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This is Undaunted Life from Man's Podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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Hi guys.
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Today we're going to be talking about some blog posts by a pastor named Pastor Douglas
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James Wilson or Doug Wills as he's called by a lot of people.
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But this guy, he's a conservative, reformed evangelical pastor and theologian and he is
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the lead pastor at Christchurch in Moscow, Idaho.
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Yes, there is actually a place called Moscow, Idaho.
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But I was just kind of doing my normal thing, listening to podcasts and just doing whatever.
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And then this guy did an episode where he was the guest on the cross-politik show.
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So I think I've suggested the cross-politik people before.
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I think it was whenever we were talking about the Re voice conference, it's in different
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things like that.
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So this is a show that you guys should be watching.
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They kind of, in my opinion, kind of screwed up their channel on iTunes or whatever they
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have.
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So they're trying to come off as a network.
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And so they've got like four or five or six different shows all on the same podcast feed
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and pretty much all of the other shows are not any good.
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And so, but their main show is the cross-politik show and there's three guys that are on the
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show normally and they all work at the same church, I believe.
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At least one of them, I'm pretty sure works at the same church.
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But this is the guy that's kind of the head pastor and then he was there.
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He was a guest on the show and he was talking about this thing.
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He did called no quarter November, no quarter November.
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And so at the time that he appeared on the show, he was right in the middle of it.
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But this is something that he apparently does.
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I don't know if he does this every year.
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This is something that he just started doing this year.
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But he was basically doing more intense and more honest blog posts.
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I guess it's the easiest way to describe it.
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I guess I'll try to back my way into describing it.
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But for some of you, you don't really understand the term or the phrase no quarter.
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And so, or maybe you have, but you just forgot the context of where you know that from.
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But the term no quarter will go to the incredible bastion of intellectual thought.
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We'll go to Wikipedia.
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But it says this, that in war, a victor gives no quarter or takes no prisoners.
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When the victor shows no clemency or mercy and refuses to spare the life of a vanquished
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opponent in return for their surrender at discretion or unconditional surrender.
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So basically, this is kind of a no holds barred, no, you know, taking no prisoners type of
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blog posts.
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So, it's a series of blog posts that I guess are outside of his normal tone and tenor.
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This guy kind of has a reputation for being not politically correct and kind of saying
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what he, you know, wants to say.
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But this is even more so that it's way more forward, way less politically correct.
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And one thing that he said, because if you go to the website, there's a lot of different
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blog posts.
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And even in November, there's lots and lots of blog posts and not all of them are in
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this no quarter, November category, some of them are just his normal blog posts.
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But he's coming at it from a very different perspective.
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So when you first go to his website, it has a lot of kind of a description as to why he
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was doing no quarter November.
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So I want to read a little bit that to you here so you can kind of get an idea of where
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he's coming from.
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So it is apparent that I believe that there really is a time for rhetorical qualifications.
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That time is not this coming November.
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Allow me to explain during the course of this approaching month of November.
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My plan is to write a series of blog posts where I say what I think flat out and to do
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so without qualifying anything.
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The things I will write could be qualified and it would be no sin to do so.
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But my plan is to let you all know what is going on out there without any of that.
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But on the other hand stuff, there is another hand with five fingers on it and there are
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qualifications to be made, but you can rest assured that I know all about them, but I'm
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keeping them to myself.
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So this isn't exactly the tone that you would expect from an evangelical pastor, but I can
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just tell you, surprise, surprise, I like it.
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I think it's pretty dope kind of what he's going into, but you know, he did a lot of
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different blog posts.
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And so obviously I'm going to share these with you guys.
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I'm going to read one of them to you in long form, but I just want to kind of run down
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the list right now of some of the blog posts and kind of give you an idea of what he was
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talking about because this is something I think you guys should read.
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Now I'll just tell you right up front, I don't think all the blog posts were especially
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amazing.
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There were some that were just kind of like, man, whatever, or I didn't really get the
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point he was trying to make.
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Maybe it was just a little bit too stream of consciousness didn't really have a narrative
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flow to it.
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But I think they all had definite qualities and things that we could take away and learn
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from them.
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So I'll go ahead and go through the list in the order that they were presented in the
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month of November and then I'll go into the one that I want to read for you today.
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So the first one is called burn all the schools.
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So he's, okay, first of all, he's not asking for you guys to go out and actually burn buildings.
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So don't go and misunderstand them that way, but he's basically encouraging Christians
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to get their kids out of the public school system.
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So they've talked about on the cross politics show quite a bit about how different areas
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will, you know, basically would have to listen to funding mechanisms and to parents about
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what's going on in the public schools from a secular point of view.
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If a lot of people took their kids out of the public school system, it would really affect
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the budget.
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So that's what this blog post is about.
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The second one is smash the matriarchy.
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And so this is basically talking about fighting against the ideals of feminism, especially
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in the church.
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And so we hear a lot about the patriarchy now and, you know, how evil it is and how it
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should be crushed.
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And this is saying smash the matriarchy, which is really interesting.
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The next one is called horny press baterians and woke baptists.
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So again, he's, he's, he's giving it to you straight up.
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He's trying to get your attention.
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And this blog post is kind of issues within the PCA, which is the Presbyterian church
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in America and the Southern Baptist convention, the SBC.
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And just basically talking about how they in the in press baterians have had a big issues
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with people coming out that are very, very liberal in the sexual side, and a lot of LGBT
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issues.
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And then, you know, Baptists are kind of going into the, the woke side, the black lives matter
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side of the race debate in a lot of ways.
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And so he kind of talks about that.
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The next one is called evolution as an uncommonly silly idea.
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So it's pretty much as the title pretty much says it all.
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He's talking about evolution and how silly it is to believe in that.
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The next one is called PCA RIP, obviously again, talking about the Presbyterian church in America,
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but there's a lot of issues going on, which within the PCA right now.
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And so there's kind of a split happening, a schism happening.
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So he addresses that.
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The next one is those bio logos unbelievers.
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This was a really interesting one.
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So if you haven't heard the term bio logos before, which I hadn't before I read this
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blog, I know the concept, but I didn't know what's called this.
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This is basically bio logos is basically asking the church and everyone in it or even outside
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of it to see the harmony between science and biblical faith and an evolutionary understanding
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of God's creation.
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So you'll see a lot of people embracing this.
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And it's one of those things that I don't really have a fully formed opinion on yet because
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it's not something that I've really thought about that much for for that many years.
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It's just been maybe in the last year or two, this has kind of come to my attention.
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But he has a very, very negative opinion of the bio logos movement.
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So he goes into that.
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The next one is called against justice.
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And so this is really going into the dangers of social justice and how the left is using
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justice and the difference between, you know, what the left calls justice and the actual
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biblical godly justice.
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The next one is called immodest winches.
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So it's basically talking about the immodest or kind of horsesh dress of a lot of modern
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women, but also especially in the church, you know, it kind of takes a few shots at some
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mega churches that are just, you know, the come one come all come as you are type churches
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and they're not really giving any structure to the women in terms of how they dress and
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how that can help, you know, assist men in following.
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The next one was I almost wanted to read this one to you guys because I thought it was fantastic,
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but I only want to read one day all the day.
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It was called sexual imbecility for imbeciles.
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And so it was basically talking about sexuality in the church and LGBTQ ARP, TTYL plus issues,
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you know, just all the issues going on right now with sexuality in the church.
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There's a lot of people that are basically trying to soften what the Bible has to say
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on homosexuality or on gender or on any of those things just so they can see more woke
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or more relevant.
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And so he goes straight at those issues.
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The next one is modern art and the dearth of culture.
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So obviously it's about modern art and the subjectivity of what art is and all that kind
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of stuff.
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So, you know, that one is what it is.
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The next one was your suburban church needed a drum kit the way Johann Sebastian Bach needed
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a kazoo.
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And so this one's basically talking about worship is talking about these churches that have declining
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attendance and how they're trying to basically fix it by getting into the worship wars.
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So, you know, adding a band and a drummer to to all the things they're doing in worship
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and whether that's actually doing anything.
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So I thought that was pretty interesting.
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The next one is called in praise of America, which is about exactly how it sounds.
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Amen.
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He's basically praising America for the things that we're really, really, really awesome
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at.
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He has one called November 33rd, which is not an actual blog post, but apparently there
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were two blogs that he couldn't fit into November.
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And so he was going to post one on December 1st and one on December 3rd.
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But as of the recording of this podcast, those I had had a chance to go through those.
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So I posted that in there, kind of as like a reminder to you, if you want to go through
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and actually read all these to go into the first, second and third day of December to
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see where he's posted those last two.
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And the last one he talked about was really, really interesting and very, very abiding.
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It was called in hell where they already have it.
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And so this is about the evils of socialism.
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And so that quote, you know, in hell where they already have it, I think it was from
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Ronald Reagan.
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He talked about that at the very beginning talking about socialism.
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He said there are only two places where socialism will work.
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One is in heaven where they don't need it, or the second is in hell where they already
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have it.
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So great, Reagan quote, I mean, I don't give a crap if y'all don't like Reagan, Reagan
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is my dude, like I wish he was around the country right now.
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But it's just anyway, we'll leave it there, I was going to go somewhere else.
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But you know, this isn't about the state of the Republican Party right now.
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So these are really, really interesting articles.
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If nothing else, even if you disagree with this guy, which I can just about guarantee
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you, if you read through all of those in the list and the two additional ones that haven't
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been posted yet, it's probably going to make you mad, different points.
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There's probably going to be points where you're a little bit confused, where you don't
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understand his argumentation.
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You don't really understand the narrative that he's trying to spend.
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I'm sure all those things are going to happen for you.
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But we'll get into it a little bit more at the end after I read this next one.
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But I'm very, very excited that there's a pastor out there doing this.
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But the one that I wanted to read for you guys is one that's called Surpluses Are For Sissies.
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And so to be frank with you, I had never seen the word Surplus before.
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And so that's S-U-R-P-L-I-C-E Surplus.
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And so I had to Google what it was.
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And then obviously when I pulled it up on Google, I was like, oh, I know exactly what
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that is.
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But it's kind of like the really fancy frock that they give to clergymen and young boys
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in the Catholic Church and things like that.
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It's just, it's got the frilly edges on the, on the sleeves and all these different things.
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Like I guarantee you, if you Google Surplus, you will immediately go to the images and
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go, oh, yeah, I know exactly what they're talking about.
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But again, this one's called Surpluses Are For Sissies.
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And I just wanted to go ahead and read this in its entirety to you because, again, I'm
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going to encourage you to read through all of the ones that we talked about, all the ones
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that I basically ran you through.
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But this one will kind of give you a sense of the tone that he's taking.
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So he's going into all of these really, really controversial issues.
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He's not pulling punches.
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He's coming straight at you and he's giving you, you, his opinion on these things.
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And so I just want to kind of go through it with you.
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And so it's going to take me a little bit, but just follow along.
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I'm going to be reading the article again called Surpluses Are For Sissies.
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Here's the introduction.
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So imagine for yourself the sweetest little boy in the church, one whose mind turns naturally
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to edifying themes, the kind of meditative theme inspired by reflections on a porcelain
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figurine of the infant Samuel, that prayer, suppose further that this boy has plump cheeks
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with kind of a rosy tint or glow, and those cheeks have been routinely pinched by all
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the pious church ladies.
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And they have been telling him for ever so many years that a face so cherubic should really
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be blessing the professors at some select seminary.
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This boy is also most careful about his appearance.
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And in the summer time, he is not to be found with his cousins, gigging frogs in the swamp.
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He has a bookish turn and a gentle frame.
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His glances turn naturally upward to things above.
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I hope it is obvious by this point in my description that the canoe of this young gentleman's
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masculinity is kind of wobbly in the river rocking back and forth as it were.
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Now imagine that the climax of this small setup is that he is eventually ordained in
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a communion that fits him out first thing with a white surplus.
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Think of that white surplus as a couple of effeminate cinder blocks thrown into the already
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wobbly masculinity canoe.
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Such an event is gonna sink that boy right to the bottom of the great pond of gay.
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And please don't shave metaphors that don't kill us can only leave us stronger.
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For those new to this mincing little deal, a surplus is a fetching little ecclesiastical
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number with lacy like accents.
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For a number of centuries now, clergymen have been thought of as a third sex.
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There have been exceptions here and there, but the errors in which the most masculine,
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the most talented, the most aggressive men have been attracted to the ministry have been
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rare.
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It is far more common to have that happen with the most dutiful, the most fastidious,
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and most likely to have two halos in heaven.
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Here's the next section, getting some of the jokes out of the way.
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Jokes work for a reason, and one of those reasons is the collective wisdom of crowds.
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The people generally know what is going on, with the people defined as those who laugh.
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This is why jokes are often the object of various political correctness recriminations.
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They go right to the point and they don't mess around, and they are impossible to answer.
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So why can't Episcopalian play chess anymore?
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They can't tell the difference between a bishop and a queen.
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So how do you get a nun pregnant?
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Simple.
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Dress her up as an altar boy.
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So an archbishop was walking down the aisle of the cathedral swinging a smoking throwable.
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As he passes a homosexual parishioner, the comment was, "I love your outfit, darling,
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but your purse is on fire."
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All these jokes point to the plain and obvious connection between sexual deviance and a certain
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kind of signaling of that deviance.
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The problem of sexual signaling exists outside ecclesiastical circles, of course, and there
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are feminine things a guy can put on that have nothing whatever to do with an ostensible
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apostolic succession.
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But there has also been a long tradition of allowing effeminacy a place in the church,
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and not only a place in the church, but a place of honored leadership in the church.
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Love that line.
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So dress all the boys up in choir robes, with ruffs for collars, and teach them to sing beautifully,
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with sweet pure tones and surround them with a bunch of men who have no lawful sexual outlet.
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What could possibly go wrong?
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The next section is called "some deep structure" here.
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In the religion he was founding, Jesus taught no one should be called "Father," and we
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see this in Matthew 23 verses 9 and 10, I'll read them now, and call "No man, your father
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on earth, for you have one father who is in heaven."
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Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ.
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He prohibited disfiguring your face when you fast, and we see this in Matthew 6, 16, and
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I'll read it here.
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And when you fast, do not look gloomy, like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces
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as their fasting may be seen by others.
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Truly I say to you, they have received their reward.
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He warned against the characters who liked flamboyants, pointing to their nature of their
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bling.
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That's in Matthew 23.5, I'll read it here.
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They do all their deeds to be seen by others, for they make their phylacteries, sorry, their
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phylacter freeze broad, and their fringes long, and their flowing robes as we talk about in
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Luke 2046.
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Read it here.
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There are the scribes who like to walk around with long robes and love greetings in the
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marketplaces, and the best seats in the synagogues, and the places of honor at the feast.
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He mocked their lengthy prayers as we see in Matthew 6, 7, which I'll read here.
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And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they
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will be heard for their many words.
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So there is a particular kind of showboating and parading around that Jesus despised.
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We together so far?
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So, it is worth pointing out that we ought not to be attracted to worship, however, historic
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that embodies every last one of those things.
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Tall decorated hats, elegantly styled flowing robes, embroidered stoles, ash on your forehead
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to let everyone know you are fasting and lint, doing it all because the father said it was
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okay.
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This is actually the way these things have to go.
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Showing off is always a sin, but it is not always an effeminate sin, but very hard to
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prevent a pious show off from becoming effeminate.
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If there was some tough guy competition or a weightlifting competition, a guy could compete
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in it with all the wrong reasons and be up to his neck in sinful show off emotives,
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and yet the sin would still not be an effeminate sin.
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But when a man is showing off his devotion to God or his excellence of character or his
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gentleness to the poor, the mental dashboard inside someone's head ought to be blinking
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danger, danger, danger.
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Showing off is always diabolical, but showing off your piety is diabolical and gay.
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So religious hypocrisy necessarily veers into effeminacy.
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There is a reason why sexual deviance are attracted to the church, and he broke down
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the house of the male cult prostitutes who were in the house of the Lord where the women
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wove hangings for the ash, ashara.
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That's in 2 Kings 23 verse 7.
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Of course, the devil wants to corrupt the church and make a special target of it.
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And that is one of the reasons these bad things happen in the church, but it also happens
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because when devotion to God becomes a matter of display, the whole thing is a perfect
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seed bed of effeminacy.
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If you show off your biceps, you are just being a bore.
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If you show off your rotund vowels as you approach the throne of grace, something far
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worse is about to go down.
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In the Luke passage cited above, Jesus doesn't castigate people for wearing robes, again
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Luke 2046.
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Beware of the scribes who like to walk around in long robes and love greetings in the market
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places and the best seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at feasts.
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Jesus wore a robe, everybody wore a robe.
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Find me someone who wasn't wearing a robe, but still he tagged it.
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So there were two other things going on there.
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Desire and showiness.
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I'm going to read Luke 2046 again.
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Beware of the scribes which desire to walk in long robes and love greetings in the markets
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and the highest seats in the synagogues and the chief rooms at feasts.
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So when it comes to things ecclesiastical, we have to be aware of standing of a standing
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temptation ever present to a certain kind of churchman, which is the temptation to look
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fabulous.
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Next session is called looking like the bride.
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One of the names for a prophet in scripture is man of God, and he's going to talk about
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first Kings 2028.
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And there came a man of God and spake unto the king of Israel and said, thus saith the
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Lord, because the Syrians have said, the Lord is the God of the hills, but he is not the
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God of the valleys.
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Therefore, will I deliver all this great multitude into thine hand and ye shall know that I am
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the Lord.
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And this prophetic mantle is taken up in the New Testament by the minister of the word.
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And we're just going to see this in 2 Timothy 3, verses 16 and 17.
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All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof,
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for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
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That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works, and not to belabor
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the obvious, but one of the foundational duties of every man of God is to be a man.
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You can't be a man of God unless you are a man first, in a well-structured worship service,
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the people of God are meeting with their God.
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There is communion between them, and this communion consists of conversation.
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God speaks, and then we speak, and then God speaks again.
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We speak in the confession of sin, God speaks in the assurance of pardon.
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We speak in the psalm of praise, God speaks in the scripture reading.
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Our congregation meets every week with God for an hour and a half, and we talk about things
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with him.
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We say something, and then we say something, and he says something, and then we say something
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in response.
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Now, obviously, the Lord Jesus is not physically present with us, but he is present in the
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person of his spirit, and he is also present in the office of his representative, the man
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of God.
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When a man prays during the congressional prayer, presenting our petition to God, he
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is representing the congregation to God.
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But when I declare the assurance of pardon to the people after we have confessed our sins,
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I am representing God to them.
21:42
When I read the text to be preached, I am representing God to them.
21:46
When I give the final benediction, I am representing God to them.
21:50
Now, when a man of God is down in the front of the church, discharging his office, it
21:54
is crucial that he be a masculine presence there.
21:57
He is supposed to be representing the groom.
21:59
He has no business being down in the front of the church, looking sweet and virginal like
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the bride.
22:04
And we're going to read Matthew 11 8 here, but what went ye out for to see a man clothed
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in soft raiment?
22:11
Behold, they that where soft clothing are in King's houses, soft raiment is always going
22:17
to be the thing for somebody, but out of all the places you might be able to find it, church
22:22
should be the last place you would look.
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And guys, that's the end of this blog and that kind of gives you the tone here.
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Again, he's coming straight for you and a lot of these different areas.
22:32
And at the end of this, I believe if you had read it on the day that it was released, you
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actually got a free copy of his book, well, in the book is future men.
22:39
And so if that sounds familiar, it's on our book list.
22:41
So if you go to www.indaunted.life/booklist, you will see that on the book list there talking
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about basically how to raise boys and how to make boys into men.
22:52
And so the thing that's really important here is this is just basically a small time pastor,
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right?
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Yeah, he's got some books and he's got some things that are spread out here and there,
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but he's not, you know, one of those names that you hear and everyone's just like, oh,
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yeah, I know, I know Andy Stanley, or I know Tim Keller or some, or I know, you know, one
23:10
of those pastors, you don't really think of him in that way, but he has some incredible
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things to say.
23:14
But there's a lot of reasons why I love the idea of no quarter November, okay?
23:21
And I was just thinking through this because again, not all of the blog posts are great.
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A lot of them are, but it's just like, why is this so important?
23:28
And why did this strike me as odd that it was a pastor doing it?
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And so let me kind of back into some of those opinions.
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But one of the biggest reasons why I love the idea of no quarter November is because most
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people don't have well thought out positions.
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And if you don't think this is true, talk about something real with your group of friends
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next time.
23:47
So don't talk about the college football playoff, don't talk about fantasy football,
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don't talk about, you know, the hot girl in the office, don't don't, don't talk about
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any of that nonsense, right?
23:57
And hopefully I aren't talking about some of that anyway, but bring up a real subject.
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You know, talk about abortion, talk about immigration law, talk about jurisprudence of
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rovy weight, like whatever thing you want to bring up, but most guys don't have a well
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thought out position on just about anything.
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They can be swayed one way or the other.
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And it doesn't really take a whole lot or the positions that they have that are like,
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you know, they're putting their flag in the ground on this position.
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It's on something useless, like the teams they want to be in the college football playoff,
24:26
or the teams that they think should, or who their guys should go get at the winter meetings
24:31
and Major League Baseball, like the guy that their team should sign, like they're so definite
24:35
in these types of things are, you know, this gun over that gun and this car or this car,
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like they're so, you know, definitive on these things that don't really matter, that don't
24:44
really move the needle for anybody.
24:46
They're just hobby based type things.
24:48
But it's just weird to me that most people haven't thought, well, I guess it's not that
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weird to me now that I think about it, that a lot of guys don't have well thought out
24:54
positions on these things because they're not being required to.
24:57
I mean, again, I think we as men suffer from crippling low expectations, and this has been
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passed on to our boys, right?
25:05
Because when you expect less of a man or less of a teenage boy, a young man or a little
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boy himself, then they're probably going to live up to those.
25:13
At least some of them, they're going to live up to those low expectations.
25:16
You haven't been challenged to think of these different things.
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I mean, every single subject matter of this guy's blogs is controversial.
25:25
Whether you take one side of the issue or the other, or even if you take the middle
25:27
road, it's controversial, but it requires you to think through and have a well thought
25:32
out position.
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Now, that doesn't mean that your position is solidified for forever.
25:37
Like that would be absurd.
25:38
I mean, that's the one thing that I really don't like that when people critique politicians
25:43
because they've flipped flop on an issue because here's the thing is I believe it is completely
25:48
possible for you to progress on an issue.
25:51
Now, if you're the type of politician that, you know, basically if the political winds
25:55
are blowing one way, you think one thing and if the political winds are blowing another,
25:58
you think another thing, then then yes, you're being a flip flop or in your
26:02
basically just trying to say whatever it is that you need to say in order to get votes
26:05
to get into office or stay in office, right?
26:08
But I don't really mind it when when somebody is like, yeah, 20 years ago, I thought this
26:13
and that was a really stupid idea.
26:14
I can't believe I thought this way.
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I'm really, really glad I've gotten more evidence and heard more arguments.
26:20
I've changed my opinion on this issue.
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That doesn't bother me.
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Now if you change it like last week and the elections coming up and you were just getting
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pounded in the polls, it's a little bit weird.
26:29
But again, I like the idea of no quarter November because you can't write blogs like this and
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not have well thought out positions.
26:36
So another reason why I love the idea of no quarter November with this guy did is that
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most men are pansies, right?
26:43
And they don't step up and say what needs to be said, right?
26:46
So obviously there were some very, very politically incorrect things that I read when I was reading
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through this one single block, right?
26:54
How many times if I had read that like at a college campus, I would have got shouted down
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maybe chased off campus, right?
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There were a lot of things that were said there was like, oh, no, like you just can't
27:03
go there.
27:04
What's the deal?
27:05
But most men don't step up and say things like that, even if they believe them.
27:10
Something that's been around me recently is I'm like surrounded by these yes men or these
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men that are just basically have their women running their lives for them, right?
27:19
Their wives basically telling them what to do and what they can say and what they can't
27:22
do.
27:23
And to be honest with you, like I'm about fed up with it.
27:26
Like most men are not standing up.
27:27
There's a great example right now.
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I'm obviously not going to use names, but there there's a there's a group right now where
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there is a wife that is basically encouraging a friend of hers to date other men while she's
27:40
still married, right?
27:42
So so here's a scenario.
27:43
You got these two married couples.
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The wives are friends and the one wife is saying to the other one, yeah, you should marry
27:48
other guys.
27:49
Your marriage is kind of on the rocks right now.
27:51
You should just marry other guys or sorry, not married, but like date other guys.
27:55
You should go on dates with other guys, right?
27:57
And and that's the thing is the other husband, the husband of the woman who's encouraging
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this behavior apparently wants to step up and say, Hey, that's really inappropriate because
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it freaking is right.
28:09
It's horrible, but he's not saying anything because he's a pussy.
28:13
Like he doesn't want his wife to be mad at him, right?
28:16
Like, Oh, you know, she's going to get mad at me and then maybe we won't get to have sex
28:20
this month and and maybe I don't really know.
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I don't really want my wife to be angry.
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It's like, are you serious?
28:26
Am I the only one saying that your wife is actively trying to help someone break a covenant,
28:32
break the covenant of marriage?
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Really?
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So I feel like I'm around this.
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And so when you have something like this, like what this pastor is doing, he's stepping
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up and saying what needs to be said in a lot of these situations because here's the thing
28:44
is again, since he's a pastor, he's kind of insulated because most people don't take him
28:48
seriously anyway, because he believes in God, right?
28:50
So if you're a secularist or, you know, one of those types of people, you have that kind
28:54
of worldview, atheist, agnostic, you're dismissing his opinions anyway, but he's still going
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to say them because a lot of pastors won't.
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And that's going to really lead me into my last point is that more pastors need to be
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doing stuff like this.
29:07
So that's why I love that no quarter November is out there.
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I mean, this isn't some sort of thing that is, you know, gone viral or taken over by any
29:13
stretch of the imagination, but more pastors need to be doing stuff like this.
29:17
We need our pastors going into the untouchable areas of society, the things that you can't
29:23
really talk about.
29:24
The things that you can't look at scripture and exegetically explain what it's saying.
29:30
And there's a, there's a story about this that kind of helps me elucidate this point
29:35
a little bit further.
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But like I told y'all and like a lot of you know, I attended life church for over 10
29:39
years.
29:40
And so that is the, the church that helped that founded the U version Bible app.
29:43
I think it was the first church to do multi site, you know, first church to do church online.
29:47
So an incredibly innovative church, one of the best evangelical churches, one of the best
29:52
gospel spreading churches on the planet earth.
29:54
So there I've given them all the compliments and Craig Rochelle is a phenomenally talented
30:00
man has puts out a lot of books, sells a lot of books and is a great speaker.
30:05
But the thing in attending this church for over 10 years that I noticed is that Craig
30:11
really wouldn't push the boundaries because a lot of people think, Oh, he's, you know,
30:15
he's edgy and he's kind of new wave and you know, he's, he's really pushing, but he really
30:20
wasn't.
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He was just kind of saying the same things year after year after year, there was, you
30:25
know, you had the money series and then you had the marriage series and then you had the
30:28
men's suck series and then you had the, you know, this random self healthy series and
30:32
you just had that every year.
30:34
But there were so many things that were going on societally that he wouldn't touch.
30:38
You know, he wouldn't talk about gay marriage and he wouldn't talk about same sex attraction.
30:42
He wouldn't talk about fundamentals Islam.
30:43
He wouldn't talk about transgender, transgenderism.
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He wouldn't talk about any of these things.
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And so me as, as a member of the church, I'm like, man, I really want to be biblical in
30:53
my understanding of what the Bible says.
30:55
And I want my pastor to kind of direct me on, on how to operate in these types of situations.
31:00
And to be honest with you, I met with some of his staff members, not to talk about this
31:03
specifically by any means, but I did mention it.
31:06
I was like, Hey, do you know why pastor Craig doesn't talk more about like real issues?
31:12
I mean, it's not that the, the Bible stories he's teaching us are wrong, but by any stretch
31:16
the imagination, like there was value that you could glean from those sermons.
31:19
But it's like, there are so many things happening in society right now.
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And this is such a big church.
31:25
And we need an opinion leader.
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That's not a moron or that that's not a politician or not some dope on Twitter, right?
31:33
I want my pastor to kind of tell me how to traverse these situations.
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Why doesn't pastor Craig talk about it?
31:38
And the response was a response that was a knowing response.
31:42
This wasn't somebody guessing, she said that there was an active attempt by him to not
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unnecessarily go into potentially offensive subject matters, right?
31:54
He didn't feel that it was necessary to talk about some of the things like the subjects
31:58
that I mentioned earlier from the pulpit because it would not lead to potentially not lead
32:03
to further conversations or the ability to maybe reconcile some of these issues or sins
32:08
with these people and let's just say I was not thoroughly impressed with that answer.
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Like not at all.
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But here's the thing is all pastors need to be on notice, all of them, because your flocks
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are confused.
32:23
Do you all remember the episode I did about the state of theology?
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Just a few episodes back.
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Do you remember some of the things that people inside the church evangelicals believe?
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How do you think that happened?
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Do you think it's because of a bunch of dutiful pastors that were just basically teaching
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the gospel and teaching all the stories they're in or do you think maybe it's because, all
32:44
right, I want to do a pass or I want to do a series on self-esteem, right?
32:50
And then they basically set out four pieces of paper and they start taking notes and then
32:54
they start basically trying to bring scriptures from here or there to put it into this message
32:59
series about self-esteem because we need people to be thinking highly of themselves rather
33:04
walking through the church, right?
33:05
We can talk about the gospel later, but really, we need to talk about self-esteem, right?
33:09
Is it potentially that there's a lot of that stuff going on?
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A lot of this soft subject matter, subject matter that really doesn't have anything to
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do with the gospel or anything that points us towards the gospel?
33:21
I mean, we got here because of a particular reason.
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There's a reason why the state of theology is so poor and so many important areas.
33:30
And so the thing that I'm really, really happy about that Doug Wilson did is that he was
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going to go into all these different subject matters.
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Again, I don't agree with everything that he said and there's certain times where I was
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like, ah, you probably could have said it a little better than that.
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But at least he's saying it, man, at least he's talking about it.
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I feel like so many of these mega church pastors or the celebrity pastors, they're just unwilling
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to go into these areas because they're afraid that they're going to lose part of their flock,
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right?
33:56
Because it's really, really unpopular to talk about divorce in the church, right?
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Because the divorce rates are the same in the churches.
34:01
They are outside the church amazingly, right?
34:04
And so it'd be really, really offensive if a pastor got up there and said, ah, yeah,
34:08
if you divorced your spouse and it wasn't basically, they didn't die or basically it
34:13
wasn't because the covenant of the marriage was broken.
34:15
If you both just got together and decided that you didn't want to be married anymore,
34:18
that you're living in adultery so that if you marry anybody else, regardless of if they
34:25
had ever been married before, they're also now living in adultery.
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Yeah, you don't want to talk about that?
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That's not a popular opinion, but it's biblical.
34:34
It's scripturally true, but it's going to [inaudible] all part of the flock so we don't need
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to talk about it.
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So man, this is the call to any pastors listening to this.
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All right, no, there's a lot of guys in seminary right now that will eventually become pastors.
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Please do not become one of these pansy pastors.
34:49
Like that doesn't mean you need to be hellfire and brimstone all the time and always bringing
34:54
the truth and like pushing people down and doing all that crazy stuff, but gosh, you've
34:57
got to stand up at some point, right?
35:00
It's okay to be a pastor and have balls.
35:02
It's completely okay.
35:04
Not everything has to be about mercy.
35:06
Like you've got to have truth.
35:09
You've got to have truth with so many of these individuals, and it's just not being spoken.
35:13
We can't expect our politicians to do it for us anymore, right?
35:17
I feel like a lot in a lot of ways the church has been lazy in the United States because
35:20
we've, Christendom has been at the top of the heat for so long, but we do live in a post-Christian
35:25
culture now.
35:26
So who's going to be the one stepping up and talking about truth?
35:30
I mean, just the other night, I had a really, really good experience with a buddy of mine.
35:34
He is somewhere, he's probably an atheist, right?
35:38
I was going to say he was agnostic, but let's just call him an atheist.
35:41
This guy and I disagree on basically everything.
35:44
Like politically, we disagree on every single issue, but he and I get along really, really
35:49
well because we have a similar love for heavy metal music, right?
35:52
Yeah, we differ on which bands we like and we differ pretty starkly on several different
35:58
bands, but there's a few key bands including August Burns Red that is the favorite of undaunted
36:03
life, but we can kind of connect on those issues.
36:06
He and I grabbed a drink earlier this week, and we talked for about three and a half hours,
36:12
and we talked about immigration, we talked about global warming, we talked about abortion,
36:17
we talked about God, we talked about the deity of Jesus.
36:20
We talked about how movies and music, we talked about everything.
36:25
And guys, I'm telling you, we disagreed on everything, but it was literally one of the
36:30
most fun nights that I had because there was this overarching feeling that we knew that
36:36
we were going to be able to shake hands and give each other a bro hug and go on with our
36:40
days, right?
36:41
And we pick up right where we left off the next time we hang out.
36:46
It was, but you wouldn't think like, oh my gosh, like I said some really offensive things
36:50
to him, right?
36:51
Things that really offended his sensibilities where he just looked at me like, are you crazy?
36:55
One of those things being that if a woman was raped, I don't think she should be able to
36:58
get an abortion and kill her baby.
37:00
Like he looked at me like I was literally insane.
37:02
Again, and if you say that in a public context, people are going to look at you like you're
37:06
insane because in my opinion, just because you were wronged and you were sinned against
37:10
and you were brutally, you know, taken advantage of in a sexual manner, that does not mean you
37:15
get to kill someone else, right?
37:18
And I'm not going to redo my abortion podcast.
37:19
Go back and listen to it if you want to hear it.
37:21
But it was just one of those things where he and I both said things that was going to be
37:25
potentially offensive to one another, but we were both sharpening our own swords.
37:30
We were getting better.
37:31
We were, we were learning the other side's position and what they think and how they think.
37:36
And it was really, really important to go through something like that.
37:38
And I feel like pastors are not taking those same risks.
37:43
They're not saying the thing that might get them the strongly worded email or might even
37:48
get someone to come up to them, you know, who's piping mad right after the sermon.
37:52
I kind of feel like if you're a pastor and you're only getting positive feedback, you
37:56
might need to rethink the way that you're talking.
37:59
You might need to rethink the subject matter that you're going into, right?
38:02
And so again, I know I'm kind of belaboring the point at this point, but I can't encourage
38:07
you guys enough to be a little bit more bold for, for some of you, a lot more bold.
38:14
When there's something that needs to be said and you know you're standing up for truth,
38:17
be the one that stands up.
38:19
Don't wait for your friend to do it.
38:21
Don't wait for your dad to do it.
38:22
Don't wait for your pastor to do it.
38:23
Don't wait for your coach to do it.
38:24
Your boss to do it.
38:25
You do it.
38:26
Stand up.
38:27
Have something to say.
38:28
Have something to live for.
38:29
Have something to defend.
38:30
It's really important.
38:31
All right, guys.
38:32
Before we get out of here, we're going to do a quick resilience boost.
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As you know, by now, we are a men's ministry and our mission is cultivating mainly resilience.
38:38
And specifically, we do that providing by providing content that for just spiritual mental and
38:42
physical toughness.
38:43
So today we're going to talk about the mental toughness side.
38:45
Obviously, I'm going to give you the the links to all the stuff that we talked about.
38:49
So I'm going to give you a link to Pastor Doug Wilson's website so you can look at his
38:53
blogs that he posted, but also some of his other blogs and other things that he does
38:56
in his books.
38:57
And I'm also going to share with you the cross-politik appearance.
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So I have the YouTube video of his appearance on the cross-politik show so you can kind of
39:04
get a sense of where he's coming from and the things that he said.
39:07
And then basically, I'm going to be including the links to everything that we talked about
39:11
earlier.
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So just to run down the list again, I'm going to give you the links to these blogs.
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Surpluses are for sissies, burn all the schools, smash the matriarchy, horny Presbyterians
39:21
and woke Baptists, evolution as an uncommonly silly idea, PCARIP, those bio-logos unbelievers
39:29
against justice, the modest winches, sexual imbecility for imbeciles, modern art and the
39:35
dearth of culture, your suburban church needs a drum kit the way Johann Sebastian Bach needed
39:40
a kazoo in praise of America, November 33rd, in hell where they already have it.
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And oh yeah, that was the last one.
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Sorry.
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That was kind of a weird way to end that.
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But yeah, those are the links I wanted to provide to you guys.
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I cannot encourage you more to share those around and get some conversations going around
39:57
on that subject.
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All right, guys.
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