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this is on Dante's life a man's podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into
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it. All right, guys, before we get into today's episode, I wanted to talk about the episode
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from a couple of weeks ago. So I did an episode number 85 on the poem if by Rudyard Kipling.
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And so I got a really interesting message from one of our listeners. And I just wanted
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to share that with you. It's really quick. This is from a listener named Brian Austin.
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So this was a message that he sent me. Another great episode. Listen to half of it with
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my dad. He was tearing up as Dennis Hopper read it. He read me that poem when I was 14,
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I think, and he gave me a framed copy of it at my high school graduation. Just read both
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the jungle books and Ricky Tiki Tavi to the kids last year. Kipling is one of the greats.
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Thank you. And so that was kind of a cool deal. So if you missed that episode, episode
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25, I'd suggest that you go back and check that one out. It was basically this poem on
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manhood. And it wasn't until the very, very end where it was revealed that this was basically
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a father talking to his son and saying, Hey, if you do these things, this is what you will
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become. You will be a man, my son. And so that's really cool. Anytime I get an interaction
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with one of you guys, when something hits you directly. So guys, if any of the content
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ever hits you in that way, just hit me up info at undaunted.life. That's the email info
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at undaunted.life. But for today's episode, we're going to be getting into a fairly controversial
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topic. And for a lot of you guys, you're really just going to have to follow me along
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here as much as you possibly can. But the thing that kind of preceded everything that
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we're going to be talking about today is because I said this during episode 84 of this podcast.
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The fourth observation I want to talk to you about is this is that society is moving towards
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the normalization of pedophilia. And this is just another step in that direction. And
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now obviously, this seems like a pretty, pretty sizable shift up here. But you just have to
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think about this guys. Again, this is teen Vogue magazine. Again, follow me here, follow
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me. This is teen Vogue magazine. And this is an article that essentially is encouraging
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girls below the age of 18, most of which are quite a bit below the age of 18, encouraging
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them to get into sex work, because they're normalizing it. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you
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know, that some people go out and their bussers it out back or they're, you know, they're
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helping people clean up stuff at the golf course or, you know, maybe they got an internship
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with an accounting firm. But you know what, you could always just, you know, pull off
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your top, have people pay for it. Give you $1 bills, you get enough of those, you'll
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be fine. Few lab dances a night, that'll help pay the rent. But the big thing about
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it here is one of the things that predators love are underage individuals that believe
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that is what is happening to them is normal. Follow me again, follow me here. Because one
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of the thing that pedophiles do, you can see this, it's all over the literature and the
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research here with pedophiles is they are trying to groom the people, the young boys
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and the young girls over time, so that they can eventually take advantage of them sexually.
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Because for a lot of these individuals, for a lot of these young people, let's just talk
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about young girls, if you were to just go right into the things that you eventually do with
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these girls from the very beginning, it's going to seem so otherworldly and so shocking and
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scarring, that is probably going to be a negative reaction. You're probably going to get caught
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because they're probably going to tell somebody. But you see this overwhelming amount of time
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and effort spent by these pedophiles to normalize their presence first, normalize the fact that,
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you know, it's just normal that this person is around. And then it's just normal that
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this person's going to hug you a little bit longer than other people do, that it's normal
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that this person is going to touch you in areas and in ways that no one else does.
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And so on and so forth. Don't worry, I'm not going to go all the way with that particular
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line of thinking. But this is the best thing that a pedophile could think of because that's
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got to really try your patience if you're a pedophile, right? Because you just want to
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get your jolly's off as quickly as possible. But if you have to spend weeks or months kind
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of normalizing and grooming this individual, gosh, it just kind of keeps you from getting
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to where you want to be, right? But whenever they think that this is normal, that if you
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just take payment as if this is just some sort of a service that you provide, right?
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Then that's great. And society is doing a lot of things. Now I'll probably do an entire
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podcast episode on the future in this, but it seems like drag queens are everywhere right
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now, right? You know, we have drag queen story time at libraries and we have, you know, nine
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year old boys that are, you know, world famous as drag queens now, these highly sexualized
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forms of women, even though they are boys, or young men. But if we normalize it, it's
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not going to be that big of a deal. And people always whenever you start making the slippery
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soap argument argument, they're like, Oh gosh, here we go. This conservative Christian making
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the slippery slope argument. Here we go again. But the thing about it is, is that's how the
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world works. Because when you push past a certain line and that line becomes established,
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you can continue pushing past the new line that you've established. That's how slippery
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slopes work. Because there were things that, you know, one generation ago were absolutely
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unfathomable. You know, think about gay marriage that was unfathomable one generation ago. And
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now it's old hat. Right now it seems unfathomable that we would think that polygamy is something
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that we should be able to do. But if love is love, right? If love is just love, then then
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why can't a man have more than one wife? Why can't a woman have more than one husband?
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And then the line eventually is pushed to, well, if love is love, and I'm a 30 year old
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man, and you're a 15 year old girl, well, that's enough for consent, right? We love each other.
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I mean, if love is love, right? You see what I'm saying? These arguments are absurd, but
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this is where society is pushing you. When society doesn't have anything to anchor itself
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to, namely, a God that gave us these rules for morality, then we just have to make it
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up. And we make it up based on logic and reason alone, which takes us down this path. So obviously
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that is the point that I was making there was a fairly sizable point for a lot of you
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guys. Maybe you've never thought about that before. But the thing about it is is I'm not
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crazy. Because almost immediately I had people sharing this video with me. And this is a video
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that I'm going to kind of break down for you. It was a TEDx talk. So if you're familiar
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with TED talks, those are just kind of they, they get people that are on the cutting edge
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of a lot of different things. And they haven't come up and give these very specific type
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speeches. They stand in one spot and blah, blah, blah. But I had multiple people share
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this and one of those people was Jonathan West. He runs the Becoming Husband podcast. So shout
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out to Jonathan West for sharing this with me and make sure you check out his podcast
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Becoming Husband. I've been interviewed on that before. It's it's a it's really, really
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solid podcast. The guy really knows what he's doing over there. But they shared with me
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this video called pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation. So obviously that got my attention.
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I was like, all right, cool. So this is going to be interesting. And so it took me a little
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bit to get to the actually watching it because I wanted to make sure I could give it my full
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attention because it's about a 13 minute long video. But it's presented by this woman named
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Mirjam Heine. That's that's the best guess I'm going to give you. It's M I R J A M and last
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name is H E I N E. So I'm not exactly sure where she's from. But yeah, I don't exactly
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know how to say that. But this was a TEDx talk at the University of Worsberg. And so again,
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it's just like it's completely got me flummoxed already just because listening to this multiple
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times like I like I do with just about everything so I can share with you guys. It was unbelievable
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what was being said here. And so what I want to do here is I want to go ahead and go into
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some of the things that she said we're not going to listen to all 13 minutes or so. But
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I just want to kind of give you an idea of what people out there think because there
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are people that think what I said about the slippery slope about okay, we go from gay
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marriage to, you know, having, you know, polygamy around to going to pedophilia, they think
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that that's like absolutely grossly overstated, right? Super hyperbolic. But I don't exactly
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think that's the case, right? So I'll provide the entire link for you here at the end so
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you guys can watch the video for yourself. But let's go ahead and go into this TEDx talk
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by Merjom Heine and it's called pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation. Let me tell
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you about Jonas. Jonas is 19 years old. He studies law and Munich. In his spare time,
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he likes to pay soccer. Jonas has a secret which he thinks he cannot share with anyone,
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not even with his best friend or with his parents. He's just too afraid of anger, rejection
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and repulsion. Jonas knows that he has to suppress his sexual drive for his entire life
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and he also knows that there will never be a loving and fulfilling partnership that he
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can enter because Jonas is a pedophile. He's only attracted to female children between
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the ages of six and 12 years. But since he's aware of the consequences for the children,
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he has never given in to his sexual drive. So how's that for an intro? I mean, yes, here's
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the thing, just to point off right off the bat. She sounds like a satanic robot. So let's
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just go ahead and get that out of there in the very beginning because it doesn't change.
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There's no inflections. There's nothing that changes in terms of her presentation. That's
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pretty much what it is. Okay, but I do want to kind of draw your attention to something.
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She's trying to personalize something from the very beginning. I'm not perfectly convinced
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that this Jonas person even exists, but his name pops up several times throughout this.
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But let's go ahead and continue. We'll get back into the speech here.
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What is pedophilia? And what is it not? In the ICD 10, the international classification
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system for illnesses, pedophilia is coded as the sexual preference for pre adolescent
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children. It is listed under the sexual disorders. Whether the persistent occurrence of sexual
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thoughts and feelings for pre adolescent children have been acted upon or not is not relevant
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to the diagnosis. Like every other sexual orientation, pedophilia can have different
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characteristics. Hold up. Wait a minute. What was that last part? Wait, wait, wait, wait.
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What was the last part? Like every other sexual orientation, pedophilia can have different
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characteristics. Like every other sexual orientation, pedophilia can have different characteristics.
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Well now isn't that interesting. She just kind of slyly sneaks in that pedophilia is
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an accepted sexual orientation. That that's somehow just a thing. This is a thing that
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just happens. Hmm. Now, the only problem that we see here is that there's no biology behind
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any of that. I mean, there's really nothing that can kind of prove that, but it's very
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effective for her in this to say something like that. Because again, she's not only
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trying to personalize it by this point. She's also trying to legitimize it and give it actual
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footings. So I mean, she's nothing if not good at what she's doing. I mean, she got a ton
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of thumbs down on this presentation on YouTube. But hey, that's neither here nor there. Let's
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go ahead and get back into it. For example, it can be heterosexual. It can be homosexual.
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Some pedophiles are exclusively attracted to children. Others are not exclusively attracted
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to children, but they're also sexually interested in adults. But their main sexual interest lies
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within children. I believe this main sexual interest is given. We talk about pedophilia.
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So apparently that's all we need to know. We are just going to take this woman's word
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for it. This is just kind of a natural thing that none of us should be able to judge because
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this is just basically how this person is wired, right? Just like if you were homosexual or
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bisexual or transsexual or any of those things, that's wiring. I mean, according to this person,
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right? I'm not really according to anything else, but definitely according to this person.
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But now she's going to talk a little bit about demographics. So let's get back into it here.
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The vast majority of all pedophiles are men, about 99%. Within the male population, 1
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to 2% are considered to be pedophiles. This translates to about 60 million people worldwide.
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This is as much as the population of Italy or of South Africa. Therefore, pedophilia is
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not an irrelevant phenomenon. We can't simply ignore chances. Every one of you knows at
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least one pedophile are higher than that you don't know anyone.
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Now this is pretty straightforward stuff. This is just demographic information. I would
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be curious here, however, to kind of get an idea of how exactly do you get that number?
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How exactly do you get these percentage numbers? Because again, kind of the whole thing that's
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undergirding what she's saying here is that, and we'll get more into this a little bit
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later. It'll kind of be revealed. But it's like, okay, society is basically keeping these
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people in the dark, right? With how we act. And so that that's interesting that we have
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all these numbers. But let's just say that that were true. Let's say that these are acceptable
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numbers, which sure I'm willing to concede that that's an acceptable amount. That's got
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to be scary. I mean, think about that, dads. I mean, for your boys and your little girls,
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it's just like, man, you got to really, really reckon with that. Now there's other statistics
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that show kind of, you know, the propensity for women to be pedophiles, but it is overwhelmingly
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male. I mean, almost 100%. But I mean, at the very least, that's got to be a nice little
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warning signal for you guys, for any of you guys that don't like paying attention that
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like your to have your heads in your phone, whenever your kids are out and about kind
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of doing their thing. That's a little something to remind you that you got to be aware at all
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times as to what's going on. So we're going to go and get back into this, this talk here,
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because now she's going to start trying to separate a couple of things. She's going to
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start trying to separate pedophilia and child sexual abuse. And she does it fairly creatively.
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So let's go back into it here.
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It is crucial to understand the difference between pedophilia and child sexual abuse,
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which is illegal and must always be. Pedophilia is only the sexual preference for pre adolescent
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children. The difference between child sexual abuse and pedophilia becomes very obvious when
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we look at scientific studies. Think about it for yourself. What do you think? What percentage
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of child molesters are pedophiles have a guess? Is it 20% 4060? Maybe even 80%? In fact, scientific
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studies indicate that only 20 to 30% of all child molesters are pedophiles. The vast majority
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of perpetrators are not pedophiles, but they're sexually interested in adults. Children can
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easily become victims of child sexual abuse because of their loyalty and because of ease
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of access. For example, a stepfather might abuse a stepdaughter because he feels anger
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or jealousy towards her mother. Not every pedophile abuses children. And not everyone
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who abuses children is a pedophile. Not everyone that abuses children is a pedophile. Huh?
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Very interesting. Where is she coming up with this? Like, where does that line of reasoning
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come from? So you can see her do something kind of slick there towards the end of this
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little little area that we kind of pulled out. She talked about how, you know, a lot of it
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is just because the kids are are around and they have easy access to them. It's almost
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as if she's putting the onus on the kids. And then ergo, you kind of see that she's putting
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the onus on the parents of these children, which I can obviously see that I feel like
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we should have some responsibility there. I just talked about it here just a couple of
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minutes ago. But this idea that these children, not by not everyone that abuses children is
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a pedophile is insane. It is literally insane. So she's trying to build this argument again,
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thinking in terms of this Jonas person that may or may not exist. She's trying to build
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this argument that basically this isn't necessarily the pedophiles fault, right? And the, the
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thing about it is, is like you can be a pedophile not do anything wrong. And so, so pedophilia
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is just this natural inclination and bend within your brain. But the way that she's building
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the argument is, is fairly disturbing. And that has a lot to do with the fact that she
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basically said that not everyone that abuses a child is actually into the child sexually.
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She almost explicitly says that she says a lot of it has to do with them, you know, basically
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you're trying to get back at, you know, the kids parents, like, like really that's, that's
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your argument. Like what? That doesn't make any sense. Now, are there certain people that
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do things? I mean, obviously you don't have to look very far farther than the drug cartels,
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the things that they do to the families of people that have wronged them or double crossed
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them or stolen from them. Obviously there are people that do things to children and family
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members just to teach people a lesson. But that's not necessarily what we're talking
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about here, right? We're not talking about Mexican drug cartels. We're not talking about
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the Cinaloa Cartel here. We're talking about dudes hanging out by the playground. This is
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a very different scenario, but she's painting with such a broad brush. But again, she kind
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of brings up her, her big statement here in just one second. So let's go ahead and play
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that and then we'll talk about it.
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According to current research, pedophilia is an unchangeable sexual orientation. Just
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like, for example, heterosexuality. No one chooses to be a pedophile. No one can seize
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being one. The difference between pedophilia and other sexual orientations is that living
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out this sexual orientation will end in a disaster.
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And there you go. That's her main point. It is an unchangeable sexual orientation. Otherwise,
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she would be saying this is normal. This is to be expected because everything that she
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says after this is basically based off of that, that this is normal, that there's nothing
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really broken about it. Almost that it's, it's just kind of unfortunate that it's illegal.
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It's very unfortunate because poor Jonas can never actually have what he wants sexually,
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right? That's basically where she's going for this. But now she's going to start pointing
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her fingers. How did we even get here?
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So let's think about Jonas again. How can we help him not to cause such a disaster?
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How can we help him not to live out his sexual urges? How can we prevent child sexual abuse?
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In fact, scientific studies indicate that one of the strongest predictors for child sexual
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abuse committed by pedophiles is social isolation.
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And there you go. Social isolation. This is kind of a favorite tactic of people that kind
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of align with the more liberal kind of leftist ideology that we can't put the responsibility
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on the person, whatever the person is and what they're doing. It's our responsibility. Got
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it? It is our responsibility. We are the same dumb arguments for trans people and things
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like that. Like, Oh, because we, if you bring up something like the suicidality of people
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that actually go through with the sex change operation that their suicidality skyrockets,
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it's actually the highest suicidality of any demographic group on the planet earth. It's
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like, Oh, it's because they've been bullied. And that's that's the only reason they give,
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and which is not to say that, you know, these children or these adults have never been bullied
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or, or, you know, maligned or any of those types of things. But at the same time to say
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that that is the reason is rich. Like really? I mean, they're trying to make us feel bad
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that these individuals can't act out sexually again. When she goes into this little diet
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tribe, she mentions Jonas again. Jonas was one of the first words out of her mouth. She
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wanted us to consider this person so that we could feel bad for him. And to a certain
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degree, we should pity this person that they have this proclivity apparently in their brain.
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But what we should not do is feel bad for him because he can't act out on it. And that
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is exactly what this person is trying to do. Exactly what she's trying to do. And a few
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minutes later in the presentation, she keeps going. We shouldn't increase the suffering
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of pedophiles by excluding them by blaming and mocking them. By doing that, we increase
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their isolation and we increase the chance of child sexual abuse. You see, it's on us.
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It's our fault. We are responsible because we increase the chances of child sexual abuse.
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If we malign these people, if we say what they're doing or what they're thinking is
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evil, it's on us guys. Don't you understand? She's just trying to help us understand.
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So she talks for a few more minutes on there. And then I just got, you know, I got stuck.
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I went down a rabbit hole on this one. And so I'm sure I'm on some sort of watch list
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somewhere now because of all the different Google searches I did trying to like research
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pedophilia and things like that. But believe it or not, there was another TEDx talk about
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this subject. And I was thinking that potentially this could be something that was on the other
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side, right? So this was a TEDx at sitar to galeen. I think it's how you say it. And it's
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by another person with a hard to pronounce name, but it's Madeline Vander Bruggen. So
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we'll go with that. Vander Bruggen like to say that. That's a strong name. But the name
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of this talk was let's be mature about pedophilia. So just listening to that right there, you
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might think to yourself that could go either way. We don't really know. So we're going
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to break down a few pieces of this presentation as well. So let's go ahead and go into the
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intro for let's be mature about pedophilia.
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At some point last year, this article showed up in newspapers all over the world. The
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police had taken down this massive child pornography network. It was on the dark net
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and it had nearly 90,000 members. Lots and lots of illegal material were shared and lots
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of messages were sent through the network every day, every hour, every second. People
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from all over the world were logging into this network anonymously, which makes it extremely
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difficult for the police to track them down. Now, some of these people only had the aim
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of collecting child abuse and material online. Others also had the aim of abusing children
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themselves. Regardless, they all found this deep satisfaction in discussing their deepest
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fantasies and experiences with regards to child abuse online. Apparently there's a market
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for this. Well, this makes me ask the question, how can we keep the world of the internet
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safe for our children? How can we reduce and maybe even eliminate the problem of child
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exploitation online? Well, that's quite a question to ask. As a psychologist, having
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worked directly with sex offenders previously and now working for the Dutch National Police
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Child Exploitation Unit, I can simply tell you this. Unfortunately, we will never be
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able to eliminate every possible risk out there. However, there are definitely ways of making
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the world of the internet a safer place for our children. And the criminal justice system
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is one solution. But if we want to do more, I need the help of all of you. And in the
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next 15 minutes or so, I will tell you exactly what we can do and why.
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So at this point, you got to feel pretty good about where this is going. I mean, this is
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a woman that is in law enforcement. She's very well spoken, obviously intelligent. And
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you're thinking, okay, this is going to be a little bit different than the last video
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that we watched. It's going in a positive direction. We like this. So let's see if she
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keeps it up.
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Well, this may sound really shocking, but it's not really surprising considering that international
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research repeatedly portrays that 0.5 up to even 3% of our male population has some form
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of paedophilic interest. I'm talking about our male population here today because that's
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what most research is conducted on. I'm not saying that females don't have this difficulty
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at all. It's just few is known about them. But 0.5 up to 3%. Consider the Netherlands.
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We have 8.5 million men in total. So this percentage equates with 42,500 up to 255,000
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men. That's all inhabitants of a medium sized city in the Netherlands. To make it even more
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concrete, I was told that there's about 200 of you in the audience today. While looking
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at you, I think there's slightly more females than males, but let's say that there's 80
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males of you here today in the audience. We can all do the maths now, can't we? Statistics
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indicate that there will be one or two of you who are struggling with some form of paedophilic
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interest. And what this means is that most probably there will be someone in your environment,
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someone you know, someone like your neighbor, like your colleague, like your football mate,
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maybe even your husband or son who is struggling with these sort of feelings. The only thing
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is you don't know about it. And here we get to a notion that I really want to emphasize,
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because even though these percentages are massive, most of these people know that they
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have feelings that they should repress. So most of these people don't act out on it.
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They don't offend, which is great, isn't it? But the problem is these people can't talk
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about their feelings because they know that they will be hated for it. I truly do believe
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that every person is longing for love at some point in their life. And what if this love
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that you really wish for will forever be impossible? That must be a really lonely situation to
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be in. It's like telling me, we know that you love your boyfriend and we don't minimize
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it love. However, you cannot act out on it ever. And on top of that, you won't be able
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to talk about it with anyone. So unfortunately, sometimes it does go wrong. Sometimes people
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do start offending. And I'm not justifying this on the contrary, I work for police. I'm
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just saying that it's a logical thing to happen.
30:27
So it was like, I'm with you. I'm with you. Yes, stats and with your stats. This is bad
30:31
news. And then it's, Oh, isn't it so sad that these men can't rape underage children?
30:40
Isn't that just so sad that these guys are never going to be able to get their jollies
30:45
off? Gosh, we just got to feel really, really bad for them. Again, this is another person
30:54
in a different country that is giving you the same line of thinking, the same line of thinking.
31:00
So you have to start asking yourself around this point, like, is this normal? I remember
31:05
whenever I was watching these, I was like, am I the weirdo here? I was like, I feel like
31:09
this is insane, because it almost sounds plausible, right? It's like, ah, you know, this person
31:14
wants to do this thing and they can't do that thing. So that's, that's bad. But it's like,
31:18
what is the thing though? I mean, that's what we really need to get into is, is what is
31:22
the thing? But this next section here, she kind of gets into her main point for her whole
31:27
speech. So what do we do with this knowledge? Well, I think there will be many of you telling
31:34
me now, you know what? Let's just ban all these people from society. Let's just lock
31:39
them all up and let's just leave them somewhere far away from our children. And from an emotional
31:45
point of view, I can kind of understand what you're saying. I became an auntie last year
31:52
for the first time. My little nephew, he just turned one, absolutely crazy about the little
31:58
boy and we just got back from a family holiday and we really enjoyed the sun and the beach,
32:04
the weather was lovely. And I simply cannot imagine the possibility that my little nephew
32:11
wouldn't be able to walk around in his swimmingwear because some adult would be sexually attracted
32:16
to him. Yes, from an emotional point of view, I can kind of understand that you would want
32:23
to eliminate these people from society. However, it doesn't make sense. And that's because
32:31
we're talking about biology, we're talking about a sexual orientation, something that
32:37
we simply cannot change. And on top of that, every day, new people are born with the same
32:45
difficulty. So it's not practical to eliminate these people from society. They haven't done
32:50
anything wrong. So rather than letting our emotions rule, please, let's be mature about
32:57
this problem. Let's think about clever solutions. Guys, guys, guys, guys, let's just be mature
33:04
about this. Let's be mature. Let's just find some clever solutions to the problem here.
33:13
What's the problem? Oh, people that want to rape children. Ah, it's just like having
33:19
sewage back up in your house or, you know, a speed bump that goes awry. It's something
33:24
like that, right? It's a pothole. It's just a problem. We just need to fix it. Whoa,
33:31
man, it's just like, you just wonder, you just wonder how someone gets to that point,
33:37
because we just need to be mature, right? Again, it's on us. If we would just be mature,
33:42
this problem would basically fix itself because guys, it's biology. It's just biology, right?
33:49
That's all we need here. We just need biology. And she continues.
33:54
I can ensure you that law enforcement is working really, really hard every day to get
34:00
a grip on this problem. There's a great focus on prioritization and working on the most
34:07
dangerous offenders, the most extreme cases. And to get back to the newspaper article that
34:12
I showed you in the beginning, I started with a bit of a negative vibe because I wanted
34:17
to make you aware of the problem that we're facing. But at the same time, behind the scenes,
34:24
law enforcement is working really hard. They're professionalizing and working together internationally
34:31
to really get a grip on the tip of the iceberg of people active on these networks. And I
34:37
must say, I'm really proud. However, we can do so much more. And in order to do so, I
34:46
need your help of every single one of you out there. Because law enforcement only is
34:53
not going to arrest their way out of this problem. And that's because we're talking
34:57
about a public and a mental health issue, which is a shared responsibility for all of
35:03
us.
35:04
Boom. So there's some good here. She mentions that it's a mental health issue. But here's
35:09
the problem. This is a woman that very much so seems to be coming from a more leftist point
35:15
of view, more leftist ideology and moral man here and joke on just a second. But the thing
35:21
about it is, is they don't like using things like biology to describe things that they're
35:26
trying to normalize. So normalizing homosexual behavior, normalizing transgenderism. These
35:34
are things that they don't want to lean on biology. Because biology actually argues against
35:38
what they want. It cuts against what they want. So it's very interesting to mention mental
35:44
health here when you're not exactly looking to use that as the foundation for your argument.
35:49
You just kind of throw that in there. I don't know if it's to sound smarter or sound advanced,
35:53
but it doesn't really do you any justice. But let's go ahead and get into her outro here.
35:57
And this will be the last clip we'll have from her. So how can we be open about a problem
36:02
now? How can we break the taboo? Well, first of all, let's stop with hate. Let's stop with
36:10
negative vibes in the media and let's stop with throwing rocks at offenders houses because
36:16
it's not going to take us anywhere. It's never going to solve this problem. But rather please
36:25
let's be rational about this problem. Let's talk about it. Let's be open and let's be
36:31
a mature society. What if your son would approach you one day and would tell you that he's struggling
36:39
with paedophilic feelings? Would you beat him up or would you want to help? It's only
36:51
with this openness that people will find the strength to come forward and that people will
36:57
find the help they need. And I truly do believe that this will bring us one step closer to
37:02
prevention. However, as for me, if this talk or even my daily job helps to saving only
37:10
just one child, for me, that's a solution in itself. Thank you very much. So she kind
37:21
of makes herself a martyr there at the end. And that's kind of one of those things like
37:23
if you don't have that strong of a point, you basically just say if this makes a difference
37:27
for just one person, it's Bob, it's worth it. And I get it. I understand that it is worth
37:32
it and all those things. But it's just like, okay, pat yourself in the back and then move
37:35
on with your day. I get it. But the thing about it is in that outro, it just didn't
37:39
lay in the way that she wanted. Because again, she's trying to make us feel bad for these
37:43
people. She's making us feel bad that they can't act out in the way that they want to
37:47
act out. And she's basically like, come on guys, let's get rid of the negative vibes,
37:52
you know, like let's just do like some posse vibe type stuff. Let's have that instead. It's
37:57
like, come on, like it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to operate in that way.
38:02
But but that's the thing is as you continue researching these and I'll give you the links
38:05
to both of these so you can watch them for yourself, you just have to think like, isn't
38:08
this a little bit concerning? Because these are two presentations, I think both of them
38:13
took place in Europe. And typically the United States culturally is a little bit downstream
38:18
of Europe, especially politically as well. That's why you got to be a little bit concerned
38:22
about some of the things that you're seeing in some of the nations over in Europe. Because
38:26
if that's the direction that we're headed, we're in for a rude awakening. And so is our
38:30
liberty. But we have to be clear about something here as we as we take into account the things
38:36
that were said in those first two speeches. There is no scientific proof whatsoever that
38:44
pedophilia is biological or genetic. None. There's no such thing as a pedophilic gene.
38:54
It doesn't exist. The same thing with homosexuality. You hear, you know, again, like I talked about
38:59
it, things being old hat, homosexuality is just this accepted thing. But scientists have
39:05
been trying to prove for decades that there is a genetic proclivity towards homosexuality
39:11
and they can't prove it. And one of the biggest reasons that they can is if you look at identical
39:17
twins, you have one that's homosexual and one that's not, if you have identical twins,
39:22
one might be a pedophile and the other's not, right? And it's just absolutely crazy to them
39:29
that that these things can happen whenever they're looking at the genes and they're looking
39:33
at the biology, they're looking at the DNA and they just don't get an answer. But again,
39:38
if you argue these points of view on subjects like pedophilia or transgenderism or homosexuality,
39:44
if you argue these points of view, you can't use biology. You just can't. I mean, and guys
39:49
go and send me the some of these stories that we got recently. There was one that came out
39:53
in the last month or so where it's like, Oh, they think they've cracked the code on genetic
39:57
homosexuality or something like that. No, they didn't. They weren't even close, but they got
40:02
a headline got a lot of clicks, right? But all of that information that was kind of going
40:07
on there and all the research I did and all the reading, which I got, it's just going
40:10
to scar me for life. But I'm giving it to you guys. So say thank you. All right. But
40:14
it led to this. It's that society is normalizing pedophilia. And I know I'm repeating an argument
40:20
I made last time, but that's the thing. It just seems so crazy to even say that right
40:24
now, doesn't it? But it's true. They're normalizing it. These talks are popping up blogs are popping
40:33
up. Things just kind of pop up. And it's just kind of being snuck in along with some other
40:41
things. It's being packaged, you know, LGBTQ plus is there going to be a P in that plus
40:47
at some point for pedophilic people, people that that feel like they are attracted to
40:54
young children. It's not insane to say that. And the thing is, is leftists, liberals, secularists,
41:04
people with no Judeo Christian framework, they're to blame for this. I mean, it's not
41:10
the Christians. It's not the conservatives that that are sneaking in this language, right?
41:16
I mean, that would be absurd. But they're just kind of sneaking it in little by little.
41:21
And it is creating a slippery slope. So some of you guys may know who Matt Walsh is. We
41:26
we watch him and listen to him and read some of his stuff here at Undaunted Life, but he
41:30
works for the Daily Wire. And he's a guy that really does not pull punches and the things
41:34
that he says. And I can't remember where this clip came from. I think it was from something
41:38
at the end of last year, but it's just a few minutes on him talking about the slippery
41:41
slope of pushing transgenderism on kids. So you have to see the connection between what
41:48
I just said and what Matt's going to say here. Kids really at any age, they say, possess the
41:55
knowledge and the foresight and the wisdom and the power to choose their own gender.
42:05
So the left has no problem with the idea of an elementary school boy transitioning into
42:11
a girl. They say, well, if that's what he chooses, then it's okay. They have no problem
42:16
even with kids, young kids taking drugs, puberty blockers, hormones to essentially chemically
42:22
castrate themselves, even if temporarily, in order to facilitate this this transition.
42:29
They think that kids can consent to that. Now, this raises a very important question, I think.
42:38
If a child is too young to consent to having sex, how is he at the same time old enough
42:47
to consent to changing his sex? I mean, the consent laws are based on the correct idea
42:58
that children do not have the mental or physical capacity to really fully consent to sexual
43:04
activity. They are not able to consent to it because they don't have a full concept
43:10
of what it even is. And because they're young kids, they also don't have the power in any
43:16
situation to consent to say no. So that's why we have the consent age where it is. That's
43:26
why we say that kids can't consent. But if they don't have that capacity, how are they
43:35
possibly able to choose to transition? If they can't choose to have sex, how can they
43:41
choose to transition? How do they have, if they don't have the wisdom and the knowledge
43:46
and all of that and the maturity for one of those things, how do they have it for the
43:52
other? So obviously there's a contradiction here. The people that are pushing transgenderism
43:58
on kids are also at the same time by necessity, pushing an entirely different idea about consent
44:06
and about the mental capacities and the maturity of children, which is why I believe the people
44:14
that are pushing transgenderism will soon enough be pushing pedophilia. The two things
44:19
kind of go hand in hand because in order to to make their case that kids can make this
44:27
choice, they have to tell us that actually no kids have all the knowledge and power and
44:32
maturity that they need. So when pedophilia is normalized in our culture, and I think that
44:39
it will be soon enough, this is the vehicle by which you will reach that state of normalization.
44:46
And this is the reason why, this is one of the reasons why this issue really matters.
44:50
This is why it's important because what we're seeing here is an attack on kids, an attack
44:55
on childhood, and it's not going to stop with just this. It's not going to stop with just
44:59
the transgender stuff. Nothing ever stops. You know, you never get to a point, especially
45:04
with the left when they're when they're, they never stop if you've noticed that once they
45:09
achieve one thing, they get to one landmark, they're going to want to go on to the next.
45:13
That's what that's how it always works. So soon enough, the people that are saying that
45:18
kids are old enough to consent to changing their sex will also be arguing that kids are
45:22
old enough to consent to having sex. And this is not some kind of like far-fetched scenario.
45:29
Okay, pedophilia has been in the past and is now today in some cultures considered normal.
45:36
Ancient pagan cultures had no problem with it. It's a relatively normal practice in some
45:40
parts of the world even today. So it's by no means impossible or even implausible that
45:46
we in our culture could slide back into that state of things. But there has to be a catalyst
45:52
for it. There has to be something that sparks the change. And I think this is it. This is
45:56
what will spark it. And so this is why we need to pay attention.
46:02
I mean, it's kind of hard to disagree with his argumentation there because again, we've
46:06
seen this play out before. We've seen this play out in other areas. But again, that is
46:11
his main point being that if we say children have the wherewithal to be able to consent
46:17
to changing their gender and say that they somehow can't consent to what they do with
46:21
those sexual organs, right? It doesn't make any sense. You have to take this to its logical
46:29
outcome, which is insane, which is absolute insanity. But at the same time, this is the
46:35
logical outcome. And then a little while later, well, this was actually just released earlier
46:38
this June, Matt Walsh wrote a blog on his website, basically saying how the left is normalizing
46:43
pedophilia right in front of our eyes, not it wasn't his website. It was on the daily
46:47
wire. So it's a short one. So I just want to read it to you here. So here we go. Twitter
46:50
just announced that it has zero tolerance for child sexual exploitation. Yet it has allowed
46:56
this video from vice in the video was basically showing these young boys, there was like four
47:01
or five of them that are being celebrated as these drag kids. So let's get back in the
47:05
article, both portraying and glorifying child sexual exploitation to remain on its platform.
47:11
The vice video is a fun and whimsical look at the community of young boys who dress in
47:15
women's clothing and dance for the perverted entertainment of adults. Vice proudly announced
47:20
that these children are the next generation of drag queens, but they are not really a
47:24
part of the next generation. They are the current generation, or more like current crop of a
47:30
new type of drag performer, new that is to the West. Over in places like Afghanistan,
47:36
it has long been customary to have young boys and female attire dance for the pleasure of
47:40
grown men. We have now adopted a similar custom, but under the guise of progressivism. The
47:46
left has become increasingly obsessed with dress dressing boys up like girls and parading
47:50
them around, literally parading them around. In some cases, like when the LA pride parade
47:55
had a seven year old boy quote, strutting, unquote, in high heels at the head of the procession,
48:00
little attempt is made anymore to hide the sexual nature of the drag kid phenomenon.
48:05
Remember, for instance, the drag kid who was posed naked with a man and the drag kid who
48:09
danced at a gay bar while men tossed money at him. This should put things into perspective
48:14
for those still obtuse and oblivious enough to think that the drag queen story hours popping
48:18
up at libraries across the country are just a bit of harmless fun. Hundreds of libraries
48:23
have hosted events to bring children and cross dressing men together. There is, of course,
48:28
no practical or coherent reason why a man has to dress like a woman from the Tim Burton
48:33
movie in order to read a book to children. The decision to add that Maccabray and grotesque
48:38
element into the equation is purposeful. And the purpose is to get children boys, especially
48:43
accustomed to idea of cross dressing. The sexual exploiters of children want to ensure
48:48
that there will be a constantly refreshed supply of bokeh boys or drag kids as we call them
48:53
here in this country. Follow the trajectory and it's not hard to see where we go next.
48:59
Ten years ago, there was no such thing as drag kids or drag queen story hours. Leftis
49:04
would have called you a paranoid lunatic had you predicted that such things would come
49:07
to pass. Now both are utterly commonplace yet leftis will insist that even though grown
49:12
men in dresses like to hang out with little children at libraries and adults like to go
49:17
to gay bars to watch boys dance around in skirts and high heels, there is nothing sexual
49:21
about any of it. Ten years from now, or maybe sooner, they will admit that this is sexual
49:27
but insists that there is nothing wrong with a young boy or a grown man getting together,
49:31
or young boy and a grown man getting together. So long as it is consensual. You don't need
49:36
to be Nostradamus to see this next step. It is right in front of us, clear as day.
49:42
Some is an active threat to our children. This is why we cannot compromise with it or seek
49:47
common ground. What kind of common ground can a sane and moral person find with those
49:52
who think it's acceptable to have a 10 year old perform at a gay bar. It is an evil ideology
49:58
through and through and we must defeat it or else watch our children be destroyed by it.
50:04
So again, guys, Matt Walsh has a very different kind of perspective and he comes out in a
50:09
different way, but you just got to look at it and understand that how is he wrong? Like
50:15
really reason through that in your brain. Even if you consider yourself to be more on
50:18
the left side of things, I don't care. This isn't a right wing conservative podcast. Even
50:22
though I hold a lot of those views, this is just a thing thing at this point. If you've
50:29
seen some of these videos, they're absolutely disturbing that I saw the video of the little
50:34
boy dancing at a gay bar in these men throwing dollar bills at this like nine year old boy
50:39
that's dressed up as a girl. I mean, it's insane. And the thing is is, what are the
50:46
parents doing? Like the parents actually think this is a normal thing until it gets a little
50:53
bit out of hand. There was actually this thing that came up a couple of weeks ago where there
50:57
was this mom that was quote unquote disturbed by a pedophile that was lusting over her 12
51:03
year old drag queen son. Think about how ridiculous that is that I even had to read that sentence.
51:11
Okay. So this pedophile was basically giving approval to her son and basically she was
51:17
like, Oh, that's disturbing. But she's the one that brought the boy. She's the one that
51:24
brought him to this event where he could be lusted over by a grown man while he's sitting
51:31
there in women's clothing, girls clothing that presumably the mother provided for him. It's
51:39
insanity. It's insipid. But that's the thing guys is this is all part of the game plan to
51:47
normalize this. And for us as Christians, we have to understand where this is coming from.
51:52
The United States is being given over to over to our sin. In this country, we've killed
51:59
over 60 million babies in the last 40 years, 60 million babies in the womb. We're allowing
52:03
things like like gay marriage and we're allowing things like this transgenderism to sweep over.
52:08
And we think it's just harmless that, you know, a biological boy is competing against
52:12
the girls in high school sport. It's like, Oh, that's no big deal. We think these things
52:16
are no big deal. And I bet you this mom thought it was no big deal until a grown man started
52:23
lusting after her 12 year old son, the 12 year old son that she thought it was maybe
52:29
just a phase or maybe she thought it was cute that he wanted to dress in women's clothing.
52:33
Or as we've seen with some places, the women are actually encouraging their boys to wear
52:38
girls clothes, almost telling them to do so at threat of punishment. This is going in
52:45
a certain direction, guys. And a lot of guys don't like talking about this. I mean, even
52:50
just I brought this up that I was doing research for this podcast. And a lot of guys didn't
52:54
really have a whole lot to say. They're like, Oh, that's kind of weird. It's like, yeah,
52:57
it is weird. But it's right in front of us. I mean, do you remember what your reaction
53:02
was the first time you heard about a drag queen story hour in your community? This is
53:06
part of their plan. This is part of the secularist plan. Again, you don't get drag queen story
53:13
hour when you have a Judeo Christian worldview that's soaked in the reality of the gospel.
53:18
You don't get that. But for a lot of you guys, you have to think to yourselves, is this okay?
53:24
Because there's a lot of liberal denominations out there that are allowing homosexuals in
53:29
the pulpit. They're allowing transgenderism around people I even heard about. There was
53:34
a pastor that's inviting this drag queen to come and speak to his church. Talk about normalization.
53:40
The thing about it is, is this doesn't mean that we shouldn't be there for these people
53:46
and that we should chastise them to the point where we can't even share the gospel with them.
53:49
That's not what we're talking about. But at what point are we going to stand up for truth?
53:53
At what point are we going to call a spade a spade? This is unacceptable. And for those
53:59
who've got there with kids, am I wrong? Drag queen story hour, if they brought one in to
54:06
speak to your first graders class, would you be the first parent down there to complain?
54:13
Would you pull your kids out of that school to put them in a private school or a Christian
54:17
school or homeschool? Would you would you be willing to do that? Or is it, ah, you know,
54:21
it's just kind of harmless. They're probably not even going to remember that that happened.
54:25
You can't underestimate how big these experiences are for kids and how much it directs their
54:31
paths for the future. Things that they see as normal as their 5, 6, 7, 10, 12 years old,
54:37
they see as normal for the most part for the remainder of their lives unless they have
54:41
some sort of other worldly transfiguring experience like potentially becoming a Christ follower.
54:48
And so for all of you guys, I know this was a tough subject for a lot of people. And this
54:52
is kind of a weird thing to talk about in this manner. But at the same time, you guys
54:56
got to get real. This is all around us. And it's not going to just go away either. A
55:02
lot of the reason why these guys don't have a whole lot to say because they figure if
55:05
they just keep their head down and, you know, plug their ears long enough that this isn't
55:08
going to happen anymore, that this is just a phase that all of a sudden the drag queens
55:11
aren't going to be at the library the next time that they show up. Get real guys, it's
55:16
only going to get worse. All right, guys, before we let you go, we're going to do a quick resilience
55:20
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55:40
one was let's be mature about pedophilia. And then I've got the entire episode where we
55:45
basically get to Matt Walsh making the argument that the left is normalizing pedophilia. And
55:49
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