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This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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All right, guys.
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Here's the thing.
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I tried to get canceled two weeks in a row, but I'm still here.
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Guys, aren't you just so excited?
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We made it to the third part of the Race in America series, and guys, I got one more
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shot at it.
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I've got one more shot at the title, and I'm going to try my absolute level best to make
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so many people angry in this episode.
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I'm kidding.
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I'm getting a little bit ridiculous.
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The thing is with these last two episodes, I've been very, very pleased with the feedback
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that we've gotten from you all that this content has been helpful for you.
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And the reason why I feel like I'm hearing that and the feedback that I've gotten from
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some people is a lot of pastors, which is even during times of COVID when a lot of you guys
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aren't even going physically to church, you're still turning to your pastors to figure out
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what to think about things.
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You're not really getting this content from them.
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So if you follow a lot of politicians or a lot of political theorists or political commentators,
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you may get some of this if you read the opinion pieces or op-eds in different newspapers,
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you're perhaps going to get this.
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But the big thing that's so interesting is no one's really talking about this in any
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level of depth.
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And so a lot of guys are kind of stuck like, well, here's some of the thoughts, I think,
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but is this wrong?
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Or, you know, is this factually incorrect?
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Or, you know, what about if this opinion is going to fill in on that opinion?
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But that's the thing, guys, is today we're going to wrap up and we're going to talk about
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how we reconcile.
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Okay, we're going to talk about, you know, we talked about what happened, we talked about
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what's really going on.
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And now we're really going to talk about how we reconcile.
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But I just got to urge you, you've got to listen to the other two episodes.
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You have to listen to episode 142 and episode 143 because these are all built to, you know,
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built on the backs of one another.
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And so you can't really listen to episode two without listening to episode one.
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And you can't really listen to this episode without listening to the first two.
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So please stop what you're doing.
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If you've made your way to episode 144, go back to episodes, start there.
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You know, it's a decent chunk of content, so you're going to have to get some time for
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that again.
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Listen to it at one and a half or two times speed if you can stand it so that you can
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get that content in.
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But just going to give you a little bit of an idea of where we've gone.
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This isn't going to be a full on recap of everything we've done in the first two sessions
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so far.
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But the first one we talked about what happened.
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We talked about what happened in George Floyd.
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We talked about the ratio of Brooks situation and we certainly talked about how those two
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situations are very different and how a lot of different things go into those situations
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and aren't really being talked being talked about in a super accurate way.
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And in last week's episode, I think I recap and I said that there were three foundational
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thoughts, but then I listed six.
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So but there were six foundational thoughts that, you know, might make people angry to
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hear, but you need to hear and those were that America's not a racist country.
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The second is the declaration of independence was an abolitionist document.
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The third is that there's no such thing as systemic racism in modern day United States.
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The fourth is there are zero countries on the planet that are devoid of racist people.
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The fifth is there's no such thing as reverse racism.
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There's just racism.
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And the last one was there are not two Americans basically talking about people that say, hey,
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there's white America and there's black America and they're not the same.
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That is silly.
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That doesn't make any sense.
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But last week's episode, we talked about what's really going on.
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And we talked about how right now in our current context, you can't just not be racist.
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You have to be anti racist.
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It's a whole different level of what you have to be in order to be inside the overton window
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or unable to be, you know, accepted in modern day culture.
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But then we went on a deep dive into what black lives matter.
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The organization is versus what, you know, obviously what the black lives matter sentence
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means.
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Then we got into what all lives matter means.
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And then also all black lives matter.
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We talked about abortion.
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We talked about a lot of different things that the black lives matter organization, the
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Marxist developed organization, they don't want us to look at all black lives mattering
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because if all black lives matter, then they have to kind of look at themselves in the
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mirror.
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But then also we did talk about Marxism.
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We talked about how Marxism and the things that he was thinking and writing in the 1800s
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have given rise to cultural Marxism intersectionality, critical race theory and how that's kind
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of informing the things that we're seeing now in this kind of postmodern world that
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we live.
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And the big point of that podcast was the pagan atheistic left.
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So the political left, they're trying to destroy America from within.
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And that does even sound, you know, whenever you hear that someone say something like that,
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it sounds a little bit tin foil, Hattie, like, ah, really?
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Is that really what's happening?
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I bet George Soros is behind it.
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But the thing is is where there's smoke, there's fire and they're literally saying it out loud.
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Again, people like Representative Ilhan Omar, which by the way, any of you listening in
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Minnesota, what is wrong with y'all?
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How the world does someone like that get elected to high office in the United States?
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That's just crazy to me.
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But it's this entire worldview that requires the destruction of what we're seeing around
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us currently in order to rise up and have this new perfect utopian structure, which,
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you know, obviously isn't realistic.
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And what we ended there, that episode at the end was the top 10 unintended slash intended
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consequences of all this unrest and destruction and disintegration.
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And the unintended is basically, if you're thinking like these are unintended consequences,
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you're probably thinking like a sane person and the intended consequences a little bit
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more on the tin foil hat side, but those 10 very quickly were people that don't know
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anything about policing will be creating new and improved policing standards and practices
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and new and improved as in a scare quotes, by the way, number two, the cycle of bad cop
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hiring because good people don't want to be cops now is going to basically be perpetuated
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in the future.
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Third is that crime, especially crime that affects people of color the most is skyrocketing
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across the United States, and that will continue as police stand down or actively kept from
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standing up.
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The fourth is real racism, racism might actually increase.
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The fifth is obvious or oblivious.
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People will erroneously believe that they can appease the mob.
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The sixth is that people that aren't ready for retribution are poking the wrong bears.
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Seven fake racism claims and hate crimes are about to go through the roof.
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You know, that's true.
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Number eight, the government run public schools will stop teaching our children about our great
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forefathers out of fear of being branded as a racist.
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The ninth is hating America will become a billion dollar industry.
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Perhaps it already has been created one or become one.
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And the last one is empathy field Christians are buying this Marxist critical race theory
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and intersectionality nonsense hook, lying in sinker and they're calling it the gospel.
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So we're going to spend a little bit more time going into that today.
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But for today's episode overall, it's basically, so what in the world do we do now?
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Great.
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Kyle, you spent the last, you know, the last two episodes, that's, you know, couple hours
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two and a half hours worth of content telling us what's going on, what's really going on.
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But now we got to get down to brass tacks.
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What do we do?
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What do we do with that information?
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Great.
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What's going on in education?
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And again, like I've told you in every episode so far, I'm not even getting into all the
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different ancillary things, the different tertiary things that are part of what we're
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seeing here because there's way too much to cover, too many things have happened.
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But now we're just stuck with the question, which is, how do we reconcile?
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What do we do?
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As well, meaning Christians as men of God as, you know, other lion sublines in the tribe
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of Judah, like what do we do at this point?
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And so guys, again, I'm limited in my ability to be able to create content and I'm only
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as as big as my intellect and what God allows me to say, but the best way that I could possibly
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think of how to basically bring all this to a crescendo or wrap this whole thing up is
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to bring you contrary ideas, but do that at the same time.
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So essentially, I've got a lot of statements I'm going to go through here.
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Maybe a couple dozen or so that are essentially we should not do this.
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But what we should do is this kind of a situation, okay?
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And guys, these aren't in any particular order.
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I mean, I kind of move some stuff around after I kind of got my thoughts down because again,
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I've spent the last, you know, two plus months now only really thinking about this and how
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I'm going to bring this content to you in a way that is going to be meaningful and expedient
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for you to be able to use.
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And so I'm just going to flow with them and they're all on the macro subject of race in
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America, but they are going to do deep dives into different areas.
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So let's just go ahead and launch in the first one here is we should not assume that we can
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fix racism.
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We should, however, realize we are up against a sin nature that can only be cleansed by
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God.
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One of the interesting things of what I'm seeing from people on the political left or
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people that are, you know, individuals that are screaming for racial justice or for us
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to, you know, level the playing field on a quality for all in the Black Lives Matter
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organization is I think that most of them cognitively believe that they can fix racism
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that that they can eradicate racism that all of a sudden they will be able to make racism
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a thing of the past.
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You've even heard guys like Joe Rogan, which a lot of you guys are fans of and I'm a fan
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of as well.
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He's taught, he's talked about, you know, in the future, he talks about robots and how
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we're just advanced apes and maybe we're going to go backwards and evolution.
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He's talked about all these different things.
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But at the same time, he's saying like, you know, in the future, whenever we don't have
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any racism, dot, dot, dot, and it's just the fact that these people don't get it.
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These are people that come from a secular worldview from a pagan worldview.
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And they think that we can progress beyond racism.
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And it's such a silly thought that if these people were to actually sit down and think
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about that, they have to realize that there is a nature inside of human beings that that
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can't be helped, there's a sin nature of the post Genesis three world that that, you know,
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that welcomed sin into the world.
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And I thought that this was great.
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I don't remember who said this, but there was a pastor that basically was getting up
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saying that you're born with sin nature and apparently some mother got up and said, are
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you saying my two year old or my three year old is, you know, they're sinful and they're
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bad and all these different things.
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And the person basically, you know, the woman at that point is a heckler, but the guy just
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handled the situation by saying ma'am, did you have to teach your kid to interrupt you?
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Ma'am, did someone have to teach your kid to steal toys to be selfish?
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And of course, at that point, you understand that, that there is no fixing that sin nature
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by the standards that the people are thinking, right?
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You have to have the intercession of God.
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Like that's something that absolutely 100% has to happen.
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That's not something that you can, you can take care of otherwise.
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And so again, we should not assume that we can fix racism.
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We should realize we are up against a sin nature that can only be cleansed by a good loving
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creator God.
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The next one is we should not ever apologize to the mom.
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We should attempt to educate them.
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But if that doesn't work, we must destroy their arguments and preferably publicly.
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Again, I talked about this in the last episode.
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There are people that are well meaning people that are just weak minded and weak willed
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and they don't understand that the mob doesn't care if you apologize.
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You can never apologize loud enough.
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You can never bow low enough.
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You can never do any of those things.
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You will not receive retribution.
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You will not receive grace.
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You will not receive forgiveness.
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But the thing about it is, is most of these people in the mob, they're people, right?
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Some of these people, I wouldn't say that the majority of the people that are in these
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mobs are so on the, on the extreme side of the, of being a zealot that they're unable
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to be reasoned with.
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Now there certainly are some and obviously just go to YouTube and you will see plenty
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of that.
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Just go to any time a, a conservative speaker is invited to a college campus or you know,
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anything that we saw in Chaz Chop, all those different things, a lot of these people just
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lack education.
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You know, I saw a, an unbelievable stat and I can't, I can't remember it exactly off
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top of my head.
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So I don't want to say it incorrectly.
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But basically the generation, like basically if you're in your thirties or forties, what
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you think about America and what teenagers and early twenties people think about right
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now in terms of what they think about America, it's getting so much worse because these people
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in the public school systems and in their colleges, they're being steeped in this, this
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ridiculous version of history of American history that we were just basically, we're
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a racist nation, history started in 1619, you know, not at 1776, like it's those types
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of things.
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And the thing about it is is most of these people just need a real education and that's
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one thing for me as a father, now that I'm a father, I'm already thinking about and trying
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to figure out which books that I'm going to make sure that the kid reads in which documentaries
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we watch and which movies that we watch that are going to teach them about the founding
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fathers and teach them everything about the founding fathers, teach them about the, about
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American history, teach them about World War II and the things that we were able to do,
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the things that we were able to accomplish as a country that made us so great, right?
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But the thing about it is, as I'll repeat it here now, we should not ever apologize to
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the mob.
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We should attempt to educate them, but if that doesn't work, we have to destroy their arguments
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preferably publicly.
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We need people to see that their arguments cannot stand on their own merits.
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The next one here is that we should not provide so-called reparations to black people in
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the United States, but we should be realistic about our ability to right wrongs.
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Okay, so here's the thing, black lives matter and many other groups think that the United
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States should provide reparations to all black people in America, even those that are not
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descendants of African slaves brought over to the United States.
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I didn't make that up.
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That is something that they actually believe.
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So if you're Jamaican and you're in the United States and you weren't part of the African
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slave trade, no one in your ancestry was, doesn't matter.
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You get reparations.
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Nigerians that are over here now, it doesn't matter.
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Aborigines that look black, doesn't matter.
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You all get reparations.
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The problem, the big problem here with any person or group that fights for reparations,
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it's immediately when you ask them how it will work, when you are trying to get down
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to the specifics and saying, hey, how is this going to work in real life?
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How is this going to work in practice?
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Okay, because there are things that you must demand that pro reparations people, people
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making that argument, you must demand that they explain these things.
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And they're not in any particular order, but here's a lot of questions that I've wondered
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about the reparations argument that no one can seem to answer.
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One, do all white people, no matter what, have to pay their reparations?
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And on the same thing, do all black people, no matter what, get to receive reparations?
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Okay, got to answer that?
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Also, what is an appropriate amount to pay each black person?
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You know, what's an amount of money or amount of land or capital or investment?
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That's the right amount to pay each black person.
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Another one, how long will the reparations be paid out for?
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Will the payments continue with each successive generation of black people that are born
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in the United States?
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Will it just continue at if an item or is it something that there's an end date for?
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You got to answer that.
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The next one is, will whites have to pay a set amount to black people or will that change
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based on the net worth of the white person or the black person?
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Does the fact that they're, you know, poor or, you know, well off, does that mean anything?
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Next one, if a black person in America is not a descendant of a slave, do they get reparations?
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Got to make sure you answer that one.
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Next one, if a white person can prove that no one in their family tree ever owned an African
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slave in America, do they still owe reparations?
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Got to have some sort of an idea of that.
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The next one is, will the white side of any white black interracial married couple, oh,
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the black side of the white black interracial married couple reparations?
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You know, I mentioned a couple of podcasts ago that my mom is married to a black guy.
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Does she owe him reparations?
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Like does she just like walk it across the house and hand it to him while he's sitting
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in the chair?
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Another one is this, is what if you are just part black?
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Do you get partial reparations?
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What if you were just part white?
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Do you only pay partial reparations?
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What about blacks that are descendants of black slave owners?
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Yeah, there were black slave owners in the United States and in Africa.
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What if they're descendants of those people?
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You know, what kind of reparations do they owe or will they receive?
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What about blacks that are descendants of black slave traders?
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That's something a lot of people don't like to talk about, but there were a lot of people
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that were going and rounding up, you know, there were African tribes that were rounding
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up members of rival tribes and selling them to white people and sending them off into
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slave trade, right? they were, they were getting rich off of creating slaves out of someone
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that looked like them that had the same amount of melanin as them.
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You know, what do we do with those people, the descendants of those people rather?
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What about this?
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Will rich black people still be entitled to reparations?
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So do, do I have to give reparations to Oprah, to Michael Jordan, Kanye West, Will Smith,
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do I owe reparations to these people?
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Here's another one.
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Are whites, you know, the ones that are with all that melanin privilege, all that white
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privilege, do they still have to pay reparations?
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You know, there's someone that's literally below the poverty line, but they're white.
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Do they have to pay reparations, regardless?
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And here, here's another one is, can the reparations extend out beyond the African slave
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trade in America?
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Because again, we have to take this to its logical conclusion.
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Can it extend out beyond that?
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So here's the thing.
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Here's a great question for me.
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I'm Choctaw Indian, I have Choctaw Indian blood in my veins.
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Can I demand reparations from the tribes that enslaved my ancestors?
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And could they ask the same of me?
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Can all those other nations that Choctaws made slaves of?
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Can they come to the Choctaw nation of which I'm a part and ask for reparations?
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Here's the other thing.
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What about if my Choctaw ancestors participated in shadow slavery in the American South?
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Do I have to like pay double reparations?
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Because I was enslaved by other tribes, you know, my people were enslaved by other tribes.
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And also, we were part of that in the American South where we also had black slaves.
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Is that like double bad?
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I mean, here's the other thing, since I'm Irish, a lot of me is Irish, can I demand reparations
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from England?
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Now, it's a dubious point, and it's a dubious claim that the Irish were enslaved by the
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English.
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You know, there's, there's evidence that goes both ways.
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Some look at it as a conspiracy theory, but let's even take it back all the way to Celtic
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times.
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At some point in my family tree, because I'm mainly an Irish and Scottish mutt, my people
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were taken slave by somebody.
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Can I figure out who those somebodies were and go to those countries and get my reparations?
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And guys, I really could keep going, but I'll save you.
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Do you see the problem?
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The reparations argument is just for show, you guys.
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It's for posturing.
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Like, it could never work in real life.
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Even people like Ta-Nehisi Coates, like he's written this entire, you know, book or pamphlet
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on, on reparations and then when it gets to the end, when it's like, can we actually
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do this?
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He's like, yeah, I don't really think so.
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I don't really know how we would actually make that happen.
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It's like, what exactly are we talking about them?
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Like, like why are we having this discussion?
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So it's disingenuous, but I do like this was a few weeks ago, Jeff Durbin was pointing
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this out on his podcast that what if white Americans said to Japanese Americans?
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So current Japanese Americans, if we said to them that we wanted them to kneel before
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us and apologize for the past sins because some of their ancestors may have been involved
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in World War II, World War II, and may have tried and or did kill white American soldiers.
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What if we demanded that of Japanese Americans?
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Just think about that.
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That sounds pretty ridiculous, doesn't it?
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Well, then tell me how that is fundamentally different than a black person telling a white
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person that they owe them reparations in 2020.
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Because here's the thing guys, in case you needed this spoiler alert, I have never personally
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owned slaves.
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Ever.
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I know it might seem incredibly surprising with all my white privilege, but I've never owned
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a slave in my entire life.
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No one in my family tree that I've ever met has owned a slave and no one in my family
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tree has ever owned an African slave in America.
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I can pretty much guarantee it.
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Again, Irish and Choctaw, India.
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I don't know.
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You crap.
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I don't know anybody, anything.
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Okay.
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Now, there are people that are on the other side of this argument that says, well, scripture
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provides us a biblical basis for reparations.
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So we need reparations.
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You're right and you're wrong.
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Because guys, if you go to Exodus and Leviticus, so Exodus 21 versus 33 through 36, and then
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it continues in chapter 22, verses one through 15, talks about reparations in Leviticus chapter
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five, verses 14 through 19, it talks about reparations as well.
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But here's the big key, the big key about people making that argument is the Bible does
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describe reparations, but specifically they describe reparations or restitution and how
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it's to be paid to a specific person, the person who was wronged, the person who is owed
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restitution, whose owed reparations.
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Now, there are some more liberal scholars, biblical scholars that argue that you could
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actually broaden that out to include a specific group.
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But even then, the reparations argument doesn't work because it would be talking about a specific
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group of people that was wronged.
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Because you know what I can't do as a white person, even if I had all the guilt in the
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world in my heart over American slavery and all those different things.
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And if we could prove that actually, you know, my great, great, great grandfather was the
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biggest slave owner in Georgia or whatever situation may be, even then, I do not owe
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reparations to anybody because I am not the one that sinned.
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You know, what I feel this tremendous desire to, you know, try to find descendants of slaves
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that my great, great, great grandfather owned and talk to them about that and say how, how
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I'm sorry that that happened to them and all those different things.
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But I don't owe them anything because I can't square that circle for them.
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I can't pay that debt.
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So again, the reparations argument is absolutely, absolutely ridiculous.
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Again, we should not provide so-called reparations to black people in the United States or anywhere.
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But what we should do is be realistic about our ability to right wrongs.
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And here's the thing, guys, is we can't really right wrongs that happened in the past from
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our ancestors that we never met and probably don't even know their names.
21:46
So next one here is we should not allow people to treat the government as daddy and we should
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demand that fathers be fathers.
21:54
So here's the thing, guys, every sociological study that I've ever seen that I've ever read
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about the family comes to the exact same conclusion.
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All of them do children do the best in homes where both mom and dad are present.
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And you can dig down and say, well, what if mom and dad don't really love each other?
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What if they don't have sex a lot?
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And what if they don't have like a very outwardly loving relationship?
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And what if they final?
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Nope.
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None of that matters.
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It does matter.
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Don't don't misunderstand me.
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It does matter.
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But just the fact that a child grows up in a home where mom and dad are both present, that
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child has a tremendously high higher ability to be resilient, the ability to do well in
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school, to not drop out, to not be a problem child.
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It's incredible.
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But the reality is, is in the United States, almost 75%, three out of four black children
22:42
in the United States are born out of wedlock.
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And then about 60% of black children live in a home without mom and dad are present.
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It's usually just mom.
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That is not a recipe for success at all.
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Because single motherhood is encouraged by the United States government.
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And it's highly, highly subsidized in the black communities.
23:06
So I read this great article, I'll try to remember to put it in the show notes here.
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But according to Robert rector at the Heritage Foundation, I'll just go ahead and read this
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quote.
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"Throughout US history, marriage was the norm.
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Prior to the mid 1960s, nearly all children were born to married couples.
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When the war on poverty began in 1964, only 7% of children were born to unmarried women.
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However, over the next four and a half decades, the share of nonmarital births exploded.
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In 2013, 41% of all children born in the United States were born outside of marriage."
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It went from 7% to just over four decades later to 41%, almost half.
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Guys, there's this false narrative that in the black community, fathers aren't around
23:52
because they've been thrown in jail, right?
23:54
You know, we have the war on drugs, and that is disproportionately targeting black people
23:59
and those types of things.
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But that argument is very, very misleading, right?
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Because the overwhelming majority of black fathers are not in jail.
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Just statistically speaking, I'm not even talking about sociology at this point, just
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statistically speaking, the overwhelming majority of black fathers are in jail.
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They're just not in the home with the children.
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They're gone.
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They're somewhere else.
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They've abdicated their responsibility as a father.
24:25
And the interesting thing here is, again, you're hearing me say this, and as I've admitted
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to you before, because I feel like I have to, quote, admit it to people now, I'm a white
24:32
guy.
24:33
And so this sounds like, oh, how dare you talk about that community?
24:35
How dare you do all these different things?
24:37
The funny thing is, is the same people that would fight against the words that I'm saying
24:41
say the same thing to black people, let's say it.
24:44
When a conservative, a black conservative, or when a, you know, a black pastor or something
24:49
like that comes up and basically says these things, they're treated, they're called an
24:54
uncle Tom.
24:55
They're called, you know, a coon, they're called all these horrific names because they're just
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saying like, hey, black dads, you need to be in the home.
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If you got her pregnant, you need to marry her.
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That's like a crazy thing to say in 2020.
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But when all the data points to that being to what's best for the kid, then we're not
25:14
going to have as many kids that get into gangs.
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That's just statistics.
25:17
We're not going to have as many kids that are dropping out of high school or not going
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to college.
25:21
It's just statistics.
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We're not going to have as many kids getting into trouble and going to jail and their late
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teens or early twenties.
25:27
It's just statistics.
25:29
Like I'm not appealing to any other type of argument aside from the one that I can see
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right in front of me in black and white, right?
25:35
It's just right there in front of me.
25:36
So we should not allow people to treat the government as daddy, but we should demand
25:41
that father's be fathers.
25:43
Again, easier said than done because we're 40 years down the road in terms of this experiment
25:48
in welfare and all these different things with single motherhood, but you know, it's
25:51
just kind of where we're at.
25:52
The next one here, we should not teach children that they are victims no matter what.
25:58
We should teach them how to be resilient.
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So in the book, The Coddling of the American Mine, which I'm surprised I'm done an entire
26:06
episode on that.
26:07
I probably should at some point, but it's a fantastic book.
26:08
It's probably the best book I've read so far this year in the coddling of the American
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mine.
26:13
It talks about safetyism.
26:14
It talks about all these kids on college campuses, how they feel like words are violence
26:17
or if you disagree with them that that's that's somehow violence towards them and they need
26:22
to be, they need to be protected from that.
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Okay.
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But there's another thing that's very nefarious that a lot of people are doing is they're teaching
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their children, especially, you know, children that are from, you know, the people of color,
26:33
so Latinos or blacks or whatever the situation may be, they're teaching their children that
26:37
no matter what you do, son, no matter what you do, honey, you're always going to be behind.
26:43
No matter what you do, you're never going to be able to succeed.
26:46
Not really.
26:47
No, no matter how hard you work, the man's going to keep you down and that man happens
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to be white, Christian, cisgendered, conservative, whatever the situation may be, they're always
26:57
going to be keeping you down.
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What a horrific thing to teach a child.
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Now, I have my personal qualms with people that tell their children, you can do anything.
27:06
You can be anything you want to be because if mom and dad are both below five five odds
27:11
are that kids not going to end up in the NBA, just say it.
27:13
We don't see the gene pool really making that happen.
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I think it's really, really good for parents to encourage your children to explore and to
27:21
figure out the things that they truly are passionate about, the things that God has put
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inside their hearts that have been imbued on them.
27:27
I think it's great for parents to encourage that while at the same time saying, okay,
27:32
you're probably not going to be an astrophysicist because you're really, really good at baseball,
27:35
whatever the situation might be.
27:37
But I've just heard so many parents and I've seen the evidence of it that these parents
27:41
are just telling their kids that no matter what, they're not going to be able to succeed.
27:44
They're not going to be able to overcome.
27:46
And that is not a recipe for success for these children.
27:49
I feel really bad for these kids.
27:50
I hope that they can break out of that.
27:52
The problem is if they break out of their homes and then they go to college, all their
27:55
professors are going to tell them the same thing.
27:58
And we'll certainly get more into that later as to kind of the ancillary consequences of
28:02
what happened in those types of situations.
28:04
But I would ask these people that are telling their children, hey, you know, honey, you're
28:08
black, there's just no way you're going to be able to succeed in America.
28:11
I just want them to be able to explain that to me, to maybe get on a whiteboard and, you
28:15
know, get a marker and jot down exactly what they mean by that.
28:20
You know, just really, really narrow it down.
28:23
Because one of the great things that I've learned from Jordan Peterson is whenever he
28:26
was doing his clinical psychology, when people were coming in with these phobias, these like
28:31
literally phobic level fears of certain things, regardless of what they, what they were, his
28:35
goal was not to decrease the fear level in them.
28:39
His goal for them was to increase their courage.
28:43
And so if you're sitting there, and even if you honestly, if you're the mom of the
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dad of this child of color and you're thinking to yourself, man, they just, and they're just
28:50
not going to be able to succeed like all the other white kids in their class, even if you
28:53
believe that, why would you tell them that?
28:57
Because there's nothing actionable with telling them that unless you're trying to pull some
29:00
reverse psychology thing, why not teach them to be resilient?
29:04
Why not teach them to be an overcomer, regardless of the situation?
29:09
Why don't you teach them that their immutable characteristics don't define them?
29:14
And we'll certainly get to more more into that here in just a second.
29:16
So I don't want to put the cart before the horse, but guys, we should not teach children
29:20
that they are victims no matter what.
29:22
We should teach them how to be resilient and we'll get into the next one here.
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We should not treat people a certain way based on their race alone.
29:29
We should treat people as individuals.
29:35
I know this is crazy to think in the world of intersectionality, but we have to treat
29:39
people as individuals.
29:40
So a great story came up.
29:41
So for those of you who are familiar with my foxhole, this is from Mike, the grinder.
29:45
So this is a very well-meaning guy, very thoughtful guy, very smart guy.
29:49
He sent out a message to our foxhole groups and you could just tell this was maybe a week
29:53
or two after George Floyd had been killed and we saw all the riots and all the unrest
29:58
and all the things going on in the city that we're in Oklahoma City.
30:00
We're certainly not immune to all of that, but he sent out a message to our group and
30:04
it essentially said something along the lines of, Hey guys, you know, let's go and he talked
30:08
about a specific part of town where there's a high population of black people.
30:12
How about we just, you know, I don't know, just go down to that neighborhood and hold
30:15
up signs and say that we'll, you know, mow lawns form or, you know, we'll help fix things
30:21
in their house or, you know, just, just help the black community out.
30:25
And again, I'm not dogging on Mike because he's a very well-meaning guy and I know what
30:29
he was talking about there came from a very, very genuine and positive place.
30:34
But I called him immediately after I saw the message and he and I just had a discussion
30:37
and I said, how offensive of you to think that going to that neighborhood and holding
30:43
up a sign would somehow assuage the mourning that that community quote unquote might be
30:49
in because you're going to drive to a part of town that you perceive to be a quote unquote
30:55
black part of town and you're going to assume that the black people that you see on that
30:59
part of time to part of town need your help specifically.
31:04
They need you to mow their lawn because well, they're not capable.
31:07
They need you to fix their sink or to, you know, fix their fence because, well gosh, they're
31:11
not capable.
31:12
They don't have the means to do so.
31:15
It's a paternalistic mindset that somehow these people are helpless, which is insane
31:22
because they're not helpless.
31:25
But if you hear about a specific instance, a specific person that needs help and you
31:32
want to hop in and be Superman, I say be Superman hop in there and get after it.
31:37
And if that person happens to be black, great.
31:40
If they happen to be polka dotted purple and green, great too.
31:45
But this idea that we should treat people as groups and that will somehow fix something.
31:50
It's just silly.
31:51
It's paternalistic.
31:52
It doesn't make sense.
31:53
So again, I'm not dogging on Mike because I do believe he was coming from a place of
31:57
genuine concern.
31:59
But this is where I kind of want to fight against this, this idea of quote black community,
32:04
the black community or the gay community or the trans community or the Latino community
32:09
or the illegal immigrant community.
32:11
These aren't communities in the way that we normally think about a community.
32:16
Think about your neighborhood.
32:17
That is a community.
32:18
Could you all live?
32:19
Maybe it's a gated community.
32:20
Maybe it's just, you know, a specific area on the map where this is this neighborhood.
32:23
We all call it by this.
32:25
That's a community.
32:26
But doing something aside from fixing the sidewalk or changing out the trees in that
32:32
community, there's nothing that you can do that directly affects the entire community.
32:36
The same is true when George Floyd is killed.
32:40
You're assuming that that affects all black people the same way.
32:44
When an illegal immigrant dies trying to cross the border, you're assuming that that affects
32:48
all people that look like that person, even if they're not from the same country as that
32:51
person, you're assuming that that affects them the same.
32:54
That's silly.
32:55
And I think we would do well to do not look at intersectionality as a viable theory because
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it's not because guess what?
33:05
If I'm standing in front of a half black, half Native American transqueer, lesbian, who's
33:11
in a wheelchair, they have the Amago day, they have the image of God written on them.
33:20
So in those instances, they're no different than me.
33:24
When you look at us, in terms of a picture of them and a picture of me, there's nothing
33:28
that that we're similar, right?
33:30
We don't look similar at all.
33:31
We probably don't have similar worldviews, but we both have the Amago day.
33:35
So why in the world should I treat them as if they're part of a larger group when I could
33:39
treat them as an individual?
33:43
Because Jesus died for all mankind, right?
33:45
He died for all of us.
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He didn't die for the black community or the Latino community or the white community
33:51
or the trans community or the gay community.
33:53
He died for all of us.
33:55
So to try and section this thing off as if that's going to help us in this situation,
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don't get pulled into that.
34:00
I see a lot of Christians getting pulled into the intersectionality and getting pulled into
34:04
these arguments that are post modernist arguments that come from Karl Marx.
34:08
Don't get tricked, guys, guys, we should not treat people a certain way based on their
34:12
race alone.
34:13
That's racist.
34:14
We should treat people as individuals.
34:17
Next one here.
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We should not pretend that we are color blind, we should embrace the uniqueness of people
34:24
as a gift from God.
34:25
Okay.
34:26
So here's the thing.
34:27
You see a lot of people, a lot of well-meaning white people, liberal, woke white people that
34:29
say, well, I'm color blind.
34:30
I just don't see race.
34:32
I just look at somebody and they're just a person with eyes and a mouth.
34:35
And that's it.
34:37
It's ridiculous.
34:38
And again, that's condescending because of course you're not color blind.
34:42
Even if you are guys, I know a lot of guys are color blind, but you know what I'm saying?
34:45
In terms of race, of course you're not color blind.
34:48
But when I run into somebody that is a different race than me, I think that's interesting because
34:55
I know just by guessing they probably had a slightly different upbringing than I did.
34:59
Maybe they ate slightly different food.
35:01
Maybe grandma talked to them in a different way than my grandma did.
35:05
I think that's awesome.
35:07
I want to embrace the uniqueness of people because that is truly a gift from God.
35:13
God gave us these different races.
35:15
He gave us these different languages and these different cultures and these different norms
35:18
and these, these different ways of dressing, different ways of preparing food, like whatever
35:22
the situation may be.
35:23
And that is so awesome.
35:25
We talk about America being a melting pot.
35:27
That's the melting pot of the world.
35:29
Why in the world would you travel maybe to another country or another part of the country
35:33
that you're in where a lot of people don't look like you and just pretend that they do?
35:38
They're just a human.
35:40
All humans are pretty much the same thing.
35:41
Some are tall.
35:42
Some are fat.
35:43
So this is a very different situation.
35:47
Don't pretend that you're colorblind because you're not.
35:49
It's dumb.
35:50
It doesn't even make sense.
35:51
Embrace the uniqueness of people.
35:52
It's a tremendous gift.
35:53
So no, we should not pretend that we are colorblind.
35:55
We should embrace the uniqueness of people as a gift from God.
35:58
Next one here.
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We should not destroy the history of the United States and its founders.
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We should educate people on the true history of the United States and its founders.
36:09
So guys, we talked about this a lot in the last episodes.
36:11
I'm not going to labor the point, but tearing down statues of Thomas Jefferson, taking George
36:16
Washington's name off of a school or a street or any of those types of things or not uttering
36:23
their name because they did some really horrific things.
36:25
In addition to the great things that they did, it doesn't do anything unless you're a Marxist
36:29
and that's your plan for the beginning because you can't have this utopian vision of the
36:34
planet if you also have history because history tells us that your plan doesn't work and it's
36:39
not going to work and it won't ever work.
36:41
Regardless of how forcefully you try to put it down our throats, okay, but we need to
36:46
educate people.
36:47
That's why I talked about my son.
36:48
I'm going to educate him and any other kids that were blessed to be able to have on the
36:50
true history of the United States.
36:52
And I'm not going to hide from him.
36:54
The horrific things that were done by some of the founders.
36:56
I will 100% tell him about what Thomas Jefferson did with slaves, how he basically kept some
37:01
of his slaves in sexual enslavement in addition to just regular enslavement, right, and father
37:08
children with them and the horrific things they're in, but also he's got to wrote the
37:13
Declaration of Independence, which if you remember from the top of this episode when
37:16
we went over that two episodes ago, that's an abolition, abolitionist document because
37:21
it's okay to have a little bit of dissonance with our, with our people from the past.
37:27
How can Thomas Jefferson write this amazing document that led to the abolition of all the
37:31
slaves in the United States while owning slaves himself and not treating them very well?
37:37
How can we do that?
37:39
The way that you do that is you educate people.
37:41
You teach them about sin nature.
37:43
You teach children.
37:44
Hey, our founders were not perfect men.
37:46
Christopher Columbus was not a perfect man.
37:49
People in the West that have perpetuated a Western ideology that is undergirded by the
37:54
things that we've learned from a Judeo Christian worldview.
37:56
They're not perfect people.
37:57
And you don't really have to go farther than the Bible to realize that there's not perfect
38:01
people.
38:02
One of my favorite people in the history of ever is King David.
38:05
Do we really need to go over the things that King David did?
38:08
Right?
38:09
Murder, adultery, like the list goes on and on with this guy.
38:13
So can we not talk about King David?
38:17
Do we remove King David from our Bibles?
38:19
Because he did some horrible things.
38:21
He got a woman's husband killed so that he could sleep with her.
38:26
I mean, again, you have to take this to its logical conclusions, but guys, we should not
38:31
destroy the history of the United States and its founders.
38:33
We should educate people on the true history of the United States and its founders.
38:37
Next one here, we should not automatically believe every person of color when they claim
38:41
that they have been a victim of a racist act.
38:44
We should treat every alleged instance of racism with skepticism as with literally any
38:49
other claim of wrongdoing or crime.
38:52
So that might sound a little bit insensitive, but there are, I don't know if I mentioned
38:56
this in last episode or not, but there are organizations in the United States that are
38:59
now doing diversity training and implicit bias training, and they're basically telling
39:03
all of their management, Hey, if a person of color comes to you and claims that they're
39:07
a victim of a racist act, just believe them until proven otherwise, which sounds insane
39:15
because it is in what other part of society would we be okay with that that we would basically
39:23
just believe them before we see any evidence because again, you're not going to find me
39:27
as the guy that if there is evidence of a racist claim, I'm certainly not going to say
39:31
that they should ignore that too.
39:32
They should fight against it.
39:33
We'll certainly talk a more about that later, but this idea that this is somehow evening
39:37
the score by believing all of these individuals that's silly because of what I said in the
39:42
last episode, which is that these instances of fake hate crimes are going through the
39:46
roof in the United States.
39:48
And a lot of these people that are quote unquote, I've said that about 1000 times in this episode,
39:53
but if they're quote unquote victims of hate crimes, a lot of these people, you know, perpetrated
39:56
them on themselves, they spray painted the N word on the side of their building building.
40:01
They're the ones that hung up a noose in their dorm room, like they're the people that are
40:05
doing it.
40:06
They're just crying out for attention and more often than not, it wasn't something perpetrated
40:11
by a racist white person or a racist, any other color of person.
40:15
It's something that they did themselves because I don't know, they thought that could gain
40:19
points again.
40:20
Jesse Smollett thought that he was his career was going to explode because of that.
40:23
Well, it kind of exploded in the opposite direction.
40:25
But again, we should not automatically believe every person of color when they claim that
40:28
they should they have been a victim of a racist act.
40:31
We should instead treat every alleged instance of racism with skepticism as with literally
40:35
any other claim of wrongdoing or crime.
40:37
You don't automatically believe stuff until you've seen an evidence that doesn't really
40:41
make a lot of sense to do that.
40:43
Next one here, we should not defund the police.
40:46
We should refund the police.
40:50
Now, I say refund because there are a lot of police departments in the United States that
40:55
have had their budgets cut, especially in the wake of what happened to George Floyd and
40:58
Rayshard Brooks, as if that's going to help anything.
41:02
An interesting thing about some of those cities, so Chicago, New York, Milwaukee, some of these
41:07
cities that have done some of these silly things, Minneapolis murders have skyrocketed
41:11
and felony crimes have skyrocketed.
41:14
I talked about that in the last episode, but this idea that defunding the police is going
41:18
to help us, it doesn't make any sense unless you think like a Marxist thinks and you say,
41:23
well, we have to get rid of the police so that all the citizenry will depend on us and
41:27
us as big brother, us as the government, right?
41:30
The evil government that they're going to tear down and build back up as a phoenix rising
41:34
from the ashes in the image of Karl Marx, right?
41:38
But we need to refund those police departments.
41:39
In addition to that, we need to increase the funding, right?
41:42
Again, Andrew Yang doesn't say a lot of smart things.
41:45
Every cop should be a purple belt in Jiu Jitsu.
41:47
That's going to take time.
41:48
That's going to take money.
41:49
You've heard Jaka Willing say before that he thinks cops should be training 20% of the
41:52
time.
41:53
So if they work five days a week, one of those days is just spent training, training with
41:56
their firearms, training with grappling, training with, you know, law, just, you know, setting
42:01
the law, making sure that they're, they're all squared away.
42:03
But most of these cops after the academy, the standards just basically disappear.
42:08
Physical standards, mental standards, those types of things, they just disappear.
42:11
Well, if you're going to have better cops that are better able to handle the situations,
42:16
the almost 40, 400 million interactions with the United States populace every year, we've
42:21
got to have more funding for them so that they can do the training.
42:23
Now, you don't just increase the funding and the training just happens.
42:26
When you increase the funding, it has to be allocated to the right types of trainings.
42:29
But again, this whole idea of defunding the police, no, we should not defund the police.
42:33
We should refund the police.
42:34
Next one here, we should not pretend that people of color cannot be racist.
42:39
This is a, this is a big one.
42:40
We cannot pretend that people of color cannot be racist.
42:43
We should realize that racism can take many forms and can be perpetrated by anyone.
42:48
That looks like anything, right?
42:51
This idea that because, you know, and this, this comes from intersectionality, this post
42:55
matter, modern thoughts in terms of critical race theory, that, you know, the blacks or
42:59
other people of color, they can't be racist because they've never been the power.
43:03
They've never been in the majority, okay?
43:05
Only white people can be racist.
43:07
This doesn't even make sense on its face because we've seen a lot of racist things happen
43:12
in the black community.
43:14
Like again, I said the black community and when there's not really a black community,
43:17
but let me, let me take you back to a story I said in the first podcast.
43:19
I remember growing up, I saw blacks being racist to other blacks.
43:23
I saw, you know, I guess, I don't know what they would call themselves, but not dark-skinned
43:28
black people, not light-skinned black people, but somewhere in the middle, they would make
43:31
fun of the other two groups.
43:33
You know, regular black people would make fun of light-skinned black people and make fun
43:37
of dark-skinned black people.
43:38
Some of it went way beyond teasing, right?
43:41
Some of it was pretty horrific, some of the stuff that I saw.
43:44
So are those racist things?
43:47
Like they're certainly gross things, but I've also been around people that had been
43:53
beat up just because they didn't look like the race of the people that beat them up.
43:56
And spoiler alert, the people doing the beatings weren't white.
44:01
So those things are racist because if a group of six white people beat up a black kid just
44:05
because he's black, that's super racist and those kids should go down for that.
44:10
But if you reverse the roles and six black dudes beat up a white kid just because he's
44:13
white, that's hyper-racist.
44:17
So sitting around here pretending that people of color cannot be racist, that doesn't make
44:20
a lot of sense.
44:22
There's no way that you can actually defend that type of a thing.
44:25
And the reason is is because most people think in terms of racism and reverse racism, right?
44:29
So in the instances where a white person is being, you know, basically treated differently
44:33
because of their race, well, that's reverse racism, well, we've already talked about that.
44:36
There's no such thing as reverse racism.
44:38
There's only racism.
44:39
So again, we should not pretend that people of color cannot be racist.
44:41
We should instead realize that racism can take many forms and can be perpetrated by anyone.
44:47
Next one here.
44:48
We should not stand for the soft bigotry of low expectations.
44:52
We should judge everyone on an equal standing.
44:56
So some of you might be familiar with that phrase.
44:58
Some of you might not.
44:59
But the soft bigotry of low expectations is a phrase that was coined by Michael Gerson.
45:04
So he's a speech writer for George W. Bush, most attribute that quote, though, to W.
45:11
Because he said it in a speech to the NAACP back in 2000.
45:16
And so most people think that it was George W. Bush that came up with that, but it was
45:19
actually Michael Gerson.
45:20
But essentially, it's expecting less of someone based on their membership in a group based
45:25
on immutable characteristics such as race.
45:29
So the way that we see this and the way that W presented this, when he was talking to the
45:34
NAACP, he was talking about the No Child Left Behind Act, which I'm not here to talk
45:37
about whether that was a success or a failure.
45:40
But he was essentially talking about when you have lower expectations on an entire group
45:44
of children because of the race that they're associated with, that that's not good, that
45:48
we can't do that.
45:50
And so it's very bigoted to do that, actually.
45:54
And so we see this in a lot of cases.
45:55
So I guess the most stark example is college admissions standards.
45:59
And so you've probably heard a lot about this with Harvard and different things like that.
46:02
But there are a lot of colleges, pretty much all colleges will admit people from different
46:06
races and they will change the standards for those people in terms of admissions, okay?
46:11
So for certain scholarships or for just admissions, if you're a black person in the United States,
46:15
you can actually get a lower SAT or ACT score.
46:19
You can have a lower GPA, you can be involved in less things.
46:22
And you will be judged as equal to someone of another race that has to basically jump
46:28
over a higher bar.
46:30
You know, they have to get a 26 on the ACT, you only have to get a 22, that type of situation.
46:35
So the problem is, is these colleges, they create these quotas based on race, racial quotas,
46:42
gender quotas, whatever the situation may be.
46:44
And so they get the freshmen numbers.
46:46
So let's say they're their quota goal is to have 25% incoming freshmen being black people,
46:50
okay?
46:51
And then they stop tracking for the most part.
46:55
The problem that we see is with students of any race that are led into a college at standards
47:00
that are below the standards that are set by the university, the majority of those people
47:04
don't graduate.
47:06
And so you have these really, really hard schools where a lot of some heart people get
47:10
there and don't succeed.
47:12
And then you lower the standards for other people just so that they can get in and then
47:17
they don't finish.
47:18
What good is that?
47:20
That is a really negative outcome that comes from the soft bigotry of low expectations.
47:25
And so we've seen a lot of stories, and I've seen a lot of studies that I've looked at,
47:29
especially with these black high school students that are being accepted into colleges that
47:33
are kind of beyond them academically.
47:35
And then they get to these, and it's not beyond them academically because they're black, it's
47:38
just beyond them because of their background and their ability to understand.
47:42
They would be impossible for me to get into those schools as well, or most of the friends
47:45
that I know of all races.
47:47
But when you let them in just because of the color of their skin, they get there and then
47:51
they can't perform.
47:53
Or maybe worse yet, the professors just kind of pass them along.
47:58
And they just kind of give them the grades that they haven't really earned just because
48:01
of their immutable characteristics, such as their race.
48:05
It doesn't set that person up for success because you have to tease it out.
48:08
So let's say, you know, you admitted them from high school with lower standards and lower
48:12
grades and they get to college and they drop out.
48:14
That's a bad outcome.
48:15
Let's say you get them into college and you say, Oh, well, you know, they're black.
48:18
And so they probably had a bad home life and they probably had a bad education system that
48:22
they were a part of.
48:23
So let's give them an A, even though they earned a C or whether the situation may be,
48:27
they end up graduating and then they go out into the job market and they can't hack it.
48:33
And again, switch the races out and do this with any group.
48:36
It's the same thing.
48:37
If you were to change it for Asians or Latinos or whites or whatever the situation may be,
48:41
it's bad for them, quote unquote, as a group, this is the quote unquote podcast, but as
48:46
a group, it is bad for those people because at some point along the line, the other shoes
48:50
going to drop, whether in college, whether they're looking for a job, whether they're
48:54
trying to develop their career later on in life and they haven't learned the basic skills
48:57
to do so.
48:58
There's a really good friend of mine that, you know, he just couldn't write and he had
49:02
me try to look at one of his papers in college and the dude just couldn't write and it's
49:06
like at that point, I can't help him.
49:08
I'm just his buddy.
49:09
I'm a junior in college.
49:10
I know a good amount about English and I'm a decent writer, but this is a guy who needs
49:13
to basically go back to junior high and learn how to put a sentence together.
49:17
I can't fix that.
49:19
Think about it in the same way as a boss.
49:22
If you got a business degree, but you don't know anything about accounting, you don't
49:25
know anything about finance and you don't and you've never written a business proposal
49:29
of any kind and they're supposed to hire you in their business.
49:32
That's not their job to teach you those things.
49:34
You're supposed to come as a ready made package for those things.
49:37
So again, it's not beneficial to these people to do stuff like that.
49:41
So again, we should not stand for the soft bigotry of low expectations.
49:44
We should judge everybody on equal standing.
49:47
Next one here.
49:48
We should not participate in tokenism.
49:50
We should honor the best in every situation regardless of their immutable characteristics.
49:54
So tokenism is basically, you've heard of the thing, oh, the token black guy, the token
49:58
Asian, whatever the situation may be, but it's elevating somebody.
50:02
This is kind of attached to the soft bigotry of low expectations actually interesting how
50:06
these are back to back, but when you provide tokenism, that's where you're bringing somebody
50:10
into a fold that they didn't deserve to be there in the first place and you're only doing
50:13
that based on their immutable characteristics.
50:15
And so the most egregious example of this is unfortunately from one of my favorite people
50:19
on the planet to listen to or otherwise, and that's Matt Chandler.
50:22
So some of you know about this and you know where I'm going, but this was several years
50:25
ago.
50:26
I believe that this was an assortment.
50:27
I tried to find the sermon.
50:28
I wasn't able to find it, but you know, there were articles written about it and it's all
50:31
over the place.
50:32
But essentially Matt Chandler, he's taken on the racial reconciliation thing as one of
50:36
his big issues and more on that in a second.
50:38
But essentially what he did is he said if he was doing a church plant, okay, and he needed
50:43
to hire the best pastor, right to basically lead that church plant as part of, I think
50:48
he was still in the axe 29 network at that time, he might still be and he had two candidates
50:53
that were the final two candidates.
50:56
And there was a guy that was an eight out of eight out of 10 and another guy was a seven
51:00
out of 10.
51:01
And let's say the guy who was an eight out of 10 was a white guy and the guy that was
51:05
seven out of 10 was a black guy.
51:07
He said he would hire the black guy and Vodie Bockham who, you know, we'll talk about more
51:12
later in this podcast, Dr. Vodie Bockham, he eviscerated Matt Chandler for this and rightfully
51:17
so because he said that's tokenism and that's racist.
51:21
Why in the world would you risk part of your ministry or just from a business standpoint?
51:27
Why would you hire someone that's not the best person for the job and your only reasoning
51:33
is because of a characteristic that they cannot control their race, the color of their skin.
51:39
Why would you do that?
51:42
There are a lot of companies guys and we talked about universities a second ago.
51:44
There's a lot of companies have racial quotas now.
51:47
There's a lot of boards of directors that have said, okay, we need to have a certain number
51:50
of women on this board, certain number of women of color, some certain number of LGBTQ
51:54
people, whatever situation we'd be, how is that helping the bottom line of the company
51:58
overall?
51:59
It sure is making you feel good.
52:01
I mean, your hands going to be sore from pat and yourself on the back so hard, but at
52:04
the same time it's like, how does that help anyone?
52:07
And again, this is this idea that we should not be treating people based on their groups,
52:12
based on their immutable characteristics.
52:14
That's like saying, we're only going to hire tall people, only people out above six foot
52:17
four.
52:18
Well, what if they're six foot 10 and they're morons, but what do you do at that point?
52:24
Oh, well, we said we were going to hire this many tall people.
52:26
So I guess we'll just keep doing that.
52:28
It doesn't make sense, guys.
52:30
We can't operate that way.
52:31
So we should not participate in tokenism.
52:33
We should honor the best in every situation regardless of their immutable characteristics.
52:38
Next one here.
52:39
We should not excuse personal responsibility.
52:42
We should hold incredibly high standards for personal responsibility.
52:47
And so if you're tired of hearing me talk about this, let me go to a quote from someone
52:50
that you might have heard of before.
52:51
So Martin Luther King, Jr., he gave a speech or a sermon in 1961 in St. Louis.
52:56
And this is what he said, quote, Negroes are 10% of the city of St. Louis and are responsible
53:01
for 58% of its crimes.
53:03
We have to face that.
53:04
And we have to do something about our moral standards.
53:07
We know there are many things wrong with the white world, but there are many things wrong
53:11
in the black world too.
53:13
We can't keep blaming the white man.
53:15
There are things we must do ourselves, unquote.
53:19
So one thing that we see a lot in these types of situations, and again, this comes from
53:22
kind of the paternalistic instinct that I talked about earlier, is, you know what?
53:26
These people just, they can't do any better than what they're doing right now.
53:29
So I'm going to help them up because I'm white and I'm great and I'm really, really
53:34
smart and I'm super liberal.
53:35
So I'm going to help these people.
53:37
But in those types of situations, we're excusing personal responsibility for these people.
53:42
Because that's one thing that I find that's very interesting is you'll talk to these people
53:46
that are like, you know, what is a, is a black person that grows up in Baltimore?
53:50
What are they to do aside from dealing drugs?
53:54
What are they to do as aside from joining a gang?
53:57
There are no other options.
53:58
Well, guys, if that was actually true, then there would be a 100% crime rate in these
54:02
communities.
54:04
And there's not we have choices, all of us.
54:10
Some people, they were born and they woke up on third base.
54:14
That's just what their life is.
54:15
They're almost all the way home.
54:17
Some of us were not even out of the batter's box yet.
54:20
Some of us get the silver spoon.
54:21
Some of us don't get a spoon at all.
54:23
We're all dealt a different hand, but we all have the ability to choose unless you're
54:27
Sam Harris and you think we're dancing to our DNA or, you know, whatever that other
54:31
guys, I can't think of the four horsemen of atheism right now because I'm too fired up.
54:34
But in this type of situation, assuming that you believe in free will and autonomy and decision
54:40
making, personal decision making, how can you also not agree that personal responsibility
54:44
is important?
54:46
Because if you choose not to study for the exam, it doesn't matter how good or bad your
54:50
school is.
54:51
You're not going to learn that you're not going to do well in that exam.
54:55
If you don't put the time in in the weight room, you can't expect to be stronger come
54:59
next football season.
55:02
What kind of a football coach is going to say, Oh, you know what?
55:05
You didn't do any of the off season sprints.
55:06
You didn't do any of the two of days.
55:08
You didn't do the lifting program.
55:09
But you know what?
55:10
That's okay.
55:11
We're going to make you strong.
55:12
That doesn't work that way.
55:14
You have to put in the work as an individual.
55:16
So why in so many situations do we look at the individual as, as if they're the only
55:21
thing that can do something except when it comes to the issues that we're talking about
55:24
today, these people just can't help it.
55:27
They're a victim.
55:28
They're not ever going to be able to overcome or you can encourage people and teach them
55:31
how to make better decisions, which is usually easier when mom and dad are in the home.
55:37
So this idea that if we excused personal responsibility that we've done sort of favor
55:41
to somebody, that doesn't do them any favors because again, the other shoe drops, it always
55:46
will drop.
55:47
So we should not excuse personal responsibility.
55:48
We should hold incredibly high standards for all people in terms of personal responsibility.
55:54
Next one here.
55:55
We should not ignore instances of blatant racism.
55:59
We should not ignore instances of blatant racism.
56:02
We should stand and fight against every specific instance of racism that we encounter.
56:08
And I just encountered a doozy this week.
56:12
Oh my goodness.
56:13
So a lot of you guys have heard about this.
56:15
Many of you have not, but the, I can't even believe this.
56:18
It's so crazy.
56:19
I'm going to read the whole thing to you though.
56:21
The National Museum of African American History and Culture released a graphic that went viral,
56:26
just a graphic and you probably had never heard of the National Museum of African American
56:29
History and Culture before, but now you will have heard of them.
56:32
Basically they released a graphic that was titled this, the Aspects and Assumptions of
56:36
Whiteness and White Culture in the United States.
56:40
So I'm going to read this list to you.
56:42
Okay.
56:43
And I just want you to ask yourself this question as I read through this list.
56:46
And the only question is this.
56:47
Is this racist?
56:48
All right.
56:49
Maybe a secondary question.
56:51
Would David Duke agree with this?
56:52
If you don't know who David Duke is, crazy white supremacists, lunatic, probably shouldn't
56:56
be alive.
56:57
Okay.
56:58
David Duke, if he would agree with this and also ask yourself, is this racist?
57:02
So I'm just going to read this.
57:03
This is a description of what whiteness is and white culture, okay?
57:08
So I'm just going to read basically the little description here and then we're going to get
57:11
into the list.
57:12
White dominant culture or whiteness.
57:14
So whiteness is white dominant culture refers to the ways white people and their traditions,
57:19
attitudes and ways of life have been normalized over time and are now considered standard
57:23
practices in the United States.
57:25
And since white people still hold most of the institutional power in America, we have all
57:29
internalized some aspects of white culture, including people of color.
57:33
So basically the list I'm about to read you according to the National Museum of African-American
57:37
History and Culture.
57:39
These are things that if they are part of who you are, these are negative because they
57:43
come from whiteness, which is the basically the institutional power in America that should
57:48
be torn down.
57:49
Great.
57:50
So let's get into the list.
57:51
First thing, rugged individualism.
57:53
The individual is the primary unit.
57:55
Cultural for Alliance independence and autonomy is highly valued and rewarded individuals
57:59
soon to be in control of their environment.
58:01
You get what you deserve.
58:03
That's whiteness.
58:04
Family structure.
58:05
So basically the nuclear family father, mother, 2.3 children is the ideal social unit.
58:10
Husband is breadwinner and head of household.
58:11
Wife is homemaker and subordinate to the husband.
58:13
Children should have own rooms be independent.
58:15
That is whiteness.
58:16
That's family structure emphasis on the scientific method, even sciences, racist objective, rational,
58:22
linear thinking is a white thing cause and effect relationships and quantitative emphasis.
58:27
That's whiteness.
58:28
That's emphasis on scientific method.
58:30
History is whiteness based on Northern European, uh, Northern European immigrants experience
58:36
in the United States, heavy focus on the British Empire and the primary, uh, or the primacy
58:40
of Western that's Greek and Roman and Judeo Christian traditions.
58:43
That's whiteness.
58:44
The next one is Protestant work ethic.
58:46
Didn't know that was a thing.
58:48
Hard work is the key to success work before play.
58:51
If you didn't meet your goals, you didn't work hard enough.
58:53
That's whiteness.
58:54
Next one here religion.
58:56
That's whiteness.
58:57
Christianity is the norm.
58:58
Anything other than Judeo Christian tradition is foreign and no tolerance for deviation from
59:02
a single God concept.
59:03
So that's whiteness next one here status, power and authority wealth equals worth.
59:08
That's a white thing.
59:09
Your job is who you are respecting authority, heavy value and ownership of goods, space
59:14
and property.
59:15
That's whiteness.
59:16
Future orientation is whiteness.
59:18
And for the future, delayed gratification, progress is always best and tomorrow will
59:22
be better.
59:23
That's whiteness.
59:24
Time is whiteness or racist.
59:25
I guess you could say if you follow a rigid time schedule or time is viewed as a commodity.
59:31
That's whiteness.
59:32
The next thing is aesthetics based on European culture, stakes and potatoes, bland as best.
59:37
Women's beauty based on blonde, thin, you know, Barbie types, man attractiveness based
59:41
on economic status, power, intellect.
59:44
That's a, that's whiteness.
59:45
These are whiteness based on Christian religions or based on white history and male leaders.
59:50
Justice is whiteness.
59:52
That's based on English common law, protect property and entitlements and intent counts.
59:56
The next thing is competition is whiteness.
59:59
So being number one, winning at all costs, the winner, loser dichotomy, action orientation,
1:00:04
master and control nature must always quote, do something unquote about the situation,
1:00:08
aggressiveness and extraversion decision making a majority rules.
1:00:11
That's when whites have power.
1:00:12
So that's all competition.
1:00:14
That's all whiteness.
1:00:15
One here, communication, the King's English rules.
1:00:18
That's whiteness.
1:00:19
Written tradition, avoiding conflict or intimacy, not showing emotions, not discussing personal
1:00:24
life and being polite.
1:00:26
Those are all whiteness.
1:00:27
So to recap from the national museum of African American history and culture, the aspects
1:00:32
and assumptions of whiteness and white culture are rugged individualism, family structure,
1:00:37
emphasis on the scientific method, history, Protestant work ethic, religion, status power
1:00:41
and authority, future orientation, time, aesthetics, holidays, justice, competition and communication.
1:00:48
Now, thank you for indulging me as I read through that entire thing.
1:00:52
Let's go back to the two questions I made sure you asked yourself.
1:00:55
Is this racist?
1:00:57
I'm pretty sure it's racist, pretty sure it's crazy racist.
1:01:02
And that's basically because of the answer to the second question, which is, would David
1:01:05
Duke like that?
1:01:07
I guarantee you, this is the only thing that David Duke has ever in his entire life printed
1:01:13
off from the website of the national museum of African American history and culture and
1:01:17
put on his own wall.
1:01:18
He may have even framed this because he agrees with this because he doesn't think people
1:01:22
of color are capable of those things.
1:01:25
But think about how insane that is.
1:01:28
This got such bad backlash even in our current culture that the national museum of African
1:01:33
American history and culture had to take it down.
1:01:35
I'm glad it took a screenshot of it before they took it off their website.
1:01:39
But that is a blatant example of racism.
1:01:43
And everyone should be able to agree with that.
1:01:45
If any one of you posted that on your Facebook because you thought it was a good thing, you're
1:01:48
a moron, right?
1:01:50
Or you're a racist or both.
1:01:53
But the thing about it is, and all kind of, you know, move away from this graphic thing,
1:01:57
is when we do see a specific instance of racism, as men of God, we should be the first ones
1:02:02
to stand up.
1:02:03
That's why I agree with what Ben Shapiro says is if you can show me a law that is racist
1:02:07
and intent, or you can show me an actual instance of a hate crime or something like that, I
1:02:11
will stand beside you as you fight against that.
1:02:14
You know, it's my duty bound as a Christian to do such a thing.
1:02:19
Because whenever you do a racist act against somebody, you're violating the Amago day.
1:02:24
That's just the reality of it.
1:02:27
But the thing is, is you have to point it out when it's racist, no matter who the one
1:02:32
perpetrating it is, and we shouldn't ignore it.
1:02:35
I think it's good wisdom for us as Christians to not just sit idly by and ignore things that
1:02:39
are happening.
1:02:40
There's a lot of Christians that ignore the fact that a million babies are slaughtered
1:02:43
in the womb every year.
1:02:44
I don't like that.
1:02:46
The same thing is I don't like when people do turn a blind eye to blatant instances of
1:02:49
racism.
1:02:50
And the thing is, is you can't do what aboutism.
1:02:52
If you see is something that's a blatant instance of racism, real racism, you can't
1:02:56
be like, well, what about all the times when it wasn't true?
1:02:59
You can't lean on that crutch because every situation is different.
1:03:02
That's kind of the point of this whole podcast.
1:03:04
Situations are different and contextual and unique, and people are different and contextual
1:03:07
and unique.
1:03:08
They're not parts of groups.
1:03:10
Every situation should be met with a little bit of skepticism until you can wait for the
1:03:13
dust to settle.
1:03:14
So we should not ignore instances of blatant racism, guys.
1:03:17
We should stand and fight against every specific instance of racism that we encounter.
1:03:22
Next one here.
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We should not try to guarantee a quality of outcome.
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We should ensure that there is a quality of opportunity.
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Okay.
1:03:30
Not going to spend a lot of time on this one because a quality of outcome is something
1:03:34
that you can't do.
1:03:35
Like I said, some people wake up on third base, some people have a silver spoon, but the government's
1:03:39
job is to clear the playing field, not level it.
1:03:45
Because when you have individuals, there is no such thing as a quality of outcome.
1:03:49
You can't possibly do that unless you mandate it.
1:03:52
That's communism.
1:03:53
That's socialist.
1:03:54
You can't have that happen, guys.
1:03:57
It's not realistic.
1:03:59
Not everyone's not going to end up in the same place.
1:04:01
I'm not sitting around, you know, basically kicking weeds and being all, you know, naval
1:04:05
gazing because I'm not as tall, strong, athletic as LeBron James.
1:04:09
I'm not doing that.
1:04:12
So we're going to have different outcomes for our life, but I guarantee you there's
1:04:15
things that I do better than LeBron James.
1:04:17
Now he's probably not going to be too concerned about that, but at the same time, we can't
1:04:21
guarantee that and expecting the government to hop down and do that a silly.
1:04:25
We should not try to guarantee a quality of outcome.
1:04:27
We should ensure that there is a quality of opportunity.
1:04:30
Next one here.
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We should not be offended for people.
1:04:34
We should instead allow people to react however they decide to.
1:04:37
So I've seen a lot of this lately where people who are not part of the affected group, if
1:04:42
you would call it, I don't want to say quote unquote again, but the affected group, they're
1:04:46
not actually offended by it.
1:04:48
It's everybody else that's offended.
1:04:49
So the, the perfect example is the Washington Redskins.
1:04:52
So the Washington Redskins came out about a week ago and said that they're going to be
1:04:55
changing their, their team nickname after however many decades as that team, you know,
1:04:59
the Redskins are always kind of in the cross hairs anytime there's any racial unrest in
1:05:02
the United States because that name is racist.
1:05:04
And the thing about it is it's very interesting because every time this happens, there are
1:05:10
polling groups that go to Native American communities and ask them if they consider the
1:05:14
name Redskins to be racist.
1:05:15
And you know what's interesting?
1:05:18
Maybe 90 plus percent every time they're asked say that, no, not bother by it.
1:05:23
That's not racist.
1:05:25
90, 90 plus percent every time say that they're not offended by that.
1:05:29
And I wasn't able to guarantee that this was true or fact check this, but I'm pretty sure
1:05:33
the original logo, the Redskins logo was created by the name by a Native American, the tribe
1:05:39
I can't remember.
1:05:42
And so we all have all these white woke liberals that are coming out of the woodwork saying
1:05:47
this is racist.
1:05:48
We've got to change it.
1:05:50
And the Native Americans who are the ones that are supposed to be offended by this are
1:05:52
like, eh, not bothered by it play ball.
1:05:56
So again, guys, if you're trying to be offended for someone else and I have, I have people
1:06:00
that I know very, very closely there, they're, they go over the top with their reactions
1:06:04
to things because they think they're doing a favor to someone in their life that they
1:06:07
care about that that it should be affecting.
1:06:09
Right.
1:06:10
I know that's a little bit obtuse to say it that way, but guys, we shouldn't be offended
1:06:13
for people.
1:06:14
We should allow people to react however they decide to.
1:06:17
The next thing is that we should not be cold-hearted.
1:06:19
We should mourn with those who mourn.
1:06:21
Okay.
1:06:22
So Romans 1215, more with those who mourn.
1:06:24
I know that there are a lot of people that have kind of hardened their hearts in times
1:06:27
like these because it's really easy to do that because you see all of this negativity.
1:06:32
You see all this disintegration in the communities that we're in.
1:06:36
We see all of this, you know, just nonsense and ignorance and a lot of these different
1:06:39
subjects.
1:06:40
So it'd be very easy to be cold-hearted and you might miss out on an opportunity to be
1:06:44
there for somebody who is actually hurting, who is actually mourning and might need your
1:06:48
assistance and might need your help.
1:06:50
So we should not be cold-hearted.
1:06:51
We should mourn with those who mourn.
1:06:54
Next one here is we should not believe the claims of systemic racism blindly.
1:06:59
We should treat systemic racism as systemic racism theory.
1:07:05
So people just throw out systemic racism as if it's a reality.
1:07:07
As I've talked about in the first episode of this whole three part series is that it's
1:07:12
not.
1:07:13
Dynamic racism is not a thing in the United States in 2020.
1:07:16
We did have some systemic racism in the past and I talked about those at length.
1:07:19
We don't have that now.
1:07:21
So we can't just grant it the elevation of just being believed blindly.
1:07:30
It's a theory.
1:07:32
Now when you test the theory, it comes back particularly bad for those that are propagating
1:07:36
it, but treat it as a theory.
1:07:39
This is a theoretical way of looking at a particular subject.
1:07:42
So we should not believe the claims of systemic racism blindly.
1:07:45
We should treat systemic racism as systemic racism theory.
1:07:49
Next one.
1:07:50
We should not judge people by their actions on their worst day.
1:07:52
We should have grace for people concerning the race issue.
1:07:55
So this is not what I'm saying.
1:07:57
I'm not saying that we shouldn't call out racist for doing racist things.
1:08:03
That's not what I'm saying.
1:08:04
I'm not saying that, ah, you know, don't give that grand wizard to the KKK.
1:08:07
Such a hard time.
1:08:08
You know, he was just having a bad day.
1:08:10
That there are people that have done things in poor taste in the past.
1:08:14
And I don't think that they should be judged for their entire lives based on that.
1:08:17
You know, I talked about blackface and one of the episodes and no Jimmy Kimmel dressing
1:08:21
up as Carl Malone versus Jimmy Kimmel dressing up as Sambo.
1:08:24
Those are not the same things.
1:08:26
Little black Sambo that those aren't the same things.
1:08:28
That's blackface.
1:08:29
That's blatantly racist and meant to be racist, okay?
1:08:33
But you know, we'll talk about cancel culture here in a second, but we should have grace
1:08:36
for people on the racial issue.
1:08:38
There's a lot of ignorance and I didn't think I was going to tell the story, but I might
1:08:43
as well go ahead and do it because I was telling someone about the other day, but I'll leave
1:08:47
the person out.
1:08:48
But let's just call it a person that I know, okay?
1:08:50
This person that's a little bit older and they were in the army, okay?
1:08:53
They came from a very, very poor background.
1:08:57
They grew up so poor that they didn't really know what Christmas was until they were in
1:09:00
their teen years.
1:09:01
And that's not hyperbole.
1:09:02
That's just really what happened.
1:09:03
So this is a black person who grew up poor, gotten a lot of trouble and had to join the
1:09:07
army or go to jail and they chose the army.
1:09:10
Now this person was taking a shower.
1:09:12
They were at basic training and they're taking a shower and they're, you know, they're all
1:09:14
in the showers.
1:09:15
They're naked.
1:09:16
And he noticed that there's these two white guys that are watching him while he's bathing,
1:09:19
white showering.
1:09:20
So at first, he just thought, you know, maybe their eyes were wandering and then he realized
1:09:23
these guys were looking at him, right?
1:09:26
And so he finishes a shower, he puts his clothes on and then he goes up and he confronts these
1:09:31
two white guys.
1:09:32
You know, he was ready for a fight, right?
1:09:34
He looked at me, looking at me for you, sizing me up that type of thing.
1:09:37
He was ready for a fight.
1:09:38
That's what he was used to.
1:09:39
And those, those white guys were really, really embarrassed and they were like, man, we're
1:09:42
so sorry.
1:09:43
Like we, we didn't mean to stare at you.
1:09:44
And we're sorry to even admit this, but you're the first black person that we've ever met.
1:09:49
And we were taught growing up that black people had tales.
1:09:54
Yeah.
1:09:58
These dudes were 18, 19 years old and they grew up in a community that taught that black
1:10:04
people had tales.
1:10:06
And so when they saw a naked black person for the first time, they were looking at them
1:10:11
thinking themselves, well, where's the tail?
1:10:16
I mean, it's a horrific story.
1:10:17
I get when I've told people that in private situations, it's been, it's uncomfortable
1:10:22
to even say, but in those situations, if we treat what those men did as the unforgivable
1:10:28
sin, we're missing out on an opportunity to educate these people because you know what
1:10:32
ended up happening, you probably know how the story ends, they didn't fight.
1:10:36
They became friends, you know, the, the, my buddy who's the black guy in this situation,
1:10:41
he was shocked and appalled and offended.
1:10:44
And then he got over it and he just said, God, these dumb, dumb white boys.
1:10:50
And then they became friends and these white people got an education on what it is to befriend
1:10:55
a black person in America because they had gone almost two decades without doing that.
1:11:01
And so I would think it would be horrific to treat those two guys as just products of
1:11:06
their environment because they were just blatantly ignorant.
1:11:10
They weren't being racist or I guess they were being racist, but they didn't know it
1:11:13
because they were so ignorant.
1:11:15
I mean, can you imagine growing up for 18 or 19 years, never having seen a black person
1:11:20
except on television and having probably someone in his family tell them, Oh, yeah, black people
1:11:24
just have tales.
1:11:25
They're pretty much monkeys.
1:11:26
These horrific things that people have said, how would you know to know any different?
1:11:32
These people didn't grow up in the age of the internet.
1:11:34
They couldn't just research it real quick.
1:11:36
And you just say that in biology class in 10th grade, Hey, I heard black people had tails.
1:11:41
Is that true?
1:11:42
Mr. So and so like you can't do that.
1:11:44
But can you imagine judging them based on that one instance?
1:11:49
So I think we should have a lot of grace with people around the race issue because you have
1:11:52
to ask yourself, is is racism an unforgivable sin?
1:11:57
Because I personally don't think it is.
1:11:59
Because if you think that racism is an unforgivable sin, then you don't believe in the totality
1:12:03
of the power of God.
1:12:04
I don't think you want to open that can of worms.
1:12:07
So we should not judge people by their actions on their worst day.
1:12:10
We should have grace for people concerning the race issue.
1:12:13
Next one here.
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We should not act as if saying black lives matter is neutral.
1:12:17
We should educate people on the ideal ideologies of that organization.
1:12:20
I'm not going to go into that any further, go to the last episode.
1:12:23
I break that down in great detail, but the NBA putting black lives matter on jerseys
1:12:27
and black lives matter on the court.
1:12:29
That is not a neutral saying that is a description of a Marxist ideology coming from a specific
1:12:33
organization.
1:12:34
We can't do that.
1:12:35
We should not act as if saying black lives matter is neutral.
1:12:38
We should educate people on the ideologies of that organization.
1:12:41
Next thing.
1:12:42
We should not grant cancel culture any power.
1:12:45
We should steal our nerves and that's steal S T E E L. A lot of people are being canceled
1:12:49
now.
1:12:50
I've kind of joked about it at the top of the last two episodes about, Hey, I'm still here.
1:12:52
I haven't been canceled, but a lot of people they're, they're pulling up tweets from their
1:12:56
past.
1:12:57
So they're pulling up off color comments or pulling up these types of things and they're
1:12:59
trying to cancel these people.
1:13:00
They're trying to get rid of them.
1:13:02
And most part, and again, second time mentioning Jordan Peterson, but Jordan Peterson is a guy
1:13:06
that, you know, if he sneezes, it becomes front page news on the New York Times and
1:13:10
is, is he perpetrating white power and because he sneezes and is this where the culture is
1:13:15
headed with white male cisgendered people, you know, whatever the situation might be.
1:13:19
But he basically says that every time he gets caught up in one of these usually faux outrages
1:13:23
from people, is he just basically steals his nerves, spends the next two weeks, kind of
1:13:28
just letting everything die down and then he moves on with his life.
1:13:32
He might be on Twitter less than those two weeks.
1:13:34
He might check his email a little bit less those two weeks, but then he just moves on
1:13:37
with his life.
1:13:38
So the thing about cancel culture is it only has power if you, if you let it now, if you're
1:13:43
a Hollywood actor or actress listening to this right now and you're a conservative and
1:13:47
you're anti black lives matter, the organization and all these different things.
1:13:51
And you say that out loud, you can't also assume at the same time you're still going
1:13:55
to get those A list movies.
1:13:57
Again, if you're in college and all of your professors are wildly left and you want to
1:14:02
sit there and you want to argue for principles from conservatism and the ride and Christianity
1:14:07
and whether the situation may be, you can't also assume that you're going to get straight
1:14:10
A's.
1:14:11
There's going to be some sort of a, some sort of a backlash there, but cancel culture is
1:14:15
only as powerful as you allow it to be so we should not grant cancel culture any power.
1:14:19
We should just steal our nerves.
1:14:21
Next one here.
1:14:22
We should not pretend that art doesn't negatively impact the issue of race in America.
1:14:27
We should be incredibly careful about what we consume and whether or not we believe it
1:14:31
outright.
1:14:32
I'm specifically talking about rap music.
1:14:34
Okay.
1:14:35
So I am a fan of rap music.
1:14:37
I grew up in a town where there was a lot of rap music made.
1:14:39
A lot of my friends were rappers, whatever situation may be there.
1:14:43
But to sit here and pretend that the content of rap music has no impact on black culture
1:14:50
or black children in America is silly because when you have guys referring to cops as pigs
1:14:58
and saying that they should be killed and you're a 12 year old, maybe that's going to
1:15:02
have an impact on you if you're here a guy referred to women as [inaudible] and hoes in their
1:15:10
music and you're a 14 year old boy and you're just starting to explore dating with girls
1:15:15
and stuff like that.
1:15:16
You don't think that has an impact the violence that's described in a lot of rap music.
1:15:24
You don't think that has an impact on people.
1:15:27
So again, I know that's like the old timey white guy argument like, Oh, rap music.
1:15:30
That's the worst.
1:15:31
We need to get rid of all that.
1:15:32
I'm not saying we need to get rid of all that.
1:15:33
But some of these same guys that are making literal millions and millions of dollars with
1:15:37
this racist, violent, misogynistic, pro drug use, you know, anti Christian worldview and
1:15:43
those types of things, they can't also come out and say, Yeah, black lives matter.
1:15:47
We're fighting the system.
1:15:48
We're doing all these things.
1:15:49
It's like, bro, you're part of the destruction of the system.
1:15:51
And I don't mean in the way that you think you're hurting black people with your music.
1:15:57
And here's the other thing.
1:15:58
I've seen some concerts where, you know, there it sees rappers on stage and the audience
1:16:02
is, you know, 90% white and they're singing along with the lyrics of a song that has the
1:16:07
inward in it.
1:16:08
And then they have the audacity to be offended.
1:16:13
These rappers are teaching suburban white kids to use the inward and they're offended
1:16:18
and appalled when they see it right in front of their faces.
1:16:21
I find that incredibly interesting.
1:16:24
And the same thing goes for TV shows and movies and things like that when you're portraying
1:16:29
this lifestyle, right, this thug life lifestyle and, you know, I'm not going to let the man
1:16:33
hold me down lifestyle and the only way that I know how to fight that is with violence that
1:16:37
has an impact.
1:16:38
So we should not pretend that art doesn't negatively impact the issue of race in America.
1:16:42
We should be incredibly careful about what we consume and whether or not we believe it
1:16:46
outright.
1:16:47
Next one here, we should not wait on our pastors to tell us what to do or how to act.
1:16:53
We should let God guide us.
1:16:55
And this goes back to the thing I said from the top guys.
1:16:57
I'm talking to a lot of guys about this issue and their pastors aren't.
1:17:01
Why aren't they?
1:17:03
Why aren't they talking about this issue?
1:17:06
Why are they staying on whatever biblical series, not that that series isn't important?
1:17:11
Why aren't they talking about this?
1:17:13
Because to the pastors listening to this, your flocks are confused.
1:17:17
Your flocks are coming to me.
1:17:19
I don't have my MDiv.
1:17:20
Like I haven't read the Bible as much as you have, but I'm letting God guide me through
1:17:26
these discussions because I feel like I told you from the first episode, I was never going
1:17:30
to talk about race on this podcast.
1:17:33
It was too hot of an issue six months ago when nothing was going on.
1:17:36
And now it's, it's still red hot in the wake of the George Floyd killing.
1:17:41
But there are guys literally waiting around for their pastor.
1:17:44
Maybe this Sunday he'll talk about it.
1:17:46
Ah, you know, maybe I'll call him next week.
1:17:48
Maybe we can grab coffee and we can talk through this.
1:17:52
But guys, we shouldn't wait on our pastors to tell us what to do or how to act.
1:17:55
We should let God guide us.
1:17:57
He's the ultimate guide anyway.
1:17:59
And the next one here is related to it.
1:18:00
We should not allow Marxism to infiltrate our churches.
1:18:05
We should call out our pastors and encourage them to be steadfast in the face of societal
1:18:09
pressure.
1:18:10
Kind of going back to the Matt Chandler situation from earlier, the thing about Matt Chandler,
1:18:14
and I hate this with that he does this on this subject, but he is basically creating
1:18:20
a straw man of anybody that is challenging him on this issue.
1:18:25
He basically calls out his church and calls out anybody that criticizes him when he talks
1:18:29
about racial reconciliation, basically calling them racist.
1:18:34
Like basically, if you don't think the same way that I do exactly on this particular issue
1:18:38
and how we're supposed to move forward, you're a racist and you need to search your heart
1:18:41
and you need God to do a work in you.
1:18:43
That's his, that's his mindset.
1:18:44
And again, I love everything that Matt Chandler has basically said and done except for this
1:18:48
issue.
1:18:49
But what Matt Chandler doesn't realize is he has allowed Marxism to be smuggled in to
1:18:54
his church and it is ideology and theology, really.
1:19:00
There's this whole woke church movement that he's co-signing.
1:19:02
Eric Mason is, you know, I think he literally wrote the book called woke church, but the
1:19:06
thing that the thing about it is is as the flock, we've got to be able to point out to
1:19:11
our pastors when they're doing this type of thing and that is dangerous.
1:19:15
And you go to a pastor like Matt Chandler and you say, great, here are the things that
1:19:18
you just said.
1:19:19
Here are the things that Karl Marx said in the communist manifesto.
1:19:22
Can you please show me the difference, sir?
1:19:25
Can you please show me the biblical basis for your argument and how it's different than
1:19:29
what I'm seeing in the communist manifesto?
1:19:32
Can you show me the difference?
1:19:34
Because guys, if we don't fight against it, our pastors are just going to continue operating.
1:19:38
Again, a tribute to ignorance, what you can't attribute to malice, don't assume that they're
1:19:42
doing it on purpose.
1:19:43
Matt Chandler is doing it on purpose now, but some of the guys that are saying these things,
1:19:47
they think they're well-meaning.
1:19:48
Some of these pastors that are talking about this issue that are taking a very soft stance
1:19:51
in making a very, very postmodern argument for something that shouldn't be postmodern,
1:19:55
we've got to be able to call that out.
1:19:58
So we should not allow Marxism to infiltrate our churches.
1:20:00
We should call out our pastors and encourage them to be steadfast in the face of societal
1:20:04
pressure.
1:20:05
Next thing here, I think we only got a few left.
1:20:07
We should not depend on earthly justice.
1:20:10
We should depend on perfect justice.
1:20:14
Here's the thing guys, this postmodern intersectionality, Marxism, this is all pagan justice.
1:20:23
You have to have the social justice movement be based on something other than the justice
1:20:28
of God.
1:20:29
And it is, because when you look at the Black Lives Matter website, you look at their rallies,
1:20:33
do you hear anything that even vaguely resembles the gospel?
1:20:36
Do you hear anything?
1:20:37
And the thing about it is, is when you have a pagan, naturalist, materialist, atheistic
1:20:43
worldview, you have to have justice on this planet, because there is no cosmic justice.
1:20:49
Talked about this before, there's no cosmic justice in the atheistic worldview.
1:20:54
You have to take justice.
1:20:55
Vengeance is yours, not gods.
1:20:58
But for you guys, depend on earthly justice, whether you're being directly affected by
1:21:03
the issues that are going on right now, or you're just watching on the sidelines, we
1:21:06
should not depend on earthly justice.
1:21:07
We should depend on perfect justice.
1:21:10
And guys, I think this is the last one here.
1:21:11
Yeah.
1:21:12
Last one here.
1:21:13
We should not side with what the world thinks is right.
1:21:17
We should rest on the unchanging ever present gospel.
1:21:23
So I've got some reminders for you, and you might want to go back and listen to this section
1:21:27
over and over again, because these are good reminders.
1:21:29
Here's one.
1:21:31
He was pierced for our transgressions.
1:21:33
He was crushed for our iniquities.
1:21:35
The punishment that brought us peace was upon him and by his wounds, we are healed.
1:21:39
That's Isaiah 53 five.
1:21:42
For even the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve and give his life as
1:21:46
a ransom for many.
1:21:48
That's Mark 1045.
1:21:50
God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son that whoever believes in him
1:21:53
should not perish, but have eternal life, John 3 16.
1:21:57
All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of
1:22:02
sins through his name, Acts 10, 43.
1:22:06
He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.
1:22:10
Romans 4 25, but God demonstrates his own love for us in this while we were still sinners.
1:22:17
Christ died for us.
1:22:19
Romans 5 eight guys, if you think the gospel isn't enough, if you think the good news of
1:22:27
Jesus and his sacrifice for us isn't enough.
1:22:32
If you think that it's the gospel plus something else, if it's the gospel plus critical race
1:22:39
theory, the gospel plus intersectionality, the gospel plus postmodernism, the gospel
1:22:44
plus Karl Marx, the gospel, plus this stack of woke books, I got news for you.
1:22:51
You're going to be let down and you're going to have a very muddy and muddled worldview.
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And, and I don't know how to encourage you in any other way other than we know how the
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story ends.
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We know the path to salvation.
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We know that Jesus died specifically for us.
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He died for all sinners of all shapes, sizes and races.
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Why can't you rest in that?
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If you somehow have disagreed with most of what I've said and still made it this far
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into the podcast, what else are you resting on?
1:23:30
What are you adding to this?
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Because nothing needs to be added, guys.
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We should not side with what the world thinks is right.
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We should rest on the unchanging ever present gospel.
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Well, guys, there's your three part series.
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I don't know if, if I'll ever do another three part series.
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This only second time I've done a series of any kind, but there you go.
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I did my best with it.
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I mean, if you're not satisfied with the last three episodes, maybe don't pass go.
1:23:57
Don't go pass episode 144 because I spent a lot of time thinking about this.
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A lot of time preparing these podcasts I've probably spent more time preparing these three
1:24:05
podcasts and any other three podcasts combined that I've ever done up to this point.
1:24:10
So that doesn't speak to the quality necessarily because that's in the eye, the beholder.
1:24:14
But guys, I did everything that I could to really wring out every last thought that I
1:24:19
had on this.
1:24:21
And I looked at a lot of materials.
1:24:22
I got a lot of other opinions and that I brought it to you in this way.
1:24:26
So it's the best I got.
1:24:27
I'm relieved that it's over with, but there you go.
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All right, guys, before we let you go, we're going to do a quick resilience boost.
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As you know, by now, we are a men's ministry and our mission is cultivating mainly resilience.
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Specifically, we do that by providing content that for just spiritual, mental and physical
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toughness.
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So for you today, I've got an incredible three part.
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It's not technically a three part sermon series, but it's three sermons back to back by the
1:24:48
same guy.
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Guys, this is the trilogy you need in your lives.
1:24:52
If you're a Lord of the Rings fan, John Wick or whatever trilogy you can think of, this
1:24:56
is the trilogy you need, okay?
1:24:58
These are all by Dr. Vody Bockam.
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He's one of my favorite pastors to listen to.
1:25:02
So the three episodes or these three talks that he gave were for a founder's ministry,
1:25:08
but he talked about ethnic Gnosticism, cultural Marxism and racial reconciliation.
1:25:12
He specifically focused on Ephesians two versus 10 and 11.
1:25:16
Those are incredible guys.
1:25:18
They're all an hour a piece.
1:25:20
I think the last two may be even a little bit over an hour.
1:25:22
It is so worth your time.
1:25:25
You have my permission to skip maybe the next few episodes of this podcast so that you can
1:25:28
go and listen to those.
1:25:30
It really informs a lot of the things that we talked about here in this three part series.
1:25:33
So Dr. Vody Bockam, ethnic Gnosticism, cultural Marxism, racial reconciliation.
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I've got the YouTube links for you here.
1:25:39
I've also got the statement on social justice and the gospel.
1:25:42
This was something that was really floating around a lot of the reform circles and those
1:25:46
types of things.
1:25:47
It's an interesting read.
1:25:48
And then I also have an article that I talked about earlier from the Heritage Foundation.
1:25:51
It's how welfare undermines marriage and what to do about it.
1:25:54
So that kind of undergird some of the things that we talked about there.
1:25:57
Guys thanks so much for listening to this podcast.
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of 2021.
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music library for our content.
1:26:46
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record entitled guardians.
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The links are in the description.
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I'm your host, Kyle Thompson.
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Remember, keep cultivating manly resilience, keep forging spiritual, mental and physical
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toughness.
1:27:02
Keep seeking the lion of Judah.
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Peace.