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This is Undaunted Life Man's Podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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If that is not the way you learned Christ, assuming that you have heard about him and
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were taught in him as the truth is in Jesus, to put off your old self, which belongs to
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your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires and to be renewed
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in the spirit of your minds and to put on the new self created after the likeness of God
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in true righteousness and holiness.
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That is Ephesians 4, 20 through 24.
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That doesn't connect anything I'm going to be talking about today, but it's just awesome
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to get that as a reminder because today we are getting to your questions.
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If you're doing an AMA, ask me anything, but before you get there, just wanted to give
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We do not take you for granted.
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But we're doing AMA today.
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We're doing ask me anything.
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Let's get into the first question here, a two part question for your AMA.
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Do you feel the debate between Calvinism and Armenianism is strictly collegial, or is
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it salvific in nature?
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The second part is do you feel the same about the debate between Protestants and Catholics?
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Okay.
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So let's go to the first one.
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Obviously we've talked about Calvinism and Armenianism a lot on the forging table.
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We have a few guys, Matt and Ryan, they would find themselves in the Calvinist camp.
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And so everyone else is not really there.
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We can get down with some of the parts of tulip, but not some of the other parts I've
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talked about before, that limited atonement makes no sense to me in terms of my read of
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scripture.
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There are Calvinists out there, not Ryan and not Matt, that seem to be worshiping at
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the altar of Calvin.
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And so they seem to be more a fan of Calvin than they are of Jesus in a lot of ways.
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And again, some of the reform guys and Calvinist guys can get over their skis, but when it
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comes to the whole Calvinism versus Armenianism thing, I don't think it's salvific at all.
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I really don't.
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I think you could have, you could have put your faith in Christ for their propitiation
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of your sins where he pays off your sin debt and you could repent of your sins and believe
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things that are wrong theologically.
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So you might think Calvinism is wrong theologically and you might be able to defend that.
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You might think Armenianism or any other type of way of thinking about theology, which
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is, you know, the study of God, you could think about those things and be incorrect.
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But at the same time, you could have put your faith in Christ for the payment of your sin
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debt and repented of your sins because according to scripture, according to what we see in
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the New Testament, that's what it takes to be a Christian.
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And that really leads into the discussion about Protestantism versus Catholicism as well,
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because I think that when guys like John MacArthur higher respect deeply, who I've talked about
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a lot of times on this podcast about how much I respect the man, I think when he says things
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like all Catholics are going to hell, it's like, bro, what are you doing?
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All of them, you're telling me that as a category that if you are Catholic, if you go to a Catholic
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church, if you go to mass, instead of a Protestant worship service, that you're definitely going
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to hell that it's an apostate religion.
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Now, there are some massive problems with Catholicism because again, they don't just look to the
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scripture for their answers, they look to the church fathers, they look to church tradition,
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and that's kind of where they get everything and kind of they kind of mangled altogether
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to get their doctrine.
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But to say that there are no Catholics that have put their faith in Christ for the propitiation
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of their sins and have repented from their sins, I think is absurd.
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It's dogmatically terrible to say a thing like that.
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So to answer this question, and so we can move on to the next one, Calvinism versus Armenian
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ism, Protestantism for versus Catholicism.
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Yes, there are some definite things where it's like, here's a line that you can't cross,
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there are certain things that are binary, but it's not most of the things that people
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treat it as.
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So there are Calvinists in our meaniness that treat that as if it is a salvation issue.
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There are young earth and older people that treat that as if it's a salvation or salvific
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issue and just simply not.
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All right.
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Next question here, is there a sorry, is there good in being proud?
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What is the root of all sin, but is it good to have pride in your abilities, knowing they
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are God given or is all pride bad?
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Humility seems to be a hard goal to achieve.
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So it's interesting that you asked this question because this year, that's been something
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that I've been focusing on because as I've talked about, we had a ton of momentum coming
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into 2024.
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I mean, that interview that day with my Glover really shot us to the moon number two in our
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category on Spotify, top 150 overall out of over five and a half million podcasts as of
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January of 2023.
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So you know, a year ago, there were five and a half million, 5.5 million podcasts on Spotify.
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We were in the top one 50, like that's insane, right?
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So it'd be very easy for me to start patting myself on the back a lot and thinking, man,
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you really got to going on, you know, you Hey, if you too, if you can grow red beard and
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wear black VNX like me all the time, you two can be just a successful like, and it could
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get that way.
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I've been praying for a lot of humility because I'm getting a lot of speaking inquiries and
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I'm getting it from people that frankly don't have the means or really the plan to bring
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in a national speaker like me to come and speak at their thing.
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I'm getting invitations to go on other people's podcasts.
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And I'm even having people that are like, Hey, I haven't launched my podcast yet, but
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I think I'm going to launch it in February.
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So it's like, well, you think you're going to do it?
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Are you going to actually do it?
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And I want you to be my first guest.
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And so it's like, in my head, it's like, okay, so you want me to give you an hour of my time
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that I can't get back so that I can give my message to your non-existent audience.
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I mean, that's kind of hard for me to kind of work through, but I'm trying to, you know,
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work through that, that continuum of humility to pride, but to get back to the question,
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I can see an argument for how pride is the root of all sin.
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But to say that, I just think it's our broken sin nature that leads to pride, which is one
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of the sins, I don't know that it's the root of all sins, but you might be able to defend
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that.
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But I think you're thinking about it categorically a little bit differently because I think you
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should have pride in your abilities because they are God given.
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I think that's a great point.
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So if you are tall and long and lean, athletic, and you can jump and you have good touch and
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you become a professional basketball player, well, you didn't tall yourself.
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You know what I mean?
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If you didn't just sit in a room and concentrate really hard until you became 6 foot 10, like
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you didn't do that, God gave that to you as a gift.
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Now there are people that are tall that suck at sports.
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So their gift is just, hey, at a concert, you're never going to have an obstructed view.
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You know, that's going to be their thing.
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But your skills and abilities, especially the immutable things about you that you can
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change, yeah, I think it's okay to have pride in that, but to not act in a prideful way.
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I think, I think you should be proud of the way that you were made.
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Like when people are like, you know, there's this whole, I don't see color debate going
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on where, like, if you tell someone, hey, I don't see color, you'll have people say,
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oh, that's great.
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That's so progressive of you.
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And then another person right next to him might say, oh, are you not seeing my skin color
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and you're not really understanding the plight I've had living in this country?
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But here's the thing that I would tell people, whatever you look like.
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So whatever your natural look is your natural height, your natural hair color, natural eye
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color, natural skin tone, natural, all those things.
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Those are a gift from God.
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Because if we all look the exact same, it'd be pretty boring.
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I'm going to be real honest with you.
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They wouldn't be that interesting to live in a world like that.
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And so it's like, no, you shouldn't have white pride or black pride or green eyed people
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pride or blonde hair pride.
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I don't think that that's the thing.
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But just know that the things that God gave you were given to you for a reason and you
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should be proud of that.
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Don't act pridefully.
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Don't act as if you were better than others.
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But sure, be pride, be proud.
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All right.
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Next question here.
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If attacked by squirrels, how many could you kill before they overtake you?
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So I remember when I got this question, like I just remember laughing and being like, God,
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my audience is just like absolutely ridiculous.
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But then I've been obsessed with this question.
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I've been like thinking through that scenario in my head a bunch because I've never had
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like a hands on interaction with a squirrel, right?
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So I got to take a lot of assumptions here.
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So I'm assuming it's not just one squirrel that I have to take care of and then a minute
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later, another squirrel, I'm assuming the person that asked this question, I'm, you
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know, taking some license here, I'm assuming that person thinks it's like a whole bunch
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of squirrels attacking me at the same time.
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Now squirrels are small.
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They've got sharpish teeth or they can use them sharply.
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They don't weigh very much.
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They're not very big.
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So I don't know, man, I feel like if a bunch of them attacked me all at the same time that
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they could get me maybe before I kill any of them, because just think about it.
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It's like, I go go back to like, what is it, the movie, the mummy back in the day where
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all those beetles crawled in that guile at once, it's like, if you can't like take care
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of one of them at a time because you're you're dealing with all of them.
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So maybe I'm breaking this question down like way too scientifically here, but I'm really
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thinking through the scenario like, what if I find myself in a post post apocalyptic squirrel
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world where I have to defend myself or defend my family?
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How many of I can take out?
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So I'm going to say I could take out at least 50 before they overtake me.
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Is that too many?
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Is that too few?
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I got to be honest, I've never seen a squirrel attack anybody.
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So I'm just going to stick with 50 or put the over under at 50 and a half.
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And so I'll be taking bets.
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You can put them in our donation page on our website.
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How about that?
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All right.
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Next question here.
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I recently found your podcast and have been listening to it almost daily.
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I'm a 19 year old who has recently been struggling on knowing what career path to take.
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I know that any decisions that I make will ultimately affect the rest of my life.
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And I do not want to make the wrong one.
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I was just wondering if you could speak to this on your podcast or have any resources
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that you could recommend.
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So some of you probably smiled or maybe giggled a little bit during this question because
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it's coming from a 19 year old.
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And so I don't want to be dismissive because I actually did respond to this guy.
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Back to any of you other youngins listening to this, I know there's some teenagers listening
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to this.
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We're so thankful for you.
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This is the age where you can make some mistakes.
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Now, I don't mean criminal mistakes because one criminal mistake may may pretty much end
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your life.
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It'll certainly end your freedom, but when it comes to your profession, when it comes
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to your career, make a bunch of mistakes at this age, what you don't want to do is make
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a bunch of mistakes at like in your 40s or 50s.
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So I'm not like super proud this is just the way the cookie crumbled.
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But again, I graduated top of my class in my undergrad and top of my class and my graduate
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degree.
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But in the first 10 years of my career, I counted them up the other day and the first
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10 years of my career, I had 11 different jobs, everything from selling insurance to
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mowing lawns to selling coupon books door to door, which was awful.
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And I just had a bunch of random jobs here and there some part time, some full time.
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And it's just kind of the way the cookie crumbled for me.
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And now I'm doing this.
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And this is where I feel like I'm most over the X.
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And so one thing that I did, especially in my financial planning days, I would see people
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in their late fifties, mid to late fifties, and they were like switching jobs again.
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And I would talk to them about their lives and their career and that's just been their
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entire life.
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They did a job for two or three years.
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Oh, this isn't really serving my needs.
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They would go to do the next job and then they'd go to do the next job and they built
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this career where they never actually got ahead because they kept hitting the reset
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button.
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They thought they were making lateral moves, but actually they were just starting back
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over from the bottom.
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And so you just don't want to be that person.
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So I think it is a very good idea for you to think through, okay, what are my skill sets?
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What are the things that I'm naturally good at?
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What are the things that I like to do?
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What am I passionate about?
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And where do all those things overlap?
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Because there are people that are very passionate about singing that can't sing.
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They weren't gifted with a beautiful singing voice.
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And so it doesn't matter how hard they work out if they will not become a successful singer.
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That's just not going to be in the cards for them.
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And then there are people that have a particular skill set.
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Maybe they're good with numbers, but they're not passionate about it.
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Like the thought of waking up and staring at spreadsheets all day for 10 hours a day
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for the rest of their lives until they retire doesn't really sound appealing to them.
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Because they probably shouldn't go towards that.
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But for all of us, there is God's given mandate for us to have a particular level of dominion
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over a particular sphere of creation.
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So whether you're working in a factory or you're a farmer or you're a counselor or you're
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a teacher or you're a fireman or a CEO, you have skill sets that God has put in you already
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that He will help you get better at if you go towards that direction.
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And so to the 19 year old here or to anybody else that's listening to this that's kind
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of in that, just understand that you don't, you could get a degree in something that you
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never use and it not be that big of a deal.
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Most of the most successful people that I know guys that have college degrees, their
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degree has nothing at all to do with what they ended up doing.
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Now some of them do like they, they went to school and they got their CPA and now they're
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a CPA.
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They're like a, you know, they're certified public accountant.
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Great.
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They needed to do that.
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Some of them are lawyers.
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They needed to go to undergrad and then they needed to go to law school and pass the bar
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and now they're an attorney.
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But for a lot of people like me, I got a communication degree.
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So you could say, well, you're communicating right now, but yeah, mine was in corporate
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communication.
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That's certainly not what I'm doing.
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Some people are getting a degree in history and then they're going and working in sales
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or they're getting a degree in sales and going and working in a, you know, corporate
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advancement.
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I mean, there's all these different things that you could do.
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Just don't put too much pressure on yourself right now.
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Like you're 19 years old.
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I'm assuming you're not married and I'm assuming that you don't have kids.
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And so you can make some dumb mistakes.
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Don't be done with your money.
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Make sure you save your money.
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Make sure you're pointing yourself in the right direction and just make sure you find
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yourself over the X or where you think God needs you to be.
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All right.
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Next question here.
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Going back any dead musician, who would it be and why this is easy and this one's going
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to be quick.
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Some of you already knew this is coming.
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Give me back Johnny Cash.
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Okay.
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That's who I want actually give me back 37 year old Johnny Cash.
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So he can be the same age as me.
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And so we can kind of work our way through the next several decades of our life.
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Just hearing his stories and listening to his music.
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He's one of the greatest artists of all time.
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I want him back.
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All right.
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Next one here.
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Tobacco, alcohol and tattoos, all things I've seen you partake in.
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All deemed sinful by the church I grew up in was my church wrong.
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If so, why and how do I relearn my ingrained convictions and biases, basically prejudices
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against them?
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Okay.
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So here's the thing with tobacco, alcohol and tattoos.
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If you don't want to have any part of any of those things because that's what you feel
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convicted to do, sure, go for it.
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I don't care.
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If you want to partake in those things, sure, I don't care.
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Those take them all one by one, so tobacco, obviously, if you're smoking cigarettes, that
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is a horrifically stupid thing to do that I can't believe anybody any it does anymore.
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And the direct line between doing that action and cancer, which is destructive to your body,
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the only body that was given to you, a body that Jesus sacrificed his body for, that's
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a bad thing.
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But cigars is not the same.
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So some people think they're the same, but they're not cigarettes.
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You inhale into your lungs before you expel the smoke back out.
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Cigars, you can't really do that.
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And so when I, back in my insurance days, I remember having to ask the question about
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tobacco use, but it was always delineated.
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So if you had ever dipped, which is terrible, or smoked cigarettes, like if you had done
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that once in the last two years, you had to be put down on the application as a tobacco
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user once, if you smoked one cigarette in the last two years and took one dip, one snuff,
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and chew in tobacco, one thing you were a tobacco user, but you could have up to 24 cigars
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a year to a month and not be considered a tobacco user.
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Why?
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Because it's not the same.
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They're not created equal.
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So I think you need to honor God with your body.
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I don't think smoking cigars is deleterious of your body.
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Then we have alcohol.
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So I did an entire episode actually.
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Let me go.
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You're about to hear my incredibly loud keyboard.
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I'm going to actually find what episode I covered alcohol on on the show because it was really
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early on.
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And okay, Christianity and alcohol episode 57, good grief.
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What was I even talking about back then?
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That was one of the first episodes of 2019.
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So episode 57 Christianity and alcohol.
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So go back and check that one out.
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I go into a big long thing about that.
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There's a lot of different ways of looking at it, but no, as a category, drinking alcohol
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is not sinful.
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Drunkenness is sinful.
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Then we get into tattoos.
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So a lot of old school people think that tattoos are wrong.
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They point to things in Leviticus about marking your bodies and all that.
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But again, if you just look at the text without context, it's just text and without getting
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into a big, long exegete of the tattoo scriptures and things like that, when it's talking about
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marking the body, these were pagans that were marking their bodies as a service to the pagan
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gods that they were serving.
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It's not the same as you getting a tattoo of Jesus or getting a tattoo of something that
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you think looks cool or even a tribal, if that's your thing, do people still get tribal tattoos?
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Pray for you if you do.
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But anyway, those things in and of themselves are not bad.
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Now if you get a vulgar tattoo or a tattoo of like a demon or something like that or the
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Enneagram or something like that on your arm, then yeah, that's a problem.
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You don't need to be doing that.
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In terms of you relearning the ingrained convictions, well, if you need to relearn, if you feel
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like maybe you were brought up and those things were said, they were sinful as categories
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and you don't believe that anymore, well, then just change your mind.
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It's okay to change your mind.
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I've changed my mind on tons of things.
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There were things that I literally thought I could not be convinced otherwise of and
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I was convinced otherwise.
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And this is one of those things.
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It's just a matter of conviction that if you feel that it's not good for you or it wouldn't
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be good for the people around you, for you to get tattoos or drink alcohol or smoke any
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type of tobacco product whatsoever, then don't do it.
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Like you don't need to have this, you know, internal consternation about it.
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Hey guys, real quick.
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If you're anything like me, you are constantly on the lookout for high quality products that
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are actually made here in America by American hands.
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The problem is that a lot of American companies have outsourced their labor overseas.
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So it's an American company, but it's supporting people that don't live here.
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So I've always went to partner with an American company that prioritizes America, American
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workers, and making all of their materials here in this country.
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That's why I want to remind you that we are partnered with Origin.
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Origin is an apparel company based in Maine and they are focused on getting as much manufacturing
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back to the United States as they can possibly do.
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What do they make?
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They make the best jujitsu geese on the planet.
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And these are the only jujitsu geese that are made completely in America.
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They also make jeans, yes, they're stretchy and awesome.
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They also make amazing hunting gear.
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And I know you guys love your kuyu and your sicca, but those companies use overseas labor
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and they don't do that to help you guys out.
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They do that to increase their profit margins.
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Origin also makes boots and work boots.
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And yes, that does include still toe boots and in the fall of last year, they launched
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a line of everyday clothing, their Versa pants are their everyday pants and they are just
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especially phenomenal.
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They also make other outdoor clothes and workout clothes and they're launching new apparel
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All right.
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Next question here.
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What do you think about Nick Saban retiring?
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Is he the college football coaching goat?
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So here's the thing, I'll start with the second one at the very beginning.
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He's clearly the college football goat.
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Like in terms of coaching, like how is this even a debate?
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Like in my opinion, no one is even close to Nick Saban.
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So I don't want to hear about Bear Bryant.
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Don't tell me about Barry Switzer, Tom Osborne, you know, Woody Hayes, Bud Wilkinson, like,
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you know, Urban Meyer, like, don't give me any of these coaches, okay?
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Because just in the counting stats, I think what a Bear Bryant win, three, four national
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titles.
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Well, Nick Saban has seven, okay, one at LSU and then six at Alabama.
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But in his tenured Alabama, I think it was their 17 years, he wins six titles.
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But the crazier thing about it, because yeah, you know, you had to win any one during the
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college football playoff era and the BCS era, like that's all that's great.
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But I think almost every single year that he coached Alabama, the team was number one
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at one point during the year.
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That's crazy.
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And if you look at the last 17 years and you just look at the SEC, has there been a more
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dominant time period for the SEC or for any conference in the history of college football?
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So the ubiquity of talent now is way higher than it was when, you know, I can't remember
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the, there's a Minnesota, University of Minnesota head coach back in the day that I think won
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three or four titles back in like the thirties or forties or something.
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It's like they were probably like the fastest guy in the country was probably running like
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a five, four, 40, right?
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And so the ubiquity of the incredible talent now, especially coming out of States like
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Texas and Florida and Ohio and Pennsylvania and California, it's insane, recruiting is
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insane.
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But the SEC is the name brand for college football, not the big 12, not the ACC, obviously, not
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the pack 10, not the big 10 or a pack 12 or big 10, like none of these conferences have
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what the SEC has.
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And so like around here, everyone's excited for OU in Texas to go to the SEC and it's
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like be careful what you get excited about, be careful what you wish for because OU goes
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from playing Oklahoma State one week in Kansas, the next and Iowa State after that in Texas
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Tech after that.
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Now, it's like, well, you play Bama this week, then you play Georgia, then you play LSU,
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then you play Mizzou, like, it's like a murderer's row and during that time period, Nick Saban
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dominated, Florida had a little flare up with the Tim Tebow and in urban Meyer, and then
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that went away, trying to think, you know, LSU won a title in there, they probably had
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the best college football team of all time, frankly, back in 2019, I think it was 2019.
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So LSU had a little flare up, you know, Georgia won a couple in a row, they should have been
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in the college football playoff this year.
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But the, the most dominant in the entire conference of, you know, the most dominant conference
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in the country was Bama year in and year out.
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It's just absolutely incredible.
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So he's easily the college football go in terms of coaching, but he's actually in that
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conversation for just best coach of all time, regardless of sport.
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So he's the best coach for college football, best Major League Baseball manager of all
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time is Tony LaRusso when it comes to the X's and O's winning World Series as in, in both
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the AL and the NL, he's the top NBA, it's Phil Jackson, college basketball, if you're
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an old school guy, it's John Wooden, if you're a new school guy, it's coach K, you know, I
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think coach K, what he did winning, I think four championships is almost more impressive
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than what John Wooden did with the, you know, nine or 10 that he won, because back then
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there wasn't the ubiquity of talent when John Wooden was winning and when coach K was winning
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these titles, you just the sheer number of teams that they had to beat and the tournaments
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they had to win was crazy.
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And the NFL, you've got Vince Lombardi, you know, I don't know what you would say for
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the NHL or any of these other sports.
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But I think you have a really, really good argument considering the competition, considering
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the conference, considering how hard it is to crude to recruit players and to keep players
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and injuries and all these different things and staff and, you know, constantly having
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people in your staff get coaching jobs somewhere else, you're coaching trees super wide, but
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then you keep losing that talent.
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I think there is a tremendous conversation to say that Nick Saban is not just the college
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football, greatest coach of all time, but the greatest coach of all time, regardless
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of sport anywhere.
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So that's my thoughts on that.
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All right.
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Next question here.
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What are five things you'd recommend or have personally seen as successful in making
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a church man friendly?
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So I won't spend a lot of time on this, but when I got this question, I just jotted down
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the first five things that came to mind.
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But if I'm looking for a church that is man friendly, one of the first things I'm looking
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for is expository preaching instead of Ted talks, because Ted talks get you away from
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the source of truth was whereas expository preaching is literally preaching the truth.
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It's more mainly than capital T truth.
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The second is make sure the volunteer opportunities prioritize men.
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Notice I didn't say make sure that volunteer opportunities involve men.
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No, no, prioritize men, because when the men are volunteering, the women and children will
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be right there behind them.
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Look for a church that is allowing them in to lead.
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A third is that Psalms and hymns are sung as opposed to modern contemporary Christian music.
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Now this one again is just kind of like a little bit of a preference thing for me.
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But when you just read, so take take the smoke machines away, take the different harmonies
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away, take the the instruments away or whatever, take the sound machine away and you just read
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the Psalms and hymns versus reading the lyrics of contemporary Christian music.
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It's not even comparable.
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It's absurdly not comparable.
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So and think about the voices that you hear when a contemporary Christian music song is
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being sung versus when a song or a hymn is being sung in a church with a bunch of dudes that
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don't mind getting down and singing to God.
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So that's another one.
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The fourth one I would say is a church that has plans to activate their men when needed.
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So this is kind of attached to the second one in terms of volunteer opportunities, but
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a lot of churches don't have an activation plan.
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So I live in Oklahoma.
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So tornadoes are a thing and unfortunately we do have some violent tornadoes that destroy
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property and lives.
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And the thing is, I love seeing when churches have a shed out back that's full of chainsaws
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because in Oklahoma, when all these streets fall down in their own houses and, you know,
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it's a day or two after and these people are trying to pick up what's left of their their
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property and their possessions and things like that.
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You know what I love seeing because this happened during the last big, you know, F five turn
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a tornado that we had here about a decade ago is I just saw dudes showing up with chainsaws.
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And I showed up with the chainsaw, but I was solo.
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I had a couple of guys with me, but you know, it was just like me and a couple of buddies,
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but I saw people that were coming from churches and it's five or six dudes with chainsaws
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and they were ready to get after it.
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They weren't being paid.
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They just showed up.
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They saw a tree down, you know, in a particular area.
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They start cutting up the tree and putting it in a pile.
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So it's easier to get out of there.
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But churches that have a plan to activate their men, maybe you, you live on the East Coast
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and hurricane seasons, one of those things and you have a plan in place for the men in
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your church that are getting it get after it kind of dudes.
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So those are going to be the dudes are going to go over to the widows house and board up
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her windows for or afterwards go and make sure that she's checked on and things like
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that.
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But they have a plan in place that activates their men.
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So that's a fourth one and a, in a fifth one, again, that's not an exhaustive list.
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It's just the first five I could think of is making sure that the lead pastor or preacher
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isn't soft.
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And I mean that in a lot of different ways, because sometimes you go to a church and it's
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just like, Oh, that guy is just soft as tissue, it's pudgy, he's got soft hands.
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He's talking about the softer parts of scripture.
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He's not demanding anything of anybody.
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He's more teacher, less preacher.
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He's not demanding that, you know, discipleship be a part of what's going on.
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He's kind of a go along to get a long guy.
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He's, I want to be known for what I'm for, not what I'm, I'm not what I'm against type
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of a guy.
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And man, that's just a hard guy to follow because shepherd is leading his flock.
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But the flock gets to choose whether or not that they're led by them.
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They just get to choose that, right?
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And so those are just five that I'll put off top of my head.
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I'll list them again.
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Expository preaching instead of TED talks, making sure the volunteer opportunities prioritize
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men, Psalms and hymns as opposed to modern contemporary Christian music, having plans
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to activate your men when needed and making sure the lead pastor or preacher isn't soft.
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All right.
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Next question here.
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I've been listening on and off for about a year now.
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I say on and off because I digest a few different podcasts.
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One of the things I've heard you say often is that a lot of worship music is home erotic
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and other such statements.
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I'm curious if you have suggestions for music to the contrary.
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I listen to a lot of the bands you do as far as metal goes, but that doesn't always hit
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the spot of worship for me.
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Do you have suggestions for worship music?
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If not, I would love to see you put together a starter list could even be across all genres.
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Thanks for all you do to move men into warriors for Christ and their families and to the brothers.
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Prayers for you and your family.
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As I know being a light in this dark world brings the enemy in like a mall to the flame.
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God bless.
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So thank you very much for the question and thank you for the kind word.
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So I've talked about this a lot.
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I kind of talked about it a second ago, but just to be more specific, I do have a Christian
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metal playlist on our website.
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So you can just go to I think it's and onto that live backslash playlist.
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I think that's literally the URL.
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The thing with that list is not every member of every one of those bands is a Christian
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and not all those bands have stayed Christian on Christian labels throughout their entire
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time.
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And so these are just bands at the time they were introduced to me.
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They were on Christian labels or purported to be Christians publicly.
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So I threw them up there on the list.
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But in terms of what you would consider to be normally like kind of contemporary Christian
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music, the only ones that I really like that are consistently good and biblical are Shane
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and Shane and then the altar music.
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And so Shane and Shane, they obviously have a huge catalog.
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They've covered a ton of contemporary Christian music.
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They've covered a ton of songs that I personally find annoying and vapid and stupid.
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But when you listen to their Psalms records, especially Psalms too, which I think is the
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greatest Christian worship album of all time, it's like it's so incredible and it's so just
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dripping in scripture.
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And so most of the stuff that they write themselves, not the stuff they cover from other Christian
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music artists, I tend to like.
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And then the altar music, that's more like kind of like bluegrass country type Christian.
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They're incredibly small.
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They're not very well known, but we need to blow them up because they're fantastic.
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Now on the metal side, if you're looking for bands that are like where the lyrical content
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is very scriptural and where most of these people have basically stayed Christian and
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stayed outward about it.
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Obviously holy name, that's the intra-altrow music for our show right now.
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There's another band called O-Sleeper, there's four today, convictions, impending doom, cliff
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side.
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That's a new one I picked up last year, bloodlines and reformed.
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So reformed is a new one, very, very brutal music, but scripturally like, I mean, they're
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called reformed for a reason.
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And so those are the ones that I would put out there.
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The reason why I wouldn't put together a huge Christian playlist across multiple genres
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of like legitimately Christian things is because there's constantly people that are going
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to postate, they're constantly people that are deconstructing and then finding themselves
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outside of the church and outside of the family of God and all these different things and
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it would just take forever to like keep up with these, you know, sketchy, flaky artists
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and whether or not they're still currently thinking that the gospel is a real thing and
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really is good news or not.
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But anyway, those are just a few suggestions.
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Hopefully that helps.
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All right.
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Next quick, not quick hitter.
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I mean, quick hitter mode.
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Next question here on the AMA, do you have family members who disagree with your beliefs?
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If so, does that make family gatherings awkward?
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So this one's pretty easy answer because obviously I family members that disagree with my beliefs,
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but in my family, I don't know how it is with your family, but we don't really get into
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awkward subject matters very much like it's not like, okay, we sit down on Thanksgiving
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and we do our prayer and then it's like, all right, guys, let's talk about abortion.
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What are the arguments?
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Like, that's not really something that's ever happened.
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I will say that there is one family member, I won't name the family member, but they let
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Donald Trump break their brain.
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Like it, Donald Trump just kind of has that effect on people where he breaks their brains.
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But the combination of Donald Trump, the things that he would say, the things that he would
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tweet, the things that CNA would say about him, and then COVID and then all the things
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that went along with that in January six and all that, like this person basically lost
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their mind when it came to all that stuff.
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And they became just almost impossible to talk to in general, not, not just about politics
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because this was not someone that I would seek out a political discussion with basically
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ever.
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But you're going to have people like that in your life and you just, you know, do your
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best to love them and honor them and respect them and just kind of move on.
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But yeah, doesn't really happen that much in the Thompson family tree.
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All right.
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Next question here.
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I'm a single dad, a Marine as well as a business owner in a really toxic co-parenting
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situation.
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What should I do to instill good Christian values in my daughter as she grows up?
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What would you say?
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So that's a tough one.
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Obviously, the only thing I know about you is that you're a single dad, a Marine, you
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run a business, you're a Christian and you're co-parenting with a woman that you deemed
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to be toxic.
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So that's a lot, but still kind of leaves me with some stuff that I'm not really sure
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of.
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But taking the scenario that I'm kind of painting in my brain, you're not in a super unique
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situation, unfortunately.
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I know a lot of guys that married some very busted up women.
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Just sinful, depraved, evil, like, okay, I probably shouldn't say that story.
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So I won't.
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But I'll just say that I know some stories that led to unbelievably sinister and, um,
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try to be diplomatic here.
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Some scenarios where the situation was caused by the woman being an evil, you know what?
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And it led to men doing things and acting out in ways that were incredibly damaging
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to them and to the people around them.
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And it's, um, it could all be drawn back to a single woman that knew that she could ruin
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a man's life by doing X, Y and Z.
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Luckily I'm not in that situation.
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Hopefully, and luckily most of you guys aren't in a situation like that, but those situations
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do occur.
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And so it's not, um, a good thing that divorce happens, especially if you got divorced, not
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for the death of your partner or sexual immorality.
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And so if you send by breaking off your marriage with your spouse, like none of that's good,
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but then we end up being in life, right?
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So you're, you're in the situation now.
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You didn't want to be in the situation, but you're in the situation now.
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You're separated from, you know, the mother of your child and the co-parenting is probably
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not going well.
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There's probably shots being taken back and forth.
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So here's just some advice.
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I'll top my head.
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Number one, control the controllables.
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You can't control how she acts.
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You can control how you act though.
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So if she yells at you, you get to choose whether or not you yell back.
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If she does something conniving to you through your daughter, you get to choose how you frame
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that when your daughter comes to talk to you about it because, you know, my parents got
37:02
divorced and I was a bit of a ping pong ball between them.
37:05
You know, my mom would threaten my father to do things.
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And if he didn't do them, she would threaten to, you know, up the child supporter and my
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dad would say things about my mother to my face that I couldn't, you know, do anything
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about.
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And then I would just have to walk home with this guilt of knowing this thing that he said.
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And it's just, it's a really kind of toxic situation.
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So don't put your kid in the middle of that.
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But ever say anything bad about the mother, that, that kid's mother to the kid, because
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you know what the kid can do about that?
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Nothing.
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So if you're bitter and you hate your ex-wife and she's evil and she's this and she did
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this thing and she cheated and she stole money and she, whatever the thing is, what can the
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child do about that?
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Nothing.
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Now, when they become an adult and maybe they're going down the road towards marriage or they're
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in a young marriage, having a sober conversation about your marriage to their mother and what
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that was like and some of the toxicity there and so that it can be a learning opportunity
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for them so that they can avoid some of the same pitfalls that maybe you experienced.
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That's totally fair game.
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But don't bring your kid in the middle of that.
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In terms of instilling good Christian values, well, when they're at your house, you get
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to control the moral and spiritual temperature of the house, be a spiritual thermostat, not
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a spiritual thermometer.
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So let's just say your ex-wife is an atheist and she's instilling all these secular ideas
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into your kid, these left-wing, crazy, kooky ideas in your kid.
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You can't control her.
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You can only control you, right?
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And we live in a country where if you're a dad, like the mom basically has to be a serial
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killer for her to not have custody rights to the child.
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So suing them to get rid of their custody rights is not really like a realistic thing
38:57
that happens.
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But the overall thing is when they're with you, disciple them, catechize them, do Bible
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study with them, do scripture memorization with them, go to church with them.
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Even if you don't get your kids on Sunday, like work out a way where you can take them
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to church.
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And if your wife is, or your ex-wife is there, like find a way to be around them in a spiritual
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context.
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And so again, I guess the overall thought there would be just control the things you can control.
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You can't control how your ex-wife is going to react.
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All right.
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Next question here.
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My name is Dylan, a 25 year old married dude from Nashville.
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I was recently ordained as a deacon in my church.
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Congratulations.
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I used to view deacons as just old men in the church who prayed over dying, prayed over
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dying people.
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Okay.
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To learn that's not really the case, yeah, surprise, surprise.
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What advice, wisdom or lessons would you give a brand new young deacon?
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So with one like this, find you one of those old men that you saw previously is just being
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like one of those old gray haired guys that, you know, prayed over dying people and fricking,
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you know, get in his inbox or show about his house and say, Hey, can you disciple me?
40:08
Like, that is the best thing that you could do because, dude, when I was 25 years old,
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I was 12 years ago, I again, right around 25 is when your brain is fully developed.
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I was doing some smart things and I was doing a lot of dumb things.
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I thought a lot of dumb things.
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I wish I had an old head that could, you know, help smooth out some of those rough edges.
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That could help me learn and operate in better ways in the world and specifically and most
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importantly, within the church in a ministry context.
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Like if that's the context, you find yourself, dude, that's so valuable, don't lean on your
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own understanding.
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Okay, so in terms of this world, find you an old head or two that can disciple you.
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That can help you.
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You know, you go to breakfast with that dude once a week or once every other week, you
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know, he needs to be around your family.
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You need to be around their family, find you a spiritual mentor.
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But then also it's like, you've got God's word in front of you.
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I know we don't really think of the Bible as God's word because if we really did, we
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would read it more.
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I mean, just think about that.
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Like obviously, if you thought you had God's communication to all of humanity in your hands,
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couldn't you open that up and read it more often than you can do?
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So that's a side point, but go into the scriptures.
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You know the different things in terms of ministry and leadership within the ministry
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we see in Titus and other stuff in the Pauline epistles and look at those things.
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Look at the fruits of the spirit and look at those types of things and see, where am
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I deficient?
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Where do I need to get better?
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And again, utilize a mentor to get better, utilize somebody that's been a deacon before.
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They can maybe help you avoid some pitfalls.
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Just try to lean on your 25 year old understanding.
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All right, we got, oh, looks like we got our last one here.
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So last question.
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Have you been able to meet one of your heroes or favorite musicians or athletes?
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So not necessarily a, well, wait, that's kind of weirded funny.
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I'm having to edit it as I'm reading it.
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Okay.
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Do they live up to the hype with how connected you are?
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I assumed you've had some good and bad experiences with this.
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And do you have a plan for helping your boys learn how to deal with pedestal people?
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So I guess I would be people that put themselves on a pedestal.
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So yeah, I've, I've got to meet a lot of people throughout my career.
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Again, I had that weird job back when I was 25.
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So I wasn't a deacon, but I worked at Major League Baseball and it was a content creation
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type job.
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And I literally have a list on my phone of hundreds of professional athletes, all stars
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MVPs, Hall of Famers, singers, actresses and actors, models, like celebrities, all kinds
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of people that I met and interacted with that year.
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And the thing that I realized pretty early on is they're just people.
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So we would have these, these ballplayers come and these are people that are making, you
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know, in some cases, tens of millions of dollars on their contracts, some of them hundreds
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of millions of dollars on their contracts.
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And you know what they did?
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Well, if it was hot outside, they'd want to come into the air conditioning or if it was
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cold outside, they wanted to come into the heat.
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They would, they would get hungry and thirsty.
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So they would want to eat food.
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They would want to relax and where we worked, there were no fans around.
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So they didn't have to be on and, you know, no one could get autographed.
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So it was just kind of like a chill situation.
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So they were just people.
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Now, I will say the person I was most nervous to meet when I was meeting all these, you
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know, famous baseball players and current players and all that is actually really funny.
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It's a guy named David Eckstein.
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So he won the MVP of the 2000 and what would that have been 2006 World Series.
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Yeah.
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Carlos won in 2006 and 2011.
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So he was the World Series MVP in 2006 and he's about this big and he's like five foot
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five or five foot six, play shortstop and you could tell that guy run every last bit of
43:39
skill that God gave him out in order to just throw the ball across the diamond, but he had
43:44
some big hits.
43:45
I think he had a home run or two in the World Series and it's just like, this was a World
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Series champion from the Cardinals and I was, I was nervous to meet him, but he was super
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nice guy, super accommodating and it was really cool because, you know, with our job,
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we couldn't ask for pictures or anything like that.
43:58
But I did kind of ask him, I was like, Hey, would you mind if I get a picture, a picture
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with David Eckstein?
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That would be really, really cool.
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But then on the flip side of that, the only [inaudible] bag I met all year when I say I met
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hundreds of these quote unquote important people, I met hundreds of them.
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There was one guy that stood out as an absolute tool.
44:16
And the thing about it is before he showed up, I was like, there were only two people
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doing that job that I was like, I don't want to interact with these two people.
44:26
So if they come through, I need to be like sick that day.
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And it was Nigel Morgan and Brandon Phillips.
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And so Brandon Phillips of the Reds, second baseman for the Reds All-Star was going to
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be coming through that day.
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And I was like, okay, you're a professional, just be a professional, you don't like this
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guy personally.
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And then let me back up the reason why I don't like David or Brandon Phillips personally is
44:47
because there was a thing, I can't remember what year it was, but he was talking trash
44:51
about the Cardinals, you know, in the media and stuff like that.
44:55
So there's a game in Sensi and he's the lead off hitter and he goes up and typically with
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the lead off hitter, he would take his bat and, you know, you know, tap the, the catcher's
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shin guards almost says like, Hey, let's play ball, have a good game.
45:07
That type of thing.
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Well, he does that to Yadi or Molina.
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And Yadi goes, don't do that.
45:12
Not after what you said.
45:13
And then Brandon Phillips starts John and then Yadi or Molina starts John and then it turns
45:18
into this big kerfuffle, like there's this big fight, big brawl in the backup catcher
45:24
for the Cardinals actually got kicked in the head by Johnny Quato and it ended his career.
45:31
He got such a bad concussion that he ended his career that all started because of Brandon
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Phillips.
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Okay.
45:38
So I'm already kind of mad about that, but I'm like, Hey, I'm going to be a pro.
45:40
I'm just going to interact with the guy, shoot the video and just move on with my life, but
45:43
he was so rude to me because I was wearing a Cardinals jersey and everyone, he was just
45:48
kind of smiling and laughing and wearing his sunglasses inside and everyone else is laughing
45:51
and I'm like, Okay, buddy, but I worked with two young ladies at the time.
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They were a part of my team.
45:58
And so they thought MLB thought it would be a good idea to have these young ladies interact
46:03
with Brandon Phillips and do like an interview with them.
46:06
And so this is just kind of like, you know, these are mid 20s, late 20s young young ladies
46:12
interacting with his ballplayer.
46:14
And so he's a jerk.
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He's a [inaudible], but he's also apparently a sexual deviant.
46:20
So they're asking him questions because at the time, I think he had the most followers
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on Twitter of any baseball player that was playing at that time that would have been
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2012.
46:28
I think Nick Swisher and him were going back and forth.
46:31
And so these young girls are just asking him questions are like, Hey, you know, if we
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wanted to get more followers on Twitter, you know, you've obviously built this big following
46:38
like, what advice would you give us?
46:40
And this was literally his answer.
46:42
He goes, show your tits.
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I was like, are you kidding me?
46:50
Like I went to the, the people that were running the event because the girls didn't know how
46:54
to react.
46:55
They were incredibly embarrassed.
46:57
They tried to laugh it off and shake it off, but he just thought it was funny.
47:01
And obviously they cut that out of the final interview, but that's just the type of guy
47:04
that brand is Phillips is or was, I don't know if he is still that way.
47:07
Hopefully he's not still that way.
47:08
But that's how how he was.
47:10
I remember going to the staff members of Major League Baseball and I'm like, if you don't
47:14
get Brandon Phillips out of the studio right now, we're going to have a major issue because
47:19
he'd already been kind of been needling me all day.
47:22
And then he said that and you just don't say that to women like that.
47:25
Like, are you kidding me?
47:26
We're in this professional studio environment and you're going to act that way.
47:30
And so of all the people that I've met to kind of get back to your question, there's
47:33
really only one that like super disappointed.
47:35
Well, he didn't disappoint me because I thought he was a [inaudible] before and then he just confirmed
47:38
it.
47:39
But here's kind of my habit now because yes, I've had the tremendous opportunity.
47:44
Of being able to meet some incredible people and interact with them one on one, Jordan
47:49
Peterson, John Cooper, Joby Martin, Chad Robocho and Tim Kennedy and Mike Glover and some of
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these people that I've been able to do things with in person.
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And these are people that have, you know, tens of thousands of followers on social, if
48:06
not hundreds of thousands, if not millions of followers on social.
48:09
And you can really build these people up in your head is to being like, Oh my gosh, they're
48:13
like, they're just unattainable and they're just like these really cool people.
48:16
And what am I going to do?
48:18
But they're just people, y'all.
48:19
They have to eat, they have to go to the bathroom.
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They got to sleep.
48:23
They got to travel for work.
48:25
They got to do work.
48:26
They got to make money.
48:27
They got to support their family.
48:28
They got to grow their business.
48:29
They got to, you know, do their ministry.
48:30
They got to do whatever these things are.
48:32
At the end of the day, they're just people.
48:34
So one that I didn't mention was Phil Robertson.
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Well, I've been interacting with Phil Robertson and Jason Robertson and Al Robertson and a lot
48:42
of other members of the clan and Si and, and I've, I've seen them every summer for the
48:46
last three years and I'm going to go down there again this year.
48:50
They're just regular people.
48:52
Did they do something that was incredibly irregular?
48:55
Did they build this enormous empire that started with, you know, making duck calls in a trailer
49:01
and then becoming like the best and biggest show on television and just the media appearances
49:07
and the licensing deals and just all the money and all the influence.
49:12
But guess what?
49:13
They're just people.
49:16
Phil Robertson still lives in the same old house that they built back in the 70s or that
49:20
he bought back in the 70s.
49:21
That's just right out there on the river.
49:24
Like and if you met any of these guys that are in this family, again, that for the Bronson's
49:29
purposes are loaded financially.
49:32
If you met him, you would just think, oh, just a guy, well, there's a guy that likes duck hunting.
49:37
You know, you look at a guy like Phil, man, the guy's always walking around with his
49:39
Bible.
49:40
He's always talking about this.
49:41
Jesus, dude.
49:42
They're just regular people.
49:43
So for you, I guess the coral area or the less one be for you is like, if you find yourself
49:47
in a situation where you're, oh my gosh, I'm about to meet my idol.
49:51
I bought the VIP ticket to the Jordan Peterson show and now I'm actually going to get to
49:54
meet him.
49:55
It's okay to be nervous.
49:56
It's okay to like, you know, make sure that you make a good impression, but they're just
49:59
people at the end of the day.
50:00
They do extraordinary things.
50:02
They've done extraordinary things, but they're just as extraordinary as you in that they
50:07
are image bears of God.
50:09
Just like you are.
50:11
So when you think about it in those terms, are they an image bear of God?
50:16
Do they have millions of dollars and maybe you don't, perhaps they drive a cooler car
50:21
than you.
50:22
Have they, you know, released more books and sold millions of copies of records and have
50:25
they done all these cool things?
50:27
Yes.
50:28
They're an image bear of God and they are a sinner in need of a savior, just like you.
50:33
Don't treat them any different.
50:35
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