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This is Undaunted Life, a Man's Podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.
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All right, guys, I would love to just go ahead and launch right in
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to part two of Toxic Masculinity. But wouldn't you know it?
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I can't do that because these pro-murder Democrats can't go a week.
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They can't go one week without doing something that's completely insanely demonic.
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It's incredible.
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Every time I record a podcast, I basically wait a day.
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And then there's big news that pops up in the world of abortion.
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So if you'll indulge me for just a little bit,
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I promise we're going to get into part two of Toxic Masculinity
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because I know a lot of you guys are excited about that.
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I've got to bring some things to your attention because hopefully you already knew about this.
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But if you don't, I got to let you know.
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So last week, about 24 hours after I recorded the podcast, Virginia,
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the state of Virginia, there was a bill that was introduced by
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House member and Democrat Kathy Tran.
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And this was Virginia House bill number 2491.
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And this would legalize abortion up to birth.
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So basically, thank you state of New York.
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You've done such a fantastic job.
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You were the seventh state to approve abortion basically up to the day of birth.
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And now everyone's just running around trying to see if they can be on the list next.
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You got Rhode Island. Now you got Virginia. It's just great.
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So Kathy Tran, she was challenged while she was presenting this bill.
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And she was pretty organized, kind of.
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But even if you watch the video, you can see that she's kind of grasping at straws at different points.
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But the guy that is questioning her, and I'm sorry, I couldn't find it in time.
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In order to record this, I couldn't find the guy that was questioning her.
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But I think it was a Republican that was on one of the committees that was accepting this bill.
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He challenged her on a couple of different things.
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And so what I want to do is I want to play the audio right now for you.
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Because I want you to hear this interaction between this gentleman and Kathy Tran.
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This bill would remove the following statutes, trap or targeted regulations of abortion providers,
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removing language classifying facilities that perform five or more first trimester abortions
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per month as hospitals. It would repeal Virginia's informed consent mandatory ultrasound in 24-hour
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delay. It would repeal the requirement that second trimester abortions be performed in a hospital
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licensed by the State Department of Health. It would repeal the requirement for two additional
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physicians in cases of third trimester abortions.
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Delegate Tran? Yes, sir.
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How late in a pregnancy would your bill apply if a physician would simply willing to certify that
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that the continuation of the pregnancy would impair the mental health of the woman?
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How late are we talking about in this?
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So the way the suggestion that we've made in the bill is to say it's in the third trimester
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and at the, you know, with the certification of the physician.
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So how late in the third trimester would you be able to do that?
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You know, it's very unfortunate that there are physicians, witnesses,
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were not able to attend today to speak specifically.
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No, I'm talking about your bill.
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How late in the third trimester could a physician perform an abortion if he indicated it would
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impair the mental health of the woman? Or physical health.
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Okay. I'm talking about the mental health.
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So, I mean, through the third trimester, the third trimester goes all the way up to 40 weeks.
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Okay. But to the end of the third trimester?
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Yep. I don't think we have a limit in the bill.
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So, where it's obvious that a woman is about to give birth.
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She has physical signs that she is about to give a birth.
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Would that still be a point at which she could request an abortion if she was so certified?
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She's dilating.
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Mr. Chairman, that would be a, you know, a decision that the doctor,
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the physician, and the woman-
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I understand that. I'm asking if your bill allows that.
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My bill would allow that, yes.
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I certainly could have said a week from her due date and that would have been the same answer, correct?
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That it's allowed in the bill? Yes.
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And in addition to what you just represented it, you do acknowledge that you substantially
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change the standard by removing a couple of words here, correct? Substantially?
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In your meeting? I'm sorry. Line 80?
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Line 80?
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Line 80.
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I'm sorry. Can you just tell me? I mean, I think I'm in the right part that you're looking at as well.
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Line 80?
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Line 80.
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You are changing this standard under which the judgment call is made.
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Yes, I know where.
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I'm going to throw it through Mr. Boy.
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Or for a, an abortion at any point in the third trimester?
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You're changing the standard?
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I'm changing the standard, yes.
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Okay, all right.
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What type of mental health conditions would you anticipate would be utilized by physicians
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under these circumstances to determine that a child that is otherwise viable is worthy of an abortion?
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You know, I, I mean, again, I'm not a physician, so I can't make those calls as to when a physician
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would determine that a woman's mental health is would, you know, would, where they would be
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able to certify an abortion at that point.
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But the doctor, the physician wouldn't have any, have to have to have any special,
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specialized training in mental health to make that determination under your bill, right?
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Under this bill? No.
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Okay. All right, thank you.
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Delegate Tran, what, what are some of the conditions that a woman could be experiencing
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in a third trimester, late-term pregnancy, for which abortion and not delivery would be
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the optimal result to protect either her life or health or that of the, the child, if that's
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even an interest, but what, what would be the, what, is there any commonly accepted medical decision to
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terminate the pregnancy in the late-term rather than deliver the child if the mother's health or
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life is actually in danger?
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You know, Mr. Chairman, I am aware that there are certain medical conditions where
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that might be an option for the mother, and I would actually turn over to Galena from May
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Roll to see if she has those specific medical examples.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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So, hi, I'm really short.
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Okay.
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I don't have a lot of specific examples because I'm not, I'm not a physician.
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I'm an attorney.
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So, and we unfortunately do not have the physicians could not be here today because
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they are seeing patients at the moment.
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I know that there are certain central nervous system anomalies that
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cannot be determined until later stages in the pregnancy.
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I also know that certain anomalies like the absence of certain organs.
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Okay.
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So, you're talking about the child.
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Now, let me just leave that out of the equation then in terms of the health or life of the mother,
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what conditions are there that can't be resolved by delivering the child rather
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than undergoing an abortion?
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Again, I am not a physician.
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What I can point to a case that happened in Ireland, that's the first one that comes to my mind,
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that I'm happy to find for you and send you the article about.
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I can definitely send you that article and if you'll give me some time, I can ask our physicians
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to provide you with a list of maladies that can lead to a woman having to have an abortion
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at the late stage of pregnancy.
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I do know that those cases exist.
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But you don't know what they are?
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Like I said, not a physician.
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I do not, do not have those specifics about the woman.
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I have some specifics about the fetus.
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I do not have the specifics about the woman.
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All right.
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And again, since you yielded, you don't have any, I'm telling you now, you don't have
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any specifics on that, obviously.
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No, I don't.
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Okay.
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Okay, well, we're talking about a lot of physician stuff here and nobody appears to know the
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answer and the doctors aren't here.
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So, you know, it would have been helpful maybe to have those questions answered.
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So I played the entire audio there for you because I wanted you to have all of it.
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Because anytime that someone on this part of the party, you know, the left wing,
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the Democratic party now, the mainstream Democratic party, when they say things like this,
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they want to say, oh, well, I was taken out of context.
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Well, if you look at the entire clip, well, if you listen to the entirety of the audio,
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you'll be able to get my context and my genius through which I was able to present this bill
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or this law or this idea.
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But I want you to hear it all because every time she was pressed, she evaded.
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And then she sent it over to another gal who was like, oh, well, I'm not a physician either.
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And then it was evasion evasion evasion.
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Wasn't it so interesting that there were no physicians available?
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Because I feel like the physicians would have been pegged pretty easily by the guy that was
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doing the questioning.
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The guy that was doing the questioning was really calm.
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Just asking very, very basic questions.
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He wanted to get her on the record to say what she wanted to say,
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which is that we in the Democratic Party want abortion up until the day of birth as of right now,
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as of right now.
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And I'm saying that because I'm assuming they're going to want to extend that later.
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And we have a few more hints that I'll get to here in just a second.
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So the interesting thing about Kathy Tran, is she introduces this bill and she's widely
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criticized for it, not only for her performance up there in front of the committee, but just for
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basically bringing it up in general.
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But that same day, this is insane.
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That same day that she introduced House Bill 2491, she introduced House Bill 2495,
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which would limit the use of pesticides in the state of Virginia in order to protect the lives of,
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wait for it, gypsy moths and canker worms, otherwise known as inch worms.
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So earlier in the day, she wants to get legislation that I'm assuming she wanted past
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that she's claiming now that she never read, which is absolutely absurd,
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where we can eliminate the life, murder of the life, extinguish the life of a baby
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up to the day of their birth.
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But you know what, we got to take care of these moss and inch worms, guys.
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I mean, that that is the existential crisis of our age.
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If we can't protect these moss and inch worms, what can we do as a society?
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Think about that.
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And you would think that that would be the craziest thing that was said
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in the state of Virginia by a Democrat that day.
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And I know it seems like I'm going a little bit political,
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but these people are Democrats.
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I'm just pointing out exactly what they're doing.
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This isn't a mainstream thought process of the right wing or the Republican party.
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Then we have Virginia governor Ralph Northam hopping into the fray.
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So this guy, Ralph Northam, he was sold to America and Virginians as a moderate.
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He was, he was supposed to be seen as a moderate candidate for that state.
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And here's the thing, he's in a couple of different controversies this week.
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You know, there's a lot of people calling for his head on the left and the right.
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And we're only going to talk about the first bit of controversy that got him into hot water.
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And it was this, he was on W T O P radio show, ask the governor.
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This is apparently a radio show in the state of Virginia.
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And he was asked whether or not he supported the proposed legislation that was brought forth
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by Kathy Tran.
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And here is his response in its entirety.
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There was a very contentious committee hearing yesterday when Fairfax County
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delegate Kathy Tran made her case for lifting restrictions on third trimester abortions,
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as well as other restrictions now in place.
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And she was pressed by a Republican delegate about whether her bill would permit an abortion,
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even as a woman is essentially dilating, ready to give birth.
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And she answered that it would permit an abortion at that stage of labor.
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Do you support her measure and explain her answer?
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Yeah, you know, I wasn't there, Julie, and I certainly can't speak for delegate Tran.
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But I would tell you one, first thing I would say, this is why decisions such as this should
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be made by providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved.
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There are, you know, when we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent
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of obviously the mother with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way.
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And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that's non-biable.
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So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen.
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The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated,
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if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the
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physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion. But again, we want
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the government not to be involved in these types of decisions. We want the decision to be made by
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the mothers and their providers. And this is why, Julie, the legislators, most of whom are men,
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by the way, shouldn't be telling a woman what she should and shouldn't be doing with her body.
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And do you think multiple physicians should have to weigh in as is currently required?
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She's trying to lift that requirement. Well, I think it's always good to get a second opinion
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and for at least two providers to be involved in that decision, because these decisions shouldn't
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be taken lightly. And so, you know, I would certainly support more than one provider.
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So if you're wondering what exactly he said there, we have a word for that in the English
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language for what he was proposing here and defending here. And that's infanticide.
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What the governor of one of our 50 states just said is that this baby can be delivered
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place to the side. And then the mother along with her physicians who maybe have no mental health
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training as we heard in the last clip can help decide whether or not at that moment
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that this baby is allowed to live. Think about that. And when you're thinking about it,
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think about it some more. This is a mainstream thought process right now within the democratic
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party. I mean, just just think about what some of the things that he said. And again,
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he made these stupid comments about, Oh, well, most of these legislators that are men telling
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women what to do with their body. How many times does it have to be proven to you that it's not
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the woman's body? If I shove my finger up the governor's nose, he doesn't all of a sudden get to
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decide what to do with me. I'm inside his body. My finger is up his nasal cavity, right? I'm inside
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his body. I am not his body. I'm not an extension of his body, right? But you know, he's not really
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interested in that. Luckily, the proposed bill was struck down for now. Because the thing is,
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is we've got to be really, really, really, really realistic here that this is going to come up again.
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And in 2020, if there is a Democrat in the White House, which is somewhat likely,
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if the Democrats take over the Senate, which is somewhat likely, and they will keep the house,
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no matter what, I mean, it's this is going to happen. This is going to keep happening.
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We're going to constantly see this. And it's going to be brought up. And if you're against it,
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you hate women, right? So Democrats used to try to sell this line to the American people of
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safe, legal and rare. That was the big thing. I think it was the Clintons. I think maybe it was
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Bill Clinton. If if I'm wrong, please correct me, where it was safe, legal and rare. That was the
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official stance of the Democratic Party. Now it's full and fantasized, full on and fantasized. And
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let's be real about this guys. This is the new mainstream platform in position for the Democratic
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Party. No longer do we live in the days of safe, legal and rare. And if you say you're
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pro choice, that I mean, that's what you're saying. If you say you're pro choice now in 2019,
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you have to own and fantasize too. You don't get to do this whole nebulous. Well, you know,
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before 20 weeks, we don't really know if it's viable. We don't really know if it feels pain.
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And like, what if the mother like is like under some stress and like, doesn't have any money?
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Like, no, you have to own and fantasize. You have to own delivering the baby.
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Seeing it there, watching it cry, and then making a decision as to whether or not that
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thing is allowed to live. And guys, it only gets worse. I mean, just last week, I was, and I'll
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include the link to the video here. I was watching Tucker Carlson have an interview with this pro
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choice advocate. And the entire interview was just talking points on her side. Like Tucker Carlson
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was basically asking her over and over and over. Do you agree with the proposed bill in Virginia?
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And it was just talking points, basically saying Tucker Carlson hated women if he wanted to decide
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anything. And you know, how can you even say anything? You're on the side of the party that likes to rip
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mothers and children apart from one another at the border and let people die and custody at the
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border. It was all talking points. It was rude. It was evil. It was demonic. It was ridiculous.
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And that's where this thing is going. And guys, I know I'm going into a long diatribe here right
18:17
at the beginning. But this is something you're going to have to get used to as things come up
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about abortion and things like this, things that are this extreme and this satanic. We will talk
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about it. And it will be the very, very first thing we talk about on this podcast. And I don't
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care what you guys say. This is what we're going to do. So I'm going to keep bringing it to you. And
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when you know it probably within 24 to 48 hours of me saying this, there's probably going to be
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something else that comes up. So maybe next week with the next week's episode, we can take a break.
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But I don't really think about it in those terms because of all the things that have been coming up.
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But guys, let's go ahead and launch in to this week's episode, episode 61, we're going to be looking
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at toxic masculinity and we're going to be doing part two of future. Just to recap a little bit,
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last week, we did toxic masculinity part one, a past or a history, sorry, I don't even know the
19:03
name of my own stuff, a history. And so in that episode, we talked about the Gillette commercial
19:07
and how that really launched all of these different discussions about toxic masculinity that we're
19:12
in right now. But also, I looked at the history of toxic masculinity and how that relates to
19:17
hegemonic masculinity, how it really started with gender studies in like the 80s. And we started to
19:22
kind of see this movement in this trend. We talked about toxic masculinity and how it related to
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sheepdogs. You know, I made the contention and I haven't seen anybody disagree with it yet that
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the reason why we even have things like gender studies and these thought processes that are
19:36
this ridiculous is because of all the sheepdogs that have given us all this latitude and all this
19:41
protection to be able to think about just anything and everything, just wherever our minds wander.
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And we talked a little bit about how beta males have the loudest voice right now. And as they
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get louder, this is going to continue to be an exacerbated issue and how this is really attached
19:56
to the left and to the right. And and I know for some of you guys, it was a lot of historical
20:00
context and a lot of detail. But we had to give you all of that as a foundation to build off of
20:06
because that gets us up to today. It gets us up to this point right now. And it gives us an idea
20:11
of okay, how did we get here? Because we can't understand really how to traverse the environment
20:16
that we're going to have to traverse as we get into the future if we don't understand what's
20:20
happened on the front end. So now guys, let's get into the future of toxic masculinity. And the
20:27
first part here that we really have to look at is masculinity in all of its forms, not just the
20:32
toxic ones will continue to be attacked. That is the first element that we're looking at as we're
20:37
marching towards the future is masculinity for the foreseeable future. I really don't see an end
20:42
in sight is going to be attacked. Because modern leftists and secularists, they want to do away
20:48
with not just gender roles and norms, right, which you can argue the positives and negatives of that.
20:54
They want to get rid of gender in general, right? I mean, we've seen this in a lot of different
20:58
areas where people talk about gender being a spectrum and you can within the same minute be
21:03
one gender and then flip over to be a different gender, it has a lot to do with your feelings and
21:07
a lot to do with basically what your college professor told you was an acceptable way to act.
21:12
Mind you, these are not biologists that are telling you anything that is going to be helping you in
21:18
any way. But these individuals that typically are on the left and secularist guys, I'm not just
21:22
picking on this is these are these people, they're trying to use science, but it's really pseudoscience
21:28
and they're trying to use this to try to convince us that they're right. And we're going to have
21:31
more on that here in just a minute. But if just basic gender is under attack, isn't it much, much
21:38
easier to attack masculinity as a whole? But here's the thing guys that we have to do. And this is
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what it's going to look like for us. And this is going to be very, very prescriptive. There are
21:48
four ways to respond to people arguing for the existence of toxic masculinity, because if it's
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going to continue to be on the attack, we as men of God are going to continue to be on the defensive,
22:00
right? And we've got to be able to fight on our heels and be able to take the fight to these
22:05
individuals. So there are four things here that I think will be very easy for you guys to remember
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and easy for you guys to actually go through and do if you dedicate yourself to doing so.
22:12
The first is make them define it. So when you're talking to somebody and they bring up toxic
22:18
masculinity, the very first thing is make them define it. You got to know what you're arguing
22:23
or debating about, because you might think you're arguing and debating about the same thing, but
22:28
they may have a different mindset. It's not that they're purposely being deceptive. They might be,
22:32
but for the most part, I would probably say that they're not. But at the end of the day,
22:36
we have to know exactly what we're talking about. So let's define it so that we know our terms moving
22:40
forward. The second thing is make them defend it. Make them defend it. Here's the thing, guys,
22:48
in most of these arguments, you've heard maybe some different apologists talk about this that,
22:52
you know, it's always the theists, it's always the people that believe in God that are having to
22:57
defend themselves against atheists. And almost never do you see someone turn the tables on the
23:01
atheists and say, well, how about you defend your position? You can't, you know, but can't prove a
23:05
negative. How about you defend your position? And people think that that's all that's untenable.
23:09
No, it's just as untenable is what they're arguing. The burden of proof is on them. And the argument
23:15
is on them. They've if they're going to bring up toxic masculinity, and you've defined it and you
23:19
agree on your terms, they need to defend why they're saying that masculinity is toxic. Because by then
23:25
you've gotten a definition of what they mean by masculinity, you have an understanding of what
23:29
they mean by masculinity. Now they need to defend it. Make them do that. The third thing is wreck
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their logic. Because again, most of these people are not operating using a whole lot of that.
23:39
This is all ideological philosophical stuff. It's not logical. Certainly not based in science.
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Just wreck their logic. And that's exactly what you have to do. And the last thing again, first,
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make them define it second, make them defend it third, wreck their logic and fourth, drop truth
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bombs, drop a mad amount of truth bombs. But here's the thing about the fourth and final step is you
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can't do that without prior knowledge. You have to cultivate mental resilience. You have to know
24:09
what you're talking about. You can't just be one of those guys like, man, I don't really
24:12
understand what you're saying, but I know I don't like it. How about you stop doing that to me,
24:17
getting me all confused. That's a problem. That's when those other people win, because they've got
24:21
you on your heels intellectually. In a debate of words, it doesn't matter how many pull ups you can
24:27
do. It doesn't matter how many times that you could, you know, smoke that person in a wrestling
24:31
match. It really is just your intellect on their intellect. So one great example of this that came
24:38
up recently, and I had so many people share this article with me. And I'm glad that they did.
24:42
Because it basically pitted the American Psychological Association, the APA, which is like the top
24:49
pinnacle for the psychological community. That's what this organization is. And it was them versus
24:55
Jocko Willink. So let's just talk a little bit about how that went. Basically, the APA declared
25:02
in an article, they had some stuff on it last year, but they really declared it here in January.
25:06
They declared that masculinity in essentially all of its forms were harmful. Masculinity
25:13
was harmful, specifically the traits of stoicism, competitiveness, dominance, and aggression,
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all harmful, no matter what, all of them are harmful, right? So we know where this is going.
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The translation is that stoicism, competitiveness, dominance, and aggression, aka natural masculine
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qualities are harmful. All these qualities are harmful to have, right? And people would argue,
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like, Oh, are these natural and all men? I would argue that those things are natural. And almost
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every man is to what degree they are natural. And someone else said that. So I'm taking someone's
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idea there. And I would give them credit if I knew, but if I could remember rather, but they're
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basically taking all those things and saying, Oh, well, that's not really that's not really good
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in any type of form in any type of amount. But even worse guys, what they're claiming is that
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traditional masculine qualities are a disorder. Like think about it that way, because these are
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people that claim to be, you know, some of them can prescribe things to you and they can assist
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you medically with certain issues that you might be having. They're trying to make the argument
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that masculinity is not only a problem. It's not only harmful, but that it's a disorder. And if
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it's a disorder, can't we assume that it's something that needs to be treated? And how would we go
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about treating that? But unfortunately, for the APA, they're not citing any new scientific or
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medical breakthroughs in this area. They're just not. It's simply an opinion of theirs,
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which is based on philosophy and ideology. It's nothing more than that. And to be honest with you,
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they've been eviscerated for this by anyone in the psychological community. That isn't just
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our ideologue. So I mean, you should hear Jordan Peterson talk about what these standards that
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came out. He had such a short response to it, but it was so scathing because it's absurd. Like,
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you can't claim that something has changed that that we need to release all these new guidelines
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about masculinity and about all these things and not have anything to back it up. I mean,
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these communities have been built on evidence on studies. And they are okay with going back
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in time and saying, you know what, this is what we used to believe, but in light of the new things
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that we've been able to see, we don't believe that anymore. And us in the general community,
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the non medical, non psychological community, we love that. It's like we like when you acknowledge,
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Oh, you used to think this way, but now in light of new evidence, you don't think that way anymore.
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That's a positive, as opposed to, well, we used to think the wrong way. And now instead of correcting
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it, we're just going to stick our heads up our butts and not do anything from there. But the great
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thing about it is one of our heroes, Jocko Willink actually responded directly to this article. Now,
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he didn't eviscerate them as directly as Jordan Peterson did. But I wanted to read his entire
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response to you guys because you know, Jocko, he doesn't really mince words. He's not somebody
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that's just overly long winded without any purpose. This is a guy that is really choosy with his words.
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He is very precise in his speech. And I want to go ahead and read to you his entire response here.
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So here we go. Boys and men shouldn't follow the advice of a recent report by the American
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Psychological Association called guidelines for the cycle psychological practice with men and boys.
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These guidelines imply that traditional masculinity, such as stoicism, competitiveness,
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dominance, and aggression are harmful. These guidelines are wrong. Stowically, controlling
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your emotions is necessary. Competitive spirit drives success, dominance, and the mental and
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physical strength required to dominate is far superior to a lack of strength, which results in
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being dominated by someone else. And aggression is a means to an end. Without aggressive action,
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you will likely be on the receiving end, bowing to someone else's aggression. Of course, it would
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be nice to conjure up a world where those traditional masculine traits were outmoded and unnecessary.
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Perhaps in that fantasy world, everyone could just let their emotions spill out. Instead of
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competition in that imagined world, everyone would win. Rather than looking to dominate
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in this imaginary realm, everyone would collaborate and live as equals. And finally, in this fictional
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old domain, aggression would not stand and people would simply hug each other and get along. But that
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world doesn't exist. Would it be nice if it did? Sure. But it doesn't. The world is a hard place.
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Life is tough. Human beings are not always benevolent in kind. You cannot count on charity,
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tolerance, and compassion. If you show your emotions, you might get taken advantage of.
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If you make emotional decisions, they will likely lead you in the wrong direction.
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If you lack competitive spirit, you will probably lose on many fronts. In being hired, promoted,
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negotiating a salary, and even in finding a romantic companion for your life.
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Finally, if you are not aggressive, you will not be able to capitalize on opportunities.
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Good things in life don't just appear on your doorstep. You will have to be aggressive and make
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them happen. Failure to do so will result in missed opportunities. Instead of you being in
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control of your life, life will be in control of you. So be stoic, be competitive, be dominant,
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and be aggressive. But it isn't that simple. And this is where things become difficult.
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It's important to not go too far with any of those traits. Just as I wrote about in the recent book,
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The Dichotomy of Leadership, which I co-authored with my CL teammate, Life Babin,
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a leader must strive for balance and a man must do the same. If you turn your emotions off completely
30:36
and become overly stoic, you will not be able to connect with anyone. You will not be able to lead
30:42
because people don't follow leaders who show no emotion. Furthermore, if you shut off your emotions,
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you will not feel the joy and happiness that drive you toward success. You will lack the
30:51
positive emotions that make life worth living. If you are too competitive, you can be driven to
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the point where you cannot enjoy anything. You will obsess over winning and drive yourself crazy.
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A loss will crush you. You will be tempted to commit more immoral or illegal acts in order
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to win in the short term. Those infractions will come back to haunt you. In the long run,
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you will fall apart. The will to dominate must also be tempered. If you focus on dominating
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in all situations, it will not work out well for you. If your goal is to dominate, you won't listen
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to other people and will thereby miss out on other ideas and thoughts that might be superior to your
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own. Over time, you will wear out your welcome, damage relationships, and expend all your leadership
31:33
capital. No one likes to be around people who require everything to be done their way.
31:37
Lastly, if you are hyper aggressive, you will burn yourself out. You will take too many risks,
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burn too many bridges, and use up all your ammunition. As a leader and as a man,
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you have to be able to recognize it when it's time to back off, when it is time to retreat,
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reorganize, and reload so you can come back to fight another day. This list of dichotomies
31:57
continues on endlessly. As a leader and as a man, you have to have balance. You must be courageous,
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but not foolhardy, decisive, but not dictatorial, open minded, but principled, disciplined, but not
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rigid. So don't listen to the media telling you to suppress your masculine traits. Don't listen
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to commercials conveying that acting as a traditional man is bad. But at the same time,
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don't let those traits or any other drift to the extremes. You will fail as a leader,
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as a man, and as a person. Instead, balance the dichotomies that pull you towards one extreme
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or another, and pass that balance on to your sons and your daughters as well. These so-called
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masculine traits aren't just for men. Guys, I thought that was just absolutely fantastic,
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because the thing is, is he so directly destroyed the argumentation of the APA,
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but then he acknowledged that there are extremes and dichotomies to everything.
32:54
Because again, guys, if you watch the Gillette commercial, I know a couple of people, you know,
32:58
listen to the podcast, and I had one guy specifically reach out that didn't really
33:01
understand the my problem that I had with the Gillette commercial or the millions of other
33:04
people that have a problem with the Gillette commercial, because they're like, well, aren't
33:07
all these things good? Well, if you have this idea in your head that all the things that
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we're being shown in that commercial is stuff that we all accept from the beginning,
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you're already on the losing end of the argument. Because again, as I mentioned in the last episode,
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we don't just assume those things are good. Like, we're not fans of bullying. We're not fans of
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mansplaining. We're not fans of guys objectifying women and grabbing them without their consent,
33:28
all those different things. We're not fans of those things, which leads us into this next
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section here. We got a few more sections here, those podcasts for you guys. And this is caricature
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masculinity versus biblical masculinity, because as we're moving on towards the future,
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we have to have something that we're striving for and moving towards. And the thing about it is,
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is for you as an individual, it's either going to be towards the caricature, sorry, the caricature
33:52
of masculinity, or the biblical side of masculinity, masculinity as described by and revealed inside
33:59
of the Bible. And the thing about caricature masculinity, is that something that we can describe
34:04
pretty easily doesn't take a whole lot of nuance to describe that. I mean, just think about it,
34:07
and you can look at the media, you can look at just people's general knowledge. You think,
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you know, bodybuilder, womanizer, hunter, cheap beer drinker, four-wheel truck driver,
34:17
family tyrant, or maybe even like the other side, you know, the clueless, useless dope,
34:23
the guy that basically, again, I bring this up all the time, think about how men, how dads are
34:27
portrayed on most shows, look at Phil and modern family. That's kind of the typical guy, just
34:32
clueless, kind of a dope, but everyone just kind of loves him. They like to have him around because
34:36
he's, he's, you know, just pleasurable enough to keep around, but not quite as annoying that you
34:43
would want to get rid of him. But here's the skinny guys, the definition of the caricature of manhood
34:48
will always change based on what people want manhood or masculinity to be. It will forever be a moving
34:57
target. Because again, there are things today that people didn't think were harmful five years
35:02
ago. I don't remember seeing the American Psychological Association come out and talk about
35:07
competitiveness and how just competitiveness in its entirety is dangerous, especially within a
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masculine context. Like that's incredibly, incredibly ridiculous and almost insulting to think about
35:20
things in that way. But again, as we go back to that quote from Jordan Peterson, there are people
35:24
that like hierarchies and typically the people that do well in the hierarchies. It's the people
35:28
that don't do well in hierarchies, where there is a winner and a loser. Those are the people that
35:32
try to tear the hierarchies down. But now let's talk about biblical masculinity. And I want to talk
35:38
about biblical masculinity in three different ways. And then after that, I want to talk about
35:42
the different ways that we can look at in terms of the future of masculinity, because in our
35:47
opinion, there are four key issues that the future of masculinity hinges on. And we'll get to those
35:52
here in a little bit. So you're gonna have to stick with us to get to that. But again,
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I want to talk about biblical masculinity and break it down into three ways. Okay. The first,
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I want to talk about a man's devotional. Okay. So for those of you that are familiar with
36:03
undaunted, a lot of you found undaunted life by finding undaunted life a man's devotional on the
36:08
U version Bible app. Okay. And that has been completed almost 50,000 times. It's done really,
36:14
really well. A lot of people are waiting for the next one. I had people try to buy the rights to
36:18
it. Like it's just, it's just one of those things that it's a really struck a chord with a lot of
36:22
people. But we got to go back even one more step to according to undaunted life, what is the
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definition of a man or manhood or masculinity or any of those things? However, you decide to say
36:31
it. And what we say is that it's a male that cultivates spiritual, mental and physical resilience
36:37
daily. Guys, this is why we talk about spiritual, mental and physical resilience all the time.
36:43
Because most guys are not crushing it in all three areas. And you look at your life,
36:49
every bit of your life is a snapshot in time. There are times when you're in really good shape,
36:53
and now you've taken some time off. There are times that you had an incredibly deep,
36:56
you know, connection with Jesus. And then there are times where you just kind of go through these
37:01
dry spells. I've talked to some guys recently about some dry spells that they're in that have
37:04
been fairly substantial and long lasting. But within this devotional, we spend a week,
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it's a 21 day devotional, there is a week, seven days spent on each of those areas of resilience,
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spiritual, mental and physical. But the devotional, it answers these four huge questions. And they are,
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one, can I be manly and spiritual? Two, how can I serve God with my mind? Three is my physicality
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and act of worship. And four, how can Jesus be the lion and the lamb? Those are the four
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big questions that the guys that have finished the devotional that they feel like they've got a
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very good idea of where this goes. And so for us, the very first thing that we would suggest that
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you do, because it really doesn't take a whole lot of dedication on your part, you know, maybe 10,
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10 to 15 minutes for 21 days in a row to really get a good primer for what masculine
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biblical masculinity is what biblical masculinity is. So that's the first thing is go through there
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because I don't want to just go on this diatribe about what what's inside the devotional, especially
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since a lot of you have already read it. But for the rest of these, I want to make sure that it adds
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to what we're saying in what we've done already with the man's devotional. So the second thing
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under biblical masculinity, is there are other examples from scripture that we can take and be
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like, okay, this is what a man is supposed to be. And so thanks to Jenna Ellis over at The Daily Wire,
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she made a very short list of some different things. This is this is an individual who has
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came out multiple times and talked about how we have a desperate need for biblical masculinity.
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And she's coming at it from the perspective of a woman. So it's absolutely refreshing for her to
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have that. And so I'm going to go through a few of the things that she talked about because she
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she gave some scriptural references here. But the first thing is protectiveness. And we see that
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in 1 Peter 3 7, I'll read that here. Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding
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way showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of
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life so that your prayers may not be hindered. Also, we look at the scriptures and we get some hints
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about servant leadership. And so the first thing we see is in Matthew 23 11, this is Jesus talking,
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the greatest among you shall be your servant. And then we go to Ephesians 5 versus 25 through 29,
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there's going to be a lot of Ephesians 5 in here. But it's this, husbands love your wives as Christ
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love the church and gave himself up for her that he might sanctify her having cleansed her by the
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washing of the water with the word so that he might present the church to himself in splendor
39:29
without spot or wrinkle or any such thing that she might be holy and without blemish.
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And in the same way, husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife
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loves himself for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it just as Christ
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does the church. So then there's other examples in the Bible as well. One is another thing is
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sacrificial love. We get that from the Bible and we get that again from Ephesians 5 versus 25,
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which we've already read. But it's again, husbands love your wives as Christ love the church and gave
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himself up for her again, sacrificial love. How about fatherhood? We see this in the next chapter of
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Ephesians, Ephesians 6 verse 4. Fathers do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up
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in the discipline and instruction of the Lord. So again, more hints about us how we should act
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as men. Let's keep going strength and headship. We see that again in Ephesians 5, 22 verses,
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well, verses 22 and 23. And also we see that in first Peter, but we'll go ahead and go into
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Ephesians 5, 22 and 23 here. Wives submit to your own husbands as to the Lord for the husband is the
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head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church, his body and is himself its savior.
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And then we go into first Peter, five and verse three, we see them talking about basically dominance,
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how to use your strength and headship. And it was this, not domineering over those in your charge,
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but being examples to the flock. This was looking at people that were elders and kind of looking
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at some of the things again, if the elders are called to be exclusively men, we can get some
40:52
more hints about manhood there. And then we see kindness, compassion, humility, gentleness and
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patience. And we can get all that from what we see in Colossians three versus 12. Put on then,
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as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility,
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meekness and patience. And so that's the second part there because throughout your Bible reading,
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you're going to get hints about what good manhood looks like, right? And as a lot of you would point
41:18
out, there's not really that one example from someone in the Bible that's like, okay, I want
41:23
to model after everything. Because there's a lot of things to like about David. And there's a lot
41:28
of wretched inside the heart of that man, right? There's a lot of things to like about Samson. But
41:32
then gosh, what a foolish guy that guy was. But I want to get into the third part here when we're
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talking about biblical masculinity. And this is going to require for a lot of you guys to do a deep
41:43
dive into the gospel of Luke. And I got to give a big shout out to Matt Hayes out of Tulsa, Oklahoma.
41:49
So this is a guy that's been an early follower of all of our ministry stuff. And he's constantly
41:54
sending me things that that that we can use and kind of incorporate in some of the things that we're
41:58
doing. And so this section is a lot in large part to what he basically pointed out. But he sent me
42:03
an email and I have his permission to read a huge section of this email here, basically talking
42:07
about the gospel of Luke. And the reason that I want to share it and the way that I'm going to
42:10
share it is because I never really thought about the gospel of Luke in this way. And so I think
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this is going to be very, very important for us moving forward to look at this. So let me just go
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and read from his email here and then we'll get more into the different definitions that he went
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into below. I believe that the Bible should be our source for correct manhood and no Bible
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character will fit that mold as perfectly as Jesus. And has been presented to me that each gospel
42:31
has a focus and Luke's was Christ's humanity. If so, the biblical manhood of Jesus should be
42:37
emphasized in Luke's gospel. Biblical scholars present the idea that each of the four gospels
42:42
has a theme. Matthew is written for Jewish people and focus on Jesus's kingship, the Messiah,
42:47
the fulfillment of God's promises. He traced the royal line from David to Joseph, even though Joseph
42:52
was not Jesus's father. Jesus teaches on the kingdom of heaven 40 times in Matthew's gospel.
42:58
Mark wrote to the Gentiles and showed Jesus as the active intentional servant. Isaiah's suffering
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servant. Mark is the immediate action gospel. Mark portrays Jesus as a man of action and all those
43:09
actions are seen through the lens of a servant. If you like action movies, you will like Mark.
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John wrote to show Jesus as eternal God. John's gospel traces Jesus all the way back to the
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beginning of creation. John uses seven signs to show to show that Jesus is God. Luke is the focus
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of the following paragraphs. His gospel focuses on Jesus's humanity. Thus, we should find the manhood
43:34
of Jesus highlighted there. So Luke was a doctor writing to an intellectual Greek. Unlike Matthew's
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gospel, scholars believe Luke gives us Jesus's true human lineage, tracing it from God to Adam
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to David to Mary. While Matthew mentions it in passing, only Luke gives us the actual events
43:51
that took place before, during and after the conception of Jesus. Essentially, Dr. Luke signed
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Jesus's birth certificate certifying his humanity and his manhood. Luke's gospel is unique in that
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it's an account in that its account is well studied and given in chronological order. It is its first
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few chapters give a unique insight into the development of Jesus from childhood to manhood.
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Specifically, he continued to grow and strengthen wisdom and grace. We see that in Luke 2 40.
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Others smarter than me will tell you how Luke focused on the humanity of Jesus and his interactions
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with humanity more than any other gospel. If it is true that Luke's gospel focused on Jesus's
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humanity. And if we want to study the biblical manhood of Jesus, then we should get the most
44:33
accurate view from Luke's gospel. So I thought that Matt did a very, very good job of summarizing
44:38
that. But then even beyond that, and I'm going to give you guys a lot of resources kind of back
44:42
a lot of these things up. So don't worry. But there were kind of two different sections that
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he broke Luke down into. And the first one is there's no short, no shortcuts to manhood.
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And the second work hard be honest and be content. And so under the no shortcuts to manhood,
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we see that Jesus was conceived and born. We see that in Luke 1 30 through 35.
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Jesus, the child was brought up in a godly family. We see that in Luke chapter two.
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Jesus, the child grew in strength, wisdom and grace into Jesus, the man. We see that in Luke
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two 40. Jesus was baptized. We see that in Luke three 21 and 22. Jesus's genealogy went from God
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to the first man Adam through King David and to Mary. We see that in Luke three 23 through 28.
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And now the next section work hard, be honest, be content. We start getting a little bit more into
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the other elements that would constitute manhood to us. And the first is Jesus faces enemies,
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flesh and spiritual. We see that in Luke chapter four. Jesus taught red scripture and prayed in
45:40
public with authority. We see that also in Luke chapter four. Jesus was mission focused, not fame
45:46
focused. We see that in Luke four 42 through 44. Jesus did not shy away from telling men how to
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do their job. That's Luke five, four through seven. Jesus inspired men to become disciple makers.
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We see that in Luke eight 38 through 39. And Jesus did not shy away from face to face religious or
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political debate. Very, very important. And we see that in Luke 20. And guys, there's a whole
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lot more to that there. And at the end of this episode, when we do the quick resilience boost,
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I'm going to run down more specifically some of the resources that Matt found that kind of made
46:17
this argument. But guys, this, this got me like excited got me like jacked up because I know a lot
46:21
of times when it comes to scripture reading and Bible reading, even if you're reading through
46:24
devotional, it can kind of be a slog. You're just like, okay, I'll read it again today because I get
46:29
points for it. And I want extra gold bars, you know, on my sidewalk leading up to my house in heaven,
46:34
or whatever the thing might be. This got me excited. Because I love looking for examples of manhood
46:39
and masculinity in scripture, good and bad. And you feel like you get it a lot. And I think
46:44
intellectually, we know that the perfect example of manhood should come from Jesus. But then again,
46:49
we're always in churches and only talk about the Lamb of God. And then we're missing out
46:53
on that other part, the other part of Jesus that we might consider to be a little bit more
46:57
traditionally masculine. But again, just shout out to Matt has Matt Hayes. Thank you so much for
47:02
putting this together and for shooting me that information. Because I think it's going to be
47:06
helpful to all the listeners here. But guys, basically, all of last episode and all of this
47:11
episode is leading to this moment where we're going to talk about what the future of masculinity
47:15
hinges on. And these are going to be things that you guys have to take seriously. Or you basically
47:21
wasted your time, you wasted an hour and a half couple hours of your life getting to this point.
47:24
And you're just going to let it go in and air and in one ear and out the other. But the future
47:28
masculinity hinges on four key issues. And how we as men have to respond to them. Okay. So follow
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me through these four. The first thing is the presence versus absence of men. The presence versus
47:43
absence of men. Because here's the reality guys, we don't have a presence of masculinity problem.
47:49
We have an absence of masculinity problem. And guys, I'm about to just go through a bunch of
47:56
stats here. And I'm gonna go through these rapid fire and a lot some of these stats are a little
48:00
bit old. But it's the last time either these stats were gathered. And you can pretty much
48:03
assume that all of these stats if they sound bad, they're worse now in 2019. So buckle up.
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24.7 million children, which is 33% of children in the United States live absent their biological
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father. The percentage of children living with mother only living with their mother only has
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tripled since the 1960s tripled. Now let's talk about babies born out of wedlock. In Asian communities,
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it's 17% of babies, white communities, 29% of babies, which has gone up by 10 fold since the 1960s and
48:34
70s, Hispanics have a 53%, 53% of babies are born out of wedlock, American Indian 66% and black
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Americans 73%. And all of those numbers have gone up. None of the numbers in any of those
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communities has gone down over the last several decades. But just think about that. About a half,
48:54
a third of all white babies, half of Hispanic babies, three quarters of black babies, they're
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all born out of wedlock. And a lot of those things end up working out where the dad's just not there.
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It's not the just that they're not married. They're just not there. Let's keep going. 63% of
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you suicides are from fatherless homes, which is five times the national average. 90% of all
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homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes, which is 32 times the national average.
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85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes. 20 times the national
49:25
average. 80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes, which is 14 times the
49:31
national average. And 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes nine times the national
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average. Let's talk a little bit more about education. Children with fathers who are involved
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are 40% less likely to repeat a grade in school. Children with fathers who are involved are 70%
49:46
less likely to drop out of school. Children with fathers who are involved are more likely to get
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A's in school. Children with fathers who are involved are more likely to enjoy school and
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engage in extracurricular activities. Now let's talk about substance abuse. 75% of all adolescent
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patients and chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes 10 times the national average.
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Researchers at Columbia University found that children living in two parent households with
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a poor relationship with their father are 68% more likely to smoke drink or use drugs compared to
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all teens in two parent households. Teens and single mother households are at a 30% higher risk
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than those in two parent households. 70% of use in state operated institutions come from fatherless
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homes, which is nine times the national average. And 85% of all use in prison come from fatherless
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homes 20 times the national average. So a couple of just a rapid fire things here that don't have
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stats attached to them. Children from fatherless homes are much more likely to end up incarcerated,
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be involved in criminal activity and to become child abusers themselves. And guys,
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I could have put several hundred more statistics in here, but I think he got the point. But here's
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the big point that I don't want you to miss. Even if you just kind of zoned out as I was given all
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these numbers, or maybe you're more visual, you need to see it in an infographic or something like
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that. This is the big point. Notice that none of these stats cited the presence of a good father.
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Some of you didn't get how big of that deal that was. Notice none of these stats cite the
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presence of a good father, just a present one, just a father that was there. I mean, think about that.
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Just having a dad that's there that's imperfect, maybe even crappy, is still better than when
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they're just living with mom, when there's no male role model, when there's no masculinity around.
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So this is why we're saying that there's a huge issue with the presence versus the absence of men.
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And here's the thing. You already got the big point, but here's our role as men of God.
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We have to hold a father's feet to the fire. So I've got a story of a guy here that let's just
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say I don't really like this guy. He's one of my least favorite guys on planet Earth,
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and it has a lot to do with this story because it's a story of extreme cowardice, and I'm obviously
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not going to use the guy's name. But I know this guy intimately. This is a guy who had three sons,
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has three sons, and a wife. Everything seemed to be going well. And then all of a sudden,
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this guy decided that he was going to bounce with the secretary. So he ran off with the secretary,
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leaving his three sons and his wife behind. And you know, basically was having this fling,
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having this affair. He gave up his entire life to go and have some probably good wild sex with
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some secretary, right? And it got so bad. And he uses this as an example almost to make you feel
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bad for him whenever he tells a story. He got so bad. And he got so twisted in his mind that
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before having sex with his whore of a secretary, he would pray with her. They would hold hands and
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pray for his wife and his sons. Think about that. Now, there are guys that have a lot of
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depravity in their lives that have a lot of issues inside of them internally. But here's the thing
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that I want to pull out of that story is not where he's at now. It's not whether what happened
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with his marriage or what happened with his sons. That's not the point. The point is,
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is that it is abundantly clear that the men in this dude's life did nothing to hold his feet to the
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fire. Nothing. They saw this happening. They knew this was going down. His co-worker certainly did.
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The guys in his church, right? All his foxhole guys, right? Like those guys knew. What were they
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saying? Did any of them snatch this dude up by his shirt and say you're not going to do that? Did
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any of them drag him out of that roach motel that he was banging his secretary and drag him back to
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his family and make him stay there? We have to hold their feet to the fire because if they are
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getting twisted and this happens to a lot of guys, if they get twisted in their brain as to what
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they're supposed to be doing and whom they're supposed to be doing it for, that is our role
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to step in and help them out. And it might get physical guys. Embrace it if it does. So that's
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number one. The second thing that we need to talk about is the false dichotomy when elevating
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women, the false dichotomy when elevating women. Here's the big point. Putting down men doesn't
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elevate women. That's it. Putting down men doesn't elevate women. There are a lot of people out there
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that think, okay, if we suppress men, if we pretend like the patriarchy is this real thing that has
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led to all this negative in the world, that if we can suppress that, then somehow women will rise,
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which isn't true at all. Our role of men of God in this is pretty easy. Elevate men and elevate
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women. Not one or the other. We don't get to pick guys. Because guess what? We all have the
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Amago day. All of us need to be elevated. And in the role of headship as defined by Matt Chandler,
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which we've talked about and informed by the Bible, headship is the unique leadership of the man
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in the work of establishing order for human flourishing. So we can't have human flourishing
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if men and women both, yes, binary gender, if men and women both are not being elevated at the same
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time. So there is a false dichotomy when elevating women and we have a role in taking care of that.
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The third thing and a lot of you guys want to talk about this and I understand why it's rights
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of passage. I mean, guys, ask yourself, when did you know that you had become a man?
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When did you know it? When was the first time you knew it? Because for some of you is, you know,
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the first time you had sex, first time you had a beer or whiskey or whenever you moved to college
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or when you got your first big boy paycheck, whatever the thing was. But the thing about toxic
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masculinity, guys, is it's having the biggest impact on our boys. Not the men as much. It is
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certainly having an impact on them, but it's having a huge impact on our boys. Because toxic
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masculinity is telling boys and their stupid parents that they don't need to learn how to be a man.
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You know, the left is telling us that there's no biological differences between boys and girls
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that gender is a social construct, which is one of the dumbest things and one of the most
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antithetical anti science things you could possibly say. Here's another thing. We're
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drugging up our boys at an alarming rate, telling them that the basic elements of what makes them
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a boy are wrong or disordered. Matt Walsh over at the day, the wire pointed this out. There's an
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overwhelming number of kids on psychotropic drugs like Ritalin, but the overwhelming amount
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of those kids are boys, not girls. We're seriously drugging boys because we don't know how to handle
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them. But and we're telling them that their energy and their excitement and their way of
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learning is just wrong. It's just absolutely wrong. I mean, just think about that. So getting back to
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rights of passage, there are many organizations out there that are attempting to do define rights
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of passage for men and young boys. And there's one here locally called Sandestone. This guy is
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Eric Browning. He's in my Sunday school and he's doing a lot of that right now. He's kind of thinking
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through that and writing to where you can have these defined rights of passage all the way through
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your young, you know, your young adulthood. But many men are looking for an organization like that,
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which is a great one to do rights of passage for them. But what we say is, is if you can't do it
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yourself, there's nothing wrong with going through an organization that does those types of things.
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That's absolutely fantastic. But if you don't have the means to go through an organization like that,
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you certainly have the means to do this yourself. And here's the big point with this one, guys,
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cultures will definitively, like with definitively defined male rights of passage, don't have crises
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of manhood in their cultures. Basically, if you have no rights of passage, it leads to confusion
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on masculinity. And I know some of you guys are thinking of these examples that we talked of,
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you know, there's this tribal culture in Brazil that they stick the boy's hand in a glove filled
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with bullet ants and it literally feels like their hands being shot. And if they make any noises or
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grunt or in pain that they're not considered a man, you have African tribes that will send
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young boys out into the wild with a spear and they either don't come back, which means they
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suffered an honorable death while be trying to become a man. They come back with the head of a
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lion, which is put on their hut. The skull is put on their hut forever to know that a man lives here,
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or they come back alive. And they're basically branded a coward for the rest of their life.
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And there's example, after example, after example, and yes, a lot of these cultures are somewhat
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antiquated and not, you know, Western eyes or modernize or any of these things. But none of these
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cultures have a problem with understanding masculinity. But a culture like ours, where most of us
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don't live in, you know, a religious environment that is defining when we become men, that becomes
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a problem. So again, that's the big point. But what's our role as men of God? And that's to not
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take rights of passage for the void for the boys in our sphere lightly. Don't take it lightly.
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And that's why I put it the boys in your sphere. That's not just your sons guys. These are your
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nephews. These are the boys that are in the Sunday school that you teach the boys at the camp that
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you volunteer at the other boys on the team whose fathers aren't there. Don't take that lightly.
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They have to be taken through rights of passage, or they're going to risk running downstream of
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culture. We have to enter the fray. I mean, we have to motivate the right people and make it happen.
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So that's really, really important. And so again, to just kind of recap here,
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the first thing that we got to be concerned about in terms of a key issue and how we're
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supposed to respond is the presence versus the absence of men. That's the first one.
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The second one is the false dichotomy when elevating women. The third is the rights of passage that
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we need to take our boys through. And the final one is embracing biblical masculinity.
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And see the previous section. We went through three huge chunks to give you guys like, okay,
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if you just want to do a study through the study that we've written, go for it. If you want to study
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these, you know, basically handpicked scriptures from all over the New Testament, go through that.
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Or if you want to go into a deep dive of Luke, it's there for you. The big point here, guys,
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is if we don't filter our view of manhood through the scriptures, we just run the risk of adding
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contents that are downstream of culture. We're going to add the own our own elements in some
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of our personal proclivities into something that is extra biblical. It's outside of the Bible.
1:00:06
And our role as men of God is to study the scriptures ourselves, teach it to others,
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and live it out. And guys, you have no excuses. I mean, all of you listen to this probably have
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you version on your on your phone. You've probably got multiple Bibles sitting on your shelf that
1:00:25
you just need to blow the dust off and like start reading them, right? It's all right there for you.
1:00:30
And guys, I know this is a lot of content. And we did it this way on purpose. That's why we broke
1:00:35
it up into two separate episodes. But this is supposed to weave a narrative for you that is
1:00:40
helpful for you as you're moving forward. Because if you don't have a plan for these things,
1:00:45
then you can't imagine that there's going to be a plan for your sons either. And that's the thing
1:00:49
that I'm most worried about. Because, you know, for us as men, we're either going to do what we're
1:00:54
going to do or we're not going to do what we're going to do. We're kind of defined who we are
1:00:58
for a lot for a lot of us, right? At least we think that way. But not for our boys.
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Our boys still need us. And it's really, really important that we enter the fray.
1:01:06
Guys, this is only going to get worse. It's only going to get worse. I mean, toxic masculinity
1:01:11
has become common vernacular, right? And if we don't know how to fight back, it's going to overtake
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us. All right, guys, before we get out here, quick resilience boost, as you know, by now,
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we are immense ministry and our mission is to cultivate mainly resilience. And specifically,
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we do that by providing content that for just spiritual mental and physical toughness. So today,
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we're going to work on spiritual and mental toughness. And so I've got a lot of links for you. I'm going
1:01:32
to run through real quick. So I've got the YouTube link for Kathy Tran as she presented the third
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trimester abortion bill. We also have the YouTube length of the governor of Virginia responding
1:01:41
to that. And then I included that video of Tucker Carlson sparring with a pro choice advocate. It's
1:01:46
a very short video because it was absolutely useless. But I want you to see the interaction.
1:01:50
I gave you the link to the APA guidelines where they were talking about men and boys. So you can
1:01:55
read it for yourself. And I included Jocko Willing's direct response to that as well.
1:02:00
I included a link to the undaunted life of man's devotional for any of you guys wanting to head
1:02:04
into that. And then Ellis, which was from the daily wire when she Jenna Ellis, when she compiled
1:02:09
those different scriptures about biblical masculinity that articles here. And then all these next few
1:02:14
resources are basically just from the deep dive into the gospel of Luke. And so we have Don Stewart
1:02:19
talking about why there are four gospels. I have a link to Jesus's gene gene genealogy in Luke.
1:02:25
A link to why is the gospel of Luke unique? It's an article that speaks to that. Then there are
1:02:29
three different articles in a row that kind of go into men in Luke one through three men in Luke
1:02:34
four through eight. And then basically what does Jesus say about manhood three different links there.
1:02:39
And then also the next several links are from Dr. Jay Vernon McGee. He does a thing that some of
1:02:44
you guys have probably heard of called through the Bible. I think it takes you through the entire
1:02:47
Bible over like three years or five years or something like that. So there's some YouTube links,
1:02:50
there's some links of stuff of him describing Luke, and then just the regular old website where
1:02:55
you can do any part of the Bible. Then there's some statistics from the fatherless generation
1:03:00
and father.com. So a lot of the statistics I talked about back there. But then these last four things
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I think are very important to you because I know for a lot of you, your ears perked up when we heard
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when we were talking about rights of passage. And so art of manliness has done some of the best
1:03:13
writing on rights of passage that I've seen anywhere on the internet. And so there are four
1:03:16
articles from the art of manliness. And there are these how to create your own rights of passage,
1:03:20
coming of age, the importance of male rights of passage, eight interesting and insane male
1:03:27
rights of passage from around the world, and the rights of manhood man's need for ritual. So these
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are incredibly, incredibly important things for you guys to look at. And I'm glad we can provide
1:03:37
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