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This is on Daunted Life, a man's podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson, let's get into it.
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All right, guys, there is a subject matter that we talked about a lot on this podcast.
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It just comes up and it totally comes up because I can help make a point with it.
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But I talk about jujitsu all the time on this podcast and there's a reason for it.
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And guys, we've talked about this a lot and we've done whole episodes on it before.
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So if you go back to episode five, we're almost at episode 150.
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But to episode five of this podcast, it's called Six Months of Jujitsu.
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I kind of go through what it was like, you know, starting my jujitsu journey being six months in
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because you got to think, guys, a lot of guys don't even get to six months.
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I mean, they go to a handful of classes here or there.
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They just figure out it's not for them or it's too hard or whatever.
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And they just don't make it and that's not to pat myself on the back.
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That's just a reality.
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Most guys don't make it past white belt.
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It's just something that you try it and then you kind of move on.
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But also in episode 62 of this podcast, I talk about my experience gaining or earning my blue belt.
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And so that's a process for a lot of folks.
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They don't get to blue belt normally.
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But then the thing about blue belt is a lot of guys, if they get an upper belt,
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that's someone that they get and then, you know, life gets in the way and then maybe they never
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go to purple or brown or black or whatever situation is there.
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But we talk about jujitsu a lot because jujitsu is just such an important thing for men
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because it's one of the ways that you can cultivate physical and mental resilience
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and not really get brain damage.
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So we'll get more into kind of what it's like in terms of how it's important for your life.
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But the thing about it is, is for the last year or so, my jujitsu journey has been really,
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really strange and super interrupted.
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Okay.
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So I had two surgeries in a row.
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So let's go back to kind of middle of last year.
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I had back-to-back surgeries, right?
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And so I kind of planned them out that way.
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So it was like, okay, when I'm, you know, done rehabbing, I'm done rehabbing, right?
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I can get right back into lifting, right back into jujitsu and, you know,
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not be done with it, but just kind of get back on to things.
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And so by the end of last year, I was starting to train regularly again,
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but then we hit, we're hit with COVID.
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And so, you know, February, March of this year, our gym shut down,
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like most gyms, or every gym on the planet.
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And, you know, everyone's trying to figure out what exactly we're going to do.
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So there wasn't really a way to train in a way that was normal, right?
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I got some stuff from BJJ Fanatics.
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And I got John Donner, her had a train, train at home by herself,
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regiment and video that he gave away, which was awesome.
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And it's just, you know, you could kind of piecemeal some stuff together.
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And I knew about some kind of like underground training sessions that were going on,
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but it was just one of those situations where it's like, yeah,
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you should probably just let your body recover or just make sure you stay sharp mentally.
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And then pretty much right after everything started to open back up,
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you know, my wife and I had sweet baby James, right?
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And so when James is here, I'm not going to be one of those guys.
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That's like, all right, yeah, cool.
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I'm going to go ahead and just leave.
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I know the baby's three days old.
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We just got home, but man, I got to go train.
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That's just not really the guy that I'm going to be.
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And then obviously I've detailed to you guys before that he had a lot of health issues,
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some really, really scary health issues early on in the evenings,
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which is when I would normally train.
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That's whenever my wife was under the most amount of strain and stress with him.
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And she needed the most amount of help.
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So I say all that to say that the last year or so,
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I've lost the better part of the last year of training.
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And here's the thing about jujitsu is it's very, very different.
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It's very different than what you would expect.
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Because you'll talk to people that are maybe they used to train for iron man's,
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but it's like, oh, I don't really train that much anymore.
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The big fundamental difference with jujitsu and something like iron man running,
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biking, swimming, that kind of stuff is you don't forget how to do it.
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So let's say you used to train for iron man's and so you could run a marathon, no problem.
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And now you can run 10 miles before you really start getting into a lot of pain or something like that.
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It's not like you forget how to run.
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I mean, you just decide and you swing your arms and you step your feet and then you know,
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you're off, you're running, same thing with biking.
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You don't forget how to ride a bike.
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The thing with jujitsu though, is when you don't do it,
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you lose a lot of the mental sharpness that you need in order to be successful at jujitsu,
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whether you're just training in the room with your teammates or your training to compete or
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whatever the situation is.
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That's essentially a really tough thing for you to overcome when you're not training a lot.
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There are certain things that you don't see.
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There are certain moves that just aren't there in your brain or you're too slow.
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And by the time you think, oh, I should hit this, you know,
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your partner has already gone to another move and now you've got to like kind of reframe everything
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and try to get caught back up.
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That's the thing with jujitsu is when you lose that amount of time and then you get back on the mat,
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you know, you remember some things physically.
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Some things are literally like riding a bike.
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There's certain positions that you like to get to.
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There's certain things that you can do to certain types of people to have certain body types or
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athletic abilities, whatever that is, but at the end of the day, it's not the same.
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You're not as sharp.
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That's why when you have these guys that are world champion level people,
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this is what they do.
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They train multiple times a day and they're running drills and it's just constantly on their mind.
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But when you lose the better part of your training, you're just trying to get the wheels back on.
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You know, I told you guys have a blue belt, but right now I feel like a seven stripe white belt,
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which for those of you guys that do jujitsu, you only get four stripes.
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If you didn't know that, you get four stripes.
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So, you know, I just feel like I'm a super advanced white belt at this point.
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It's almost like the blue belt's embarrassing for me to have.
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But, you know, I'll keep it.
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Don't worry.
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I'll keep working my way towards purple.
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But, you know, it's not a great thing that you lose that amount of time.
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But the thing is, is you have to get back out there.
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You have to get your training back going.
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And whatever consistency you can get, that's what you should do.
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That's why I tell people all the time, like, oh, I'm so busy.
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You know, I can't really do that.
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Well, there's a lot of schools that have six AM classes and middle of the day classes
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and evening classes, there's private classes, you know, mid morning, mid afternoon.
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There's a lot of schools that will kind of acquiesce to your schedule and what can work,
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you know, right now with kind of my schedule and the things that I need to help with,
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it's right in the middle of the day.
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In the middle of the day is the best time for me to train.
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And so I'm hitting like some 11 o'clock classes and some noon classes and stuff like that.
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But anyway, this isn't just about that.
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But I've gotten back into training and there's certain things that you can keep up.
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You can keep your cardio up.
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You can keep your strength up, but you really got to get that mad time.
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Well, on Sunday of this past week, well, you don't know when I'm recording this,
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but about a week ago from the time that I'm recording this, we do this thing with our
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Sunday night foxhole group.
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It's called bull in the ring.
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So when there's a huge thing happening in somebody's life, whether it's maybe they're
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about to have their first kid or a guy that's a leaving town.
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We had a guy that moved to Mexico to become a missionary or if it's your birthday.
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One thing that we do is you have to go a minute with every single guy in the room.
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You have to roll.
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So basically you start out on your feet, but after that first minute is up,
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the next guy just comes right into whatever position the previous guy was in.
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So if you let a guy take side control or take your back or mount or something like that,
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you're going to be stuck there and you have to go a minute with everybody in the room without
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breaks.
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And so the thing about that is it's a tremendously difficult thing for you to do when you're the
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bull in the ring because these guys know they're only going 60 seconds, right?
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And so they're going full bore and you got guys in that group that are really good
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fundamentally, you got guys that aren't good fundamentally, but everyone's varying shapes
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and sizes and decent athletes.
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And it's just a hard night out.
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And so this last Sunday, we celebrated my birthday and I think we had 14 or 15 guys
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that went one right after the other right after the other.
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But it's funny when you walk into a situation like that, I've been training a whole lot
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more than a lot of those guys.
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I thought I was going to be able to handle myself a little bit better,
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but it was just one of those things.
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I was just a step behind or I would get into a certain position and it's like, man, this
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is a little bit uncomfortable.
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I have no idea why you can't shimmy out.
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But again, that's just part of the process.
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It was a really, really fun night got tapped a bunch by some of my closest friends in the
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entire world.
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That's the thing whenever you're done, everybody claps.
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Everybody gives you a big hug and then we move on with training.
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So it was kind of a cool experience, but then fast forward four days.
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And then the situation wasn't nearly as positive.
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I'll put it that way.
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So on Thursday night, I've done the Thursday night class for a long time at the forge
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in Edmond, Oklahoma, but that's comp class.
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Okay.
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So that is where you get the hardest rounds of your week for the most part.
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This is where the people that are training to compete, whether they're doing these one-offs,
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like fight to win, or whether they're doing tournaments like AGF or IBJJF or any of those
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types of tournaments.
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This is where you get that training in.
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This is where you get those hard rounds in with people that are just like you trying
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to compete.
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This is where you're going to get the closest to game day.
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Right.
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But the thing is, is because of what I was telling you earlier, I had missed a lot of comp classes.
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Right.
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But that's the class I want to be at.
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From the very, very beginning, I asked one of our buddies that trains a lot.
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I'm like, hey, what's the hardest class of the week?
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He said Thursday night, so I was like, cool, that's going to be the one that I go to.
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And so it's ebbed and flow.
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There's been some huge classes, some small classes, but it's typically a really, really tough night out.
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So right before comp class, I did the fundamentals class.
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So that's just a good one.
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It's a key class, you know, you got everything from white belt to black belt in there.
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Everyone's just kind of sharpening the sword, doing the basics.
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But then it was no, it was no key comp class, right?
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And so for me, I'm way more comfortable in the key.
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Now I feel like I can slow people down.
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I can kind of get my grips and kind of work it myself into some different positions.
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Whereas no, you know, you don't have any of that.
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You can't grab on.
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It's just you.
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It's a whole lot more technique.
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Now you can explode out some stuff athletically, but it's a little bit different.
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But here's the thing about comp class.
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Typically, when you stop and look around, you can identify hammers and nails.
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And for those of you that grew up wrestling, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
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There are people in the room that are just hammers and they are in search of a nail,
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and there are usually plenty of them.
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Here's the colossal difference about my Thursday, my last Thursday night comp class.
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I looked around the room and I only saw hammers.
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That's it.
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And I'm kind of looking at my left and to my right, I'm seeing the guys that are in there.
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And I'm like, man, these are all really, really good guys.
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And then it occurred to me all at once.
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Oh, I'm the nail.
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I'm the nail tonight.
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Because here was the other unique thing about this particular comp class.
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It was a smaller class, but all of the guys that were in there were at least my size,
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but most of them were bigger.
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And so guys, I'm five foot 10, 195 pounds.
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I'm a decent athlete.
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I'm decently strong.
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You know, I'm not too, I'm not huge, but I'm not small at the same time.
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There were two guys in the class that were about my size and everybody else was more like 215,
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220 or bigger.
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And we were doing rounds.
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You know, we did a little bit of warm up technique and then we just did rounds.
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And we were doing six minute rounds.
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And I think I did, I ended up being seven or eight, six minute rounds with 60 seconds rest in between.
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And guys, your boy got mauled for an hour. And when I say mauled, there are certain guys
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that are really good at jujitsu.
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And they're like, Oh man, I got mauled.
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Meaning that they had some tough matches and some guys got the better of them.
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When I use the term mauled, I mean, I was helpless because you don't use the word,
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you know, mauled when you're talking about a dog, like a dog attack necessarily,
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like that's not something you like a dog doesn't normally maul an adult human,
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but like a grizzly bear.
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They maul you, right?
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You're completely helpless.
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It doesn't matter how many pushups you did that morning,
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how far you can run that grizzly is faster than you.
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He's stronger than you.
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And you're just going to be helpless.
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That was me.
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Last comp class.
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And to make matters worse, one of my one of the few things that I that I do
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pretty good in jujitsu is takedowns.
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It's just something it's about aggression and timing and athleticism.
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And it's just like that's something that I typically am comfortable doing.
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The problem was is in this particular comp class,
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we didn't have the big fan on above us.
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And so the mats were soaked with sweat.
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And so in jujitsu, we don't have wrestling shoes on.
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So it's just your bare feet.
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And you cannot explode off of your feet when the mats are wet like that.
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And so I started to do some of the things that I normally thought that I could do.
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And that was to shoot, but my feet would just slide right out from underneath me.
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And then I would end up in a front headlock, end up in a guillotine.
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And it's like, dang it, like, you're, you're kind of trying to work your way in your brain
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to figuring out, you know, what are the things that I can do to this person?
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And, and maybe how can I bet, bait them to bring their, their leg closer?
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So I don't have to like shoot and, you know, slip inside or whatever the situation was.
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But guys, I'm not even fully convinced that if the mat was completely,
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completely pristine and dry and I had grip on my feet or wrestling shoes or whatever,
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I don't know that it would have been fundamentally different.
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Because what ended up happening is round after round after round.
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I went with guys that were physically superior to me, mentally superior to me,
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and could do whatever they wanted at any point,
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which is a horrible feeling when you're a guy like me.
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And a lot of you guys out there that even just made you,
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ooh, it just kind of made you feel uncomfortable just hearing me describe that.
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Because part of the reason why I do jujitsu is so that I can't be controlled by somebody physically.
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Now, the odds of you running into somebody on the street that is like one of my buddies
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that I train with on Thursday is not very likely.
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These are all like brown and black belt level no-ge type guys, super technical, super strong.
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But I think around the fourth or fifth round in a row, I start realizing that this is bad
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and it's only going to get worse and there's still time on the clock for this class.
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And I'm trying to figure out what, okay, so what's the game within the game?
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Because I can't win this match, right?
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You know, it's just training, but you're keeping score in your head
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and you're trying to figure out kind of where you're at with this person.
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There's nothing, right?
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I didn't score as many points as guys got submissions on me.
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Like just an absolute complete mauling.
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And at different points, I just got to be honest with you.
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I'm like, what am I doing here?
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Exactly.
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Like, I'm a punching bag for these guys because you can tell when a guy's going really hard
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and he's having to put in a lot of effort.
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These guys weren't even having to do that.
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They were very calm and in control the entire time.
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They knew what I was about to do before I would do it and they would take advantage
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and they would get the submission.
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Now, again, we're teammates, so these guys aren't trying to hurt you,
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but at the same time, it's like, there's only so many times you can get your net cranked on
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and your knee, you know, in a knee bar or an ankle locker or an arm lock to where you're just like,
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okay, this is, this is getting diminishing levels of return for me.
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I'm only here potentially getting hurt, but you know what?
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You suck it up, you do the rest of the rounds, the nights over,
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you change your clothes, you slap hands with everybody, and then you walk out the door.
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But when I walked out the door that night, there was a little internal dialogue
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that I had with myself in the 20 feet or so before I got to my truck.
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And it was, man, I feel like I've got two choices here now.
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Choice one, make that the final jujitsu practice of my life.
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Or choice number two, get back in there as quickly as possible and train again.
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And guys, this is not going to come as a Supreme Shock to most of you.
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I obviously immediately decided that the latter was the most appropriate thing to do
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because here's the thing, jujitsu's hard and it doesn't really get easier
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because jujitsu is a game that's constantly evolving.
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And so even black belts, even professor level black belts that can, you know,
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promote other black belts, there's always something you don't know.
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There's always some pocket of the world where they're working on this specific
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technique that just changes everything.
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I mean, just guys, let me just take a slight divergence to MMA real quick.
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The low calf kick, you know, the low calf kick in MMA,
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that is like a center point for a lot of fights now.
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Like you're basically taking the spring out of the person's lead leg.
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That has not been around for forever.
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The first guy I can remember doing that was Benson Henderson.
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And that was a long time ago.
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That was in his UFC days, not even in Bellator.
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But that is something that is completely revolutionized.
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A lot of fights, including championship fights, right?
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The same thing happens in jujitsu.
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You got, you know, the Donna, her death squad.
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And you got Gordon Ryan figuring certain things out.
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And then you got Seanji.
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And you got, you know, you know, 10th planet.
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And you got all these different groups and Atos and in these different schools
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that are just doing things in a unique way.
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Jujitsu is always evolving and expanding.
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But at some point, you're going to have that internal dialogue with yourself.
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Like, is this worth it?
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Is it worth it to continue coming in here and to continue,
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continue getting rolled up and beaten up by your friends?
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Is it worth it to spend 60 bucks or 70 bucks and, you know,
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put your name into the hat at a tournament just to go out there
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and get embarrassed in the first 60 seconds?
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Is it worth it?
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And guys, this is kind of the point of the podcast for today.
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It's going to be a little bit of a shorter episode.
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But jujitsu is like life in a lot of ways.
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And, you know, you've heard people say that about a million different things.
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Oh, this is just like life or that is just like life.
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But jujitsu really is.
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Because when you come in on the first day, you will not be successful.
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Like, this isn't an accidental sport.
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I mean, there are guys reasonably that have never swung a baseball bat in their life.
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And if I put them in a batting cage, put a helmet on them and put a bat in their hands,
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they might start being able to make pretty good contact at a certain point.
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Some people are just wired for that.
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Same thing.
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If you want to use an MMA example, and you've heard people talk about this.
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You know, Joe Rogan's talk about this a lot, but boxing,
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you can take a guy off the street that has never been taught how to punch.
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But we instinctively as humans know how to punch.
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So you, you'd be reasonable to assume that you could get that guy in a sparring match
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immediately with somebody and he could, he could certainly get lucky.
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He could punch where the guy's head is.
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And you know, the guy doesn't move his head and he hits him right on the button and then he goes down.
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That doesn't happen in Jiu Jitsu.
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You're not going to accidentally triangle somebody.
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You're not going to accidentally armbar somebody.
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You're not going to accidentally choke someone unconscious.
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Like, these are just not things that happen when, when you're doing this.
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So when you get into Jiu Jitsu, you know, you are who you are athletically.
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You are who you are physically.
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You are who you are mentally.
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And you're a no stripe white belt.
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And some guys are in gals.
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They, they ascend faster because either they train more or they get it faster or whatever the
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situation is there, but you have to start at the bottom.
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So think about all the different scenarios in life that are just like that.
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You know, you start at the bottom at a new job, right?
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And you think you're better than you are, but at the same time you come in there and you're like,
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man, these, these people really do know more than I do.
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I should probably just hush up and listen.
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You know, whenever you marry somebody and then you're the new guy in the family.
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I mean, if you come in and you're bombastic and cocky at the first Thanksgiving dinner table,
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it's like, eh, I don't know that's the best thing for you.
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You should probably just hush up and learn the room.
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You know, learn what needs to happen.
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Jiu Jitsu is a whole lot like life, but in the biggest way possible,
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Jiu Jitsu is about taking care of your ego and then taking care of your mind.
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So the ego is something a little bit different because you might think ego and mind are very
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similar, but the ego is the big one.
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Because like I've told you before, we've got guys that come into our gym and they're athletic.
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You know, maybe they played, you know, college football or maybe they're, you know,
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they're a gym rat and they're just swelled out of their brain.
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I mean, they're just physically imposing people and then they come in and they do
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one Jiu Jitsu practice in the G and they just get rolled up for an hour.
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And they haven't experienced that in a while.
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These are guys that have been superior athletes in whatever setting that they
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decided to join for basically their entire lives, at least for their recent past.
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And now all of a sudden it's like, oh, I'm completely terrible at this.
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And there's not really much that I can do about it.
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And most guys don't like that.
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They're like, no, no, I think I'm gonna go play golf.
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I'm a thing I'm gonna go back to the gym.
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You know, I'm gonna go pump some iron, do something that I'm used to,
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something that I'm good at.
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And even this morning in Sunday school, the guy that taught her Sunday school class,
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most men are like that.
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They'd like to be on the island by themselves doing the things that they can master.
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So they're not playing the new video game.
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They're playing the old one that they're really good at.
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They're not doing the new job.
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They're going to stick in the old job that they kind of got some respect.
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And they got a bunch of people that look up to them.
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They're not going to do the new sport or the new physical activity,
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because they're like, hey, I got these other ones dialed in.
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And basically when a guy gets to that position, they stop developing.
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You know, I even mentioned this in Sunday school this morning.
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It's like guys, you should always look back on who you were five years ago
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and be at least somewhat embarrassed, at least somewhat.
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Because the thing is, is if you look back on who you were five years ago,
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so that would, you know, be the 29 year old version of myself,
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there were things that I said and did and thought and acted upon
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that are appalling to me now.
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Like what a moron.
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Why would you ever do that?
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Why would you think such a thing?
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But for most guys, you look back on who you were five years ago.
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You don't see very many fundamental differences.
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You have a few more wrinkles in your forehead and a few more gray hairs in your beard.
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But at the end of the day, you're the same guy.
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The same guy mentally, probably the same guy physically or worse.
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You should always look back and be a little bit embarrassed.
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But that's the thing about your jizzos.
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If you keep coming, pretty much the only option is getting better.
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Because you got caught in that triangle last week, but this week,
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you know, it's coming when he puts his foot in this spot on your hip,
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and he puts his hand in this spot on your collar.
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You know what the next step is.
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So you can start to defend.
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Oh, but then, you know, he was going to do that.
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But now he's transitioned to the arm lock.
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Oh, gosh, you know, he got you in an arm bar.
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Dang it.
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Well, now you're starting to piece some things together.
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And isn't that like life?
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You learn certain things as you go that you couldn't have known up front.
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But now you are responsible to those things that you have learned.
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Because it's absurd for you to learn how to do things better
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and choose to do them the old way, which is not as good or that led to failure.
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The same is true here.
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That's why you constantly put the reps in.
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And the ego side of it, I think I lost my point there for a little bit.
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You got the ego side, which is you're literally never going to get to a spot
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where there's not somebody that can beat you.
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I mean, there's, there's, I can count on one hand the number of guys
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that aren't really concerned about being beaten in jujitsu, right?
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And I'm probably being generous using all five fingers, right?
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There's just guys that they're just untouchable.
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And then there's everybody else, the millions about other people that do jujitsu.
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But it is a constant ego trip because the moment you think, man,
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I'm stronger than I've ever been.
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My cardio is great.
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You have a night like I did on Thursday night and you come right back down to where you should be.
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And the other side is mental because as I'm walking out of jujitsu on Thursday night,
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feeling the way that I feel and I mean physically, right?
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Not like emotionally, but feeling physically like I felt.
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Neck was sore, body was sore.
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I'm like, I'm going to be paying for this for a few days.
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You have that mental battle and that's your biggest opportunity to cultivate mental resilience.
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Because it's so easy to cultivate mental resilience when you're doing things that you're good at.
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As we just talked about it, the guy on the island by himself,
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you're used to being that guy at work.
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You're used to being that guy on the intramural basketball team.
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You're used to being that guy in the Sunday school class.
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It's always saying the really cool quotes or whatever your situation is.
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But it's when you step outside of that.
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That's when you grow.
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That's when you can actually break yourself onto the rocks of some sort of ideology or
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philosophy or way of operating that you didn't even know existed before because you were just
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chilling on the boat.
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And it's that mental side that I'm so thankful that I get doses of every single week.
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Because guys, you're going to have moments in your life where training is really easy and the
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kids are out of the house and your wife's not breathing down your neck and you can go train
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a bunch. I know a buddy of mine, both of his kids are in college.
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And so he literally trains to Jiu Jitsu every single night.
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And it shows that the dude's absolutely awesome.
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And he's just a physical freak.
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But then there are times whenever your baby's sick, things are rough at home.
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Things are rough with the business or the job or with the kids.
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And you've got to spend some time homebound.
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But Jiu Jitsu's always going to be there.
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I sent some messages to some of my coaches, some of my closest coaches,
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just basically telling them like, hey, guys, just a reminder.
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Like, I haven't forgotten about Jiu Jitsu because I obviously knew I had been gone for
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a while with the surgeries and with, you know, COVID and with different things.
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And it's just like, it's kind of you get used to people not being there.
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But there are people that just fade away and they fade away for nefarious reasons.
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They had a bad practice, had a bad tournament.
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They just decide they're not going to do this anymore.
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But I just let them guys know.
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I'm like, dude, I'm as dedicated as ever to Jiu Jitsu.
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It's just the physicality of me physically being able to be present in the room.
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I'm in a weird season.
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And all of them basically gave me the same response, which was, hey, man, all good.
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Jiu Jitsu will be here when you get back.
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Everybody has their ebbs and flows with life.
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And we're ready for you when you ramp things back up, which is the exact right response.
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But again, Jiu Jitsu takes care of the ego and it takes care of the mental side.
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And the mental side is always that ability to get up and get back in there.
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And here's one actual tip to people that are training Jiu Jitsu.
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And then I'll make my plea for those that aren't training and then we'll get out of here.
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For those of you that are training Jiu Jitsu and you're like me, right?
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You're not that good.
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You know, you're early in your Jiu Jitsu career.
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You know, you're just don't know a lot of things.
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When a guy comes in there that's physically about the same as you,
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but it's been training for a little bit longer and you're going to get work.
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Here's my message to you.
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Always get up before they do.
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So I look back on my Thursday night and in terms of the roles that I was having with these guys,
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there wasn't a whole lot to write home about.
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There wasn't a whole lot of good that happened in these roles.
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But after every single submission, whether it was a triangle or a guillotine or an anaconda
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or any of the myriad of boxes that these guys checked off on me on that night,
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I always got up before they did.
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And there's no victory in that when it comes to Jiu Jitsu.
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You don't get points for getting up quicker than the other guy after you've been submitted.
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The match is over.
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But in those scenarios, that was something that I could control.
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And it was almost a nonverbal message to a teammate of mine that I respect
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and that I love and that we're iron sharpening iron in that moment and sat,
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"Hey, I'm still here."
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And for some of you might think, "Well, that's kind of dumb.
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What are you, a glutton for punishment?"
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Maybe.
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Perhaps that's right.
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But I did the same thing the night when I got my blue belt.
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I mean, the night you get your blue belt,
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or the night you get promoted, that's not a night for you to shine.
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That's a night for you to get beaten down.
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And there's a lot of guys in the room to make sure of that,
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to ensure that that happens to you in the worst and most embarrassing way possible.
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But you need to control the controllables, right?
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You know, going back to my podcast I did with Hard L. Moore,
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you know, longtime wrestling coach and really good amateur wrestler.
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But control the controllables.
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I could control getting up before they did.
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Not sitting on the mat and taking some deep breaths and sulking and like,
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"Oh man, I got tapped again."
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And then get up and kind of drag yourself over, you know,
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slap bump and then okay, let's do it again.
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No, I got tapped.
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I got up before you and I got my hand out waiting on you.
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Let's do it again.
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So for those of you guys that, you know,
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if you're still listening to this a half hour in and this doesn't even land with you,
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you know, what's Jiu Jitsu, why should you do that?
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Isn't that just like karate or if you're one of those types of people,
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you know, I can't convince you otherwise at the moment as to the fundamental differences
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between those two particular martial arts.
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I would just ask you to, you know, look at MMA and see how many people are doing karate
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versus how many people are doing Jiu Jitsu.
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But beyond that, what are you waiting for?
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Why haven't you started training?
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Because guys, I know a lot of you on this podcast,
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a lot of you like your video games.
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You like your fantasy football.
29:42
You know, you like sports betting.
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You like golfing.
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You like, you like all these things that I'll admit at different times and places in my life
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have been entertaining, right?
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But are those things making you better or are they just leisure activities?
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Again, I know I talk about golf a lot, but it's like,
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it's just not something that I find terribly entertaining.
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You know, there's nothing really fun about it for me.
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I'm just wired a little bit different.
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If golf's your thing, hey, man, I'm not hating on it.
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Enjoy yourself, you know, make sure that you don't, you know,
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lose your marriage or lose your family because you're spending, you know,
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three or four times a week, you're going and playing 18 holes with your friends.
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But that's not making you better physically or mentally.
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It's just not.
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It's not allowing you the opportunity to cultivate resilience in those ways.
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And so I talk to guys a lot, you know, I'll get people that reach out to me,
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either in person or on Instagram or through email.
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Like, man, I'm really trying to cultivate physical resilience.
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What should I do?
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And then I tell them, and then they don't do it.
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And the thing is, is they're not responsible to, to me or they're not,
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you know, beholden to me to do the things that I say.
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But when you come to somebody and you ask them for advice,
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and then you don't take it, what does that say about you?
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The number of guys, I've talked about this a lot,
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the number of guys that I've invited to come to jujitsu,
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especially just Sunday night, which is about as good a place of entry as any, right?
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You know, we're a glorified book club and, you know, we train a little bit,
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and then we do a little bit of jujitsu or striking,
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and then everybody goes home in one piece.
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It's, it's not super serious.
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No one's in there thinking that they're, you know, going to be competing for,
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you know, at, you know, Abu Dhabi at ADCC.
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They're, they're, they're just not thinking that way.
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It's just, hey, everybody wants to have a good time and move around a little bit.
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And I invite guys, and they just, they never even think to show up.
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And it's all the excuses that you normally get from someone like that.
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But at the end of the day, they think it's going to be too hard.
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And just that thought alone keeps them from walking in the door for the first time.
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So a quick story about a guy in my sentence,
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when he came in, uh, is, I'll leave his name out, but he came in,
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and visited last week and we started talking about, you know, jujitsu,
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we started talking about our Sunday night group, our foxhole group.
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And this guy said, all right, I'm going to be there.
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And this guy is very out of shape.
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And, you know, this is a guy that admittedly, he's like, hey, I haven't worked out or
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I haven't done anything in a year.
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And, and it showed.
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And this is a guy that, you know, really is, was going to struggle that first night.
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But before he even got in there, I said, hey, man,
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the first night isn't that hard.
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It's way harder showing up the next week.
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That, that's when it's hard.
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But if you can show up that third week in a row, you're in, you're in.
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Because that first night it's terrible. You were going to be so sore that week,
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you can't even fathom how bad it's going to be for you, right?
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But then you show up for week two.
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And, and that's going to be bad again.
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But if you hit that third week in a row, you're in.
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So for those of you guys that are on the precipice, you know,
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you've heard Jocko talk about it and you've heard Joe Rogan talk about and you've heard,
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you know, it talked about on, you know, you're watching UFC or Bellator or one championship,
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or you've heard me talk about it and you're like, man, I really want to try this.
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And I just don't really know what's it going to be like, make the move and do it.
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Almost every single person listening to this has a jujitsu academy within 30 minutes of their
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house within 30 minutes where you're listening to this right now.
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And it may not be a world class facility, right?
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We don't all live in San Diego or Rio de Janeiro, you know, that's just not realistic.
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But I got an amazing school here in central Oklahoma.
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And we got a bunch of dudes that have long jujitsu pedigrees and judo pedigrees and wrestling
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pedigrees. And we've got a nice little gathering of some real killers at my school.
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And it's awesome. Go and try it, guys.
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I'm telling you, it's one of those things you may not, it may not run your life.
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You may not become obsessed with it, but it will 100% make you better.
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And I got to go ahead and wrap up this podcast.
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Why? Because I got to go train you Jitsu.
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All right, guys, before we let you go, we are going to do a quick resilience boost.
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As you know, by now, we are a men's ministry and our mission is cultivating mainly resilience.
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Specifically, we do that by providing you content that helps you forge spiritual
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mental and physical toughness. So for today, I got three doses of jocko for you.
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So we got some jocko willing videos, but these are all videos where he's talking about jujitsu.
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Okay. So the first one is him giving kind of generic jujitsu advice to people that are like,
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hey, how do you change through injuries and how do you deal with the ego and when should you go
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hard, especially in training with your with your teammates? The next video is just basically how
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to get better at jujitsu. So this is for people that have maybe done this for a while. But the
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last one is good for you people that are right on the precipice, right? You're just thinking about
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doing this or maybe you're a week or two or a month or two into your jujitsu journey.
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This is a video called overcoming frustrations when starting jujitsu. So jocko willing has been
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a black belt for, you know, I don't know, 10, 20 years at this point, like the guy knows about
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what it's like. He's a little bit extended away and removed from the beginning days of jujitsu,
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but he's at a gym where there's guys that are just starting all the time. So I think those
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will be great assets for you guys to watch. All right, guys, thanks so much for listening to this
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