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"This is Undaunted Life, a Man's Podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it."
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"Joe, that was the best clap of the day because this is our third of five podcast recordings
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that we're doing today.
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Are you tired of me yet?"
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"No, not at all."
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"I'm tired of me.
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But here's one thing.
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You've changed like every time.
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You've got like a whole team of people out here that it's like a pit crew, like they change
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your hat, they change your shirt, they give you some deodorant."
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"That's it.
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There are perks to being a mega church pastor."
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"Oh my gosh.
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Yeah.
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And oh gosh, I've been getting the mega church treatment in here.
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You know what I mean?
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I mean, the gold Rolls Royce that picked me up from the airport and all the things, right?
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Because guys just give generously to the brethren.
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That's what I would say.
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It's just give generously.
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But here we are.
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We're doing ask a pastor.
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We're in your digs.
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You know the drill.
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And you said beforehand, you might ask me some questions, but that ask a podcaster thing.
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I don't know if we're going to do that again, right?
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We are definitely doing ask a podcaster again.
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I don't think anybody liked it.
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I think everyone was like, "Why isn't Joby talking more?"
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So...
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"Leave your comments.
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Ask a podcaster was the best thing that..."
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"Leave the comments.
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I won't read them.
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I won't listen to them."
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But first question, this one's from me.
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Okay, so getting right into Bible stuff, Boogie Hebrews, who wrote it?
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Don't know.
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Okay, we don't know.
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Then why is it in the Bible?
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If we don't know the author?
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That's a great question.
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I don't know.
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Because of the content was an alignment with all the other things that the scriptures say
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and do.
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There's something you can make a pretty dang decent argument that Paul wrote it.
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Some do, but it doesn't explicitly say that.
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So you can't say it.
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Okay.
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There you go.
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That would be a curious one for me.
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But the next one is from Mark...
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Yeah, that's a good question.
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I don't...
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That would be one I need you to go do just a little bit more research on when the canon
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came together.
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Actually, she text your boy Wes Hough.
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He could probably tell you time and date.
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Well, you could text your boy John Piper and be like, "Hey, if you can take a pause from
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your Asperger, so maybe can you figure out exactly what's going on here?
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Maybe he knows."
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I'm sure he knows more than I do.
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All right.
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Next question, this is from the largest of all forging tablers, Jank Winkler.
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Okay.
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If he was here, he would be like ogering over the microphone.
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Love, Jank Winkler.
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And so this is appropriate because this is coming out in October.
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Should Christians celebrate Halloween?
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And so a lot of Christians have talked to me and I haven't ran into too many people
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that are very fervent.
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And if they are fervent in their opinions, it's only that any type of Halloween celebration
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is demonic and terrible and you shouldn't do it.
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But how should Christians and Christian families think about Halloween?
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All right.
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This is not original to me.
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I'm stealing this from somebody else, but there's three ways to look at sociological
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things like this and some things you just outright reject.
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So if things are leading you to sin or worship the devil, which is a sin, then you should
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reject it.
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Some things that you wholeheartedly receive.
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And then there are other things that can be redeemed.
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In my house, Halloween and dressing the kids up, that was in the redeemable category.
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And my kids wanted to dress up like zombies and stuff, you know?
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And so we did and we worship Jesus and we talked about gifts and how you didn't do anything
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to deserve this Halloween gift, except your neighbors are being neighborly.
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And so there's, you know, anything that God creates, the devil tries to corrupt and just
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don't be weird and don't march them down some kind of path of the demonic.
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Don't sacrifice cats in your front yard while you're cutting up your jack-o-lanterns.
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But the problem is, man, the person that you went to college with, it was just drunk.
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That's the person that whose parents hid them under a bushel and didn't let them lead life
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at all and navigate any decisions on how to make decisions on what was okay for them.
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Yeah.
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And I got a buddy that lives in my neighborhood and his family, he's not, you know, thumping
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people for celebrating Halloween, but they don't give out candy.
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They're their kids have never really done that.
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They never never dressed up, but he's not like, oh, yeah, and you're going to hell because
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you dress up your boys as Spider-Man and Iron Man, you know, for Halloween or whatever.
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So it's kind of one of those things like if it's attacking your conscience that you shouldn't
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do it for your family.
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For sure.
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Then don't do it.
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Who cares?
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So the difference between a legalist and that neighbor is a legalist is the person that
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says what is healthy for me is a must for you.
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That's the problem.
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Yeah.
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So when you just stop at, no, for me, as for me in my house, this is how I decide to lead
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my house.
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No problem.
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That's what you should do.
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My question is from a church 11, 22 or so he goes to church with you, Joey, that is
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the proper vernacular.
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And he's also a Dominion team, one guy.
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So shout out to Will.
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So it's kind of a longer question, but I think it's important.
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So at what point should Christians consider boycotting the national football league and
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sports in general on television?
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It seems to me that all televised sports seems to me that all the televised sports,
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but the NFL and college football, especially had transitioned at some point in the last
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five years or so to where the game is no longer the product.
5:06
The fans are the product being sold to advertisers.
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And what are the advertisers selling to us?
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Cheap alcohol, horrible food, sex, especially gambling, and then prescription drugs to cure
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all the ills created by the aforementioned things.
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They constantly advertise ailments to us that no one knows they have to encourage us to
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go to the doctor and ask for drugs.
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If the excessive promotion of gambling isn't bad enough, the worst violations that come
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to mind recently is that they are promoting and normalizing homosexual lifestyles to
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us right in our living rooms, advertising aids, prevention drugs, and in doing so, intentionally
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telling young people that the lie that the lifestyle is normal and free of guilt and
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consequences.
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Where do we draw the line and if not now, then when?
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When the Jags win the Super Bowl.
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We have to wait until then.
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So never is kind of the idea.
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Okay.
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You never do.
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I think you have to be wise enough to know how to eat the fish and spit out of the bones.
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Okay.
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We do not live in a Christian society.
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The NFL is not trying to disciple people.
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The enemy is trying to kill still and destroy in everything in everything.
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Even whatever like made for family movie that you watch, it can be just as destructive.
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So again, I'm telling you, you can go Amish, but the problem with that is they don't have
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any impact on the society.
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I'm moving closer to the NFL, not further away.
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I'm leading Bible studies inside the NFL instead of saying I'm not watching this because of
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the commercial and Steve allow on there.
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Now again, this brother for the sake of his own conscious might need to never watch a
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commercial again.
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I'm not doubting him for that whatsoever.
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If that's what the spirit of God leads him to do.
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And so sometimes you have missionaries that move into the culture to try to make a difference.
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This is what Jesus said about salt and light.
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And then some people for the sake of God sanctifying work in their life, they need to avoid some
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things because they got to put off some things that's tangling them up, even though watching
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football in and of itself is not a sin.
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You did this with baseball for a season in your life, right?
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Because you got two into it.
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Our family watches the Braves games all the time.
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So currently the Lord is teaching us humility because we're terrible, awful, terrible.
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How do you're so bad?
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But it is a thing.
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It's one of the few things that we all like to do together and it's the craziest thing.
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So and yeah, they play all kind of goofy commercials about stuff we disagree with when
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your kids are little, what a great opportunity at just the right age to point out the evils
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of the world.
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Rick Warren, when his boys were growing up or kids, I don't know.
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I know he had some boys, but anyway, when his children were growing up, he had taught
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them first, John to don't love the world or the things of this world for the only thing
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this world can offer is less of the eyes, less of the flesh and the pride of life.
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And when they when commercials would come on, if they could name which sin they were promoting,
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whether it was stuff, sex or status, he would give them like a nickel or something like that.
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That's a way that you take what the enemy intends for evil and God intends for good.
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You can do that kind of thing.
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But again, your previous answer about Holly about Halloween is the same answer I would
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give.
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Okay.
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Very good.
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Well, this next question is from me.
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So I've talked a lot about gay surrogacy, gay adoption, things that are kind of funded
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and created because the IVF process, all those types of things, but let's get practical as
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a pastor here.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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You have a couple that comes to 11 22.
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Yes.
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They are a gay couple that has adopted kids.
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Correct.
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They come here and a radical move of the Holy Spirit happens.
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They get saved.
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They realize this is bad.
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We cannot be together.
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We have children.
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Yep.
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This isn't we have a house.
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So how are we going to split, you know, sell in the house?
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Hey, who gets the dog?
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Yep.
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These are children.
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That should have never been placed to them to begin with, but have been.
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But here we are.
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What in the world do you do bro?
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The first thing you better do as a pastor is understand when you were over your head.
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Okay.
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So I don't know if you realize this, but there's not a verse in the Bible that says, and Paul
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went into Ephesus and there were some lesbian girls with a baby in here, you know?
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So the way you begin to untangle this web of sin is you start with what you know that
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you know.
9:17
And so you can't have two women sleeping together because they're not married because marriage
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is between a woman and a man.
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So you at least began to take steps of obedience in what you know that you know.
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Now it's going to get way more complicated, really, really quick.
9:31
And I would be the first one.
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I would call honestly a bunch of my friends that you know and some people that have some
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kind of maybe expertise in this and say, can y'all help me figure out how I shepherd these
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people through the next steps of obedience to the good shepherd in their life?
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That's what I would do.
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So to even act like I know exactly what I would do right now would be a bit presumptuous.
9:55
And what's, what's, I don't know what you say, interesting is I know a gay couple who
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has adopted, I think two boys, they're like friends of a friend and I love them very much
10:05
and share the gospel with them and I've always thought, oh boy, if God saves these folks,
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what are we going to do?
10:12
But I'm not going to let what may or may not happen in the future prevent me from doing
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the right thing, which is to share the gospel with these folks.
10:19
Well, let's, let's take the scenario, right?
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So it's going to put you on spot a little bit more.
10:23
So a younger pastor that, you know, loves you and leans on you and all that.
10:27
So Josh Hougherton has someone at his church calls me.
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This happens.
10:31
He calls you.
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What do you say?
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I'm getting some people together and saying, all right, what do we do here?
10:38
Help us.
10:39
Help this family.
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I want it.
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I'm going to do what the Bible says.
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The Bible says sex is for married people marriage is for one man, one woman.
10:49
That's immediate.
10:50
When you start getting the who's raising these kids and all the, you know, theologically
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what is right here, I would need some help unpacking and digging that thing and I know
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your elders would be involved in that.
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That's 100%.
11:03
But again, I think one of the problems in today's churches is that the pastor, a lot
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of them think they're the end all be all that they know everything about politics and
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about sociology, right, right, right, right.
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So, I mean, and I'm not trying to dodge the question.
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You know what I mean?
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I think the, I mean, God lead the ideal.
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I don't know what, I don't know what a tough situation.
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I think the age of the kids matters a ton.
11:27
You know, I think the lead foot is what is the best thing for the children.
11:32
I think that's the best way to think about it.
11:34
As I think about it for the first time in my life, I think that's the way to think about
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it.
11:38
What is the best thing for the kids?
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Not what is the best thing for the parents that, you know, have all kind of emotional
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attachment for sure.
11:46
Who's your favorite forging tabular?
11:48
The horn.
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Ryan horn.
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This is a question from the forging tabular that Joe, Joe B loved.
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What's your thoughts on agency?
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How far does our agency extend before all become, before we all become automatons?
12:04
I typically use the phrase agency when people want to talk about free will and so I do think
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God has given us agency and that is where the accountability is wrapped up.
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You know, it's a hard thing.
12:20
You know, when, when, when John MacArthur passed away, there's a bunch of MacArthur clips all
12:24
over the place right now and I thought one of the best ones, I meant to send you, usually
12:29
you need to track this thing down, somebody was trying to have John MacArthur, they used
12:34
the word harmonize.
12:36
How do you harmonize the accountability of man to follow Jesus and the sovereignty of
12:44
God in salvation?
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Yeah.
12:46
And then he just started quoting verses about the sovereignty of God and quoting verses
12:50
about accountability of man and he just said, these things are not to be harmonized.
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Why are we trying to harmonize them?
12:56
I think that agency and, and the sovereignty of God thing are things both are true at the
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same time.
13:04
And I think it's more like parallel tracks than things that need to harmonize in our own
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mind.
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Okay.
13:10
Very good.
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Yeah.
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Next one's from Isaac.
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That's what Joby's saying.
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All right.
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So let's get back to the, appreciate that, Joby.
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In fact, this question from Isaac, I'm currently reading RC Sproul's Expositional commentary
14:17
on Romans.
14:18
In chapter four titled judicial abandonment, he talks about how God gives us over to our
14:22
sin because naturally we humans repress and suppress the truth of God that the truth that
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God is God.
14:29
RC mentions church discipline and excommunication.
14:32
The reason for excommunication being impenetence.
14:35
What does church discipline mean to you as a pastor and should the church discipline, why
14:39
or why not?
14:40
Before you get into this, you know, I don't know that I've ever heard an example of church
14:44
discipline because let's say you're in Oklahoma, right?
14:47
So many churches, right?
14:48
So if faith Bible church, where I go starts to put someone under church discipline, they're
14:53
going to be like, okay, well, just go to the church across the street.
14:56
I'm not sitting here throughout this discipline process.
14:58
It's kind of like when you sue the place that fired you to get your job back, do you really
15:04
want that job back?
15:05
Like everyone's going to hate you.
15:07
You know what I mean?
15:08
Yeah.
15:09
That's my work.
15:10
Do y'all do church discipline?
15:11
Yeah, we just don't call it that because it's so freaking dangerous and I don't mean
15:14
we're scared of anything, but the context is so different.
15:18
Community was everything there.
15:19
And if you were not in the local fellowship, I mean, bro, you were ostracized and the idea.
15:25
So the thing you got to ask is, so what is the point of discipline?
15:29
The point of discipline is that somebody would repent, correct their ways and get back on
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track.
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Yeah.
15:37
If you just think it's punishment, then you're not thinking about it, right?
15:39
Punishment and discipline are not the same thing.
15:41
Punishment may be used to discipline somebody, but they are not one and the same.
15:45
Honestly, for the sake of people understanding that we are trying to confront with grace,
15:53
with a heart of reconciliation and repentance, we call it pastoral care.
15:58
Now, a lot of times people use pastoral care to talk about like, you know, counseling and
16:03
stuff.
16:04
There are many times here where somebody in some kind of position of leadership or even
16:10
a covenant member is living a lifestyle out of bounds of actually what they have signed
16:16
up to allow us and invite us to hold them accountable.
16:22
And we step into that and help them take steps of repentance and reconciliation, first and
16:27
foremost to the Lord and whoever else they're sinning against.
16:30
Sometimes it's a strike firing and calling of the police.
16:33
So I guess that way.
16:34
I mean, there was a case just recently where somebody was sinning egregiously.
16:39
And so we, we, and they weren't on staff, but they were a volunteer.
16:44
And we said, you don't ever get to be a volunteer again and this family is pressing charges.
16:48
So that's straight up church discipline.
16:52
And so there are qualifications, you know, things about these questions is a just kind
16:55
of verbal process because, you know, it's not like I got to think about it very much.
16:59
And so, so sometimes there are just punishment, there are things that you were so like what
17:04
you did was illegal.
17:06
And the government has already decided what happens there.
17:08
And we are in compliance as far as the laws don't prevent us from doing something God
17:14
told us to do or try to make us do something God told us not to do, all right.
17:19
But when somebody is in immorality, then what there are many, many times we might remove
17:25
them from a position of service or leadership and then try to walk with them, try to do
17:29
the Matthew 18 thing.
17:30
Yeah.
17:31
Like you've seen, let me, you know, let's get some logs and specs out of everybody's
17:35
eyes so that you can get back in line.
17:38
The problem, man, when it gets overly formalized, this is how people get in trouble.
17:43
And the who does it matter so much?
17:45
I mean, if I had, I've had friends that had big multi-site churches and they've got like
17:50
a campus pastor that was really, really young, trying to do church discipline on a couple
17:54
that's, and it just gets wonky real quick, man, really, really quick.
17:59
So the heart of it is that we're trying the same thing when you're, when you're disciplining
18:05
your children, you just don't hit them for everything, right?
18:09
And even if you do believe in corporal punishment, which I do because the Bible does, the whole
18:13
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18:18
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So I got a couple more things, but we burned through my questions faster than I thought.
20:38
So I guess we do have some time for an ask a podcaster.
20:41
So if there are any ones you didn't get to last time, what did you answer this one?
20:46
Because you got pages and pages of questions.
20:48
I know, but I don't have them with me.
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I don't have them with me right now.
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If you were going to preach a sermon to the church that you attend right now and your pastor
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said, all right, you've been attending here for however long and you've been in your Sunday
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school class for however long and you know so many families here, what would be the topic
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of a sermon that you would preach at your local church right now?
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The godliness and manliness of Jesus.
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Oh.
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And so do you think that's because there's not a lot of godly manly people or do you just
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think that's like always a good idea to talk about?
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So if, so this is the Friday of saturated Phil Hopper is about to bring, bring the fire
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this evening.
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Love that, dude.
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If Phil Hopper fell into a hole and couldn't get out and you and Britt came up to me and
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you're like, Kyle, we need you.
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We're pulling you out of the bullpen.
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You got to go preach.
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You got two hours.
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Until it's game time.
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That's already in there.
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So that's, that's the topic.
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Doesn't matter the setting.
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Doesn't matter where.
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So you're saying you're preaching out of the overflow of a message that God has put
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in your heart.
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Yeah.
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And it's, and it's a message and there's a lot of different elements.
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I'm going to talk about Nehemiah four.
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I'm going to talk about Mark two.
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I'm going to talk about a lot of those different things.
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Okay.
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Question one B. What do you think the message that your local church needs to hear the most?
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, you're there.
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It's, it's, yeah, so Edmond, Oklahoma, there is an assumption because of who I am and because
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of what I do that the church I attend reflects my preferences and actions, the same as if
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I were running the show.
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Yeah.
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It's not very accurate.
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So I cannot say that there is a thriving men's ministry at my church.
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The church man, we got some beautiful people at our church man.
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Like gosh, these men and women, they are done up.
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They look great.
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If you know anything about Oklahoma, it is East Edmond, baby.
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It's old money and new money trying to be old money and it's, oh man, everyone's very,
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very squeaky clean and by God, there is so much depravity just like in any congregation,
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right?
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It's just behind a veneer of perfectly pressed dresses and women that make sourdough and
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men that make a bunch of money and it's just, but we're depraved.
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And so it's, I think it would be like, Hey, how much longer are we going to keep up the
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charade?
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How much longer are you going to keep coming to Sunday school?
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Praise God, praise the name of Jesus and praise the Lord for the days given us.
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And you can't wait to get home and polish off that bottle of Jack, right?
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You can't wait to see your assistant again on Monday so you can keep your affair going.
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You cannot wait to get back to the golf course so that you can escape from your wife that
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you hate, whatever the situation is, and you just keep coming to church, praise his name,
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praise his name.
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And so I don't think I'm talking about faith Bible church in Edmond, Oklahoma, as much as
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I'm talking about basically everywhere where people are pretending, yeah, and did not really
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get after it.
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I've warned against that here, you know, man, I mean, and from your house to your church,
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it looks like Pleasantville.
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It is.
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It's like a lot.
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It is.
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Yeah.
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Well, I think you should start writing the message.
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You never know.
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Oh, it's ready to go.
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Is Phil here?
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Because if he's in that hole and he can't get out like he's tall, there's going to be
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a big hole.
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He's going to have to dig himself out of.
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That's all I got.
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You got anything else?
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So a couple of things.
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Why did you leave forward?
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Why?
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Because I was going to steal your ending there.
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Okay.
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So what I want you to do, I want you to take a deep breath and then I want you to exhale
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as much as you can exhale.
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And then before you take any breath back in, I want you to scream as loud as you can.
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Is that even possible?
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Well, that's what we're going to find out.
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We're going to do it to you.
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I'll do it first.
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Right.
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I'll pass it out.
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I'm old.
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No, so you just, you exhale.
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We're not going to do it together.
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You get, you need to, because I don't want you to exhale a whole bunch and then take a
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deep breath and then yell out.
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Okay.
24:56
So you're going to exhale all your air out of your lungs.
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I mean, we're emptying the lungs and then we're going to yell as loud as we can.
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So.
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Uh.
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That's the thing.
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That's the thing.
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Whoo.
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Landon, did you get that?
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Did you get a close up?
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I almost died there.
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Landon's back there.
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He says he got it.
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So breathe it all out.
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When you think it's all out, keep it excelling.
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Keep exhaling.
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Then as loud as we can.
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I thought that was going to be hard to do it.
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That's going to be great.
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That's going to live in on the internet forever after all this.
25:43
One last thing though, whatever, uh, so you said something kind of concerning on a previous
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ask a pastor episode, what I say.
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So I was doing my normal thing at the end where I kind of say, you know, it's, you know,
25:58
it's kind of a funny or an interesting scenario and all those types of things.
26:02
And I said, Hey, Joby, you can only have one for the rest of your life and the others
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away gone forever, right?
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Never get to have it again.
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I said grilled cheese or peanut butter and jelly.
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Oh, yeah.
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And what did you say?
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I don't think you've ever eaten a peanut butter and jelly, right.
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So you my knowledge or the testimony of my mother, right?
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So you, you chose grilled cheese, which a lot of people would choose, right?
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You said you had never had a peanut butter and jelly, correct.
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And so I knew that that wasn't an equity in your life.
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That was an injustice that was thrusted upon you that that was just something that could
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not be stood for.
26:38
So if you're just listening to this, uh, this is the quintessential, uh, but also basic
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traditional peanut butter and jelly.
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So I'm going to go ahead and describe it.
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Landon, can we get a close up?
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No, Landon's back there.
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What is, what is Landon doing?
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So white bread, uh, wonder bread.
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All right.
27:07
We're just keeping it simple.
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This is what your mom should have fed you.
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It's not technically food, but it is wonder bread.
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Everyone get fancy with the jelly.
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Oh, we got this, like organic jelly.
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We got whatever.
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Welch is great.
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Okay.
27:19
We're keeping it simple, but the best peanut butter of all time.
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The goat, a peanut butter is the Michael Jordan of peanut butters.
27:25
It is Peter Pan, honey roasted, creamy peanut butter because if you go chunky, it could
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be a risk.
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Okay.
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And so I was supposed to make two of these, but this is actually, I think our fourth recording
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today.
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It was in between the last two recordings I ran into a dark room and made this for you.
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I was going to, we were going to share a peanut butter and jelly together, but I only had
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time to get one done, but, and again, you got a peanut butter, both sides.
27:48
Some people are like jelly on one side, peanut butter on the, no peanut butter on both sides.
27:51
And jelly in the middle squish, I almost made you a triple decker, but.
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So because I'm 52 years old and I've never had one, I am going to give this to you.
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No, you're not going to do it.
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Because at this point in my life, Joby, we just need a bite, we just need a bite.
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I don't think I'm going to people at home.
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They, I have been planning this.
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Do you know how a number of this point get to say I've never had one?
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How dumb of a thing to have, what a dumb feather to have in your cat that you've never, wait,
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well, here's the thing here, I'll, I'll level with you.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
28:26
If you have a bite, you still haven't had a peanut butter and jelly, you've had a bite
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of a peanut butter and jelly.
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I'm on a pass, but I appreciate it.
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It looks good.
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You should eat it.
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You need to pray.
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You know what we're going to do, wait, how much do you wait?
28:41
This is one of the, don't change the subject.
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This is one of the most disappointing things I think in the history of this podcast.
28:46
It's the story of my ministry right there.
28:47
I don't do what people want me to do, but there's only one thing that I think can remedy
28:51
the situation.
28:52
What's that?
28:53
Hey, Landon, we're going to need you to come out here and take a big bite.
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That's how we're going to end.
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That's how we're going to end this.
28:59
Landon comes out from behind the Wizard of Oz curtain and you are going to take a bite
29:03
of this peanut butter and jelly and then you're doing the sign off.
29:06
Get in here.
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I hear movement.
29:08
Get in here, Landon.
29:09
This is Landon's favorite thing.
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I was with Landon one time.
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The first time he ever did karaoke.
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Now his first podcast appearance and then you have to do the sign off.
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All right.
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So some sort of a sign off Landon Robertson, everybody.
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Okay.
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Oh, look at that.
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That was a good bite.
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Beautiful bite.
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All right.
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For the people at home, give them a sign off.
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Thank you for listening.
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I don't know.
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Do you want to sell something from one of my sponsors?
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Oh, yeah.
29:37
Thank you to Jocko fuel.
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Yeah, it's it.
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Thank you.
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Jocko fuel.
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I'm wearing origin boots and everything.
29:42
So you got to stay here.
29:43
Guys, you're so thankful.
29:44
Hey, Joby, is there anything else you want to get off your chest?
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No, sir.
29:48
I'm good.
29:49
All right.
29:50
Until next time.
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