Why You Should Vote for Cyndi Munson (Ep. 988)

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I'm your host, Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it. Like a roaring lion or a charging bear is a wicked ruler over a poor people. A ruler who lacks understanding is a cruel oppressor, but he who hates unjust gain will prolong his days. Guys, that's Proverbs 28:15-16. Keep that in mind as we roll through the episode today. Just always want to say thank you so much to all of our donors. We have guys that donate directly to Undaunted Life and also to the work I do with Joby with the Daily Blade. Both of those links are in the show notes. Guys, I can't tell you how much it means to us that guys are willing to partner with us in that way. I mean, we got guys that are giving five bucks a month, 100 bucks a month. You know, they'll drop 75 bucks one time. every little bit helps because like I said and like I've told you before, we don't have like magic donors like behind the scenes that are like giving us money or any of those things. 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Now, before any of you guys just switch this off and skip, because I know I've got a large audience of people all across the United States and frankly all across the world, like we're ranking in in the top shows in I think a few dozen different countries at any one time, which is just absolutely mind-blowing what God's doing with this show and with this microphone. But before you just automatically skip this episode cuz you're like, I don't live in Oklahoma. What does this have to do with me? I want you to come along on this journey because I know we're in another busy political season right now. For any of you guys that are in the United States and you live in a purple state, I'm sure you're just about sick of it all, right? You're getting political ads, you're getting like roocalls, you got door knockers, you got people like, you know, putting stuff in your mailbox, all stuff. Like, look, I get it. It's a lot going on right now, especially if you're not like a political animal. And I know most of you listening to this don't call Oklahoma home. [clears throat] And you're probably wondering why in the world should I care about a guminatorial race in a deep red state in the United States that I don't even live in. And here's what I'll say to that. The race isn't that interesting. The Oklahoma ginatorial race. It's not. It's the reaction to this race that is. And it's revealing more brain rot than you might initially think. So on November the 3rd, Okeis will go to the polls and amongst other things, they will be voting for the next governor of the great state of Oklahoma. Representing the Republican party is Mike Maisie. He's 61 years old. He's from the Tulsa area. He's a financial planner and investment management executive by trade. He also served in the Oklahoma Senate from 2004 to 2016. He was on the Senate Finance Committee. Uh he was the chairman of that committee actually and he's also the former Oklahoma secretary of budget and he got a degree in government and public uh government and politics from George Mason University and he did his graduate work in financial planning education. He's married to his wife Noel for close to four decades. I think he has four biological children and one adoptive adopted child. Then on the Democratic side we have someone named Cindy Mson. So she is 41 years old. She was raised in Lton, Oklahoma, but has spent most of her career in the Oklahoma City area. She's essentially spent her entire career working in the nonprofit sector. She's an Oklahoma House of Representatives member. She's represented district 85 in Oklahoma City uh for I think she uh got that post in 200 I can't remember when exactly that happened. She's been representing that district for a while. And she's also been the minority leader of the House of Representatives in the state of Oklahoma since 2022. She got a political science degree from the University of Central Oklahoma role chose. And she got a leadership education degree from the University of Nebraska. She's not married, never been married, and has no kids. So that's the tale of the tape, but what do the numbers say? So essentially, this should be and will be a blowout victory for Mike Maisie. Most projections show Maisie winning by 20 plus points in November. Again, Oklahoma is perhaps the most reliably read state in the union right now. I think the last three presidential elections, every single county voted red. And so this is a reliably red, securely red state, especially when it comes to the governor's mansion. And if you look at the betting markets, cuz there's not really polling being taken uh on this race because it seems like a foregone conclusion. But if you kind of take all the different like betting markets together, Mike Maisy has around a 92% chance of becoming the next governor of Oklahoma. So statistically speaking, it's not absolute zero chance for Cindy Mson, but it's relatively speaking a 0% chance that she will win. So if we're being realistic, and we can't get into the mind of Cindy Mson, but we know that Cindy Mson isn't running for governor and expecting to win. She's just not. I mean, she's running expecting to lose. She's expecting to lose by a lot. I mean, if it's below 20 points, it would be like a surprise. If it's below 15 points, it would be basically a miracle. So, she's going to talk about herself as if she's, you know, some kind of heroin that she even ran for office. This is going to be after she loses. She'll call that the, you know, the state backwards. And it's it's kind of simultaneously like the state she loves so much, she also hates so much because of all the backwards policies. And then she'll get some, you know, liberal progressive think tank job somewhere or she'll, you know, scurry back to the nonprofit world. That's essentially the trajectory of what it's going to be like for her. So again, you're probably wondering, if that's the case, Kyle, then why are we spending an entire episode on this race? And this is why a growing number of Americans are willing to look past obvious evil in the name of two things: nice and change. Hey guys, real quick. So pretty much everywhere you look right now, all anyone in the fitness and wellness world wants to talk about is peptides. And in the last few years, the demand and the market for peptides has gone through the roof. And here's the thing, most people don't really know anything about peptides. They just know that a lot of people they know are on them and are having great results. And here are a few reality checks as it pertains to peptides. One, you need to know what they are and how they can help you. Two, not all peptides and peptide companies are reliable and safe. 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If anyone has ever met Cindy Mson, she comes across incredibly nice and incredibly charming because she's incredibly nice and incredibly charming. She is just a very likable, very lovable individual. She's very endearing. She's got a lot of very endearing qualities. She plays up those qualities, I think, in a very honest way. And also if uh you know well just go ahead and say this for me individually I'm a valid observer and can stand by what I just said because I've known Cindy Mson longer than just about anybody that will listen to this episode because Cindy Mson and I met when we were like six or seven years old because we both attended Crosby Park Elementary School in Lton Oklahoma and then we both attended Eisenhower Junior High School and then Eisenh High School and then we both ended up in Edmund, Oklahoma at the University of Central Oklahoma. And so I've literally been around Cindy Mson for most of my life right now since, you know, we both left UCO about 20 years ago. We haven't really crossed paths that often, but you know, we're we're friends on Facebook. It's Facebook official. We've been around each other basically our entire lives. And I've only watched Cindy Mson uh for the most part be very very nice, very very charming and help out a lot of people. And so a lot of people are seeing that about Cindy Muning. Cindy Mson whether they've known her for a long time or just met her and they're like, "Wow, she's really really nice. I want to vote for her." And then we got the change side of things. So this calls back to 2008 when Barack Obama ran for president. He had essentially no bonafides. He had uh basically no track record. He had been in the Senate for about 5 minutes. had never even written a piece of legislation. But hope change. Remember, we need a change. Why? Don't need to tell you that. Don't even question me. Change though. And so, I think as humans, we have a natural tendency towards change. Now, some of y'all are wired a little bit more like me that we're just not really big into change for the sake of change. But when change happens, we're like, "All right, we can kind of roll with that eventually." But then there's other people that are just like, "I just need a change." whether it's the the paint on the walls in their bedroom or the route they drive to work or the political party that they allow to be in party in their state. And look, there are a lot of Oklahomaman that are not terribly satisfied with the state of the state, if you will. So again, solidly red state, but there are some issues. We are toward the bottom in education. We're toward the bottom in healthcare. We're near the top in obesity rate. Our obesity rate as a state is close to 40%. And then we have the 13th highest crime rate nationally. And so there are certainly some issues here, right? There's a lot of great things to look at. There's a lot of tremendous things that are happening in this state, especially in the Oklahoma City area, but there are some issues. And so some people just think by default change equal good, right? So if they were going to like caveman like mumble this thing, change equal good. Well, why change equal good? Oh, me don't know. That's kind of where we're at right now. It's just nice and change. But then we need to talk about what people think matters when it comes to a candidate they vote for. Okay? And you know, there are a lot of people that when we look at political seasons, we're trying to evaluate why are people voting for this candidate over that candidate. We're looking at bo voting patterns, what their immutable characteristics might lead them to do in terms of voting, what where they're raised or their socio and e economic status. But ultimately, it's what people think matters when they're voting for a candidate. One of the things they think matters is the candidate is a really nice person, right? We just talked about that. And ultimately, the the reason why they're saying something like that is, "Well, if I invited them over for dinner, I would probably enjoy it." Or you maybe heard it said this way where it's like, "Oh man, I could just sit down and have a beer with that guy or gal." And so that's that's kind of why some people vote for certain people. They think that things like that matter. They also think things like this candidate is going to change things. Again, nice and change. We just talked about those things. Again, we need to kind of ask more questions than that. Not just will they change things? Yes or no? Check. Yes. It's like, well, what things are going to are they going to change? Like why are they changing them? How are they going to pay for that change? What will that change lead to? But again, a lot of people just think, hey, this person's going to change things. And I'm cool with that. A lot of people also think, you know, this candidate understands me. They feel my pain. Hey, you know what? They're just like me. They're just like me. And here's the thing, that is a tremendous tool for political candidates. If you go back to the episode, or not the episode, but the the ad that kind of launched Cindy Mson's campaign for governor, she talked about, you know, I have moved, you know, 10 times as a kid and I, you know, constantly had to reset my life and like I don't come, you know, from money and all these things and hey, I'm just like you and I care about you and all those different things. But if if we're being honest, do we really want someone that understands us? Do do we want someone that understands our plight and and everything that we're going through? Exactly. Because there was a time in in this country and in other countries, you were voting for people that didn't necessarily live the life that you did because we wanted someone that understands how to fix a problem that might be negatively impacting me. Isn't that more valuable? So you can understand my plight. We came from the same places. Those kinds of things. Okay, that's neat. That's not nothing. But I need to know whether or not you can fix the problem that is putting pressure on me, my life, my business, my family, my everyday dealings in this community. But again, a lot of people think, hey, this person understands me. They get me, right? As if that's some sort of like politically valuable thing. But also, people think this candidate has wanted this job their entire life. [snorts] And so one of the things that you might see if you're on Facebook or at any of these rallies is that Cindy Mson has dreamed about being the governor since she was a child. She has pictures of her pretending to be the governor. I remember at one point in in high school or college or something like that, she took a picture outside of the governor's office, I think she was pointing at, and she said, "Someday or the goal or it was something like that." And so you'll see a lot of Cindy Mson friends, a lot of Cindy Mson supporters saying this. She's wanted this job her entire life. To which I would say, and does that make her qualified for the job? Is that what is that what you're saying? Because when I was a little boy, I really really wanted to be a professional baseball player. I wanted to play for the St. Louis Cardinals. Now, imagine me going to the St. Louis Cardinals organization, going to someone on their farm system and saying, "Hey, I've wanted this since I was a kid. So, put me on the roster. I deserve this." And they would ask, "Why do you deserve this?" Exactly. Because I want it and I've always wanted it. Well, they would do well to be like, "Okay, we might give you a shot, but can you hit for average? Can you hit for power? Can you field well? Can you throw well? Can you run well? Can you play baseball?" there are a lot more questions that have to be asked as opposed to hey they've always wanted this job and I'm more of a George Washington Cincinnati kind of a guy the capable qualified but reluctant leader right you know if you know anything about those two guys they they were basically thrust into these positions of power against their will but they did it for the betterment of the society around them and so that it would provide for more human flourishing right so I I could really give a care less if somebody's wanted the job their entire life think about if you were a hiring hiring manager somewhere and someone's like, "Well, why should we hire you?" "Because I really want this job." That's not a great answer. But one of the main things that I'm seeing around because again, I'm from Laden. I have a lot of friends from Laden and I've I still know a lot of friends at least in a Facebook sense of people that I grew up with my entire life, graduated high school together, those types of things. They're really really concerned about the fact I know them. Why are you voting for this candidate? I know them. I remember playing on the playground with them. I remember being in class with them. Any of those types of things essentially I know them. To which point I would say and so great, you know them. This is kind of akin to when people like they maybe bandwagon onto a team, right? Because if that team wins, they get to feel good because they're on the team. So that's kind of the most innocent version of that. But then the more nefarious version of it is, hey, I know them and they can do something for me. So, I'm going to try to help them get into office, get into a position of power, help them to become a local magistrate so that they can do something for me because I got something I want to get done and I can leverage the fact that I've known this person for a long time and perhaps that will cause them to do what I want them to do. So, those are essentially some of the reasons why, you know, that people the things that they think matters when it comes to voting for a particular candidate, but we need to talk about what really matters when it comes to a candidate that someone should vote for. So there's several things. One would be whether the candidate knows what the government is for and what it is not for. So the government whether it's local or national or something like that, it is not for you to you know consummate some goal that you set when you were a child. It's not for you to gain power just for your own benefit. It's not for you to get your little pet projects that really only affect a a small percentage of your population to get those things done so that you can set yourself up for whatever your next run is. Okay? So, it's important that a candidate knows what the government is for and what the government is not for. Also, what really matters is whether the candidate will apply and enforce the law equally. So, a lot of people don't really think of their local magistrates or their governor or their president, senator, whatever you want to talk about. They don't think of this person as an arm of the judicial judicial judicial there it is side of their lives. Right? So they they look at laws and all these different things and they don't even know how a bill becomes law. They don't know any of these things. Right? But will they apply and enforce the law equally? Will they use equal weights and measures? Or will they apply the law more harshly on the people that they oppose and less harshly or not at all on the people that they like? Will they elevate certain populations within the population that's under their purview and control above others based on say mutable characteristics or things that they choose like who they want to have sex with and the types of clothes that they wear or any of those types of things. We need to look for candidates that are going to imply and enforce the law equally. And another thing that really matters is whether the candidate will be a good steward of the taxpayers's money. And we live in a time and a day where used to you could safely say, "Hey, the Democrats were going to just raise taxes and spend it on dumb crap." We can basically say the same thing about Republicans now across the board. They're going to, you know, raise taxes or find money otherwise and spend it on dumb crap. Like, I think we're basically at that point right now. So, if you're looking for a candidate that's going to be a good steward of the taxpayers's money, unfortunately, I feel like that ship has sailed at this point. But also something that really matters is that the candidate will think in generations, not news cycles. Now, one of the inherent problems with our system, it's a feature, not a bug, is that we we can't really think in generations. So, if you're elected to the United States House of Representatives, you're basically constantly campaigning because every two years there's a vote every two years. And if you get comfortable, like Dan Krenshaw got comfortable before or here very recently, you're out. you're doing something else, right? You're figuring out something else to do with your time. If you're a senator, it's not really like that. But if you're thinking in six-year terms, that's not like, you know, what we have in China where they're thinking in hundredyear terms. They're thinking in centuries, not news cycles. And so, I'm not certainly not advocating for the Chinese position on how they do uh their political world. But in this country, we kind of have this very short-term view of things. And if the news cycle is bad, we're going to change some of the things that we're saying. We see that a lot from Trump uh too in the in the second Trump u you know the presidential term. He's just kind of reacting to things that are happening in the news cycle and it's like we need to have a longer idea in mind and so that's what we should look for in our candidates. Candidates that are like hey I'm not just here in the governor's mansion for four years hopefully eight years I'm trying to create generational benefits for overall human flourishing for the long term by what I'm doing right now during my term. Also, something that really does matter when it comes to a candidate is whether the candidate is mentally up to the job. Okay, now this is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way, but I just have to call it like I see it. So, like I told you, I've known Cindy Mson since we were six or seven years old, right? Crosley Park Elementary School, and we were in a lot of the same classes, played in the same, you know, uh, recess playgrounds, we were in the same cafeteria, we did a lot of the same activities until we both got to seventh grade, which was at the time in Lton, Oklahoma. That was where, you know, we basically split off into middle school into uh, you know, junior high. That was 7th, 8th, and 9th, and then we were 10th, 11th, 12th in high school. So, in 7th grade, that's when they start doing some different testing, some different things. And they'll put you in what they call honors classes. And then eventually when you get more like into nth grade, there's pre-advanced placement, preap, and then there's AP, advanced placement classes, right? So, if any of y'all aren't familiar with that, essentially in in this country, there's classes that you can take in high school and then at the end of that class, at the end of that term, you can take a test and you could either get well, at the time it was a passing grade was either a three or four or a five, a one or a two, you didn't pass, a three or four or a five. And depending upon how well you did would equate directly to college credit. So, basically, you could test out of college courses at some point by, you know, basically passing a test in high school. So around seventh grade, I ended up in honors classes. Not a fantastic test taker, but uh good student um and I've got at least some uh mental acumen. And so I ended up in a lot of honors classes. Then I went into pre-AP and then I went into AP classes. I was the majority of my schooling uh through junior high and high school. From seventh grade on, I was never in another class with Cindy Mson. And it wasn't just because we went to at the time a 6A school not in Oklahoma. So, hey big school, there's too many of those classes. It was because I was able to intellectually perform in honors, preAP, and AP classes, and Cindy Mson was not. But then we need to get to my senior year of high school. So, at the time, uh there just there wasn't money for me to have all the options, uh in the world. I love my parents and they provided for me very well throughout my upbringing, but I couldn't like, you know, let's say I, you know, applied to go to KU or go to University of Florida or go to USC or something like that. Say I applied to one of these out of state schools and I was able to get in, there would have been no way for us to pay the out of state tuition. The idea of going into massive amounts of debt to get a degree just didn't make sense to me individually. It didn't make sense to my family. And so I knew my options were going to have to be instate. But even instate, Oklahoma State and OU, those two schools, it just would not have been realistic for me to go and get degrees at those places. Um, you know, I wasn't going to be getting athletic scholarships to pay for different things like that. And so my option initially, I only thought the option for me was going to be Cameron University in Lton, Oklahoma. So very small university. And you know, no shade to Cameron, but it's obviously that's not a lot of people are like, "Oh, you went to Cameron University? Yeah, let me definitely give you a job." It's just not the most rigorous place uh to get a degree. But I remember going in the counselor's office my senior year of high school. And I'm just looking at other colleges in Oklahoma that I had never heard of before. And I saw the University of Central Oklahoma in Edmund, Oklahoma. I had never heard of either Edund nor UCO. And then as I'm flipping through the application, because you can apply to most of these places obviously, and then there's minimum requirements for what you need to apply just to get into the school. But then there was something called the President's Leadership Council. And so basically what that is is there are about 25 incoming freshmen to the University of Central Oklahoma that are placed on the president's scholarship. Okay? There's well over a thousand applicants every year, but only 25 students are selected. And there are some requirements uh academically, but the majority of what you are getting the scholarship for is because of your leadership acumen. because in order to get this scholarship which was very very close to a full ride to the University of Central Oklahoma for four years it's it's the largest at least it was at the time when whenever I got it was the largest leadership scholarship in the entire state of Oklahoma in terms of dollars in terms of length all the different things right but you had to be involved on campus you had to be in student or organizations there was a minimum number of organizations that you had to serve in you had to be an officer in certain organizations and so it was a tremendous uh you know focus on leadership, right? And developing that leadership and, you know, spreading your leadership and helping out groups all over campus. But in order to get the PLC scholarship, there was a minimum GPA and a minimum ACT score. Okay? So, some of you uh, you know, aren't here in America, so you don't know what the ACT is. Some of you were in states that did the SAT, but in the in Oklahoma, basically the main test that we used was the ACT. A maximum score on the ACT was 36. Okay, that's a perfect score on the ACT. And then I think the minimum score is like a 15 or something like that. I was like, as long as you, you know, fill out your name correctly or something like that, you're going to at least get a 15. But I believe at the time the cut off to even apply for PLC, the President's Leadership Council Scholarship at the University of Central Oklahoma was a 21. Now, for any of you that have taken the ACT or are familiar with the testing, a 21 is a really low score. That's not I mean, it's not poultry. It's not like in the teens, but a 21 is just not a good score. Like again, if you get into the 30s, you're going to get into different things like National Merit Scholarships. I mean, if you're scoring like a 34, 35, 36, you're basically writing your ticket to just about any four-year college in the country, okay? you're really separating yourself. A 21's not good. And so, here it comes. I put in my application. Uh, you know, I I got well past the the minimum of the ACT. I was, you know, 4.0 straight A student. I was very involved in high school. And so, I just applied for the scholarship. I never thought I would get an interview. Okay. But I got an interview. Okay. This is awesome. Like, this is this is my chance to get out of my hometown. I mean, I mean, a lot of you can kind of level with that. You know, I got to get out of my hometown. I got to do something else. I got to like spread my legs. a little bit. So, I go and I do the interview, drive up there, and I think I bombed it, right? I mean, there's like 10 people in the room. They're they're grilling you in a very very nice way because this is a huge scholarship, a huge amount of money. And so, I think I bomb it. Like, I could feel myself walk in there and get red, right? Cuz as a ginger, we kind of get red when we get all hot and bothered. And I could feel it, right? I'm like, "Oh my gosh, like my my answers are stupid. I felt like I was sweaty. Like, this is bad, right?" And so a few weeks go by. I'm just thinking I blew it. Got to, you know, get ready to live on campus at Cameron in Lton, Oklahoma or whatever. And I get a letter in the mail. And I'm at my dad's house at the time. My mom calls me and says, "Hey, you got a letter from the University of Central Oklahoma. I think you should come by." My dad drives me by. I'll never forget it. I mean, the longest drive of my life, you know, it was probably 7 minutes, but the longest drive of my life. I can barely talk. I feel like I'm going to throw up. And I'm just like, "Dang it." and you you try to like mom was it a was it a big packet? Was it just a you know a letter folded up trifold or something like that? You're trying to get some sort of a tell. And then I go in I grab the letter I go back out or I I open it there and I go back out to my dad's car and I just hand him the letter and he reads it and it shows that I had been accepted and offered a scholarship for the President's Leadership Council at the University of Central Oklahoma. And my dad's not a super emotional guy, but he b he burst into tears and like it was just this huge moment and it's like, "Oh my gosh, I'm going to be a University of Central Oklahoma Bronco. I don't know what Edmond's all about, but it it seems like a great place to live." And you know, all that was all good. But apparently it wasn't all good for everybody because I remember the the word spreading pretty quickly because that's the the time period where, you know, you kind of figure out where kids are going to school like, "Oh, this person got a basketball scholarship to go here. Oh, this person, you know, got a scholarship to to go there. Oh, this person got like a 34 on their ACT, so they're a National Merit Scholar. They're going to go to OU. Okay. Well, you know, this person's going to the Naval Academy. One of my buddies got accepted to all he got Air Force, uh, West Point, and the Naval Academy. He got all these scholarships. And it was so awesome uh that one of my good buddies got that and he went that route. And so, word got around that I had gotten the PLC scholarship at UCO. I was one of the 25 incoming freshmen that applied for this scholarship that was going to get it. But not everyone was excited. A lot of people were, but not everyone was. There was this faction of people that were like, "Well, Kyle didn't deserve it." To to which I was very surprised by, well, what do you mean I didn't deserve it? Like, I I met all the minimum requirements, far exceeded them. I put in my application. I drove up there, did the interview, and then a committee of people that not just the interview committee, uh, but also the application committee, they all decided that I was clearly somebody that was deserving of the SC scholarship. Well, apparently Cindy Mson thought that she was entitled to that scholarship. She was entitled to it. And as you can imagine, just think about this. There's only 25 slots. Almost all the applicants come from inside of Oklahoma. And so, as a scholarship committee, you can't really give two scholarships to two kids at the same school, regardless of the size, small school, big school, whatever. And in all my years in PLC and since, I can't remember two incoming freshmen coming from the same senior class of the same school. Like in subsequent years, you'll get kids from some of the same schools and all those types of things, but I just can't remember two kids being from the same high school at the same time because again, they they kind of want to spread it around. And there were a lot of people, including I think her name was Miss Lavender. She was uh like the she was she ran like the student council or you know, student president, body president, all those different things. They were furious that I got this scholarship and not Cindy Mson. And so I'm like, well, I mean, did she apply? Like, you know, why are y'all getting mad at me? Like, y'all should be happy that someone got basically a full ride scholarship out of this high school. Well, come to find out, she couldn't make the ACT requirement. I don't know what her score was when she tried to, you know, take this test and get a certain score, but she couldn't even make a 21 on the ACT. She's real nice. She was student body president my senior year. She still made her way to UCO and had a great impact on the student body there while she was there. But she didn't have the intellectual capacity or acumen to do better than a 21 on the ACT exam. So, when I'm looking at a candidate and let's say I know them, let's say I like them, let's say they're real sweet and real charming, can they mentally stand up to the job? Because you, again, the vote is not a valentine. Thank you, Joshton, for that great quote. But also, when we're looking at somebody that we're trying to put in the governor's mansion, this person's going to be essentially the the manager of the state, if you will. I think all of us have had a manager at some point. They're managing the entire state. the budgets, right, that they're they're over the different chambers of the local government. They're going to have a tremendous impact on legislation that is passed or vetoed in the state. And so, shouldn't we want candidates that have the mental and intellectual capacity to do something like that? But you might think like, Kyle, okay, yeah, that maybe that maybe she's just a bad test taker. Like, look, she got her master's degree. Okay. I've seen a lot of these programs that have these leadership masters degrees and things like that. They're not intellectually rigorous programs. They're just not. Guys, I know people that have their PhDs that can barely read and write. And I'm not being hyperbolic. There's one guy in mind right now. He's a tremendous man. I love this man. But he's not a smart man, but he has his PhD. Like, he expects to be called Dr. Soandso. So you just have to be realistic. Like there are people that have degrees on the wall but don't have sense. There are people that have degrees on the wall but they don't have the intellectual capacity to take on complicated things. Right? So we should look for candidates that are mentally up to the job. But then the last thing that we really should look for things that actually are important when it comes to looking for a candidate is whether whether the candidate will protect the vulnerable people under their leadership. Which leads us to this. If you go to Cindy Mson's page, if you go to her website, this is where you can get all the information you want, all the filtered information that her campaign wants to try to convince you to vote for her. If you scroll down just a hair, you're we're still on the homepage of her website. You can go and check it out for yourself. Just type in, you know, Cindy Mson. That's c y ndi. Mson, mu ns o n. Scroll right down and she has a top four priorities list and we'll actually uh we'll go and put those up on the screen. Thank you, Landon. We'll put those up on the screen right now. So, you see provide tax relief for everyday Oklahomaman, right? Sounds good, but the translation is let's tax the rich Oklahoma business owners that are actually the ones creating the jobs and companies for Okis to work at. So, there's that one. Then you see on the list lower health care costs for Oklahomaans. how exactly is she she going to do that? You know, it's kind of shrug emoji like oh, we don't really know, but it's really nice to say. Then we see invest in public schools and raise teacher pay. Now, I'm not going to spend a whole lot of time on this, but these we need more funding in public schools people, one thing that they never provide is evidence that increased public school funding and increased teacher pay leads directly to better intellectual and scholastic outcomes for students. We don't see any of that data. You know why? Because it essentially doesn't exist. Because there are a lot of school districts in the United States of America that their per pupil funding is astonishingly high. They pay their teachers very very well. And the kids are graduating from high school and they're illiterate. They can't read, nor can they write. They can't do basic math. [clears throat] They're they're not ready for college. They're not ready to just exist in the world. They can't read street signs, right? But we're just going to invest more money in public schools. For what reason? I don't know. Again, shrug emoji. And here's the other thing. A lot of teachers in Oklahoma years ago, they oh man, they raised Kane. They raised hell about the fact that they need to be paid more. We're losing teachers to Texas and Arkansas and all these other different places and all that. Not a single one of those people could show me how increasing their teacher pay would make them a better teacher. Because if we just across the board raise teacher pay, well, guess what? The the excellent teachers are going to be excellent, the good teachers will stay good, the crappy teachers will stay crappy. Like, giving a crappy employee a raise doesn't make them a better employee. It makes them a more entitled employee. Because I think the school system should work just like the private sector. Because if you've got a bevy of employees all roughly doing the same job, your low performers get fired in a downsizing, they're the first ones on the list. And so there's an incentive to be better at your job because if you don't get better, you will get a different job somewhere else and we will help you gather your things and get you out the door. So, but she's really really focused on investing in public schools and raising teacher pay because those things in and of themselves is apparently going to solve the the issues that we have with education in Oklahoma. But then this is the one that we need to really really focus in on. It's at the very bottom. Repeal Oklahoma's abortion ban. Repeal Oklahoma's abortion ban. So, one of her main priorities is to create a pathway for more women to murder their children in the womb in Oklahoma. It's one of her main priorities. It's not like a side thing. I remember her launch ad I watched. She mentioned reproductive health care, which is a euphemism for we're going to suck babies through a vacuum tube, suck them, like tear their bodies to pieces, and then just throw them away in a trash can. It's one of her main priorities. I mean, just think about it. A center point of her campaign, one of her main focuses is that she wants to make it easier for women to murder their babies in the womb in Oklahoma. You understand that? It's one of her main things. Again, I'm just going to hit that over and over because I've seen a lot of posts. I don't spend a lot of time on Facebook, but when you go on Facebook, you basically get people that are in your area. Those are going to be the posts that you're going to see outright. And first, I see a lot of people, you know, I'm a Republican, but I'm going to vote for Cindy Mson. Why? Because, you know, I like her because she's real nice. And I've seen a lot of Christians, people that go to church, people that say they love Jesus that got Cindy Mson green campaign signs sitting in their lawns. They're making public posts that they plan to proudly vote for Cindy Mson who wants no restrictions on abortion in Oklahoma. Need I remind you that being a pro-choice, otherwise known as pro-abortion Christian is not a thing. It's not a thing. If you call yourself a Christian and simultaneously say that we should be able to kill children in the womb, then I just have to say you don't even understand the imo day, which is that we are made in the image of God. that from the moment of conception, we know this scientifically, but even if we didn't, from the moment of conception, when a one-led sperm cell from dad meets a one-sellled egg cell from mom, they create a one- cellled zygote. In that moment, we have human life. All of your DNA is present in that moment. You just need time to cook, right? When you're a one cell zygote, you're just at one stage of development, but then you're processing nutrition. You're you're growing in size. There's cell division taking place. There's all kinds of beautiful things that are happening in the womb because God made it that way. And if it were up to Cindy Mson, she would want to make sure that we could kill more of those babies than we currently do. She hates the fact that it is so unbelievably hard for women in this state and you know the men that are standing by them and supporting them and in some cases actually you know trying to force them to do this. She laments the fact that it's so difficult to do. And again [clears throat] for for the so-called Christians out there that are supporting her it it's really just one of two things. Either they don't know this about her. They don't know that she's so unbelievably proabortion which makes them ignorant. or they know this about her and they don't care. And if you're in that latter category, you're complicit in that evil. It also shows that you have a bit of a seared conscience that you could look at a candidate and go, [gasps] "Yeah, she wants more babies to be killed." Uh, you know, the most vulnerable Oklahomaans, right, are not the poor, are not the destitute, are not the ones in prison. It's the babies inside the wombs of their mothers, right? Yeah. I I know she she wants us to to do all that, but gosh darn it, she's just so nice. I really like the fact that she went with green on her signs and she wears green dresses and oh, she smiles a lot and you know, I'm not a huge fan of of MAGA and she kind of punches MAGA and I so I kind of like that. And you know, she may even wear a cross necklace from time to time even though she can't really tell you the gospel, right? even if she could say it, it's not a reality for her in her life because again, being a proabortion Christian is not a thing. It's not a category. We shouldn't be putting category designations before the word Christian anyway, right? There's no such thing as a southern Christian or a gay Christian or an LGBTQ Christian or a pro-abortion Christian. You're a Christian and then everything else should be downstream from that particular identity. And I wish when it came to Cindy Mson and the fact that she's running and so many of my soft-headed friends and people that I know and love that have been romanced by this idea of her becoming the next governor because they like her. I wish that was the only thing that was wrong with her. I mean, for me, if I liked everything else about her platform, the fact that she's so proabortion is enough to make her disqualified from office. And you got I can hear it all. Don't be a oneisssue voter. Okay? If your one issue is tax policy, if your one issue is, you know, schooling, if your one issue is like funding for special projects, yeah, maybe don't make that your one issue. But if the one issue is that this candidate has a tremendous desire for the blood of more children to be shed, yes, that is enough to say no, not on my watch. But that's not all because I told you she's been a representative in the House of Representatives here in the state of Oklahoma. She's been the minority leader since 2022. So, she's on the record on a lot of legislation in the state of Oklahoma. So, here's something a lot of Okeis don't really understand and don't really know. Okay, so let's go to Senate Bill 612. This is from 2022. Abortion prohibiting performance of or attempt to perform abortion except under certain conditions providing penalties. A yes vote on SB 612 is make performing an abortion a felony except when necessary to save a pregnant woman's life, punishable by up to 10 years and a 10 years in prison and $100,000 fine. A no vote is rejecting that criminal prohibition. Cindy Mson voted no. Then the same year in 2022, there was Senate Bill 1503, the Oklahoma Heartbeat Act. A yes vote would prohibit most abortions after detectable embryionic cardiac activity subject to specified exceptions. A no vote would reject the heartbeatbased prohibition. Cindy Mson voted no. Then in 2022, there was House Bill 4327, abortion prohibiting performance of abortion except under certain conditions. A yes vote would establish a private civil enforcement mechanism and prohibit abortion beginning at fertilization with limited exceptions. A no vote would reject the near total abortion prohibition and a private civil enforcement system. Cindy Mson voted no. In 2021, House Bill 1775 education prohibitions certain training for students prohibiting courses from including certain concepts. A yes vote would prohibit public schools and colleges from requiring certain race or sex related concepts, including collective responsibility or inherent oppression based on race or sex. A no vote would allow existing school and university authorities over the uh to provide authority over such instruction without these statewide restrictions. Ciney Mson voted no. So she wants our children to be educated in a way that shows that hey, if you're white, you're an oppressor. If you're intersectional, you're oppressed. She wants that in the classroom. She also wants the sexed stuff in classroom. All all the gender bending stuff there. And so speaking of the gender stuff, Senate Bill 613 from 2023, healthc care prohibiting gender transition procedures for children. You paying attention? You should be. A yes vote would prohibit health professionals from providing specified gender transition medications and procedures to minors with licensing and civil penalties. A no vote would preserve the legality of that treatment under existing medical rules. Cindy Mson voted no. Then there's House Bill 2177 from 2023, prohibition on gender affirming care for minors. A yes vote would enact another version of a prohibition on specified gender transition care for minors. A no vote would be a rejection of the prohibition. Cindy Mson voted no. Then we have House Bill 2546 from 2023, prohibition on instruction concerning sexual orientation or gender identity. A yes vote would restrict instruction or discussion concerning sexual orientation and gender identity in public schools. A no vote would leave no such instruction governed by existing curriculum and local school uh rules or actually would leave such instruction rather governed by existing curriculum and local school rules. Cindy Mson voted no. Then in 2023 we have House Bill 1449, Women's Bill of Rights. A yes vote would define woman, man, female, male, mother, and father in state law, principally according to biological sex. A no vote would reject those statewide statutory definitions. Cindy Mson voted no. Now, let's talk about school bathrooms. So, in 2022, Senate Bill 615, a yes vote would require public school students to use restrooms corresponding to sex designated at birth or just noticed at birth or a single occupancy accommodation. A no vote would allow schools to retain broader discretion, including policies based on gender identity, otherwise allowing boys to use girls restrooms. Cindy Mson voted no. Let's talk about prison bathrooms. Senate Bill 418 from 2025. A yes vote would require sex-based bathroom designations in the Department of Corrections facilities. A no vote would reject the statutory designation requirement. Cindy Mson voted no. So that opens the door for men in women's prisons here in the United States. No, not just US, obviously the state of Oklahoma. Then in 2023, we have House Bill 1934, Oklahoma Parental Choice Tax Credit Act. A yes vote would create refundable income tax credits for private school tuition and credits for qualifying homeschool expenses. The final legislation also included public school funding and teacher pay provisions. A no vote rejected the combined package, principally its private education tax credit system. Cindy Mson voted no. So she doesn't want school choice. She doesn't want you to send your kid to a parochial school or to a Christian private school or things like that. She wants your kids to rot in the public school system. Then in 2024, there was House Bill 4156, Oklahoma Survivors Act, state immigration enforcement legislation. A yes vote would create the state crime of impermissible occupation for a person unlawfully present in Oklahoma and authorized removal orders after conviction. A no vote is reject creation of the state immigration crime and removal process. Ciney Mson voted no. So, she wants as many illegal immigrants as is possible, at least to her benefit, in the state of Oklahoma, and doesn't want a legal recourse to remove them. Then, in 2025, we had House Bill 1362. A yes vote would make spec specified unlawful immigration conduct a state felony. A no vote was rejecting the new state felony. Cindy Mson voted no. Again, she's a huge fan of illegal immigration. 2025, there was Senate Bill 20. A yes vote would require commercial driver's license holders to demonstrate or maintain specified English language proficiency. In other words, be able to read English. A no vote would reject the additional state requirement. Ciney Mson voted no. And guys, that's just a selection. That's just a selection. So, no matter how you slice it, no matter how nice she is, no matter how much you like her, Cindy Mson is a far-left progressive Democrat. That's not me saying that. That's her voting record saying that. That's her website saying that. And just keep this in mind. We don't just get the parts of the candidate that we like when we vote them in the office. We get the whole candidate. This was part of the issue with people that were like, "Oh, I don't really like Trump. He's he's kind of a sleazy guy." Uh, you know, but then we have Kla Harris on the other side. What do I do? It's like, well, you you vote for the candidate that will lead to the least amount of human decay, lead to the most amount of human flourishing, but you get the whole candidate. And again, let's let's expand this out beyond the state of Oklahoma. We have people listening to this right now in the state of Texas. You don't really like Paxton. Terarico seems like an absolute creepy, freaky weirdo. But then you're like, well, he at least sounds nicer on camera than Paxton does. But you don't get the parts you like, guys. You get the whole candidate. You're in Michigan right now. You're you're thinking about voting for Al say in Canada or sorry, not Canada, but in Michigan. It's basically Canada. But at that point, you're like, well, wait, well, I like these parts. Like the other guys just kind of generic Republican like I don't necessarily want to do that. Maybe we need some change. You know, Al seems real nice and those kinds of things. You get the whole candidate. So, you might like how they feel and how they talk about and how they've legislated and voted on particular aspects. You may like their personality. You may want to have a beer with them, but that's not what you're voting for. You're voting for how they will legislate. Again, I'm on record saying, "I don't know that Donald Trump is a Christian." We should be really careful judging salvation, but if I'm looking at the fruit of his life, I don't see gospel repentance in his life. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see gospel repentance in his life. I also don't think that Donald Trump is pro-life in his heart. Like his honest to goodness truth, I don't think he's pro-life. But for the most part, he's legislated in a pro-life way. He got on three justices on the Supreme Court who all voted to overturn Roie Wade and Planned Parenthood vase, right? So, I don't necessarily care how they feel or what they signal. I care how they legislate. I care what bills they're going to sign into law. I care about what things they're going to veto. That's what I care about. Again, we don't just get part of the candidate, we get the whole thing. And so, as we get to the end here, you may, you know, recognize the name of the episode, why you should vote for Cindy Mson. So, let's use this as a summary. If you want a leftist progressive Democrat governing the state of Oklahoma, by all means, vote for Cindy Mson. If you think that a 40-some year old woman that has never been married and never had kids is the right person to make substantive changes to how the state runs, which will directly impact families and children in Oklahoma, by all means, vote for Cindy Mson. If you want a governor that showed limited intellectual capacity throughout their education, by all means, vote for Cindy Mson. If you want a governor that has never run a business nor signed the front of a check to be in charge of the legislation that directly impacts business owners in Oklahoma, by all means, vote for Cindy Mson. If you want a governor to protect and harbor illegal immigrants in the state of Oklahoma, by all means, vote for Cindy Mson. If you want a governor that will let boys play on girls sports teams and let those boys use the same bathrooms and locker rooms as girls, by all means, vote for Cindy Mson. If you're not a Christian and want to quicken the decay of society, by all means, vote for Cindy Mson. If you want a governor that will make it more difficult for parents to prevent their gender confused children from mutilating their bodies, by all means, vote for Cindy Mson. And if you want a governor that will advocate for and sign legislation that will directly lead to the murder of more unborn Oklahomaans in the womb, by all means, vote for Cindy Mson. But if you don't like any of that stuff, and if you don't want someone in the Oklahoma Governor's Mansion who's going to legislate in those ways, then by all means, don't vote for Cindy Mson. I certainly won't. Thank you everyone for listening to this episode. Wherever you're listening to this, please subscribe, rate, and leave us a positive five-star review. If you want me to come speak live at your event or on your podcast, just shoot me an email to info@undaunted.life. Follow us on Instagram and like us on Facebook and check out our website for everything else, including how to donate to keep more content like this coming. www.undaunted.life. The music on this podcast is the song Conqueror by the Christian metal band Void Awaken. Be sure to stream their music on Spotify, Apple Music, and wherever else you get your music. I'm your host, Kyle Thompson. Remember, keep pushing back darkness. Keep forging spiritual, mental, and physical resilience. Keep seeking the Lion of Judah.