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155 - The Death Of RBG

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155 - The Death Of RBG
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In this episode, I tackle the fallout from Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death and the implications for the Supreme Court. With the election looming, her passing has ignited a political firestorm that could reshape the court for decades to come.
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1:12 So on Friday, September the 18th, last Friday, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg
1:17 succumbed to pancreatic cancer at the age of 87.
1:20 So this has been dominating the news cycle since then and for good reason.
1:24 There's a lot to go into today.
1:25 That's why we're doing this podcast.
1:27 And she served on the court since 1993.
1:29 She was nominated by President Bill Clinton at the time.
1:32 She was originally seen as a moderate.
1:34 That's something that's not really being talked about a whole lot right now because everyone's
1:37 just talking about what she ended up doing and kind of where she ended up towards the
1:40 individual career.
1:42 But she was originally seen as a moderate someone that could actually gain sympathies
1:46 from both sides, but she quickly made her leftist presence felt on the court and many
1:51 of her decisions, especially on social issues, definitely went towards the far left.
1:55 She was a hardened feminist.
1:57 But the thing about today is today is not about critiquing her jurors prudence or eulogizing
2:03 her on this podcast.
2:04 There are literally hundreds of other resources that do those other two things.
2:08 But I did just want to go ahead and say this that regardless, regardless of all the myriad
2:12 of things that I disagree with that woman on personally, on just about every issue possible,
2:17 she deserves at least some respect, right?
2:20 And at the end of the day, she has succumbed to cancer.
2:26 She's just another statistic for someone that has died of cancer.
2:29 That is a sad thing that is a sad thing for her and for her family.
2:32 I don't know what her personal faith was like if I don't really know where she is right
2:37 now.
2:38 But at the same time, this is a sad situation and she is one of not she was one of nine Supreme
2:43 Court justices.
2:44 They're really if you look at in terms of humanity, there's been a handful of people
2:48 that have been Supreme Court justices for the United States of America.
2:51 She was one of them.
2:52 And so at the very least, she accomplished a great deal.
2:55 And it's been great to see a lot of people that just disagreed with her vehemently come
3:00 out and just say how much they respect her and the things that she was able to do and
3:05 the mark that she was able to leave.
3:07 But again, this is not about eulogizing her or critiquing her in any way, shape or form.
3:11 She has passed away.
3:13 And now we get to deal with the fallout, right?
3:15 And there's going to be a lot of it.
3:16 Now I remember where I was, it's just kind of funny.
3:18 I was out running errands for my wife at the time.
3:21 We had like a toilet broken at one of our properties.
3:23 We had this going on over here, this going on over there.
3:26 And I was literally, I had gone to Arby's because that's like my jam.
3:29 I love going to Arby's and I went and got me a gigantic roast beef sandwich and some
3:33 curly fries.
3:34 And I pulled over basically to the side of the road, I'm eating this in my car and before
3:38 I went off to the next thing and then I get the message from I think it was a Fox News
3:41 alert or AP alert saying that she had passed away.
3:44 And immediately I was like, Oh crap, this is it.
3:50 Of course, of course, 2020, of course, this would happen now.
3:54 It's not a tremendous surprise because we've seen that Ruth Bader Ginsburg has not been
4:00 in good health, especially for the last several years, you know, the cancer is kind of come
4:05 and gone or gone up and down, depending upon which reports you were seeing of her sickness.
4:10 But it wasn't a huge surprise that an 87 year old woman with cancer passed away.
4:15 But it's the timing being this close to the November 3rd elections with everything happening
4:20 in the country with COVID-19, with the political, social, racial unrest, everything right now.
4:26 This just throws, gosh, this throws literally a Molotov cocktail, all pun intended into the
4:31 middle of all of this that's going on now.
4:33 What I will say is almost immediately after I got the news that she had passed away.
4:38 I also got the news that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Republican Senate Majority
4:41 Leader from Kentucky, he came out and said that there would be a vote on the Senate floor,
4:47 that their 100% would be a vote to replace her.
4:51 And I thought the timing was odd.
4:54 I mean, at the end of the day, life has to move on.
4:57 We've got to take care of business.
4:59 But I guess if it were me, I would have probably made way to it a day, right?
5:03 Let's let everything kind of settle at the dust settle for a little bit.
5:06 There wasn't a huge advantage to making that announcement on Friday as opposed to Saturday.
5:11 But that was at the very least interesting, but that did just strike me a touch inappropriate.
5:16 But it happened.
5:17 It is what it is.
5:18 But a lot of hay is being made now about what RBG's final wish was, right?
5:25 So we get this report also on Friday night that her granddaughter said that her final
5:30 wish, right, her dying wish was that her seat would not be filled until after the next election.
5:39 So many people are talking about this.
5:41 And there's a lot of people critiquing, you know, Donald Trump right now for saying he
5:44 said basically the Democrats, you know, Schumer and Pelosi and all that that they kind of made
5:48 this up.
5:49 I don't really see that there's any evidence for that.
5:51 But you know, that's just him talking trash because that's what he does.
5:54 But this is a pretty ridiculous thing to be a headline for a lot of people that a woman's
5:59 dying wish was something that could irrevocably change the direction of a court for a country.
6:07 And also there's a huge part of me that wishes that she spent her dying moments or hope that
6:12 she spent her dying moments thinking of something else other than the Supreme Court, perhaps
6:17 of her daughter or her son or her grandchildren or just her extended family and friends.
6:24 I would think that she spent more time thinking about that.
6:26 But again, in the politicization of everything right now, of course, that would be the thing
6:30 that everybody focuses in on.
6:32 But what a ridiculous thing for people to expect the United States Congress and for the president
6:37 to abide by a woman's dying wish.
6:42 Because again, and I'm certainly not the first person to point this out.
6:45 What if a incredibly conservative judge that had passed away?
6:47 So Scalia, when he passed away, if his final wish was, Hey, let's overturn Roe or let's
6:52 make sure that the next two people that we put on the quarter conservatives or, you know,
6:56 make sure that everybody in America gets a taco tomorrow, like none of that would make
7:02 sense.
7:03 Okay, it's a dying person's wish, but wishes don't just come true and it certainly doesn't
7:08 come true because you wear a fancy robe and you have an important job.
7:12 And so any of you out there, if you feel any modicum of pull towards that idea that we
7:17 should honor this woman's dying wish and leave the seat open in the meantime, that's a ridiculous
7:22 thing.
7:23 Like let's just be straight up honest.
7:24 Again, I'm not trashing a dead woman here.
7:27 And I would assume that that is what she said at some point before her death.
7:30 But yeah, that doesn't actually really matter.
7:33 But the reality of the situation here and again, I'm not piling on this woman or on
7:36 her legacy, but she made a tactical and narrative based decision, which led to a mistake, right?
7:44 So Ginsburg decided that she was not going to retire during the Obama administration.
7:49 Right, she was originally diagnosed with cancer during the Obama administration.
7:53 I can't remember what year it was off top of my head, but she was right there.
7:56 She could have retired right then and Obama would have put someone on there just like
8:00 he did with side of my or or Kagan someone that's very, very socially and otherwise liberal,
8:05 right?
8:06 But she chose not to do that.
8:07 And the reported reason is because she wanted to be replaced by the first female president
8:13 in the history of this country.
8:15 Now, everybody, including you, including everyone on the planet, except for maybe Donald J.
8:20 Trump thought that Hillary Clinton was going to win the election in 2016, but she didn't.
8:26 So basically Ruth Bader Ginsburg has been spending the majority of the last three and
8:31 a half years better part of four years trying to just stay alive.
8:34 And I know that's a curt way of saying it, but that's the reality.
8:37 She just wanted to stay alive at the chance that Donald Trump might be replaced by a democratic
8:41 candidate that's replacing her seat with another liberal.
8:45 It just didn't work out that way.
8:47 So some people are like, Oh, well, that's her mistake.
8:48 And that's her fault.
8:49 There's there's no real, I guess there is fault here.
8:52 Like if that was what you wanted, if you wanted to preserve the liberal leaning of your seat,
8:57 you would have you had an eight year span to go ahead and, you know, hang it up and retire.
9:01 She chose not to.
9:02 So bad for Democrats, great for Republicans.
9:05 But almost immediately, as you can imagine, Democrats started freaking out absolutely
9:11 freaking out and not just freaking out making open threats as to what the fallout would be
9:16 from this.
9:17 You know, there's certainly the people online.
9:19 There's a video going around that woman driving in her car and she's just losing her mind.
9:24 And the funny thing about that is she hit record knowing she was about to freak out.
9:29 And then she goes, Oh, this is a great video.
9:30 I'm going to post this online, not realizing she would just basically become a meme for
9:34 people on the right.
9:35 But you know, everyone's losing their minds.
9:38 There were protests that immediately broke out.
9:40 I don't know if those protests turned into really violent riots, but you know, who can
9:43 tell anymore because of what we're seeing.
9:45 But then we also saw some fundraising records that got broken.
9:49 The Democratic Party raised just over $90 million in 24 hours.
9:54 I think it was like $9.1 something dollars and 28 hours after the announcement of her
9:59 death.
10:00 I mean, an absolute deluge of money coming into the Democratic Party to try and help
10:05 them win the Democratic ticket for not only for the Senate, but also for the presidency.
10:11 But here's the thing that we've seen the Democrats say and that they've threatened.
10:16 These are Democrats that are holding office.
10:18 These are Democrats that are in the media, which is basically all Democrats.
10:22 These are people that are making these open threats, these overt threats now.
10:26 They're writing articles for the LA Times and for the Washington Post.
10:30 They're four main threats that we're getting right now.
10:32 Number one, we're going to stack the Supreme Court.
10:35 Number two, we're going to make States out of Washington, DC, Puerto Rico and maybe even
10:39 Guam.
10:40 Number three, we're going to end the filibuster.
10:43 And number four, we might even impeach Donald Trump again.
10:46 Now, you just got to think about this for a second.
10:50 Those are unbelievable threats, but the interesting thing about it, and I think Mitch McConnell
10:56 actually pointed this out, is they've already shot the hostage.
10:59 So that's an interesting way of saying that I actually love that, that phraseology.
11:03 But the thing is, it's, it's a threat that they've levied over the last several days,
11:08 but these are already threats that were out there from these same people.
11:12 These aren't new ideas that they're wanting to stack the Supreme Court, add States in
11:17 the filibuster in impeached Donald Trump, just in case he sneezes wrong, right?
11:22 But they're, they're more overt about it now.
11:24 These were things that were mentioned during the Democratic run up to basically Joe Biden
11:28 being the nominee.
11:30 This has been mentioned at other times, but at the end of the day, all of those threats
11:34 are threats of something very specific and it's political terrorism, which you might
11:40 think is too heavy handed, but you have to think about it.
11:42 You have to really think about it.
11:43 And I'm certainly not the first person to talk about it in this way.
11:46 You know, there's a lot of people that have been talking about this and writing articles
11:48 about this.
11:49 But if you stack the Supreme Court, like if you extend it from nine justices to 13 and
11:54 you add four that are of your liking, if you add States, that will definitely become
11:58 Democratic senators, if you in the filibuster, and if you impeach the president because he's
12:04 doing his constitutionally mange mandated job, we're not sure that there will be a country
12:09 left standing on the other side of that.
12:12 Because let's just play this out.
12:13 Let's say Joe Biden wins the presidency and the Senate flips from being Republican controlled
12:18 to Democrat controlled.
12:19 The house is going to stay no matter what, basically in November.
12:22 But if you have all of those branches of government blue and you decide to ram these things through
12:27 the, the, I don't think the right's going to be quiet anymore.
12:32 Now we have different tactics in the left.
12:35 But I think that's going to be a fairly extreme response.
12:38 And I don't think there's going to be a lot of States like my home state of Oklahoma.
12:41 We're not going to be down with that.
12:42 Texas isn't going to be down with that.
12:44 Like we're just not going to be seeing people be okay with this because we are not going
12:49 to be controlled by these political terrorists.
12:52 People that are, I mean, this, this is a child that's in the toy store and they're just like,
12:56 Oh, mommy, I want this toy.
12:58 I want this toy.
12:59 I want it.
13:00 Or I'm going to throw a fit.
13:01 I'm going to put my pants right here in the store.
13:03 That's what we're seeing.
13:04 I don't like what you're doing.
13:05 I don't like the signals that you're sending about where you're going to go.
13:08 So here's my over the top reaction to it.
13:11 So here's the thing guys, I hope they're bluffing.
13:14 I really do.
13:16 But if they're not, can you imagine the fallout?
13:21 So we'll keep our eye on that for sure.
13:24 But now a lot of hay is also being made about what happened in 2016 when Barack Obama nominated
13:31 Merrick Garland for the Supreme Court and the basically what the Republicans are doing right
13:36 now, which is, you know, because at the time the argument, the bad argument was made by
13:40 Republicans in 2016 that, Hey, this is the last year of, you know, an election cycle.
13:45 You know, we're not going to go ahead and nominate this person.
13:48 We're not going to basically do our jobs.
13:50 We're not going to put this person up for a vote.
13:52 It's essentially the argument that they made, the most cogent argument that they made.
13:56 But now you're seeing a lot of people saying, Oh, well, look at the Republicans.
13:59 They're flip flopping now, right?
14:01 You know, all of a sudden we're just, you know, a month and a half away from an election,
14:04 but they're just going to ram this person through.
14:06 And guys, a lot of people have explained this, but I just got to tell you, I don't think
14:10 anyone has explained it better than Senator Ted Cruz of Texas.
14:14 Okay.
14:15 So I'm going to play this clip.
14:16 I think he was on, he was on one of the Sunday shows, maybe meet the press or something like
14:19 that.
14:20 And he was asked about this situation in 2016 with Mayor Garland and the upcoming situation
14:25 with Trump's incoming nominee for the Supreme Court.
14:27 So let me just go ahead and play this for you because I thought he did a great job of
14:30 summing it up.
14:31 So here it is.
14:32 Uh, if you look at history, if you actually look at what the precedent is, this has happened
14:36 29 times, 29 times there has been a vacancy in a presidential election year.
14:42 Now, presidents have made nominations all 29 times.
14:45 That's what presidents do.
14:46 If there's a vacancy, they make a nomination.
14:48 What is the Senate done?
14:49 And there's a big difference in the Senate with whether the Senate is of the same party
14:54 of the president or a different party of the president.
14:57 When the Senate has been of the same party of the president, a vacancy occurs in an election
15:02 year of the 29 times, those are 19 of them of those 19, the Senate has confirmed those
15:07 nominees 17 times.
15:09 So if the parties are the same, the Senate confirms the nominee.
15:13 When the parties are different, that's happened 10 times.
15:16 Eric Garland was one of them of those 10, the Senate has confirmed the nominees only twice.
15:22 And there's a reason for that.
15:24 It's not just simply your party, my party.
15:26 The reason is it's a question of checks and balances.
15:29 In order for a Supreme Court nomination to go forward, you have to have the president
15:34 and the Senate.
15:35 In this instance, the American people voted.
15:37 They elected Donald Trump.
15:38 A big part of the reason they elected Donald Trump is because of the Scalia vacancy and
15:43 they wanted principal constitutionalists on the court.
15:47 And a big part of the reason why we have a Republican majority elected in 2014, reelected
15:52 in 2016, grown even larger in 2018, a major issue in each of those elections is the American
15:58 people voted and said, we want constitutionalist judges.
16:02 And so the president was elected to do this and the Senate was elected to confirm this
16:06 nomination.
16:07 Well, there you go, guys.
16:09 Again, this is a very important thing for everyone to understand because if you don't
16:13 understand the history of what's going on in this situation, you might be inclined to
16:16 say that this is exactly like the situation back in 2016.
16:19 I remember sitting down a couple of years ago with a buddy and we're having a few drinks
16:23 and we're talking about that situation and he's very much so on the left.
16:26 And he was like, well, Kyle, don't you think it was unfair that Merrick Garland wasn't
16:29 voted on?
16:30 And at the time, I was like, yeah, that was pretty unfair.
16:32 I wish they would have voted on him and just voted no, but instead they just didn't let
16:35 him through.
16:36 But I don't care.
16:37 I'm glad he's not on the court.
16:38 I'm glad we got Gorsuch instead of Garland.
16:40 I'm totally okay with that.
16:42 But I didn't realize the precedent that Ted Cruz just described right there, which is
16:46 essentially when the parties are the same, it pretty much goes through when the parties
16:50 aren't the same, they don't go through.
16:52 There's a lot of precedent for this.
16:54 And again, we have to remember because this is just kind of a small thing like, you know,
16:58 it was always big news whenever the house turned over from Republican to Democrat, but at
17:02 the time we have expanded as in terms of our voting as a country for the number of Republicans
17:07 that are on the Senate now and if they didn't, you know, put Roy Moore down there in Alabama,
17:11 it would be an even bigger amount of people that we would have on the Republican side
17:15 inside the Senate.
17:16 But that's just basically the way that it is.
17:18 So these people that are saying that Donald Trump is, you know, basically destroying the
17:22 legacy or stepping on the legacy of Ruth Bader Ginsburg by simply nominating somebody.
17:26 It's absurd because a nominee is always named and then it's up to the Senate to figure out
17:32 what to do from there and they're going to advise and consent and move on.
17:35 So again, I think that was a great way of that being summed up.
17:38 But to move on, we do need to look at basically whether or not the Republicans have the votes
17:42 to do this right now because that's the big key is do they actually have the votes to
17:45 do this?
17:46 Because one of my early thoughts, I'm sitting there enjoying my, my Arby's roast beef sandwich
17:50 in my, in my Arby sauce all over my French fries and then at the same time I'm thinking
17:54 to myself, dang it, Mitt Romney's going to mess this up for everybody.
17:57 That was like one of my first thoughts while I'm sitting there is Mitt Romney is going
18:00 to use this as another opportunity to stick it to Donald Trump.
18:05 But he actually is not going to be that person.
18:07 Yeah, he'll impeach him, but apparently he will vote for the individual that is put up
18:13 by Donald Trump because he announced Tuesday, this is yesterday as of the recording of this,
18:17 that he would vote to support the nominee and this is specifically what he said.
18:21 I'm just going to piece me all some of the parts from his quote, here's a quote, I intend
18:24 to follow the constitution and precedent in considering the president's nominee.
18:28 If the nominee reaches the Senate floor, I intend to vote based on their qualifications
18:32 and then he continues on historical precedent of election year nominations is that the Senate
18:37 generally does not confirm an opposing party's nominee, but does confirm a nominee of its
18:42 own unquote.
18:43 So again, he's just kind of driving home the point that was made previously by Ted Cruz,
18:46 but this is surprising and also not surprising because it's surprising because this guy literally
18:51 has a personal vehemence against Donald Trump.
18:53 That is so very clear.
18:54 I think Donald Trump and he don't see eye on a lot of things.
18:57 I think Donald Trump thought that or he made Romney think that he was going to be secretary
19:02 of state and then he went with somebody else like I think there's a lot of bad blood there.
19:06 It obviously led to the impeachment for, you know, Mitt Romney, giving that ridiculous
19:09 vote to impeach our president.
19:11 But at this point, I think this is just a shrewd political move for Mitt Romney for Mitt Romney.
19:15 He sees that he lives in the state of Utah.
19:18 And if he did not vote for the Supreme Court nominee, let's say he was the deciding vote
19:22 to not approve a nominee for the Supreme Court from Donald Trump, that that was going to be
19:26 the end of his political career, right?
19:29 Not just being a senator in Utah, that's the end of his political career.
19:32 There would be nowhere else for him to go.
19:34 He's needs are right off into the sunset and count as millions, but at the end of the day,
19:37 this was going to be horribly suicidal for his political career.
19:40 So he decided that he was going to go against that.
19:42 But then there were a couple of other Republicans that have have come out before and said things
19:46 that would make you think that they wouldn't vote for them.
19:49 But this was Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa and Senator Corey Gardner of Colorado, but
19:54 they both announced on Monday, a day before Mitt Romney that they would support President
19:57 Trump's nominee.
19:59 The only two as of now, the two lame ducks that we have are Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and
20:04 Susan Collins of Maine.
20:05 So Susan Collins is isn't she's in a toss up race for her seat in Maine right now.
20:11 And so she's trying to see what she's basically trying to see which way the wind is blowing,
20:16 right?
20:17 Which way her constituents are moving because obviously for her, she wants to make a decision
20:21 that keeps her seat.
20:22 So if she thinks that blocking the nominee or not voting for the nominee will help her,
20:26 that's what she'll do if she thinks that approving the nominee will help her.
20:30 That's what she will do.
20:31 But she's in a very tight race.
20:32 But as of right now, there's only two.
20:34 So the Republicans seem to have the votes.
20:36 That's what it seems like right now.
20:37 And guys, cocaine Mitch Mitch McConnell, he's not going to even pretend like this is going
20:42 to go up for a vote if he doesn't think he can get it through and just it would go against
20:46 everything that we've seen about how Mitch McConnell has ran the Senate and been the Senate
20:50 majority leader for all these years.
20:52 It just would make a lot of sense for this to not work out in that way.
20:55 So the other part of it is Donald Trump is signaling that on Saturday of this week, he's
21:00 going to announce the person that he thinks should be the next person on the Supreme Court.
21:06 And when he does that, all hell might literally break loose.
21:10 No matter who he does, I thought it would be funny if he just told everybody and announced
21:14 that he is going to nominate Michelle Obama just to see people's minds go crazy because
21:19 they wouldn't know how to deal with the dissonance only to say, no, no, not just kidding.
21:23 This is exactly who I would put up, but all hell will literally break loose.
21:26 No matter what, there is literally no telling what leftists, agitators, Marxist and Tifa
21:32 Black Lives Matter will do when this person is announced because guaranteed the person
21:37 that is announced will automatically be Satan, no matter what, no matter what they've done
21:41 in their lives, no matter how good or bad they've been, they're Satan.
21:43 They're the worst kind of evil.
21:45 It's going to be the worst thing possible.
21:47 And guys, I'm actually very concerned about what this process is going to look like because
21:51 we're going to talk about the potential nominees here in just a second.
21:54 But no matter what happens when they start doing the hearings and doing their advice
21:58 and consent and all those different things, the level of security that will have to happen
22:03 for these things to go on is going to have to be extreme.
22:06 I mean, you'll remember after Donald Trump accepted the Republican nomination in Washington,
22:10 D.C., we had sitting senators, Rand Paul being basically accosted on the street by Black
22:15 Lives Matter and in Tifa, just trying to get back to their hotels.
22:19 I mean, the level of security and secret service that's going to have to happen for these people
22:23 to be safe during the senators, but also whoever's being nominated is going to be extreme.
22:29 And I'm sure agitators are going to be burning cities and writing and breaking windows and
22:33 all that just because they can, because in the cities where they're doing that, they're
22:36 not going to be stopped, which little sidebar isn't interesting that Lancaster, you know,
22:40 where Matt Greiner, our lovely Matt Greiner, the drummer of August Burns Red, they had
22:44 a riot, right? You know, after the death of a guy that was literally trying to stab a cop
22:48 to death, the cops shot him and, you know, justified shooting, but everybody freaks out,
22:52 right? Isn't it funny that we haven't heard about riots in Lancaster anymore? The reason
22:57 is is because within 24 hours of the starting of the riots, the police and law enforcement
23:03 in that area got all the rioting stopped. They arrested a bunch of people and they were being
23:07 held on a million dollars bail for rioting. So here's a quick, quick thing for Seattle,
23:15 Portland, Washington, D.C., any of these other places where they're allowing this type of
23:19 thing to go on, Kenosha and me and Minneapolis. Guys, if you arrest these people and you hold
23:25 them in jail, not release them the same day, it's amazing that they won't be right out
23:30 there setting things on fire. Isn't that incredible? But we'll go and launch back in
23:34 here. Let's go and get into the potential nominees for this seat. So in my perspective,
23:39 and I'm not alone here, Trump has to hit a home run with this pick. He has to because
23:46 guys, I liked the Gorsuch pick and he's already made some decisions that I don't agree with,
23:50 but I think overall over the next several decades, we will like the Gorsuch pick. I don't like
23:55 the Kavanaugh pick. I'm pretty sure I said it at the time here on this podcast. I thought
24:00 I was absolutely absurd what they did to him and to his family, right? The Democrats have
24:05 shown their cards like they're going to be as vicious as they possibly can be with anyone
24:09 that Trump puts up. But I don't think Kavanaugh is going to end up being very constitutionally
24:13 conservative. I just don't. He's already signaled some things that we've seen. I wasn't really
24:18 a huge fan of the pick to begin with. So I feel like he really has to knock it out of
24:23 the park this time. So Trump has already said that he will likely nominate a woman. Again,
24:28 I don't really like the idea of identity politics playing into this. I gave the same type of
24:33 treatment to Joe Biden when he said that he was going to name a female vice president
24:38 and he was also going to name a female vice president of color. It's like, okay, you've
24:41 severely limited your options. Why don't you just pick the person that's most qualified
24:45 for the job and not base it on their immutable characteristics? So I would give the same
24:48 critique to Donald Trump. I don't like the fact that he said that outright regardless
24:52 of what his plans work, but hey, it is what it is. But here are the three potential people
24:56 that are being talked about the most. There's Amy Coney Barrett, which you've probably heard
25:00 about a lot. Barbara Lagoa and Allison Jones rushing. So Amy Comey Barrett is 48 years
25:06 old. She's on the US Court of Appeals for the seventh circuit. She is the front runner.
25:10 She supposedly met with Donald Trump at the White House on Monday. That's been confirmed
25:14 from from several different sources. This is who I wanted to begin with aside from Kavanaugh.
25:20 Like I didn't want Kavanaugh. I wanted Amy Coney Barrett. That's who I wanted from the
25:23 beginning. She's been described as a female Antonin Scalia. That's who she's been described
25:27 as she used to clerk for Scalia. She is a devout Catholic. She is a gangster on the abortion
25:32 issue. She's a mother of seven. Two of those kids are adopted from Haiti. She just seems
25:37 to be an incredibly bright, incredibly impressive justice, but incredibly conservative, constitutionally
25:43 conservative, right? She's one of the people that could be up there. I would be ecstatic
25:47 if she is chosen. But then you also have Barbara Lagoa. She's 52. She's on the US Court of Appeals
25:53 for the 11th circuit. She is the daughter of two Cuban, I guess we can call them refugees,
25:58 right? And she's in Florida. And so she is another person that Donald Trump put on a
26:02 federal bench. She seems to be fairly conservative in the things that she's done. She obviously
26:07 comes from a background that is, shows you what communism actually brings you. I mean,
26:12 she grew up basically steeped in the lessons of what happens if you're actually under a
26:17 communist regime. But the other thing about it is, is there are electoral implications
26:21 here because she is from Florida. And so Florida is going to be a tight race. You got dorks
26:26 like LeBron James and other people, George Soros, they're paying for felons in the defines
26:31 for felons in the state of Florida in order for them to be able to be released to vote,
26:36 which isn't that super interesting that they just automatically assume these people are
26:39 going to vote for Joe Biden. And they're probably right in that. But that's another little sidebar.
26:44 But this person, if she is put up there, that might give a bump to Donald Trump's numbers
26:48 in Florida for the sake of our country and for the sake of the court, I hope that's not
26:52 the main reason if she is chosen. I hope that's not the main reason that, you know, Donald
26:56 Trump's wanting to win an election here in six years because obviously at most Donald
27:00 Trump gets another four years as president, but someone like whoever he puts up here could
27:04 be on the bench for 30 40 years, right? So it's just a little bit of a different situation.
27:09 And then there's Alison Jones rushing. She's the youngest one that's being floated around.
27:13 She's only 38 years old. And she's on the US Court of Appeals for the fourth circuit.
27:17 And to be honest with you guys, I don't know enough about her. She has not been mentioned.
27:21 It basically seems like it's a two horse race between Barrett and Legoa right now, but maybe
27:25 we'll get get a surprise here. And it's going to be Alison Jones rushing. But again, I really
27:30 hope that he goes with Amy Comey Barrett. I really hope that he goes with her. But the
27:34 main reason there's a lot of reasons, right? But the main reason I want him to pick Amy
27:39 Coney Barrett is I want the Senate Democrats on record for their hatred of religious people.
27:47 Because the biggest thing quote unquote wrong with Amy Coney Barrett is the fact that she's
27:52 a devout Catholic and an outspoken devout Catholic. And as someone who has talked about her job
27:58 as a justice being for the building of the kingdom of God, ultimately. And when a liberal
28:05 hears that, when an atheist, when when a secular human is hears that, they just explode. They
28:10 lose their minds because that is so counter to what agrees with their sensibilities. And
28:16 I want all these people on record because they kind of did it with Kavanaugh, right? They
28:20 talked about his Catholic faith, but they were too busy calling him a gang rapist, right?
28:25 To really notice the fact that they were hating on him because he was Catholic, right? But
28:30 with Amy Coney Barrett, that's essentially the whole picture, right? Unless they're going
28:36 to say she's like in charge of some, you know, ring of people that murders puppies or that,
28:41 you know, she's an MS 13 somehow like they'll make up something, right? Those make up something
28:46 whole cloth. But at the end of the day, she's a devout Catholic and that's where they're
28:51 going to attack her. And I want them on record. I want us to always be able to look back. So
28:55 when we're talking to people and they're like, Oh, no, no, no, no, like liberals and in leftists
28:59 and Democrats, they don't, they don't hate religious people. You're crazy. Why would you
29:03 say something like that? Why would you? Why would you say something that was so inaccurate?
29:06 It's like, uh, we have 40 plus Democrats that basically went on record saying they hated
29:11 her because of her religion, right? So I'm actually kind of looking forward to that.
29:16 But here's the big thing that I need to talk about because another one of the first thoughts
29:19 that I had is that, Oh my gosh, this might, this might take down Roe v. Wade. You know,
29:25 we're replacing Ginsburg with an incredibly conservative justice. You know, Roe v. Wade
29:30 is about to be taken down, right? This is, this is finally the time that we take the
29:35 legs out from one of the worst judicial decisions in the history of this country. But I'm going
29:41 to kind of be a big downer for conservatives and for Christians here is that this pick
29:45 doesn't really threaten Roe v. Wade right now. It just doesn't. And so, so follow me
29:50 as I kind of explained this here. So right now we have quote unquote conservative justices.
29:55 So let me go and list those. We've got Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and then
30:00 Trump's nominee. That's six. But the reason why I say quote unquote conservatives is because
30:05 someone like Roberts, the chief justice, he has voted like a liberal. And he has broken
30:10 a lot of four, four ties and has gone with the liberal side, right? And he's saying
30:15 now it's because of precedent and I don't want to go against precedent. And so right
30:19 now you've got six quote unquote conservative justices, right? With Trump's nominee being
30:23 added to that. And then the liberal justices are Breyer, Sodomiah or in Kagan, right? But
30:28 here's the deal. Here are the people that will not vote to overturn Roe v. Wade. So we
30:34 already have Breyer, Sodomiah or Kagan, that's three. Justice Roberts, as I mentioned before,
30:39 he's number four, there's no way he's voting to overturn Roe v. Wade, especially with his
30:43 new obsession with precedent, right? Here's the other thing. I don't think Kavanaugh
30:48 or Alito would vote to do that either. So that's six. Because because even if I'm wrong
30:54 about Kavanaugh or Alito, that gets them to five because it would be Breyer, Sodomiah
30:58 or Kagan Roberts, and then either Kavanaugh or Alito. So in terms of right now, what I see,
31:04 the people who would likely vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, it's Justice Thomas who is my
31:09 favorite justice. He's my superhero. Then you have Barrett. If she's nominated, again,
31:13 I'm just going to assume she's nominated. I think she would vote to overturn Roe and
31:16 maybe Gorsuch, maybe Gorsuch. But I think there's two solid ones. If it's Thomas, or Thomas
31:23 definitely would. And then if Barrett is nominated, that's two solids and one maybe. But here's
31:29 the deal where it gets a little bit interesting. The next president, whether it's Joe Biden
31:34 or Kamala Harris, or Donald Trump, they might get three picks because it seems like Donald
31:41 Trump's going to get his third pick for the Supreme Court, right? But right now, Justice
31:46 Breyer is 82 years old. Justice Thomas is 72 years old and Alito is 70 years old. So that's
31:53 one liberal and two conservatives. So let's say Trump wins this election and gets all
31:58 three of those picks. Let's say all of them retire, right? During this time period, or,
32:02 you know, unfortunately, if something were to happen to them and they're no longer with
32:05 us or no longer alive, you would have Barrett plus the three new justices. So there's four
32:12 and maybe Gorsuch as your swing boat. There's five. So let me say that again. Obviously,
32:18 you got Breyer, Thomas, Alito, one can want two conservatives and one liberal. So if Trump
32:23 wins reelection and all three of those seats come up and he puts them in, you'll get someone
32:29 like Barrett, probably Barrett, you'll get the other three justices that he would elect and
32:34 nominate over the next four years, and then maybe Gorsuch as a swing vote. So as of right
32:40 now, all these people freaking out, all these Democrats freaking out that perhaps they're
32:44 not going to be able to kill babies. Like at the convenient rate that they're killing them
32:48 right now, like they don't really don't need to worry. These are people that just don't
32:53 pay attention to the decisions that are handed down by these justices. This doesn't flip that.
32:59 But there is a decent possibility that if Donald Trump is reelected, that it would be.
33:06 And so the podcast today is not about who should vote for November. Believe me, I'm still spending
33:11 some time thinking through that and thinking about how I'm going to bring that information
33:14 to all of you guys. But the general consensus here is that elections have consequences.
33:20 So right now, all those people that didn't really pay attention to those Senate debates
33:23 in their states or didn't feel the need to go vote or maybe it was raining that day.
33:27 So it was kind of inconvenient for them. Elections have consequences. And if you live in a state
33:32 that has two Republican senators and you're a very liberal person and you want to make
33:35 sure that liberals can keep killing babies, you know, you're not very happy right now.
33:39 You think the world's falling down. You're thinking that a lot of these religious liberties
33:43 that you find bigoted are going to be enshrined now, even though they already are because
33:47 that precludes and proceeds, basically what we've seen with the US Constitution and the
33:53 founding of this country. But at the same time, these people don't realize that elections
33:58 have consequences. Because every year that we have elections, we have these people that
34:03 screen the loudest and then they don't end up going to vote, right? And the quiet folks,
34:08 um, call them the silent majority or just people that are quiet about their political
34:11 leanings. Those are the people that actually hop in their truck or hop on a bus and they
34:15 go to the polling station and they vote. So elections have consequences. Can you imagine
34:21 what would be happening right now? If Hillary Clinton had won in 2016 and they had flipped
34:27 the Senate blue, we would be looking at our third justice and there would be a super super
34:33 duper majority, even of liberal justices on the Supreme Court, such a majority that it
34:38 may take generations to flip that if ever able to flip that. So let this be a message
34:44 to you guys. There's a lot of guys that get really lazy about voting, right? And I don't
34:49 want to vote my conscious because that doesn't make sense. You can't legislate and you can't
34:52 do this. I have whatever your excuses. It has a difference. It makes a difference. So again,
34:57 for me, I live in the state of Oklahoma, right? Just about every position that could be read
35:01 in the state is read. Our senators are going to remain read. We're going to vote every
35:05 county for Donald Trump in November. But at the same time, this is a time for you, even
35:10 if you're in a state like that, if you're in the state of Oklahoma, all of these things
35:13 matter. The messages that you send out to people, the discussions that you have with
35:18 people, these all matter because what if you're talking to someone and they didn't even understand
35:22 the precedent of what's happening right now that this isn't uncommon for a president in
35:26 a, in, you know, the last year of their term to go ahead and put up a nominee. And if the
35:30 Senate is from the same party that they will likely put that person through. You got to
35:33 be able to explain that around. But guys, buckle up. It's going to be crazy. And I'm releasing
35:38 this episode a little bit earlier than the normal schedule because I'm assuming something
35:43 might change tonight. So I want to get it to you now. So I have plausible deniability
35:46 that I didn't know this had changed or that had changed. We've got some stuff on the off
35:50 incoming. We already have the city of Louisville. They're preparing for the fallout of whatever
35:54 is going to be announced this week about Breonna Taylor. It looks like they're not going
35:58 to be charging or arresting the officers with the shooting and killing of Breonna Taylor.
36:02 And there's a lot of reasons for that. So guys, I'm assuming this isn't going to be the last
36:05 time I talked to you this week. But if not, we'll get after it next week. All right, guys,
36:09 thanks so much for listening to the podcast. We really appreciate it. But before we let
36:12 you go, we're going to do a quick resilience boost. I kind of got to have myself there
36:14 for a second. We are a men's ministry and our mission is cultivating mainly resilience
36:18 and specifically we do that by providing you content that helps you forge spiritual, mental
36:22 and physical toughness. So for today, I've got a very interesting article for you. It's
36:26 from five thirty eight. So they do a lot of kind of political data analysis and things
36:30 like that. But it's called what the Supreme Court's unusually big jump to the right might
36:35 look like. So it kind of looks at, you know, Ruth Bader Ginsburg is seen as the most liberal
36:40 or the second most liberal judge on the court. And if Donald Trump elects some way that would
36:45 be, you know, even to the right of Justice Thomas, basically what that would do to the
36:50 potential operation of the court over the long term and how this could affect decisions
36:56 that are forthcoming. So I thought it was a very interesting article article. It's not
36:59 that long. So you should definitely check it out. All right, guys, thanks so much. We
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