I will say as I grow up, I mean, the faith
14:37 journeys like this, you know, and you know, going through high school and college, it's definitely
14:42 had its ups and downs. But I'll say, I mean, my faith right now is as strong as it's ever been.
14:48 And a lot of that, a lot of the reason for that is just having my dad as a role model
14:53 and see in the way he's, he's handled these adversities in life, these trials and struggles
14:58 and come out in a stronger relationship with God than he had before.
15:04 Brody, if I may, I want to dig in just a little bit more on that because most people, you know,
15:12 the idea of soul mates, I mean, if anybody ever married the wrong person, then that messed it up
15:17 for everyone because that guy was meant for that guy. So that guy's gonna have to marry this gal.
15:21 Now he was meant for that guy. And it just kind of all falls apart. But just colloquially speaking,
15:25 in terms of soul mates, people don't typically lose their soul mate when they're younger,
15:32 right? If anything, it's kind of like, you know, after, you know, either a divorce or a very,
15:36 very long relationship and, you know, somebody has to die first. But most people don't have to
15:41 experience and endure losing their soul mate or losing their life mate twice. And your dad did that
15:48 twice in a span of less than a decade. And so, I mean, dude, there are strong dudes, right? And,
15:54 you know, strong doesn't just mean, you know, you know, deadlift and bicep curls like strong is like
16:00 an internal constitution of resilience. And I'm going to get through this and I'm going to grip
16:05 my way through this. And obviously you can't really do rodeo if you don't have some of that
16:09 natural toughness and things like that. But like, what did you witness because you're 12 so you're
16:14 not, you know, an adult, but you know some things. But then when you're 19, you're an adult and you
16:19 do know a whole lot more. Tell me what that was like just watching your dad go through that now
16:25 and kind of seeing like what that does to him. Yeah, I mean, it was a very big difference
16:30 between what I've noticed when I was 12 and when I was 19. I mean, when I was that young when I was
16:37 12, I mean, I'm sure he did a really good job of hiding certain things from not just me but the
16:43 rest of my siblings as well. So I tend not affect us as much. But when I was 19 and that happened,
16:52 I got to see a more real side of it, I would say. Because at the, I mean, when I was 19,
16:58 I'd just gone off to college. Me and my dad, I literally talked to him every day on the phone.
17:02 I mean, we're a very, very close family and we got very close after my mom passed away.
17:07 So going from just like seeing his progression of his faith and then seeing
17:17 her name was Lynn or my stepmom pass away and seeing how that affected him was just, I got to
17:22 see a much more real and raw side of it, I would say. And I mean, he was in pain, he was hurting.
17:28 But again, this was another opportunity in his life that he used to turn to the Lord.
17:35 And I saw his faith. I mean, he was someone in pain. And a lot of times,
17:42 that's when we go to God the most and give God our most is when we're in pain like that.
17:47 So I saw that firsthand and it was, I mean, we were all hurting, but it really strengthened
17:53 our relationship, my relationship with my dad, our relationship with our family and
17:58 ultimately it strengthened my relationship with God seeing how much he leaned on God.
18:04 I appreciate letting us go into that a little bit because throughout our lives,
18:09 we're going to go through different tests of our faith. And it's how you embrace those. And as
18:15 my good buddy, Pastor Joby Martin out of Florida says, like, if you try to fight the devil in the
18:19 dark, you're going to get your butt kicked. Like, that's where he lives. That's where he operates.
18:23 And the more you go towards the dark, the more you go towards isolation in the
18:27 less you rely and depend on God, the more you're going to be getting your butt kicked. And that's
18:31 not a fun feeling. So I want to get back into what, you know, elite gymnastics training is like.
18:37 But you kind of had a, you know, maybe a little bit of an attack of faith because here you are
18:41 Georgia country boy. And then here you are now, you go to Stanford. Okay. So now you're not only,
18:48 you know, across the country, you're in California and you're in an area of California that can be
18:52 a cesspool when it comes to morality or even just the cleanliness of the streets that you're
18:56 walking on. But here you are at Stanford. You're there to do your gymnastics things, what we'll
19:00 get into, but just talk to me a little bit about the culture shock and the expectations.
19:05 Because I remember we're sitting down at dinner and you tell me the story about how you open the
19:08 door for a lady like your first day on campus. And she kind of looks at you like toxic masculinity.
19:15 And you're just like, yeah, wait, what, like, I just thought I was being chivalrous and opening
19:19 the door for you ma'am. I wish you would had a cowboy hat on so you could have tipped your cap
19:23 to her and called her ma'am on the way and just really jack with her. But tell me a little bit
19:26 about what that was like. Yeah, I mean, that was, honestly, at the time, it was like a complete 180
19:34 just culture switch. I mean, you can just imagine, you know, going from rural southern boy in the
19:42 south to, you know, Palo Alto, California. It's, it was, it was pretty wild, but I will say I learned
19:50 a lot from it. But yeah, the, so the story you're talking about, I was walking into the dining
19:56 hall and it was a lady and her two kids. And I held the door open for her two kids, her two kids
20:02 went in and then she went in and she didn't even look at me. And I was like, which, I mean,
20:08 you don't do something and right like having the expectation to be that for it or be praised for it.
20:14 But I was just like, wow, because I'd never had anything happen like that to me before. So I
20:18 called my dad immediately. I was like, that you never, you're never gonna guess what just happened.
20:22 I was like, I held the door open for this lady and her kids and she didn't even look at me.
20:26 And he goes, well, son, you know, you don't do nothing. You don't do anything in life to be
20:31 thanked for it. I was like, yeah, you're, you're, I was just so shocked. And then the one that got
20:37 me the most, I was actually having a conversation with one of my professors one day. And I was
20:45 talking to him, I kept saying, yes, sir, no, sir. And I was in the middle of one of my sentences,
20:50 and he goes, Brody, stop. You do not have to, you do not have to call me sir. This is California.
20:57 Oh my goodness. But yeah, I mean, it was like just, just that kind of thing. It's just a much
21:05 different culture. And it was very, very much a shock to me. But I will say over the four years,
21:12 I did get used to it a little bit more. But I am happy to report that even when you met me,
21:18 and I'm not that much older than you, you called me sir a bunch so much so that I wanted to be like,
21:23 Hey, Brody, we're in Louisiana. You don't have to keep calling me sir. But hey, I'm glad that you
21:27 didn't drop that off entirely. Okay. So now we need to get into the whole world of gymnastics,
21:32 because again, gymnastics is one of those sports that for a lot of people there, they don't even
21:35 pay attention to it, except for once every four years, but then whenever they pay attention to it,
21:39 they're like all in, and it's just crazy. But for me as an athlete, just seeing the things that you
21:43 guys are able to do, it just kind of boggles the mind like I don't watch what you guys do and think
21:48 to myself, Oh, that looks easy. I know better than then, you know, a lot of these guys that look at
21:52 them like, Oh, I could run and flip and do all that dumb crap. But there's a big difference Brody
21:56 between doing gymnastics between training gymnastics, and then training to be an elite gymnast,
22:05 and then training to be an Olympic gymnast. These are all huge jumps along the way.
22:11 So let's just start at the age of 12. And let's just talk about, okay, we're doing gymnastics now.
22:17 What does that mean for your training regimen? What does that mean whenever you realize, okay,
22:21 there's something here, we're going to train to be elite. And now it's like, hey, it's not
22:25 just a lead. We're going to do this collegially. And then, you know, with men's gymnastics,
22:29 if you're good, collegially, you do end up looking at the Olympic route where it's a little bit
22:33 different for the gal. So take us through that. Yeah, so I mean, when I was 12, I mean, obviously,
22:40 I'd made the decision to want to do gymnastics full time pretty much. I still rode you out a little
22:45 bit. But I mean, as far as the training regimen and stuff like that, it didn't really change at the
22:51 time. At the time, I'd switched gyms. So the first gym that I went to, and when we moved to Georgia,
22:59 I actually closed their boys program. So they turned into a girls only gym. So I had to switch
23:04 gyms. So I went to Carter'sville, Georgia, that was where our gym was at. And I mean, honestly,
23:12 that was a blessing because I got blessed with some really phenomenal coaches. So it wasn't until
23:18 about, I'd say 14 or 15 when I really decided that I wanted to pursue it at a top top level. I mean,
23:26 I knew I wanted to do good and go to college and stuff. But when I was 15, that was the first time
23:32 that I made the junior national team. And that to me was like a huge, huge accomplishment. And
23:41 that motivated me so, so much. Because I just wanted it more and more. And I like pretty much
23:49 barely made the team. So once that happened, I just got so motivated. I was like, all right,
23:54 I'm giving all my energy and effort every day in the gym. And we'll see where this goes. And
24:00 the first step after that was, you know, deciding which college I wanted to go to and go in that
24:07 route and just getting good enough to make it to college. So went through the rest of high school.
24:13 I decided, well, I told myself that, you know, I wanted to go to the Olympics. At the time,
24:19 I probably didn't really understand exactly what all that would entail. I just knew I kind of wanted
24:23 to do it. So and the best route for guys in the United States is to go through the NCAA route.
24:30 So I know I wanted to go to college. By the time that came around, I scheduled five official visits.
24:37 My first one was Penn State. My second one was Iowa. Stanford was number three.
24:43 And then I had Ohio State and Air Force planned after that, I think. But actually,
24:51 when I went to, when I went on my Stanford visit, right before I got on the plane to go,
24:56 they're the coach called me and he was like, Hey, if I want to let you know your application got
25:00 accepted and you've been accepted into the school, you've been admitted. And so at that point, I was
25:07 kind of like, Oh, well, Stanford's really hard to get into. I don't think most people understand
25:12 the acceptance rate is ridiculously low, but they don't at Stanford, you can't just, you know,
25:18 put a gold star by an athlete's name and expect expect to get in. You still have to show, you know,
25:24 the academic side of things. It's not like other schools. So I was like, okay, I just got into
25:30 Stanford, you know, as long as this trip goes pretty good, there's no reason I shouldn't go there.
25:34 So I went on the trip, met the coaches and the team toward campus, you know, did all the whole thing.
25:40 I loved the coaches. I loved the team. I meshed well with the guys. I really
25:46 appreciated the training plan that they had set up there. It was very thought out. So I was like,
25:53 yeah, it'd be pretty dumb if I didn't go here. So I accepted it and ended up going to Stanford and
26:02 the rest after that is kind of, I mean, that was, that was a huge dramatic change from the culture
26:10 shock to, you know, moving away from home. I mean, I'm someone who, as soon as I got there, I was
26:17 homesick. I'm very dependent on my family. So that was a whole thing. And then taking on this new
26:24 training load was just, it just opened my mind so much because there was so much different than
26:30 what I was doing. Everything was super, super structured. And there's, there's a method to it.
26:36 So a lot of my freshman year was figuring out, you know, learning how to train properly,
26:44 how to cycle properly. And, you know, getting bigger skills that would make me competitive
26:52 enough to be in the Olympics. So it was, it was definitely a whirlwind of stuff to get there. But
27:00 once I got there, it all started falling into place. And guys, when he says cycle, he does not
27:06 mean trannable or any other enlisted stairwell. Hey, we got some haggard knuckle-draggers in this
27:13 audience. I just had to make sure that they knew you guys weren't on all the ROI on the planet.
27:17 Training, training cycle, training cycles, guys, because you want to peek during competition time,
27:23 not two weeks before. That's what he's talking about. But I do want to talk just briefly about
27:27 kind of the difference between the tracks for male gymnasts and female gymnasts. Because one
27:32 thing you told me that was interesting that I just didn't know is you said, look, if you're an elite
27:36 male gymnast, you go the collegiate route, which leads to the Olympic route. But that's not the same
27:42 for the female gymnast. So there's a lot more money and a lot more backing for women's gymnastics
27:47 in America. And perhaps you can get into some of those reasons if you'd like. But if you are,
27:51 and I don't want to be derisive in any way, because if you're a collegiate gymnast of any of any
27:56 stripe male or female, like you're a tremendous athlete, but you don't really see, you know,
28:01 people that are at, you know, a women's gymnastics program in college going on to the Olympics,
28:07 that's not really their track. It's a different tier of athlete for the females that goes the
28:12 Olympic route versus the collegiate route. So tell us a little bit about those differences.
28:15 Yeah. So, and I will say it is starting to change on the women's side. So a lot of
28:22 the girls who went to the Olympics in Paris were actually a part of college teams.
28:27 So, and that's something that we haven't seen in the past, but I would say the main factor
28:31 that went into that in the past was just different ages of peaking. So girls will peak
28:38 a lot younger than guys will. So, I mean, the average age for a gymnast, a male gymnast in the
28:44 Olympics, I mean, they're probably like mid 20s. And you've got some into their late 20s and even
28:50 early 30s that are still going. So that's just kind of, and it's just more of a strength thing.
28:56 So, I mean, you don't really start developing your strength until like your actual strength
29:00 until you get into your 20s. I mean, of course, you're going to be strong, but we call it your
29:04 man strength. That's right. I mean, I was strong when I was in high school, but once I got into
29:08 college and I was 21, 22, I felt I was way stronger than I was when I first came in.
29:14 But for women, they just peak a lot sooner. I mean, their bodies are different than ours.
29:23 So, it's just different. But especially this past quad, we've seen a lot more
29:30 girls who have gone the collegiate route and also still done the elite track.
29:35 So part of the difference, part of the reason it's so different is because college
29:41 women's gymnastics is completely different than women's elite gymnastics.
29:47 And then for men, it's the opposite. For men, we do the same in college. We do the same thing
29:55 that we do in elite. So it's the same, you know, code of points, same scoring system, everything.
30:01 So basically, we can use the NCAA season to train and prepare for elite competition and, you know,
30:09 make a national team and for international competitions. For women, they're on a 10-0 system
30:14 in college, the famous 10-0 system. And then for elite, they do a similar scoring system to ours.
30:20 Well, you'll see girls score anywhere from like a 12 to a 15 if you're Simone Biles, you know.
30:26 So that's part of the reason why it's different for girls because for college, they're training,
30:33 you know, different routines and different skills. And then for elite, there's a lot more
30:39 skills in their routine. And you're typically doing a lot harder skills so that you're
30:44 more competitive on an international scale because you don't just have to get to a 10-0
30:49 start value, you have to go higher than that. So yeah, it's a little bit different, but we have
30:55 seen it shift more towards girls who are doing college and elite.
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32:44 All right. So I appreciate getting into that detail and we'll get into your first Olympics
32:48 here in just a second, but you mentioned Simone Biles. So I'd be remiss if I didn't at least ask
32:53 the question because here's the thing that makes no sense to dummies like me. I've never dumbed
32:56 gymnastics. I've never really done any of those things. I discovered I could do backflips in college,
33:01 but we're talking one, get a really good running start and then do one standing back or something
33:07 like that. It doesn't make sense, Brody. When you watch her, it looks like CGI. It doesn't make
33:13 sense that something so small, because when you see her next to other people, you're like, "Oh,
33:18 my gosh. She's almost legally immediate. This is kind of crazy," and again, I know some people
33:26 have some quibbles with some of her political stances and crap. She said, "I don't care about
33:29 any of that right now." Just athletically speaking, help me understand how she's able to be that much
33:37 better because when I watch baseball, we're both baseball guys. When you're watching a guy like
33:41 Shohei Otani, it doesn't make sense. How can you be the best hitter in baseball and a top 10
33:46 pitcher in baseball? That doesn't make any sense. We don't see that. I'm trying to think of anybody
33:50 like Michael Jordan. How could he possibly, when he was on the court with these other greats like
33:56 Patrick Ewing and Charles Barkley and Carl Malone and John Stockton, how could he be
34:00 that much better than all these guys? But Simone, the gap between her and the next gal
34:05 is bigger than any other gap that I can think of off the top of my head, except for maybe John
34:10 Jones in MMA when he was in his elite peak, just running through the entire division. I just can't
34:15 think about it. Help me. Yeah. He is the simplest way to put it. She is hands down the best
34:25 female gymnast that there ever was or probably will be. She's got a level of just power and
34:34 explosiveness that is just so far ahead of all the other girls in the world. It's really no
34:42 competition. It's really insane. I mean, she's doing, I'm sure you've seen her floor routine just
34:47 how powerful she is. I mean, she does a triple double in her floor routine, which is like,
34:53 I don't even do that on my floor routine. That's a really freaking hard skill and triple double
34:59 just for people who don't know is a double back flip with three twists. So it's ridiculously hard
35:05 and there's not even a lot of there's not even a lot of guys that do that skill.
35:09 So I mean, just her level of power is insane. And because of that, that allows her to do a lot
35:19 harder skills than the other girls. And that in turn raises her star value so high that I mean,
35:25 she can just blow everyone out of the water. There's only one girl that I know of that could really
35:33 give her a run for her money. And Josh. Yeah, Rebecca on draw on draw day or something.
35:40 I'm gonna I'm butchered that from Brazil. She's from Brazil. Yeah, from Brazil.
35:44 She is the closest one for sure. And it's still like some moment have to mess up a couple times
35:50 and Rebecca would have to have a really, really good mate to do that. I mean, you kind of saw that
35:54 at the Olympics and all around finals. Simone, I think Simone had a fall somewhere or some mess
36:02 up and then Rebecca was kind of getting close. But yeah, I mean, she's the only way to explain
36:08 it. She's just he's a beast. She's just on another level from everyone else. And it's gonna be really
36:15 hard for other people to catch her. Yeah, I'll I'll say this whenever watching her, she's so good,
36:21 she looks bored. And so that's the thing is like other people were being really good. Like they
36:25 didn't look bored. They still look like they were trying hard, but she just doesn't look like she's
36:28 trying hard at all. So all right, let's get into it's crazy. Yeah, let's absolutely let's get into
36:34 the Tokyo Olympics. So obviously 2020, everything kind of falls apart. So you become an Olympian,
36:41 which is amazing. So I want to hear that story, but you don't get to compete in 2020. But you're
36:47 trying to peak for 2020, but then they cancel the games. And then there's kind of like this
36:51 lull and this, you know, kind of arrested development, like when exactly we're going to do this thing,
36:56 it ends up happening in 2021. But you're an Olympian, right? So you get to do all the things,
37:01 the opening ceremony, you get all the polo clothes and you get to compete. So what was it like becoming
37:06 an Olympian having to wait the COVID year and then finally getting to compete for your country in
37:09 2021? Yeah. So this is probably going to be a little bit of a controversial statement. But let's
37:16 go. I love those. Those are my favorite. I was actually glad that the Olympics got postponed
37:24 a year. It just for me, I mean, for a lot of people, it probably it might have hurt them.
37:30 And their athletic careers, as far as like how they're cycling, not on steroids, but like they're
37:37 trying to cycle. But yeah, so for me, just going into 2020, from 2019 to 2020, I was going into my
37:46 sophomore year at Stanford. I was trying these really big routines with big skills that I hadn't
37:54 done for very long. So and I was my plan was to use the NCAA season, which is January through
38:02 April, I believe, just use all of those competitions to train these upgraded routines that I'm going
38:09 to be using for the Olympics or to try to make the Olympics. And it really to be honest, it really
38:15 wasn't going well. I was struggling a lot, especially with my my high bar routine. I had a couple
38:22 new big releases in there that just it just seemed like every competition, I just couldn't
38:27 put a routine together. So when COVID happened, you know, everyone they kicked us out of Stanford,
38:35 we had everyone had to go home, I kind of got a little bit of a break without doing gymnastics.
38:40 That was actually, I actually really enjoyed it because as soon as I kicked us out a few weeks
38:45 later, it was turkey season. And I did nothing, I did nothing but hunt turkeys for that entire
38:52 season. So that was really awesome. I enjoyed that. It was a nice break from gymnastics. But you know,
38:58 once things started settling in a little bit, it was time to get back in the gym. And so I found
39:04 some local gems that I could work out at. And then I eventually ended up moving down to Texas with
39:11 a couple of my Stanford teammates. I think there was like six of us down there. We all just decided,
39:16 hey, we're going to go to this gym in Texas and just be together and train together. Because
39:20 that's a that's a huge part of being successful and a sport is having people around you that are
39:26 like minded and have the same goals. And I mean, I was pretty much just training by myself. It was
39:31 me and one other dude in Georgia. So I was like, okay, I need to as much as I like being home,
39:36 I need to make the right decision and moved to Texas to be with my buddies and teammates.
39:42 So I would say that that entire time where I was training and getting ready, I just used that
39:48 as just time to hone in on those skills. I was still training the same routines with the same
39:54 skills. But I had pretty much an extra year to get them under my belt and get them so comfortable
40:00 and solid. So that's why I think that that extra year was a blessing for me because it really helped
40:07 me mature and understand the skills that I was doing and just getting more numbers under my belt
40:14 because gymnastics, it's it's a numbers game, especially when you're doing skills like that.
40:19 So leading leading up to to the Olympics, we had another NCAA season. I came back, I think I got
40:28 back on campus at Stanford and like end of January or February because Stanford was being really
40:35 wishy-washy about letting us back. And so when I finally went back, we had to do it, I think it was
40:41 either seven or a 10-day quarantine. So I couldn't even go in the gym for however long it was. So we
40:47 pulled, you know, equipment from the gym that we could fit in our little dorms that we were in,
40:53 like a floor pommel horse and mushrooms and parallettes and stuff so we could do some kind
40:59 of workout, you know. But yeah, after that, it all pretty much came down to, all right,
41:07 this is the Olympic year. It's actually happened in this year. I got to focus in and my training
41:12 got super serious. And like I said, I use the NCAA season to get really comfortable with my routines.
41:19 And then I ended up doing really well at USA championships and Olympic trials that year and
41:25 made my first Olympic team. And it was a pretty incredible experience. I mean, going from, you know,
41:31 a little boy, 13, 14 years old, you know, being like, oh, I want to go to the Olympics and,
41:36 you know, not really understanding exactly what all that entails to going through that whole
41:41 experience and finally, you know, having it come to fruition was, it was pretty incredible.
41:48 So Brody, just in general, most of us will never be in pressure cooker situations where the pressure
41:54 is so high on us to perform. Like when most people do their jobs, there typically aren't
42:00 thousands of people watching in person and millions of people watching around the globe. It's usually
42:04 just maybe our boss or our cubicle made or something like that. And so, but we've all had different
42:09 times where, you know, choosing an athletic thing. Like I know whenever I compete in jujitsu, it's
42:14 like, crap, there's a ton of pressure to perform because you want to do well for your coaches. You
42:18 don't want your family to watch you get smoked by another human being, like all those different
42:22 things. But just describe the pressure because, you know, at the Tokyo Olympics, the team finished
42:28 fifth. I think you finished 10th in the all around or something like that. And so, you know,
42:31 you got your first Olympics under your belt, but just describe the Oh, crap. I'm about to
42:36 do my first Olympic thing. I've got the rings on my uniform along with the flag of my country.
42:42 Holy crap. How did I end up here? How do you deal with the pressure? Yeah, I mean, that's something
42:48 that any athlete has to be able to prepare for, especially elite athletes. It's just a mindset.
42:57 And it's how you there's a mentality behind it. And there's a mental approach for me.
43:01 My mental approach to any competition, whether it's the Olympics or even if I'm just done a practice
43:09 competition in my home gym, I try to put myself in the moment. And it's just one routine at a time.
43:16 That's that's all I think about. And then you can break it down even further. I mean,
43:19 our routines and gymnastics have 10 skills in them. So I had one skill at a time. So when I'm
43:24 when I'm going up to an event, I'm focusing on, okay, I'm going to salute my hand to this judge,
43:29 start my routine. What's my first skill? And then I go to that. And then it's just muscle memory
43:36 after that. And that that really helps me stay focused and stay in the moment. Because one thing
43:41 I've learned and I kind of learned the hard way is if you take yourself outside of the moment and
43:46 you start thinking about outcomes, or you start thinking about the competition you're at, like,
43:51 oh my gosh, this is the Olympic Games, like I'm competing in front of, you know, thousands of people
43:57 or millions of people are watching me back home. I'm representing my country on the highest stage.
44:02 That's when you start getting out of your zone. So for me, I always like to bring it back down to
44:08 this is a business trip. Like I'm here. I have plenty of faith and trust in myself and my coaches
44:14 and how I'm trained to get here. It's just another routine. So I'm going to go and do it and I'll
44:19 worry about all the external stuff later. So it's it's really just about dumbing it down to its most
44:26 simplest form. So for me, that's just tell myself this is just another routine. I'm saluting my
44:30 hand right now and there's no difference in this routine that I'm doing right now and one that I've
44:36 done the same one that I've done 100 times back home in the gym. It's it's the same exact thing.
44:40 So that that's kind of my mental approach to it. And that's definitely been what has helped me the
44:45 most. All right, very good. Well, now we need to fast forward to 2023. So this is the prep year
44:52 for the 2024 Paris Olympics. And here you are at the world championships in Germany. You know,
44:58 all things considered, you're one. Go ahead. Not a world championships.
45:01 Not a world championship. Sorry. I'll correct you there. Yeah, no, it was it was just a team
45:07 competition that happens every year in Germany. So this was in March of 2023. World championships
45:14 happened later that year and it was October or November or something like that. Okay, my apologies.
45:19 I mean, it was a no, you're good. I just wanted to make sure yeah, not worlds, but it was still a
45:24 team competition. So all right, so let's go back to that team competition. It's an important
45:29 competition. Nonetheless, year before the Olympics, I guess when you take all things into consideration,
45:34 you are one of the best male gymnasts, certainly in our country, but in the world at this time,
45:40 you're trying to make sure that you're cycling and peaking and all those different things.
45:45 And you've got a high bar routine. And in the process of the dismount, you suffer what for
45:52 anybody Brody is not only a life altering injury, but a career ending injury certainly
45:59 for a gymnast. And so it's an injury that I've never heard of, which, you know, again, for as
46:05 much as I follow men's gymnastics, but take us through what was going on with this high bar routine,
46:10 what you were attempting to do and then what ended up happening. Yeah. So to preface it a little bit,
46:18 this was a really cool competition because it was my first international competition back
46:25 since 2022 World Championship. So I was at 2022 World Championships, and that's where I won gold
46:32 on high bar. And so one of my biggest competitors, who actually won high bar at the Olympics
46:39 in Tokyo, I use a Japanese gymnast, his name is Daiki Hashimoto. So I had, I think he placed second
46:47 or third at 2022 Worlds. And he was at this competition in Germany. So this was the first
46:52 time that I had seen him and competed against him again since World Championships. So in my mind,
46:58 I was like, okay, I got to do it. I got to do it again. I got to, I got to beat this guy again,
47:02 you know, it's just my competitive drive coming out. I'm pretty competitive, if you couldn't tell.
47:08 But yeah, so first competition back seeing him, we had had the team competition, and we were moving
47:15 into event finals. So I made high bar event finals. So, and he was also in it. So I going into it,
47:22 I was just like, all right, I got to do this. And to be honest with you, it was one of my best
47:27 routines that I've done. I go through the whole routine, all my releases were caught really well.
47:32 I was doing some that we call them talk, talk half and talk full on high bars, like where you
47:38 hike through and shoot up. But those are all like angle skills. So you want to hit perfect handstand
47:44 if you go past, you get deduction. So I hit all my releases good. I hit those in bar skills,
47:50 like perfectly in handstand. It was just, it was a really good routine. And then I wound up for my
47:55 dismount. And when I tapped through the bottom, my left grip just kind of slips off the bar.
48:01 And I go, I'm in the air and I'm doing like a double back flip with a half twist. And in my mind,
48:08 I'm like, I can still land this and beat this guy. Like, I know I slipped off. I know I messed up.
48:13 I don't really know where I'm at in the air. Like, I have a general clue. But in my mind,
48:17 I'm like, I got to land this. I got to land this so I can beat him. I can still do it. And well,
48:23 I did not land it. I take a pretty nasty fall, dislocated my knee fractured. It was a tibial plateau
48:33 fracture, which is where like your knee, your knee joins between your femur and your tibia and
48:40 phibia. And like, I basically just chipped a whole piece of my tibia off. I had a lot of
48:47 cartilage damage, torn meniscus, torn LCL, partially torn PCL and posterior lateral corner,
48:56 which is like the back part of your hand strain. That was also torn. So it was a pretty,
49:02 pretty egregious injury. But you know, at the time when it happened, I had no idea what had
49:07 happened. Obviously, I just know I fell and my knee hurt really bad. But the one thing that
49:13 really stands out to me is like, as soon as it happened, I was like, I just I was laying on the
49:20 ground. I was in a lot of pain. I was like, in my head, I was like, why God? Like, why is this
49:25 happening? We're, you know, a little over a year out from the Olympics. And I mean, I just prayed
49:31 to him. And then I came to this realization and I had this this piece come over me. And I was like,
49:38 I just came to the understanding that, you know, God's got this God's going to use this as something
49:43 to glorify him. Whether that be through my platform or through my performances going on or
49:49 through my rehab, like I didn't know at the time. But I felt a piece about it. I mean, I was still,
49:57 you know, upset that it happened. But I knew it was part of God's plan. So the number one verse that
50:03 I thought of and have used this throughout my recovery has been, I got it right here. I'm going
50:11 to read it. So I don't butcher it. It's James one, two through four says consider it a great joy. My
50:18 brothers and sisters, whenever you experience various trials, because you know that the testing
50:23 of your faith produces endurance and let that endurance have its full effect so that you may be
50:29 mature and complete lacking nothing. That was so when I when I read that, I think my dad actually
50:36 told me about that verse after it happened. And I was kind of mind boggled by it because here I am
50:43 going through this this huge trial. I mean, this is the worst injury I've had in my career. Before
50:49 this, I was very blessed to not deal with a lot of major injuries. But here's something that could
50:55 potentially end my career. And I read this verse and I'm like, wow, I'm supposed to be happy right
51:02 now. Like it tells you consider it considered a great joy when you experience trials. I'm like,
51:10 wow. So I kind of had to reframe my mindset around that and and twist it around. And I mean, once I
51:18 realized that God's going to be using this for something that then it was a lot easier for me to
51:23 consider it a great joy because I mean, I wasn't super happy about it when it happened. So yeah,
51:29 I mean, it was it was definitely one of the hardest things that's happened, you know, in my life,
51:35 athletically, just going through going through that. But I knew and I had a piece about it that it
51:42 was going to be it was all going to be okay. And it would be used for God's glory somehow.
51:48 So Brody, with that in mind, what was the prognosis immediately because you destroyed everything.
51:53 You essentially didn't have a functioning leg at that point. Did the doctors basically say,
51:57 hey, man, we can piece you back together, but you're never going to do this whole gymnast thing
52:02 again. Like what was the immediate prognosis? Yeah, so I mean, when I got to the hospital in
52:07 Germany, it was a lot of I mean, I got X-rays CT scan, you know, all all of that stuff. But
52:15 the number one thing was, you know, getting back home to the US. So I had a my first surgery in
52:22 Germany, they didn't fix anything wrong with my knee. They just put an external fixator on. So they
52:27 put two rods in my shin bone, two rods in my femur, and they were sticking out of my leg.
52:33 And they were all connected by metal. So it was basically just to lock my leg in place so that
52:38 I could travel home. But once I got home, that was when we kind of figured out a little bit more
52:45 about what had happened. I had my first surgery where they fixed my meniscus, my tibial plateau
52:53 fracture, and there were some cartilage damage. So they did what's called a microfracture procedure,
52:58 where they drill a bunch of holes in your cartilage to try to stimulate growth. But other than that,
53:04 we didn't really know what ligaments were torn or messed up because I couldn't get an MRI because
53:12 of the swelling. So they basically just went in and fix that stuff and was like, okay, we'll wait
53:17 until the swelling goes down to get an MRI to see exactly what's wrong with the other side of your
53:22 knee, basically. So, I mean, there was a, there was a period there where I didn't really know,
53:29 we didn't know the extent of the injury, didn't know what was torn. So I didn't know
53:33 what my recovery process was going to look like, or, and whether or not I would be able to make it
53:38 back in time to go to the Olympics. So that, that week was definitely stressful. But I just,
53:46 I tried to take it as it came, you know. So once we figured that out, or once we got the MRI,
53:53 we figured out everything else that was done. And we got a little bit more detailed timeline of
53:59 what it would take to come back. And, you know, when I would have my, I had three surgeries total.
54:07 So I had another reconstructive surgery and it was June 14th of last year. So we, we got all
54:14 that figured out. And then at that point, it was just about all right, we've got to do as much as
54:19 we can with, with what we've got. And while also not, you know, hindering the leg in any way,
54:25 hindering the recovery. So there was a lot that went into it. And it was, it was quite the journey,
54:31 for sure. But a lot of it is just, I mean, again, like I said, I felt that peace knowing that God
54:37 was going to use it for something. So I had that, it was, at that point, it was about, you know,
54:44 being willing to, willing and able to put in the work to get back to where I knew I needed to be.
54:50 So you certainly put in the work, obviously, if you looked at the episode artwork for this episode,
54:54 or if you paid attention to anything in sports in the last year or so, you kind of know where
54:58 this ends up and we're going to get there. But I want to know what was it like in your first
55:02 competition back? Okay, because like where you're like, okay, I feel good, like, you know, you're
55:08 never going to feel the same, but you feel good. But now we're competing again. And you know what,
55:12 actually, let's make it even more specific. Your first high bar routine, where you have to jump
55:17 off this preposterously high bar and land preposterously hard on the ground, what was going through
55:24 your head at that moment? First high bar routine back was a lot later than my first competition back.
55:34 So I'll backtrack a little bit to the first competition back, if that's okay. My first
55:40 competition back was, I believe it was in, it's either January, February of this year. And at this
55:48 point, I still could barely do landings. So I basically, I did pommel horse P-bars and rings.
55:57 I did a P-bar routine with just a back tuck dismount super, super easy. I didn't do any
56:03 dismount on my rings routine. I literally just lowered down and hopped down. So it was more just
56:09 about getting out there and, you know, getting a competition, feeling the competition nerves again.
56:14 That was, for me, that was a pivotal moment in this journey because it was like, okay,
56:22 because I mean, of course, when you're going through this stuff, you're like, you always have
56:27 those thoughts in your head, like, am I really going to be able to do it? Am I actually going
56:31 to be able to come back and make this happen? And then when I had that first competition,
56:38 I mean, not going to lie, I cried a little bit. I mean, I shaded here. I was so happy.
56:43 I was so happy. I remember my first event was P-bars and after my P-bar routine,
56:49 I hit a good one. I went up to my physical therapist who was with us there and I just hugged his neck.
56:55 We were both crying. I just told him, thank you so much. It was, it was really, it was a really
57:01 emotional, great, great day. But yeah, so after that, it was kind of just like slowly progressing
57:10 back to being able to do, you know, full dismounts and all that. And Florin Ball was a big one. But
57:19 yeah, my first high-bar routine back was USA championships. And that one was a really good one.
57:26 So we started, where do we start? And I'm getting my events messed up. We ended on
57:32 high bar first day of USA championship. So it was the last event. And it was, it ended up being a
57:39 really good routine. I had a great set. I stuck my dismount. And I'm not usually one to celebrate.
57:47 I don't know if anyone out there has watched me and my competitions, I'm pretty, I like to be
57:52 pretty stoic, not show a lot of emotion. But I mean, it was last event. I stuck my dismount.
57:57 I hit a really good high bar routine and I just let it loose. I was the first one back and I just,
58:04 I felt like I killed it and it was, oh, that was so awesome. I was just going around hugging everyone.
58:10 Like all my coaches, my teammates, our trainers, like just because so much had gone into
58:19 that one routine from, I mean, the last high bar routine I had done was in March over, it was
58:25 over a year. And to come back and be able to do that, that was like, I'm getting kind of emotional
58:32 talking about it right now. It was, it was phenomenal. But yeah, the mental approach behind it is just,
58:40 like I, after my injury, I tried to make it a point once I got back to high bar to not,
58:48 not let the injury scare me because it was a flu accident. I mean, that's kind of stuff doesn't
58:54 happen every day. And I mean, it was a fluke. So I just tried to treat it as, you know, it's a
58:59 fluke and I don't need to be scared of it happening again because I mean, that's the only time that's
59:03 ever happened to me in my career. Like, why should I be scared of it? So I mean, I'm not saying that
59:08 I wasn't scared of it the first couple of times, but I mean, you just gotta, I mean, when you're
59:13 an elite athlete, you have to be able to put yourself in the mindset of like, I got this, I know what
59:19 I'm doing. And you just got to be able to trust yourself. So there was a lot of that that went into
59:22 it as well. Well, I appreciate getting into all that detail. And obviously you made the 2024
59:28 Paris Olympics. You know, you made it all the way back. You just gritted your way all the way through
59:33 with, with help, of course. And so we get to the 24 2024 Olympics. Just real good. Did you see the
59:39 opening ceremonies? Because I know everybody was talking about it, but weren't y'all like already,
59:43 like getting ready to compete and all that we're all even there? Yeah, we didn't go to open ceremonies.
59:49 So our first day of competition is always the next day after opening ceremonies. So we usually
59:56 opt to stay in our hotel and get recovery and prepare for next day. No reason to get a boat and
1:00:01 get rain going. And all that in the middle of the dirty Paris River, whatever the crap that they
1:00:06 had going on there. But so so we get there. You're at the 2024 Olympics. And I don't really know what
1:00:12 the expectations were for you guys going in. But at this point, the US men's team hadn't won a team
1:00:16 medal in since 2008. So it had been a been a long time. But my understanding is is that y'all kind
1:00:23 of sucked it up during qualifications. Right. I know that's that's kind of being like not so
1:00:27 generous. But none of y'all seem to compete the way that you wanted to during the qualifications. So
1:00:33 whenever you're going into the final rounds of everything, I mean, were y'all optimistic,
1:00:39 pessimistic, because I mean, at the end of the day, you guys did find a way to winning the bronze
1:00:45 medal. And it was just this incredible team performance that ended with, you know, the pommel horse
1:00:50 guy. I can't pronounce his last name, but Stephen, the pommel horse guy. And everybody kind of
1:00:55 recognized him and him going viral for only being the pommel horse guy and all that kind of stuff. But
1:00:58 like, what was it like going into that final round? And then how did you guys end up being able to put
1:01:03 it together to where you could go home with some hardware? Yeah. I mean, yeah, definitely the first
1:01:08 day of competition was not good. That's probably the worst competition that I personally have ever
1:01:13 had. I mean, there were definitely highlights for the other guys. But I mean, first day and we knew
1:01:21 this going into it. I mean, we're all going to be nervous. It was all I was the only one who had
1:01:27 been a previous Olympian. And Tokyo Olympics were way different than Paris. So I still feel like
1:01:33 Paris was my first real Olympics. But yeah, I mean, we knew going into it. We came in with the
1:01:40 expectation that there were going to be mistakes. There was going to be a lot of nerves coming into
1:01:44 play. So we really just used the first day to get the nerves out, understand what it's like to
1:01:50 compete in that arena. And just we kind of went in with that approach. And you know, for me, especially,
1:01:59 it was it was not a very good day. Like I said, worst competition in my life. So it was a pretty
1:02:07 uncharacteristic performance. And I was very unhappy with it. So I kind of used that we had
1:02:13 a day in between competitions. I use that day to kind of reset. Went back into the gym,
1:02:18 reset some of my basics, my gymnastics foundation, which some things around tweak some things. And
1:02:27 so that I could do what I needed to do for the team for team finals. But I'll say go and hit
1:02:31 the team finals. We were all very I would say we were very optimistic for sure. This was the first
1:02:38 time that we first time in a while that we truly felt that we would be able to come home with a
1:02:45 medal. So just a little bit of background in the Tokyo Olympics, Russia was still competing. So
1:02:50 the top three men's gymnastics, gymnastics countries are China, Russia, Japan. And they are just on
1:02:57 another level. And kind of in Tokyo, I mean, I hate to say it, but we kind of knew we weren't
1:03:03 in metal contention, just because those three countries were so, so good. We would have needed
1:03:09 them to mess up a lot to have a chance at the metal. But going into this one, it's a completely
1:03:14 different mindset because you know that you can come home with the metal because Russia wasn't there.
1:03:19 So it was between, I would say, Great Britain, Ukraine had a really strong team and then us.
1:03:26 So we knew going into it that we had a chance. And I mean, obviously that adds extra nerves.
1:03:32 But our frame, our mindset going into it was treated just like an NCAA championships.
1:03:40 Because I think the cool thing about our team at the Olympics is we had all been through NCAA
1:03:47 programs and we'd all competed at NCAA championships. And it's really different competing for a team.
1:03:57 And that's why NCAA teaches you. So like gymnastics, when you're growing up, is a pretty individual
1:04:02 sport. You're pretty much only doing it for yourself. But when you go to college, it's a team.
1:04:08 It's not just individual anymore. So going through that really teaches you how to
1:04:15 work for a team and how to perform and compete well for a team.
1:04:20 So that was our mindset. We're like, OK, let's treat it just like an NCAA championship.
1:04:24 Let's go in there. Let's hit this. Let's do these routines for one another. Let's do it for our
1:04:29 country and just have fun with it and see what happens. And we ended up going 18 for 18 routines,
1:04:38 which never happens. That hardly ever happens. We had 100% hit rate. And that was the most fun
1:04:48 competition that I've ever been a part of, hands down. Because just the way the crowd got involved
1:04:55 with us, the way we were feeding off of each other's energy, it was crazy. I don't know how much
1:05:02 of the in-between time they showed on TV, but between every event as we were rotating,
1:05:08 the whole crowd was cheering team USA. And I just remember looking at the guys, I'm like,
1:05:14 Oh my gosh, we're in Europe right now. We're not even in the US. And it's like literally everyone
1:05:20 in there is cheering for us. It was incredible. So that kind of helped us hone in and perform
1:05:28 better, honestly. And we were just we were feeding off of each other's energy. We were just hitting
1:05:32 routine after routine after routine after routine. And I mean, it all came down to pommel horse.
1:05:38 And Paul Judah was up first. I was up second after I hit my routine. I was like,
1:05:44 it's over. Steve's got this because Steve, Steven literally only does pommel horse. And he's phenomenal
1:05:51 at it. So I knew we had gone 17 for 17 at that point. And like I said, I don't normally go
1:05:58 crazy at competitions. I like to keep it pretty cool. I went wild after my routine.
1:06:03 Crazy, y'all went nuts. Yeah. And yeah. And then so watching Steven go up and just just slam
1:06:09 that routine and come off. I mean, I couldn't help myself. I mean, we were going crazy. I think at
1:06:15 one point I picked Steven up and I was like, jumping up and down with him. So yeah, I mean,
1:06:21 it was a it's it's like one of those things you read stories about, you know, you know, all the
1:06:27 stars align and everyone hits their routines perfectly and it ends up working out. So I mean,
1:06:34 to be a part of that was just incredible. And I mean, just thinking back at it, I can't help
1:06:41 a smile at, you know, what we did. It was it was pretty, pretty awesome.
1:06:46 Well, it's a tremendous accomplishment. You could definitely tell that there was a true
1:06:50 camaraderie between you guys because when you watch the elite teams like Japan, Russia and China,
1:06:54 it looks like it looks like coworkers, right? So they're all kind of coworkers and they're kind
1:06:58 of doing this thing. And they're just hoping, you know, if they're the Russians that if they
1:07:01 fall off the pommel horse that they don't end up getting black bagged and sent to Siberia or
1:07:05 something like that. And so you don't have to respond to that. That was my comment, not yours.
1:07:09 But we're running out of time here. So we'll have to make this the last question of the day.
1:07:13 I appreciate all this detail. But the obvious question for any Olympian is, okay, so what's next?
1:07:18 Are we doing 2028 in Los Angeles? It'll be here technically in your own backyard because you're
1:07:23 technically a Californian sort of now, even though you're a Georgian, all the same things.
1:07:27 But you know, what does the future look like for you? What are you going to be doing?
1:07:30 Yeah, so to be honest with you, I haven't decided if I'm going to continue or not.
1:07:35 Well, no, listen, just tell me just to just kind of just tell me what your plans are. No one else
1:07:40 is paying attention. Come on. My plan right now, my number one priority is getting married. I get
1:07:44 married in May. So right now I'm taking some time away from Jim, you know, that some other
1:07:51 things is my priorities for right now. So right now is getting married and, you know,
1:07:55 being there for that and being there for my fiance and my soon-to-be wife.
1:08:00 And we'll see what the Lord has in plan. I've had a few interesting opportunities come up.
1:08:07 Don't know what they will lead to. But I mean, gymnastics is always something that
1:08:11 I mean, I'm not going to count it out of the picture for sure. So we'll see. But definitely,
1:08:17 for right now, take some time away from it, you know, rest or cooperate. Just let my mind
1:08:22 relax a little bit and we'll see what happens. Okay, very good. Well, I appreciate you letting
1:08:27 us weave in and out of a lot of details on all this stuff, Brody. But that's all for me. Is there
1:08:31 anything else you want to get off your chest? I think I'm good. We covered a lot of stuff.
1:08:36 Yeah, we covered a lot of ground. And the only thing you and I have left to do is we have to
1:08:41 shoot some birds at some point at the same place. So we've got to make sure we get that on the calendar.
1:08:46 All right, Brody, we'll talk again soon. Yes, sir. Sounds good. Thank you.
1:08:49 There you go, guys. I hope you enjoyed my time with Brody. But before we let you go,
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In this episode, we welcome Brody Malone to the show. He is an Olympic gymnast that represented the United States at the 2020 and 2024 Olympic Games. He led his team to a bronze medal at the 2024 Summer Olympics in Paris. In this interview, we discuss how he got his start in gymnastics, how losing his mother to cancer at an early age helped him understand resilience and reliance on God, how he went from being a good gymnast to an elite gymnast, the culture shock of moving from rural Georgia to California to attend Stanford, the difference between the Olympic tracks for male gymnasts versus female gymnasts, what makes Simone Biles so good, what it was like making his first Olympic team, why he was happy that the 2020 Tokyo Olympics was postponed, the leg injury that should have ended his career, how he was able to work his way back into being an elite gymnast post-injury, the bumpy path to the team bronze medal in the 2024 Paris Olympics, whether or not he will pursue competing in the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles, and much more. Let’s get into it…

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