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It's cuz I literally didn't see it, but I respond to almost every single email and almost every single DM. So, let's get into the first AMA here. I recently saw where you posted on Instagram that you bought your grandfather's old Ford. What's the story behind that? So, yes, I posted a picture of me and my dad, and I had a 1979 Ford F100. Uh, it's a Ford Ranger. It's a Lariat. And it was loaded up on the back of a trailer. I was going to trailer it from my hometown. I did trailer it from my hometown of Lon, Oklahoma all the way up here to the Oklahoma City area. And it was such a fun experience. But I guess I need to back up just a little bit. So, that is the first vehicle that I personally ever drove. Okay. So, and it's the only truck I ever saw my grandpa drive. And there was a day I was 12, maybe 13 years old where my grandpa I'm at his house and he just says, "Hey, son, get in the truck." And so I go to get on the passenger side. He's like, "No, get in the driver's seat." So I don't know exactly what he's doing. And so we both get in, you know, I open that huge door, right? You know, it's not like these modern doors that's, you know, shut like it's LIKE A WHAM, RIGHT? SO I shut this door and he just hands me the keys and he says, "Drive me around the neighborhood, son." Again, I'm like 12 or 13. This is super illegal. But hey, it's law in Oklahoma. If you know about law in Oklahoma, a lot of e uh, you know, illegal stuff happens from time to time. So, I throw the keys in the ignition and I pull it out of the driveway and I drive around the neighborhood. And so, it's got a, you know, 466 in there. And he was telling me to punch it when we'd have, you know, some clearance in different areas. And that's exactly what I did. I would punch it and then that thing would take off on me. And my grandfather just sat there just stoic, just big smile on his face. you know, he was just kind of chilling on the on the bench seat with his arm up just watching his grandson drive his truck. And [laughter] at one point I even blowed through a stop sign cuz I I think I knew about the concept of stop signs cuz obviously I was, you know, 12, 13 years old. I I knew what a stop sign was, but I was so overwhelmed, right? There was so much happening in the central nervous system that I was like, "Holy crap." Missed the stop sign entirely. Just blew right through it. So I I I can't remember if my grandpa just laughed or smiled, but it didn't really bother him. And so I just kind of got to drive it all around. And right before my grandfather passed away, they rebuilt the engine. He passed away and then the truck was inherited by my father. And I always knew that I was going to own that truck, especially since it had been so wellmaintained by my grandfather, so well maintained by my dad. And I was like, man, that's that's not just an old truck, cuz old trucks are awesome. It's not just an old truck. That's my grandpa's truck. You know what I mean? And it's the only thing I saw him drive. The only truck I saw him drive. And the first vehicle that I drove still runs. I mean, it probably had a few hundred miles put on it since the engine was rebuilt. So, it's in great condition. And I just knew it was going to be mine someday. And so, I reached out to my dad. I was like, "Dad, you know, I want to go and get the truck. I want to get it up here. You know, I want to, you know, take it to a shop. There's a buddy I know that that does some some alterations and they know how to work on old vehicles because I don't want it to be a show truck. You know what I I just wanted to stay running and you know so we worked it out to where you know did a deal got the truck my buddy Adam from the forging table he helped me trailer it back up here to Oklahoma City took it to the shop and even the people in the shop and the owner like not I mean it's an old truck so it's cool I mean this is like a a shop where they make like race cars like stuff that's just insane and so just watching people gather around this truck and just look at it and see how well preserved it was and to hear the story of me driving it and it's my grandpa's truck and my grandpa bought bought that truck August 1st, 1979. Right? So, he put the first mile on that vehicle, right? And when I got the truck, they still had the temporary tag from August 1st, 1979. I have that, right? I even have a handwritten maintenance log log with my grandpa's handwriting in there. So, all the maintenance he did, right? the the oil changes, you know, tire rotations, buying new tires, anything he had to have done to the engine, you know, when he got some different exhaust put on there, like all that was it's handwritten, right? And so it's special for like a myriad of reasons. But one of the reasons why I wanted it is because here recently, I've just been really overwhelmed and obsessed with this idea of legacy because I have two sons. You know, there's a lot of pressure on dads with sons to make sure they pass on things. There's all these people doing rights of passage now. And I'm not anti- that at all. I love that kind of stuff. But you have dads that are like crap. Like, how am I going to get, you know, the stuff that's important to me into the brains and hearts of of, you know, my my kiddos, especially my sons. How can I make sure that they're ready to live without me? I mean, go back to that episode I did on the road. You know, that's all kind of part of this as well. And I remember sitting here at the forging table and Russell Eustus was to my right. I remember looking down at his wrist and he had this old Timex watch. And it's really small. And I was about to start, you know, poking fun at the watch cuz like, "Hey, man, why you got such a small watch?" And he like stopped me dead in my tracks. And he's like, "Dude, that's my grandfather's watch. Don't like this is an important watch." And immediately I was overwhelmed by like, "Oh crap, I know exactly what he's talking about." Like, "Dude, that's your grandpa's watch." Like, and he told the story about how he found a guy here locally that works on Timex watches to keep them running. And like it was just such a cool thing. So every time Russell Eustus looks down at his wrist and looks at his watch, he thinks of his grandpa. He thinks of all the things they did together. He thinks of the legacy of his name, the, you know, the Eustace name and what he's going to be passing on to his daughters and to to his son and and all those things. And I was just like, that is so awesome. So that truck, I want to keep it in such good condition that one day I bring James out and then I bring Eli, you know, Elijah out and it's going to be like, "All right, son. Drive me around town. drive me around the neighborhood, right? So, that would be four generations of people that drove that truck, right? My grandpa, Robert, my dad, me, and then my sons. Like, how cool is that? And then I thought about the watches because, you know, an old classic truck is maybe something you don't drive every day. And then, you know, I'm going to pass down firearms and really cool, you know, knives like the ones I got made through DOSs and the Nehemiah's and some other cool stuff that, you know, are in the safes. But, you don't use a hunting knife every day. Like you don't use your firearm every day, even if it's your everyday carry. But a watch. I mean, you look down at your wrist how many times a day to look for the time or the date. And how cool is that? So, you know, I invested in a couple of nice watches. Don't worry, guys. I didn't buy Rolexes, right? I'm not trying to end up on Preachers and Sneakers or in Nathan Afel's algorithm or anything like that, but you know, nice watches that, you know, are well-made. Uh, you know, there's people all over the world that can work on them. the the company's going to be around and they're going to run by the time I pass them down to my sons. And then the idea is that they will end up passing them down to their sons. So I can just, you know, imagine assuming, you know, rapture hasn't happened yet or whatever, that if my grandsons one day, whether I'm here or not, they look down at their wrist and they think about the times they had with, you know, Grandpa Kyle, right? And I also think about uh the custom Bibles that I had made by Ace Bookbinding here in Oklahoma City. So, I keep one here in my studio. Um, and it's got the the gospel symbols that were made famous by Phil Robertson there on the spine. Um, it's got my logo, the Undone Life logo on the front. It's got my name and I basically a a replica of this one and, you know, or, you know, exact copy of this one in my truck. That's the one that I take out and when I'm going to a waiting room somewhere, you know, I hang on to that. And, you know, by the time my boys inherit these, you know, they should be well worn. I take really good care of my stuff. Like people are like, "Hey, did you get some new shoes?" I'm like, "Yeah, these are like 15 years old." So, yeah, I take really, really good care of my stuff. I always have. It's just what I was taught by my grandpa and my dad. And so, I want to pass these down. And then also, you've heard me talk about on the forging table, my Bible journals. So, Crossway has these amazing Bible journal sets. They have one that's kind of, you know, normal spine and one that's like spiral bound. The spiralbound one is my preference because it sits flat really well. but it's individual books of the Bible where the ESV scriptures on the left and the right side of the page is just open note pages. And so every time we're doing a series at Faith Bible Church cuz it's just expository preaching verse by verse through books of the Bible, I have that Bible journal with me because I can't really write in physical Bibles like you know I would never write in this Bible. It just doesn't jive with me. I just highlighting and writing in in this just makes me feel funny. Um, but with a forging table, with everything else, if I'm traveling and I know, hey, Joby's going to be preaching on this or Chandler's going to be preaching on that and I'm going to be sitting in at the church, I'll bring that journal and it just has my notes from sermons. It has my notes from the different studies, has notes that I've transferred from commentaries as I've been reading. And I just thought like, man, one day, assuming the world doesn't blow up, we don't get into nuclear winter or the house doesn't burn down or whatever, those boys are going to have those items. And so when they open this Bible, which everyone gets this Bible, they're going to be like, "Man, my dad's hands were on this Bible, right? He spent time in this Bible. He took what this Bible said seriously and he tried to do what it said, right? Bible journals. They're going to see my notes. They're going to see my chicken scratch, you know, my crossouts, my misspellings, or whatever is a part of what I was writing down at that time, and they're going to be like, "Man, this is what my dad was thinking about and experiencing at this time." And then I also think about this show. You know, you guys have heard me talk about before. I look at Undone and Life of Man's podcast as a love letter to my boys. You could say the same for the Daily Blade. So, we're coming up on a thousand episodes of this podcast. I've done, you know, over a 100 150 of the Daily Blade just myself. And so, eventually, if something happens to me, I've got all of my recordings, video and audio on external hard drives that are in a safe. And so even if something happens to Apple Podcast or Spotify or YouTube or something like that, they're gonna have access to every word that I've said on this show and on the Daily Blade. And think [clears throat] about if I'm not here and they're listening to that. Think about if they're listening to that with their kids, sons or daughters, like my grandsons and granddaughters, right? I just thought about how cool that would be. And as cool as it is to pass down things that, you know, are metal with engines or, you know, watches or cool guns or knives or books or Bibles, journals, you know, whatever, pictures, all that stuff's great. But then I just kept thinking about what do I want the legacy of the Thompsons to be? Not just to me, singularly to me, but the Thompsons. And this goes into how my wife and I even parent the kids. We try not to say things like, "Hey, don't do that. you know, whatever corrective behavior. Don't do that. It's, hey, Thompsons do this. Thompsons don't do that. I I don't know if I've said this on the podcast, but we got a call uh last school year. My four-year-old Eli had hit a girl in the head with a block. Okay, so apparently this girl walked up. He was building with a block. He she took it out of his hand or off of the whatever. He grabs it back from her, bops her on the head with it. The girl was fine, but he had to go to the office again. She's three, three or four at this time. And so they call me and they're like, "Mr. Thompson, just wanted to tell you about an incident, blah, blah." They were very sweet about it. And I just said, "Can you put me on speaker?" And you you can almost feel the person go, "Oh, oh, okay. I don't know what this is about to be, but she puts me on speaker and I go, Eli." Yeah, Dad. Hey, buddy. What did you do? [sighs and gasps] I hit someone. Who'd you hit? He said the girl's name. Why'd you do that, buddy? I got mad that she took my block. And then this was the question I asked him. Son, do Thompson's act that way? No. Hey, are Thompson's bullies or protectors? Protectors. Hey buddy, do Thompsons hit girls? No. Do Thompsons protect girls? Yes. So, I didn't yell at him. I didn't berate him. He had already gotten in trouble. He had already had to go to the office. He was already embarrassed, right? He had already already done his crying. But I was trying to call him up to an identity of a Thompson. That's what legacy is. And as cool as all those things are that I, you know, listed earlier, I want the legacy of my last name, the legacy of my life to be a legacy of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Because guys, if if you pass down hot rods and you you pass down land and you pass down money, you pass down cool little, you know, trinkets or whatever, all that's great, but you're passing down stuff that moth and rust will eventually destroy. or when there's a new heavens and a new earth won't even exist anymore. The only thing that lasts eternally is the gospel. Now, it is not your job to save your children. You can do it if you wanted to, right? You know, we're neck deep studying Romans, you know, Romans 9 and 10 right now. And it's like even if we wanted to, we can't save them. We can't argue our kids into heaven. We can't scientifically prove our kids into heaven. We can't force them to believe. We can't do any of that. All we can do is put a bunch of gospel kindling around them. Right? As Chandler says, bunch of gospel kindling so that when the spirit does its work, goes up like a bonfire, right? That's why I read the Bible to my kids. That's why my family and I all pray out loud. That's why we pray before dinner in the restaurant after we ask the server, "How can we be praying for you?" That's why I read, you know, the Bible to them. I make sure that we're going through different stories. I'm asking them questions. You know, I'm talking to them about the gospel and the cross of Jesus and why did Jesus die? And again, you know it intellectually. A lot of people know intellectually that Jesus was a real person that walked this earth that died on a Roman cross and was put in a tomb and purportedly raised from the dead. But do you believe it in here? Have you placed your faith, transferred your faith from yourself and your righteous deeds and actions which are filthy rags before a holy and just father God into the finished work of Christ on the cross? And so if you pass on a bunch of cool stuff, that's great, but you've missed it. You flat out missed it. You need to pass on a legacy of the gospel. So one day when my kids are driving around grandpa's truck, I want them to think of the gospel, right? when they check their wrist and see what time it is, I want them to think of the gospel. When they're flipping through my old Bibles or journals or whatever, if they're listening to either of my podcasts or any of those episodes, I want them thinking about the gospel of Jesus Christ. It's the best legacy I could possibly leave for them. Hey guys, real quick, I just wanted to remind you that we have an official Undaunted Life store. You can go to shop.uned.life or check it out in the show notes. Guys, we're always going to have hats and shirts and a bunch of other awesome stuff. Go there, support us, wear the mission. Again, it's shop.undaunted.life. Check out the link in the show notes. Shop.undaunted.life. All right, next question here. What's your go-to recipe for grilling steaks? Uh, beef for wild game. So, actually, I eat steak just about every day. So, uh I don't eat until lunchtime. So, I've got a really long uh window where I'm not eating. I basically stop eating around 6:00 p.m. and don't eat until around noon the next day. Usually I'm eating a pound of ground meat or I'm eating um you know roughly a pound of steak. And so one of the cool things I've I've started to do recently, so I have a I have a smoker that has two different chambers and one chamber is really small. So I have a one a cast iron skillet can can barely fit in there, right? And it can get super hot, like 500° plus. So, what I'll do is I will take the ground meat, usually a pound of ground orex or venison or something like that, and I'll kind of crush it into like a kind of like a rectangular cube or whatever, right? So, I kind of smush it down. I, you know, oil it up, season it up on both sides, and then what I do is I put butter down and then I cook it like I'm cooking a steak. So, I cook it on one side for a few minutes, and then I'll flip that big thing over and cook it on the other side. And so I'm searing the outside. So as opposed to just putting the ground in there and you start just chopping it up and moving it around, you kind of get this bowl of kind of gray ground and you try to season it like crazy and it still doesn't, you know, turn out spectacular. But when you do it this way, even when you start to kind of like chop it up to cook the inside faster, the outside, you still have that that flavor that you've kind of been crusted on there. So that's how I do ground. But then for steak, typically I don't have the patience to just cook a steak how I would normally cook it, right? So, you know, I put it in the, you know, the convection oven at 250. I get it up to about 100°, pull it off, cast iron skillet as hot as it'll go, throw butter in there, and then I'll kind of sear both sides. And I know there's the reverse sear where people do that at the beginning, and then they turn everything down and throw the butter and the thyme and the garlic and all that in there, and then kind of chuck the butter on there to finish it. It's just it's too slow of a process. So, I will take roughly a pound of backstrap or or beef steak or something like that, and I'll cut it into strips. And so what I'll do, you know, they're they're kind of like cubed strips or whatever. And so I throw a bunch of butter in the cast iron skillet after it's as hot as I can get it. Then I throw all that in there. And then I just kind of move it around. Just move it around. Move it around. Move it around for about a minute. Pull it off. And so each individual piece is medium rare. It's got a little crust on the outside. And the other thing I can just eat it real fast, right? I can cook it fast. I can eat it fast because usually I'm just doing lunch here uh at my house. And so it's just a way to get good high quality 100 plus grams of protein in my system and that's how I knock it out. So that's my go-to recipe. All right, next question here. You refer to certain news outlets as propaganda by uh CNN or MSNBC or the Associated Press or whatever, but then you will use them as your sources for quick hitters. Isn't that inconsistent? So I know this guy thinks there's a gotcha here, but there really isn't. because I assume bias in every single news source that I read. The ones that purport to be on the left, the ones that purport to be on the right, and the ones that are the least reliable, typically the ones that purport to be in the center. Because if you say you're conservative, I'll just believe you. If everyone in the world knows you're liberal, I'll just believe you. But when you say you're centrist, again, there's there's not a whole lot of moderate positions on important topics. Like, what's the moderate position on transing the kids? we cut off one boob and not the other. Like what's the moderate position on abortion, right? We only dismember part of the baby while it's in the womb or we only kill babies on, you know, Tuesdays and Thursdays and not the other days. Like, so there's not a moderate way to go about that. So, I know CNN is biased to the left regardless of their new management or rebranding or all that. Same thing with MSNBC or I guess it's called MS Now, same thing with the AP, same thing with Slate. Same thing with the New York Times. So, I read it understanding what's happening. You know, I read an article from the USA Today and the language, especially if you're talking about anything LGBTQ, it's just so sloppy, right? They'll use the wrong pronouns for people just based on what they think in their mentally ill brain, not with what comports with reality. And so, I understand that going in. And the other part of why when I do quick hitters, I refer to a bunch of different sources and not just whichever one's your favorite guy that asked this question. Maybe you're a Fox News guy, maybe you're a Breitbart guy, maybe you're a Daily Wire guy. Like, I don't really know. But if I only reported things and facts from one website or two websites that I know already agree with me, I'm not challenging my biases. I'm not providing a plethora of sources. Because the thing about it, when I do quick hitters, again, the guy that asked this question should know this. I'm giving you basically the headline in the first paragraph or two and if the article buries the lead, I go find where they buried it and I bring that up as well. So, I'm just trying to bring you up to speed with what is generally agreed upon in terms of the information that's within the article. Then I get into my commentary. So, I'm not reporting the news. I'm not a journalist. I know there's a lot of pseudojournalists out there that do podcasts right now, but I'm not a journalist, right? I'm trying to give you discernment. I'm trying to pass on wisdom in these particular areas, based on these particular topics, based on things that have actually happened. And my commentary is based on things to where if there's small adjustments that could be made to the language to make it more accurate, it doesn't affect what I say in terms of my big takeaway. If there's certain things that are factual and other things that have been embellished or ignored, it's not going to change what I say in the big takeaway. So, that's why I do it. All right. Next, uh, not quick hitter, next AMA. So, if I've said quick hitter, that's not true. Here's the next AMA. Is masturbation without pornography, which I've never watched, unfit for a godly man. So, I've been asked, you know, derivatives derivations whatever of this particular question a bunch. Is it okay for a Christian man to masturbate? I've been asked, "Hey, is it okay if I masturbate while I'm on a business trip just thinking about my wife? Is it okay if I masturbate while they're with my wife? Cuz maybe for whatever reason, we're not doing intercourse right now and she's not really comfortable with doing that." And so, well, what's what's, you know, what say you about that? And I remember this guy in particular sent me a DM on on Instagram and we kind of had a little back and forth, positive back and forth where he was trying to make a biblical argument for why masturbation was okay. It's like, hey, I'm not going to look at porn. I'm not going to support that. I've never watched it. But, you know, if I masturbate, you know, only thinking about my wife, is that okay? Well, that falls apart really quick because what about a guy that masturbates thinking about his future wife, but he's not married right now? So maybe he's single, maybe he's got a girlfriend, maybe he's engaged, but he's not married yet. So he's masturbating, thinking about a particular person, either, you know, some amalgamation of what his wife will look like someday. Or he sees his current girlfriend or his fiance as who that person's going to be. And so he's masturbating, thinking about that. And this is what I told him. And you can't argue against this. It's about as capital T true as true gets. Any sex outside of the covenant marriage between one man and one woman for life is ungodly and sinful. Any of it. So if you fornicate, you have premarital sex, that's sin. If you have sex the day before you get married with the woman that you're going to be marrying, sin. If you're in a marriage, you step outside your marriage and have sex with someone that's not your spouse, sin. If you're divorced and let's say your divorce is even on biblical grounds, right? And then you have sex after that but before you're married again, sin. So that obviously includes you having sex with your left hand or your right hand. Right? I mean, it's very cut and dry. There are certain gradations and things of scripture. This is not this is very black and white. So, I don't care what you're doing in your brain when you're masturbating. And and again, this the idea that this guy could only keep his mind on his wife while masturbating. Dude, your your brain must be astonishingly powerful if that's where if your brain doesn't really go off into other places. Like, I I I have serious doubts that you could even do that. But even if you could, you're still sinning because you are not physically having intercourse with your spouse. You are having intercourse with yourself. You're trying to self soothe. You're bored. You know, maybe you're haven't ejaculated in a while and it's affecting you or you think it's affecting you. So, you're choosing to do something ungodly, sinful, right? Something sinful. And you're trying to like back your way into some sort of a theology for it. and you have no grounds to stand on. None whatsoever. And so, you know, for me, obviously, back in my past, I've talked about this a lot. You know, hasn't been an issue for, I don't know, what, 16, 17 years or whatever, but I used to masturbate and I used to consume pornography. And I don't do either of those things anymore and haven't for an incredibly long period of time. It's because I've decided that when I read the Bible, I'm just going to do my best to do what it says to do. And what this book says is that the only acceptable form of sexual intercourse is between one man and one [clears throat] woman inside of a covenant marriage before God for life. There is not a secondary way of describing this. There's not a different theology that is based on what these words say and what they mean. And so to this guy and to anyone else that's asked me, to anyone else that's ever wondered that, the answer flat out is just no. You can't do that. Hey guys, real quick. I know a lot of you train for very specific things. So maybe you've got a mud race coming up, a mountain hunt, a 5K, or maybe you just want to keep up with your kids, or you just don't want to let the old man in. But for a lot of you guys, whether you're working out at the globo gym, or even your garage gym, you get there and you just don't know exactly what to do. And so you just kind of settle for the same old workout routine, maybe some bench press, bicep curls, a walk on the treadmill, and you know you're not really getting the most out of your workout plan. And I want you guys to stop wasting time at the gym. No more settling. It's time for you guys to get a guide to help you reach your fitness goals. 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Okay, so uh Netflix, they've done one or two of these MMA things, but recently they did something that they tried to make enormous. And [sighs] here, let me actually go through the fight card and then I'll kind of give my thoughts on it. So, it was Ronda Rousey, former UFC champion, versus Gina Carano, who I think had lost last fought like 17 years prior. There was Nate Diaz versus Mike Perry, Francis Enanu versus Felipe Lind. uh Sal Dandin Parnas versus Kenneth Cross, Junior Dos Santos, JDS versus Rebellis Despier. And then um there's only one guy in the prelims I had ever heard of and it was former one championship fighter Adriana Marise who had beat Mighty Mouse back in the day. And so here's the thing about this card is one of the things that the UFC does is they try not to do really big mismatches. So, Bellator had a lot of big mismatches. Affliction back in the day had these mismatches. One championship not as much. But then you have something like this that pops up. And every [clears throat] single one of these fights was a tremendous mismatch. All the fights on the main card were not competitive at all. So, Junior Dos Santos versus Despa. So, Despa is this kind of like he's this Cuban karate guy or whatever. So, Junior Dos Santos was the UFC heavyweight champion a billion years ago. He's got nothing left in the tank. He's been turned off a bunch. And this Hispania guy is incredibly fast, incredibly brutal, incredibly quick hands and feet. And so, it was a name, a known name versus a not as known name, but it was super one-sided. And again, I [clears throat] had never heard of, you know, Salandin Parnas and Kenneth Cross. But then you had Francis Inanu, former UFC heavyweight champion in Felipe Lind. Insane mismatch that ended in a knockout. Then you had Nate Diaz versus Mike Perry. Nate Diaz is the most overrated fighter ever in MMA. Ever. He's beloved by most of the fans. I'm not one of them. His record in MMA 21 and 14. 21 and 14. 35 fights and he has a plus seven in the wind column. So yes, he's got some big wins. He's been beaten by some world class guys, but he's been beaten a bunch. But everyone likes his antics and his, you know, this and that and the whole thug thing and the whole like, you know, I'm a California thug guy and flipping people off and the smoking weed and all that kind of stuff. But just remember whenever he fought Leon Edwards, he got destroyed for 24 minutes and 45 seconds of that fight, but in the fifth round, he landed a combination and rocked Leon. And as opposed to going forward and finishing [clears throat] the fight and winning it, which looked like he could have done, he just sat there pointing out, I'm like, "Ah, I got you. I got you." One of the dumbest things I've ever seen. But moronic MMA fans are like, "Oh man, Nate's the best. Look at him." Whatever. So that fight was never going to be competitive. And then you had Ronda Rousey versus Gina Chrono. So Ronda Rousey obviously had a really long run as the women's 135 champion in the UFC until she started fighting real fighters that could actually stand up with her, right? So Holly Holm. Um and then she got beat by oh the the women's goat. Just forgot her name. What the gal from Brazil? Amanda Nunees. And just got pieced up two fights in a row and then she's the biggest baby in the history of the sport. Spoiled brat. leaves, goes to WWE, and then comes back to do this. In the whole runup to the fight, she's just one of the most off-putting human beings on planet Earth. And Gina Carano had gotten to where she was like 100 pounds overweight at one point. She lost all the weight for this fight, but she had last fought again almost two decades prior. And Ronda Rousey is a legitimate judoka, right? You know, Olympic level judoka. And so this fight felt like it was just going to be scripted. And it ended up being that way. Immediate [clears throat] takedown, immediate arm bar. Ronda Rousey wins. The whole thing felt scripted, right? So, they tried to hype it, tried to hype it, tried to hype it, but it was really hard for people to get excited about these fights that were going to be so lopsided. But again, you know, some of these fighters, you like some of these fighters, so at least you're going to tune in. And it's on Netflix. You know, tens of millions of people, hundreds of millions of people have Netflix, and so they're going to tune in to something like that. But I I say all that to say this. currently as it's constituted, a promotion like MVP is never going to be able to out compete the UFC because when's the last uh do you remember the last MVP MMA card on Netflix? Do you remember when that was? Oh, yeah. It was the one I just described and that was several months ago. The UFC is doing events basically every week of the year. They're either doing fight nights at a, you know, some town in the United States, some city in the United States, or they're doing them at the Apex there in Las Vegas. And then they have their big numbered events. Okay, as of the recording of this, we've got Max Holloway versus Conor McGregor this weekend. Kind of tells you about the gravitational pool of both of those guys, especially Conor McGregor, because the main event of a fight card, there's no title up for that. Like, name the number of numbered UFC events where there hasn't been a title fight as the main fight. Again, that fight's just bigger than a lot of title fights would be. But they're giving us MMA, the highest quality MMA, the best fighters in the world, every single week. And people love to complain about how the fighters don't get paid enough and you know the promotion is the one hanging on to all the funds and it's the fighters that actually do the fighting, you know. Well, guess what? All those fighters sign contracts to fight for the UFC. They're not being forced to fight against their will. And they chose the profession of mixed martial arts fighter over all the other professions on the planet. They chose that. It's like when you know school teachers complain about how much they get paid. It's like, didn't you go to school to become a school teacher? Well, yeah. Didn't you apply for a job to be a school teacher at a particular school? Yeah. Didn't you interview for that job? Yeah. When they offered you the job, did you decide to accept it? Yeah. Did you do any of that at the threat of violence? No. Okay, then what are you complaining about? Cuz you can leave, you can go back to school, get a different uh degree, go into a different field where you can make more money, but you wanted to be a teacher. So, why are you complaining? So, these fighters that sign these contracts and they complain about what they're making and how hard it is. It's like, bro, you chose that lady. you chose that. You know what I mean? And so there's just not anything out there. Bellator hasn't done it. Whatever the Bellator guys is trying to come back and do, one championship hasn't done it. The the dominant promotion is the UFC. There's not a close second, so I just don't see anybody taking them over for a long time. All right, next uh question here. What's one Christian belief you've changed your mind about in the last 10 years? Okay. H, [clears throat] that's a good question. one Christian belief you've changed your mind about in the last 10 years. Um, I don't know that I've fully changed. H [clears throat] trying to think. There's a lot of things that I've evolved on. There's a lot of things that I think that I thought that I knew. Let me just look at the Dragon on a leash episode from last week where there's a lot of things that I thought that I knew that I kind of shifted on. But one thing I guess I'll just go with this since you know we're studying Romans for the forging table. There's what I thought the Bible said and then there's what it says. And so I guess the belief that I had is that oh yeah, you know, I don't need to really study the Bible that much because I pretty much already know what's in it. I kind of talked about that on the crisis of discernment episode earlier this year and the the lifeway legionir state of theology survey from 2025 which clearly showed that even self-described evangelicals don't actually read this thing or they read it and just go I don't really like that so I'm not going to do that. Um, and so I guess I've been disabused of my notion in a lot of areas about what the book says. And as you've heard me talk about, especially we've argued about on the forging table a whole bunch, you know, reformed theology, tulip, you know, those types of things. There's what I thought the Bible said about how people are saved. So, so teology and then there's what the Bible just says. I mean, just today I was, you know, really doing a deep dive on Romans 9 getting ready for the forging table and I'm just like, God, elections just all over it. that deep dive I did for the Leash on a dragon episode. I was like, "God, God's sovereignty stretches farther than I ever imagined." Again, it was a spirit of the Lord. I think I said uh 2 Samuel in um interview recently, but it was 1 Samuel. You know, a harmful spirit from the Lord tormented Saul. Okay? You know, Satan enters Judas and immediately Jesus looks at Judas and says the words, "What you must do, do quickly." And then there was the realization like, "Oh, dude, he's not talking to Judas at all. He's talking through Judas, past Judas. He's talking directly to Satan, giving him permission to kill him, to kill Jesus." Part of the Godhead is giving Satan permission to do the final parts of his scheme. And so I think that that's really it because again when you get into total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, and perseverance of the saints, you know, tulip, uh, you know, there's just so much about what the Bible just says. There is still some ambiguity. There's some ways they can be argued left versus argued right. You know, Armenian versus Calvinist. There's there's ways to kind of bend, but there are just some areas where the text could not be more plain. That God, you know, chooses whom he will save that, you know, none of us [clears throat] deserve mercy, but mercy is delivered to some of us via God's decision-m and choosing. So, those are some areas that I've evolved on that I I think differently about now, and I'm sure things will continue over the next 10 years. All right, next question here. What's a decision you made that everyone criticize but you'd make again? Uh, so I've talked about a lot of hard stuff on the show. Um, so I always talk about the pitbull stuff like pit bulls are wild animals. They should not be owned by private citizens. It's insane that people have pit bulls and homes with their children. And every time you hear about a dog mauling a child or an elderly person to death, you don't even have to ask what breed it was. You already know. Um, and people hated that. People still hate me for that. Um, talking about the IVF stuff again, uh, that's that's one that I talked about that I definitely don't regret. A lot of people disagree with me. A lot of people stop listening to the show. A lot of people just completely cut off their relationship with me because of my clear description of the moral issues with IVF. Did an entire episode on it. You heard Katie FA talk about it recently on this show. You've heard Seth Gruber talk about it recently on this show and it's like people wish I just would have ignored it. I would have just kind of waved my hand over it. Oh well, yeah, we'll just we'll just, you know, give two thumbs up to Christian IVF facilities, whatever that is. Um, it's kind of like blindly following Christian, you know, contemporary Christian music artists, just assuming they're all Christian. The person singing the words Christian, uh, all the people in the band are Christians. all the management, all the people at the label, just assuming all those people are Christian and not just people that want to make money off of Christians, right? Um, but if we go all the way back to episode four of this podcast, so I remember again, I never thought this podcast was going to have more than dozens of listeners. Like a lot of people are getting into podcasting because they want to be Joe Rogan, they want to be Shawn Ryan, they want to be Tucker Cross, and they want to be huge, they want to make millions and millions of dollars doing all this. And there's six and a half million plus shows and counting that are on Spotify, Apple Podcast, all these places. And so a lot of people are trying to manufacture popularity and they're trying to buy [clears throat] ads on other people's shows and they're, you know, trying to, you know, maneuver to get closer to this person. They're trying to hire marketing agencies to try and blow up and all those different things. And so a lot of things that I've talked about on this show, if you tried to do them, you would just fail. It's not because you're you. because I'm me. Because that's just the way this is. I started this thing back in 2017. But episode 4 of this podcast is called [ __ ] in the Pews. And I remember before wanting to record episode 4 of this podcast. If you haven't heard it, it's a doozy. Go back and listen to it. I remember talking to some more [clears throat] of the chill guys in my life cuz I'm I'm I can be pretty aggro, pretty aggressive, uh pretty, you know, forward. And I'm like, "Here's the podcast that I've created. Here's what I'm thinking about calling it. I can't think of a better name, but it it really is something that's important to me and I think the guys that will end up listening to this kind of understand the language that I'm using. What do you think? And I expected them to be like, "Ah, dude, too much. Like, can we can we soften it a little bit? Can you just call it like wussies in the pews or, you know, cowards in the, you know, in the church or something like that?" Every single one of them said, "Yeah, dude. Send it." They're like, "That's you, how you talk. That's how real guys talk." Like, if people are offended by that, they're the exact people that you're talking about. And so, that episode of this podcast has cost me speaking opportunities. It's cost me advertising opportunities, it's cost me money because people will go and they'll look at that, it's kind of exactly like what my friend said. They'll look at the title of the episode and they're like, [gasps] "I am offended at your use of that word that I would not use. How dare you?" and then they [clears throat] just castigate me and put me in a different category. All the while they're confirming the things that I say in that episode. They're they're basically proving my point for me. And so, uh, I've been criticized a lot for that. Been criticized about the IVF stuff. Criticized for going after Candace Owens, right? I've done that on my show and I've done that on social media. Always get a ton of hate mail by a bunch of geniuses. Uh, right. A bunch of real geniuses there in the comment section. um you know the the pit bull stuff like I'm okay with taking the non-popular position. And so are there things that if I could go back I would say differently on the show? Yeah. Are there points that I made that I wish I could have made a finer point or use better language? Sure. But I don't regret anything that I've said. And if you want to criticize, that's fine. But it's really really easy to oppose and it's really hard to propose. Like it's it's really really easy to tear stuff down. It's incredibly hard to build it. And so as I encourage people all the time that are angry with me about what I say or the way I say it or the subjects I talk about or the subjects I don't talk about, you're all going to get the same encouragement. Okay? You go build a show, build it up, get a a large audience, get the trust of a bunch of publishers and publicists that are pitching people to come to you on your show, and then talk about whatever the hell you want to talk about. Go for it. I won't stand in your way. You can buy a $50 microphone off of Amazon like I did, point it at your laptop that you already own, hit record, and then be interesting for an hour. Be interesting enough to where people will keep listening and they will share it around where your audience continues to grow. And then when you get to that point, you won't have to worry about what I'm talking about because you'll be too busy, you know, you'll be too busy worrying about the things that you need to prepare and what you need to do to get ready for the next episode. All right, last question here. What's something you've apologized to your kids for? So, probably be better say, what have you not apologized to your kids for? But, um, ultimately I take, you know, what Joby says seriously when he's like, you should be the lead repter in your household. Again, I grew up in a family where no one apologized for anything ever, right? If they did something mean to you or they got mad at you or they yelled at you or, you know, they said something nasty or whatever, you just moved past it. Never discussed it. Certainly never said, "I'm sorry." You just kind of moved on. I didn't want that to be what my boys experienced. Right? So, typically what I've had to apologize to my my boys about or what I've had to repent of for, you know, to them [snorts] is whenever I treat something that's a two out of 10 like it's a 10 out of 10. So, they make a mistake. You know, they they spill a glass or, you know, they get something dirty that I just cleaned or, you know, I told them to do something and then they immediately forgot it or I'm talking and they interrupt me. I hate being interrupted. You know, any of those types of things. And then I right, I get fired. I get so fired up. Now, back in my 20s, I would lose it big time. Right now, it's not really that bad, but I can still be a little too intense for the people around me, right? And so, I take that off-ramp to crazy towns, right? But I make sure that getting back on the highway, back on peace and you knowh ease for the household, I try to get back on that highway as soon as possible. And I will just go to my sons and they may still be in the process of crying because dad got upset or dad yelled or something like that and being like, "Hey, hey buddy, buddy, buddy. Dad should not have done that. I am so sorry. I know you spilled your drink. I know I told you to be careful. I know I told you like, "Hey, if I give you this, you know, cup that doesn't have a top on it, you might spill it. Be careful." I know all that and you spilled it anyway, but we cleaned it up in about 10 seconds. It's not that big a deal. Dad treated it like it was a really, really big deal. I'm very, very sorry for that. Do you forgive me? And they always forgive me. Like, I'm modeling repentance. I'm modeling asking for forgiveness. And they're reciprocating. They're learning to realize, okay, dad got mad, but that's a dad problem. I definitely made a mistake. And guys, there's a big difference between mistakes and sin. Big difference. There's a big difference between mistakes, honest mistakes, and chosen disobedience. So, sins and chosen disobedience should be dealt with more harshly than whoopsy daisies, right? And so I've had to apologize to my kids a lot for that. I'm going to continue to have to do that. And that's that's okay. I'm wired like a crazy person. So I'm just going to continue to have to do that. It's part of my sanctification process. And that'll do it for today. But guys, before we let you go, we are going to do a quick resilience boost at Undaunted Life. Our mission is equipping men to push back darkness with content that forges spiritual, mental, and physical resilience. So don't forget you can donate to what we're doing here. If you need a taxdeductible donation, you can donate to the work Joby and I are doing with the Daily Blade through the New Horizons Foundation. You can either go to new horizonsfoundation.com, search the Daily Blade, or you can check out the link in the show notes. And if you want to hop on board and support Undaunted Life, just go to the link in the show notes or go to undaunted.life/donate. Thank you everyone for listening to this episode. Wherever you're listening to this, please subscribe, rate, and leave us a positive five-star review. If you want me to come speak live at your event or on your podcast, just shoot me an email to info@undant.life. Follow us on Instagram and like us on Facebook. And check out our website for everything else, including how to donate to keep more content like this coming. www.undaunted.life. The music on this podcast is the song Conqueror by the Christian metal band Void Awaken. Be sure to stream their music on Spotify, Apple Music, and wherever else you get your music. I'm your host, Kyle Thompson. Remember, keep pushing back darkness. Keep forging spiritual, mental, and physical resilience. Keep seeking the Lion of Judah. Heat. Heat. [music] [music]