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095 – Changing American Values

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095 – Changing American Values
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American values are shifting, and it's not just a natural evolution; it's a forced change driven by cultural and political upheaval. This episode dives into a recent poll revealing the growing anger and dissatisfaction among Americans, particularly regarding patriotism, religion, and family values.
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In this episode, we look at the recent Wall Street Journal and NBC poll that focuses on the changing landscape of American values. What are the most important values of younger Americans, and how will that affect our country moving forward? Let’s get into it…

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- ‘A deep and boiling anger’: NBC/WSJ poll finds a pessimistic America despite current economic satisfaction

- The Briefing with Albert Mohler, Tuesday, August 27, 2019

- Birth rate in U.S. falls to lowest level in 32 years, CDC says

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0:31 This is Undaunted Life of Man's Podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.
0:45 All right guys from the jump here. I just got to be honest. I'm not much of an audio
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1:00 feedback just be comfortable with the fact that I will probably figure this out at some point but
1:06 I'm too stupid to do it before I record this episode. So launching into today's podcast called
1:12 Changing American Values. Changing American Values. I named this for a couple of different
1:18 reasons. The first thing is the obvious which is that values are changing in America. Americans
1:24 are changing their values the things that they hold dear in sacred right but the second reason is
1:30 because this change I feel like is being forced that there is a forced change that is causing
1:38 these American values to be shifted and I think we see evidence of both of those things in a recent
1:42 Wall Street Journal NBC poll that was released in the poll was done in August of 2019 but it was
1:49 basically looking at the different trends in terms of what's happening in the United States and how
1:54 people are viewing things from different backgrounds but more specifically different groups. So it
1:59 was looking at Gen Z. It was looking at Gen X millennials. I didn't exactly say that in order but you
2:06 know the youngest would be Gen Z and then we got me the millennials then we've got you know your
2:10 Gen X or you got your baby boomers you got stuff like that and kind of looked at a lot of the things
2:14 they're in. So what I want to do is I actually want to read from the NBC news.com report on this
2:19 poll and then I'm going to be coming kind of in and out on that to kind of give you my opinion and
2:24 on a few different things and it starts out pretty basic in a lot of different areas but then we
2:28 start getting into the meat of it down towards the end and if you are not driving and you can safely
2:33 do so you can go to the episodes the show notes in this episode rather and you can click on the link
2:38 and just follow along with me but here we go into the article. The political and cultural upheaval
2:42 of the last four years has divided the country on ever-hardening partisan and generational lines
2:47 but one filling unites Americans as much as it did before the 2016 election. They're still angry
2:54 and still unsettled about the future. The latest NBC news Wall Street Journal poll finds that despite
3:00 Americans overall satisfaction with the state of the US economy and their own personal finances
3:05 a majority say they are angry at the nation's political and financial establishment anxious
3:10 about its economic future and pessimistic about the country they're leaving for the next generation.
3:15 Four years ago we uncovered a deep and boiling anger across the country and
3:18 golfing our political system said Democratic pollster Jeff Horwit of heart research associates
3:23 which conducted this survey in partnership with the Republican firm Public Opinion Strategies.
3:28 Four years later with a very different political leader in place that anger remains at the same
3:32 level. The poll finds that 70% of Americans say they feel angry quote because of our political system
3:39 that that seems to only be working for the insiders with money and power like those on Wall Street
3:44 or in Washington unquote. 43% say that statement describes them very well. So I'm going to kind
3:50 of come out here real quick and just talk a little bit about that. So again 70% of Americans again
3:55 this is assuming that they are happy with where the economy is or happy with where their personal
4:00 finances are. They feel angry. That was the specific wording inside of this article was that they feel
4:06 angry about the political system because they feel like there are insiders with money and power
4:11 that are basically boxing them out. That is just basically only going well for Wall Street people
4:16 or Washington people. I mean that that's an overwhelming 70%. That's an overwhelming
4:21 percent of Americans that are just basically angry. I mean when I think about the people that are
4:26 angry about money and power and those types of things. I think about Bernie Sanders and it's kind
4:31 of crazy to me that 70% of the people out there in the United States think this way. The kind of
4:37 this victim mentality that because they have I must have not. I think that's kind of interesting.
4:44 But I mean there's so much to go into in this poll and so I don't want to get into
4:48 a diet tribe about Bernie Sanders and socialism and taking from people to give the other people
4:54 and all the things they're in. But that that's at the very least from the very jump got to be very
4:58 very unfortunate for you. And this same poll was taken about four years ago looks to be October
5:04 of 2015 kind of that same feel angry about our political system type of thing. And it's only gotten
5:10 worse since then. But it's not like insanely worse. But it's gotten a little bit percentage
5:15 points worse. Okay. But then there was another question that was asked and it was this or you
5:20 basically had to say how much you agreed with the statement that was given. And this one's
5:24 basically talking about anxiety and uncertainty. It says I feel anxious and uncertain because the
5:29 economy still feels rocky and unpredictable. So I worry. So that has actually dropped quite a bit.
5:35 That's dropped about six or seven points since the same time four years ago. And so people are
5:40 still feeling good about where they're at in their own potential, you know, economic standpoint.
5:46 But it still makes them overall feel a little bit crazy. And then the last one I want to go
5:50 into here before we go back in the article is just satisfaction overall. And so the statement
5:53 they wanted people to look at is I feel satisfied that our political system is being shaken up and
5:59 those who have been for too long have been too long are now being heard and put first. I think
6:05 they left a word out here in this ABC article. But it's essentially they like that things are
6:09 being shaken up and over 50% of the respondents this year in August of 2019 say they feel very
6:15 satisfied with the fact that the political system is seeing a little bit of unrest. Perhaps that'll
6:20 feed into some of the things we'll talk about later. But let's go back into the article here.
6:23 That's almost exactly the percentage that agreed with the statement in October of 2015
6:28 when the presidential election was being upended by the anti-establishment message
6:32 of then candidate Donald Trump. Republicans report feeling somewhat less angry than they were
6:37 almost four years ago. But that optimism has been offset by an uptick in anger from other groups
6:42 typically more aligned with the Democratic Party surprise price. In 2015 39% of Republicans and 43%
6:48 of Democrats said a feeling of anger at the political establishment defined them very well.
6:54 Now it's 29% of Republicans and 54% of Democrats a 10 point swing for each party in opposite directions.
7:00 That's actually pretty astonishing. Those who were more likely to say feelings of anger described
7:04 than very well since 2015 include women under 50 48% of 10 points since 2015 African Americans
7:12 46% of five points and Hispanics 49% up 11 points. The question that decides the 2020 election may
7:20 no longer be are you better or worse off than you were four years ago. But instead are you as angry
7:26 as you were four years ago said horrid and if that's the question the answer is a deafening yes.
7:32 So now we're going to get into some of the more anxiety about the future in basically
7:36 our good economic times. Okay, back to the article. While 69% of Americans say they are satisfied
7:42 with their overall financial situation today a majority 56% also say they feel anxious and uncertain
7:48 because the economy still feels rocky and unpredictable. That's down slightly from 61% in 2015. And just
7:55 27% of those surveyed say they're confident as their children's generation will be better often
8:00 than them down from 35% in August of 2017. That pessimism is reflected among all groups
8:06 regardless of age, race, income, and party identification. Majorities of adults who are under 35 that
8:13 68% seniors 64% poor and working class 71% high income 64% white 67% black 73% and Hispanic 64%
8:25 all say they are not confident not confident that their children's generation will be better off
8:30 among Republicans 54% say they're not confident while 64% of independence and 78% of Democrats
8:36 agree about half of Americans 52% say they do feel satisfied that the political system is being
8:42 shaken up. Although only one in five say that they feel very strongly about that. So let's talk
8:46 about this section here. This is unbelievably surprising to me because we're in just kind of
8:51 the latest generation of generations that should have it better than our parents. Okay. I mean,
8:57 if you just think about it, 100 years ago, people really didn't have refrigerators, right? I think
9:02 I was listening to Jordan Peterson here recently, he was just talking about abject poverty, poverty
9:07 has almost been eradicated entirely. And that's because of capitalism and the spread of wealth and
9:12 those types of things in places where they've tried to manufacture that via the government,
9:17 right? Places that have enacted a communist or socialistic government, they've actually
9:20 stemmed at the tide of that a little bit. It's actually gone considerably slower in some of
9:24 those countries. But that is very interesting to me that the overwhelming majority of people
9:28 regardless of their background, their race, their sex or their party affiliation, they feel like
9:34 that the kids are not going to be inheriting a better life and a better America than they have.
9:38 And so there's a few ways that you can break this down. One of the ways is you can think about it is
9:42 like, okay, well, things can't get much better. Now, I know people that are maybe on the political
9:48 left or on the democratic side of things, you know, it's always about progress, right? You hear
9:52 about progressives and those types of things. So I would doubt that they would co-sign that type of
9:56 a statement. But I wonder if people are looking around and going, you know what, we've reached the
10:00 pinnacle of how convenient things can be. We can literally have food delivered to our door. We can
10:06 literally fly somewhere else in the country. And then once we land, we can rent someone else's car
10:12 to drive around the city. And if we don't want to do that, we don't have to mess with the taxi,
10:16 we can just go to one of several different apps and get a driver that will pick us up and do all
10:20 these different things. You know what, I can have a box of meat delivered to my door once a month.
10:25 That keeps me with the amount of chicken and beef and everything that I need, you know,
10:29 butcher box or something like that. Everything's so convenient. I can get on Amazon and literally
10:33 order anything on the planet. I can order a car online by Carvana or something like that. It's
10:39 basically like a vending machine for cars. I'm wondering if people think that, okay, we can
10:44 probably continue to make things a little bit easier, but it's not going to be so much more
10:50 than what we have now. Phones will get better, televisions will get better, computers will get
10:54 better. All the technology as a whole will get better. But maybe we've reached that point where
10:58 it's not that we're going to have diminishing returns, but it's just like, man, there's not
11:01 much else that we can fix that. I mean, maybe that's the way people are thinking, because if I would
11:06 have been asked this, I would have said, you know, I think our kids are going to have it better.
11:10 Just because of the trajectory of history, it would make sense. Now if there's political unrest,
11:15 which I'm sure we'll get into here in a little bit, perhaps not. But at the very least, it's going
11:20 to be a more complicated lifestyle for our children, but they're going to have all these tools that
11:25 help them to focus on some of the larger issues. So again, I thought that that was very pessimistic
11:29 and very, very surprising when I was looking at the results. But let's go ahead and go back
11:33 into the article here and we're going to talk about unease about change. That's the next section.
11:38 Americans also express some ambivalence about changes in American society in the country becoming
11:43 more diverse and tolerant of different lifestyles, languages, cultures, and races. 40% call those
11:49 changes a step forward, while 14% call them a step backward. The remainder, 43%, say those
11:55 changes are some of both. 61% of Republicans and 44% of independents and 27% of Democrats expressed
12:01 those mixed feelings. I think it's a step forward in a way that people are becoming more aware of
12:06 the differences between them. But I think it's a step back when you bend over so much and become
12:10 politically correct that you take away a person's right to think or say how they feel, said one
12:16 suburban man from Hawaii who supported Trump in 2016. Immigration has brought richness and a
12:21 better quality of life to our people. But I think that it is often difficult for all of us to understand
12:26 one another and become a community as new people come into society, said a female Clinton voter
12:31 from New York. It's a difficult time and sometimes fraught process that sometimes takes time.
12:36 That poll also offers a glum view of race relations. 6 and 10 describe either a lot or some tension
12:43 between people of different races in their state. The same share, 60%, say that race relations in
12:49 the United States are bad, although that's down from 70% in 2017 and a high of 74% in the
12:55 summer of 2016. And more than a half, 56% say that race relations have gotten worse since Trump
13:02 became president. Another 33% say race relations have stayed the same while 10% say that they have
13:07 improved. So let's kind of come out and talk a little bit about that. There were a couple of
13:12 different things there. The first was just basically the mixed feelings that people are having with
13:17 the changing demographics of the United States. So what people on the right would say is, you know,
13:21 this is just basically how it goes. Perhaps that's, you know, you have a lot of people that were not
13:26 forcing to assimilate to some sort of an amalgamation of American culture. Then you will have people
13:31 in the political left that will just say anyone that says something like that is racist. Because
13:35 how dare you say that somebody should speak the given language of this country or something like
13:39 that. So you have people kind of fighting from both sides. But I think it is a fair assessment
13:43 whenever about 20 or what I forgot what it said right in here. But a good percentage of people
13:48 are a little bit afraid of the fact that things are changing and that they're not changing within
13:53 any particular purpose or direction. Because I don't think people are nearly as bothered by
13:57 change as they are bothered by change that will lead to something more negative. And so I've seen
14:02 a lot of people talk about how people that are immigrating here are not being encouraged even.
14:08 I'm not saying force, but they're not even being encouraged to learn how to speak English, which
14:12 that is the most popular language in this country. It's the official language of our country is
14:18 English. That doesn't mean that you can't speak other languages. Obviously, the more languages
14:22 you speak, the better. But if we don't have a common way to communicate, it does make things
14:26 different. And it does cause people to kind of go into their separate communities and not basically
14:32 become a part of the community writ large. And so I think those are things that are a little bit
14:36 interesting. So it's it's interesting to hear that people are responding honestly that there are
14:40 some concerns about that. And then you get into race relations, something that we haven't talked
14:44 a lot about here on this podcast, not for any particular reason, but it's not that surprising
14:48 that people think that there are race problems in the United States. But the thing that I feel
14:53 like is interesting here is kind of this unspoken undertone, which is that people think that race
14:59 relations can be fixed in the United States. And I think the biggest piece of evidence against that
15:06 is, okay, we had an African American or a part African American president for eight years in
15:12 Barack Obama. And people's attitudes on race relations actually devolved. They got worse.
15:18 They felt that America was a more racist place after eight years of Obama presidency.
15:25 So you have to ask yourself, like, how is that possible? How could that possibly happen that we
15:32 have this, this great glowing man come into the White House, this great unifiers or so we were
15:39 told. And yet people have a more sour impression of race relations. Because I think it's easy
15:44 that for a lot of people to kind of pick on Donald Trump, because he's been so clunky in some of
15:48 his language, especially with people that are aligned with the alt riot or white supremacy or
15:53 those types of things. But he has very definitively said that he is against those people. He's against
15:58 those ideologies. But the problem that I think that we're having is we're not getting a fair look
16:04 at race relations when we look anywhere outside of our or just our immediate community. Okay.
16:10 So I feel like for Edmund, Oklahoma, I can give you a pretty good idea of how race relations are
16:15 for Edmund, Oklahoma City. I feel like I can do a pretty good job of that. I feel like I've got
16:19 enough information. I've lived here long enough. I've interacted with enough different people where
16:23 I can kind of give you a sense of that. But what I can't give you a sense of is what race relations
16:28 are in a different community. And I can kind of extend that out for kind of where my wife's
16:33 family's from. And so South Central Oklahoma, where my family's from in Southwest Oklahoma,
16:37 I can kind of like parse that out and give you some details. But when we're looking at the country
16:42 as a whole, and we're trying to figure out what race relations look like, it's difficult to do so.
16:46 And so we rely on the media to do that for us or Twitter to do that for us, which is a dangerous
16:53 proposition. I'll know if y'all saw this, of course, this went under the radar and just about
16:57 every single news outlet that you might think of. But it was this memo that was leaked from
17:01 somebody over at the New York Times that basically admitted that for the entire first two years of
17:06 the Donald Trump presidency, the entire staff, essentially, of the New York Times, of the new
17:11 staff was basically fully sold out to the Trump Russia conspiracy. Like they give all their money
17:19 and all their attention and all their time to that. And this memo said that after it basically
17:23 came out that the Trump Russia stuff was a farce, it was basically made up. There was no there there.
17:28 They've completely shifted their tactic for 2020 again, because they would like to have a Democrat
17:34 elected to the Trump being a racist narrative. And so it's interesting. A lot of the pieces that
17:40 are coming out of the New York Times today are, or you know, just in general today, that they're
17:45 more race based type things. Anytime Trump says something that can even be misconstrued as racist
17:51 or ethnocentric or something like that, they jump all over it. And again, this is not me defending
17:56 Donald Trump. I mean, he said some ridiculous things and he probably believes way more ridiculous
18:00 things than he even admits out loud. But at the same time, it's like, is it any surprise that
18:05 people think race relations are worse when we have a gigantic majority of the mainstream media
18:11 trying to convince us that our president sitting in the White House is himself a white supremacist,
18:16 not just racist as if there was something worse than being a racist, but a white supremacist.
18:20 Someone that is really hoping that the white race can prevail over all of the races, which,
18:26 again, if he's a white supremacist, he's one of the worst white supremacists potentially out there,
18:30 because of the positives that are going on in the non white communities in the United States right
18:35 now, black and Hispanic unemployment rates are at the lowest they've ever been in this country.
18:39 There's a lot of statistics around that that would make it a little bit weird for somebody that was
18:44 so vehemently opposed to people that weren't white to have that level of success. That would be
18:49 really, really interesting. But this is going to be one thing that I want us to continue to look
18:53 at because I think the odds are pretty good that Donald Trump is not reelected next year.
18:58 I mean, again, I mean, the Democrats on the other side right now, it's like basically a bunch of
19:04 clowns competing for who can have the most ridiculous face paint and those types of things. I mean,
19:09 it's absolutely insane. Some of the things that they're saying and that they're doing. But I think
19:13 that Donald Trump is not doing what he needs to do in order to win some of those key purple states
19:17 that will allow him to retain the presidency. And I don't know that Democrats are going to let
19:21 there be another problem like they had last time where they have such an unpalatable candidate
19:26 that's Hillary Clinton that most people actually just sit at home and not go out and vote.
19:29 But regardless of who's in the White House next, this is the point I'm trying to make.
19:33 Whether it's Donald Trump leaving office in, you know, five years or leaving office next year or
19:39 whatever the thing might be, this is going to be an interesting thing to kind of keep an eye on
19:42 is where statistics about race relations go. Because if Kamala Harris goes into office,
19:48 the first female and another Black president goes into office, will things change? What about
19:52 Elizabeth Warren? What about the octogenarian socialist Bernie Sanders? What about Joe Biden,
19:58 who is who is loved by Black people, especially in the South? What does that look like when we look
20:03 at kind of the next wave of Republican candidates? I mean, are we going to have a Nikki Haley who is,
20:08 you know, a non-white American woman? Are we going to have like a den Crenshaw, a very typical
20:14 all American type guys are going to be Rubio coming back up who's got the Cuban heritage?
20:18 Like, what's it going to look like? And do we all look at race relations as if it's going to improve?
20:23 Again, I think it's a dubious proposition for us to assume that race relations will eventually
20:27 get to the point where we won't have that anymore. There was a Joe Rogan podcast episode a while
20:32 back. I can't even remember who he was talking to, but he was basically like, man, I just can't wait
20:36 until someday down the road when we don't have this anymore. We don't have that anymore. We don't
20:40 have racism anymore above. And you just kind of threw that in there as like a throwaway statement,
20:44 which was unbelievable to me that he said something so silly, but he is honestly a progressive at
20:51 his core. And he thinks that at some point, we're actually going to not have racism anymore. And this
20:57 is kind of par for the course for somebody that thinks that we're just highly evolved hairless
21:01 apes. You know, he's the type of guy that thinks that, you know, we can evolve. We can evolve to
21:05 where everyone is happy to where everyone is satisfied to where everyone has everything that they need,
21:10 because we're just highly evolved monkeys and monkeys just need more shiny things. And if we
21:14 can get shiny things and keep people from being mean to us, we should be fine. So this will be
21:19 something to keep an eye on. But let's go ahead and get back into the meat of this. And this is
21:23 going to be the big part of what we're talking about today with, which is the shifting values.
21:27 So the shifting values of Americans. And so this section here, I just want to go ahead and kind of
21:32 describe to you, because this is what most people were talking about whenever they were looking at
21:36 this poll data that they were looking at this and they wanted to kind of give us an idea of what
21:40 things would look like. So I'm going to go and describe to you. And it's in two different categories.
21:45 So you have millennials and Gen Z in one category. And so that's people that are between the age
21:49 of 18 and 38 right now. And then you've got boomers and the silent generation. So those are the
21:55 people that are ages, you know, 55 to 91. Okay, so I'll just basically sum it up as, you know,
22:01 millennials, Gen Z and boomers. Okay. So we're going to be looking at a bunch of different categories
22:06 and what those groups think about when it comes to saying these subjects are very important. So
22:11 the first one is patriotism. So only about 40% of millennials and Gen Z think that patriotism
22:18 is very important. Whereas almost 80% of boomers think that patriotism is important. Okay, belief in
22:25 God, millennials and Gen Z, it's about 30% believe that it's very important. Whereas with boomers,
22:32 it's more like 70%. Having children, millennials and Gen Z, it's about 35%. Whereas for boomers,
22:40 it's more like 55%. In terms of hard work, millennials and Gen Z and boomers alike are kind of in that
22:48 80 to 90 range of thinking that hard work is very important. Financial security, it's almost
22:54 exactly the same for millennials, Gen Z and boomers that they're around that 80% mark. In terms of
23:00 tolerance for others, it's essentially the same, just over the 80% mark for all groups. And then
23:06 self fulfillment, you have boomers actually slightly below that, they're about 55% think
23:13 it's very important. Whereas around 65 or 70% of millennials and Gen Z think it's very important.
23:19 Okay. Now I know that's a lot of information there, but I'm going to go ahead and do that same
23:23 exact lineup with Democrats and Republicans. And this is where it gets really interesting,
23:28 because in the first three categories, patriotism, belief in God and having children,
23:32 we have almost the same breakdown as we did with millennials, Gen Z and then the boomers,
23:37 as with Democrats and Republicans. So with patriotism, just over 40% of Democrats think that
23:42 patriotism is very important. Whereas over 80% Republicans think it's very important,
23:47 belief in God, less than 40% of Democrats think that's important, whereas 70% of Republicans think
23:52 it's important. Having children about 35% of Democrats think that that's important. Whereas
23:58 about 55% of Republicans think that that's an important thing. And then with hard work,
24:02 they're both pretty high up there. Democrats are a little bit lower than Republicans on that.
24:06 Financial security is almost the same tolerance for others. About 70% of Republicans think that's
24:12 important. We're almost 95% of Democrats think that is important. It's kind of like
24:16 their big thing is you have to be tolerant, even if you have to be intolerant to get there.
24:20 And self fulfillment was about the same, you know, 60 to 70% for both groups. So there's a lot
24:25 to talk about there. And there's a lot kind of in the margin for error. But what I want to go
24:29 ahead and do is I would just want to read these last few sentences of the article. And then we'll
24:32 start breaking down this last piece, which is really the biggest piece here. So nearly nine
24:37 in 10 Americans, that's 89% identify hard work as very important value, even higher than the 83%
24:43 who said the same thing in the 1998 NBC Wall Street Journal poll. But those who say that
24:48 patriotism is very important slid from 70% two decades ago to 61% now. The share citing religion
24:54 decreased even more from 62% in 1998 to 48% now. Those changes come amid a start generational
25:02 divide over which values are seen as most important. Among those who are either millennials or
25:06 Generation Z ages 18 to 38, only 42% rate patriotism as very important value, while 79% of those over
25:13 55 say the same. Just 30% of the younger groups cite religion or belief in God is very important,
25:19 while 67% of the older group does. And just 32% of those under the age of 38, 38 years old call
25:25 having children very important, while 54% of those over 55 agree. There is an emerging America where
25:32 issues like children, religion and patriotism are far less important said Republican pollster Bill
25:36 Mick, Mick. Whoa, whoa, what's that name? Mick intro. All right, Bill Mick intro. So hopefully
25:42 that's the last time I have to say that of the public opinion strategies. And in America,
25:46 it's the emerging generation that calls the shots about where the country's headed. So the thing
25:52 about this is there's a lot to discuss here. But I thought that Albert Mueller did a great job on
25:56 his podcast. So if you're not listening to the Albert Mueller podcast, it's podcast, it's called
26:00 The Briefing with Albert Mueller. So it's Christian news and events or it's news and events from a
26:05 Christian worldview. So that's kind of the overall thing. It's Monday through Friday. Albert Mueller
26:10 is a big time Baptist Southern Baptist convention guy. And you know, he basically just releases
26:15 episodes with the the date and time. And so if you go back to his Tuesday, August 27th of 2019
26:22 episode, he basically talks a lot about this in here. But his overall summary is the one that I
26:26 agree with. It's that basically the next generation of Americans is less patriotic, less religious,
26:33 and we will be less populated. So the less patriotic and less religious thing, I think is
26:38 important. But I wanted to kind of focus a little bit on the less populated part.
26:42 So there's a lot of information that's been released here recently, and it's kind of gone on deaf ears
26:46 about the birth rate in the United States. And so there's another article I found on NBC News. That's
26:51 a short one that I want to read to you that kind of gives you an idea of of what this could potentially
26:55 mean for us. Okay, so the name of the article is birth rate in the US falls to lowest level in 32
27:00 years. CDC says, let me go and read this article to you here and we'll get back into breaking down
27:05 the poll. The number of babies born in the US in 2018 fell to the lowest level in 32 years,
27:11 according to a government report released Wednesday. The numbers are part of a decades long trend
27:16 towards fewer and fewer babies being born each year, which means we're getting further away
27:20 from the possibility of having enough children to replace ourselves according to the report from
27:25 the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The majority finding is that the fertility rates
27:29 are reaching record lows, said the reports lead author Brady Hamilton, a statistician and demographer
27:34 at the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics. There have been record lows in the teenage birth
27:39 rate, which fell 7% compared to 2017. Hamilton and his colleagues found that the
27:45 total number of births in 2018 at 3,788,235 was down 2% from 2017. The general fertility rate for
27:55 2018 was 59 births per 1000 women aged 15 to 44, another record low for the US. For perspective,
28:03 it's lower than in the years after the Great Depression. In 1936, for example, the general
28:08 fertility rate was 75.6. More telling, perhaps, is the drop in the total fertility rate,
28:14 which also fell 2% compared to the 2017 figures, to 1728 births per 1000 women of childbearing age.
28:22 For the nation's population to reproduce itself at current numbers and remain stable,
28:26 the total fertility rate would need to be at least 2100 births per 1000 women.
28:31 So, essentially, for the population to remain stable, each woman needs to have at least
28:36 two babies. At 2000, there would be enough children to replace fathers and mothers.
28:41 The extra 100 is to account for deaths. Now we're going to talk a little bit about team births at
28:46 record low. The CDC research doesn't explain why birth rates are declining, Hamilton says.
28:51 There was some good news in the new report. Pure babies are being born to teens. In fact,
28:56 these are record lows for teenage birth rates, Hamilton said. This year's rate is 7% lower
29:01 than in 2017. Overall, the report finds that younger women are having fewer babies,
29:06 with the only demographic seeing an increase in birth rates as women in their late 30s and early
29:10 40s. The pattern seen in the US echoes what's been happening in many developed countries,
29:15 said Dr. John W. Rowe, a professor at Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health.
29:20 For comparison, the total fertility rate in Europe is 1.58. In southern Europe, meaning Spain and
29:26 Italy, it's 1.3 and in Japan, it's 1.44, Rowe said, so it's not unprecedented. There are some
29:32 serious implications that could result from the declining birth rates, Rowe said. Long-term,
29:36 it means that we're going to have an increasing proportion of older people, he said.
29:40 Older projections about what the percent of the population will be elderly in 5, 10, 20 years from
29:46 now were made with the assumption that the birth rate would be stable. The lower birth rate will
29:50 have significant impact on the labor force, Rowe said. Now we're going to talk about delaying
29:54 marriage and childbirth. Japan, in particular, is having issues related to declining birth rates
29:59 because of its immigration policies, Rowe said. "They don't have an adequate workforce to take
30:03 care of the very large elderly population," he explained. "It's a real challenge for them."
30:07 Studies have shown that women are delaying both marriage and childbirth,
30:11 said Donna Strobino, professor and chair of education population family, and reproductive
30:15 health at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. "We're clearly in the throes
30:20 of a major societal change with regard to women getting married and choosing to have children,"
30:24 she said. "There's no question that part of the explanation for that is economic.
30:28 It's very expensive to raise children these days, and in part, it's social. All the changes
30:33 in women's roles." Still, there are hints in the new report that the current trend
30:39 could be at least partially reverse itself. "Let me just do that whole sentence again."
30:43 Still, there are hints in the new report that the current trend could at least partially reverse
30:47 itself," said Strobino. "It's perhaps not as gloom and doom as some think it is," Strobino said.
30:52 She points to an increase in the number of babies being born to women in their late 30s and early
30:56 40s, which she sees as a possible sign that the fertility rate could recover eventually.
31:01 It's possible that women who have been postponing pregnancy may have the babies they were planning
31:06 to have, and that could reverse the trend. "Maybe," says Dr. Helen Kim, but maybe not.
31:11 "As a fertility specialist, I worry that delaying childbearing will result in more fertility problems,"
31:16 said Kim, an associate professor at Northwestern University of Feinberg School of Medicine.
31:20 "Fertility particularly women's fertility declines with age. I've seen numerous couples who have
31:26 waited too long," said Kim. "Some have been married for more than 10 years before they think about
31:30 having kids. There have been many advances in fertility treatment, but there is still no treatment
31:34 for reproductive aging." And so, those are kind of the two articles I wanted to go through, but
31:39 now I want to kind of get into kind of breaking that down because I feel like that article did
31:42 a really good job of giving you an idea of where we're going because again, I agree with Albert
31:46 Mueller that the next generation, at the very least the next generation, but certainly subsequent
31:50 generations, they seem like they're going to be less patriotic, less religious, and that we are
31:55 going to have trouble with population. And the thing about it is when you look at this and you start
32:01 looking at deeper details within a poll like this, is you see people that are parents. Parents
32:07 tend to be more patriotic, more religious, more conservative, and once procreate, I mean,
32:12 duh, I mean, they're their parents. But the huge thing and of all the things that we've talked about
32:16 so far, perhaps the big takeaway should be this, it's that parents, people that have children,
32:21 people that have procreated, they are deeply invested in the health of society moving forward,
32:27 deeply invested. These are people that want to make sure that the next generation is better off
32:35 than they were. And so, we've seen this with every successive generation looking backwards,
32:40 that they've always had kind of had that forward thinking approach. But we live in an era now where,
32:46 you know, for some people, it seems absolutely insane that you would even want to be a parent.
32:51 I know several couples that don't want children. They're the same age as my wife and I, and in just
32:55 the thought of having children that it's like, yeah, no, why would I want to do that? Like,
32:59 we make what we make right now, I couldn't imagine spending, you know, what it costs to get a kid
33:04 from the age of born to the age of 18 without paying for a car, without paying for college funding,
33:08 without paying for, you know, K through 12 private school, it's about $300,000 per kid.
33:12 Like, and I get it. So they're like, what, you want me to have two or three of those,
33:16 and we spend a million dollars just to raise a human being to feed them and clothe them
33:20 and get them into the activities that they want to be into. So it's really interesting. And so,
33:24 whenever I kind of pull myself out from this a little bit, I want to look at what's to blame.
33:28 Okay. So, so what would be to blame for these poll numbers that we saw? And so there's a few
33:33 different things that I looked at. The first thing I think is the easy one, which is the political
33:37 left. Okay. People that are on the political left, they are pushing society in a certain direction.
33:42 And the subsequent generations are not becoming more conservative. They're becoming more progressive
33:47 and progressive, progressiveism leans more leftward. Okay. And so the thing about it that you can say
33:53 that this is a really easy one is because can you name any major politician on the right that
33:58 doesn't want us to be more patriotic or more religious or to have kids or those types of things.
34:04 Those aren't really things that you hear from people that are on the political right.
34:09 Certainly not the first two. I mean, you could not survive in this country as a red candidate
34:13 and say that you don't want us to be patriotic to say that this country is awful, that we're racist,
34:18 that we're horrible, that, you know, we need to be more like this country or that country or any
34:22 of those types of things. The interesting thing about people on the other side that are saying
34:26 those exact things, they don't want to move, right? They don't want to go to the Nordic countries or
34:31 to Canada or to any of these other places in the world where we basically, according to them,
34:36 it's a little bit closer to utopia. They don't want to leave, they want to stay here, but they
34:39 just want to be up in arms and complain about it. But this other thing about kind of the political
34:43 left is just this overall hatred of humans. And again, I'm making a, I'm going to make a
34:47 distinction between leftist and liberal, because I think those are two different things. I'm talking
34:51 about people that are leftist, people that are on the political left. These people hate humans.
34:55 And if you don't take me seriously on that, think about their options in terms of what they say
35:00 with abortion, that they don't talk about what's going on in the womb as someone that has rights
35:06 as a human being that has rights as a human. And you have other leftists that believe even after
35:11 the baby has been born, if after a botched abortion, that that baby should be left there to die.
35:17 We literally have leftist politicians that have been on video saying that exact thing. So I think
35:22 the political left has some blame to share in this in terms of moving us in certain directions.
35:27 But the other thing I want to look at is kind of in turn with the political left. And that's
35:32 social or cultural or entertainment elites, right? So think Hollywood elites or New York elites.
35:38 And these people, the big thing about them is they love to be able to control humans, right?
35:43 Because we can control people if we control culture, because if we make a good enough movie,
35:48 we can get a whole bunch of people to spend money and go and look at the same screen. That's control.
35:52 But also every political season, you can see these ads start to pop up with these recognizable
35:58 faces from your favorite movies, basically telling you, don't vote for the red guy,
36:02 vote for the blue guy or something like that. You see something like that. They want to be able to
36:06 control you. And when they can't control you, they freak out. Yet all these people that are like,
36:10 I'm going to move out of the country of Trump's elected, literally none of them have moved out of
36:13 the country. But it's because they thought, Oh my gosh, you the the end user, the end voter,
36:19 we're going to maybe be like, Oh my gosh, Madonna is going to like basically, you know,
36:24 renouncer citizenship or or, you know, whoopi Goldberg is going to move like, what are we going
36:28 to do if whoopi moves like it's, it's that it's nonsense like that. But again, it's just more about
36:33 control. But then you also get these ideas that start to spread that start in kind of this,
36:38 the social or cultural elitist type groups. So you've heard a lot of people moving towards
36:42 global warming, basically being the reason for for them not wanting to have children.
36:48 You saw I think it was a one of the princes over in England. I can't remember him and his
36:52 wife. They just had their their first baby. And they said at maximum, they're going to have two
36:56 babies. And when asked why they were like, well, because of climate change. Well, which again,
37:01 it used to be called global warming until it was seen that most of the warming models that were put
37:06 out there were absolutely way off when it came to what they were trying to predict. So now it's
37:10 climate change as if that's something that can be easily defined. And so these individuals,
37:15 they're not going to have babies because of climate change. And then so you have these dumb
37:19 dumps that are like, Oh my gosh, I recognize that person from television or from tabloid covers.
37:24 You know, I'm going to not have children either, which probably isn't the worst idea for someone
37:27 like that. But I'm just, I'm just saying like it's one of those deals that you get these people
37:31 that think in this way, they keep putting out entertainment in this way and it's going to keep
37:34 pushing the way forward. I mean, guys, literally right before I got onto this podcast, literally
37:39 right before a group of guys, they, you know, he sent out an email to me, but it was this Arthur
37:44 episode. I don't know if y'all remember that the show Arthur, but they had an episode here in the
37:48 last season where there was a same sex wedding where basically Arthur's teacher married his partner.
37:55 And the thing was, is he was sending the text of this group because he's like, they literally
37:59 just played this episode of Arthur for my kindergartners. He's got a kid that just went into
38:03 kindergarten like a week ago. And he's like, app, I'm about to like send an email off to them. And
38:07 it's like, dude, an email is not going to do it. Are you kidding me? Like in the public school
38:11 system, even in a conservative state like Oklahoma, you're going to have stuff like that that come
38:14 out that are going to try to normalize lifestyles that you think are immoral. And for us as Christians,
38:19 we obviously think that the homosexual lifestyle is an immoral thing. Jesus did talk about a
38:24 homosexuality being wrong, being immoral, being sinful. But again, when you look through the lens
38:29 of social, cultural and entertainment elites, they don't really kind of go through that.
38:32 Another thing I was thinking about in terms of how these stats kind of got to where they were
38:36 is just the connectedness culture. So we live in one of these, these cultures where we're constantly
38:42 connected. We were constantly on social media, we're constantly talking to people. I mean,
38:47 you'll even see people like to make fun of it, but you'll see Gen Zers, they'll be all sitting in a
38:51 room together texting. And sometimes they're texting each other, as opposed to just looking
38:57 to their right and being like, Hey, what's up? Uh, everyone here joke like they're, they're texting
39:03 each other. But it's just, it's this feeling of connectedness, even though they're not.
39:07 So I think that has a little bit to do with how people are looking at the future and how
39:12 things just really aren't that important anymore. And the connectedness culture kind of gives off to
39:16 a me culture, right? We're this unbelievable narcissism that we're so focused on us. We're
39:22 focused on me and the things that we're doing. And if you're too focused on you, you're not going to
39:26 be very patriotic because in order to be patriotic towards your country, that requires a little bit
39:30 of a sacrifice. You're certainly not going to be more religious because especially if you come from
39:34 the Geodeo Christian framework and you follow, um, you know, Christianity or any of those types of
39:39 things, it's not really a U centric thing unless you go to Joel's team's church or Steven Furtick's
39:43 church or Carlins's church or something like that. And then you're the sinner and you're the superstar
39:47 and you're the hero, right? But at the same time, that's, that's what we get with this me culture.
39:52 When, when you're constantly connected, when, you know, you're worth for that day is,
39:57 tied to how many likes you get on Instagram post or how many people respond on a Facebook.
40:01 You know, it's, it's one of those things that it's, it's interesting for us, but it leads to that
40:06 for us. And all of those things lead to kind of this stuff culture as well, that there's always
40:11 this stuff that we need to attain. And so it's good. Again, going to be really hard for us to be
40:16 focused on being patriotic, on being religious or focusing on pro-creating. And you know, obviously
40:21 the selfless, uh,ness of being a parent, if we're constantly worried about getting stuff. And so
40:26 that's one thing you see with trends around people that are my age is people will, you know, wait to
40:30 get married because, you know, I haven't established myself yet. I haven't gotten that second or third
40:35 promotion. I'm not making six figures yet. I'm not doing whatever the thing might be. And you know,
40:39 I'll get married. I'll start looking when I can get all that stuff settled. And then if it takes
40:44 them until they're 35 to get that settled, then they start looking for a mate. Uh, maybe they're
40:49 kind of looking around. There's not as many people in their age range as they thought would be there
40:52 by the time they got everything set. And then you start thinking about, well, when are we going to
40:55 be able to have children? It all kind of gets, gets thrown off a little bit like it just kind of gets
41:00 thrown out of whack. And I don't think people really enjoy that very much. Nor should they really
41:04 look at enjoying that very much. And kind of the, the other thing I want to talk about that's a
41:08 little bit of a divergence. And we've talked about this quite a bit lately here on this podcast,
41:12 but it's kind of the, the more limited influence that fathers are having. I think that has a role
41:17 to play here because obviously there are less fathers living in the home and less fathers that
41:21 have a direct impact on their children's lives than any other time in America in American history.
41:26 And, you know, a lot of kids go to bed without dad in the house. And so you got to think, um, you
41:32 know, when I think about my dad and I think about the dads of some of my friends that I grew up with,
41:37 these were incredibly patriotic and religious men that obviously had families. And so they wanted
41:43 to be able to conserve that for their children. They wanted to teach their children patriotism,
41:48 teach them about being a good Christian and show them the value of being a good dad so that they
41:53 could be one someday. Right. But since we have more of a limited influence from fathers, since we
41:59 don't have, you know, rights of passage that are helping these boys understand why they should go
42:03 and do things like being patriotic and religious and having children and what it means to be the
42:10 man that can do all those things. I think that that has something to blame. I think there is some
42:14 blame to be used there. And so, um, the way that I want to kind of bring this all up and culminate
42:19 is, uh, the thing that I've thought about since I've started reading this reaches is I'm wondering
42:24 if this is America getting what she deserves. Like, I wonder if these trends and things that
42:30 are going in this direction and I'm not exactly, uh, bullish on the fact that they're going to be
42:34 able to change that. I wonder if we deserve it. And I'm reminded of the John Adams quote that's
42:40 obviously very popular and a lot of people have used, but it's that our constitution was made only
42:44 for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
42:49 And the thing about it is, is we're trying to have the benefits of a Judeo-Christian framework
42:55 without having God, the Judeo-Christian God. Like we want to have all the benefits of a moral
43:02 society while at the same time saying that morality is relative, that it can't be brought into one
43:08 specific area or one specific worldview. It's kind of an amalgamation of all these different
43:14 worldviews. And so I know this was a little bit more of an ethereal look at this poll. But I think
43:19 there are some things for us to be really, really concerned about, because typically in something
43:24 like this, even though I'm more pessimistic, I do kind of look for that, that positive thing,
43:28 like, well, what's positive? But to be honest with you, the only positive here is that Americans
43:32 still think hard work is a good thing. That, you know, even 20 years down the road, even with,
43:38 you know, people talking about how millennials are lazy and Gen Z is going to be worse and blah,
43:42 blah, blah, and all that. We still value hard work almost more than anything. That is as American
43:47 DNA, like as you can possibly get is we're going to work hard and pull ourself up by our bootstraps.
43:53 So that's the one positive. But all the rest of these things are incredibly, incredibly concerning.
43:58 Because I don't want to live in America. That's not very patriotic. I don't want to live in an
44:02 America that's only patriotic when the Olympics come up, right, which is what you see with a lot
44:05 of other countries. They're waving the flag and they're being proud and all that. And then they're
44:09 burning them the next week. It's just, it's a weird, it's a weird thing when you look around the world.
44:12 And obviously we're going to have exacerbated problems. The less religious the society becomes
44:18 because religion in and of itself helps control. It helps control people. It controls their actions.
44:24 It controls their vices. It's not a foolproof thing for anybody or any group of bodies, right?
44:29 But it's certainly better. And obviously I have some, some very big misgivings about the progress
44:34 of this mindset in terms of where things are going, because a conservative mindset much more
44:39 aligns with a biblical mindset, being able to conserve things in a way that it was meant to be
44:45 here 2,000 years later after Jesus was teaching the way that he was teaching. And so I didn't want
44:50 this podcast to turn into an alarmist podcast, but I didn't know if any of you had seen that
44:54 research. I wanted to make sure I shared it with you so that you can think through that as well.
44:57 All right, guys, let's do a quick resilience boost for let you out here. As you know, by now,
45:01 we are immense ministry and our mission is cultivating manly resilience. Specifically,
45:05 we do that by providing content that for just spiritual, mental and physical toughness. So
45:09 today I'm going to go on to give you a rundown of the things that we've looked at. So I'm going to
45:12 give you a link to the article, which is a deep and boiling anger. NBC Wall Street Journal poll
45:17 finds a pessimistic America despite current economic satisfaction. And then the other one that I read
45:22 on here was the birth rate in US falls to lowest level in 32 years. CDC says, but then also I provided
45:29 the link to the episode for the briefing with Albert Mueller from Tuesday, August 27th of 2019.
45:35 So it's at the Albert Mueller dot com website. But basically, guys, anywhere where you get your
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