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This is on Dawn to the Life of Man's podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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Our guys, like I told you, as I've reminded you on a lot of our recent podcasts is that I took a
1:27
kind of a break from podcasting because I got so far ahead so that we could take care of mama
1:31
and baby. But in addition to a lot of things that have been going on in the country, you know,
1:35
namely, I did that three-part series on Race in America, which by the way, thank you guys so much
1:39
for all the positive feedback on that. That's one of those things whenever you take a risk
1:42
like that. You're not really sure how it's going to be taken, but I've been very, very pleased
1:45
with the feedback that we received about that podcast and the three podcasts that are in that series.
1:49
But another thing that we really haven't talked about in a while is COVID-19
1:53
and that is the, you know, seemingly the number one story of the year, even though it might end up
1:58
being all this unrest that's kind of come off of the killing of the George Floyd in Minneapolis.
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But there's been a lot of things that have changed with COVID-19 and there was a stretch there where
2:08
in and maybe that's still the way you're feeling right now, but it seems like things were changing
2:11
daily where we were supposed to do this and then we weren't supposed to do this. But the thing is,
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is the mainstream media kind of took a break from talking about COVID-19 because they needed to
2:19
explain to us exactly how racist we all were in our hearts. So they had to take a little break. But
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now most of the stuff is getting more into the election and more into COVID-19 things that may
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look bad for Donald Trump or bad for the country, whatever situation is. But when I realized that
2:35
we hadn't talked about it in a while, I kind of went back because I knew I did an entire episode
2:38
on it, but I didn't know exactly when it was. I went back to my notes. Episode 127 of this podcast
2:44
was called what COVID-19 is doing to us. That episode was released five months ago.
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And guys, it just seems crazy how long it's been that we've been dealing with this COVID-19 stuff.
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Because I mean, I remember hearing about it at the very, very tail end of 2019. And here we are
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sitting here in August of 2020. And this isn't going away. It just keeps redefining our lives.
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But if you haven't listened to episode 127, I would highly encourage you to go back and listen to that.
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But I'll kind of give you a brief synopsis here. And if you want more than meat, potatoes, or more
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detail, rather, you can go and go and listen to that podcast. But I talked about some of the obvious
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things that COVID-19 is doing to us. And so it's obviously affecting our health. It's affecting the
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health of friends and family of ours. Some people have lost their jobs. They've lost money. They've
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lost their ability to go to church. Some still don't have that ability. You know, it's affected
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social lives, your sense of community, entertainment, travel, really all of those things. Those are
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the obvious things that COVID-19 is doing to us. But then I got into the deeper level things,
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right? So the deeper level things are, you know, basically the mainstream media is really just
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out to get Trump. I went into a lot of detail there about why I feel that way. It also reveals
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how potentially dangerous it is for us to be fat and out of shape and how much a situation like
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this shows you when you're not in good health, how this could be, you know, basically coming for you.
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It also showed us how unprepared many of us are. We're not really prepped. We don't have food for
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more than two or three days. It showed pain points in our households because a lot of people weren't
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really spending a lot of time with their families. And then all of a sudden you're quarantined with
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your families and that kind of sort of revealed some of those pain points. Also, it's some of the
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deeper level things that revealed our paranoia, our paranoia about, Oh gosh, we can't like walk
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around the corner because coronavirus is going to get us or whatever. Then we also looked at how
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dependent we are on escapes like sports and movies and concerts and we'll spend some more time on
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that today. But a lot of you guys are kind of worshiping at the altar of those things. You know,
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that most of us also are utilitarian. That's what it revealed about us that, you know, used to,
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it's like, Hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, but not in not in the sense of this.
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We're kind of looking at this as to what can be the best for everybody. And then it looked,
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made us look at how scared we are at our core that a lot of us are just super, super fearful people.
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And it doesn't take much for us to become insanely fearful and for it to basically crowd every other
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thing in our life out. And then we talked about how to cope. I talked about spiritually, you need to
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do your quiet time mentally, you need to feed your mind. You don't just watch Netflix, read books,
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do some other things, physically exercise. If any of you guys that came out of quarantine
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fatter, you did it wrong. I mean, my goodness, guys, you had so much free time, just the commute
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that you didn't have to have going to and from work. That could have been a lot of time you spent
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working on your body. All you need is the body and mother earth and you can get a lot of things done.
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And then we also talked about how we're super connected. So you should just connect with people,
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stay with zoom call, stay with the Google Hangouts or whatever you're doing to hang out with people,
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and also to help while while you can or help where you can. Those are the ways that we kind of looked
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at how to cope with COVID-19. But again, that was five months ago, a lot of things have changed,
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a lot of things haven't. And so we're going to kind of go through that today, but a little
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small public service announcement before I get into the outline of what we're going to be going
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into today. And it's this, we really don't know Jack about this virus. And I know that's a little
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bit hyperbolic, but we don't really. There's a lot of rumors, there's a lot of studies, there's
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well, this guy said this study was right. And this person said this study is right, but they're
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making two opposite points. There's a lot of stuff like that going on right now. And we really
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don't know much. You know, there's new reports saying that, you know, people that have had coronavirus
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are having damage inside of their internal organs, right? It's residual damage. Well, is that damage
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in the sense that these are people that that's going to turn into cancer someday? Is this damage
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like, you know, getting poked in the arm, you're damaged for a little bit, but your tissue will
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kind of renew itself and recover from that and heal that we don't really know. There's so much
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not to know. So I'm just going to tell you what today's podcast is not going to be today's podcast
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is not going to be a deep dive into the statistics. And you know, we're going to look at this and
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we're going to see how it relates to some obscure stat from this country in some study that was done
6:45
over here. That's not what we're going to do today. I'm not an epidemiologist. I'm not even a
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statistical guy for the most part. I don't really dig into those types of things. I'm not a spreadsheet
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guy. That's not what today's episode is going to be. What today's episode is going to be.
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And so I'm going to give you a rundown of random thoughts because I've been keeping notes on my
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phone just like I did with the race in America stuff is every time I got a thought about COVID-19
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or there was a point that I heard that I was like, okay, that's a pretty good point. I would just
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make a note in my phone. And that's been months now. That's three or four months worth of notes.
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So I got a bunch of random thoughts I'd like to get out there to you, including my thoughts
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on what schools should do this fall concerning kids, maybe your kids. And then the next section
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is going to be a section called to the people that say dot, dot, dot. So I'm going to show you
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how to answer common declaratives that are being made in society right now. I'm going to show you
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how to answer those with questions. And these are important questions that you need to ask,
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especially if you're getting into a debate or a discussion, a cordial discussion with somebody
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about the issue of COVID-19. And then also I'm going to get into really the namesake for this
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podcast today, which is what your thoughts on COVID-19 say about you. Because depending upon
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which side the finch you are on with this issue, it really does communicate something about you
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at a core level. And so we're certainly going to get into that. And then I'm going to make one final
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point. And you definitely want to stick around with that because I'm going to be smashing some
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people on that one. But in terms of today, as of the recording of this podcast in the United States,
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there have been around 165,000 deaths caused by COVID-19, if you believe the stats. And there
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was about 5.2 million cases, right? So if you care about cases, which you shouldn't, which we'll
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talk about more in just a second, though that's kind of what we're seeing. But in terms of worldwide,
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there have been almost 750,000 deaths on the three quarters of a million deaths from COVID-19
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in around just over 20 million cases worldwide. So let's go ahead and launch in
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to the random thoughts because I got a lot to say on this. So the first random thought is this,
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I could care less about the number of positive cases. And you shouldn't care less either.
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Because here's the thing, guys, is if you show that you have a lot of cases, but your death rate
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continues to go down, that's a good thing. Because the thing about it is, is when you have so much
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testing, so let's just talk about the United States of America. We test more people, I believe,
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per capita than any other country in the world. So when people are like, Oh my gosh,
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look at the amount of cases the United States has, well, there are a lot of countries around
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the world that if they had the testing capacity that we did and the efficiency that we do,
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they would have a higher number of cases as well. And here's the thing is after the initial lockdown
9:17
that we experienced here in the United States, of course cases were going to go up as people
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were leaving their houses. Of course it was going to happen that way. Of course cases are going to
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go up when people start to go back to work when they start interacting with their friends again.
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But the thing about it was is the people that were on lockdown were people that were my age.
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Early 30s, kids that were in their 20s, maybe 40s. I mean, people that aren't really affected by
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this virus were the ones that were going out and they were contracting the virus and it was having
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little to no effect on them. Again, you have an almost 100% chance of surviving getting COVID-19.
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If you don't have some sort of previous, you know, pre-existing condition that is
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severe, right? So like a cancer or diabetes or if you're severely overweight or you smoke,
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you have long issues. If you don't have any of those things, if you're just a regular guy or gal and
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you're healthy, this isn't going to kill you statistically speaking. It's just not going to do
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that. And so when people start talking about the skyrocketing case numbers in the United States,
10:13
as compared to the beginning of the pandemic, the other big difference we have is we have
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ubiquitous testing. Because I remember in February, March, did you guys take a COVID-19 test?
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I mean, I didn't know very many people that took one. Basically, you took one if you thought you had
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it and you went to the hospital and they gave you the test. Now you can get them just about anywhere.
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There are people. There are places where you are being tested for COVID-19 before you can come
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into work. There's a different type of test now that gives you results almost immediately, right?
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So there are some places that I will acknowledge that, you know, it's taking upwards of a week to
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get your results for a positive test, which is kind of silly. But again, the number of tests
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don't matter. The number that matters is the death rate and team be more specific, the death
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rate per million. Because that's when we can start looking at in a federal system like the United
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States, we can look at different states and see who's performing well and who's not performing well
11:05
because you can't just go on the total numbers. Same thing with countries, right? Because some
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people's death rates are significantly higher, even though their numbers look smaller than a
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country like the United States. Okay. So again, I could care less about the number of positive
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cases. I care about the death rate. I care about deaths. That's the important stat that we need
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to be focusing on. The next random thought is just the, I guess it's more of an observation
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that pro sports is back kind of, right? I'm a big baseball guy. I mean, they can pretty much
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suck it with all the black lives matter stuff they did during opening weekend. But that's back.
11:35
But they're not playing in a bubble. So my beloved St. Louis Cardinals, they have played
11:39
as of today, five games this season. The Cubs have more than twice as many wins as the Cardinals
11:44
have played games. So that hurts me to the core of my being. But it's just one of those things
11:49
where one guy on the team gets COVID-19 and then they pass it around. The interesting thing about
11:53
it is they're treating this like this is a dissonance for these players. My favorite baseball
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player on the planet, yada or Molina tested positive for COVID-19. But he's not on the crosshairs of
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this because he's a professional athlete and he's a young person. I mean, he's in his late 30s. So he's
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old for baseball, certainly old to be a catcher. But these are not people that are going to die
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from COVID-19, right? And they're playing without crowds and they're pumping in crowd noise. And
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it's kind of unique, but kind of weird. Then he got the NBA, which I don't know who anybody
12:18
that's watching the NBA right now, because basically right now you have the ridiculous
12:22
jerseys where they have no justice, no peace is throwing up an alley oop to, you know, basically
12:27
Black Lives Matter or whatever. It's just almost impossible to watch with all the posturing
12:32
and Black Lives Matter in blazing, you know, the name of a Marxist organization. And if you
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missed my race in America three part series that I've already mentioned, go back and I'll
12:40
explain why that happens. But it's just kind of weird seeing professional sports be quote unquote
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back. But to be in this bubble format, you got guys hitting walk off home runs and major league
12:50
baseball and all their teammates are like separated from them. They're pretending to do high fives.
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It's just kind of silly. And that really dovetails nicely in the next round of thought, which is about
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all this college football drama. So literally right before I started this podcast, the Big East
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joined in with the big, the big 10 and the Pac 12 as what they're saying post pwning fall football
13:09
and fall sports. But really, they're just talking about football. And so three major conferences are
13:13
saying that we're not playing football this fall. But then contrastingly, you have other
13:17
conferences like the Big 12, the SEC, the ACC, which seem rather intent on getting the fall sports
13:23
in, if not just football, which obviously one of the only sports that's the thing about college
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sports that people don't realize is very few teams are revenue generating. So let's take,
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you know, the biggest school here in my state, Oklahoma University, the University of Oklahoma,
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sorry if any of you went to OU that I just said it wrong, whatever. But the thing about it,
13:43
that school is they don't make money off the men's gymnastics program. They don't make money off of
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softball. They don't make money off. I think they have a diving team. They don't make any
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money off of those things. Those things are sucks on the budget for the university. Pretty much the
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only sport that makes money is the football program. And that is pretty much across the board true.
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You know, Duke basketball makes money. OSU wrestling makes money. There's little pockets of sports
14:07
here and there, but they don't really make a lot of money. So the interesting calculus for the big
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10 and the pack 12 and the big East is that they're getting rid of their biggest money maker. And
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that's mainly football. Big East is a little bit more of a basketball conference, but you typically
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make more money off of football. It's just weird to me. But the thing about it is, is at least,
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you know, like the big 10, they came out and they presented all of their data explaining why they
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were going to do that. Oh, oh wait, no, they didn't do that. Well, at least they came out and they
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cited specific studies that said if their teams were forced to play that they would they would
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get this virus and oh, they didn't do that either. Right. The thing that is so ridiculous about this
14:49
is these college presidents who many of them have gone nameless as of right now will certainly
14:55
find their names later. They're saying they want to cancel the season. They say they want to cancel
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it for the players. They want to cancel it for the fans all those different things. But they're
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not citing why they're making this vague statement that, well gosh, if you know, the NBA's got to
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be in a bubble and eventually baseball's having all these problems and all these things. How could
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we possibly do that for a college football program? But what they're neglecting to realize,
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or they're doing it, you know, dishonestly, is these are 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 year old freak
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beast human beings. There are. Okay. If you're a college student, you're more likely to be murdered.
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You're more likely to die in a car accident to overdose to drink yourself to death. Right. You're
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more likely to die from those things than you are from COVID-19. So why exactly do we need to
15:45
cancel football season and Trevor Lawrence? The, you know, maybe Heisman Heisman trophy winning
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quarterback for Clemson. He came out and had a very nice tweet thread where he was basically
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talking about the fact it's like, guys, you're going to cancel the season. Where do you think
15:57
these kids are going to go? They're going to go back to their homes, hometowns, and they're not
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going to go back with masks on and they're not going to socially distance. You can watch these
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kids because these programs have, you know, 70, 80 kids that are on a team or something like that.
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You can watch these kids closely if you keep them engaged in the program and keep them on campus.
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But here's the other thing that I find very interesting about all this college football stuff
16:18
is the big 10. They were the first ones to come out and the pack 12 joined in and now the big
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ace is joined in in terms of canceling. But none of these, you know, bastions of strength and foresight
16:30
have the nuts to cancel winter and spring sports. And if they really believed that this was the
16:36
big killer that they got to protect themselves from liability, they need to go ahead and cancel
16:42
those sports too. Because fundamentally, what will change by the winter time about the virus?
16:50
Well, what's going to be different? Because I can guarantee you we won't have a vaccine
16:54
that's widely available that we know that works by then.
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So go ahead and cancel basketball, university presidents and chancellors. Go ahead and cancel
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wrestling. You know, and let's go ahead and cancel the spring sports, get rid of softball,
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no more track and field, no more baseball. Because next spring, nothing's going to be different.
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The only thing that's going to be different about this winter is in addition to the normal flu,
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we're going to have COVID-19 to deal with. So it is absolutely asinine that these people are
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canceling these seasons. And yes, you might be like, Oh, you sound like a big college football
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fan. Yeah, I like college football, but I don't live and die with any particular team. I just
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like it being on on Saturdays. It's a lot of fun to watch, especially with buddies, right?
17:33
But it just doesn't make any sense. These people are basically tucking tail. They're not giving
17:37
their explanation. And you know what, I would just hope that they would just be honest. So if the,
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you know, Chancellor of Ohio State University came out and said, you know what, the reason that we
17:45
were okay with canceling football is because we normally have 100,000 people that show up at every
17:50
single home game. Every single one of those people's, you know, they pay for tickets. They buy merch.
17:55
They eat inside the stadium. They drink. They, they bring a bunch of money into the community by
18:00
staying in hotels and, you know, buying beer and buying stuff everywhere else. And you know,
18:05
we just don't want to miss out on that money. And so we're just going to hit the pause button
18:08
because, you know, we don't want to play these games and go through all the expense of playing
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the games and then not have the fans that give us all the revenue that we actually care about.
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I would be down with that. Just say what you mean, but it's just crazy to me that these dorks
18:21
can't just like say, yeah, this isn't that big of a deal. These kids have worked way too hard.
18:25
We're going to go ahead and let them play. So there's my diet drive about college football.
18:28
Next random thought is that the mainstream media is just absolutely gross and dishonest.
18:33
Just watching this, you know, watching the news in 2020, watching the new cycle should be a master
18:37
class on how not to handle yourself as a mainstream media or entity or a journalist.
18:44
Because the thing is, is the mainstream media, especially the people that hate Trump, they know
18:47
that coronavirus is a losing issue for Trump and they're going to hang their hot their hats on every
18:52
bad anecdote and news story and they're not going to report anything positive about death rates or
18:57
about reopening or about what's going on in Sweden. They're just not going to do that. But what they
19:01
will do is they will prop up governors from blue states, like the governors of New York and New
19:06
Jersey, while at the same time burying governors of red states like in Florida and Texas, right?
19:11
They'll hold these people up. It's like, oh, man, governor Cuomo. This is a guy who's probably
19:16
handled coronavirus and the COVID-19 pandemic worse than any other governor in the United States.
19:21
And he's being heralded as this, this bastion of tremendous, I said bastion
19:26
of foresight already. But is this guy that can basically tell the future and look how good he did,
19:30
how great of a leader and oh, he's great when he does his press conferences and all that. But
19:33
the thing about it is, is he has pretty sure New York has the worst death rate per million
19:38
population in the entire country and one of the worst in the world. New Jersey's actually,
19:43
I think New Jersey is a little bit higher than that. But you don't ever hear that on the news.
19:47
You just hear about how great these guys are. But then a report came out this week. I'm not
19:51
sure if it's been substantiated yet. But obviously governor Cuomo, because of his ridiculous policies
19:56
pertaining to nursing homes, basically his his policy for weeks and weeks and weeks at the beginning
20:01
of the pandemic was that if an elderly person that lived in a nursing home, tested positive for
20:06
coronavirus for COVID-19, that they had to go back to the nursing home. So just think about that.
20:12
You're inviting the Fox into the, the hen house, right? This is a person that is incredibly sick
20:16
with something that's incredibly deadly to that population. But that was his policy. They got to
20:21
go back to the nursing home, right? We got to keep the hospital beds clear for other people that need
20:25
to come in. And that led to thousands of people dying in New York. And the, the report that came
20:30
out this week is that there were a lot of deaths that went misreported that were actually nursing
20:37
home deaths. So basically what was happening is what governor Cuomo mandated or whatever the
20:41
happen, you know, whatever allegedly happened is that if someone didn't die on the grounds of
20:46
the nursing home, it was not counted as as a nursing home death. So he said that, you know,
20:51
grandma had to go back into the nursing home. She gets 10 other people sick. But half of those
20:56
people died either on the way to the hospital or once they got to the hospital, they weren't
21:00
considered nursing home deaths. And so don't believe the death statistics that you're seeing
21:06
just outright, guys, you should have a little bit more of kind of an eye to look and see what's going
21:11
on in those situations because it's not always what you think. But here's the funny thing about
21:14
it. It isn't so interesting that as soon as the death stats started to fall off a cliff, right?
21:20
As soon as we flatten the curve and the deaths started to take a nose dive and the availability
21:26
of testing shot through the roof, that the media only started focusing almost entirely on positive
21:32
cases. When's the last time you heard any of the mainstream media people that you may listen to
21:39
or hear your friends listen to? Mention the death rate. They'll mention the death number,
21:43
right? We're over 150,000 dead in the United States. No one's a fan of that. No one's happy
21:47
about that. But they're not talking about the death rates. They're just talking about cases
21:52
and total number of deaths. It's because they're trying to be dishonest and trying to mislead you
21:56
as to this thing is bad. It was handled. It was bungled by the Trump administration. Well,
21:59
I got news for you. It was bungled by the entire planet except for maybe Sweden. Sweden said, no,
22:04
we're not locking down. If you're elderly, if you're sick, if you're not well, stay home,
22:08
everybody else get your butts back to work. And it's possible that they've reached herd immunity
22:14
already. Now they may have a second wave of this. It could end up they could end up being the
22:18
biggest losers on this, but it looks like they're going to be the winners in this. So the mainstream
22:21
media just has not been honest about this stuff. Another random thought here is the remedy for
22:25
COVID-19 is apparently participating in a Black Lives Matter protester riot. That's pretty interesting
22:31
because these cases in the United States started to spike after a lot of the Black Lives Matter
22:38
matter rallies, which is weird in some of those same doctors and nurses that were coming out saying,
22:45
please don't, you know, make sure you wear a mask and please don't go out. Please socially
22:49
distance because, you know, we're, we're in danger and you're endangering everyone else around you.
22:53
Some of the same people came out and said, well, that's true unless you go to a Black Lives Matter
22:58
protest because racism is some sort of existential threat. That is it's okay to walk with thousands,
23:05
if not tens of thousands of other people and scream about the evils of policing in the United
23:09
States. But that's not spreading coronavirus, right? The virus knows how woke you are. So it's
23:16
not going to infect you, right? But if you went to a Tea Party rally or if you went to a Trump rally
23:22
or something like that, then it's coming for you, right? So that's interesting. So for any of you
23:26
guys that are really, really concerned about this, just get yourself an Antifa mask, you know, go
23:30
push over a statue and say how much you think Black Lives Matter and how you think that makes
23:34
you virtuous. And guess what? You won't get sick. Next thought here is if Donald Trump doesn't
23:41
do a federal mask mandate, people will say that he's anti science. That's what they're saying right
23:46
now. But some of those same people are saying things like if Trump does a federal mask mandate,
23:52
then he's a fascist. This is one of those super common moments where we can see that Trump,
23:58
and again, I'm not a huge Trump fan, but he's damned if he doesn't, he's damned if he doesn't,
24:02
right? Because a federal mask mandate, which is unconstitutional, you know, if he says that's a
24:07
bad idea, it's like, Oh, we're just anti science, you're not paying attention to science. But if he
24:10
does that, then he's a fascist and he's everything that you ever thought he was and he's a Nazi and
24:13
he's all these things. It's like, you literally can't have it both ways. Another random thought is this
24:17
is that testing isn't completely useless, but it almost is. Now, again, that's another hyperbolic
24:26
statement. But let me kind of tease that out. So what I'm basically saying is I'm talking about
24:30
this for the majority of people, not for those that are in a hospital facility because they think
24:34
they have coronavirus. But here's the thing. I got tested for coronavirus because I had to go to
24:38
the doctor for a throat problem. And they needed to test me two days before I came in, find no
24:42
big deal, did the kind of no swap thing, whatever, came back negative. And I'm like, okay, that's
24:46
great. But I could literally have contracted COVID-19 the minute after I pulled out of the parking lot
24:55
after my COVID-19 test. So these people that get this COVID-19 test and they come back negative
25:01
and they're so excited and they kind of look at this as this false sense of security that oh,
25:05
I've I tested a couple of months ago and I was negative. So I'm good. Guys, you literally need to
25:10
be testing pretty much like every few hours. Like if you're honestly concerned about it,
25:15
you need to be testing that often. Because just because you tested negative before you went into
25:20
the hospital doesn't mean you're fine now. This seems obvious, but I just don't see anybody saying
25:25
it. So I figured I'd go and say it. Next random thought here is it says something about us as a
25:29
society when prisoners are released from prison because of fear of COVID-19 spread and outbreak.
25:36
But we arrest business owners for opening their businesses. You guys are probably seeing, I can't
25:41
remember the name of the gym or the name of the guy, but it's this gym in New Jersey that they
25:44
literally arrested the guys that run the gym and now they're finding them, you know, $15,000 a day
25:49
if they operate their gym, a gym, by the way, which is, you know, they're asking their people
25:54
to wear masks and no one in their gym has gotten infected with COVID-19. And these are people that
25:58
are being arrested and they're being fined because they're trying to run their business and feed
26:02
themselves and their families. But we got rapists and drug dealers and people that are being let out
26:07
because they might get COVID-19 in jail and we don't want that to spread. That's kind of interesting.
26:13
Now the random thought is it's amazing. Absolutely amazing. How many hospitals and medical facilities
26:19
went along with the government declaring that parts of their operations were essential and other parts
26:24
were not because a lot of these hospitals just bought hook line and sinker like, oh, we can't have
26:31
people come in because they sprained their ankle. You know, if people want to come in for their
26:35
cancer treatments, we'll make that optional, right? The hospitals just went right along with this
26:39
and it's just interesting. But you know who never shut down? This is interesting. Medical facilities
26:45
that never shut down abortion facilities. Does anyone know of the abortion mill in their town or
26:51
their state that shut down because of COVID-19? Because guess what? If a woman had to take their
26:56
baby to term, even though they wanted to kill it, that would just be a gosh, that would just be an
27:01
injustice that I can't even imagine how bad of an injustice that would be, right? Isn't that funny?
27:06
And also another random thought, it's amazing how many businesses and business owners went along
27:11
with the government declaration that their business or their building was deemed essential
27:17
or inessential, non-essential rather. It's amazing. These are business owners and that is the only
27:23
way that they're able to make a living and the government sells says, well, you're not essential,
27:27
but your neighbor is essential so they can operate. Says who? The government? That's not the role of
27:33
government to tell you whether or not you can make a living. But you know, business owners and
27:38
businesses just kind of went along with it. And this really goes into the next thing, which it's
27:43
amazing how many pastors and men of God are currently still going along with the government
27:50
declaration that their church is non-essential and a vector for the transmission of this virus,
27:56
right? I want you guys to remember, do you remember the arguments that were used to defend liquor
28:01
stores staying open? You know, the argument was, you know, coming from these substance abuse
28:06
specialists that they're just like, look, when somebody has, you know, a dependence on alcohol
28:10
and then all of a sudden alcohol is taken away, it could lead to some really, really bad medical
28:14
issues, bad mental issues, you know, it could have, you know, outsized effects on family members and,
28:19
you know, spousal abuse and child abuse and all that. So we really should leave liquor stores open
28:24
and they made the same arguments for medical marijuana facilities, right? Why can't those same
28:29
arguments be made for churches and ministries? Because aren't there people all over the country
28:34
that are made well that are made better that are healthier mentally, you know, and spiritually,
28:39
because churches are open? No, no, no, no. These pastors are just basically cowtowing
28:46
to their local municipalities and local government governments by saying, sure, sure,
28:50
we'll stay closed or, you know what, we'll only let five people in the door to worship, right?
28:55
That's pretty amazing to watch. Another random thought is I'm pretty much super enjoying the
29:00
fight between maskers and anti-maskers, right? It's the new us versus them, it's the new virtue
29:06
versus non virtue and all, gosh, just go to Twitter and look for anti-masker people. These are
29:12
people that are refusing to wear a mask and just the snowflakeery of people losing their minds
29:17
around these people demanding that they put a mask on and screaming at them and like throwing
29:22
things and throwing little fits. It's actually pretty fun to watch. We'll get into kind of whether
29:26
or not I think masker effective later, but we'll kind of move on. Another random thought, many people
29:30
claim to be libertarians. That's kind of the new favorite thing. It's like, oh, I watched Parks
29:34
and Rec and I liked around Swanson, so I'm a libertarian. But during all this COVID-19 craziness,
29:39
is it was revealed that most of these people are way more compliant than they ever even believe
29:46
possible with government mandates? Because libertarians are like, hey, leave me alone and I'm
29:50
gonna do whatever I want. Like, that's a big libertarian thing. But I think there's a lot of
29:53
people that thought they were libertarians that are just like, yeah, I'll pretty much do whatever
29:56
the government tells me because I'm scared. Another random thought is many people are project,
30:01
projecting their fears and insecurities onto other people in the greater populace.
30:06
And that doesn't mean we should listen to them. Because here's the thing guys is if you were
30:11
terrified about being outside and being around people, then don't go outside. Don't be around
30:18
people. But you can't in turn tell me to not go outside and not be around people because you're
30:25
scared. It's kind of what we're seeing in the schools right now, which we'll talk about more
30:28
here in just a second. Another thing here is, I was kind of thinking about this. This might be a
30:32
dumb thought, but I'm not quite sure that mask mandates actually cause more people to wear masks.
30:37
And so I know that sounds a little crazy, but here's the thing. The people that are terrified
30:43
of this virus or are, you know, in the crosshairs of this virus because of their health,
30:47
they were going to wear masks anyway, regardless of any mandate from any politician or city.
30:52
But there's a sizable segment of the population that when you tell them to do something,
30:59
like mandate that they do something, you are severely limiting your chances of them actually doing that.
31:04
So I feel like the government and some of these mandates and some of these municipalities have
31:09
made have created more anti-maskers because most people are compliant. They'll just kind of go
31:14
along with it. But other people are like, you can't tell me what to do. So I'm not sure the mask
31:19
mandates actually have the outcome that people desire. But yeah, it is what it is. Few more
31:23
random thoughts here. One positive that I'm seeing through all this because it's all been pretty
31:27
negative so far is that we really learn that when the chips are down, that Americans are still super
31:32
resourceful and we can get crap done. I mean, I was just, you know, super impressed by the number
31:37
of factories that were able to reverse engineer their processes to produce, you know, PPE and masks
31:43
and gloves and, you know, whiskey distilleries that are making hand sanitizer. The ingenuity that
31:48
we've seen, the medical advancements that we've seen, the speed with which we're even getting close
31:52
to a vaccine, it's been pretty awesome. Another random thought is China is still to blame for this.
31:58
I don't know if you guys need to be reminded of this, but this is the Chinese virus that came from
32:02
Wuhan. But everyone in the world seems too afraid to call them out, including Trump. So any of you
32:07
Trump, people are like, Oh, Trump called him out. He's gone pretty soft on China. When's the last time
32:11
you heard Trump say something negative, like really, really biting a negative about China because
32:15
at the very, at the very best, they bungled something in a laboratory or they bungled
32:22
basically the spread of this. And it's causing, you know, calls over a million deaths worldwide.
32:26
That's China's fault. Last one here before we get into the next section, it's this,
32:30
the World Health Organization, right? They now say that asymptomatic transmission is incredibly
32:36
rare, right? So you walk in, you to a place you feel good. And you start breathing on people,
32:42
you start singing, you start doing whatever, you don't know that you're sick. That asymptomatic
32:46
spread like that is incredibly rare. Also, the Centers for Disease Control, the CDC says that it's
32:51
it pretty much can't live on surfaces. That was one of the big things initially that, you know,
32:55
if this could live on plastic for X amount of time, live on wood for X amount of time.
32:59
But here's the deal, asymptomatic spread and COVID-19 living on surfaces, both were the entire point
33:07
to shut everything down. Those were the two main points as to why we shut down the entire planet.
33:14
So I just got to ask you, why are we listening to the same people that said we need to shut down
33:22
everything in order to keep people alive just for them to a few weeks or a few months later say,
33:27
actually, that wasn't the case. That's not the case. Oopsie. You know, we just basically deleted
33:33
trillions of dollars from the global economy, but we're sorry. Why are we still listening to these
33:39
people? Like, why are we trusting their judgment and what they have to say? I find it supremely
33:45
interesting that people are looking at these organizations and quoting them, but you know,
33:49
that's kind of the world we live in now. So those are the random thoughts just how to get those out
33:53
there. But now let's get into some more practical side, the practical side things. And it's this
33:56
section is called to the people that say, so we're going to go through a bunch of statements.
34:00
If they say this, you say this. So to the people that say, the United States is handling this,
34:06
the worst, because we have more cases than anywhere else in the world. You should ask that person this.
34:13
Are you aware that we test more people per capita than anywhere else in the world?
34:19
Another thing you could ask him is this, do you believe the numbers being reported by China?
34:24
Because if you honestly believe that the United States is handling this,
34:30
the worst, then basically what you're saying is you're a big fan of Chinese propaganda,
34:35
because the amount of deaths that they are hiding and the amount of positive cases
34:40
and the spread that they're experiencing as a country, there's no way it's anywhere close to
34:45
what they're actually telling people. And if you look at a top 10 list and you see that China is
34:51
not on it or something like that. And if you believe that, I got a bridge in Brooklyn, I can
34:54
sell you. So the next thing is to the people that say, I've heard that the ICUs and hospitals are
35:00
being overrun. They're at 100% capacity, right? You should ask people this. Did you know that ICUs
35:08
reach capacity multiple times throughout the year? And it's really not that big of a deal.
35:14
I mean, that sounds like an insensitive thing to say, but here's the thing is when the ICUs
35:19
start getting closer to capacity, do you know what they do? They bring in more beds. They bring
35:26
in more staff. When you talk to somebody that's in the hospital industry, that's not that big a deal.
35:31
I mean, people are treating that like people are dying in the hallways.
35:36
And I'm currently not aware of a single patient in the United States of America that has died
35:42
because they waited too long in the waiting room or for an ICU bed or for a ventilator.
35:47
Like, is there one case of that? So these people that are freaking out about the ICUs being overrun,
35:54
they're not being overrun. Like these hospitals are not being overrun with these cases. I even
35:59
hear people locally hear that work in the medical field. They're like, Oh my gosh, the ICU is full
36:03
for COVID. It's also full like five or six other times a year. The ICUs are usually for
36:09
something like the flu. So it's just really not as big of a deal as people are making out to be.
36:13
So another thing is if you hear someone say this, let's just see how things look here in a couple
36:19
of months to the people that say, Hey, let's just see how things look in a couple of months and we'll
36:23
figure that out. The thing you should ask them is what exactly will be different about the virus
36:29
in a couple of months. So there's a guy in our crew in our foxhole that I respect a lot. So I
36:35
won't use his name, but we were kind of deciding like what we were going to do. Like we were doing
36:38
these outside workouts in the early days of COVID, because we didn't really know what to do. And we,
36:42
you know, we thought that this was way deadlier than it was. So we're working out outside. We're
36:46
socially distancing. And then we're talking about going back and training at the forge and doing
36:49
jiu-jitsu. And one of the guys who's a really, really smart guy, he said a really, really dumb
36:53
thing. He said, well, you know what, let's just see how things look here in a couple of months.
36:58
And I just had to chime in and just say what I said, what exactly will be different about the
37:03
virus in a couple of months? Because from the looks of it is that, you know, COVID-19 is not going away
37:09
in a couple of months. You know, we're not going to get a vaccine in a couple of months.
37:13
So the only thing that will potentially be different here in a couple of months will be your
37:18
comfortability with being outside and being around people, right? It's just your feelings that will
37:23
be different. And so these people that are just kind of in this constant state of let's just wait
37:28
and see, you got to ask them like, what exactly do you mean? Like wait and see what? Like,
37:35
it's just not really realistic, right? The next thing that you'll hear people say is just trust the
37:41
data. Gosh darn it, just trust the data. You should ask him this, whose data would you like me to trust
37:46
it? You know, which data do you believe is accurate? And this relates to the next one, which is just
37:53
trust the science. Don't be anti science. Wear your mask, trust the scientists, at which point
37:59
I would ask these people, which science are you referring to exactly? Because here's the thing,
38:05
I can find you a scientist that thinks lockdowns are appropriate and necessary and should be mandated.
38:11
And then I can bind you another scientist that says that lockdowns are completely useless.
38:15
So who exactly am I supposed to be listening to? The one that agrees with you?
38:23
I mean, who should I be listening to? And the funny thing about these trust the science people,
38:26
trust the data people, those people, it's so interesting that many of those same people that
38:31
think a biological male, for instance, can become a woman as long as that's how he feels on the inside.
38:38
Those are some of the same people that are screaming about people being anti science if they don't
38:42
wear a mask. Isn't that funny? I feel like that's pretty funny. The next thing that people might say
38:47
that you should really, you know, basically to the people that say something like this is just trust
38:52
the government. Just trust the government. They have our best interests at heart. Why would they
38:56
steer us wrong? You should ask this. Which government agency have you experienced being incredibly
39:01
efficient and effective? Because because I just got to tell you, the government has essentially been
39:07
wrong about just about everything so far. We need ventilators. And then a few months later,
39:12
it's like, Oh, ventilators might actually be bad. It's like telling your body that you're you're done
39:16
fighting. You know, this doesn't affect kids at all. And now it's like shut down the schools,
39:20
we can't go back to school. Mass don't matter. Oh, masks are the most important thing. You know,
39:25
COVID lives on services, except that it doesn't. I mean, we could go on and on. And these messages
39:30
are coming from the federal government. So why should we trust them? They can't get their own house
39:36
and order. Why should we let them dictate what happens in our house? The next thing is if someone
39:42
says this, let's just hurry up and get the vaccine so that we can get back to normal. You should ask
39:48
them this. Do you know the typical efficacy rate for most major vaccines? Because that person will
39:57
be mortified to find out that it's only about 50 or 60%. Vaccines are most of the major ones are
40:04
about 50 to 60% effective. It's not anywhere near 100. So if you're waiting on the vaccine before you
40:12
decide that you want to get back to normal life, you are fooling yourself. I mean, this virus is
40:17
constantly mutating. It's constantly changing. There's no the vaccine. Like there's no silver
40:23
bullet that's going to take care of this thing. And they're, oh, we're just going to get this
40:27
vaccine and we'll be back to normal. Well, here's the thing, guys, is you have to be really realistic
40:31
about what that means. What we're hearing right now is that at best, we're going to get the vaccine
40:36
by the end of this year by December of 2020. But then we see reports that in terms of the vaccine
40:41
being widely available, we're looking at the third or fourth quarter of 2021. So if you've shut down
40:48
your entire world, right, in your own little sphere, then you better be prepared to not come
40:55
back out into the sun until 2022. Because we're about to hit flu season here in a couple of months
41:00
here in the United States, the coronavirus, the COVID-19 vaccine is not going to be widely
41:06
available. It might be widely available by this time next year, maybe, but then we don't know how
41:11
effective it's going to be. We don't know what the data is going to be on that. It'll be interesting
41:15
to see how many people got the vaccine and then ended up getting coronavirus and dying COVID-19
41:20
and dying. I mean, that that's a very interesting thing to think about. So you're gonna have to think
41:24
if we don't know that the vaccine or which vaccine is going to work until maybe winter time of 2021,
41:30
well, now you're still in the flu, the flu season, right? And you're probably terrified of the flu
41:35
now. So we might see you spring 2022. I mean, you just got to get real if that's how you're going to
41:40
act. Next thing is if people say something like our top priority must be to prevent all COVID-19
41:47
deaths, you should ask them something like this. Are the deaths not caused by COVID-19 important too?
41:54
Because suicides all over the world are going through the roof. Homicides are going through the
42:04
roof. Now in the United States, there's a reason why homicide is going through the roof. And it's
42:07
because the Democrat politicians of all these leftist major cities are basically telling their
42:12
police officers that you suck, you're terrible, and we're cutting your funding. And then crime
42:16
and all these felonious crimes and murders and violent crimes are just skyrocketing. It's amazing
42:21
how that happens. But we also have people that aren't getting immunized. And then they're dying
42:26
of the diseases that they could have easily not died from if they've just been immunized.
42:31
There's a lot of people that aren't doing their cancer treatments. They're not doing chemo.
42:35
Or they stopped doing their chemo for months because they were scared to leave their house,
42:39
right? Even with a mask, even with a face shield, even with gloves, they were scared to leave their
42:43
house. And these are people that allowed their cancer to basically get to an uncontrollable level.
42:49
And those people died. So those people didn't die from COVID-19, but do those deaths matter?
42:54
I kind of feel like they do. And here's another thing. What if people say something like this?
43:00
We should keep everything locked down because I might get someone sick without knowing I'm
43:05
infected. You should ask them this. Is will you advocate for lockdowns every flu season as well?
43:12
I had another really good friend say, yeah, you know, I'm just I'm not really going to go to work.
43:17
And I'm gonna because I just I couldn't imagine if I was asymptomatic and I spread COVID to a friend
43:21
and they went home and you know, they were around their mom and dad and then their dad got sick and
43:25
died. And the only one they knew of that had COVID-19 was me. That would be so crazy. I couldn't
43:29
imagine doing that. It's like, well, aside from the fact that you described a kind of ridiculous
43:34
scenario, we've been told now that asymptomatic spread isn't really a thing. But a lot of people
43:39
die from the flu every year as well, a surprisingly high amount of people, right? So why don't you do
43:47
that every flu season? Why don't you just stay home every October through March? Because you might
43:53
infect somebody with the flu and they might go home and give the flu to an elderly grandparent
43:59
who will eventually get pneumonia and die. Like, again, you just got to be realistic. You have
44:04
to play this out. Like, if you're if you're going to keep everything locked down because you're
44:08
fearful that you might get somebody sick, you have to take that into all the other scenarios as well.
44:12
So what about if someone said something like this? We need to shut everything down. Look at
44:17
what's happening in New York City. This is a pretty simple one. I would ask them, do you live in New
44:21
York City? Because guess what? My hometown of a lot in Oklahoma is not a whole lot like New York City.
44:28
If you live in Bozeman, you know, I don't think that looks like New York City. We should not treat
44:33
every city in the country as if it's New York City. Just because most of the major news networks
44:37
are in New York City. And so they're constantly talking about the frantic nature of things going
44:41
on in New York City. That's not a concern for me in central Oklahoma. Okay. What about people
44:46
that say something like this? Lockdowns are the best solution to this problem. I would ask
44:52
some something like this. Are you aware of what's going on inside of thousands of homes in the
44:57
world right now? If not, I guess maybe even millions of homes right now? Because guess what
45:03
else is up all over the world? Child abuse is up all over the world. Kids go into the hospital
45:08
because they're getting beat up by their parents. Spousal abuse is up all over the world.
45:13
Suicides again are up all over the world. Pornography use is at an all time high.
45:19
People are literally sitting around at home bored and they're self-medicating with porn.
45:25
Destroying their brains, rewiring the pleasure centers of their brains
45:28
by jerking off and watching porn. So those are all things that are happening because of lockdowns.
45:34
Now, I'm not saying, oh, the governments are responsible because they locked everything down.
45:38
And now, you know, people are beating their kids. Like you still have to have
45:41
some ownership over how you're going to act as a human being. But come on, lockdowns are the best
45:47
solution. There's a lot of reason to think it's not. And then the last thing here on this section
45:53
here is if someone says something like this, we can't let our children go to school this fall
45:59
for their safety. We're so concerned about their safety. I would ask them this. Are you aware of
46:06
the test statistics for COVID-19 for children? That's what I would ask them because here's the thing.
46:12
According to the CDC, and I know, you know, they've led us wrong, but this is the current
46:16
stat that we're going to look at according to this industry or disease control since the
46:19
beginning of the pandemic. Okay, as of the recording of this podcast, 76 Americans under the age of 18
46:28
have died from COVID-19. 76 Americans. Okay. Now, there are around 75 million people
46:40
in the United States that are currently under the age of 18.
46:46
76 have passed away. I wish they hadn't died, but the overwhelming majority of those people
46:53
had other health issues that exacerbated the problem with COVID-19 once they contracted it.
46:57
So these teachers who were told all the time that all they want to do is teach and, you know,
47:06
mold the minds of these kids and how they're so important and how they should be paid more
47:10
and how their life is so hard, you know, making an average of $75,000 a year to teach in the United
47:16
States, they get three months off spring break, fall break, these, you know, Christmas break,
47:20
these, these horrible poor teachers, right? Gosh, all they're doing right now is they're just
47:26
desperate to not teach kids. They just don't want to go to school and they're like, Oh, it's because
47:31
we're concerned about the kids, you see, because the death rate for kids underneath the age of 18
47:37
pretty much is not existent. But these teachers know we got to keep things shut down.
47:43
Because here's the thing, guys, is if you shut down schools in the fall, what about the kids who
47:48
don't have parents that can stay home and make sure that their kids are learning or they don't
47:54
have childcare figured out? What about the single moms that are already working two jobs
48:00
just to take care of, you know, making ends meet? And now they got to stay home with their kids?
48:05
It's not, it's not sustainable. It's not possible.
48:10
And here's the other thing that I hear in my town that they, the school district decided to do this.
48:15
They're basically having some kids come to school on Mondays and Wednesdays. Other kids are coming
48:18
on, you know, Tuesdays and Thursdays and everything else is going to be held online. So, and even in
48:23
some of these schools, like they've already thought about, okay, well, what about if kids don't have
48:26
a laptop, you know, they're checking them out of a laptop, like they would a textbook, right?
48:30
But are they guaranteeing that there's internet in the homes for these kids?
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Because I live in a pretty affluent city in the state of Oklahoma, but there's poverty. There's
48:39
real poverty in my city as well. Are we just assuming that these kids have internet at home?
48:44
They have Wi-Fi. They can just walk around and work anywhere in their house. The libraries are closed.
48:49
The kids can't go learn there. And the other thing about it is is, you know, they've got all
48:54
these standards for, you know, if a kid tests positive, you know, basically that entire class
48:58
is going to have to quarantine at home for two weeks because obviously they can just snap their
49:02
fingers and parents can take care of their kids, take off work for two weeks or something like that.
49:05
But what they're not talking about is what if that kid has a brother or a sister?
49:09
In school. In the same school. Like, are the brothers and sisters classes? Do all of them
49:14
have to quarantine now, too? It's like they're not taking this to the next level or even the
49:19
second level out to see what they should really do. So yes, schools should open in the fall.
49:25
And if you might be thinking to yourself, well, Kyle, what about teachers? What about teachers
49:30
that are susceptible? Well, guess what? If you're a teacher that's of the age where you are susceptible
49:35
to this virus or you have diabetes or you're, you know, you recovered from cancer and you're
49:40
only two years in remission or something like that, well, let's make accommodations for you.
49:44
Right. Let's get a proctor in the classroom. Let's let's figure out a way where you can still
49:49
teach the kids digitally. You still grade papers, but you're not going to interact with them. You're
49:53
not going to get all the germs and all that kind of that normal stuff. Because the reality of this
49:56
is guys is there is a much higher chance of your child below the age of 18 dying from the flu than
50:02
COVID-19 stopping ridiculous. The pausing these kids education any longer doesn't make any sense
50:12
because the same thing is true for people that are canceling fall school. Go ahead and cancel
50:16
school in the spring to cancel in person school in the spring. Actually go out on a limb because
50:21
nothing's going to change. Again, we won't have a vaccine. We're not going to have therapeutics that
50:25
are going to take care of this. And you're still ignoring the fact that kids aren't dying from
50:28
COVID-19. They're just not dying. I know this seems insensitive and gosh, how could you point
50:34
out something that's so seemingly obvious? Guys, the thing is, is we have to be realistic about what's
50:40
really going on here. This is about control. This is about teachers unions telling you when it's
50:46
okay for your kid to be taught. And guys, there's a lot of people that for the first time in their
50:51
lives, you know, they thought about homeschool. Now they're really going to maybe pull the trigger
50:54
on it. They thought about charter schools and all the different things are really going to pull
50:58
the trigger on it because basically the public school is telling you whether or not they're
51:01
going to educate your kid. I mean, there's there's statistics coming in. I think LA County looked at
51:06
the number the percentage of students that didn't even open the online portal once school was canceled
51:12
in the spring whenever they told everyone to go home in February and March or whatever. It was like
51:15
40% of students in LA County, which I think is the largest school district in the United States.
51:20
If not, it's New York, but this gigantic school district 40% of the kids never even opened up
51:24
the portal. These kids aren't learning. Their parents aren't telling them to learn. They're not
51:29
watching them over their shoulders, making sure that they're learning. These kids are being left
51:33
behind. So no, until you can show me definitive data that says this is literally a danger to children.
51:40
Just shut up. Let the kids go to school. So the last section here that we'll get into is what
51:46
your thoughts on COVID-19 say about you? Because again, no matter what side of the fence you're on
51:50
on this issue, it says something about you, right? You know, obviously you've heard a lot of my
51:55
opinions up to this point. So it says something about me, you're certainly making judgments about
51:58
me. So let's get into what that looks like. So if you're pro lockdown, everything, you know,
52:03
COVID-19 will kill us all, you know, please government do something to save us, wear a mask or you're
52:08
a monster. If you're one of those people, here's what I know about you. That says that you're you're
52:12
a pretty risk averse person, typically that most of the situations in your life, you're not going
52:17
to be the one that's going to take the risk. That's what I know about you. If that's your opinion.
52:22
Another thing that I know about you is it shows how easily you can be controlled and
52:26
manipulated because it's easy to manipulate somebody who will just take the government line or take
52:34
the chiron on CNN or take the headline and make it truth for their life. There are a lot of people
52:40
in my life that are more controllable than I ever thought possible. It's pretty interesting.
52:47
Another thing that it shows is how much you really can't see or don't care about the residual
52:53
damage caused by shutting everything down. So if you're pro lockdown, everything, it just I just
52:59
can't believe how you don't have any sympathy for the things that are going on for the lives that
53:02
are being ruined by these government shutdowns and by these mandates that are being passed down by
53:07
draconian mayors and governors. I just man, that just tells me you seemingly don't care about that.
53:14
And again, if you're one of those people, it shows how truly scared you are. And I mean to
53:19
your core as a human being, you are just so afraid. Because here's the thing guys is I would agree
53:25
that fear was essential at the beginning of the pandemic. It was essential, right? Because
53:32
we thought the death rate was, you know, four or five, six percent, which would be horrific.
53:38
I mean, absolutely horrific. That's a real pandemic, right? But we didn't think the death rate was
53:44
going to be like point four, point three, point two percent, right? So fear at the beginning was
53:49
super effective. It's not effective anymore. But there's all these outlets and all these Twitter
53:55
people, and they're just pushing this fear porn, which is like, Oh my gosh, you can't go outside
54:00
because of this anecdotal story. And oh man, there was a slight uptick in this town somewhere.
54:03
So we got to shut everything down in our part of the world. It's just not super helpful.
54:08
So that's what I know about you. I know those things about you. You're risk averse. You know,
54:12
you can be controlled and manipulate it easily. You really don't care about residual damage
54:17
to shutting everything down. And just you're super scared if you're pro lockdown, everything.
54:20
But before you think I'm not going to pick on the other side, if you're anti lockdown, right?
54:25
If COVID-19 isn't a big deal, the government, you know, isn't going to tell me what to do,
54:30
masks are for Pussy's like, if you're one of those people, this is what I know about you.
54:34
You're typically okay with some risk exposure, right? I mean, you're just going to be okay with
54:39
that. That's just who you are. It also tells me that you put extra effort into not being controllable,
54:45
right? The government's not going to tell me what to do, even if it's not necessary.
54:48
Even if it's super unnecessary for you to do that, you're going to go out of your way to post on
54:54
Facebook and post a sticker on your truck and do all those things and show people how much
54:57
you're not going to listen to the government. Okay, I get it. It also shows me that you are
55:01
utilitarian, right? You are focused on the majority. So you can come off as heartless
55:08
because you're not worried about the individual stories. You're worried about the macro story.
55:12
You're worried about the 30,000 foot view and not the ground level view. So that's what we
55:16
know about you. Another thing we know about you is you seem like you need to show people how
55:21
not scared you are. So that's one annoying thing I've seen from people that are on the anti lockdown
55:27
side is you don't have to go over the top. But these people are just so down to just
55:33
beat on their chest and show people how not scared they are. But here's the thing. I think most
55:39
people should be somewhere ish in the middle. I think being sort of in the middle on COVID-19
55:45
is a really good place, a really fair place to be at this point. Again, because we don't know
55:50
everything. There's a lot not known about what we're dealing with. And I'm trying to be honest
55:56
intellectually and be somewhere in the middle. But this is kind of where I land personally. Okay,
56:02
I don't think mass lockdowns are helpful overall. I think the residual effects that are being caused
56:08
by businesses being lost, by life's works and life savings being lost, the amount of suicides,
56:14
the amount of other diseases that are going to come from this and other health issues that are
56:18
going to come from people not taking care of themselves during the lockdown. I do not think
56:23
that the mass lockdowns have worked. And again, we can look at Sweden as a as a case study that,
56:28
you know, there and here's the thing guys, is there are states that never locked or have never
56:32
come out of lockdown that are doing better than states are that are doing worse than states that
56:38
were state open in the United States. It's it's tough. So I don't think mass lockdowns are very
56:43
hopeful. I'm okay with wearing a mask though to protect others. You know, when it became decently
56:50
clear and still the data's not supremely clear on this, but when it became decently clear that if
56:55
you wear a mask, you're not unless it's M 95, you're not protecting yourself. But if you wear a cloth
57:00
mask or one of those throwaway masks that you're potentially protecting others, you know what,
57:05
I'm okay with that. So I don't wear a mask every everywhere that I go. But if I do go into lows
57:09
or Walmart or something like that, I'll throw my mask on. And it doesn't really bother me.
57:14
You say, Hey, you got to throw on a mask if you're going to come on the store. All right, I was
57:19
probably going to throw it on anyway. Okay. But I will tell you that I'm against mandating
57:24
mask wearing. Gosh, you know, my town, Edmond, Oklahoma, they had this ridiculous, you know,
57:29
the city council, we have five people in our city council and they passed this ridiculous law
57:33
where they were going to put a mask mandate in force, right? That was the headline. And then
57:38
you read the next line and it was this, the mask mandate will go into effect 30 days from now.
57:44
And it will last for two weeks.
57:46
I couldn't believe it. I literally had to read the sentence three or four times to wait,
57:53
wait, wait. So it's not going to go into effect for a month. And it's only going to be in effect
57:57
for two weeks after that. Okay. So it's kind of one of those things. It's like they're not really
58:02
pleasing anybody. The shutdown, everything people are going to be furious. And that you
58:06
can't tell me what to do. People are going to be furious. But it's pretty feckless to begin with.
58:10
But I don't want to be told what to do by the government, which who I don't think has my best
58:15
interest at heart. So I'm against mandating wearing a mask. If you feel like it's the right decision
58:21
for you to wear a mask and then wear a mask. Also, I'm okay to change my opinion on anything that
58:26
I've mentioned in this episode so far. If some real data comes out and suggests that I should do so,
58:32
like I'm absolutely going to go where the real verified data takes me, right? I reserve the right
58:39
to change my opinion. Again, as I've talked about a second ago, I think kids should go to school.
58:43
I think that the overwhelming amount of our focus should be on protecting the elderly population.
58:49
You know, the elderly population has been eviscerated by this in the United States and really across
58:53
the globe. And those were the people that were some of the least protected to start out. That's
58:57
where the majority of our focus should be. And the last little point is, I don't think you should
59:01
make every healthy person in the world stay home to protect the old and unhealthy.
59:05
And there's a lot of old and unhealthy people that would agree with that sentiment.
59:10
You know, because some of these people that are sick right now, they're sick because of their
59:14
own life choices. And they realize, man, you know, we shouldn't shut down, you know, tens of millions
59:19
of people, billions of people worldwide, because, you know, I made some bad decisions. And then for
59:24
the people that are just sick by no fault of their own, a lot of those people are like, yeah, you
59:28
know, I understand that I wish I could go outside and I wish I could take care of business in that
59:31
way. But, you know, it's a tough situation. Right. I understand that we should all be able to get
59:37
to work. So that's kind of how I feel about all these things. And guys, again, that's, you know,
59:43
about hours worth of content on months and months and months of thinking about this. And guys,
59:47
a week from now, I'm going to regret saying some of the things that I said here, because things
59:50
are going to change. And you know, again, I reserve the right to change my opinion, but that's just
59:54
kind of the world we live in now. But I do want to make one final point. Because I feel like there's
59:59
been a big point that's been made that I've taken a particular amount of offense to and I'm just
1:00:03
going to kind of squash it now. To those of you pointing your fingers at Christians
1:00:10
and demanding that we love thy neighbor and do that by supporting all the lockdowns
1:00:18
and some of the leftist policy prescriptions and by shutting down our churches and everything.
1:00:23
Let me remind you of what you're forgetting. You're forgetting to apply that scripture
1:00:30
about loving thy neighbor to the 99 plus percent of people that are not susceptible to death from
1:00:38
COVID-19, but are having their livelihoods and subsequently their lives ruined.
1:00:43
You want me to apply that to some people, but not others. So what these people are actually saying
1:00:53
when they say that to Christians is that they want us to love certain neighbors, a small, very
1:01:00
small percentage of them, instead of loving the 99.99% of people who will not be affected directly
1:01:07
by COVID-19 in terms of their health. So to those people, I say this, you do not get to tell us
1:01:17
how to love thy neighbor. You don't get to do that because most of the people that are saying things
1:01:24
like that are people that are okay with murdering a baby in the womb. So excuse me if I don't take
1:01:30
you seriously when you talk about loving my neighbor. A lot of you people are okay with the country
1:01:37
being torn down from the inside by people like Black Lives Matter and Antifa. Well, guess what?
1:01:42
I don't think that you know what it means to love thy neighbor when you support organizations like
1:01:47
that. When you support politicians that do everything they can to get Christianity to get any religion
1:01:54
out of the public square, to discriminate against people that believe that Jesus died on a cross
1:02:00
and rose from the dead. And they want to say that publicly. So you don't get to tell me how to love
1:02:07
my neighbor. I know how to love my neighbor. And if I'm doing it incorrectly, God will let me know
1:02:13
not you. All right guys, before we let you go, we will do a quick resilience boost. As you know,
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by now we are a men's ministry and our mission is cultivating manly resilience. Specifically,
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we do that by providing content like this podcast that helps you forge spiritual
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mental and physical toughness. So for today, for all of you, John McCarthy or fans, I got a sermon
1:02:31
for you. So this was a sermon from a couple of weeks ago. It's called we must obey God
1:02:35
rather than men. So if you don't know, John McCarthy has a church out in California and he
1:02:38
has defied the lockdown and shut down orders in California. And he has opened his church back up.
1:02:44
He's opened up the worship services and he's there preaching. This was a great sermon. Okay. And he
1:02:49
goes into some things about coronavirus and and how we are to to act in terms of the people that
1:02:55
control the local governments and all those municipalities. Like he did a fantastic job.
1:02:59
John MacArthur is a heavyweight. He's a big time guy in the space. He's a voice that we need right
1:03:04
now. And I wouldn't put it past the the government of California that they're maybe going to come
1:03:09
in and arrest him at some point for defying their orders. You know, he's probably going to get sued,
1:03:14
but this is a guy that's standing up for truth. And I think it's worth your time to take a look
1:03:18
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