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049 - The State Of Theology

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049 - The State Of Theology
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In this episode, we dive into the alarming findings of the State of Theology survey, which reveals a troubling disconnect between evangelical beliefs and biblical truths. It's time for men to step up, confront these misconceptions, and ensure our theology aligns with Scripture.
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1:09 This is Undaunted Life of Man's Podcast.
1:12 I'm your host Kyle Thompson, let's get into it.
1:14 All right, guys, the name of today's podcast is the state of theology.
1:18 I want to acknowledge something right off the top.
1:20 This is not the start of like a series of things called the state of whatever the word is.
1:25 So last week, so episode 48 of this was called the state of civility.
1:29 This is a complete happenstance kind of an occurrence here, okay?
1:33 So this was not the plan to do two in a row that were the state of something,
1:37 but this is just the way the cookie crumble, all right?
1:40 So don't anybody at me, don't tweet me, don't let me know that this was weird.
1:43 I know that it's weird.
1:44 I'm acknowledging that it's weird right off the top.
1:46 So the state of theology is something that I've wanted to talk about for several weeks,
1:49 but I haven't really known where it would fit best to kind of fit in.
1:53 There seemed to be a lot of stuff going on in culture and a lot of stuff going on in the news.
1:57 And so some other things just hit around those times.
2:00 And so this is just the way the cookie crumbled again.
2:02 Last week, we talked about the state of civility.
2:04 If you haven't heard that episode, go back one week to episode 48.
2:06 But here we are talking about episode 49.
2:08 So what in the world am I talking about the state of theology?
2:11 Now, some of you are probably aware, but most of you are not aware that there is a state of theology survey
2:18 that is done every two years.
2:20 So if you're familiar, you might be familiar with LifeWay or Ligonier Ministries.
2:24 That was R.C. Sproul's ministry.
2:26 Well, still technically is his ministry, even though he passed away at the end of last year.
2:30 But this is something that's done every two years to kind of get the theological temperature
2:35 of what is currently going on in America.
2:38 And so it's a really interesting study.
2:42 The last one was released here in, I think it was September, October of this year.
2:46 And it was the third one of its kinds.
2:48 So spread out by two years.
2:49 The one this year was conducted during April and May of 2018.
2:54 And they got just over 3000 respondents.
2:57 And this is really, really important, especially when we get into what this found, what the study found,
3:03 is how the study was broken into categories.
3:05 Okay.
3:06 So it looked at two different groups of people.
3:08 So the other, so let me just kind of get in.
3:11 I was trying to think of the best way to break this down, but we'll just keep it simple.
3:14 So the first group is just Americans in general.
3:17 So that's obviously really easy.
3:18 So anyone that's currently living here, currently a citizen, Americans in general.
3:22 And then the second category are evangelical Americans.
3:26 Okay.
3:27 And that was about 581 was the number of people that considered themselves to be evangelicals
3:33 out of that group of 3000 or so respondents.
3:36 Okay.
3:37 Now, before we get into all the things that this found and what this is going to show us,
3:41 I do want to kind of go into a little bit about what they meant when they talked about evangelicals,
3:46 because you hear that term on the news, you may have used it yourself.
3:49 Maybe it's used at your church, but we don't know exactly what that is, right?
3:53 So we don't always have a definition.
3:54 But for this survey and for league and your ministries, they were very, very, very specific
3:59 about what this meant.
4:01 So I want to go over the kind of the four things that they put in for you to self-identify
4:06 as an evangelical in order to self-identify in this survey.
4:10 To be an evangelical, you had to agree with the four following statements.
4:14 Number one, the Bible is the highest authority for what I believe.
4:18 Number two, it is very important for me personally to encourage non-Christians to trust Jesus
4:25 Christ as their savior.
4:27 That's number two.
4:28 Here's number three, Jesus Christ's death on the cross is the only sacrifice that could
4:32 remove the penalty of my sin.
4:34 And number four, only those who trust in Jesus Christ alone as their savior receive God's
4:39 free gift of eternal salvation.
4:42 So that's very important.
4:43 So keep that in mind as we're talking about the different ways that this breaks down.
4:47 And guys, I tried to, I spent a lot of time really thinking about this.
4:50 I've been thinking about this for the last couple of months, about the best way to,
4:53 to give this information to you.
4:55 So I thought about just summarizing the data in my own way.
4:58 I thought about basically getting a lot of things from other articles and trying to,
5:03 I don't know, piecemeal those together in a way that would be interesting to you.
5:06 Um, I know a lot of you are deeply theological people, but then a lot.
5:10 There are some of you out there that really are.
5:12 And so you don't, you don't want to be talked to with kid gloves on and all those different
5:15 things.
5:16 Like I get it.
5:17 And what I decided to do was that the best thing for me to do is that I was going to
5:20 go through the summary of the state of theology directly from the state of theology.com.
5:25 Okay.
5:26 Again, I'll provide the links here at the end.
5:28 I know I'm pretty specific when it comes to stuff like that.
5:30 But I just want to walk through the things that were said during this because it shouldn't
5:35 take too terribly long because it's not, it's not incredibly exhaustive in terms of its text.
5:40 But the context is really, really exhaustive.
5:43 I feel like, and when you go to the website, which I'm sure you'll do, make sure you're
5:46 not doing it while you're driving.
5:47 Please guys, but it's got a lot of really cool graphics and it kind of helps you understand
5:52 where, where things have shifted from the last time they did this survey, kind of the interesting
5:57 things about the different generations of the people that they pulled.
6:00 But I'm just going to basically walk you through this.
6:02 And so I'll be reading different sections and kind of giving you more of an idea where
6:07 we're at.
6:08 But just to kind of set the stage of this, the 3000 or so respondents, again, the two
6:12 groups, evangelical Americans or just Americans in general, they were asked a series of questions.
6:17 It was several dozen questions and they had to give themselves a response of, you know,
6:22 strongly agree, agree, neutral, disagree or strongly disagree.
6:26 Okay.
6:27 And then they basically put all the stuff together through there.
6:30 So I want to go ahead and get into what that looks like now.
6:32 So let me go ahead and start with reading from the state of theology.com.
6:36 What do Americans think about God, Jesus Christ, sin and eternity?
6:41 Legionnaire ministries state of theology survey helps uncover the answers.
6:45 Every two years we take the theological temperature of the United States to help Christians better
6:48 understand today's culture and equip the church with better insights for discipleship.
6:53 Read some of our key findings from the 2018 from 2018 below and explore the data for yourself.
6:59 So I'm going to go ahead and get into the very first part here.
7:02 So this part, I just want to be very clear.
7:04 This is talking specifically about evangelicals.
7:07 Okay.
7:08 So this is not America in general.
7:09 This is not your regular run of the mill.
7:11 You know, pseudo Christian or whatever they consider themselves American.
7:15 These are evangelicals that hit those four standards from here earlier.
7:18 So here we go.
7:20 Evangelicals have a great concern for the gospel, the evangel.
7:24 Yet a majority of them also express some views that are contrary to the truth of the Bible.
7:29 For example, although evangelicals believe that Jesus died on the cross for their salvation,
7:35 many do not fully understand the gravity of sin.
7:38 Okay.
7:39 So again, I told you there were several dozen statements or questions that were made.
7:42 So here was statement number 11.
7:44 And it was everyone sends a little, but most people are good by nature.
7:49 Again, I'll repeat that because this is one of the most incredibly surprising findings
7:52 from this.
7:53 And everyone sends a little, but most people are good by nature.
7:58 This idea flatly contradicts the Bible, which teaches the radical corruption of every human
8:03 being and declares that no one does good by nature.
8:06 So obviously here, I'll just kind of cut in right here.
8:08 It's talking about Romans three, and this is verses 10 through 12.
8:11 So I'll read that to you here from the ESV as it is written, none is righteous.
8:16 No, not one.
8:17 No one understands.
8:18 No one seeks for God.
8:20 People have turned aside together, they have become worthless.
8:23 No one does good, not even one.
8:26 I'll go back into the reading from state of theology here.
8:28 This is why we need the gospel in the first place, because none of us is good.
8:33 So the thing that was most, I guess, crazy about this was that evangelicals, only 52%
8:41 of people that called themselves evangelicals agree with the statement.
8:46 Everyone sends a little, but most people are good by nature.
8:49 I mean, coming from a kid who didn't go to church, who didn't grow up with all these
8:54 Bible stories, that was one of the things that was the most surprising thing in the
8:57 world to me.
8:58 Now I would have expected something along the lines of 52% from maybe just Americans
9:03 in general, but 52% of evangelicals think that most people are good by nature.
9:10 And I guess, you know, I'm sure we'll get into a bunch of different definitional arguments
9:15 throughout this.
9:16 And I guess it's really coming down to one word, which is good.
9:19 Like what do we see as good?
9:22 And guys, I know this is kind of a heavy start, but man, 52% of evangelicals think that most
9:28 people are pretty good.
9:29 Yeah, that's crazy.
9:30 All right, we'll get back into the reading here.
9:32 Evangelicals are also confused about the exclusivity of Christianity and its objective
9:36 claims to truth.
9:38 There has been a slight increase in people who agree with this unorthodox view since
9:42 2016, those future surveys will need to confirm this trend.
9:47 So this is going into statement number three.
9:49 So I'll read statement number three here.
9:52 God accepts the worship of all religions, including Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
9:58 Okay.
9:59 So back in 2016, 49% of evangelicals agreed with this to only 43% disagreeing.
10:06 And this year, it's up to 51% agree versus 42% disagree.
10:10 So 51% over half of evangelicals in United States believe that the worship of all religions
10:17 is accepted by God to include Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
10:21 So that's got to be pretty concerning because again, this goes in the face of what we know
10:26 to be true, you know, specifically within John 424.
10:30 So I'll go ahead and read that here.
10:32 God is spirit and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
10:36 Okay.
10:37 So we're talking about truth here.
10:38 So let me go back into reading from state of theology.
10:40 The Bible is clear that the gospel is the only way of salvation and God will not accept
10:45 the worship of other face.
10:47 It is only through Jesus Christ and by his spirit that we are able to worship the father
10:50 in spirit and in truth, again, going back to John 424.
10:55 So this kind of gives you a sense.
10:57 We're only two statements in and we're going to go over several more throughout this podcast.
11:01 But man, just think about that.
11:04 And I know I'm kind of talking from a different point of view, but think about you guys.
11:07 I mean, we want you to be thinking about the things that you believe as you go through
11:11 this and whether or not you've wrestled with some of these things because, you know, we'll
11:15 kind of get into objective truth and some different things later, especially when we
11:18 work with Americans and not just evangelical Americans, but over 50% of people think that
11:24 God accepts your worship.
11:26 If you were worshiping, you know, using Islam, using being a Muslim, right?
11:32 And I think that's really, really interesting, especially considering what most of us now
11:36 know about what's in those seras, what's in the Quran.
11:40 So man, just crazy, but we'll keep it going.
11:43 However, on an encouraging note, evangelicals overwhelmingly agree that justification is
11:48 by faith alone.
11:49 Okay.
11:50 So this goes into statement number 13, which I'll read now, God counts a person as righteous
11:55 not because of one's works, but only because of one's faith in Jesus Christ.
12:00 So 91% agree with that and only 7% disagree like, well, I don't know, I got to understand.
12:09 I just absolutely don't understand this one.
12:12 So if we look at these, these back, these two back to back.
12:15 So over 50% of them think that God accepts the worship of all religions, including Judaism
12:20 and Islam.
12:21 And the next one is God counts a person as righteous, not because of one's works, but
12:25 only because of one's faith in Jesus Christ.
12:27 So let's go ahead and talk about that a little bit.
12:29 The Jews believe that Jesus was a rabbi, but they also think that he pretty much was a
12:34 heretic.
12:35 Right?
12:36 That's why they killed him.
12:37 And then if you look at Islam, they, they believe that Jesus was, was, was a great teacher.
12:42 He's in the Quran, but they also think that he didn't die on the cross.
12:46 If you don't believe me, look up swoon theory, right?
12:49 This is they don't think that Jesus actually died.
12:52 There's a whole bunch of theories as to what actually happened to him, but none of them
12:54 have him dying and then being resurrected three days later.
12:58 How can you coalesce these two things together?
13:00 91% of people of Christian evangelicals believe that God counts a person as righteous, not
13:07 because of one's works, but only because of one's faith in Jesus Christ.
13:11 But then how can he accept the worship of, of a Muslim or somebody that is Jewish?
13:18 Right?
13:19 And I mean, not Jewish, just in terms of where they were born or what their family is, but
13:22 in terms of their actual Orthodox faith or something.
13:26 And then what about Sikhs, what about, you know, naturalists, what about those people?
13:30 So, all right, let's keep going.
13:33 Strangely, while mostly evangelicals strongly believe in just a case justification by faith
13:38 alone, they are confused about the person of Jesus Christ.
13:41 On one hand, virtually all evangelicals express support for Trinitarian doctrine, yet at
13:46 the same time, most agree that Jesus is the first and greatest created being by God, which
13:54 was a view espoused by the ancient heretic areas.
13:57 Okay?
13:58 So one thing I'm not going to do right here before I go into this section, I'm not going
14:01 to explain to you who Arias is.
14:02 If you don't know who that is, that's A-R-I-U-S, just go and look them up.
14:06 Okay, guys, there are just mountains and mountains of research on this guy.
14:11 And I could do an entire separate podcast on the things that he taught and kind of why
14:14 it was popular in his day, why he was eventually deemed a heretic at the Council of Nicaea.
14:20 Now the Council of Nicaea is not how it was depicted in the Da Vinci Code, the movie or
14:24 the book, like all that stuff.
14:25 Maybe I'll do that for another day, but I'm just going to save that for now and we're
14:28 going to go ahead and go into statement number two.
14:30 I know these are a little bit out of sync, but it just kind of paints a narrative for
14:33 us.
14:34 Okay?
14:35 So statement number two is this.
14:36 There is one true God in three persons, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy
14:41 Spirit.
14:42 Okay?
14:43 So amazingly, 97% of people agree with this to only 3% disagree.
14:47 So okay, we're working there, we're getting close, but yeah, okay, there is one true God
14:52 in three persons, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, okay?
14:55 Now this dove tells us into the next statement, which is statement number six, which is Jesus
15:00 is the first and greatest being created by God.
15:04 So this is just concerning in terms of what the findings are.
15:07 So back in 2016, 71% of people agreed with a statement to 23% disagreeing.
15:14 Now it's 78% of people agree with the statement versus 18% disagree.
15:19 So 78% of evangelicals believe that Jesus is the first and greatest being created by
15:24 God.
15:25 Like whoa, like that, that's really, really bad stuff.
15:29 Like I don't really, it's really hard to fathom how people believe that Jesus was the first
15:34 created being.
15:35 We just don't see that within Christology, we don't, we don't see that in terms of reality
15:40 and it just shows a real lack of the things that, that we're seeing.
15:47 Man, it's, it's just really, really tough whenever you look at things through that lens
15:52 and through that perspective, because it really goes back into what people believe about Jesus
15:57 to begin with, because there was kind of this convoluted thing before where, you know, they
16:01 believe that God accepts the worship of all these different religions, but Jesus is the
16:04 only way.
16:05 Again, let's go back to John 14 six, so that in John 14 six, we see Jesus say this, I'm
16:11 the way the truth in the life.
16:13 No one comes to the father except through me.
16:17 If you had known me, you would have known my father also from now on, you do know him
16:22 and have seen him.
16:24 So again, it just, it's really confusing to me where this stuff comes from and will maybe
16:29 tease us out a little bit later when it talks about how we got to this point, but let me
16:33 go and wrap up the section here about evangelicals.
16:36 These results show the pressing need for Christians to be taught Christology, especially as the
16:40 outcome has gotten worse since 2016.
16:44 There is a general lack of teaching today on the person of Christ, a doctrine for which
16:49 the early church fought so hard.
16:51 The Ligonier statement on Christology has been carefully formulated to restate historic
16:56 Orthodox biblical Christology.
16:59 So that link will be here so you can click on that the Ligonier statement on Christology.
17:03 So again, these were some of the more concerning things and that's because we're looking at
17:07 things inside the church.
17:09 So this is what people believe inside the church.
17:12 That is the biggest thing that we really, really need to look at.
17:15 And so, but now as we transition to the next part of the podcast, we're going to look at
17:19 what just Americans think.
17:20 So to be more specific, these are US adults.
17:23 And so again, we can assume that some of these are going to be a little bit different in terms
17:28 of how they're worded and how people view them because again, you're might you're maybe
17:32 dealing with nominal Christians, people that have some sort of a belief in some sort of
17:38 a deity that they kind of call God.
17:40 And so they might consider themselves Christians, but maybe they wouldn't consider themselves
17:44 to be evangelicals because they can't check the four boxes of the statements that we looked
17:48 at earlier.
17:49 But it's very interesting to see what we see nonetheless.
17:52 And so there's quite a few more responses and statements that we're going to be going
17:55 through on this section.
17:56 So let's go back to the site here.
17:59 The holiness of God, when it comes to us adults overall, a clear majority agree with well-known
18:04 doctrines of the Christian faith.
18:06 But beneath the surface, they hold these truths loosely.
18:10 In particular, Americans do not seem to grasp the reality of God's holiness and alarming
18:16 69% of people disagree that even the smallest sin deserves eternal damnation with 58% strongly
18:25 disagreeing.
18:26 So this is statement number 12, even the smallest sin deserves eternal damnation.
18:31 Only 23% of Americans agree with that to 69% disagreeing.
18:38 So obviously these are people that they think of a loving God and they think of sin as being
18:43 a bad thing, but not the smallest sins, not white lies, not hating people, not jerking
18:51 off and looking at porn because everyone does that, right, not that stuff.
18:56 We're talking about the big stuff.
18:57 Yeah, if you murder somebody, if you rape somebody, if you're a gang rapist, like Judge
19:01 Kavanaugh, apparently, if you're any of those things, that's really bad.
19:05 But all these little things, we're not really going to count those.
19:07 So again, it's kind of a loose sense here.
19:10 So let's get back to the website.
19:12 If God is not holy, then sin is not a big deal.
19:15 It is because our understanding of God's holiness that we understand how significant sin
19:19 is.
19:20 And moreover, a majority of Americans downplay the importance of the church's gathering
19:24 together to worship God.
19:26 This shows a characteristic American emphasis on individuality and individuality that runs
19:31 counter to the Bible's teaching.
19:33 This dovetails right into statement number 20.
19:36 Worshipping alone or with one's family is a valid replacement for regularly attending
19:41 church.
19:42 59% of Americans agree with this statement to only 30% disagreeing with this.
19:47 So it's just kind of one of those things where we've seen this happen.
19:52 We've seen a lot of people go through this and I'll just be 100% honest with you.
19:56 I've kind of gone through this in my head before as well.
19:59 Ignoring what the Bible says about the body of Christ, ignoring what Jesus himself said
20:03 about his bride, ignoring everything I know to be true about the ecclesia.
20:08 I thought about it, man, you know, what if I just did a home church, right?
20:12 Even my wife has said, you know, how are we just stay here and maybe watch, you know, watch
20:15 one of the pastors you really like and we'll just kind of do our own thing and everyone
20:20 kind of goes through things like that and to be honest with you, for all the good things
20:23 that, you know, the rap artist, LaCray has done, which, you know, he's kind of fallen
20:29 out of my good graces for some things that I may talk about on a later episode.
20:33 But you know, when he released church clothes, so this was a little mixed tape that he released
20:39 several years ago, it may have been like, you know, six, seven years ago now.
20:43 But when he released that, there were a lot of people that kind of, you know, they were
20:46 into that movement.
20:47 They liked, you know, because Christian hip hip hop was so whack for so long that finally
20:51 there was some guys out there with actual talent.
20:54 And you know, LaCray was one of the guys basically pushing that forward.
20:57 And he released that and I feel like it gave a lot of people a license to not go to church
21:02 and to not be part of the body.
21:04 But even if people don't know who LaCray is or reach records or the one one six click
21:07 or any of that kind of stuff, it's still something that was really, really interesting
21:11 to see that a lot of people think that you just don't need church.
21:13 I mean, I've sat across people at the, at the dinner table or across from coffee or something
21:17 like that.
21:18 And they're like, yeah, we just don't need that, you know, anymore like that's just kind
21:20 of like an old school thing like that was something our parents did like, oh, when was
21:24 the declaration?
21:26 When was the second, you know, basically revelation that came through that we didn't need any
21:31 of that stuff?
21:32 Now, now believe me, I know for a lot of you guys, maybe you're in a community where a
21:36 lot of your churches suck.
21:38 And I know it's like, oh, did he just say that that a church can suck?
21:41 Yeah, a church can suck like hard, like really hard.
21:45 Churches that don't really have great environments for men, churches that don't have great environments
21:51 for kids.
21:52 So your kids are literally kicking and screaming as they're trying, as you're trying to get
21:55 them out the door to go to church, churches that you don't like that you and your wife
21:59 aren't being fed.
22:00 Like I understand that now churches are not just depots for you to be fed.
22:05 They're not troughs that, you know, all the pastors are supposed to fill with all this
22:08 goodness.
22:09 So you can get in there and I'm going to get after it.
22:11 That's not necessarily what the church is there for.
22:13 But not every church is created equal.
22:15 Not all of them do things correctly, not all of them are following the Bible.
22:18 Not all of them are teaching you in the right way.
22:20 And we'll certainly get more into that later.
22:22 But those weren't the declarations that we saw.
22:26 Like Jesus didn't die for just the good churches.
22:30 He didn't just die for his bride where the music's really awesome.
22:35 You know what I mean?
22:36 He didn't just die for the one where all the single women are really good looking.
22:40 He didn't die for all those and none of the others.
22:43 Like come on guys, he died for all of them.
22:45 The church is a body, not a place.
22:48 Okay.
22:49 So let's move along here.
22:50 Why do so many people have this casual outlook?
22:53 Perhaps because of relativism, the popular idea that religious beliefs are purely personal
22:58 opinion.
22:59 So this one's really, really important.
23:00 So let's go into statement number 30.
23:02 Religious belief is a matter of personal opinion.
23:06 It is not about objective truth.
23:09 This one might be the most important one that we see.
23:12 The most important one that we see because 60% of Americans surveyed believe that religious
23:20 belief is a matter of personal opinion, not about objective truth.
23:25 Okay.
23:27 This is a big problem, a huge problem.
23:30 And some of you listening to this may be fall into that category.
23:34 And let me just say to you, there are certain things that are opinions.
23:38 And then there are certain things that are just true or not true.
23:41 And you've heard me talk about this before, okay?
23:45 If in your opinion, the color blue is the best color there is.
23:50 That is not something that can be true, proven true or false.
23:54 It can't be because it's an opinion and let's say your best friend's favorite color is green
24:00 and we surveyed all the people on the planet and more people agree with him, that green
24:04 is better than blue.
24:05 That does not make him right.
24:07 It just means more people agree with his opinion.
24:09 I've used the same anecdote or something close to it before, right?
24:12 I think I did it with Michael Jordan and the Brown James or something like that.
24:16 But that is the reality here is things either happened or they didn't.
24:22 So if you look at the historical accounts of what happened in the Old Testament in the
24:26 New Testament and the Quran and any of the other ancient texts that are used to be the
24:32 undergirding of any other ancient religion or even new religion, those things either happened
24:37 or they didn't, right?
24:40 They were either written down correctly or they weren't.
24:43 They were either passed down accurately or they weren't.
24:48 And most importantly, most importantly, Jesus either died on the cross and was resurrected
24:55 three days later or he wasn't.
24:59 So let me just put it to you this way.
25:01 So I had a good buddy of mine.
25:02 I may have talked about this on the podcast before, but if you haven't heard this before,
25:05 just come along for the ride.
25:06 So a really good friend of mine who's stuck somewhere between atheists and agnostic, right?
25:10 He doesn't really know exactly what he is.
25:12 But all he knows is growing up in junior high and high school, the worst people that he
25:17 knew were Christians, the people that were drinking and sleeping around and sucking
25:21 D's on the weekend, they'd be the first ones on the front pews, crying and raising their
25:25 hands to Jesus on Wednesday, right?
25:27 Pretending to be all holy, judging their classmates and going out and doing the same
25:31 thing that weekend, right?
25:33 Those people and the best people that he knew were people like his parents that had no religious
25:38 background, they were just quote unquote good people, right?
25:41 They just did good stuff, gave to charity, give you the shirt off their back, that type
25:44 of thing.
25:45 So I was working with this guy and he and I were, I just wanted to talk to him about Jesus,
25:50 but also I knew that I couldn't just come at him and show him the Bible because everyone
25:54 that had ever put the Bible in front of him was a horrible person in his eyes.
25:59 And so I took a different tact.
26:01 I wanted to come at him using, using argumentation that wasn't based on the Bible, not because
26:07 the Bible is not sufficient, don't anybody email me, but I just wanted him to see a different
26:11 type of argument for why Jesus was real and why he should believe in the gospel.
26:16 And so he and I went through the Tim Keller book, Reason for God, which you've heard me
26:20 talk about on this podcast several times, it's probably my second favorite book behind
26:23 Fearless, just an excellent, excellent book.
26:26 And it's a book that looks at, you know, the seven biggest arguments for why God couldn't
26:30 exist.
26:31 But then the second half of the book is the seven biggest reasons why it is reasonable
26:35 to believe in a God.
26:36 And the thing that was really important about doing it this way is through weeks and weeks
26:42 and weeks of doing lunch and talking through this book and, you know, dealing with some
26:45 of his objections and all those things, we had great, great conversations and he asked
26:49 me questions.
26:50 I didn't know the answer to it.
26:51 And it was all good because we could research it together.
26:53 It all came down to one seeing goal thing because by the time we got done with this book,
27:03 and I finally said, bro, it's crap or get off the pot time.
27:06 That's where we're at.
27:07 There's not, not a whole lot else to think about.
27:10 He goes, you know what?
27:12 I want to do the same thing I've done with you and Christianity with somebody else about,
27:18 you know, Islam, and I want to do it with somebody else about Buddhism and somebody else
27:23 about Hinduism and Sikhism and Judaism and all these other isms.
27:29 And I understood why you would say that because it was like he was a kid doing a book report,
27:33 right?
27:34 And so if he's doing a book report on the wonders of the world and he only looked at
27:37 one of them, well, clearly you would want to go complete your research and collect all
27:41 the other ones.
27:42 But I told him this, I said the best place to start with your research is to figure out
27:51 if you believe that Jesus died on a cross and was resurrected on the third day.
27:57 Is it not?
27:59 I mean, literally just think about that because if that didn't happen, then bro, open up
28:05 the floodgates.
28:07 Let's bring in all the research we can because there is one religion that is putting up Jesus
28:13 as the guy.
28:15 There are other religions where he's mentioned, but only one has him as the guy that can take
28:19 care of all of our sins, right?
28:21 One dude.
28:23 So you got to start there.
28:25 And so I know that took me a while to spin that web for you, but just understand that
28:29 that was the thing I had to tell him is you don't need to spend weeks and weeks and weeks
28:34 and months and months and months looking into Islam and then move on to the next one because
28:37 guess what?
28:39 Islam is bunk if Jesus died and was raised three days later because then that means he's
28:45 our savior.
28:46 He's everything that we see shown in the Old Testament.
28:50 That's pointing towards something, everything that was prophesied.
28:53 All that's true.
28:54 And it was fulfilled in one man, Jesus of Nazareth.
28:59 So start there.
29:00 So when we come to this statement again, religious belief is a matter of personal opinion.
29:06 It is not about objective truth.
29:08 What in the world 60% of people agree with that.
29:11 And it goes right back to what was mentioned right before I read that statement.
29:14 It's about moral relativism because it is seen as offensive now to say something with
29:20 any definitive nature aside from the fact that saying anything with definitive nature
29:26 is bad.
29:27 You can say that that's like a truth claim without claiming to be true, right?
29:31 But that's something that's got to be incredibly disheartening for people as you're operating.
29:35 And for some of you listening to this year in ministry, how's this working out for you?
29:40 All this relativism.
29:42 You don't think that seeps into the church guys?
29:45 It's absolutely seeking him into the church.
29:48 The church is becoming downstream of culture.
29:50 It has been for a while, but man, it's just incredible.
29:54 We'll get more into that here in just a little bit.
29:55 So let's get back into the website.
29:58 Even 32% of evangelicals say their religious beliefs are not objectively true.
30:03 So this is related to the last thing.
30:05 So we just talked about the percentage of Americans.
30:07 So 60% of Americans think that, you know, it's not about objective truth, but let's
30:11 look at evangelicals statement number 30, religious belief is a matter of personal opinion.
30:16 It is not about objective truth, 32% of evangelicals agree with that.
30:21 So we're going out from both sides here.
30:23 I know I spent a lot of time talking about the Americans, 60% of Americans believe that.
30:27 You can kind of feel like it because they're, you know, steeped in culture, but 32%, about
30:32 a third of American evangelicals believe the same thing that there's no objective truth.
30:38 These are people that say the Bible is their highest authority.
30:41 And yet we have no objective truth, like no objective truth.
30:45 That was a sound to me hitting myself in the forehead.
30:47 This is so frustrating.
30:48 Like I'm going to lose my voice from like freaking out.
30:50 I've already read this stuff.
30:51 I knew it was going to talk about it, but are you kidding?
30:55 Come on, people, pastors, where you at?
30:59 This is your fault to a large degree.
31:02 What kind of nonsense are you teaching from the pulpit?
31:05 This is ridiculous.
31:06 Okay.
31:07 We're going to move on.
31:08 We're going to keep going.
31:09 All right.
31:10 If Christianity and his doctrines such as the holiness of God and the resurrection of Christ
31:13 are merely matters of personal opinion, then we are truly lost.
31:18 This statistic is a reminder that Christians must contend for the quote unquote true truth
31:24 of Christianity when engaging with the culture.
31:27 Jesus believed in absolute truth.
31:29 And he said that the truth would set people free.
31:31 Obviously, that's making, you know, it's alluding to John 832.
31:35 So man, like the just think about that one of all the things we talked about.
31:40 That's probably the thing that's the most concerning, got to say that's the most concerning
31:43 and there's a lot of stuff that's concerning in here, but let's keep going and now let's
31:46 go ahead and get into ethics.
31:49 This year, for the first time, more Americans agree that the Bible's teaching on same sex
31:54 relationships is outdated than disagree.
31:57 So let's look at statement number 29.
32:00 The Bible's condemnation of homosexual behavior doesn't apply today.
32:04 Again, the Bible's condemnation of homosexual behavior doesn't apply today.
32:10 43 or 44% of Americans agree to only 41% disagree.
32:16 So it will just keep in the website here.
32:18 And only a few short decades, Americans sexual ethic has changed significantly and it continues
32:24 to move away from a Christian ethic to a secular and relativistic one.
32:28 So this is something that is incredibly, incredibly concerning for us.
32:35 And it's something that's become harder and harder to traverse because when the Obama administration
32:41 and when the Supreme Court literally just shoved gay marriage down our throats, that
32:46 was something where the conversation essentially ended that you can no longer have a debate
32:51 because if people can get married, then clearly their relationship is okay.
32:55 It's morally acceptable.
32:57 It's natural, right?
32:59 And then you have all these people saying that, okay, what about polyamory?
33:02 What about, you know, basically people with multiple husbands, multiple eyes?
33:05 What if people that want to get married to their favorite horse or goat or something
33:08 like that?
33:09 Oh, that's not the same thing.
33:11 You can't call that the same thing, but that's the track that we're on.
33:14 If we're being honest, we're just expanding into different things because if, if love
33:19 is love, hashtag love is love, hashtag love wins, then who gets to define the parameters
33:25 of love?
33:26 You, the new culture warrior, social justice warrior, you're a dude.
33:33 You think you're in love with a dude.
33:34 You marry a dude.
33:35 Well, I have a wife.
33:37 What if I want two more?
33:39 What if I can convince two more on chicks to marry me in addition to the one I'm keeping?
33:45 Really?
33:46 Is that going to be acceptable?
33:48 You can't define my love.
33:50 I love all three of these women.
33:52 They also love me and we're all going to be married, but that's currently not legal.
33:56 Right?
33:57 That's a problem.
33:58 Can we really stop my definition of love?
34:01 What if it's an animate object?
34:03 Can I marry my coffee cup?
34:06 I don't know how responsive of a sexual object that's going to be.
34:08 But can I marry it?
34:11 Can I get some legal ramifications for that?
34:13 I know I'm being a little bit ridiculous, but some of these arguments go that exact direction.
34:17 But just think about where that's coming from.
34:19 I know, guys, I'm 31.
34:21 I know a lot of you are.
34:22 I think I'm 32.
34:23 Sorry.
34:24 Can't even count these days.
34:25 I'm 32.
34:26 But for a lot of people listening to this podcast, you're a little bit older than I am.
34:29 Think about how much this issue has changed in society just during our lifespan, especially
34:36 your parents or grandparents' lifespan.
34:38 I mean, just remember back this.
34:40 I've mentioned this before.
34:41 Back in 2007, 2008, when Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were vying for the Democratic
34:47 ticket, again, then go what the Democratic Party is today 10 years later.
34:52 But let's go back to that time.
34:54 Both of them were against gay marriage.
34:57 Both of them, right?
35:00 Hillary Clinton trying to be all new wave and new left and all these things in Barack
35:04 Obama being the great savior, let's light up the White House with the rainbow flag.
35:08 Let's do all those different things and all the lights and all the nonsense.
35:11 He was against it until it was politically untenable to have that opinion.
35:16 He didn't give a crap about gay people.
35:19 Come on.
35:20 Now, this is nonsense.
35:22 But just think about where the ethic is shifted.
35:25 It shifted so far and so significantly in the other direction.
35:28 It's certainly not going to snap back.
35:31 So think about how you're going to act and how you're going to go as this continues
35:35 to go because I mean, you're going to have to contend with that opinion.
35:39 All right.
35:40 Let's keep going here.
35:41 However, the medium may be exaggerating the extent of this upheaval to referring to the
35:45 upheaval in the opinion about sexual ethics.
35:49 Many Americans continue to agree with biblical ethics.
35:52 Our 2018 survey finds a slim majority in the United States now agree that abortion is a
35:58 sin up from 49% in 2016.
36:01 So this is something that makes me incredibly happy.
36:04 Okay.
36:05 Because this is looking at statement number 27, which is abortion is a sin.
36:09 And these are people that are not considering themselves to be evangelicals.
36:12 These are just Americans 52% of people agree that this is a sin.
36:17 So again, I've talked about this a lot.
36:20 Abortion's my one issue.
36:22 Go back to episode six of this podcast abortion is my one issue.
36:25 You're never going to move me off of that issue.
36:27 Okay.
36:28 So if abortion is sinful, if people think that it is morally reprehensible, that it is
36:34 wrong, that it is murder, if that becomes the overwhelming majority opinion, then we
36:40 will see laws in this country and we will see the next generation be downstream of that.
36:47 Okay.
36:48 Roe v. Wade didn't end the debate.
36:52 It just opened up the floodgates for more murder.
36:54 That's all it did.
36:56 So let's continue that discussion and let's keep that momentum going because here's the
37:00 interesting thing about Gen Z Gen Z is more conservative than people realize and they're
37:06 also more pro more pro life than people realize everyone just assumes that every generation
37:11 is going to keep getting more and more liberal and more and more secular and all those different
37:15 things.
37:16 And there are certainly going to be pockets of truth and elements of truth within that.
37:19 But science is way different today than it was 40 years ago when Roe v. Wade shoved
37:25 a abortion down her necks way different.
37:28 You can literally see your baby, a 3D version of your baby right in front of you.
37:33 Like you know how many how many human beings have been saved from murder in the womb simply
37:38 because there were like mobile units that were showing pay showing these women, these
37:43 babies, like, you know, looking inside their stomachs and going, look what's growing inside
37:47 of there.
37:48 It's not a useless compa cells like your favorite democratic politician says.
37:52 It's not a meaningless nothing worth nothing.
37:55 Man, so so I'm really, really jazzed about that because at first whenever I read this,
38:02 I thought it just said 52% of evangelicals and I was ready to flip my crap again.
38:07 But this is just Americans in general.
38:09 So it seems as if the tide may be shifting just a little bit when it comes to abortion,
38:14 which I got to say I'm pretty excited about.
38:16 Okay, now let's go into age because this is something I mentioned earlier kind of breaking
38:19 down between different generations kind of where different generations landing on a lot
38:23 of these issues.
38:24 So let's pick back up with the website here.
38:26 The survey picks up some fascinating and perhaps unexpected results in the millennial age range,
38:31 which is ages 18 to 34.
38:33 The views of millennials will eventually shape the future of America.
38:37 The 2018 results indicate strong confusion among millennials and it will be important
38:42 to monitor these trends in future surveys.
38:45 There has been a significant change for the better among millennials across a range of
38:48 questions when compared to the previous state of theology surveys.
38:52 So much so that they score higher than any other age group in several areas, whether
38:57 this is an anomaly or will continue unabated in future years remains to be seen.
39:02 The percentage of those in this age range having evangelical beliefs rose significantly
39:08 to 18% in 2018, which was up from 14% in 2016.
39:14 There was also a large increase in the percentage of millennials affirming that salvation is
39:18 found in Christ alone in that Jesus Christ will return to judge the world.
39:23 So let's look at statement number 34 here.
39:25 Only those who trust in Jesus Christ alone as their Savior received God's free gift of
39:30 eternal salvation.
39:32 So 62% of evangelical participants ages 18 to 34.
39:37 So millennials agree with this, which is up from 53% in 2016.
39:42 That is a huge jump.
39:44 In this survey, you don't really see a lot of almost double digit jumps.
39:47 So that jumped 10%.
39:49 So that's really, really encouraging.
39:51 Now let's go into statement number 19.
39:53 There will be a time when Jesus Christ returns to judge all the people who have lived 64%
39:59 of evangelical millennials agree with this up from 55% in 2016.
40:04 Again, almost a 10% jump.
40:06 At the same time, young adults appear to be drifting away from the Christian worldview
40:10 in other areas.
40:11 Obviously you knew this was coming.
40:13 Individuals are most likely to agree that the Bible is not literally true.
40:17 So here we go.
40:19 Statement number 14.
40:21 The Bible like all sacred writings contains helpful accounts of ancient myths, but is
40:26 not literally true.
40:29 So 53% of millennials agree with that.
40:32 And that's higher than in 2016 and in 2014, which were 46% and 44%.
40:39 Okay.
40:40 So obviously that is taken a nose dive.
40:43 So the thing you have to think about when it comes to this is why are millennials believing
40:48 this way?
40:50 Why is there a detachment away from the Bible and any of the stories within it being literally
40:55 true?
40:56 Because like I've said, many times with each year that goes by, if the stories in the Bible
41:00 weren't real and if they were fabricated or fake, then the Bible would become less and
41:05 less tenable every year, become less and less reliable every year.
41:08 Every year that there were archeological fines or historical findings or different things
41:13 that were dug up, we would see like, oh, this couldn't possibly happen or this could have
41:18 happened the way that it was depicted in the Bible.
41:20 But literally the exact opposite is true.
41:22 We see that a lot.
41:24 The exact opposite is true.
41:25 They're like, wow, we never thought that these, this people group was in this area during
41:30 this time because we've never found anything that would, that would agree with that statement
41:34 until we find it.
41:35 And then it's like, oh, well, that was true, crap, ha ha, we had it wrong, moving on, you're
41:40 never going to see that on CNN, there's not going to be a little blurb that pops up on
41:43 Fox News.
41:44 No one's ever going to show you that, right?
41:46 But it happens, happens quite a bit.
41:48 So that's something that's really important to think about.
41:51 So why are millennials going this direction?
41:53 And to be honest with you, if I was to come up with my own hypothesis, I would come up,
41:57 I would come at it in terms of what they're, they're seeing in higher education.
42:01 So maybe they didn't have a great theological upbringing from their church, their home church.
42:06 Maybe they didn't really pay attention.
42:08 Maybe they didn't go to a private Christian school school or maybe something like that.
42:14 And the thing that we have to think about is who's influencing them and at what times?
42:19 So your brains aren't fully developed until you're 25, but from the ages of 18 till about
42:23 23, you're basically being taught by people that all think the same thing.
42:28 Those college professors would align with the political left and the secular left, right?
42:33 So I remember one of my, my freshman roommate, he was in a, it was like a PR class.
42:40 I think it was like the first class that you take whenever you're wanting to go into PR.
42:45 And he had a professor basically shake his faith at the very beginning because he said
42:51 he just talked about how important words were and how important shifting one word in one
42:56 direction or even one letter in one direction could change the meaning of somebody's entire
43:00 life.
43:01 And the example that he used probably not accidentally was Jesus walking on water versus Jesus walking
43:10 in water.
43:12 Obviously, that only changes one letter walking on versus walking in.
43:17 And he's like, if you heard the story of Jesus as a guy that walked in water, would you have
43:23 thought him to be some, some magical person?
43:26 Probably not.
43:27 Probably not, right?
43:29 And so that was the thing is from him, that, that shook his faith as an 18 year old freshman
43:34 at the University of Central Oklahoma, right?
43:38 Not exactly like some crazy left wing university, but you know, those people are there.
43:44 And so these are the people that are influencing our young, our young minds are millennials.
43:48 And it's the same people that are going to be influenced in Gen Z.
43:51 And so if their head is filled with nonsense, or with what they deem to be fairytales, then
43:57 it's going to be easy for them to be influenced.
43:58 So let's keep going back in here.
44:01 And a growing minority of millennials see God as removed from their daily lives.
44:06 So let's look at statement number 24.
44:08 God is unconcerned with my day to day decisions, 60 or sorry, 36% of participants that are
44:15 millennials agree with this, which is up from 30% in 2016 and 21% in 2014.
44:22 So a growing number of millennials think that God is unconcerned with their day to day decisions.
44:27 Obviously, I don't really need to go into too much detail there.
44:29 Obviously, we know that that is pretty dad gum ridiculous.
44:32 So moving on here, these results overall may indicate an increasingly stark polarization
44:37 of views among young adults.
44:39 Finally, the views of millennials on ethical issues are noteworthy.
44:44 millennials are most likely to say abortion is a sin and increase from 2016.
44:48 So we talked about that in terms of millennial evangelicals, abortion is a sin earlier.
44:53 We were talking about just Americans.
44:55 So statement number 27 abortion is a sin 57% of millennials agree with this, which is
45:00 up from 50% in 2016.
45:02 So for all the things millennials have been maligned for, and you know, for a lot of things,
45:08 we deserve it for in large part, almost a 10% jump in the number of millennials that think
45:13 that abortion is a sin that that would consider themselves to be millennial evangelicals.
45:17 So it's concerning that these evangelicals didn't consider that to be the true before,
45:22 but this is even better that it is that high now, and I hope it continues in that trend.
45:26 So back to the website, there are also most likely to disagree with sexual relationships
45:31 outside of marriage.
45:32 So this is again, talking about evangelicals that are millennials.
45:36 So we're going back to statement number 26 here, which is, or we're not going back to
45:40 it, really introducing it for the first time, excuse me, statement 26 sex outside of traditional
45:44 marriage is a sin, okay, 54% of participants that are millennials agree with that, which
45:50 is up from 47% in 2016.
45:53 So with the sexually promiscuous culture that we're living in and all the different things
45:56 about sex is okay, anytime, anywhere, you know, where protection if it's convenient.
46:00 You know, this is saying that millennials that are evangelicals are starting not to
46:04 really agree with that, which is encouraging back to the website.
46:07 However, at the same time, this age group has the most liberal views on homosexual behavior
46:12 and gender identity, showing the powerful impact of our increasingly secular culture
46:17 on people's thinking this is getting back to what I was talking about earlier.
46:20 So let's look at statement number 29.
46:22 This is something that we did talk about earlier.
46:24 The Bible's condemnation of homosexual behavior doesn't apply today.
46:29 51% of evangelical millennials agree with that.
46:33 So again, downstream of culture, and the next thing, which is statement number 28 is gender
46:38 identity is a matter of choice.
46:41 46% of evangelical millennials agree with this statement.
46:45 So we're not going to get into gender identity and gender dysphoria or any of those things
46:51 on this podcast.
46:52 I promise you, I know I've been promising it for probably 50 episodes now.
46:56 We are going to do an entire podcast on that subject alone.
46:59 I just want to make sure that it's a narrative that is appropriate for everybody because I
47:03 know I'm not going to ever delete it.
47:04 So I want to make sure that everything's all squared away and that you're all getting
47:07 kind of the full accounting of what you should in terms of what you should be looking at
47:11 there.
47:12 But that is a concerning thing to be looking at.
47:16 I mean, 40% think that gender identity is a matter of choice going completely against
47:22 biology, completely against everything that we know about chromosomes.
47:26 But like I said, I almost went into it.
47:28 All right.
47:29 I'm going to get out of it before I get into it.
47:30 All right.
47:31 So here we go.
47:32 We're going to wrap this up with the conclusion from the website here.
47:34 The 2018 state of theology survey reveals deep confusion about the Bible's teaching, not
47:40 only among Americans as a whole, but also among evangelicals.
47:44 There is something very wrong when a majority of Americans can give the correct answers
47:48 to basic Bible questions and at the same time say that their beliefs are purely a matter
47:53 of personal opinion.
47:55 That's that's great.
47:56 That's really, really good line right there.
47:57 These results show the urgent need for sound biblical teaching and the bold preaching of
48:03 the gospel.
48:04 Amen.
48:05 Millions of people do not understand the holiness of God, the reality of sin and the one way
48:10 of salvation in Jesus Christ.
48:13 There is much work to be done, but it is our hope that these findings will serve the church
48:17 in its efforts to reach more people with the faithful proclamation of the truth of God's
48:23 word.
48:24 Obviously, I'm in full support of what this ministry is doing.
48:27 I know that this the results of this finding have been reviewed by hundreds, if not thousands
48:33 and thousands of church leaders, I would assume thousands of church leaders around the United
48:37 States.
48:38 And I hope it's something that they're taking seriously, because again, as I was thinking
48:42 through over the last couple of months of how it would present this material to you and
48:45 how I would try to make it discouraging while at the same time being encouraging and telling
48:50 you the right story, but also giving you a prescriptive path.
48:53 The thing that kind of came down to me is that there's just a bunch of questions that
48:57 you have to ask yourself.
48:58 Okay.
48:59 I'm going to obviously encourage you to go back and read this stuff on your own and make
49:02 some of your own declarations and your own opinions on some of these things that can
49:06 be opinionated.
49:07 But here's just a few questions that you need to be able to ask yourself, okay?
49:11 The first is how's your theology?
49:14 How's your individual theology?
49:16 Yes, dude.
49:17 I'm talking to you, the guy listening to this podcast right now, how's your theology?
49:23 Do you have any?
49:24 Do you feel like you have a theological underpinning for the things that you believe within Christianity?
49:31 So there's you something to really chew on.
49:33 The second question, who's teaching you your theology?
49:38 This one's really important.
49:40 Who's teaching you your theology?
49:42 Like I said, not every pastor is a good one.
49:46 Not every church is a good one.
49:47 Some of them suck.
49:49 They may have been called, but they might suck at their job, just kind of what it is.
49:54 Are they teaching you the right theology?
49:57 Like, who's teaching you your theology?
50:01 Are they qualified to do that?
50:03 Think about that one.
50:04 Next question, who's influencing your theology?
50:10 There's a lot of people that talk about Oprah and the things that she's done to kind of
50:13 influence women and kind of give them this sort of like pseudo Christianity thing, but
50:18 do you listen to Rob Bell?
50:22 Do you listen to Steven Furtick?
50:25 How about Carl Lynch?
50:28 Brian Houston, do you listen to those guys?
50:31 Are they influencing your theology?
50:33 What about that dope down in Houston?
50:35 I can't even remember his name, the, oh, Joel Osteen, is he influencing your theology?
50:42 Are these the opinions that you're letting get in your ear?
50:46 The other question here is, is your theological knowledge correct?
50:49 Oh, I just use them.
50:52 The crazy bad word, right?
50:54 The 2018 number one curse word, correct.
50:58 Is your theological knowledge correct?
51:00 Because here's the thing that's knowable because if you believe something theologically, it
51:06 can be proven true or false without a doubt, unequivocally, because if it's part of doctrinal
51:15 theology, then it can be proven.
51:19 But here's the other thing is I just ask you to ask yourself four questions.
51:26 How's your theology?
51:28 Who's teaching you your theology?
51:29 Who's influencing your theology?
51:31 And is your theological knowledge correct?
51:34 And now I want you to ask the same questions about your wife and kids.
51:41 How's your wife's theology?
51:44 How are your kids theology?
51:47 Who's teaching your wife theology?
51:50 Who's teaching your kids theology?
51:53 Who's influencing your wife's theology?
51:55 Who is influencing your kids theology?
51:59 Is your wife's theological knowledge correct?
52:03 Use your kids' theological knowledge correct.
52:07 And guys, maybe it didn't click with you when I had you ask yourself those questions because
52:11 you can kind of self select out of even doing that.
52:14 But I just up the stakes a little bit, didn't I?
52:18 Because guess what?
52:20 If you're not helping them, dad, husband, someone is, it might be Oprah, it might be
52:28 Joe Rogan, it might be PewDiePie, that YouTube guy, somebody's helping him.
52:36 And guess what?
52:37 If Jolie's Osteen is teaching you and your wife, that's a problem.
52:43 And I'm not saying you have to just find a bunch of reformed guys not saying they're
52:47 bad either, but it's just like, man, you got to find some real substantive places for that.
52:55 And that's my encouragement to you guys here, guys, I didn't go to a seminary, like I don't
53:00 have a theological degree, I don't have an MDiv, I don't have any of those things.
53:05 I got some solid dudes that are in, they're in seminary right now that listen to this
53:10 podcast and I'm like super grateful and thankful for those guys.
53:14 But man, there are so many, so many resources out there for you, you just have to seek them
53:19 out.
53:20 And we'll talk about that more here.
53:21 Guys, let's do a quick resilience boost before I let you out of here, as you know, by now,
53:25 we are immense ministry and our mission is cultivating manly resilience.
53:29 Specifically, we do that by providing content that for just spiritual, mental and physical
53:33 toughness.
53:34 So today, you know, drumroll, please, you obviously know we're going to talk about this.
53:38 Let's get into spiritual resilience.
53:39 So I have the link here for you for the key findings of the state of theology, which is
53:43 what I read through, but also I have the link for the data explorer of the state of theology,
53:49 which basically gets more into what each of the different questions look like.
53:53 And I thought about a lot of things here as well, like, what am I going to give you as
53:56 resources on, you know, different sermons or different this or that or different books
54:02 that you can read.
54:03 But the thing is guys, I'm going to challenge you here.
54:05 Like, you have super computer in your pocket, your product, you might be listening to this
54:09 on an actual super computer, like, this is the deal, like, you can find this stuff.
54:14 The version is one of the most amazing things that could have ever been brought into Christendom.
54:19 I mean that wholeheartedly, not just because it was invented in my backyard, right?
54:24 But the number of devotionals, I mean, like, like daddy devotionals, like real ones, like
54:31 super dense devotionals that you can get on that website for free.
54:34 It's incredible.
54:35 There's a bunch of dopey ones on there as well as to be expected.
54:39 But there's also, there's so much theological knowledge out there as well, free resources
54:44 on websites all over the place, like different ministries, like Ligonier Ministries, right?
54:50 Some of you guys are maybe eventually will go to a divinity school of some kind to all
54:55 my guys out there listening to this that either went through seminary or are in it now, please
55:00 send me anything that you can.
55:03 So tag tag us in any of our social media posts, hit me up at info@undaunted.live, you can email
55:08 me there info@undaunted.live, anything that I can share with the guys on this podcast,
55:13 I will always be willing to do that.
55:15 I'll certainly look at it and test it out myself first, but then I'll send it out to
55:18 everybody else because guys, I just can't underestimate or undersell this to you enough.
55:25 Like this is so incredibly important.
55:27 Like I would just want to make sure that this is something that is at the top of your brain,
55:32 especially when it comes to your family because that is your responsibility.
55:35 You don't think it is, and maybe somebody convinced you it's not, and you watch this
55:38 TED Talk once, and it's like, ah, you know, I think I'll be all right, nope, this is your
55:42 responsibility.
55:43 You need to take care of your household.
55:44 All right, guys, thank you as always for listening.
55:46 This far into the episode, I really do appreciate it.
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56:12 I'm currently booking speaking engagements for the entirety of 2019, so if you want me
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56:24 The email again is info@undaunted.life.
56:27 The website is www.undaunted.life, and you can follow us on Instagram and Twitter @undauntedlife
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56:36 You can check out our free devotionals on the U-Virgin Bible app.
56:38 Just search "undaunted life" under plans, and as always, we want to thank the band August
56:42 Burns Red for allowing us to use their entire music library for our content.
56:47 The intro outro track on this podcast is our song "King of Sorrow," which is off their
56:50 latest record entitled "Thanthum" anthem.
56:53 The links to all of this are in the description.
56:55 I'm your host, Kyle Thompson.
56:57 Remember, keep cultivating manly resilience, keep forging spiritual, mental, and physical
57:03 toughness.
57:04 Keep seeking the Lion of Judah.
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