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This is Undaunted Life of Man's Podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.
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All right guys, if you're wondering, yes, yes, everything is still really, really stupid.
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I mean like, really, really stupid. If you're wondering it for those of you watching on YouTube,
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I have my studio right next to a window. I like the natural light. It seems like it's getting
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dark outside. It's because it is. It's because it's nighttime. I'm supposed to be winding down for
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the day. And instead I'm here talking to you guys, which I love. I love recording these
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podcasts and getting them out to you guys, but not for these reasons. Because I've literally been
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on till all day long, right? I had a great day, had some good interviews, had some good
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things kind of happen that I can kind of get more into later for you guys, some big announcements.
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But I just was mad all day long. Okay. Now, I will tell you from the beginning. Before I get
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into the episode, you might be tempted to skip this episode because of the subject matter. Because
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you're going to figure out what the subject matter here in a second is, right? It might seem a little
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bit niche, right? It might seem that it doesn't really apply to you, but it does. And you're just
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gonna have to trust me. So stick with me. We're going to get into some details that that really
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don't seem like they apply to you. But I promise, I promise I'll bring it all together. Okay. So,
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my alma mater, okay, the University of Central Oklahoma was in the news recently.
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And typically you're in the news for really, really good things or really, really bad things.
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And we'll figure out which one it is here in just a second. But the University of Central
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Oklahoma, for those of you that don't know, it is located in Edmund, Oklahoma, which is the
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the city where I currently reside. That's a suburb of Oklahoma City. It is the third largest
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university in Oklahoma behind OU and OSU. And it's got about 15,000 students. When I was there,
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it had about 17,000 students. So I got a scholarship to go to the University of Central
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Oklahoma as an incoming freshman. It was basically a Fulbright scholarship. It was a scholarship for
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leadership and for kind of involvement and those types of things. So I didn't go the athletic route.
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I went the leadership route. It was basically my only option aside from going to my hometown
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university. So I was so thankful to do it. And I wanted to come and do a really, really good job.
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Okay. So I was at the University of Central Oklahoma as an undergraduate from 2004 to 2008,
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when I graduated with my degree. And then I came back a couple of years later, and then I got my
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MBA while I was working on campus. Okay. So when I was there, and I'm not saying any of the stuff
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here in a second to pat myself in the back or anything, I just want to kind of give you a sense
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of who I was, because there were about 17,000 students there when I was there. But I was one of
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the higher performing students, right? Because I was there on scholarship. One of the things about
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the scholarship is you had to be involved, right? You had to kind of have your hands and everything
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going on on campus. And also I lived on campus for all four years. And I lived in a dormitory
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that was literally in the middle of campus, right? So I was in the middle of everything. But I did
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graduate top of my class and my undergrad and my graduate work. I was the president of some
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organizations that were fairly big. It was, it was, it was one of those things I got really,
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really involved. Okay. And I was, I was known by a lot of students. I was also known by a lot of
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faculty and staff. And it really did me well. I learned a lot of great things from a lot of
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great people. But I just wasn't just another student that just went in, was quiet and got my
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degree, you know, made some moves and did some things. So is there any way to not sound like
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a [inaudible] when you describe it that way? Sorry. But anyway, so that's that. But one of the
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organizations that I was a part of was something called old blue crew. Okay. So the old blue crew,
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their entire reason for existence was basically to increase school spirit, right? Because, you know,
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when you're not the biggest school, right? When you're a division two school and when you don't play
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football games on ABC on Saturday night, you know, you kind of have people that, you know,
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will downgrade your school. And that was kind of our thing is like, no, no, be proud of your school.
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Be proud to be a UCO Bronco in and all the things that come with that. And one of the things that
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we did that really increased school spirit, we will say is we not only got people to come out to the
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games and we mean all the games, football, baseball, basketball, volleyball, soccer, like we went to
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everything, right? Not only did we get students to the games, we taught these students our fight
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song because a lot of people go to a university and they don't ever really learn the fight song
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that they also don't learn the alma mater. But the fight song is just something that's just
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kind of lost on them. And whenever it's being played at games or something like that, it's just kind
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of like, I don't know, it's just a little bit weird. They just kind of sit there and kind of hum along
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and do whatever. But one of the things that we did is we taught people these fights on. And I
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remember this one thing. This was the beginning of my junior year. I was president of the old blue
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crew. And we were going to do kind of this this first big meeting on campus. All the students
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had come back for the year. And you know, we're getting ready for the fall, we're getting ready
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for football and volleyball and soccer and all these different things. And we were going to do
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our first meeting of the year and we expected 50 to 100 people to show up, right? Because we were
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giving out t-shirts and all that. And so we did this meeting outside between these two dorms,
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Myrtle Hall and West Hall, and a thousand people, over a thousand people showed up to this first
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meeting where we gave them a t-shirt and taught them the fight song, right? And so here is actually
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the UCO fight song. This is a fight song for the University of Central Oklahoma. And now for
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you guys, I am going to go ahead and sing it. Okay, I'm going to go ahead and clap through it just so
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you get the idea. There's no full ensemble band behind me, but we'll go ahead and get to it here.
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So here we go. Fight boys, fight for you, CEO. Fight boys, fight today. Fight for the team,
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boys all full esteem, boys here are cheers for you. Go Broncos, fight boys, fight for the bronze
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and the blue fight boys fight today. Add one more victory to our team's history. You see. Oh,
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Broncos. There you guys go. Don't ever say I didn't do anything special for you. This first
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time, I think I'm saying for you guys on the podcast, if you didn't enjoy it, I can't really
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help you. It is what it is. But those are the lyrics to the fight song. That's our fight song,
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right? But guys, guys, little did I know that in singing that song,
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enchanting that song and teaching that song to others, including to elementary school children at
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times, that I was participating in structural racism against black people and demeaning women.
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Yes, I'm serious. I'm 100% serious. I was participating in racism against black people
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and demeaning women. So let's go back to the beginning of this story, which led me to having
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a very frustrating day for this one main purpose. So I get a message early this morning from a friend
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and fellow UCO alum, his name is Mike. And this guy actually had a gal that he ended up marrying,
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who was a scholarship athlete female that went to the University of Central Oklahoma as well,
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just to give you a little bit of background. But this was the text I got early this morning.
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Kyle, last night I learned that the UCO fight song is racist and is in the process of changing.
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I feel safer already. So very, very funny thing at the end, I feel safer already. But I had no
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idea what he was talking about, right? So I go to Mr. Google, I look it up and there pops up on the
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news. There's a headline from KOCO news five in Oklahoma. It says UCO in process of revising
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fight song amid backlash over some of the lyrics. Okay. So that's an interesting headline,
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especially because you just heard me sing the fight song, right? So before we go any further,
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let me read the lyrics again. And let's just see if you can spot the highly problematic lyrics in
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question. I'll just read them. I won't sing it. You're welcome. Fight boys fight for UCO fight
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boys fight today. Fight for the team boys, awful esteem boys. Here are cheers for you. Go Broncos.
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Fight boys fight for the bronze in the blue fight boys fight today. Add one more victory to our
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team's history. UCO Broncos. Okay. So it's not too hard to see how someone could see that the song
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isn't inclusive enough of women, especially female athletes. Okay. Because it keeps referring to
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boys in the song. It actually says the word boys six times in that very, very short song. Okay.
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Now here's the interesting thing that most people don't really realize, especially people that are
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really looking at this story, is that they actually tried to change the fight song while I was an
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undergrad there. So this would be around the 2005, 2006 area. When I was when I was in school there,
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there was backlash from people that we never actually met that said we should change it instead
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of being fight boys fight to fight team fight. Because the girls, especially the female athletes
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on campus, don't feel very included whenever people sing that song. But that wasn't really the case.
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Because I remember at the time talking to a lot of the volleyball players, females, to the female
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soccer players, the female basketball players, none of them had a problem with the song. At least
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they didn't admit it whenever we directly asked them, like, Hey, do you have a problem with the song?
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And even the university, they tried to print out t-shirts that had fight team fight on it and
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our organization was like, screw that. We printed ones that said fight boys fight on it because
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nobody was actually offended by it. You know who was offended by it? You know, maybe some they
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didn't have the word at the time, but super woke and progressive, you know, people like staff
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members and professors that didn't actually come to the games, right? They just found out that the
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word boy was using a fight song and they thought, Hey, we can we can cause some issues. We can have
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some trouble. We can create a ruckus, right? But none of the girls that went to the games,
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none of the girls that supported these teams and none of the girls that played on these teams
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gave a crap. They liked the fight song. And I'm sure one of the main reasons for that is because
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people's prefrontal cortex is typically work. And these girls and everybody else that sang the song
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knew that this song was written well before title nine. Well before women were actually able to
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compete in collegiate athletics or otherwise, right? I mean, at the time that the song was written,
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they were only boys. And I know that's problematic because we're assuming someone's gender,
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but they're only boys, biological males that were able to compete in sports.
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So of course they wouldn't say fight team fight or fight random word fight. They would say fight
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boys fight. It makes perfect sense. But that wasn't the most offensive thing about the song.
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No, no, no, no, no. Because the lyrics of that song need, I need, I remind you,
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are supremely racist as well, not just sexist, racist. So we're going to actually go back to
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that news article. I'm just going to read to you here because it's really, really short. And I'm
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sorry in advance for making you dumber. But let's go ahead and read it. The University of Central
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Oklahoma is revising its fight song after a recent backlash over some of the lyrics.
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The Reverend Harry Gatewood III, a former UCO football player who graduated in 2008,
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said that he thought when he happened to be looking, sorry, said he had a thought when he
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happened to be looking at the college's Instagram post last month with the school mascot, quote,
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and while looking at the same post about the mascot, I proceeded to go to the UCO history
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page. And it was the coming together of the UCO fight song being intertwined with pride month
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and black music month. Unquote, Gatewood said, he told KOCO five that among other things,
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the song isn't inclusive. He also has issues with the word boy, which he'd like to be removed
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from the college's fight song. Quote, as you may know, the word boy back in the more ancient past
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was used as a derogatory word against black men. Unquote, Gatewood said, I'll stop saying quote
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and unquote, we'll just go with it. And some individuals might not see the word boy as incriminating
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or harmful. But when you have black athletes actually over the age of 18 who are actually men
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and you're telling those boys to fight, it could be a bit demeaning or even more so if you're a female
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athlete, I was like, that probably needs to be changed. Because as you know, UCO is doing great
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in regards to women's athletics. Gatewood said he sent an email to UCO's diversity and inclusion
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office and learned university officials were already taking steps to address his concerns.
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A group of students and administrators are currently working together to make revisions
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to the university fight song that reflect an inclusive community and that the process has
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started prior to receiving Mr. Gatewood's concerns. UCO officials said in a statement to KOC 05,
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the goal is to have it ready to unveil at the beginning of the fall semester, just in time for
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fall sports. We're heartened to have so many members of our central community, students,
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faculty, staff and alumni, and alliance on enhancing inclusivity on campus.
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Astonishing. Absolutely astonishing. I mean, this whole time I've been singing a song
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that could have kicked off a clan rally and I didn't even know it. I had no earthly idea.
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And here I am having participated in this bigoted racist movement. But here's the thing,
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the funny thing about this article is I actually know Harry D Gatewood, you know,
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Reverend Gatewood the third. I happen to know him. He and I were classmates together. We got,
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I think we got the same degree. We certainly had multiple classes together before he became
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Reverend Gatewood, right? I knew him as a football player. I knew him as a student. I also knew him
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as a writer for the school newspaper, right? So here's a few interesting things that I know
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about Reverend Gatewood. Okay. Number one, he never publicly stated that the fight song was racist
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while playing for the football team. Now I cannot remember. So I don't want to say something that's
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not true. I can't remember if he was a scholarship athlete, but I would like to think that he was.
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I'm I'm pretty certain he was, but I don't know for certain. But while he was playing for the team,
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representing the team with Broncos across his chest and UCO on his helmet, he never stated that
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the fight song was racist. Now there were five to six home games a year. And if we presume that he
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played for four years, he probably heard that song hundreds of times because it's played dozens of
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times a game, right? And he just, he never occurred to him. He had supposedly been black his whole
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life because I don't know if trans racism is a thing anymore, trans race is a thing. So I'm
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assuming that he's identified as black his entire life, but it seemingly wasn't a problem. The word
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boy wasn't a problem when he was a student. The other thing that I know about him is he never
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publicly stated that the fight song was racist while writing as a columnist for the UCO student
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newspaper, the Vista, he he never mentioned that. I don't remember a single article about it. I don't
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remember a single conversation that he had with me or anybody else. And I was one of those students
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on campus that if you're going to do something to screw with the fight song, it's so intertwined
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with the organizations that I was with, I would have certainly heard about it. And the other thing I
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know about Reverend Gatewood is that he never publicly stated that the fight song was racist
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until he thought he could use it to score some woke points. So since I am personal friends with
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Harry D Gatewood, I just went over to Facebook to see if he had been maybe patting himself on the back
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and wouldn't you know it? He was he was. So I'm going to read something from his personal Facebook,
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but I'm not going to share his picture here, anything like that. But his name is out there because he's
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out there on the news. I'm not doxing the guy by any stress in the imagination. I'm just reading
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something that he posted here. I'm glad to see my alma mater, the University of Central Oklahoma,
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making big strides to eradicate oversights of historical trauma that can create barriers for
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inclusion and microaggressions that can unintentionally cause racial trauma or gender bias.
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That is an actual sentence that a human being wrote. I'm just going to go ahead and read it again
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because it's astonishing. It is a in it's an astonishing sentence. But here we go. I'm glad
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to see my alma mater, the University of Central Oklahoma, making big strides to eradicate oversights
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of historical trauma that can create barriers for inclusion and microaggressions that can
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unintentionally cause racial trauma or gender bias. That's legitimately one of the dumbest
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things has ever been written using the English language. I'm not even sure that it meets all the
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qualifications to be readable because it's so stupid. But hey, he's pat himself on the back
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and there's a dozen or so people that think he is amazing that he's a hero for writing an email
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to the diversity and inclusion office. But but here's here's the thing guys. And again,
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I promise I'm going to bring this back to something that is very, very pertinent to you individually.
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Here's the reality. The UCO fight song isn't racist. I mean, not in the least bit.
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And Harry Gatewood knows it. He went looking for something to be offended by and he found it.
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Guys, the larger problem is that now the university is going to play into this delusion,
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right? But but here's the big key. And this this is going to come back to you. I promise
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by quote unquote revising the fight song. The university is admitting to the public
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that they agree that the song is problematic, AKA racist and sexist. They're admitting it.
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So when you have the university president and you have other members of the cabinet saying that
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they're going to revise it, you don't revise something that isn't a problem. You don't revise
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something that is already working for you, right? You revise it when it's broken, when it could be
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better, right? But again, this fight song has been around for decades and decades, but only now,
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only now, right? 60 years after the civil rights movement, do we realize that it's this problematic?
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And it apparently just took one hero, which actually brings up this point. I told you that this song
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was written before title nine, right? Before women were able to compete. Also, this song was written
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before desegregation, before the civil rights movement, right? So this argument that Harry's making
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that somehow this song is a call to black men that are competing for the school and referring to
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them as boy, which is a demeaning term when used racially, right? Is nonsense. Because at the time
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that this was written, black folks were not allowed to compete in collegiate athletics at the University
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of Central Oklahoma. And I hate that that's the reality, but that is part of our history. We shouldn't
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hide it, but at the same time, that's the reality. Women were not able to compete for this school.
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Neither were black people. So to all of a sudden assume that this song written before title nine
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and before desegregation was meant to demean women and demean black people specifically,
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not theoretically, but specifically, is ridiculous. It's ridiculous on its face.
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What we're doing when we do things like this is we're ignoring the meaning and the intent
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of words. We're saying that meaning and intent don't matter. Just our modern interpretations.
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This is part of the fixing of history that some people see it as, right? We're going to go back
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in time. Allah 1984. And we're going to pretend as if these things were never written. We're going
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to completely erase them. But the thing is, is that meaning and intent do matter. And if Reverend
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Gatewood actually thinks that the word boy is problematic, I want to see him go out and everywhere
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the word boy is used in any song anywhere, not just fight songs, even on the radio, right?
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Anywhere that you can listen to a song. If the word boy is used, we should get rid of that song.
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That song is problematic. It should be changed. It should be replaced.
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Now, Harry gave his suggested changes to the fight song. Okay. So instead of fight,
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boys fight, he was just going to say fight, fight, fight, right? And so it basically replaced every
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time it said boy with fight. And that was his thing, right? But I got some special for you guys.
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And for any of you UCO alums out there, especially you that know the fight song, and there are quite
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a bit of you that listen to this podcast, I went ahead and took on the project of fixing the fight
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song. Yeah, me, I'm going to fix it. So what I did is I channeled my inner Karl Marx and in my
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inner Ibram X, Kendi and my inner Robin DiAngelo and my inner AOC and my my my inner, everyone that
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would kind of fit into any of those categories, right? And I fixed it. So let me go and remind you
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what the original lyrics are. And then we're going to go line by line and we're going to fix
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this horribly bigoted racist sexist song. We're going to get it out of our lexicon forever.
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So here are the original lyrics again. And I'm so sorry to anybody that's about to listen to these
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lyrics because of the offense that it's going to bring upon you, right? I'm very, very sorry.
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You know, I'm actually going to grab drink of water just so I can, you know, clear my palate
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and clear my brain before we do this. Okay, here we go. Fight boys fight for UCO. Fight boys fight
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today. Fight for the team boys, all full esteem boys. Here are cheers for you. Go Broncos. Fight
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boys fight for the bronze and the blue fight boys fight today. Add one more victory to our team's
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history, UCO Broncos. Okay, so that is the fight song that is so problematic. So let's go line by
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line line one. It says fight boys fight for UCO fight boys fight today. Okay, so this is what
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we're going to change. We're going to change the word fight to become do your best unless it hurts
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someone else. Because we can have people fighting like that's rude unless we're fighting systemic
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oppression, right? So fight is going to be changed to do your best unless it hurts someone. Okay,
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now, we're going to change the word boys to people who identify as humans and also may or may not
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identify as male or female at the moment and may or may not be sexually attracted to either or
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both sexes and who are actively anti racist and fight against all patriarchal systems of oppression.
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Did you get that? So that's what boys is going to be now. Okay, so instead of boys,
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we're going to say everything that I just said. Okay, and then instead of the word today,
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we're going to change that to today or whenever it's most convenient. Because again, you know,
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I heard that timing and being on time was a a an element of whiteness, right? And that was
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an element of Western patriarchal society, which is also ran by horribly racist white men. So we
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can't just say today, right? Because then we're giving people a deadline and deadlines are racist.
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So we're not going to say today or whenever it's most convenient. Okay, so that's line one.
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We fixed line one. Okay, let's go to line two fight for the team boys, awful esteem boys.
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Okay, so again, we already told you how we're fixing the word fight got that out of there.
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But then we're going to change the little phrase, the team to whichever side makes you the most
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fulfilled. Okay, because we don't want to other people that aren't on the team, right? Because
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what if you're not on the team, then you're an other and you can't be another. So the team
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is now whichever side that makes you most fulfilled. And then we see the word boys again,
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super problematic. We've already fixed that in the previous line. We'll fix it again here.
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And then it says steam, awful esteem, right? We're going to change the word steam to happy.
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Because to a lot of people, steam is just too hot. And we can't have something that could
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potentially offend somebody's sensibilities that much. So steam is now happy. All right,
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so we fixed line two. Let's go to line three. Here are cheers for you. Go Broncos. Okay, so
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we're going to change the word here to. And no, your internet didn't go out. It's going to be a blank.
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Okay, because to use the word here, you're assuming that somebody can hear that their ears work,
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which is bigoted against hearing impaired people. And how dare you? Okay, so we fix that line,
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or not that line, we got some other things to fix. But it says here are cheers for you. And the
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word you just isn't that inclusive. So we're going to change you to they them zer. So we got
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some pronoun playing in there and we're going to kind of figure it out. But you is just not
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inclusive enough. Because what if I don't identify as a you? Because maybe I'm multiple people. So
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it's they's a they them zer. Okay. And then we're also going to change the go Broncos part to be
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animals that identify as Broncos, because you you're not in the name in the head of that Bronco,
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right? Unless you're the mascot, then you literally are in that animal's head. But you
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know, that's not here nor there. But Broncos is now going to be animals that identify as Broncos.
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Okay, so that's line three. We have fixed line three. Okay, so then line four is fight boys fight
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for the bronze in the blue. Okay, so we've already changed the word fight. We're good with that.
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We changed the word boys out that we're good with that. But bronze in blue is a little problematic
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because it only mentions those two colors, right? So we're going to change bronze and blue
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to bronze and the blue and all the other colors of the rainbow. Okay, because you know, the rainbow
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flag is the same as the LGBTQ, you know, pride flag. And so we're going to bring all of the
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colors in so that no, no other colors are left out. Okay, so that's line four. We fixed line four.
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Now line five fight boys fight today. Add one more victory to our team's history. Okay, so we've
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already changed fight. You know that we've already changed boys. We've already changed today.
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But let's look at that really pesky word victory. We're going to change victory to completed game,
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right? Because when you save victory, you're assuming that there was a victor. And if you assume
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that there's a victory, you're also assuming that there is a loser, right? And we simply cannot have
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that, right? Because if you lose, you're missing out, you're being left out on the winning part,
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and that is highly, highly problematic. Okay, and also it says to our team's history. And we're
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going to change that to to our team's history, which is surely full of bigoted racism.
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Because we need to acknowledge our whiteness. And we also need to acknowledge the patriarchy.
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And we need to acknowledge all the systemic oppression that is that could possibly have happened.
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So to our team's history, we don't want to glorify ourselves. We're changing that to to our team's
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history, which is surely full of bigoted racism. And then the last line line six is you see
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Oh, Broncos. So we're changing Broncos out again. So here are the original lyrics again,
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again, trigger warning, right? If this is going to offend you, you might just skip ahead a few,
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a few paces, because I have to read this. And I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry that I have to read
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these horribly hurtful words. But here we go. Fight boys fight for you, CEO. Oh, man, that hurt.
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Sorry that hurt. I just need a second. Oh, I said the word voice. Okay, let's start over. I think
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I think I can make it. Five boys fight for you, CEO. Five boys fight today. Fight for the team,
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boys, all full of steam boys. Here are cheers for you. Go Broncos. Fight boys fight for the
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bronze in the blue fight boys fight today. Add one more victory to our team's history,
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you CEO Broncos. Okay, so guys, that song is done. I am officially the last person. I'm declaring
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it now. I am officially the last person that will ever utter such horribly racist and bigoted words
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in the history of this country or or the planet or any other planet, right? I don't want to offend
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anybody that doesn't live in this galaxy. Okay, but I'm going to read to you the final product.
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And I got to be honest with you. I think this has a ring to it. I think this has a certain
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pizzazz, a certain scat quality to it. I have fixed the UCO fight song. So stick with me. Here it is.
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Do your best unless it hurts someone else. People who identify as humans and also may or may not
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identify as male or female at the moment may or may not be sexually attracted to either or both
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sexes and who are actively anti-racist and fight against all patriarchal systems of oppression.
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Do your best unless it hurts someone else for you, CEO. Do your best unless it hurts someone else.
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People who identify as humans and also may or may not identify as male or female at the moment
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or may or may not be sexually attracted to either or both sexes and who are actively anti-racist
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and fight against all patriarchal systems of oppression. Do your best unless it hurts someone
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else today or whenever it's most convenient. Do your best unless it hurts someone else for whichever
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side makes you the most fulfilled. People who identify as humans and also may or may not identify
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as male or female at the moment and may or may not be sexually attracted to either or both sexes
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and who are actively anti-racist and fight against all patriarchal systems of oppression. All full
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of happy people who identify as humans and also may or may not identify as male or female at the
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moment and may or may not be sexually attracted to either or both sexes who are actively anti-racist
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and fight against all patriarchal systems of oppression. Our cheers for they/them/z/zer. Go
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animals that identify as Broncos. Do your best unless it hurts someone else. People
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identify as humans and also may or may not identify as male or female at the moment or may or may not
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be sexually attracted to either or both sexes who are actively anti-racist and fight against
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all patriarchal systems of oppression. Do your best unless it hurts someone else for the bronze
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and the blue and all the other colors of the rainbow. Do your best unless it hurts someone else.
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People identify as humans and also may or may or may not identify as male or female at the
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moment and may or may not be sexually attracted to either or both sexes who are actively anti-racist
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and fight against all patriarchal systems of oppression. Do your best unless it hurts someone
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else today or whenever it's most convenient. Add one more completed game to our team's history
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which is surely full of bigoted racism. You see oh animals that identify as Broncos.
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There you go guys. I will be signing autographs later. I will send you all the information
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because guys I just ended racism. It's gone now right in these decades and decades and decades
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that I have perpetuated these horrific stereotypes and words to the greater Edmond, Oklahoma area.
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I would like to apologize to absolutely nobody right oh and here's the other thing before I go
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full Conor McGregor. This is a big thing too. I got I got a staying character here.
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We're also no longer going to sing this song right. I fixed the song's lyrics right but we're
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no longer going to sing the song because that isn't inclusive of people that can't sing well
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or for deaf people that can't hear the words or for dumb people that can't read.
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There you go. I've taken care of it all right.
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Guys was that as exhausting for you to hear as it was for me to perform
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because all of this is performative now all of it. This is such a non-story
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and yet it ran on the nightly news in my city and in one of the major cities in the country right
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in Oklahoma City and this is where we're at. So when people think of the University of Central
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Oklahoma this is going to be one of the first things that they think of. This is a university
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that I've given a ton of my time and effort and money to even since graduating. I've been on
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multiple boards. I've been on the Alumni Association board. I've been on the board of the business
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school. I've mentored students. I've given money and this is what my university has become.
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I remember thinking that I would love for my son James to grow up and get the PLC scholarship
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just like mom and dad did. Get a full ride to UCO. Live that UCO experience out with it. We
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absolutely adored and love so much but this is where we are now. So I bring all this on for those
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of you that have stuck with us for the last 30 minutes. This is your payoff right because now
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we're going to talk about why this is a big deal. Yeah that was very detailed and very specific to
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me and I appreciate you guys letting me talk about something that's that important to me right.
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But this isn't just about a silly fight song okay. This is about control.
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This is about control. Harry Gatewood didn't reach out to the university thinking that he would just
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give them a polite suggestion. He wanted to control the outcome. That's for certain right.
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I guess I don't know exactly what's in his heart but there doesn't seem to be another
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real reason for this. We're changing the fight song so that we can control the fight song.
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That's a big deal right because it's not just us. It's going to be your school and also it's
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important because it's about a racing history because they're treating the song as if it was a
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song that was sung in the South pre-Civil War and it's just you know kind of carried on
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through all these racist students throughout the years right. They want to erase the history
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of the song having ever existed. Now some people might say oh they're just going to make minor
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adjustments to the song well you don't know that. They may make minor adjustments but the
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song didn't need to be updated so why are we adjusting it. It's also a big deal because
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this is all about pretending to be offended. Pretending to be offended. Harry Gatewood is not
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offended by these words. He's just not because I know the guy. I know he's a smart human being.
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His prefrontal cortex works. I met him before he turned 25 before he was his brain was fully
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developed before any of our brains were fully developed right. He's a smart guy. He's clearly
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not offended by this but he thought I don't know what his his play is maybe he's trying to get
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people to come to his church maybe he's trying to run for office like who knows but he wanted to
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get his name out there and this was the story to do it. And this goes into the other thing I talked
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about again it's not about this fight song it's about conserving jobs for departments on campuses
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like this that don't actually do anything. And I mentioned this before an office of diversity
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inclusion doesn't actually do anything aside from looking for opportunities to be offended
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because I've said this before and I mean it. If they went an entire year so let's look at
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UCO my university if they went the entire year right from fall of 2021 through the summer of 2022
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through the summer of 2022 you like how my voice cracked it's because I'm angry but we go all the
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entire year. Let's say the university has zero incidences of racism or bigotry or othering or
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any of the other buzzwords if they can't find a single student or faculty or staff member that
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experience any of these things then guess what we don't have to have this department anymore.
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The department of diversity inclusion doesn't need to exist anymore because guess what
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they've fixed racism they fixed the sinful human heart right so this is about conserving jobs
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they have to give a report for the things that they've done right and they've got to
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give a report for the things that they've been able to target students that said or did things
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that weren't within their new rubric of rules that is constantly changing that's what this is about
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also it's about conservative minded people like me and like a lot of you we don't fight enough
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because we're afraid that whatever the hill is right that we're dealing with that's not we're
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dying on oh you know I would have said something to the principal but man this just isn't really
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a hill worth dying on or yeah you know I would have wrote a letter to the alumni association
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but gosh you know this just isn't the hill I'll save my bullets for when I really need them right
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but guys listen to me listen to me really close this applies to your university
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it applies to your kids school it applies to your kids private Christian school
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when you're in a me and yes I'm framing them like that on purpose keeps taking small hills
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from you they will eventually come for your headquarters
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because the thing is is you don't think it's worth pushing back on a little bit of darkness here
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on a little bit of darkness there and then when the full brunt of their worldview hits you directly
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in the face it's too late you're not ready for the fight and you've heard a lot of people talk
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about this is like in a fight in a violent situation you will fall to the level of your training
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there's no I'm going to snap into go mode no no like if the other person's bigger strong or
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better prepared you're done right the same is true here but but the big thing here for you guys and
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I want you to hear me this can't stop and it won't stop and the this I mean is the movement
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the the woke movement the progressive movement it can't stop
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there are no limiting principles to the woke movement because that's the thing that I constantly
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ask people and constantly think about people that are progressives it's like okay when will you stop
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yelling like when will we be better enough when will you be even enough when will we be equal
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enough at what point do we get to stop yelling in the streets and throwing Molotov cocktails at
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police officers at what point do we get there and they can't answer it because the progressive
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movement just keeps moving there is no goal in mind guys there isn't right you know you know
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Black Lives Matter and Antifa and all these other different organizations and whatever organizations
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going on at your local campus they always have these demands we demand this and we demand this
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and we demand this change and this adjustment and guess what when they get that are they ever
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satisfied no obviously they're not ever satisfied the point is never what they're asking for the
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point is what they're going to ask for next don't be asleep at the wheel so guys we have to push back
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because again this applies to you and it applies to your children and a lot of you guys that have
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gotten out of the the public school system in the last 12 months this this is your reality
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because you found out the things that were being shoved down your your kids throats the ideology
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that was just being like beaten into their heads and you couldn't think of anything else to do
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other than just get them out of there and some of you haven't dealt with the wreckage that came
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from them even hearing some of these ideas in the first place and you're going to have to deal
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with those wakes as we go out throughout the years right but this can't stop and it won't stop
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so start pushing back okay I want you to push back but here's my call to action okay
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so i'm calling on the president of uco patty new holder avikamar i'm also calling on the athletic
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director stan wagman the vp of advancement and holesboro line the vp of finance and operations
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kevin freeman and the director of alumni lory manetti those are all people that i know personally
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except for stan wagman i have not met him yet these are all people that i know personally
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my call to action for you is to stop this now stop it this is nonsense this is not a real issue
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this is not something that requires revision some people are going to be like this is just a
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fight song why are you freaking out it's not about the fight song it's about what comes after the
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fight song that's what i'm most worried about you change the lyrics to the song what if i had
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never known about it what if my buddy mike had never even texted me this i wouldn't be having
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this conversation with you right at this moment right i may have never even heard about it right
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even though i'm still plugged into my university but guys again president newhold ad wagman vp
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of advancement holesboro line vp of finance and offs freeman and director of alumni manetti
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this will not stop somebody have the stones to put a stop to it and now to any university
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of central oklahoma alum listening to this podcast and i know there's a lot of you
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let these people know about your displeasure so forget about the diversity inclusion office
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they're just going to basically write off your email your phone call they're not going to worry
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about it forget about the communications and public affairs office because i know the folks
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over there they're they're not going to do anything about it to change it either but if you know
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department heads if you know any of the people individually that i've just listed there if you
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know any important person at the university you let them know how displeased you are about this
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but two offices specifically ok the office of advancement so that's like the fundraising office
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right and the office of alumni relations bombard them with your true feelings on this subject matter
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and and guys i fully admit i might be in the minority here but hopefully to the ucio alums
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that have listened to this you understand that this is not about the fight song it's about
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something else and for guys again you listening it's not about whatever the city council is worried
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about at that moment it's not about whatever the the PTA is worried about in that moment right
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when you see these progressive progressives moving it's about what comes after that so again
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all ucolums let these university officials know that you will not stand for this
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