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This is Undaunted Life Man's Podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.
0:44
All right, guys. I'm coming at you on a different day than normal. We obviously,
0:48
we don't do this very often. I think this might be just the second time. Unfortunately,
0:51
it's for very similar circumstances. Obviously, I wanted to talk to you guys about the Islamic
0:56
terrorist attack that took place in Sri Lanka on Easter over the weekend. I know most of you
1:01
have heard about this. You've gotten the news from wherever you get your news, whether you get it
1:04
on Twitter or cable news or wherever you get that. But for those of you that are maybe not up to
1:09
the details, these are the latest details of the recording of this podcast. I'm recording this
1:14
podcast on Monday, the 22nd. What I'm going to do is I'm going to read an article by Emily Zenoti
1:20
over at the Daily Wire. It's called Sri Lankan death toll rises to nearly 300 as authorities admit
1:26
they received threats. So I'm just going to go ahead and read through this. So you guys have
1:30
kind of the latest because this article I found has a conglomeration of a lot of different outlets
1:34
reporting on this entire thing. So I'm going to go ahead and read that article here. Okay.
1:38
Sri Lankan officials now say nearly 300 people have died from a series of suicide bomber attacks
1:44
that took place on Sunday, ripping through churches and hotels as the country's Catholic
1:48
and Christian communities began their celebration of the Easter holiday. The Sri Lankan government
1:53
also admitted Monday that it had quote prior information, unquote, about the attacks
1:58
according to Reuters, but did little to act on what authorities now believe were specific threats
2:02
issued by a quote little known Islamic group, unquote, called National Tahid Jamath. I believe
2:09
I'm saying that right. But that's just one going with National Tahid Jamath operating within the
2:13
country. Quote, some intelligence officers were aware of the this incidents. Therefore, there was
2:19
a delay in action, serious action needs to be taken as to why this warning was ignored. Unquote
2:24
a Sri Lankan telecommunications minister told media Sunday night. Another minister noted that
2:28
administrators in his division had also received threats indicating that two jihadist suicide bombers
2:33
were planning attacks, but that he'd heard the attacks would be assassinations, not mass terror
2:38
attacks. Reuters reports that certain Sri Lankan officials admitted to hearing about threats
2:43
against quote prominent churches, unquote, more than a week ago from quote, a foreign intelligence
2:48
agency, unquote, but ministers and police weren't given any information. But Sunday night, at least
2:54
two dozen people were arrested in connection with the bombings, which have much may have gone on for
2:58
days, based on what authorities found in several raids on houses near the Sri Lankan capital of
3:03
Colombo. The Wall Street Journal reports that 85 additional detonators were found abandoned in a
3:08
bus station, signaling that the jihadists had planned to carry out a series of terror attacks,
3:13
and that the Easter Sunday bombings were just the beginning. Investigators are also looking into
3:18
whether national Tahit Jamath, which is virtually unknown to on the international terrorism scene
3:23
until yesterday, has ties to much larger terror organizations operating abroad, or whether Sunday's
3:28
terror attacks are connected to members of ISIS, many of whom are returning to their home states,
3:33
including Sri Lanka, now that the caliphate has all but collapsed in the Middle East. National Tahit
3:38
Jamath is the Jerusalem Post report new to the scene and the brainchild of an Islamic extremist
3:43
preacher named Malvi Zaran Hashiem. And this isn't the first time authorities have run into Malvi
3:49
Zaran Hashiem's handiwork. His organization has been prosecuted in the past for denigrating
3:54
Buddhists, and he had reportedly planned to bomb Sri Lankan's Indian High Commission earlier this
3:59
month but was thwarted. Authorities have yet to officially admit a connection between the attacks
4:04
and the preacher, but they have been clear that the bombings are the work of an organized Islamic
4:09
jihadists, all of whom are Sri Lankan citizens. No one has claimed responsibility in the attack,
4:14
a rarity for Islamic terrorism. The attacks were certainly organized and involved at least eight
4:20
explosions at seven key targets, three churches and four hotels. Six of the attacks the Wall Street
4:25
General reports were carried out by suicide bombers. Other attacks were most certainly planned and at
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least one attack, a car bomb attack outside the St. Anthony shrine near Colombo failed. The bomb
4:35
apparently did not go off as planned. Another bomb near Sri Lankan Sri Lanka's airport was found
4:40
dismantled before an attack could be carried out. The official death toll from Sunday's attacks
4:45
rose sharply overnight from near 200 to near 300 with more deaths expected and the injured count
4:51
has also risen to nearly 500 at least 32 of the dead are foreigners. Two of those are believed to be
4:57
American. So obviously this is a horrific, horrific tragedy. And I know that word tragedy is thrown
5:03
around quite often. But I think this certainly makes the cut of something that is tragic. Anytime
5:08
that somebody is killed in their place of worship, regardless of the place of worship. So these
5:13
feelings could be held for for what happened to the Jews, I believe in Pennsylvania here in the
5:17
United States, what happened to the Muslims in New Zealand and certainly what happened to the
5:20
Christians in Sri Lanka. It's a horrible thing to be worshiping, to be serving your God, to be
5:26
praying, to be doing any of those things and to suffer an attack like this. It's absolutely
5:30
grut wrenching. And for me as a Christian and for you that are Christians that are out there listening
5:34
to this, it's got to feel a little bit different to you as well. That's not to say again, we all
5:38
have the Amago day, we're all equal in God's eyes. However, this does come a little bit closer
5:43
to home for us because these are our brothers and sisters. And for us as Westerners, I mean,
5:46
we wake up and there's no threat of persecution. There's no threat of genocide. There's no threat
5:51
of anything. The worst thing that happens to you as a Christian in the United States is someone
5:54
says something off color to you in the office, right? Because they know you're a Christian and
5:58
they're going to try to offend you by saying Jesus is like the spaghetti monster in the sky
6:02
or something like that. Or you know, it's just one of those deals. But this is, this is terrifying.
6:06
And there's no telling how high the death toll is going to go. There are obviously dozens,
6:11
dozens and dozens of people that are still in critical condition. These people might end up
6:15
losing their lives, which will be more people claimed in this terrorist attack. So it's very
6:20
sad. And I wanted to give this about 24 hours before I would give my thoughts on in 24 hours to
6:26
really mainly let a lot of the information come in. Because in that time, there's still a lot of panic.
6:31
It's hard to kind of figure out what numbers look like whenever they're still going through
6:36
triage and still trying to figure out where everybody is. I've seen some video and some pictures of
6:42
the attack and they're absolutely gruesome. I mean, I'm not going to put any of them in the show
6:46
notes here. So obviously you guys have Google if you just desperately want to see the brutality
6:50
and what happened after these bombs went off, you can certainly go find that. But a terrible,
6:54
terrible thing that was basically done in the name of Muhammad, done in the name of Allah.
7:00
And I think we need to be clear about that. But before we get too far into the Islamic
7:05
part of what we're all doing here, it was very interesting to me and certainly to a lot of other
7:10
people, because I'm not the first person to point this out, how certain people decided to react.
7:14
And it just so happens that a lot of these reactions were very similar to one another.
7:19
And then it also just so happens that most of these people happen to be on the political left.
7:24
Again, when the right does something that's gross and stupid, I want to be one of the first
7:28
people to raise my hand and say, Hey, I'm more so aligned with these people. But what a stupid
7:33
thing for them to say and do, right? Again, if for any of you that have talked to me for any
7:37
length, and I'm certain that I've said some things similar here on this podcast, I like to call
7:41
balls and strikes with with guys like Trump or with anybody that's on my side of the aisle,
7:45
whether I support them or not, like I want to be able to call balls and strikes. But
7:48
the reactions to this were unbelievably interesting from three key people. Former President Barack
7:54
Obama, former presidential candidate, multiple time presidential candidate Hillary Clinton,
7:59
and a Texas congressman named Joaquin Castro. Okay, so on Twitter, these are all things that
8:05
were posted on Twitter within hours of the attack. And I just want to read to you in succession what
8:10
Obama Clinton and Castro said. So we'll start with Barack Obama, quote, the attacks on tourists
8:16
and Easter worshipers in Sri Lanka are an attack on humanity. On a day devoted to love, redemption,
8:21
and renewal, we pray for the victims and stand with the people of Sri Lanka. End quote. Here's
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Hillary Clinton, quote, on this holy weekend for many faiths, we must stand united against hatred
8:33
and violence. I'm praying for everyone affected by today's horrific attacks on Easter worshipers
8:39
and travelers in Sri Lanka, unquote. And then here's Castro, quote, the brutal and senseless
8:45
attacks in Sri Lanka have brought grief to a day founded on joy. My prayers are with those
8:51
who lost their loved ones today. To all those celebrating Easter, we must recommit on today of
8:56
all days to stamp out the scourge of hate across the world. End quote. So let's talk about what was
9:04
said here in those three very, very short quotes. We saw Easter worshipers. So that was quoted here
9:12
Easter worshipers, another way of saying it was all those celebrating Easter. Then we had the word
9:19
tourists and the word travelers. Okay. So now let's talk about what wasn't said, perhaps the word
9:28
Christians. Maybe that would have been the easier word to use than Easter worshipers. What also
9:34
wasn't said was Islam, Islamic terrorism, Muslim, we didn't get any of those words. But we got
9:42
Easter worshipers and all those celebrating Easter. It's pretty, pretty interesting. If nothing else,
9:49
it was almost as if these were coordinated, these responses, as if this was part of a plan
9:55
or talking points. But I also want to contrast that. We don't have, I don't have any comments
9:59
from Castro on this. But I want you to kind of notice the difference with the tone and tinner
10:05
of what Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton said after the white supremacist attack in New Zealand a
10:10
couple of months ago. So for those of you who who don't know what that's about, go back to episode
10:15
67 of this podcast is called kia kaha. I go into detail about what happened there. But this is a
10:20
white supremacist that attacked Muslims inside of two separate mosques. So let's look at the different
10:25
tweets that were sent out after that attack. So here's Barack Obama. Quote, Michelle and I send
10:29
our condolences to the people of New Zealand. We must grieve with you and the Muslim community.
10:34
All of us must stand against hatred in all its forms. Unquote. Here's Hillary Clinton. Quote,
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my heart breaks for New Zealand and the global Muslim community. We must continue to fight the
10:45
perpetuation and normalization of Islamophobia and racism in all its forms. White supremacist
10:51
terrorists must be condemned by leaders everywhere. Their murderous hatred must be stopped. Unquote.
10:57
So now let's look at this. What was said? We saw the word Muslim used. We saw Islamophobia used
11:05
racism, white supremacist terrorists and murderous hatred, murderous hatred. Now let's talk about
11:12
what wasn't said. And what wasn't said was nothing. Everything that was important was said. Everything.
11:22
Those two quotes there, I couldn't agree with them more. If I could have liked them multiple times,
11:28
I would have. Because our hearts should break for New Zealand and the global Muslim community
11:34
after something like that. Absolutely. We must grieve with the Muslim community.
11:40
I mean, we must stand against white supremacist terrorists. We must do those things.
11:45
But the thing that's interesting here is why weren't they as specific on the previous quotes?
11:52
Why did they say Easter worshipers instead of Christians? Is that not the least bit interesting?
12:00
That we didn't get this call to action that we must stand against hatred, especially those that
12:05
hate Christians? Did we get something like that? You know, if Jews had been attacked, you know,
12:11
this was over Passover, right? It was a similar weekend for those types of people. What would the
12:17
talking points have been then? Passover worshipers? Passover observers? Why the difference in the
12:24
specificity of things? And this begs the question is that are semantics that important? Because you
12:31
might be thinking to yourself, Oh, this is just kind of semantics. But as I was thinking through this,
12:35
I saw a tweet by Ali Beth Stucky. And I think she nailed it here. And here's her tweet, quote,
12:39
I'm seeing a lot of people say that semantics aren't that big of a deal. Strongly disagree.
12:43
When every single top Democrat use the same phrase and downright refuses to use the word
12:49
Christian despite Christians being the number one target of religious harassment in the world,
12:54
it's intentional. Now, some of this language sounds familiar. You might be thinking back to
12:59
episode 47 of this podcast, it was called persecution and genocide. So that one, I went into detail
13:04
about this report called the persecution and forgot their persecuted and forgotten rather.
13:09
And it's a report on Christians oppressed for their faith in 2015 through 2017. And it shows
13:14
that Christians were the most persecuted group of any other people group in terms of religious
13:20
circles than any other group in the world, right? This report was put together by aid to the church
13:25
in need. And this was something that you just, I'm not going to, you know, rehash the main points
13:29
of that podcast, but it's horrific what Christians are going through on a regular basis in countries
13:35
all over the world. When we look at the numbers, even to today, like, you know, I'd be like, Oh,
13:39
that was 2015 things are different now because of, you know, Trump or global warming or whatever
13:44
the thing that you want to say that is even to this day on a monthly basis, Christians are killed
13:49
more often just for the fact that they are Christians than any other people group on the planet.
13:53
Well, except for unborn babies, but, you know, we won't necessarily dive into abortion on this
13:58
podcast, but you know the drill. But the thing that was interesting, and I thought this was really
14:01
well how, how this person pointed it out, but Matt Walsh from the Daily Wire in his podcast
14:05
today was talking about, can you imagine what would have happened if we would have described,
14:10
or anybody would have described the victims of the Pulse nightclub shooting that was in Orlando
14:15
several years back as, you know, bar hoppers murdered, or, you know, club hoppers murdered.
14:22
No, these people were specifically targeted because it was a gay nightclub.
14:27
And the person specifically targeted them because they were gay. That was an integral part to the
14:34
story. So, so the Muslims in Sri Lanka, these jihadists, these were people that were just trying
14:39
to find random places to blow up. These were coordinated attacks that were meant to kill as many
14:45
Christians, believers in Christ as possible. So, yes, semantics are really, really important here.
14:52
Right? I mean, if we're, if we're being equal here, I thought it was ridiculous that on,
14:57
you know, on Easter, that we saw so many people that were just hopping on this issue, and they
15:02
immediately tried to politicize it. The thing about it is, is we should be able to call it
15:06
Muslim fundamentalist terrorists. Like, we should be able to say that without people thinking,
15:11
oh my gosh, is this guy in Islam a folk? Because that's one thing that shuts down conversations
15:15
about what should happen in the Muslim communities and in these different areas is when you just
15:18
straight up call someone in Islam a folk just because they're, you know, basically saying that
15:22
they're concerned. It's a problem, I think. And this begs the next question, which aren't these
15:27
just radicals, though? We always hear that. It's always radical Muslims, right? Radical jihadist.
15:34
But here's the thing, guys, the scary answer is, no, these aren't just radicals. These are
15:43
fundamentalist. Like, and when I'm saying, you know, they like who they are, I'm talking about ISIS,
15:50
the Taliban, al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood, Boko Haram, this new group, National Tahit,
15:55
Jamaf, and all the other different ones that you can think of. These are fundamentalist.
15:59
And guys, just to be honest with you, like, I'm not fully prepared to go into a deep dive into Islam.
16:06
That's something I'm actually planning on doing here with you guys here in the next few months or so.
16:10
I want to kind of do a much deeper dive and give you guys some more details.
16:13
But I do want to go into a couple of different areas because I want you guys to be armed
16:18
with the truth whenever you wherever you get your news, whether it's CNN or Fox or MSNBC or
16:22
Twitter or the New York Times or Wall Street Journal. I don't care. I want you whenever you hear
16:26
certain things to I want you to look at it a little bit of scan because every time someone says
16:30
radical Muslims on the right or the left, I'm like, are they radicals, though? There's very,
16:36
very few people that say fundamentalist Islam is the reason for this. And so again, without going
16:42
into to to straight a detail, for those of you that aren't really aware, you know, in the Christian
16:48
world, we just have the Bible that is essentially the gathering of God's declaratives to us as humans,
16:54
right? There's not really anything outside the Bible that we hold in as much esteem as the Bible,
16:58
right? But that is different in the Muslim community. They have the Quran, which obviously most of us
17:02
know about that's the word of God as dictated to Muhammad by the Archangel Gabriel, right?
17:07
It's written in Arabic. And one thing that you may not know is that if you're a true Muslim,
17:12
you're supposed to be able to read the Quran in Arabic because it was only supposed to be
17:17
read in Arabic, right? That was the the meaning. It could only be read in Arabic that you can't
17:21
really get the full of what's going on in that book. If you read it after it's been translated,
17:26
that's what they believe. But you also have something called the Hadith. That's H-A-D-I-T-H,
17:30
the Hadith. This is essentially a massive collection of traditions that contain sayings and stories
17:38
about the prophet Muhammad, right? So it's kind of one of those things that if you don't find
17:42
your answer in the Quran, you can find it in the Hadith, right? And there's a lot of people that
17:46
act out a lot of the things that they do on a daily basis because of what it says inside the Hadith.
17:50
But one thing that's really, really important to know about the Quran specifically, again,
17:55
I'm just basically glancing over all these things, is you have to understand the concept of
17:59
abrogation. And I promise this is going somewhere. So you have to understand the concept of abrogation,
18:04
okay? So abrogation basically means is the writings that were done latest, right? So the latest
18:11
writings that we have, a lot of those things have taken the place of previous writings, right? So
18:18
imagine you're, you know, driving down a street and the, you know, the speed limit used to be 35,
18:23
but now it's 40, right? You can't be pulled over if you're going 39 miles an hour and be written a
18:29
ticket because it used to be 35. And I know that's kind of a silly example, but hopefully that makes
18:33
sense. Like the law had been abrogated, it used to be 35, but now it's 40, we are going by that new
18:39
speed limit. So as long as you don't go over 40, you're good to go, right? The reason why that's
18:43
important is because for a lot of people that are trying to study the Quran, it's very, very
18:47
difficult to get any type of a read on the Quran, because it's not really set up in the same way that,
18:53
you know, a Bible would be or a historical book that kind of starts from the beginning and works
18:57
its way to the latest time period. It's just kind of a little bit of a jumbled mess. But the ninth
19:03
Surah, so Surah, Su R A H Surah, it's like chapter then or book, right? So it's a ninth book of the
19:11
Quran, that is the least abrogated text that we have. Okay, the least abrogated, which means it was the
19:18
most recent revelation to Muhammad, right? And so there's a lot of peaceful texts that people will
19:25
quote from the Quran. And they think they're quoting it to display that, you know, this is some sort of
19:30
a peaceful religion. But what they don't understand is that a lot of those texts have been abrogated.
19:34
It's like, Oh, no, that's not really important anymore. So to kind of, you know, further that
19:39
point, just a little bit, I'm going to read a section from Nabil Kureshi's book. May he rest in
19:43
peace, but no God but one Allah or Jesus, I'm actually going to be going through this book with a group
19:48
of guys on my Sunday night crew. So if you're listening to this and you are in the Oklahoma City
19:51
area, come to the forge in Edmond, that's a jujitsu gym at seven o'clock. We are this week, if you're
19:56
listening to this on time, we are starting this book and we are going to be reading it and going
19:59
through it and discussing it and kind of arguing our way through this book together. But I want
20:03
to read you this quote here because it'll kind of shed some more light on Surah 9. So here's the
20:07
quote from the Bill Kureshi quote, I began to investigate this matter of violence. There are
20:11
violent verses in the Quran, but because there are also peaceful verses, I believed at first that
20:16
their context was defensive fighting. As I went deeper, I realized that was simply not the case.
20:22
For example, Surah 9 is the last major chapter to have been composed and is also the most
20:27
violent chapter in the Quran, see verses five 29 through 33 and 111 as some examples.
20:34
These verses are frightening commanding Muslims to fight and kill non-Muslims, saying that Allah
20:39
has made Islam to prevail over all religions and that Muslims must slay in battle. It seems that
20:45
Surah 9 as the final major chapter that Muhammad left for Muslims was intended as marching orders
20:51
for the Muslim community. And they certainly treated the chapter that way. That is why within 150
20:57
years of Muhammad's death, Muslims had conquered one third of the known world. Unquote. Okay. And
21:02
so again, I realized I need to kind of back up for those of you who don't know who Nabil Kureshi is.
21:06
So Nabil Kureshi was a Muslim. I believe he was a Salafi Muslim. You normally have
21:10
Sunnis and Chias, but he was of a different sect and he kind of grew up basically trying to be an
21:15
apologist for Islam. And in his book, Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus, obviously, most people know this
21:21
by now, he had a Christian that basically engaged with him over a long period of time. And then he
21:26
eventually became a Christian himself. Nabil did. And so he became a member of Ravi Zachariah's team.
21:31
And so he was traveling all the world talking about Islam and talking about why he converted
21:35
to Christianity. This guy lost his entire family. I mean, it's just different in the Muslim world.
21:40
It's just not even comparable to what we see today. Whenever you it'd be like you, like if you were
21:45
to go from one church to another in your hometown, it's not really that big a deal. But can you
21:49
imagine if leaving that church was almost like leaving America as well? Like, not only were you
21:54
no longer a part of First Baptist West, you know, in Lawton, Oklahoma, you also were no longer an
21:59
American if you started to go to a different church, right? It'd just be kind of a different
22:03
different thing, right? That would just kind of be a little bit silly. So it just a very, very deep
22:06
thing that this man had to go through. And I think it was just over a year ago now, he actually died
22:11
of stomach cancer. So he had a really horrible bout with stomach cancer. And he lost that bout.
22:16
But we do have some amazing books that he's left over. And we'll talk some more about those
22:19
here in a little bit. But also, also from another book that he wrote, the one that I just talked
22:23
about seeking law of finding Jesus, that one kind of reads more like a memoir of kind of how he found
22:29
Christ. There's a lot where he goes into different details about the fact that Islam is not a peaceful
22:36
religion. That's what you always hear is like, Oh, Islam, it's it's about peace and it's about
22:40
loving your neighbor and all these different things. And you know, Boko Haram and al-Qaeda and
22:43
all these groups, like they're not really doing it the way that it should be done. But I want to read
22:47
three different sections from seeking the law of finding Jesus that kind of give a little bit more
22:51
light into those different things. So here's the first section here. Quote, differences aside is
22:55
worth noting that a great deal of overlap exists between the majorities of Muslims. For example,
23:01
all four major schools of Sunni thought and all three major schools of Shia thought teach that
23:06
people who leave Islam must be killed for their apostasy, disagreeing only on the details of
23:11
qualifying circumstances and implementation. Only outlying groups such as liberal Muslims
23:16
and Ahmadis disagree with the time honored practice. Unquote. And so for those of you who aren't really
23:22
aware, if you were to group up Sunnis and she is, that makes up pretty much 100% of the Muslims in
23:28
the world. I mean, Sunnis are by far the biggest group and then you have Shia's but you know,
23:33
all the other small sex, all of them combined don't even compare. They don't even come close.
23:38
It is overwhelmingly Sunni and Shia. And so those two groups, that's what they think is if somebody
23:45
leaves the Muslim religion, if they leave, then they are an apostate and the circumstance for them,
23:52
even though like it said here, the qualifying circumstances are a little bit different. But
23:55
those people are to be killed. That's why you'll hear these stories and you're just like, what,
24:00
you know, someone in Iraq or Iran or something like that, you'll hear a story about these individuals
24:04
like where, you know, the daughter becomes a Christian and the father says, if I ever see my
24:08
daughter again, I will be the one to kill her. You know, you hear these stories and you're like,
24:11
that's just what it's 2019. That doesn't even make sense. But that is something that these people
24:15
believe. Again, not a peaceful religion. Let's go to the next section here. Quote,
24:19
through selective quotation, Muhammad becomes the picture perfect prophet. The vast body of Hadith in
24:25
Sierra literature, particularly enables this phenomenon. If a Western Muslim wants to paint a
24:30
peaceful portrait of Muhammad, all they have to do is quote peaceful Hadith in verses of the Quran
24:35
to the exclusion of the violent ones. If an Islamic extremist wants to mobilize his followers to
24:40
acts of terrorism, he will quote the violent references to the exclusion of the peaceful ones.
24:45
This method of selective quotation is pervasive, often egregious. For example, the Quranic verse
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that I have seen quoted more often than any other to defend a peaceful view of Islam is 532.
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I've seen it cited on CNN, MSNBC, ABC and innumerable double materials to show that the Quran discourages
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murder. What each of these references omitted was the first line of the verse,
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which makes it explicit that the prohibition of murder was directed specifically to the Jews.
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It was not a teaching sent to Muslims. It is the next verse that directly relates to Islam and
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Muslims. Quote, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive upon
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earth, unquote, to cause corruption is none, but that they be killed or crucified, or that their
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hands and feet be cut off from the opposite sides or that they will be exiled from the land. Unquote.
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Unfortunately, that verse is also ignored in the process of selective quotation. Unquote,
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I think I got the quotes a little jacked up in there, but I think you guys completely understand
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there. That is a quote. And that is something that I highlighted years ago when I read this book,
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and I come back to it often. Because the thing about it is we always talk about, you know,
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text is just text without context, right? You know, you have to have context for things to be
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that important. But again, to see something, you know, I would normally say something along the lines
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is if you can attribute something to stupidity, you shouldn't attribute it to malice or if you
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can attribute it to ignorance, you shouldn't attribute it to malice. But I think some of the
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people that are quoting verses like that, they're certainly doing it on purpose. So they're trying
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to make Muhammad look like this peaceful guy that only fought defensive wars. And again, I'm not
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doing a deep dive into Islam today, but that's just not the reality. And we got one last quote
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here from the same book seeking a law finding Jesus. So here we go, the quote, as I continued
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reading from volume one had three, I found many had teeth with teachings I had heard often,
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including that Muslims should avoid harming others as we see in 110 feed the poor and greet strangers
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kindly as we see in 111 and even follow the golden rule as we see in 112. No doubt this was the
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loving peaceful Islam I had always known. But when I arrived at Hadith 124, my jaw dropped in it,
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Muhammad says quote, I have been ordered by Allah to fight against people until they testify that
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none has the right to be worshiped by Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle and offer the
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prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, then they will save their lives and property from
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me. Unquote, were my eyes playing tricks on me? Muhammad was saying that he would fight people
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until they became Muslim or until he killed them and took their property. That was impossible.
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It rain counter to everything I knew about Muhammad. And it was contradict and it contradicted the
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Quran's clear statement that quote, there is no compulsion in religion. Unquote, I simply could
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not believe it. And so I hurriedly moved on to the next Hadith. But 125 said that the greatest
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thing a Muslim can do after having faith is to engage in jihad. As if to clarify what kind of
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jihad Sahib Bukhari clarifies quote, religious fighting, unquote, unquote. So again, this is
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somebody and you might say, Oh, this guy's a Christian, whenever he's writing this, obviously,
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he has a dog in the fight. What exactly was his dog in the fight here? He lost his entire life.
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He literally gave up his entire life and his entire family to follow Jesus. Something that most of
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us don't have to say, right? You know, some of us have, you know, maybe it's our dad or, you know,
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our aunt or somebody, things get awkward when you try to pray at Christmas dinner or whatever the
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thing might be, or you might have, you know, a couple of family members that like to poke at you
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because they're atheists. And you know, they just want to say, Oh, you're so illogical and all those
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different things. But the thing that's important to remember is most of us give up nothing to worship
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Jesus. Nothing. In a year we might not get invited to one party or it might be excluded for one,
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you know, group text or something like that if we're a Christian, but for the most of us,
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we don't suffer anything for Jesus. So a guy like Nabil Kureshi, he put his in literally his
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entire life on the line in order to do this. Like the level of security, as far as I can understand,
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the level of security that he had to have from our RZIM events and things like that that he was
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going to just because he used to be a Muslim. I mean, think about that. If you're a Muslim and you
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take seriously the the ramifications of apostasy, that's a guy that you need to kill. And again,
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this isn't about, you know, it's extremism. This isn't about being radicalized. You hear
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about these guys getting radicalized, you know, when when a Navy SEAL goes over there and kills,
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you know, a bunch of terrorists, it's like, Oh, well, that's just going to radicalize that those
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terrorist cousins and brothers and all those different things. No, no, no, no. This is the
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reality of that religion in its most basic form. And this is the scary part. And Nabil Kureshi was
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the first person to point this out to me. And then I've certainly seen others say that,
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is the scary part is, is those people in those terrorist organizations, those are the ones that
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are following the text of the Quran most closely. I mean, just think about that. That's that should
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scare all of us. That that's something that almost 2 billion people on the planet believe,
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right? And within the next, I don't know, I've heard I've heard different people say this,
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but within the next 20 to 30 years, the dominant world religion will be as long unless something
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else happens if we just look at current statistical trends. So the overwhelming majority of people
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on the planet will believe things like this. And I'm not trying to say these things just to
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be an alarmist. I'm just like, it's almost like I'm just reporting the news. Like, did y'all know
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it said that in the Quran? Did y'all even know what the hadith was? Do you know how seriously a lot
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of Muslims around the world take the hadith? I mean, because I know a lot of this and I would
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certainly put myself in this category. All the Muslims, you know, are just nice people, right?
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You know, you know, a lot of Muslims that are better than your Christian friends and that kind of a
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thing. But that's not what we're talking about here. We're not talking about anecdotal evidence
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about people that we know from, you know, back home or people that are, you know, living down the
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street. And I'm not saying you need to like turn in your neighbors to the police here. But it is
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something to be concerned about that. This is what their book says. Because here's the thing about
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most Christians that I want to kind of bring this back to us. Most Christians don't do what the
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Bible says, y'all. I mean, you know this. And that's all of us. That's me included. We know stuff is
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written in the Bible and we know what it says, but we do something else anyway. Right? I mean,
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just think about the number of divorced people that go to your church. I mean, that's kind of an
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example of people like, Oh my gosh, that's so unfair. It's like, is it? I mean, Jesus talked
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about a lot of issues publicly, but he also talked about divorce. He's pretty clear on that issue.
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If you're divorced and you get married to somebody else, not only are you living in adultery,
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so is the other person now just from having married you, right? Unless you were, you know,
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divorced, or unless you left your previous spouse because they had died or, you know,
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adultery or something like that happened. But you know, we just kind of look over that one,
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we just kind of pass through. There's a lot of things in the Bible that we don't know because we
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don't read our Bibles. Like a Bible is just something that collects dust on the shelf or it's an app
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on your phone that's never open, right? That's what the Bible is for most of us because it's so
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easy to get to. We don't have that thirst for the Bible. We don't have, you know, Oh gosh, we're
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going to pass this one or two pieces of parchment around the village and we're just going to let
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everybody read it all at once just so we can all worship at these words, right? It's just so easy
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for us. Like we haven't had to really think through anything like that. But again, let's take this
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to the Quran. There's certainly Muslims that are just like that as well. They don't know what the
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Quran says. The overwhelming majority of what Muslims know to be true is given to them orally.
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It has passed on to them orally. Again, most Muslims believe, most serious Muslims believe that
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unless you're reading the Quran in Arabic, you're not reading the Quran. So if you're reading an
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English translation or a Spanish translation or a German translation or whatever thing might be,
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you're not reading the Quran. So the majority of the Muslims that you know, do they speak and read
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Arabic at least read Arabic? I mean, again, these are things that are concerning because what you have
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to think about is what about the people that do know what's in there? And what if they start doing
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those things that they see in there? What if they understand that the ninth surah is the least
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abrogated text that they have in the entirety of the Quran? What if these are the individuals that
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read the haddith and read about all the bloodshed and all the offensive battles that Muhammad and
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his people went on? I mean, gosh, like, that's the thing that's that's that's tough for me as when
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we go over things like this, right? Is at the end of the day, you can't avoid this? I mean,
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you just can't cut off the head of this snake. It's a worldview and it's deeper than any of us
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Western Americans can imagine again. It's like whenever you turn from being a Muslim again,
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when you leave being a Christian or you leave being a Jew or something like that, no one's coming for
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your head. No one's trying to blow up your house. It's a different deal entirely. And so
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we shouldn't be surprised when things like this happen. They're horrific when they do. I mean,
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the images are absolutely heartbreaking. They're just absolutely terrible, right? But the reason
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why I wanted to release this today is because for a lot of you guys by Thursday, when we normally
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release our podcast, you're probably not even going to be thinking about this anymore.
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And the other part of it is is most of the persecution and genocide that is happening around the world
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every single day to Christians we don't hear about because this is what Trump tweeted today.
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And this is what my favorite player you just signed this contract and oh, did you see that fight
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fell through because someone got hurt or you know, it's just one of those things. It's just not at
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the top of our brains. And again, if it's not someone that you knew, like it just doesn't feel the same.
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Oh, you know, 300 Sri Lankans dead. Man, that's terrible. No, it's more than that. 300 image
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bears have got or no longer alive because Muslim fundamentalist terrorists decided they wanted to
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kill them because that's what their book says. Man, it's just it's so disheartening and it's so
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hard to have that discussion with people because it's we just we just don't know what we don't know
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over here in the West. And that's not me advocating like, Oh, we really need to know what this is
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about. But for most people in the United States, they have not thought about this since 9/11.
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Like if you haven't followed what's happening in Iraq and in Afghanistan and Syria and you haven't
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been falling that closely. And if you don't have any friends of yours that have lost soldiers overseas
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and if you don't have it just doesn't hit home for for very many of us, right? But again,
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go back to episode 47 of this podcast persecution and genocide. It's terrifying what is happening to
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our brothers and sisters. And we should lament with them. So guys, I know this is a little bit
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of a somber podcast, but it wasn't meant to be an upbeat one. It's just it's a tough subject,
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but you know, we're just going to constantly keep going into that. So before we let you guys go,
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we're going to do a quick resilience boost. As you know, by now, we are men's ministry and
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our mission is cultivating mainly resilience. And specifically, we do things like this podcast
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to provide you guys with content that will help you forge spiritual, mental and physical toughness.
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So today we're going to give you guys some mental resilience and spiritual resilience. We're
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going to kind of give you a few resources. So the article that I read out the top Sherlock and
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death toll rises to nearly 300 as authorities admit they receive threats. I put that there for
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you guys because again, I had a lot of different resources inside of that. I don't have the links
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here because I don't know where most of y'all are listening to this, but obviously just flip
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back into your old episodes and listen to episode 47 persecution and genocide and episode 67 kia kaha.
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That'll kind of give you the undergirding of what we were talking about today. But then also,
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I left you with Nabil Kureshi's website. So obviously, I made mention of him. We read a lot of his quotes
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from two of his books. But if you go to his website, you can find a lot of his speaking
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engagements that he gave if you type his name into YouTube, you can find a lot of his stuff there.
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But also, you can just go to links for his books, seeking a law, finding Jesus, no God but one,
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Allah or Jesus. And then also book he wrote called answering jihad. And so those are three really,
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really fantastic books. Those are the books that kind of spawned a lot of my interest in studying
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Islam and kind of figuring out things that are going on there. So I think those will be good
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