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This is Undaunted Life of Man's Podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson, let's get into it.
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Jobe, welcome back. What do you think of my new digs?
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This is the first time, first time recording on this, right?
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Maybe. I want to see the new tattoo. I don't think I've seen it in motion.
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Well, you'll see it in person here soon, but look at there.
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Look at all that detail, and more will be added in short order.
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Yeah, that elbow, that elbow is no joke.
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You know it's bad when dudes that are covered in tattoos
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have nothing on the, like, ends of their elbows. You're like, "I wonder why that is."
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It's because it sucks, because it's terrible. That's why.
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Isn't that the first thing? When I see a sleeve, that's the first thing I check.
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Yeah, it's like, "Let's look at the inner bicep and let's look at the elbow."
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Because you got dudes that get a tribal arm band that doesn't connect in the middle.
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It's like, "Yeah, that's somewhat problematic."
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But that actually does tell quite nicely into my first question today,
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which is, "When's the last time you cried and what for?"
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I cried on stage Sunday, when I was preaching about my wife.
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Yeah, I remember that guy who choked up.
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Well, for people that didn't listen to that sermon because it will have been a few weeks ago now,
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what was it specifically about your wife that got you choked up?
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Well, we're talking, we're walking through first Timothy, you know,
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talking about widows and, you know, Paul's like making a delineation between who's a true widow,
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like, who's trying to work the system and who actually needs help.
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And so I was just talking to our widows and I was like, "Man, I just can't imagine, you know."
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I mean, the Bible says that you are, you're joined together as one.
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And so to lose your spouse would be like losing half of your body, man.
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And, and I want, I don't, I want me in Gretchen to have a long life for sure.
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And I'm not saying I want her to die first.
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I don't mean it that way, but I want to take care of her every day of her life.
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I don't ever want her to have a day where she wakes up and wonders who's going to provide protect for her.
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I want to do that.
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And so I was talking about that and I got all choked up.
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So that was it.
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Oh, well, but then I cried since then.
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Oh, I cried yesterday hard.
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Yeah, it's sad.
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It's terrible.
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A guy in our church that works on her staff lost his wife in a car accident yesterday.
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Just kill her, man.
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It's terrible.
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And there, her, she's 30.
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I don't know.
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I'm probably two or three and her 12 year olds in the car and he survived, but I went to the hospital.
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He's going into surgery.
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I got to just care for this guy.
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It's two hours away to where they are.
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But you just show up, man.
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When you're in ministry, you just show up.
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And so hugged his neck and cried with him and prayed over his son going into surgery and then had to call her dad to he's part of our church and just tell them, I love them.
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I'm so sorry.
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So yeah, I'm not.
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I cry at those things and I can't help it, but yeah, I just cried with.
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Well, no really great way to transition out of that, but I'm glad you were there.
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I'm glad you were part of that.
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And I think most of the guys listen to this at some point you've been in that spot where you've been the one making the phone call or you were the first one to arrive or you, whatever.
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And I think there is a lot of benefit to stoicism, but sometimes we just have to weep with those who weep and, you know, you can still be a rock and share tears with people.
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So we'll leave that at that.
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So I want to move on to our first question.
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This is from Browning Eric Browning from the forging table.
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Good question here.
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What are your thoughts about scheduling sex with your wife?
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Is that a cop out for pursuit of her that makes you desirable to her?
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Or is it comparable to scheduling a weekly date night that you know she thrives on?
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So a lot of people talked about this to where it's like, well, no, you shouldn't do this ever because, you know, it takes all the spontaneity and all the fun out of it.
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And other people are like, look, if we don't schedule, it just doesn't happen and you and you schedule things that are important.
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So what are your thoughts?
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I would think there's probably not like a hard and fast rule, you know, that's applicable to everybody.
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So I'd be real careful with that.
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I think that's a conversation that you have with your wife.
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And if it comes across as serving her, you know, or being a gentle reminder for her because it's not on the top of her mind like it probably is yours.
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Then, yeah, sure.
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But if it is kind of an offensive thing or it doesn't go well, then I wouldn't push it.
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So I think it would be up there. There's nothing against it in and of itself.
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I would not say it's a bad thing.
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I think it depends on the individual couple and I think it's a great conversation to have.
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I mean, you know, my wife, she's great.
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She's like, there's just certain times of the day that I have a better shot than others.
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And she would just say that to me, you know, and so we don't have it like on the schedule.
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It's so funny, though, yesterday was our anniversary, our 21st anniversary.
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Congratulations, by the way, well done.
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We're sitting down at dinner and she just she just giggled and she can she said something like the look on your face.
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I can tell you have great expectations.
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I was just giggling because what I try not to do is place that kind of expectation on her all the time.
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But then generally, she knows that's a significant part of our marriage.
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And so if it's absent, that'd be a real problem.
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So I think you got to work that out between the two of you.
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Man, I don't know what's been in the water, but some about 2025, I guess,
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but I'm getting a lot more questions from some of the guys in my audience about sex.
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And and it's in here's not how the questions come in.
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The questions are not like, man, my wife, she's just not doing this and not doing that.
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She's not doing the, you know, if she would just do that, it's never that.
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It's hey, I don't really know what to do.
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I'm trying to support her.
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I'm trying to make her feel safe and I'm trying to, you know, unlock this, this passion
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that I've seen at some points in our marriage and when I see when she's been, you know,
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a neebriated or when I've seen, you know, in a past, you know, back when we were dating or whatever.
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And so I keep getting those questions and it all does come back to the pragmatic of how,
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like, how do we do that?
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Because it's one thing to be like, y'all just let the spirit move and let's, you know, you Ephesians five
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and you just let the spirit work on her heart.
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And it's like, that sounds good if you're a preacher, but if you're a dude
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and you're dying and you're in, because you mentioned that thing on a previous ask a pastor
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to where it's like, you know, a sex, the bedroom is like the thermostat of a marriage.
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And I was talking to a counselor the other day and he goes, Kyle, it was so funny because the way
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he said it, I don't think he meant it to be funny, but he's like, Kyle, there are people
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that probably shouldn't be married, but they are sexually compatible.
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So they make it work.
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So they disagree about money.
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They disagree about about time.
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They disagree about, you know, how to raise the kids, but they just get after it in the bedroom
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and it just covers all of those things.
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And people are like, well, that's, that's bad.
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That's not healthy.
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It's like, I don't know.
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I, it feels like it's kind of healthy.
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Working's working.
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Um, I would just negotiation is a key part of being married and it's not
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to negotiate to get what you want.
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It's saying, Hey, listen, here's who I am.
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I love you so much.
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It's not just physical for me.
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It's a really big deal.
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How can you give me some hints on how I can win?
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I mean, like seriously, is it times a day?
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Is it like the, the, uh, love language book?
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Is that a thing we need to leave leading back into?
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So like if I clean the house, that helps you feel like you don't have burdens.
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And you get, you know, but it in, in times when it's going good, you know,
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you're kind of in neutral.
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Everybody has a semi positive attitude.
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The house isn't on fire to just have these kinds of conversations about.
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And, and, and you enter into this sort of negotiation, not to get what you
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want, but to be able to serve one another better.
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Very good.
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All right.
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Let's get on to the next one.
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This is from a donor named Kevin.
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So Kevin, thank you so much for being a donor guys.
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If you want your question entered into the bank of questions for ask
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a pastor, you got to be a monthly donor.
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When it comes to forgiveness, I get it 70 times seven.
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I'm not keeping it tally until I reach 490.
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And that's not really what I'm asking to begin with.
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Are we called to forgive our brother?
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Even if they show no remorse or apologize for their action, I could write
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you a book on my wife's brother as a backstory.
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But the cliff notes are that he's a scumbag and I don't want anything to do
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with him, but she feels like she needs to maintain a relationship with
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them even though he spits in her face every chance he gets.
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Am I in the wrong?
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Or should I just keep my mouth shut and attempt to play nice?
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Forgiveness and reconciliation are not the same thing.
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And you're conflating your, the asker of the question is conflating
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those two.
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We are commanded to forgive others as much as Christ has forgiven you.
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So that means yes, it's a commandment.
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You forgive him and wrote a whole chapter in a book and tell me what
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you long to explain it, read it in grace train on how to forgive.
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Reconciliation requires two parties and confession and repentance must be a
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part of the equation, in my opinion, for reconciliation to happen.
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Thirdly, you might, you probably need to, as the husband and protector of your
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house talk about boundaries with your wife and how uncomfortable you
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are with her continually putting in herself in a position.
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I don't know what spits in her face means, but you're actually talking
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about three different things.
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So no, you don't necessarily have to play nice with this guy.
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Yes, you definitely have to forgive him.
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If somebody's spitting in my face in my wife's face, I don't care who it is.
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That ain't happening anymore and I'm having conversations about clear
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boundaries about how you're going to treat my people.
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And I determined how my household gets treated, including there was a
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family member of Gretchen's days after we got married and he started
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smoking fun of her and I was like, no, I talked to my wife that way.
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I don't care if you're her dad or not.
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Nobody talks to my wife that way.
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It would have been a little less awkward if I got up and peed in the punch
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bowl of the dinner we were having.
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It got weird.
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But guess what?
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My father and I were very, very close.
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He's a godly man.
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I love him.
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He had just had some habits as they were growing up.
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We're kind of like picking and fun.
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He thought communicated love and I could see on my wife's face.
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It did not.
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Nobody talks to my wife that way.
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She's my wife.
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So her brother and I have great in-laws.
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I have great my brother-in-laws.
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They're everybody's nice, but if they weren't, I would establish those
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boundaries and you have to forgive and you don't necessarily have to be
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reconciled if the other person does not position themselves for reconciliation.
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Something you told me very early on and one of our very earliest interactions
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because we were talking about somebody who demanded reconciliation with me
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and you're like, "Hi, you were never consiled with that person to begin with.
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So there is no such thing as reconciliation."
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But the other thing is true.
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And I think Mardress will help people out that actually listen to this part.
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But when he talks about when two become one flesh, when two people get married,
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everyone else becomes extended family.
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So the mother-in-law and father-in-law, they all mean well at the reception
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when they're like, "Oh, we're so glad to welcome a new son of the family
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or a new daughter to the family."
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It's like, "No, actually what has happened here is that a new family is formed
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and now all of us have become extended family."
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And so if you think about it in terms like that, there's no, from her perspective,
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she's like, "Well, no, that's just my brother.
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We got to just let him do that because he's my brother."
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And it's like, "No, it's affecting our household.
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It's affecting this main unit, this main marriage because you're allowing
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this to happen."
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And as a defender, you want to hop in and defend, but then the person's going
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to get mad that you're defending them to begin with.
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And so that's not healthy either.
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Yeah, and the wife makes then her brother all kind of grace for a long time.
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No problem, she can do that, but if it was, if it's in my house,
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I'm not letting somebody, I'm not letting somebody, any man talk to my wife
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that way in a way that demeans her.
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I'll call it out, just straight up.
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Yeah.
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And I mean, guys, again, if it's not in your personality to be super terse
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and super curt and all those types, things like I get it, but there are ways
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to bring it up to where it's like, look, this is unacceptable behavior.
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And guess what? It doesn't matter if you agree with my assessment because I
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win, like there are certain times and that's just the way that it goes.
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So the next question is for me because I've thought about this quite a bit.
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It's about sociopaths, psychopaths.
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And I mean, these are people that actually have sociopathy, actually have
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psychopathy.
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And so there's some form of they don't feel emotion.
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They don't feel remorse.
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These are people that whenever they torture an animal to death, they get
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somewhere between no feeling all the way up to sexual gratification from that.
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And then that extends out to some people that eventually take their
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psychopathy or sociopathy and they start, you know, hurting people.
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But statistically speaking, there's roughly 1% of the population of the
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planet are sociopathic, psychopathic.
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And if you talk to a clinical psychologist, they say these people are not
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rehabble, right?
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They don't go talk to, you know, shrink for, you know, a few months or
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sit on a couch and tell you about their childhood and all of a sudden
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they're fixed.
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There is no way to rehab these people, but then I've, okay, that's
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what the clinical people that have studied this and have the PhDs.
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That's what they say.
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But then I think about, well, what about the gospel?
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What about election?
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What about all these different things?
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I'm like, okay, we're, you know, these, these sociopaths, psychopaths.
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Were these people that were never going to be able to understand grace
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anyway, because they don't even understand the motion and they just
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weren't on the team that got selected before time to be, you know, the
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monster's of, of, of heaven and all that type of stuff.
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Like I just, I'm really struggling with how to think about people
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like that because when you see a serial killer in prison that gets
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saved and then you have other serial killers that are like, literally,
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we can't have this person around any other inmates because they're so
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manipulative.
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They're so violent and they just can't be rehabbed and they certainly
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can't be put back in polite society ever.
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I don't think there's anyone beyond the saving grace of Jesus period.
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I think a lot of what you're talking about to that you, you know,
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we would describe in psychological terms, uh, there's some demonic
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things going on there.
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I mean, when people derive pleasure from taking out other image
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bearers of God, that is not of God.
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It's not even in normal created order, right?
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There is, there is some dark demonic going on there and a lot of
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those psychologists that might be true just in and of the realm that
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they know of, but we know there's a greater realm with a greater
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causality behind it and God can save and transform whoever he wants.
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In fact, one of our campuses is at the prison in Florida that
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houses all the death row inmates.
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And so we, we constantly find murderers and serial killers
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that come to know Christ through the preaching of the gospel.
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That also doesn't mean though that just because God saved their
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heart that they need to be let out in this world.
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So I do think I'm way out over my skis on this next part.
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I have no, I don't know what I'm talking about, but there seems
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to be something wrong with our society when we close down all the,
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all the loony bins that had the crazy people locked up.
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And I think we probably overdid that, but then we over corrected
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by shutting them all down and just letting these people, uh, as
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if health and rehab was the only option.
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Some, some people for whatever reason, something's not working and
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they don't work in a society.
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And for the good of normal, decent people, they do not need to have
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the same freedoms that everybody else does.
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Um, but in regards to salvation, there's nobody too far gone, man.
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God can save whoever, but that doesn't mean that doesn't mean
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though, somebody confesses Christ to savior and therefore they should
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be let out and, you know, there's some temptations they've made
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They chopped up their body eight, their eyeball, eight parts of
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their brains, eight parts of their organs.
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They were caught, but they were deemed too insane to go to prison.
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And so they were sent to an insane asylum, but then some woke
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psychologist decides, oh, this person has been rehabilitated
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and they've assured me that if they ever get a craving again and
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that is for the, you know, the consumption of human flesh that
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they'll call us, right?
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That they'll give us a call.
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They gave me, they gave, they pinky swore essentially.
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And so it's like in one of those situations, it's like, okay,
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if that person is all are crazy, great.
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Now send them to prison, right?
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Now you get to sit in prison for forever because, you know, you
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murdered somebody, chopped them up and then ate them.
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And so I think about that guy and I'm like, okay, I believe in
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the gospel and I believe a counselor, everybody, but that's
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one of those hard cases where people are like, eh, I don't
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really know.
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So here we go.
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Next question.
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This is from Jake Winkler, the largest of all forging
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tables.
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He says in relation to John 3 16, which most of us know at this
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point, what was so lovable about the world that God would
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want to save it?
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I think that it's his creation.
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So his fingerprints are still on it.
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A way to think about the word image would be like a mirror,
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you know, so image bearers was like a mirror.
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And then when sin came along, it fractured the mirror.
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So God can still see his image reflected back to him even in
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a broken world.
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And for his own glory, it was the best for him to redeem that.
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And so he's going to at one point in the consummation of all
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things cast sin and Satan into the lake of fire forever and
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ever and ever.
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And all things will be restored to glorify him fully and holy.
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So it's really what God sees.
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It's not that the world was so lovable that God is love and
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place this love on it.
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Not that we earned it or deserved it, but we are a reflection
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of the creation of God.
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And that's what makes it redeemable to begin with.
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All right, very good.
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Nice and tight answer there.
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So let's go on to an 11 22er who's also a donor.
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So this is from Isaac and we know he's 11 22er because of how
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he starts out.
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My name is Isaac and we go to church together lately at work.
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I have come into many conversations with either a Lutheran
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converting Catholic or a Catholic seeking the truth.
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The research I've done on the Catholic theology versus the
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Protestant or reform theology is that Catholics seem to elevate
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apostolic traditions over scripture.
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My question is when it comes to communion, these other men
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believe that the wine actually becomes Jesus's blood and the
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bread actually becomes Jesus's body.
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We know from scripture that Jesus said, unless you drink my
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blood and eat my flesh, you have no part with me.
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Now, I know and in the Bible, communion is a remembrance of
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the gospel and what Jesus did for us on the cross.
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How does one go about discussing or dissecting the scripture
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saying unless you eat the eat of my flesh and drink of my blood,
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you have no part with me.
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How can I shed light on this for me and for others?
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Well, I mean, Jesus also said, unless you take up your cross
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and follow him, you cannot be his disciple.
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So did have any of us actually been crucified?
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No.
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So the key thing in talking to a Catholic is the conversation
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also all often goes to the secondary issue of trans
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substantiation and the primary issue of communion is Catholic
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doctrine teaches that the reason that you do the sacrament is
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to position yourself to be able to receive grace and that you're
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not saved by faith alone.
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In fact, the council of Trent says to be saved by grace alone
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through faith alone is an anathema.
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That means damned to hell that in order for you to be saved,
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you have to do things in communion.
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The Lord's table is one of those things.
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That's the conversation to have because that is where the
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Catholic teaching is wrong.
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It's not gospel.
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It's Jesus plus the Catholic sacraments as appointed not by
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the scriptures, but by some guys and funny hats that get
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together and have meetings every couple hundred years and they
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do not have authority over what God's word is.
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That's the conversation that you want to have the gospel
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conversation and where and the authority conversation to get
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dragged down into trans substantiation is a secondary
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issue.
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It could turn into blood and flesh or it might not turn into
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blood and flesh, but whether it does or not does it.
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It has no, it doesn't determine whether you have received
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salvation by grace alone through faith alone.
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So keep the conversation on the gospel and on the authority
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of the word of God.
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That is where you need to have the conversation.
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And Jesus said, Jesus said, eat my flesh, drink my blood and
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nobody did it there.
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Nobody did it.
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And yet all a bunch of those all those disciples got saved.
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On the Catholic question, obviously, I've spoken about
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Pope Francis on the show quite a bit.
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I mean, he's in bad health right now as we record this.
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So by the time this comes out, he could be out of the woods
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or it could be curtains for him.
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I'm not sure.
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But you know, the question that I always posed to Catholics
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and they kind of obfuscate is it's like, okay, let's say the
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Pope says something out loud that's recorded, whether the
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Vatican has to walk about later, which they normally do,
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but he says something that is contrary to what we see in
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Scripture who wins.
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And they don't like the question.
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And so they changed the question.
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Right.
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So Pope Francis has said those things in the Vatican the next day,
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which doesn't get the headlines.
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They they walk back and they say, well, no, according to this
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and according to that, and according to the catechism,
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according to that, that's not what we're doing.
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But it's like he's your highest authority.
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You've given this one man outsized authority and they they
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literally believe in a succession line that goes all the way
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back to Peter and I ask them, it's like guys, so you're telling
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me some of these popes that were corrupt and gay and, you know,
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that send people off to war and they knew it was just for their
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own personal gain, all these different guys through history
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that those all were were God's chosen people.
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And then they want to go like, well, wasn't David a murderer
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and a rapist and wasn't it?
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You know, this person bad in the Old Testament.
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I'm like, guys, come on.
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Like I just don't really know what to go because man, it's
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just the goalpost just move all over the place.
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Well, I mean, you know, like Martin Luther, any good Catholic
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to start reading their Bible, particularly the book of Romans
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or all of a sudden going to have a whole bunch of, hey, I got to
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scratch my head.
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Can you explain this?
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Like, why do we talk about?
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Why does the Catholic Church say this?
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But the Bible says that and then the answer it comes back
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to authority because some guys that worked at the Catholic
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Church said their opinion of what was going to happen in the
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Catholic Church is at least on Paul on par and maybe in
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authority over what the reveal word of God is.
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That's the fundamental distinction is authority.
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Our authority is the Bible.
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Even if we disagree about what this means, what we do agree
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is that the word of God is the final authority.
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Their final authority is three things that are supposed to be
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co-equal, the pope, church history and the scriptures.
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But so, you know, that's the fundamental problem.
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And then the, and then the problem with that is throughout
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church history, they have added to the gospel.
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They do not believe that righteousness is imparted to you.
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They think, or they don't think that that it is transferred to
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you, that you do things to position yourself to stay in a
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state of grace so that you might receive grace, which is a
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works based righteousness.
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Yeah, it becomes problematic when you start peeling back the
25:36
layers of the onions.
25:36
So, all right, we'll run out of time.
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So I got one more question.
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And right from the beginning, I stole this from a podcast that
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stole it from another podcast.
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I don't know who got it, but you know, it's an interesting
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thought experiment.
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Okay, so let's say right now, Joey, that there were a giant
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bull in front of you.
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And that bull had a thousand grapes in it.
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Okay, so just think like you get some grapes like you're not
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even getting a hundred grapes, a thousand grapes.
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That's a bunch of grapes.
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It's a huge bull in front of you.
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Now, for every grape that you eat, you're going to get $50,000.
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Okay.
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So every grape you eat, you get 50 grand.
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There's just one catch.
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One of those grapes is poisoned.
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And if you eat it, you will 100% die.
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It's not like you'll get really, really sick, explosive
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diarrhea.
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You got a thousand of them.
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One random one is a cyanide grape.
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How many of the grapes are you going to eat?
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Zero.
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Yeah, you wouldn't do like three, four grapes, you know, help
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pay for the state.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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No problem.
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I'm not rich, but we live well beyond our means.
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And one of the freest things in the world is to bring
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God your first and best and then have plenty to live on.
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And I'm not a money guy.
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I'm not just.
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I'm just if let's say I ate 10, if you gave me $200,000 right
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now, it would change my life zero.
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What am I going to do?
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I just can put it in the bank, tithe on it, pay my bills, drive
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my same truck, well, if you ate 10, that'd be half a million.
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You know, still have it.
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Yeah.
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No, no, no, I wouldn't because and then I'm not going to risk my
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relationship with my wife, my relationship with my kids and my
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relationship with my church over an amount of money.
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A Joe beat.
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You ride motorcycles.
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You like living on the edge.
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You would just do one.
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Great.
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Just I just kind of run through and just pop one and great.
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But maybe you're risking your role in the dice every time you
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roll around on that stupid bicycle with a motor.
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It's stupid.
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It's cool.
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It's real cool.
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Yeah, it's cool to ride in the parking lot.
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Then you get on the highway when people are texting as they're
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putting on lipstick, driving down the road.
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I wrote four hours yesterday to and from Gainesville, Florida,
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back for itself.
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Oh, good.
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Here I am.
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That is, uh, that is not a gamble.
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You know, that is not a gamble.
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No, well, in as much as getting in your truck and driving is,
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is to, you know, it's a calculated risk for sure.
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I mean, you could, you know, live in the doors and just never
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leave and, but it's a, it's a calculated risk.
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That's different than just gambling for money and the, it's
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all risk will reward is the juice worth the squeeze.
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Well, if the squeeze is my life, nah, I'm good.
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Is that pun intended?
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Great juice.
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There it is.
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There it is.
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The blood of Christ communion.
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Did you just bring it off full circle?
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That's it.
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Put a bow on it.
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Guys, we're putting a bow on this episode.
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I'm not even going to say goodbye.
28:18
We're just going to stop it.
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