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And then he's on the new Angel series called Homestead. So last year I talked with Neil Mcdana and Ben Small Bone. So they are both involved with that project. And so we've had a lot of Angel people on this podcast before and that's an awesome new show that they have. So you guys are experiencing season 1 or if you haven't gone there yet, you've got the movie there at the beginning and then the rest of season 1. But as of the filming of this podcast, it was the day after the Super Bowl and the day he was flying out to Utah to start a threemon shoot for season two of the show. And so I really enjoyed talking to him. He and I hit it off off air. You know, he's a two-stripe white belt in jiu-jitsu. So he's got, you know, the the blue belt blues uh in his very very near future. But for him, this is a guy he grew up without his father. And you know, we talked a little a lot about that right at the beginning. You know, it even got a little bit emotional there at the beginning about, hey, you were always drawn to acting as a boy. How does that attach to, you know, you not having your father? Because if you know anyone or if you were a guy who never had your father around, in a lot of ways, you're acting you're acting like things are okay. You're acting like this is normal and feels fine. Oh, it's just fine having a single mom and that's the only real person in your life of any value. Like I mean it was it was tough for him and it's tough for a lot of you guys out there. So we talk about that and then he eventually goes on to play football at Duke on a scholarship and then you know we talk about his transition to Hollywood getting into acting. How do you even break into acting? what is kind of the trick to doing all of that. But then eventually he kind of had this, you know, around the co time, it's like he had kind of seen that LA and Hollywood and Hollywood Hills kind of got on him a little bit, right? And he needed to break out of that. he had lost his faith and we we spent a lot of time talking about his personal faith, you know, kind of growing up doing FCA, doing some youth group stuff, but then now that he's moved back to the east coast in more of family environment going going to church and as he talks about it, he's rediscovered his faith and, you know, it's kind of put his his faith and his direct disciplehip under Jesus. And how does that work as an actor? Because you're lying for a living. you know, early in his career, he had to do some things that young, you know, handsome actors had to do in order to keep getting work. How's he getting work now? But then we we talk about a lot of the different roles. We talk about what he's doing now with Homestead. And then at the end, I asked him some questions like, "Hey, if you had to delete, you know, every single thing you've ever done as an actor. What's that one scene that you would want or that one part? Hey, is there a part that, you know, gosh, you were almost there?" And guys, one of your favorite shows, more than likely, he almost had everyone's favorite part, right? He was that close. he was number two. So, you have to listen to get that. That's towards the end as well. But even asking him like, "Hey, if if you could have been in any movie ever, what's the part that you would want to be in or any TV show ever, what's that part that you would have wanted?" But really really enjoyed talking to him. Uh I think he's a fantastic guy, great great actor. So, without further ado, let's get into it. Bailey Chase, welcome to Undone Life of Man's podcast. >> Thank you, Kyle. Thank you. >> I'm excited to talk to you. We we kind of hit it off off air because here you are. You're looking at some snow totals and I've got like this looming ski trip that I'm hoping I don't get hurt on. And so we'll talk about why you're looking at snow totals right now. But I guess where we need to start is when you popped up on the screen, I think a lot of people are going to recognize your face from a myriad of different things because you do uh you professionally lie for a living, right? You are an actor. You pretend to be things that you are not and you are fantastic at it. But apparently Yeah. Apparently this was like a boyhood dream for you. Okay. So some guys, you know, they want to be an army man, they want to be a, you know, pro baseball player, whatever. But this is always something that you felt like was kind of in there. So let's just start there. >> Yeah. Yeah. Let's let's dive in. Um yeah, you know, raised by a single mom, my my brother and I were pretty unruly. Um we we pushed the envelope a little bit uh growing up, but um the one thing that uh that was very consistent was we'd ride our bike, you know, cuz back in the day you rode your bikes to school and we'd get home and mama would be at work and we'd have a couple hours before, you know, football practice, baseball practice, whatever. And I'd sit down with like a 2 L thing of soda. I mean, it was like the most unhealthy thing in a bag of chips and get a couple hours of TV in and it was always these Clint Eastwood movies. Um, you know, so I had like Turner, whatever was either that or like a Cubs game. And, uh, and so I, you know, without really knowing what I was doing, I adopted Clint Eastwood, uh, Josie Wales is my boyhood idol. You know, when I grow up, I want to be like this guy, you know. So, uh, it just kind of happened and then, you know, whatever. Long story short, played college football. NFL didn't come calling. Um, that was a great game last night and uh and then I just pivoted back to my boyhood dream of of being an actor. >> Well, let's kind of go back to because I remember sitting there with my dad. We'd be watching television and it was kind of the same thing. It was either a ball game or it was an old western. And it's funny because my favorite of all those old westerns, I know people love, you know, Unforgiven and you know, uh, what is it? The good, the bad, and the ugly and all that. I love the outlaw Josie Wells. Maybe because it's um Simpleton, but just the Gatlin gun. I was like I just remembered that from like being a little kid. I'm like that is like the coolest thing in the world. I was like trying to ask my dad like so it just never runs out of ammunition. You just keep cranking the thing and shooting the bad guys and he's trying to explain it in a way that a little kid can get it. But like for you as an actor like I don't know what it is about westerns to be honest. I've thought about it a lot because Shane is probably my favorite written western. I love the outlaw Josie Wells. I love kind of new age westerns. No Country for Old Men. uh Hell or High Water, you know, Wind River, those th those kinds of films. What do you think it is about a little boy or even as adults that's just kind of drawn to that, you know, stranger coming to town or just being on horseback in the the mountains of Montana or something like that? >> Yeah. No, I mean, you know, those those are heroes growing up, right? You know, we we had professional athletes, you know, for for me. Um, and then, you know, obviously our our war heroes, but you know, the guys the guys uh who are portraying them up there on screen, you know, the John Waynees of the world, the Clint Eastwoods. Um, and yeah, so sounds like you had a different, you know, experience growing up, you know, with your dad being around. But I just um you know like we're all innately good you know and I just wanted I wanted you know to I I felt you know I don't know kind of rejected you know dad left or whatever. So you're compensating you're trying to fill that hole and it's like you know I'm I'm going to go out and do good in the world. I'm going to be like this guy and whether you know like you know Clint Eastwood wasn't your traditional you know John Wayne was kind of you know right before our time. So, it's like we're more clean with guys and it's like, you know, if you got to if you got to get a little dirty, you know, as long as you're doing the right thing, you know, that's that's okay. And that's, you know, that's how I've lived my life. And I gravitate towards those kind of characters now. And I get to do that, you know, with with Jeff Ericson on on Homestead. Um, and we don't have the Gatlons, but we we got the belt feds. So, those are those are those are that's a fun day on set. >> I mean, I'm just saying you're about to film season two Homestead. We're going to get to that, but there's got to be a shed somewhere on that guy's land that, you know, it's just some there's a Gatlin gun just sitting there ready to go. Bellfeds are cool, right? Grenades are awesome, but I mean, there's got to be something for that. Now, at the risk of maybe going too serious too fast, I'm just trying to like draw some connections here. So, obviously, you've talked about, you know, growing up in a single mother household, not having your father, you know, feeling like you need to prove yourself. So, I know from being around a lot of kids, I grew up with a lot of kids that didn't have their dads and all of that. And it was like they were always pretending. So, they were always kind of pretending things are okay. Uh, no, everything's just fine with with just mom and all those types of things. And so, here you are. You're you're to a degree just to make it through, you have to kind of, you know, grin through the pain or, you know, grin and bear it. >> And then now you professionally pretend, and I don't mean that dissipatively. I mean that just literally like that. that's the job. Is there a connection there with, you know, feeling like, hey, dad's not there. There's escaping hole and you don't have anything to compare it to because it sounds like he never was there. And so now we're pretending for a living. Am I drawing a connection that's not there? >> Yeah. No, that's that's uh that's pretty spot on actually. And it's um even emotional just just to, you know, think about it a little bit. But yeah, and I don't want to paint him out to be, you know, a bad guy. The marriage didn't work out. He did the best he could. You know, he's he's in my life. He he loves his grandkids. you know, I I I give him that. Um, and he loves me. It's just, you know, it's uh complicated. Uh, but for me, so my brother's the same way and we we're there for everything. You know, he's he goes to every, you know, baseball game. His son's a little bit older. He's a teenager. Mine's nine. My twins are nine. And then I got an 11-year-old. So, two girls and a boy. And, um, you know, I'm I'm that dad who tries to make every game, every practice, school, pickup, drop offs. And I I started packing for Utah because it's, you know, I'm going to be out there about three months. So, this is a long, you know, they're coming right in the middle, but this is the longest that I'll have been away from them. And, um, it's, let's just say it's been an emotional, you know, 24 hours and and I'm I'm still not on the plane yet, um, which is later today. But, um, you know, you just want to be there and my kids understand, you know, dad's going to work and this is what he does. Uh but normally, you know, it's a few weeks, not a few months. Um and so it's interesting. I was just uh I just got out of I can see my you know, so I just got out of sauna, so I'm bright red. I'm going go on a tangent here. And I was scrolling through through through some reals and you know, the AI's got me figured out pretty well. Yeah. >> And Kobe Kobe Bryant came up and he's talking to Stephen A. Smith. You know, God is great. You know, God is great. and he repeats it and he d you know triples down says it four times and then you know um he's like you you know and Stephen A's you know kind of proddding him the way that you know he does to people and um he's like you know when he carries the cross for you that you can't carry yourself and so that's what I'm praying for when I leave today for for three months that uh he helps me carry this cross Sorry. >> No, that's >> interesting day. Interesting day that we get to meet Kyle. >> Hey. Hey. You You and I are on the same page. I'm typically like I'm a I'm a fire brand, but I'm not emotional about everything. But you get me talking about my kids or you get me talking really about anyone's kids. Like I've got some really good friends and I look at because I have two boys and they've got daughters and I've just, you know, that dark place in my brain where I'm like, man, if I ever see a wolf coming after one of those girls, I will peel that person's skin off and wear it around the neighborhood. You know what I mean? Like it's just you you that that feeling you get that that protective mechanism. And so for you when you do have to be gone as a virtue cuz we're the same. Like I want to be like I will inconvenience the planet to make my son's 5-year-old basketball practice where there's not a whole lot of basketball happening. It's more break dancing and ninja kicks. But basketball happens every now and then. Like I will do that because I want to set that precedent because that was the precedent my father set for me. But when you leave, do you feel like you in a way you're abandoning your kids and making them feel what you felt when you were a kid? Is that where the emotion comes from? Yeah. Yeah. And uh that's exactly what it is. And you know, not not being able to to be there, you know, you only get you only get so many games and practices and even, you know, and it is so fun at that age. Yeah. It's just that, you know, that little mob that follows the ball around. There's there's no spacing. >> Yeah. >> And they're very lowcoring games at this point. Um but you know um you know then next year he's 10 and then he's 12 and then he's a teenager and he's got a phone and a car and then it's kind of over. You know that that chapter is over anyway. >> Um and uh and I know it's going to be different cuz I'm already seeing that in my niece and nephew. Um and uh yeah, that's that's exactly what it is. And and um yeah, I guess you know that's a cross I feel like I can't carry on my own. So, I'm just asking for help on this one. >> Well, Bailey, that's the delicate balance that all of us as providers and protectors have to do. Sometimes in order to protect and provide, you can't do that locally, right? And so, if you look at tribal times, it's like, look, you had to go where the mammoth were, right? You had to go where the the white tail was, you know, like, and then you had to kill them and drag them back and like, you know, that was the thing. Like, dad had to leave in order to be there, right? Like, it's it's a weird thing. Like sometimes that's what has happened which is obviously not licensed to men who are taking the extra trip going to the extra conference and all that just because they resent their family. Maybe they don't like their wife. Maybe the kids are annoying and then they're oh they just want to be gone because they want to provide but at the same time they're not providing emotionally uh while they're sitting there trying to you know stack up as many as many Benjamins as possible. But to kind of get back to just even your career in general with acting, I'm just curious because, you know, there's the outside perception of someone that's never lived in Hollywood and has watched a lot of television or movies about like, okay, this is what the career is and this is how easy or hard it is to break in. But then you hear these hard luck stories about, you know, the kid from Nowhere'sville, Iowa that moves out to LA and they're going to get that job as a bartender because hopefully a producer walks in and notices that they've got blue eyes and a square jaw and and they would be perfect for the next whatever film that's going on out in that area. But just kind of give us a peak behind the curtain a little bit. How difficult is it to really get started and then also to not just flame out and burn out super quick, but to actually make it a career? >> Yeah, it's uh it's a great question. Happy um you know to share my journey um which I don't think was all that unique, but but yeah, I went out there with a dollar a dream, you know, graduated from from Duke. I was able to play football there. you know, kind of, you know, NFL was never really in my future, but um you know, you you always think you're you got a shot, like you know, it was like until they tell you Bailey, it's over. Um and uh and but about halfway through college, I I started to think about that boyhood dream. And so I was ready. I got offered to, you know, stay a fifth year and get a you know, graduate degree, but I I I knew what I wanted to do. So graduated in four years, went out there and got a job waiting tables. And um I was a psychology um major in school because again it goes back to being that detective and trying to you know figure stuff out. And that that was interesting to me you know history was like oh yeah okay that's you know but psychology is like oh I can actually get some answers here. I can actually you know go figure this thing out. Um, and then acting was the total opposite of playing college football where you're, you know, strapping on all the pads and the helmets and, you know, getting, you know, as big and strong as you can. And then you got to go out there and and just surrender and open up and be like, "Here I am." and and start to deal with a lot of, you know, rejection for. So, you know, for for people who are, you know, high accomplishing, you know, athletes and, you know, our soldiers and things like that who go out and do d do now all of a sudden like you got to go 180 degrees. And so that was like a really cool challenge for me um to it was the ultimate challenge to to go out there and and surrender. Pardon. Um, yeah. I mean, I don't think there's any really like magic formula. Um, you just keep putting the work in and um, fortunately I had strong work ethic and I'm very stubborn and I just kind of I just kind of kept going, you know. Um, yeah. >> So, for you, what what is the work? Because, yeah, the bartender, the the waiting tables and all that, but what is the work that you're needing to put in to do that? Cuz I don't want to do the whole, hey, if my son wants to be an actor, what should he do? because it's a different path for everybody, right? That everybody doesn't come through from, you know, delivering sweet tea and and a burger to a table. But what is the work? >> Yeah. Uh the the work of becoming an actor is that Yeah. Is that >> Yeah. Ultimately, the the work of becoming an actor that gets, you know, paid for their trouble. it um you know I've always been a truth seeker you know I even wrote a book about it a while ago you know right after becoming a dad and you know my heart was wide open and obviously you know emotional guy and um I just uh I'm a truth seeker and I I can't say that for for everyone but I feel like there are certain actors out there in the world like a Tom Hardy um big fan of DiCaprio Denzel like these are guys who are non nonsense they show up. They do the work. Um, and it's very authentic. It's it's so I I've I've got this thing called Avar. I got it from Jeff Kirkham, if you know who that is, but you know, retired special forces, amazing dude, very accomplished. And now he runs these retreats for people, you know, veterans, but also people who are just struggling in life, depression, anxiety, things like that. Avar's uh accountable vulnerable authentic and reciprocal. And so if you have those four things, you know, whether you're in a battlefield, uh you're in an acting scene with Denzel and you're, you know, scared out of your mind, um or if you're just, you know, having a a a nice parenting moment with your young kid. Um if you have those four things and you have that with the other person, I don't think you can you can lose. Um and uh LA can be tricky. I think I lost sight of that um for a while. Um and I know, you know, we'll get here eventually in the conversation. Um but ultimately, you know, there's other, you know, there's one more compon component. Um you know, and then if you add faith to that, um I think that's pretty uh pretty good formula for success. >> Well, I'm going to get to the faith here in a second, but you did bring up something else that I was thinking of because you brought up, you know, a lot a lot of my favorite actors. So, but >> I'm curious when you watch a film or a show there there are times and I don't know how to explain it. You're probably going to be better to explain it than I do. You just don't believe them. You don't believe that they believe that they're the character, but when you watch Training Day, you believe Denzel, right? When you watch uh Peiquey Blinders, you believe that that Tom Hardy is that guy. Very, very small role, but very powerful. I think of Russell Crowe as Maximus and Gladiator. You mentioned Leonardo DiCaprio in the Revenant. Well, Leonard Caprio, you you believe him no matter who he's playing, right? But like, h how does somebody get to that? Because you can't just say, "Oh, well, all those people are they're masters, they're maestros, they're, you know, they're they're method actors and so they just believe it because they live it." You know, you hear about how Heath Ledger approached the Joker, how he was the Joker on and off screen, how he was preparing for the role by almost torturing himself to get to this place to, you know, how could you be this, you know pathological psychological maniac, right? that that that was able to kind of do all these things. >> How does someone that wants to do this for a living even tap into that or is is that just where hey, you know, script meets actor meets special moment and boom, it happens. >> Yeah. Uh I think I think there's something to that. Um but for, you know, the other guys that we're describing because they're able to repeat it over and over in different, you know, genres and characters, so they're not one and done. um you know like some you know TV guy from 10 years ago who kind of just you know you see him again and again again so I'm not going to name those names um but I I think it goes back to if you're a truth seeker and you're always driving for that thing and you don't stop until you get there get there get there and then you know and then it's there's that moment where you have to surrender over to the process and and just be you just be that character and be in those circumstances and That's, you know, I think that's that visceral feeling that you're alluding to, that resonance that comes through the screen with people who are able to do that. Now, I've tried all different kinds of, you know, Stannislovski, Meisner, these other acting techniques that a lot of people probably never heard of, and that's fine. They don't need to. Um, I went to London, I did Shakespeare because I felt like a bit of a fraud. But then once I experienced that and did that, I was like, "Oh, okay." Hey, you know, I'm not very good at that, but at least I have an idea and it's part of my repertoire and hopefully, you know, makes me a better actor, you know, somewhere down the line. Um, and and so I I've kept what works from all of those different things and then you throw out, you know, you throw out what doesn't work and, you know, and I don't think this is specific to acting, you know, it's it's true in life. Um, and then, you know, like we said earlier, you got to keep showing up, you know, uh, Jim Carrey said, "You know, I didn't write myself a $10 million check and then go eat a sandwich." Like, you keep showing up and doing the work every day. You know, you're talking about getting your your black belt in jiu-jitsu. I'm a you know, >> two stripe white belt, so I'm far far away. But I know I know what it's there, man. >> I mean, you know, I' I've actually taken a year off, but I'm getting back into it. I've got a guy out in Utah who's amazing. His name's Charlie Man. So, I'm going to start I'm I'm going to be back on the mat next week. Uh suffering. Um but I'm actually in a strange way looking looking forward to it. But um yeah, you know, so so you you know, you suffer in jiu-jitsu, you you suffer in life, you suffer, you know, in in any any work, any endeavor that matters. And and acting is certainly, you know, it applies. Well, I mean, if y'all need uh an extra that looks like a bearded, angry ginger that could also roll around a little bit or whatever, like, hey, we we have planes that fly from Oklahoma to Utah, we could figure that one out. But actually, I do I need to have like a little quick aside before we get to the face stuff because I need you to settle a bet or it's not even a bet. It's it's a debate. There is a longunning debate that I have with uh there's a coaching program I have called Dominion and the alumni program is called Watchmen. And so I mentioned Maximus, you know, Russell Crow, Gladiator earlier, but there's a running gun battle happening right now that you are going to settle once and for all. And it's what is the better movie, Gladiator or Braveheart? And before you pick, before you pick, I'm not even going to give you a pitch because you probably can guess which one's mine because of who I mentioned and all the different things. But I believe that Mel Gibson believed he was William Wallace. That's why Braveheart is a classic. But this debate is causing me to not like one of the movies because I'm so fervently defending the other one. But I want to get your pick and your defense, not just the pick, but the defense of which is the superior movie. No, you cannot say it's a tie. Which one's the better movie? >> Gladiator. >> I'm a I'm a Gladiator guy. I'm Yeah, you know, Strength and Honor. Uh I just they nailed it. No disrespect to Braveheart. It is way up there. Uh I love my freedom too. Um and uh Yeah. Yeah. And you know I saw it again not too long ago and she you know she dies pretty early on. You know she has such a powerful role and effect on the whole story and >> you know that's what made him you know who he became. Um, but yeah, I wanted I wanted to see more of her, too. Um, anyway. Yeah. >> Okay. Well, I certainly appreciate that that you basically said I'm right and you have validated my entire existence up to this point. All 39 years uh have culminated in this moment. But I will say this, look, Braveheart, it's a top 10 movie. I can hear an argument that it's on the Mount Rushmore of films, but there can only be one number one, baby. Give me Gladiator all day long. But we do need to go ahead and get into your faith element because that's one thing >> that you don't hear a lot about working actors in Hollywood because there's at least this perception if not a reality that if you are a capital C conservative politically and if you're an actual Christian not like a Christian that like oh I believe in God and you know God's my homeboy and you know Jesus is cool too you know when he's you know being cool and wispyhaired and and softfeatured and you know not like getting angry and flipping over tables. We don't like that Jesus. But it seems like there's not a whole lot of guys that have a a a personal faith doing this job. And if they are doing this job and do have a personal faith, they're kind of pushed out to the outskirts where they're doing maybe pure flick type films that you know, they're fun for the whole family, but maybe not great when you rewatch them or something like that. Not throwing too much shade, but just just trying to describe reality here. But for you, let's even go back to where your faith journey began. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay, great. Um yeah, you know, I had a lot of um questions for for God when I was I was young and um you know, some some anger uh about, you know, how uh my life had had played out up until that point. I got in a lot of fights as a kid. Um had, you know, some some problems that way. Got shipped off to to a boarding school. Um definitely one of the best things that ever happened to me. Uh my my roommate at the time at this boarding school was Chipper Jones, who, you know, pretty good baseball player. >> Yeah, let's go. Yeah, go Braves. Um, but also he was u he was a very positive influence. We're very, you know, competitive with each other. You know, he wasn't partying. He's very focused on on the sports. And um we got into FCA together. And uh I didn't know that it was all going to come full circle eventually because, you know, I I lost the path for a while. But that was very important because I wasn't really raised religious. I did go to a youth group. um you know for a couple years growing up at at a Episcopalian church. So sort of raised Protestant that way. Um but um yeah, you know, I I I was really introduced to the Bible for the first time in high school in uh in FCA and then we would always, you know, pray before our games and you know, high school football was a big deal down there. Um and uh and then you know uh all the way through through Duke you know football you know more praying more just being in that structured environment which was more contained and healthy. Uh but once I got out to LA you know it was this whole new world and you know doing yoga and reading Deepo Chopra I was like oh that's interesting what is you know Buddhism what is all this spirituality everybody you know you know it's all love and and so you know I was out there for 20 years um and uh I you know I just lost touch with my faith and and God and I wouldn't say I was in a bad place, you know, I met my wife and got married, became a dad, but it wasn't really four years ago, we moved back to the mountains of North Carolina, co all that stuff. Um, no school, no sports, no life out there with our young kids who were bouncing off the walls. Um, and then the the final straw was they were talking about the kids coming back to school, but they were mandating the the vaccine. And at that time, you know, they're four, four, and six years old. I got two young girls and you know we don't need to go down that rabbit hole u or we can but I was like no I just don't know enough and I you know I got one job right now and it's to take care of these you know little nuggets that's that's the most important job I have right now and um we weren't planning on it but we came to visit my in-laws um you know outside of Asheville and uh and we ended up staying and we bought a house and we've been here four years and um and long story short that you know, I started going to church with uh with my cousin who uh took me about a year to say yes. And my wife doesn't, you know, join us all the time, but my daughters love the youth group and um my son, you know, he'll he'll get there. Um but yeah, again, I feel like everything's come full circle and had I not had, you know, FCA way back when in high school and I went to FCA event here at our local high school across the street. Um, and that was really touching for me to see, you know, these these kids, these teenagers embracing God and praying and, you know, singing. Um, and really great and and also, uh, you know, watching the Super Bowl last night and and seeing all these guys from Seattle, you know, give give thanks to God. It's, uh, it's a beautiful thing to see. >> Hey guys, real quick. You've probably heard the phrase, "Ignorance is bliss," right? Well, some of you are ignorant about where the beef that you buy at the grocery store comes from and what it took to get to you. So, that single package of grocery store ground beef can contain meat from over 100 different cows, sometimes from multiple countries. And if one of those cows was sick or mishandled in some way, it's mixed right into your dinner. So, most people don't realize that some ground beef at the store isn't just beef either. 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You start hearing people say things like, "Well, I'm not religious. I'm spiritual." It's like, "Well, demons are spirits, too. Can you be more specific?" And but nobody out there is asking that question, right? It's it's And same thing, I used to live in New York City. I used to I had a a contract job with Major League Baseball way back in the day. And it wasn't the speed of the city that bothered me. It was the darkness. Uh it was just you would run into a Christian in a city of millions and millions of people and be like, "Oh my gosh, I found the other one." And so it's kind of hard to like it's very easy to pursue money and fame and and clicks and followers and subscribers and and all that stuff, but then you lose sight of the stuff that's actually going to matter. And I'm not the first person to point this out, but for you it took you seemingly physically leaving that place, leaving that environment and going to somewhere where the structure was different, where the location was different, the feel was different. And you know, here in America, obviously, it's, you know, you got the the Yankees and you got the the South, like, and it's like, oh, well, we got churches all over the place in the South. But the problem with doing ministry in the South, as I've talked to a lot of pastors, is everyone thinks they're a Christian because they grew up in the South, because they went to youth group as a kid, because they prayed at FCA, but they don't have a saving faith in Jesus, right? They just like all the trappings of of Christianity or or or Christendom, if you will. But talk to me a little bit about the physical nature of going from the east coast, >> going to the left coast to coming back to the east coast because it just felt like that's what was necessary. >> Yeah. Um it it is proximity matters, location matters, and yes, there are uh uh millions of of Christians in California for sure. And there's mega churches out there, but not not where I was. Not in LA, not in Hollywood or the Hollywood Hills or Silver Lake was my little, you know, hood. Um, which was cool. Um, but not a lot of Christians. And it just it just matters. And I, you know, I look, it's all in his time. Um, and it, you know, I guess maybe I wasn't ready yet. Um but he had a plan for me and now it's you know it's unfolding and it's it's great and you know what it is more than it's a big relief. Um whereas out there I don't know I just had the blinders on and like I was focused on all those material things you know more you know fame just got me more more money creative autonomy you know I wanted more control over my life and career and things like that. Um, so, you know, as your kind of like star meter goes up, those things go up as well. Um, but then all of a sudden, you know, being a middle-aged white guy was not, you know, that wasn't the thing to be, uh, because of the the wind change out there. And I was like, "Oh, wow. This is this is really interesting." Um, and that's, you know, but where do we grow? Where do we, you know, where do we change? Where do we come back to the Lord? We do it through struggle. We do it through obstacles. And so, you know, if CO didn't happen, if that, you know, if those if I would have just kept working, then I would have gone right to that next show. And, you know, there was maybe I was going to do like and I stayed on Chicago PD, which was an option back on the time. I mean, I could still be on that show and have never missed a day of work 10 years later. And um, you know, it was uh the last 10 years were were hard. you know how it is with young kids and not being, you know, it's not like I get to work as much as I want to. I still got to go out and get these jobs. And I made some decisions back then, you know, leaving a a successful show um called Longmire and then, you know, kind of getting runner up on on Yellowstone like, you know, that would have changed the trajectory as well, but I wouldn't have got the growth that I got in the last 10 years cuz that that came out of the the struggle and the ashes and me uh fighting fighting to be here right now and and obviously the big man having a a plan for Well, and and also I think that there's an interesting throughpoint here as well. You know, I had Neil Mcdana on the show last year, you know, with with the run-up to his movie and then obviously with with Homestead at the time and hearing something similar from him, but it's like, you know, for him it was this big thing. It's like, I'm not going to kiss another woman on screen. I don't care what what the what the script says. I don't care about any of that. And that had an impact on his career. But I'm just curious for you as I was thinking through what I was going to ask you for the interview is sometimes you have this personal belief or faith system or morality or whatever, but then the script calls for you to do things that are outside of that and that's going to be different for every person because you know we all have different limits or different things that we're called to. But how do you personally square some of the things that you have to do as an actor or choose to do as an actor would be more accurate with your walk as a Christian? And again, early career before you were really thinking about this versus now that's obviously going to be a little different. >> Yeah. Uh it's a great great question and happy to to share it. And you know what I found my role on Homestead. I'm uh one of the more uh seasoned actors on on the show and the younger cast, you know, comes to me and I I I enjoy being in this position and I'm happy to help them. But um you know giving them sound advice and telling them to focus on the important stuff and doing the work and not not the silliness that's that's over here and that stuff doesn't matter or trying to navigate, you know, getting an agent or a better agent or things like that or, you know, cuz there's there's a lot of shady folks out there in Hollywood. Um, and so, you know, I just give him the the the best advice um that uh that I can. But, but yeah, you know, Neil McDonald is awesome. Um, I've known him for a long time. He got married, you know, younger than I did. But, yeah, early in my career, yeah, I you know, I was just trying to fit in. I wanted people to like me. I wanted to be good. And so that's the, you know, and did some, you know, roles that, you know, I wouldn't do today or, you know, spontaneous like, "Hey Bailey, could you take your shirt off or whatever?" And, you know, I'm like 25 years old. Of course, I'm happy to take my shirt off. I was working out all the time. I'm 25. Like, you know, why do you go to the gym? So, but I, you know, I wouldn't do that so much today. I mean, I'll do it if it helps the the story and um things like that if it makes sense. And then, you know, cut all the way to 2019 was the last time I really played a a love interest on Queen of the South where, you know, we're kissing and whatever. And, um, you know, it was that was interesting, but I could also tell like that was the end, that chapter was ending for me. And, um, Alicia Braa is the star was the star of that show and she is incredible. But um yeah, it was, you know, that was kind of my first time doing it, being a dad and a husband. And it's it's different. You know, when I was a single guy, I didn't care so much. I just wanted people to like me and I wanted to, you know, fit in and and keep working. Uh but now, you know, I'm setting an an example and and if it makes sense, yeah, great. if this is something that I believe in. And that's what's so cool about Homestead and working for Angel Studios, like, you know, I get to give glory to God. It's it's in the story. You know, it's not heavy-handed like you were saying, Pure Flicks and things like that. Um, but but it's there and it's important and it's going to be a a change, you know, like it's my faith, my my character's faith is, you know, it's it's the catalyst for for the change that people are going to get to see in season two. It's pretty cool. Well, Bailey, I'm curious. This came this came up in my conversation with Ben Smallbone, who came on the show last year, who's, you know, the writer and the director and all the things for for Homestead, because I specifically asked him about uh Don Olivi, >> who is a co-star on the show. She plays Jenna Ross, and she plays kind of this super homeschooly mom and and and is very faith driven and all those types of things. But then I asked the obvious question, which is people that are going to be drawn to Homestead are going to be drawn to, you know, Yellowstone, which you've already talked about. Well, she's an actress on that show as well and had a recurring role. And let's just say she was, you know, fairly different than the the character she is in Homestead. She had a whole lot more Jezebel uh in in her spirit doing that. and has been about that and because you know uh I I guess he he basically said look Don is maybe not maybe not a Christian but she's she's on on set with all these true fervent believers in Christ and and people that aren't just proclaiming it but they're actually living it and all that and you know that gets on people right just like negativity and darkness gets all over people so does the light right because that's what light is it pushes back the darkness which is which is the whole point right and so I'm just curious what you see in other actors or actors es that are kind of put in these things where we kind of forget that these are real people that are that are playing a thing because I think people saw her as you are that person I saw on Yellowstone, but then you see them on Homestead and you're like, "Wait a minute, that hussy, did she change everything? What about all those other things I've seen?" Is that kind of making sense that that there's a dissonance there? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, people definitely do see you, you know, as a character and then they want to believe like you, you know, you're like that person or whatever. And obviously that's that's not the the case. You know, we use parts of ourselves and and you know, various roles. Um, but then, you know, that's that's why it is so cool when you get to play a character that aligns with who you are and what you believe in and yeah, I want my kids to to to see this. Um, you know, and so yeah, for for Don specifically, you know, obviously the Yellowstone stuff was way more racy. Um, and uh, you know, I, you know, I don't advocate for for my kids to to watch Yellowstone yet. They can they can do it when they get older, but you know, it's it's, you know, it's that kind of stuff. I wouldn't have them go watch Queen of the South cuz, you know, I don't really want them to see that. But if they want to watch Longmire, you know, that's more of like a PG-13 kind of, you know, show. And u you can go right into that. And you know, yeah, it's, you know, people die. A lot of people died in in Wyoming on on that show. Um for a state that doesn't have a very uh big population, but um it was they were like, man, a lot of people die in this small town. was like, "Yeah, well, you know, um but uh but yeah, I uh I I hear you. I I hear you on that." And um you know, for the most part that the audience is is pretty is pretty understanding, but I definitely make a a conscious effort and I I pass on more things today because it's it's just not the roles aren't I I'm like, I don't want to do that anymore. when it seems like you have some some guiding light in terms of that with with scripture. Even if you go to your Facebook profile, you have Isaiah 68 right there in your profile. So, I heard the VO voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send and whom will go for us? Then I said, here am I. Send me." So, I've seen that scripture on a lot of different things. I've seen that on, you know, your FCA posters or your high school football locker room posters, things like that. And then you have people that, you know, look at the military obviously playing Jeff Ericson, you know, retired SF Green Beret. Uh, you know, have a lot of people that look at that like Isaiah 68 is that life verse like, "Hey, send me to push back the darkness so that the sheep can be protected." Like that's that's how the the conclusions that I would draw, but I'm just curious for you, why is that verse so important? >> Yeah. uh you know just really resonates with with me and um you know I've always been someone who uh who's I I don't know I'm not conflict averse for better for worse like I you know I'm like I said I'm a true seeker and if if it requires conflict to get then I'm going to go do that and ultimately that you know that's that's what happened on you know like Longmire for example why why did I leave the show because I didn't you know the day I felt betrayed. I didn't agree with what was happening behind the scenes and we had the we had the the hard conversation at my request. No, the the good news is we had a whole, you know, almost year to to plan it. So, like they wrote it into the story and it was great. And, you know, they kind of held the secret pages until like the very last day. And um you know, my co-star, you know, Gerald McCrainy didn't have them either who who played my dad. And um so all all that was handled really well. Conflict doesn't, you know, have to be bad if it's done the right way. Then there's conflict resolution, you know, on on the other side. So back to Isaiah 68, you know, I just feel like, you know, if I'm the one if someone needs to be sacrificed, if someone needs to go get hit in the face, let me, you know, let me just go take one for the team. Um, and it's interesting, you know, I was talking to my son, you know, putting him to sleep last night. He's nine, but you know, I told him, you know, you're you're the man of the house when I leave and I want you to be good for mom and look out for your sisters and um you know, and you know, they they know cuz we've talked about it like I would gladly lay down my life for for whatever um they need to do to keep going. And uh you know, I think uh I think that's important for for a good leader, for a good dad to know that that that's that's the job. And if you don't you don't want that job, then don't sign up. >> Well, Bailey, I you know, I would echo that and I'm sure you would agree with this sentiment because a lot of people, especially men, if you've watched westerns or superhero movies or all that, we always kind of put ourselves in the mindset of like, hey, no, don't take the girl, right? You become a Tim McGraw song. It's like, don't take the girl, you can have me, like that kind of scenario. And we think about that in really heroic terms. But the real sacrifice is not laying your life down once. It's laying your life down every second of every day. Putting your wife's needs, you know, the helpmate made fit for you, putting her needs above yours. Putting, you know, your needs, like I was thinking of again another Russell Crow thing. So in Cinderella Man, whenever they're super poor, this is early in the movie. And they're like splitting up this single piece of meat or something like that. And you know, he sees his portion, then he sees, you know, I'm even getting emotional thinking about it with my boys. you know, he sees how much they have and he's like, "Oh, dad is so stuffed. Dad's so hungry." But that's what a dad does. Dad puts his hunger aside. He puts his needs aside for his progeny, for his sons that he those are the arrows he's shooting into the next generation, right? For his daughters who will carry the future warriors that will save civilization, right? That's that's how we should really really think about it. And I really think everything that we've talked about, it feels like it culminates in the project that you're working on with Homestead because you have this this development in your life. You have, you know, moving out of LA, your your spiritual awakening, you know, back to the father, back to Christianity, back to Jesus, and then you've got this show, right? And so I'm just curious for you, when were you made aware of the project? How did you get involved? Again, Angel Studios was just kind of like the chosen thing for a while and then it's expanded out considerably to where people almost forget that, you know, Angel basically got its upshot from The Chosen. How did you get involved with it and describe the project for the audience if they haven't seen it? >> Yeah, absolutely. So, um, God, it's about two years ago. I was on a family vacation with, uh, with my in-laws. It was their 50th wedding anniversary. There were like 12 of us crammed into a beach house down in, uh, South Carolina. And uh and I got the call and they wanted me to, you know, audition like that day, the next day. Then and I was like, "No, I can't." You know, and this is all going through the agents in LA and all, you know, all over the place. And I was like, "Look, I'm I'm so Well, send me send me the script and blah blah blah." And so I was able to like, you know, carve out a little bit of time to go read it. Be Yeah, I like it. This is interesting. But I literally um I couldn't audition because I was in a house with 12 people, half of them under the age of 10. Like it was loud. And uh and then you know it like about 3 days of that Neil McDonald was already attached. He reached out to me on the side. I explained the situation to him. He's like dude I'm on it. I got go enjoy your family. And then like two days of nothing and I was like oh. And I finished the script in this time and I'm like oh man. I was dang it >> kind of kind of excited about it. And there was a a Hollywood strike going on. So there was like no work and uh I was still questioning at the time like you know am I am I going to make be able to make this North Carolina you know am I going to have to be a high school football coach like which is fine >> uh but I'm going to have to make some adjustments you know on our expenses and uh and then after like two days of silence the the offer came in you know and I you know I didn't have to read for it there was kind of no time they needed me in Utah the following week and uh you know I had done just enough that they were able to see from previous jobs and and they had been looking for a while and couldn't find the guy and and uh yeah, they they landed on me. Again, I can't take any credit for that. Um and then we went and shot the movie and then that came out um you know, 10 months later or something. We went right into season 1. Um had to shoot that in two different sessions. Um tried to work around Neil Mcdana's schedule, but he was on Tulsa King by that time. M >> um so uh so we ended up having to do the rest of season one without him. Uh and then we you know start season two later this week and to go back to Dawn for she was a different person when I met her two years ago and she is surrounded by a lot of Christians big believers on this show and she can't not again she's you know she's a truth seeker as well and so if she sees something and it's true she's going to start you know and she's paying attention more and more and more. So, I've seen a real change in her and you, you know, I laughed when you were talking right before we got on the air. You know, that uh your female audience are a bunch of, you know, gangsters, you know way. >> Shout out to the 5enters. Let's go. >> That's right. She is 100% gangster. She's a boss. Um so, I love her and I love that Homestead has allowed me the opportunity to uh to get to know her as well because she she's a tough nut to crack, but um she's beautiful inside. Well, the the great thing about that is when you have that tough nut to crack, which I think all of us, if you are a lean forward, fervent gospel- centered Christian, there are those people in your life that you just can't get out of your head because of the challenge that it would be to just share Christ with that person. And I don't mean just from an evangel evangelistic standpoint where you're trying to, you know, be Ray Comfort and walk them through these 10 questions so that they eventually come to Christ, which I'm I'm pro that style. I don't really care what your style is. I just care that you do it. But when you're actually living out capital T truth in your life, that's the difference. Because there's kind of this church campy thing to where it's like, hey, just be different and people will be attracted to you. It's like actually in the current culture we're in, if you live for Jesus and you're different in that way, people will actually reject you, right? Because you're not doing you're not echoing the nostrums that society has, you know, glombmed on to, I guess you could say. And so I think a lot of that is is is there as well. But like again with with Dawn or with anybody, it just kind of gets on them to where it's like, "Okay, time out. Wait a minute. >> Where is all this coming from?" Okay, I've heard of this Jesus guy. Yeah, he was like a Middle Eastern hippie, right? He was kind of Did isn't he the inventor of socialism? That's what I've heard from dorks on the internet. like you know you kind of get to this thing and then it's like you introduce the real Jesus to a person and talk about hey he was God but he was also man and he was sent on to this planet on a rescue mission >> and that somehow counted for you when he died on the cross and rose from the grave 3 days later and you don't have to be able to explain it in high fallutin you know theological language you just have to explain who you were as a wretched black-hearted sinner before Jesus and then who you are and the hope and faith that you have Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I and and to go back to what you were saying earlier and you know I was thinking about it and you know proximity matters and and so when I was looking around in LA and you know a year into co and the kids and my marriage is on the rocks and there's no work there's no life there's nothing and you know it was it was just evil all around the devil just in in my house in my living room and I couldn't escape it and you know I was you know drinking more than I should have been and blaming and pointing fingers and you know thinking about me and you know I I can see it now. I had the blinders on then but 90% of my friends out there they weren't on their first marriage. They weren't married. They weren't you know and then I come here and it's like 90% of my inner circle here they're all married and they've been married and I'm I'm you know 13 years in. they've been married at least that long and you know raising raising their children not you know kids in LA no offense being raised by nannies and you know things like that so you know that was something that always kind of stuck out to me out there as well um I get it it's a nice luxury but there's there's something real that's happening here and I think part of why you know we talk about Tom Hardy and when I'm watching him act I I lean in or watching him do jiu-jitsu he's freaking awesome I was like, "Oh, yeah, that's guy's good." Um, and again, it's that truth with a capital T. And I think people see me struggling here because I don't I don't hide it. Uh, I'm very involved in my local community. Um, you know, on a board that helps first responders in need. And I'm so blessed to be a part of that. But, you know, marriage, you know, is hard. Parenting is hard. But I think people see me struggling putting the work in. and they see me show up, you know, some days tired, bed head, whatever. Like, he's just a dad. He's just he's going through it like we're going through it. And he just he's just happens to be an actor, not, you know, not a coach or a banker or a cop or, you know, just I don't know like um I've been told, you know, over the years like you you're not like an actor and I think it's a it's a compliment. It's just the profession that I happen to choose. Yeah, I've even I'll leave them uh nameless, but I've I've talked to some actors before and I know some people that are, you know, have talked to actresses and it's almost like you're talking to somebody. It's like you're talking to a a still frame of a human being. Like there's nothing behind their eyes. You know, there's something in there, but it's like, "Hey, hey, hey, are you are you like a are you a real person? Like what what what's going on? What's going on back there?" >> I've done that in scenes where it's like >> like I I start like touching them, put my hands on them to see >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's like, hey, you know, this is real. >> Yeah. It's like, you know, hey, you can be like a normal person. Like, you don't have to be this like weird robot. Maybe they are robots. Maybe the aliens are already here. But I do want to talk about your character a little bit more of in Homestead, you know, going into season 2, you have Jeff Ericson. The thing about Jeff, you know, retired Green Beret, right? No such thing as a former Green Beret. He's a retired Green Beret. I mean, he went through the Q course, right? He he had to get through different, you know, ODAs and workups and deployments and all the things. He's a serious guy. not a whole lot of smiling from you uh in this character. It's all very very stoic. It's all very very serious, very very to the point. And so it seems like you got a little bit of that natural stoic in you, right? Maybe it comes from childhood, dad not being there in football. If you're sitting there crying on the field all the time, probably not going to be a great look, especially if you're trying to get the play into the rest of the defense, whatever thing is, right? So you got to have some of that stoicism, that natural toughness. you know, you've done the westerns, you've done things like that, but this is just kind of an extension of of that kind of character. So, I'm even just curious for you. >> How do you prepare or train for a role like that? Because, you know, you got a lot of, you know, former SF guys, you got a lot of, you know, former Spec Ops guys that are watching a show like this and they will nitpick your kit. They will nitpick how you're holding your M4. They will nitpick how your feet are moving, you know, where your eyes are going. And that's got to be a lot of pressure right? >> Yeah. Yeah, it is. and they do and they already have and um we've had some issues with with my kit and I went back and I I redid it with Jeff. Um so it got it got better. Um but the reality is, you know, we're not um we're not Netflix, we're not Warner Brothers, we don't have, you know, Taylor Sheridan money. uh he makes great stuff, but he he might have 30 million an episode to, you know, do on any particular show, whereas um you know, we're just under one. Um so we got we just have less bodies, less time, um and less cool stuff like explosions and you know, guns and uh it's it's a treat for me to have a a belt fed. you know, I've had like two two days um in in two seasons where I where I get to actually like do something that cool where they do it every week. Um so yeah, it's um >> you know, it's a it's a challenge, but we're we're really tight as as as a group. We shoot everything natural light. Um, Jeff is very high highrung and stressed out and you know I know where the story is going and even in season one you saw some you know kind of chinks in the in the armor but that's me just trying to you know a Avar what's what's part of that you know to be vulnerable and um to be vulnerable is is to be human and you know um some things happened in my family so I I thought you know that was an authentic moment to to let that seep out um a little bit there. And then he's really struggling. Do I, you know, do I go back to the homestead or do I play it safe here? Is this what's best for my family? And then, you know I I start looking more more to God as, you know, as Jeff. Um but yeah, and also of course when when I get to play, you know, a character like this, a real life guy, the stakes go way up for me. I put a lot of pressure on myself to to get it right and do it right and um I've been you know I've become good friends with with Jeff Kirkham and you know he he has helped me and come to set on a couple of the important days just to make sure I get the tactical stuff right now that was so you know for those of you who have seen it you know I don't get to leave the homestead for for a while once you know once uh once everything goes offline uh I'm I'm stuck in the homestead for a while but then I finally get out season one and I get to do some some cool action stuff. >> Yeah. And then we're rolling into season two. Uh without giving away any spoilers, what can fans of Homestead and fans of yours expect with season two? >> Season two is pretty crazy. Um if uh if you've read the Black Autumn books, then you have a pretty good idea of uh of where we're going. Um and uh you know the other co-author uh Jason he uh he is a super prepper to the core. Um the homestead is that's his private re residents and those are all of his weapons in the gun vault. Uh they're actually there. They're not just you know they're not prop guns. They're they're all real. Um pretty pretty uh impressive stuff. And so, uh, go going back to our original talk about the snow. Um, this particular, uh, book called White Wasteland takes place in the snow. Um, which is why we push back, you know, as far as we can into the into the winter to, um, to try to get some snow out there in the m mountains of of Utah. Um, and uh, and that's that's what we're doing. Um, yeah, it's pretty it's pretty cool stuff. All right. Very good. So, you got a lot of cold days uh in your future, but before we let you get out of here, I've had a lot of fun, but I've got some rapid fire lightning round questions for you, and I intend to make you very uncomfortable. Are you ready? >> I'm ready. >> Okay. If you could have any part in any movie ever made in history. So when you look out at the landscape of all the movies and you could switch you in for one of those parts, which character would you be and in what movie? >> Bane. Bane comes to mind right now. That uh >> Oh, >> that was pretty epic. Yeah. >> Now would Now would this be the Christopher Nolan Bane, I'm assuming? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tom Hardy. Um, yeah. Where he's uh fighting Christian Bale. >> Yeah, that one. >> All right. Very good. Same question, but television show. You sub in for some character in some television show or series. >> Well, well, since I finished runner up, I uh I would have liked to have seen what I would have done with Rip. Cole's a friend. He's awesome. Uh, and it didn't bother me so much at the time when I didn't get it, but looking back on it and I I see him flying around in his private jets and his whiskey company and his coffee company, I was like, Rip would have been a good role. That that would have been fun. >> Okay. So, what's funny is whenever you said you finished runner up for Yellowstone, I wasn't thinking Rip. I was thinking uh who is it? Uh, the other the Casey. >> Okay. The younger one. Well, thank you. Yeah. No. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. No, I was up for for rip. Yeah. >> Okay. Very interesting. All right. Next one here. >> What What's that acting performance that you'd like to have have back, right? So, when you watch it back, you're just like, h, you know, cuz sometimes I'll listen back to a podcast or an interview, I'm like, have you ever used words before, Kyle? Because I'm not convinced because you said this in such a stupid way. What's that one thing in your catalog where you're just like, "Yeah, I missed it." >> I mean, anything. Anything early in my career? I was terrible. Half the time the shirt was coming off. Like, who who knows? Um, there was uh I did a soap opera, but Las Vegas kind of comes to mind, too. I I could have been better. I could have I could lots of young pretty people on that show. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, it is what it is. Well, hey, we we'll make this the last question of the day. >> I'm going to I'm going to make you pick your favorite child, but not your actual children. If you had to delete every bit of acting work that you've ever done, except for one performance, right? One character, right? So, this could be in a television show, movie, anything like that. But the rest of your IMDb is scrubbed and you get one character that 150 years from now when people look back on Bailey Chase as an actor, this is the one thing they get. What is it? >> Branch Long >> Branch. Why? Yeah, >> because I got to That's what I was going to guess, by the way. Yeah. Yeah, because it was the first time where I um I got to lean into the flaws. So, let's take everything pre- Longmire, you know, and me being pretty being a single dude. Um it was all about having it together and Branch and you know, season one, episode one has it all together, but by the end he's completely falling apart. And as an actor, wow, what a what a cool thing and what a gift the writers gave me to let the audience see that transformation to go from someone who seemingly has it all together to very uh spectacularly not for everyone to see. I thought that was pretty cool. >> Okay. All right. Well, I'm going to be like you. I'm going to lie because that wasn't my last question. You made me think of another one. So, here here is the actual last question of the day, even harder. You have to delete every single scene from your entire career except for a single scene. And it doesn't matter if you if you filmed it in an hour, if you filmed it in a week, but if there's a scene that you feel like encapsulates you, your performance as an actor, who you are as a man, whatever way you want to take that, but the rest of it goes away for forever. What's that one scene from that one performance that you want to keep for all time? >> So, this is a this is a funny one. Um, but uh on Longmire and I'm I'm there in the hallway with the sheriff and his uh daughter, who's my love interest at the time, um has been in a bad accident and he and I aren't getting along. I'm running against him in the election. And there you are. You've got these two alpha males just sitting there brought together by this tragedy. And we don't even speak, but it's all in the unspoken. And just having two men who are adversaries um being brought together by a higher calling. And I I nobody had to say anything. He and I just did the work before we got there. Showed up, they filmed it and it was really powerful. I Yeah, I get emotional even just thinking about it. And that was 10 years ago. >> All right. Well, there we go. Put you through a little bit of discomfort, but here we are. We're still smiling at the end of this thing. But hey, we've weaved in a bunch of out of a bunch of different topics in and out, but that's all for me. Is there anything else you want to get off your chest? >> No, Kyle. It's been a real pleasure. And uh God, I I feel it's a little early, but uh if it were later in the day, I'd go have a drink. But I'll just go have a coffee and think about this on my flight out to Utah. But a real pleasure. Thank you. Thank you so much. >> You don't need a drink. You just need a 100 burpees and then you'll be good to go. Okay. >> I'll do that. All right. >> All right. Sounds good, man. >> All right, brother. Thank you. >> There you go, guys. I hope you enjoyed my time with Bailey. But before we let you go, we are going to do a quick resilience boost at Undaunted Life. Her mission is equipping men to push back darkness with content that forges spiritual, mental, and physical resilience. So, I've got a link to Bailey's Facebook page, and I've also got a link to the Angel Studios website where you can watch Homestead. Thank you for listening to this podcast. Wherever you're listening to this, please subscribe, rate, and leave us a positive five-star review. If you want me to come speak live at your event or on your podcast, just shoot me an email to info@undantton.life. That's info@undantton.life. Follow us on Instagram and like us on Facebook and check out our website for everything else, including how to donate to keep more content like this coming your way. Just go to www.undauntton.life. And as always, we want to thank the band Holy Name for allowing us to use their music for our content. The music on this podcast is their song Perpetual, which is off their self-titled debut album on Faceown Records. The links are in the description. I'm your host, Kyle Thompson. Remember, keep pushing back darkness. Keep forging spiritual, mental, and physical resilience. 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