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No, Christians Should Not Support Student Loan “Forgiveness” (Ep. 352)

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No, Christians Should Not Support Student Loan “Forgiveness” (Ep. 352)
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In this episode, I tackle the absurdity of student loan forgiveness and why Christians should reject it. This isn't just a financial issue; it's a moral one that transfers the burden of debt from those who made poor choices to hardworking taxpayers who did the right thing.
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0:00 This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast.
0:21 I'm your host Kyle Thompson, let's get into it.
0:24 And you who are dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made
0:28 alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses by canceling the record
0:33 of debt that stood against us with its legal demands.
0:36 This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.
0:38 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame by triumphing over
0:42 them in him.
0:43 That is Colossians two, 13 through 15.
0:46 We're going to be talking a lot about debt today.
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2:27 There is a link in the show notes that if you are coming and bringing your children, we
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2:31 They will not be there inside the event.
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3:19 I have been absolutely blown up about Matt Chandler today.
3:22 So I'm recording this on Monday.
3:24 And so you guys are hearing this in your ear holes properly on Wednesday.
3:27 But if you haven't heard by now, Matt Chandler, who again, we've talked about on this podcast
3:31 over and over and over and over again, huge fan of Matt Chandler, huge fan of his books
3:35 of his sermons, all those different things.
3:37 Apparently he's embroiled in some sort of a controversy right now.
3:40 And I wanted to address this because I knew for a lot of you, I mean, my phone has been
3:43 blowing up this morning.
3:45 So literally since the moment that I woke up, people ask me, Hey, what do you think about
3:48 this man Chandler thing?
3:49 What do you think about this match?
3:50 But for the most part, I'm not really going to give my full comments on this because we
3:53 don't really know that much seemingly.
3:55 So to summarize what I've what I've gathered from from the news and different things that
4:00 are being reported, you know, at different websites or whatever is apparently Matt Chandler,
4:04 the pastor was DMing with a woman.
4:07 And again, I guess a DM that is a private message.
4:10 But the thing there's so much about this that doesn't make any sense is we're being told
4:13 that the DMs were not sexual or inappropriate.
4:17 And we're being told that both of the spouses, right?
4:20 So Matt Chandler's wife and this gal's husband both knew these messages were going back and
4:24 forth.
4:25 And yet yesterday from the pulpit, Matt Chandler sit up there and basically said because of
4:29 these messages and because of this that it revealed an unhealth in him and I have no idea
4:33 what that word means.
4:34 Typically, people just use the word sin.
4:36 And so again, it's a very odd situation.
4:39 And most people have picked up on that by now.
4:41 This just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
4:43 Like if everything he was doing was on the up and up, then why didn't he and the elder
4:47 board just go basically tell people to pound sand?
4:49 Like apparently there was another person involved that got offended for somebody else.
4:52 And there was some sort of weird calculus going on that nobody can truly define for us.
4:56 So that that's all I have to say on this for right now.
4:59 I'm a fan of Matt Chandler.
5:00 I've seen nothing in any of these reports that would make me not be a fan of Matt Chandler.
5:05 I hope that he doesn't just get cascaded and categorized as just another evangelical that
5:10 sin-sexual ear that fell from grace or that.
5:12 Oh, he's the next, you know, whatever, you know, this guy that fell or that guy that
5:16 fell.
5:17 Hopefully that's not what's going to happen.
5:18 But I hope it's also not a leadership misstep by his elder board to overreact to something
5:23 that wasn't actually there to force your senior pastor to take a leave of absence when nothing
5:28 went wrong.
5:29 So I say all that to say that again, we don't know enough about it.
5:31 I'm not going to talk about it more until we know more and we may never know more, but
5:34 just kind of put a bow on this.
5:36 I would say this.
5:37 And I think I've said this about Matt Chandler before because I talked about how I love Matt
5:40 Chandler and I like Vodie Bakham and I love, you know, John MacArthur and all these different
5:43 guys.
5:44 It wouldn't surprise me if any of those guys did something very, very depraved.
5:49 It wouldn't.
5:50 Like if they cheated on their spouse or if they, you know, used to be a murder people
5:54 or these sort of like, I get, just think of the thing that you think is bad.
5:57 It would not surprise me with anybody because everybody does bad stuff.
6:01 It's a level of depravity that's different.
6:03 And it's your knowledge of that depravity that might be a little bit different.
6:07 So guys, don't idolize people, especially pastors.
6:11 And I've got some pastors that I know listen to this that I love.
6:14 I love these people.
6:15 I love what they do.
6:16 I love their sermons.
6:17 I love their friendship and I love the value that they provide, you know, even just specifically
6:20 to me, but I shouldn't be surprised if they fall and they shouldn't be surprised if I
6:24 fall because we're fallen creatures.
6:26 Now we should call each other to a higher standard and all these other different areas.
6:30 But again, if you're cheering today because Matt Chandler failed from grace, you're a [inaudible]
6:34 and you're a terrible person.
6:36 And that's sinful, right?
6:37 I don't think you should be doing that.
6:38 But also if you're only coming to his defense and saying, regardless of what anyone knows,
6:42 he's my man.
6:43 I love his stuff and I'm going to defend him wholeheartedly.
6:45 I think that's pretty stupid as well.
6:47 So let's just try to be so reminded about this and let's all just realize that we simply
6:52 do not know what's going on in this situation.
6:55 But all we know is it stinks to high heaven and the, you know, basically the line we're
6:59 getting from him and the line we're getting from the church doesn't make a whole heck
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7:36 Guys, we're already like seven minutes in here and I haven't even got to announcing what
7:39 the quick hitters are, but what we're going to be talking about today is going to maybe
7:42 take us quite a bit of time.
7:43 So I don't even know if I'm going to get to these quick hitters by the end of this.
7:46 I may leave it for next week or a little bit later this week or something like that.
7:49 But if we do have time in the quick hitters segment, we're going to discuss Mark Zuckerberg
7:52 of Facebook telling Joe Rogan on the Joe Rogan experience that the FBI instructed him to throttle
7:58 the Hunter Biden laptop bombshell prior to the 2020 election.
8:01 A woke pastor in Australia saying churches should quote create space for gender inclusive
8:06 bathrooms.
8:07 Unquote also the greatest doctor in the history of medicine, obviously Dr. Fauci announcing
8:11 he's retiring at the end of the year and a K through 12 school in my own backyard has
8:16 hired a pro CRT DEI firm to train its teacher.
8:21 So CRT means critical race theory and DEI is diversity, equity and inclusion.
8:26 But obviously we need to spend the overwhelming majority of our time today talking about what
8:30 Joe Biden announced last week, which was the cancellation or forgiveness of student loan
8:35 debts.
8:36 And so let me go ahead and read this from CNBC.
8:39 President Joe Biden announced last Wednesday that he will forgive $10,000 in federal student
8:43 debt for most borrowers, fulfilling a campaign pledge and delivering financial relief to millions
8:47 of Americans.
8:48 Imagine, like, just remember delivering financial relief.
8:51 So again, it's CNBC.
8:52 So here we go.
8:53 Biden will cancel up to 20,000 for recipients of Pell grants.
8:56 And then this is a quote here, both of these targeted actions are for families who need
9:00 it the most.
9:01 The president said in remarks at the White House Wednesday afternoon, the relief will
9:05 be limited to Americans earning under 125,000 per year, or a quarter of a million dollars
9:09 for married couples or heads of household.
9:12 The relief is also capped at the amount of the borrowers outstanding eligible debt per
9:16 the education department.
9:17 The president will also extend the payment pause on federal or most federal student loans,
9:22 one final time through December of 2022.
9:25 So skipping down a little bit here, Biden's decision to move ahead with $10,000 in student
9:29 loan debt cancellation for borrowers who earn under $125,000 per year will cost the federal
9:34 government around $244 billion.
9:38 According to higher education expert, Mark can trowets.
9:40 So little aside here from the CNBC article, according to Pin Wharton and their budget model,
9:46 which, you know, again, you know, who knows how close this is going to be, this is going
9:49 to end up costing Americans between 300 billion and 980 billion over the next 10 years.
9:56 So not the 244 that's being, you know, reported by CNBC, but somewhere between 300 billion
10:01 and 980 billion with the B dollars in the next 10 years.
10:05 So back to CNBC here, the $20,000 in relief for Pell Grant recipients may add around 120
10:11 billion to the government's costs.
10:13 The unprecedented action by the White House of wiping out hundreds of billions of dollars
10:16 in consumer debt follows years of advocacy pressure in recent months of heated debate
10:21 among Biden administration officials.
10:24 Those discussions centered on how student loan forgiveness might impact the high inflation
10:27 hitting Americans wallets, the amount of student debt that should be canceled.
10:31 And if the president even had the power to reduce people's balances without the legislative
10:35 branch.
10:36 So there's a lot to unpack there.
10:38 And most other pundits and other people in other news shows, they're unpacking all the
10:41 details of this.
10:43 We don't even know what all this is going to look like.
10:46 But just to kind of before we dig in, I know that some of the numbers can get really complicated
10:51 and you know, how much is this person getting versus how much, you know, that person's getting
10:54 and let's make it really, really simple.
10:56 Like guys, let's make it simple here, a single college graduate.
10:59 Okay.
11:00 So just have this person in your mind, a single college graduate making six figures, okay,
11:05 living in their preferred city, going out as much as they'd like, driving the car they
11:09 want to drive, going to music festivals, living it up and having no problem paying all of
11:14 their bills.
11:16 They're going to have part of or all of their student loans paid off by a combined population
11:22 that is likely making a fraction of what this person is making.
11:27 And those people will be getting no relief of any of their debts that they have.
11:33 That's the scenario we're looking at because people are pretending like $125,000 a year
11:38 is not that much money.
11:40 There are a lot of people in my audience in any audience that would love something even
11:44 near that amount and could do tremendous things for them and their family.
11:48 But those are the people that are being targeted here.
11:50 So right from the jump before we really, really dig into the analysis of all this is I have
11:55 to admit that I don't actually think that this will happen.
11:58 Okay.
11:59 At least not right now.
12:00 So surely this is going to be challenged in court.
12:03 This seems deeply unconstitutional.
12:05 I'm pretty certain and a lot of people are pretty certain that the Biden administration
12:08 and Joe Biden individually don't actually have the authority to do this unilaterally.
12:12 It seems like Congress would need to be involved.
12:15 There's no idea.
12:16 I have no idea why this doesn't ram through why they would just ram this through Congress
12:20 right now because he likely has the votes in both, you know, the house in the Senate.
12:24 So I don't know why they're not just doing it that way.
12:27 Also this is just so clearly and blatantly a ploy for more votes in the midterm elections.
12:31 You know, trying to bump up his approval rating as gas starts to, you know, little, little
12:35 by little come down and then by November, getting all the people get the warm fuzzies
12:39 to go out and vote.
12:40 So there's that, but we need to break this down as if it will happen.
12:44 Again, I'm, I'm, I'm dubious whether it'll actually happen, but let's break it down as
12:48 if it were to happen.
12:49 So I want to do a little sidebar before we break down what the news means because we're
12:54 going to break it down in a couple of interesting ways.
12:55 We need to talk about higher education in general.
12:58 Okay.
12:59 Now, I'm saying this as somebody with a master's degree.
13:01 I got my master's in business administration, graduated top of my class in an undergrad.
13:05 I got an undergraduate degree in corporate communication with a minor in leadership, again
13:08 graduating top of my class.
13:09 So I was a hired guy.
13:10 I used to work in higher education.
13:12 I worked in the, the president's office of a university and you know, like the, the whole
13:16 nine yards.
13:17 So like I'm very familiar with that world, but the overwhelming majority of people that
13:21 get college degrees will end up getting jobs that have nothing to do with that degree.
13:25 Okay.
13:26 And I was one of those people, right?
13:27 Cause communications kind of a broad degree and business kind of broad degree, but I certainly
13:31 have worked jobs over the last, you know, 15 years or so that had nothing to do with
13:35 my degree.
13:36 Now, there's a lot of reasons why people will get a degree in something that leads to a
13:40 job that they don't want to do.
13:41 So they end up doing something else.
13:43 They get a degree in something that doesn't, you know, aid them in getting the job that
13:46 they do want to do, right?
13:48 So they got this degree, but they need that degree.
13:50 You know, and then they've got this dissonance and some people just suck and no one wants
13:53 to hire them.
13:54 So it doesn't matter what degree you get.
13:56 You're just an awful worker.
13:57 You're bad at interviews.
13:58 Like, you know, there's any number of reasons, but again, the overwhelming majority of people
14:02 that get these college degrees don't end up going and working in jobs in those fields.
14:06 Because the reality is is what college should be is it should be something you should need
14:11 to do if you need a credential, okay?
14:14 So you need credentialing, literal credentialing.
14:17 If you want to be a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer, a chemist, you know, fill in the blank pharmacist,
14:22 you know, on and on and on, you need legitimate credentials in order to do those things.
14:26 But for all the other degrees, you don't really need that.
14:30 And also, no one should be going to college to quote, unquote, find themselves.
14:34 I mean, how many times did you do you hear that where someone's just a listless, you
14:37 know, 18 or 19 year old and then they go to college to try to discover who they're going
14:40 to be in the world, right?
14:42 While they're paying someone tens of thousands of dollars for the privilege of teaching them
14:46 stuff from textbooks that were written five years ago, which makes them four years too
14:50 old.
14:51 Okay.
14:52 Also, look at how many, you know, people like again, we talk about these people that have,
14:56 you know, these jobs have nothing to do with their degree.
14:58 Even look at, you know, homemakers, look at staying home moms that have undergraduate
15:01 or even I know state home moms have graduate degrees.
15:04 I mean, and for the most part, that's a complete waste because they never thought forward
15:08 in their life.
15:09 They always thought they were going to be, you know, in their power suit in the corner
15:11 office.
15:12 And now here they are raising two, three, four kids or something like that.
15:15 And by no means am I talking down on those people like to a certain degree, they're doing
15:20 some of the most core work to our foundations of it as a society, but think of all that
15:24 time and money and just brain space wasted on something that they're never going to use
15:29 in the home.
15:30 And then there's so many people that are like that.
15:32 And here's the other thing.
15:33 In 2022, for the most part, guys, you don't need a college degree to get an education because
15:39 the point should be education, not credentialing.
15:42 Again, no one has ever looked at my diploma or my transcript or my GPA and been like,
15:47 wow, 4.0 in your MBA program, huh?
15:50 No one's done that.
15:51 They're worried about whether or not I can think lead in problem solve, right, which
15:55 takes education to undergird those things.
15:58 That's the scaffolding under which you can do those things.
16:00 But here's the thing, how much of the stuff that you guys learned, just ask yourself this,
16:03 how much of the stuff that you learned in college was obsolete knowledge by the time
16:07 you graduated, especially if you're in like the STEM fields or some sort of like a, you
16:12 know, really kind of, you know, tough thing that you need to do, how much of that stuff
16:16 even still applied by the time you graduated.
16:18 And my boy Chad Prather pointed this out last week, he made the comment, but you can, you
16:22 can obviously get a degree without getting an education and in the opposite, you can
16:28 get an education without getting a degree, but it seems somewhat rare that people get
16:32 both of those things.
16:34 I mean, I already told you like I graduate top of my class, but there were classes that
16:37 I got A's in because I was good at, you know, cracking the code of the syllabus and turning
16:42 papers in early so that I could rewrite the, you know, the things that weren't up to snuff
16:45 and like I was able to crack the code of a semester in and of a syllabus, but I didn't
16:50 learn anything in these classes.
16:51 I didn't retain any of this information.
16:53 I'm pretty good at memorizing things and then, you know, spouting it out the next day and
16:57 then just farting it out and moving on to the next thing.
17:00 So imagine the people that get an education without getting a degree, but then they can't
17:04 get a job, which kind of leads me to this businesses, businesses all over the country,
17:09 really all over the world are culpable in all of this because they lazily require degrees
17:14 in order for people to apply to work there.
17:15 I've worked to places like that before.
17:17 They would not consider people that didn't have a degree.
17:19 They use it kind of as a lazy sorting system.
17:22 And I think that these businesses should do away with their requirements to have a bachelor's
17:25 degree because they're going to have to start with scratch to train these employees anyways.
17:30 Like, have you ever heard of a business that hired people?
17:34 They required them to have bachelor's degrees or maybe they didn't require this as a better
17:37 example.
17:38 They didn't require them to have a degree of any kind, but they hired two people for the
17:40 same job.
17:41 One person didn't have a bachelor's degree.
17:44 The other one did have a bachelor's degree.
17:45 They start their trainings in different places, like, okay, hey, high school diploma guy,
17:50 you're going to start down here.
17:51 You're going to need about two more weeks of training because you're such an idiot or
17:53 that, you know, you didn't go to the fancy school for that long length of time.
17:56 But hey, Mr. and Mrs. Bachelor's degree, you're going to start in the advanced training.
18:00 Has you ever heard of something like that?
18:02 No, you certainly haven't because everybody starts on the same level because they haven't
18:05 done that job before because again, these college programs are not pumping out people
18:10 that know how to do the exact job for that exact company.
18:12 You have to train them anyway.
18:14 So these businesses that are holding on to, yeah, you got to have a college degree.
18:17 It's like, for what reason?
18:18 For what purpose?
18:19 There are dime a dozen now.
18:20 And also parents are culpable in all of this because they're encouraging their children
18:25 to go to college without the kid even having the foggiest idea what they're going to study
18:31 or what they want to do with their lives.
18:33 And partially it's because they want their kids to keep up.
18:36 All the other kids in their class got scholarships or they're going to the big state school or
18:39 they're going down to state or going, whatever.
18:41 And if you're the parent, when asked, Hey, where's your kid going to college next year?
18:45 If you say, yeah, they're going to take a year off to figure out what they really want
18:48 to do.
18:49 They may never even go to college that doesn't have the same ring to it.
18:52 And so parents just blindly say, yeah, we'll sign it for this debt or we'll pay for this
18:56 or we'll make our kid take out loans for something that is not even that valuable to them.
19:01 And it may be even not is the right isn't the right fit for them.
19:05 Maybe they should go and shadow someone for a year.
19:07 Maybe they should, you know, become an apprentice.
19:09 Maybe they should go to trade school.
19:10 There's a start a business.
19:12 There's all these other options aside from just, Oh, I guess I'll go to college.
19:16 And also we're delaying people growing up.
19:20 College is a, is a great way for people to delay the maturity process.
19:24 Okay.
19:25 And here's the other thing.
19:26 How many people do you know that actually finished college in four years?
19:31 I'm how many people I most people nowadays seem to have to go an extra semester or some
19:36 of the people an extra year or two because they changed their major two or three times
19:40 in order to finish.
19:41 Right.
19:42 And the reason why most people are getting graduate degrees now, this is what we see
19:45 in the data is because so many people have bachelor's degrees that a bachelor's degree
19:50 is the new high school diploma and a graduate degree is the new bachelor's degree.
19:54 Like that, that's a really tough spot for a lot of people to be in.
19:57 So that's, I guess my, my sidebar on higher education, but to get into more of a discussion
20:02 about what we were talking about in terms of the student loan forgiveness as it's called.
20:06 I was thinking through this for last week or so as I was collecting my thoughts and I
20:09 thought, okay, there's really two ways to break this down.
20:12 Okay.
20:13 There's politically and then there's spiritually and I think some of you already know where
20:17 I'm going to go on that side, but most of our focus will be on the political side, but
20:20 there is a tremendous spiritual element of this that I find to be just absolutely rich,
20:25 but just hang with me and we'll get there, but we need to talk about the political side
20:28 first and there's really lots to go over here, but let's start here.
20:33 There are lots of people saying that the loans are not being transferred, but they are being
20:39 legitimately forgiven.
20:40 There are people that just, they literally are just like, guys, the loans are being forgiven.
20:44 What do you, what are you freaking out about?
20:46 They're just going away.
20:47 Okay.
20:48 Like that, the people that own the loans are forgiving them.
20:51 This is a big deal.
20:52 This is great, but that is such a stupid point and people just don't realize it and it's
20:57 because like the federal government is quote, unquote, paying off the loans according to
21:02 these people, but you have to ask these people, where do you think the federal government gets
21:07 their money?
21:09 The federal government doesn't create a product, well, actually the one product they do technically
21:13 create the United States Postal Service has never made money for the most part.
21:17 They're operating in the, in the red almost every single year.
21:20 Okay.
21:21 So where do you think the Fed gets their money?
21:22 They get it from taxpayers.
21:24 So no, just from a factual point, these loans are not disappearing by new stretch of imagination.
21:31 The loan debt amounts are being transferred to a different party.
21:36 And just to make sure you understand them, because we're going to spend a lot more time
21:38 breaking that down, but just to make sure that you understand the magnitude of this.
21:42 This is the largest unilateral spending initiative by a president in the history of the country.
21:49 You can look at any president during wartime, during times where they're trying to, you
21:52 know, build up their, you know, their, I guess, leftists or communists, you know, bona fides,
21:57 like it there.
21:58 This is the biggest unilateral spending initiative that we've ever seen.
22:03 So if you thought Barack Obama spent money, if you thought George W Bush spent money, if
22:06 you thought Trump spent money, whoa, buddy, like this, this is next level.
22:10 So we just need to understand that.
22:13 But in addition to that, this is perhaps the largest transfer of wealth in the history
22:18 of the United States as well.
22:20 Essentially, it's working class Americans, you know, like most of you listening to this
22:26 right now, that are going to be paying off the debts of people that are wealthier than
22:31 they are.
22:34 Have you heard people say it that way?
22:36 Because that's the real way that you should look at this.
22:38 I mean, because the reality is, is that this is a tax on poorer people to the redounding
22:43 benefit of richer people.
22:46 And the reason is is because over 50%, I think the actual numbers like 56%, but over 50%
22:52 of student loan debt that's currently outstanding in the United States was taken out for people
22:57 to get graduate degrees.
23:00 Now bachelor's graduate degrees.
23:02 So these people got a useless bachelor's degree and then decided to double down on higher
23:07 education and get a useless master's degree and/or doctorate.
23:10 They went all the way to the PhD level.
23:13 And now me and all of you have to pay for it.
23:17 That's why it's the largest wealth transfer in history, because people that decided not
23:21 to do that are going to be paying for it.
23:26 Because the reality is is around 13% of Americans have student loan debt.
23:32 But the government and the Biden administration's grand idea is that 100% of Americans that
23:38 pay taxes will pay those 13% of Americans debts off.
23:43 I mean, just think about that, 87% of Americans don't have student loan debt.
23:48 But 100% of American taxpayers are going to be paying off the debt.
23:52 How in the world does that make sense?
23:54 Okay.
23:55 And I know a lot of you guys have thought through this and you've felt this I certainly
23:58 have as well.
24:00 But this is the ultimate slap in the face to doodleful, hardworking, responsible Americans
24:06 that either never went to college and got a job or started a business that went to college
24:11 but got scholarships that went to college but paid for it themselves, you know, they went
24:15 to college and worked the whole way through to pay for it themselves that went to college
24:19 and then worked a plan after graduating to pay off their loans, you know, et cetera.
24:24 So on and so forth, this is the ultimate slap in the face of those people.
24:28 It's like, Hey, idiots, you did the right thing, but we're going to pay off all these
24:32 other people that for doing large part aren't doing the right thing.
24:36 Because all these people are like, Oh, I'm being crushed by my student loan debt is terrible.
24:39 But it's just like that scenario I brought you earlier, these people are getting the
24:43 brand new iPhone.
24:44 They have five or six different streaming services that they're subscribed to.
24:47 They go out to four or five nights a week.
24:49 They're going to festivals.
24:50 They're traveling, they're driving their chosen dream car, all those different things, but
24:55 they can't help their student loans.
24:57 They need our help.
24:58 They need your Biden's help.
25:00 But as I was thinking through this, and this is kind of a, you know, morbid macabre thing
25:04 to think through, but I haven't really heard anyone else say it, is what about the vets
25:09 that paid for their tuition by serving in the military, you know, like the GI bill?
25:15 Think about the people that died in the Middle East in these last 20 years of the wars that
25:20 we've been fighting.
25:22 Because one of the reasons why they did that was because, Hey, if I serve, I can get my
25:26 college paid for think about those people.
25:30 But all of them have continued on and served in our military.
25:34 If they thought that they could get their student loan debts paid in another way.
25:38 And here's also my message is just overall, because I know a lot of you listening to this,
25:41 you are responsible and smart and beautiful and you weren't your butts off.
25:45 You know, while in school or afterwards to make sure that you didn't take on any debt
25:48 or that you could cover that debt, I do have a message for all of you.
25:52 You all did the right thing.
25:55 Joe Biden is trying to buy votes and do things in this way.
26:00 And that should not change the morality of what you did and what you accomplished.
26:05 I say Bravo.
26:07 If you graduated from school without debt, because you busted your butt, I say Bravo.
26:11 If you busted your butt afterwards and you came up with a plan and, you know, with gazelle-like
26:15 intensity, you paid off that debt, Bravo.
26:17 You did the right thing.
26:18 You did the right and righteous thing.
26:20 Because I've talked to a lot of people because like for me, I had a pretty good scholarship
26:23 to go to school, but I still had some loose ends by my junior and senior year of college.
26:27 I was stacking scholarships on top of scholarships to where I was actually making money to go
26:30 to school.
26:31 Okay.
26:32 I was actually getting money from the bursar's office as opposed to having to drop off
26:35 a check.
26:36 Okay.
26:37 And I know other people that grinded in that way too.
26:39 That doesn't make me special.
26:40 It's just like, Hey, the system was out there and I'm like, I'm going to do this because
26:43 I don't want to be in debt.
26:45 And we managed to make that work.
26:46 And so did my wife.
26:47 Right.
26:48 And we graduate without student loan debt, but that we're not suckers today.
26:52 I certainly don't feel like a sucker, but I can understand why some of you would.
26:56 But this, this all, this whole thing that the Biden administration is doing, it does nothing
27:01 to address the underlying issue.
27:02 Because there is a major underlying issue here and it's that the federal government caused
27:08 this issue to begin with by guaranteeing student loans and then sitting by as every single
27:13 public university in the country, continue to raise their tuition rates, right?
27:21 Because the federal government said, okay, anybody that applies for this loan is going
27:24 to get it.
27:25 We'll subsidize it.
27:26 But if you know anything, you don't need to be an economist to know this, but if you
27:29 know anything about basic economics, you understand that what, you know, what happens when you
27:33 subsidize something, you know, when the government subsidizes something, then the producer of
27:37 that something is under no compunction to not raise their prices.
27:42 They would actually be really, really stupid to not raise their prices because of the subsidy.
27:47 And so when we see these universities over the past several decades, raising their tuition
27:51 rates at like four or five times the rate of normal inflation, not Biden inflation,
27:55 but normal inflation.
27:57 And the government's just like, yeah, no biggie.
28:00 And so you have these universities that are cranking out these people that are not ready
28:03 for the workforce.
28:04 They're not ready for the job that they're taking. They're, you know, so bad at their
28:08 prospects in terms of getting a job that they have to go and get a master's degree, doubling
28:12 down on stupid in order to go and get this fictitious job that they think they're going
28:15 to get right out of school, making six figures in the corner office just because they, you
28:19 know, we're, we're great at their undergraduate program in rural Florida or something like
28:23 that.
28:24 And it's just not reality, but the universities are being paid off in all of this.
28:30 These universities are part of the problem as they've grown their internal bureaucracies
28:34 at these universities, adding useless, uh, departments like the ones I talked about last
28:38 week, all these, you know, diversity departments and all these random departments under departments
28:42 with department heads and all these different, whatever's, you know, sub vice presidents
28:46 and, you know, directors of this and that and heads of this and that they've expanded
28:49 that within their universities because they've gotten this influx of money and then they turn
28:52 around and go, oh, my pockets are out. Look how bad things are going here. I've got my hat
28:56 in my hand.
28:57 Can you please give me some more money?
28:58 Give me a break. It's ridiculous. But a big question in all this is why, you know, I'm
29:05 sure some of you have thought about this. Why does the American taxpayer have to bail out
29:09 these universities to begin with, but specifically the universities that have these mega endowments.
29:13 So as you've heard reported somewhere, I'm sure in the last week, Harvard is sitting
29:17 on an endowment that is over $50 billion worth. Yale has one that's over 30 billion. Stanford
29:23 has one that's close to 30 billion. Princeton has one that's around 25 billion. And these
29:28 people aren't paying taxes on these endowments. They're operating like hedge funds. And yet
29:34 the American taxpayer has to turn around and pay off all these debts. Like literally a
29:39 percentage of my tax dollar is going to go to pay off the degree for somebody that got
29:43 a, the student debt of somebody that got a degree from Harvard. Maybe they're two years
29:49 out of college and they haven't quite gotten that next big raise. They're making $124,000
29:53 per year. And I'm going to pay off that person's debt. Like it's astonishing. It's, it's deeply,
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30:32 It's also very rich for Joe Biden and his administration to use COVID to use the pandemic
30:39 as their legal basis for the student loan forgiveness. So I'm not going to really dig
30:42 down to the legal case because that's not really my area, but that's what they're doing. They're
30:46 basically using these different emergencies, you know, things inside the law to say, Hey,
30:50 it's because of the pandemic. We've got to do this thing. That's how they're going to
30:52 argue it in court anyway, because according to them, the pandemic is over enough to where
30:58 the elderly president Joe Biden can be out and about without a mask on. And our southern
31:04 border can be wide open for people from all over the world to come streaming through in
31:07 the United States. So the pandemic is over enough for all that. But we're still in such
31:12 an emergency point with COVID that we have to get rid of student loans. That's what they're
31:17 telling us. Does anybody really believe that though, even people that like the fact that
31:24 their student loans are going to get wiped out. Do you think they actually believe that they're
31:27 sitting there with double mast at home alone with their cat and they're thinking to themselves?
31:32 Yeah, man, this is great. This is going to really get me out of my COVID fog and a few
31:37 things on that. Most of the student loan debt that is going to be forgiven if this goes
31:42 through, like in almost, it was almost every single bit of that was taken out pre COVID.
31:49 Again, COVID hasn't been a thing for all of our lives just last couple of years, right?
31:53 All that soon loan debt was taken out before then. Also, the people that were allowed to
31:58 work during COVID, if you'll remember, we're typically the white collar job people, okay?
32:05 It wasn't the blue collar workers. And we love and respect those workers. We're not, we're
32:08 not saying they're different. We're not showing any partiality, but the white collar workers
32:12 were told that their work was essential. But the blue collar workers, many of them were
32:16 told that their jobs in factories or on construction sites or whatever in other industries that
32:21 their job was not essential, that we can just shut you down as if it makes no big deal.
32:26 That's what the government said we could do. And so again, those same blue collar workers
32:31 are going to be paying taxes to help pay off the student loan debts of the white collar
32:35 workers that never had a disruption to their income. Think about that. That's a tough one,
32:40 but think about it. And this really leads into the next thing, which is, I love that
32:44 a lot of people are talking about PPP loans and posting the names of Republicans that
32:50 are in, you know, national office that own businesses that took out PPP loans and they're
32:55 comparing it to this situation, okay? These two situations cannot be any more different,
33:00 okay? What the government did with the PPP loans, or really, they did those to begin
33:06 with because they literally told you that your business was not essential, okay? And
33:12 that you would not be able to work nor provide work for any of your employees. That's what
33:16 the government told you. They shut your business down, need you need to be reminded of that.
33:22 They have to give you something in return for that. The government can't just shut
33:26 your business down and then say, best of luck, because if they had done that, there would
33:31 have been war. If they told every business, every mom and pop shop, except for the ones
33:34 that they like, you can't do business, but we're not going to give you anything back
33:37 for it. There would have been massive. It would have been protests. It would have been
33:41 war, okay? But here's the thing, student loans are a voluntary exchange between a borrower
33:48 and a lender in order to pay for higher education. How in the world is that the same for these
33:54 business owners that are trying to keep people employed to keep payroll going, the government
33:59 telling them, you can't run your business, but hey, we'll go ahead and provide this to
34:04 you so that you can keep things up and running so that you don't lose your hat. These situations
34:09 are not the least bit the same. And I love that they're pointing out all these problems,
34:14 but you prominent Republicans that are doing it because it's like, you don't think Democrats
34:17 are also running businesses? You didn't think they are also benefiting from things like those
34:22 programs and think about it. You know, the people that took out the PPP loans, you know,
34:27 for the people that actually started businesses and were creating wealth and employing people
34:31 and taking care of families. Those are the people that took these loans out to begin
34:34 with. A lot of these student loan folks are people that took out loans to get useless
34:38 degrees and then they decided somewhere along the way that they didn't want to pay them
34:42 back. Like, please let me know that you see the massive difference in these two parties.
34:47 Like the PPP loan and a lot and I know there was some fraud in the PPP system. There were
34:51 people that bought Ferraris and boats and all these everything's like, I get it. But there
34:55 were so many companies out there that without the PPP loans, they would not be in business
34:59 today and you're not just losing your business. You're losing the jobs of all of your employees
35:03 and you're affecting their entire family's ability to be financially stable. So it's
35:08 a big deal. Also, I know that a lot of people on both sides of the issue, actually people
35:13 that love this, people that hated and everyone in between, in between, they're expressing
35:16 the sentiment that we should have empathy for young people that were duped into taking
35:21 these loans out. Okay. And in the last week or so, to be honest, I've struggled with that.
35:25 I've kind of gone back and forth about feeling empathetic and not feeling empathetic and
35:28 blah, blah, blah. And after giving it quite a bit of thought, I'm not so sure that we
35:32 should have empathy for the people that took out these loans. I'm really not because people
35:39 are describing, you know, the process of people taking out these loans is like, Oh, it was,
35:44 it was a predatory process, right? Like they were, they were targeted. And you know, as
35:47 these predators that went out there and basically forced them to sign on the dotted line, they
35:51 had no choice, right? And maybe there's some truth to that. But the fact is, that is, it
35:57 was adults that were taking out these loans. These were 18, 19, 20 year olds, some people
36:03 in their mid 20s as they're going on and moving on their higher education. These were adults
36:07 that took out these loans. It wasn't 12 year olds. And I guess you have to ask yourself
36:11 is that what point are we to say that it's their fault for taking out the loans and then
36:17 using the funds for a crappy degree? Like at what point are we allowed to say that? I
36:22 know that seems really mean, doesn't seem terribly empathetic. But but honestly, like
36:27 when can you say that? Because there's got to be a line somewhere there. They're absolutely
36:31 has to. But I do find it interesting that Democrats, they don't think that an 18 year
36:38 old is smart enough or developed enough to choose whether or not to take out a student
36:42 loan. Okay, that that's the argument they're making. Oh, it's predatory. They didn't have
36:45 any options, but this is the same party that thinks a seven year old can choose their gender
36:52 that that a 15 year old girl can choose to have both of her healthy breasts removed.
36:57 So apparently they're old enough and developed enough to make those decisions, but not decide
37:01 on the dotted line for a loan. But ultimately on the empathy thing, I think it's okay for
37:06 you to fill a tremendous amount of empathy for somebody. And again, I'm not a terribly
37:10 naturally empathetic person, but I know a lot of you guys are a lot of you gals listening
37:13 to this are and that's fine. But you can be empathetic towards these people and then still
37:19 maintain that they have to pay the price for their dumb decisions. Hey, man, think about
37:26 in any other way, you get, you get too much house, you get a lender to give you a mortgage
37:30 on a house that's way beyond you. You can feel bad for the person that signed on the
37:35 dotted line for that 30 year mortgage for a house that they can't really pay for. But
37:39 it's their debt to pay, not yours. Someone gets a car that's way too much car for them.
37:45 Yeah, they got the souped up thing and they did all this whole thing. And now they're
37:48 having money troubles. And they realize that that that that car is worth half the value
37:52 it was six months ago. Like you can feel bad for them and not pay their debt for them.
37:57 So you can have both of those things all at once. But as we continue the discussion on
38:01 this, we need to be clear about something. This is almost certainly a bribe for you to
38:07 vote for Democrats in the midterm elections. I've already said that, but it's not only
38:10 that this is another attempt by leftists in the government to take complete control of
38:17 the segment of the population and make them beholden to daddy government. Okay, again,
38:22 this is a well transfer from non elitist to elitist, right? It is just like what happened
38:27 during the COVID lockdowns, when all of these mom and pop shops and restaurants actually
38:32 did go out of business, even the PPP loans couldn't save them. They went completely out
38:36 of business while all of the big box stores and fast food chains and these national brands
38:42 multiplied their profits. So when you're doing something like this, it's because you want
38:49 people to be dependent on you. You hear people make that argument when talking about people
38:54 like in the black community, how there's, you know, all this reliance on welfare in the
38:59 government. And I don't mean because of that. I mean, because you get people on these programs,
39:03 and then they spend decades and decades and programs like this, anybody that's in those
39:06 programs, and then they want to depend on daddy government, right? They don't want to
39:10 depend on daddy of their children or the church or any of those things. So you've heard people
39:13 make those arguments before that once somebody gets on the government teat, they don't want
39:17 to come off of it. And how can you ensure that the government stays powerful and that
39:22 the, the, you know, the minions will still vote for somebody that's maybe doing things
39:26 that are not in their best interests, continue, you know, the suckling from the teat continuing
39:31 to allow that. You've heard people talk about that before, but we need to be clear about
39:35 something else with all this is if they're able to ram this through, which again, I'm
39:39 not sure that they can, but if they're able to do this, this will simply be the first
39:44 of many bribes, just like it. Many, many, many, many bribes. Okay, we have to ask ourselves
39:49 which debt will Democrats focus on next? How about the rest of student loans? You know,
39:54 $10,000, like that's, that's just a start. What, I mean, what about the mortgages for
39:58 people that think like they do, that vote like they do? Are they going to try to cancel
40:02 those out? And what about the trillions of dollars of credit card debt that currently
40:06 exists in the United States? Like which debt is going to be next? Because if we're just
40:10 going to start canceling debt, because money's not an actual real thing tied to any actual
40:15 real value, why not keep that going? I mean, guys, there are already people saying that
40:19 $10,000 is not nearly enough. I can't remember who, who posted this on Twitter, but it was
40:23 absolutely astonishing. I thought it came from, you know, the onion or the Babylon B or something
40:26 like that, but they are claiming that $10,000 is a dog whistle to white people because white
40:33 people tend to have per capita, less student loan debt in total than people of color.
40:39 Yes, I'm serious. They're like, you know, the average white person has $12,000 with a
40:43 student loan debt, but the average black person has, you know, 18,000 or 25,000 or something
40:46 like that. So this is a dog whistle somehow from the widest administration, maybe ever,
40:51 right? I'm going to be in funny because they, they obviously will hire people just because
40:55 they don't look like white people, but whatever. But you see where this goes. You see where
40:59 this is going, guys, there's no end to this nanny state nonsense. There simply isn't.
41:04 And there's another nefarious thing with all this. It's that the only loans that this policy
41:09 will cover. This is so, this is so bad. And no one's really talking about it. The only
41:12 loan, the only, you know, loans that this policy will cover from the Fed are the federally
41:17 backed loans, not private loans. You know, private loans obviously have a much higher
41:23 rate of being paid back because typically you have to prove something before you can
41:27 get that private loan. The federal loans do not have that. But the only ones that are
41:31 going to be relieved are the federal loans. And there are a lot more nefarious things
41:35 about all this. One of them is that these student loans benefited the higher education institutions
41:40 way, way, way, way, way more than they did the students that were actually taking out
41:44 the loans. And also by the federal government guaranteeing funds to these universities, which
41:48 we've already talked about via these grants or scholarships or loan programs or whatever,
41:52 they have been able to crack down on what these universities teach, the policies they put
41:56 in place, which almost always been towards the left. So again, when people talk about
42:01 how, you know, conservatives were asleep at the wheel for all these years, letting, you
42:05 know, leftists can completely control higher education and K through 12 education and completely
42:11 control entertainment and completely control all these other different pockets of life.
42:15 We're seeing some of the, some of the negatives of that playing out right now before our eyes.
42:21 And just as a, as a thought experiment, think about how much better of a place our country
42:25 would be right now. If every kid that applied for a student loan in order to go to college,
42:30 had to put together a business plan of sorts in order to get the funding, had to sit across
42:35 the table from somebody in a student tie and say, here's my plan. Here's what I plan to
42:39 do over the next four years. Here's the school I plan to go to. Here's the track I plan to
42:43 follow. Here's the minors I plan to do. Here are the student organizations I plan to start
42:49 or be a part of. Or here's the sports I plan to play. Here's how I'm going to cover some
42:53 of it. Here's how you're going to cover some of it. I mean, think about if these students
42:58 had to constantly meet minimum standards in order to keep the money flowing. How much
43:02 of a better place would be be right now? Because you're probably not going to be able to get
43:07 funding for your lesbian dance theory degree program. You're probably not going to do,
43:13 you know, pseudo European philosophy or like just make up some random bullcrap degree.
43:19 Those things don't matter once you get to the marketplace. They're not valuable unless
43:24 you create your own ecosystem, which some of these people are doing. But if you had to
43:28 sit across the table and pitch it to somebody, you're probably not going to go that route.
43:31 And if they said, hey, we're not going to give you this money to go to university to
43:35 do this program because we don't think it's a good fit for you. We actually think you'd
43:38 be potentially a good welder, be a good plumber, be a good electrician, something like that.
43:43 Imagine if those things happened. I bet we wouldn't have a shortage of all those other
43:46 jobs I just mentioned. And in the last thing here on the political side, dude, I mean,
43:50 there's way more things we can talk about, but we're already running a little bit long
43:53 on this one particular subject. But on to wrap up the political side is as with most
43:58 ridiculous left wing ideas like, oh, we're going to cancel student loan debt. Remember
44:01 how ridiculous that sounded like three, four years ago? It always starts out on the fringes
44:05 of the party, but then it quickly becomes mainstream. And the crazy thing now is that
44:12 these crazy ideas become mainstream ideas so quickly. Because again, we talk about the
44:17 over to window. The over to window used to shift very slowly and very subtly. Now it's
44:22 just like clinging around, like just like, you're like, you're throwing it down a fly
44:25 to stairs, right? It's just all over the place. Because again, this was a crazy idea. Just
44:31 a few years ago, Bernie Sanders was the only prominent person saying something like this.
44:35 And that was something that Republicans are going to point out and be like, Oh my gosh,
44:38 can you imagine? Look at that loser talking about student loan forgiveness. Oh, what are
44:42 we going to do? Just wave of magic wand. Then, you know, cancel $10,000 worth of student
44:47 loan debt for people making six figures per year and everybody else in between. Yeah,
44:50 that's crazy. Here we are. Here we are. It is crazy. But we just have to wait and see if
44:58 it's actually going to go through. So now we need to get the spiritual side because we
45:03 just spent a lot of time breaking it down politically. But there is a fairly interesting
45:07 spiritual component to all this. Because as many of you have noticed, there have been
45:12 a lot of people like an unbelievable number of people claiming that student loan forgiveness
45:18 and eternal damnation because of sin forgiveness are the same thing. I remember last week, probably
45:27 early Wednesday, maybe early Thursday, all this is coming out. And I thought there's
45:33 probably going to be some dumb people that are going to get after, you know, conservatives
45:36 or Christians or whatever for saying that we shouldn't just wipe out student loan debt.
45:39 That's probably going to happen. You know what? Probably not. And then like the next
45:42 time I went on Twitter, it was like, it was like a machine gun of idiots, like all basically
45:49 saying the same thing. Okay. So there were a number of people, you know, a lot of people
45:53 on the political left, atheists, agnostics, even woke Christians, they were making theological
46:00 arguments all of a sudden, theological arguments, saying that if you are a Christian, if you
46:06 are honest to goodness, a Christian, that you should wholeheartedly and full-throatedly
46:11 support the quote unquote forgiveness of student loans. Now, there are two funny things about
46:16 that right from the get go. These people are using arguments from a worldview that they
46:21 think isn't based in facts or reality. So I always find that interesting when people
46:25 that don't believe in anything in the Bible use the Bible as the basis of their argument.
46:29 So that's first funny thing. Second funny thing is if we make theological arguments,
46:34 you know, of conservatives, if Christians, if people like me make theological arguments
46:37 to support our policy subscriptions, they brand us as Christian nationalists. Like, haven't
46:42 you noticed that? You're like, Oh, well, you're you're using scripture, you know, as you support
46:46 the Dobbs decision or something like that, you're obviously a Christian nationalist, right?
46:50 You know, Kristen Cobes, Dumei is going to write Jesus and John Wayne part two. And that's
46:54 going to be the basis for everything that she writes, right? And Samuel say actually
46:57 pointed this out on on his blog last week, what this really gets into because there's
47:01 a big point, but I'll make it after this. Cause I liked what Samuel said in his blog. In James
47:05 two, we see where the sin of partiality is talked about. Okay. And I think I actually
47:10 use that last week when we're talking about race and we're talking about splitting people
47:13 up and different things like that. It's a sin of partiality that becomes a major, major
47:16 issue. But in this thing that we're, we're looking at in this story, there's partiality
47:21 being shown to people making less than $125,000 per year. Because if you make over that, it's
47:28 not going to benefit you. So we're being partial to a particular group and we can't define
47:32 why 125,000 is the number. It just seems like a nice round number. We're also showing partiality
47:38 to people who were not responsible enough to pay off their debts. Again, as we talked
47:43 about, the people that busted their tails, paying off their debts or not getting into
47:47 debt in the first place, we're being partial to the other people, the people that just
47:52 like, eh, you know, eat, drink and be married for tomorrow. We die like the people that
47:55 just went and partied or maybe even some well-meaning people. I'm kind of using a lot of pejorative
47:59 here, but it's like maybe there were some well-meaning people out there that are just
48:02 like, eh, you know, we'll deal with the debt later. I'm just going to try to get my education
48:05 out. So maybe that was it. But there's also partiality towards people with student loan
48:08 debt as opposed to other debts. Like, why are we canceling out the debt of people that
48:13 have student loan debt, but not mortgage debt or credit card debt or debt because they had
48:19 to go into debt to pay off their grandpa's funeral or like there's so many other types
48:22 of debt, business debt. Like, why are we showing partiality? Okay? But here's how student loan
48:28 debt and our sin debt are the same. Okay? So this is, this is the crux of the issue.
48:35 Here's how student loan debt and our sin debt are the same. The debts are not being forgiven.
48:43 The debts are being transferred to someone else to pay. I'll say that again. The debts
48:50 are not being forgiven. The debts are being transferred to someone else to pay. Now, this
48:56 is where the rubber meets the road and Ally Best Stucky over at the blaze. She said something
49:00 similar to this on her Instagram last week. So I'll use some of her thoughts here with
49:05 our sin debt. Okay? The debt we have from sinning. Okay? The good news of the gospel is that
49:11 Jesus who is God and human earthly form chose to voluntarily sacrifice himself as a propitiation
49:21 for our sin. Propitiation is simply the, you know, the appeasement of the wrath of God,
49:26 you know, a payment in full of the penalty of sin, if you will. Also, Jesus voluntarily
49:32 chose to pay a debt that we could not pay ourselves. Okay? That is the beauty of a gospel
49:40 that isn't works based. He chose to pay off a debt that we had no capability of paying
49:46 off ourselves. But with student loan forgiveness, the burden of the debt is being transferred
49:54 from the party that took out the debt to a different party, the American taxpayer that
50:00 did not take out the debt further. That transfer is being done without the consent of the American
50:09 taxpayer. And if some of those American taxpayers refuse to pay, they will have their freedoms
50:16 removed from them. They could be arrested. They could be fined. They could be taken to
50:20 jail. Oh, and, and the parties that took out the debt in the first place are 100% capable
50:29 of paying them back. Guys, I said all that very, very slowly so that one, you could get
50:36 it because I know I talked fast and everyone's like, you know, lay off the, you know, caffeination
50:41 or whatever. Even though I don't drink any soda or coffee or anything like that. But
50:44 I think you should even go back and just go back to where I was talking about, you know,
50:48 the debts are not being forgiven. The debts are being transferred to someone else to pay
50:52 because that is so unbelievably important. People that are making this that are attaching
50:57 student loan debt and the sin debts, like these things make no sense whatsoever. Okay?
51:05 So my final thought on this is to the question of should Christian support the student loan
51:10 forgiveness plan? No, no, this is not right. This is an unrighteous thing that is happening
51:20 because they are transferring this debt to people that are not choosing to take on this
51:24 debt that didn't choose to take on the debt from the beginning. I'm not going to sit here
51:28 and be like, Oh, it's just not fair. But in a lot of ways, it is simply not fair. It's
51:33 not fair to do this. This is not a right moral and righteous thing to do. Now, if you benefit
51:40 from this personally, because some of your student loan debt is going to be, you know,
51:44 taken away, I'm not saying that you have sin that you need to be absolved of, right? They
51:50 give it works out to your benefit. Okay, fine. Maybe think about what you could be doing
51:55 with that $10,000 that you're now not going to have to pay towards, you know, your tuition
51:59 and fees and books that, you know, you know, you had and used years ago or something like
52:03 that. But again, Christians do not need to come out in full-throated support of this.
52:09 I think you should advocate in some ways to your local politicians, to your local representatives
52:15 to do what they can to stop something like this. Because again, this is not a one-time
52:20 thing. So if you're worried about the government spending money, printing money, going into
52:24 debt, all these different things, just know that again, it's going to cost somewhere
52:27 potentially close to a trillion dollars this time. What about the next time? What about
52:34 when they want to take out 10,000 more dollars or when they want to wipe things out completely?
52:39 This is not a good thing for our country. And no, Christians should not support it. So
52:44 guys, I'm looking at the clock, we're already over 50 minutes. So I don't want to give a
52:47 short shrift to these quick hitters. So I'm going to go ahead and skip to the end here
52:50 and do our normal outro. And then, you know, maybe tomorrow or something, I'll see what
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In this episode, we analyze the Biden Administration announcing their plan to “forgive” billions of dollars worth of student loan debt. What are the political implications of this move? What are the spiritual implications of this move? Should Christians support student loan forgiveness? Let’s get into it…

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