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This is a Donaldson Life, a man's podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.
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Facts don't care about your feelings. I know a lot of you guys out there, you've heard that
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quote before because I know a lot of you guys out there listen to Ben Shapiro. And so if you are a
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Ben Shapiro guy or even if you're not, you know that that's a phrase that has been attributed to
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him. Facts don't care about your feelings. So that was something that he started saying in
1:02
speeches a long time ago. It's something that he tweeted that's been retweeted I think a quarter
1:07
of a million times or favorited a quarter of a million times. And it's really become a mantra
1:12
for young conservatives and being a conservative myself mainly conservative on a lot of different
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issues. I certainly align with this. And today we're going to be talking about kind of the dichotomy
1:23
between facts and feelings because there certainly is a dichotomy. Then you might be thinking like
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why like what in the world would this attach to but believe it or not, we're going to kind of
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continue last week's podcast. So on last week's podcast we were talking about the Me Too movement
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and how it's been weaponized and how I really felt like it had kind of been run aground because
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of the stuff going on with Judge Brett Kavanaugh and Dr. Blasey Ford. And you know from the time
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that I recorded that I recorded that the Sunday before the Senate hearing that happened later on
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in the week. And so so many things have happened since I recorded that and you know I didn't really
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have time to really go back and record anything. And so I was just going to kind of let it ride
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and see what the week will look like. And so I'm actually recording this the night before the release.
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So this release is on Thursday. I'm recording this Wednesday night. So I wanted to get as much
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of the information in as possible. And so in one quick thing for last week's podcast, I when I
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live back and listen to it, I said Brett Weinstein twice. Whenever I was trying to refer to Harvey
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Weinstein. And so obviously if any of you are familiar with the IDW or the intellectual dark
2:28
web, you know, Brett Weinstein's a part of that. So yes, it's just you know, faux pas misspoke.
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So whoops, that's how it goes. But just to kind of get you all updated if you haven't really been
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following the news on the Judge Brett Kavanaugh and the Dr. Blasey Ford situation. It looks like at
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this point that the FBI investigation is going to be wrapping here soon. There were reports today
2:48
that it would be done and they're going to have a certain number of senators that are going to be
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able to look at the report and everything. But essentially, this is the seventh FBI investigation
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into the past of Judge Brett Kavanaugh. And for the seventh time, they're going to find nothing.
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They have found nothing that would implicate him and any of these different things. And Judge
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Kavanaugh obviously last week he had the votes in order to get out of the committee. It looks like
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the Senate is going to be voting on him this week. And it looks like because of the confidence from
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Mitch McConnell and some of the other folks in the Senate that they feel like they have the votes,
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even if somebody peels off at the last second and it's 50 50, they obviously have the vice
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president's vote Mike Pence as the tie break. So it looks like, you know, all the signs are pointing
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to the fact that Judge Brett Kavanaugh is going to be confirmed. And you know, in the meantime,
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there were two other sexual assault allegations that came out after Dr. Ford's allegations came
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out. And each one was more ridiculous in the last one. The final one was that he was one of the
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proponents or leaders of a gang rape club or something like that. And the evidence for this was even
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more hilariously bad than what was what Dr. Ford brought forward. And it just, you know, basically,
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you can see what this was, is that it was kind of a smear job, what they were just trying to delay
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things, get it until after the election. But it's just kind of how it goes. And it sucks that we live
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in a country right now that is doing this politically, but it's just that's where we live. So,
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but let's go back to the testimony, because I think it's really important for us to talk about
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what went on during the testimony. So unlike what Ford's team wanted, they actually made her go first.
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So I remember, remember me talking about how they want to Kavanaugh to go first, which
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made absolutely no sense. So luckily, they were able to get that all squared away.
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And here's the thing. If you watched Dr. Ford's testimony, you know, she seemed very believable.
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She seemed like she had honestly been moved by something that her life had been, you know,
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irreconcilably altered that, you know, it's gone in a completely different direction. And she really
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did seem like, like she was telling the truth. And I mean, she just seemed highly, highly believable.
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And then you get to judge Brett Kavanaugh, and then we got to see a side of Kavanaugh that we
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hadn't seen yet, because he seemed kind of like, you know, just kind of a ordinary kind of dorky
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guy, right? You know, just unassuming and whatever. But he came out guns blazing.
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Like he came out guns blazing from the beginning. He came out like a guy who wanted to fight.
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Like, hey, these allegations are ridiculous. They've already stained my family name for forever.
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But I'm not just going to sit here and let you just run rough shot over me, right?
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So they were very different testimonies. I guess we could have guessed that force testimonies were
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going to be very emotive in those types of things. And obviously the the Democratic senators were
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making sure to be as emotive as possible with their questioning, because that certainly helped
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their cause. Republicans were trying to be fact based while at the same time being empathetic.
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You had the prosecutor that they brought in, I believe is from Arizona or New Mexico.
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Gosh, that was not a great performance by her. Obviously they needed someone up there that could
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do a little bit more cross examination, not just the process, you know, the prosecutor doing
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going up there and doing her thing, even though in hindsight, she wrote a report saying that,
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you know, there was so little in this case that Dr. Ford brought forward that she could even she
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couldn't even get a warrant to search anything because of the evidence that was presented. Just
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nothing would have been able to get through her normal matrix of things that would get her to that
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point. But but guys, at the end of the day, we have to look at this from a couple of different
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standpoints. So today we're talking about feelings versus facts, right? So from a feelings standpoint,
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like I already said, Ford seems believable. And to be honest, if they had held the vote
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right after her testimony and not given Judge Kavanaugh a chance to come out,
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it's very likely that Kavanaugh would not have been confirmed. I think that's that's really fair
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to say is that Ford seemed very, very believable. These allegations seemed very, very credible,
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even in the it almost made you forget that there's essentially zero evidence aside from
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from her allegations that this ever happened. And then again, from a feeling standpoint,
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is just Kavanaugh seemed believable. I mean, he was so emotional with his denial, how this
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couldn't possibly have happened, that he would never do something like that. You know, talking
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about how his daughter, his 10 year old daughter, you know, was actually praying for Dr. Ford. And
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you could see Judge Kavanaugh's wife over his right shoulder in the frame. And she was trying to
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hold together and being trying to be tough. And so from a feelings standpoint, both of them seem
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believable. So what do we do? If the way we feel doesn't doesn't match reality, like, how do we
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reconcile that? Well, luckily, we don't just look at things from a feelings standpoint, or we shouldn't,
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there's also the facts standpoint, right? And follow me on this dichotomy, because this is going to be
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a little bit of a review of things we've already said or things that you've already heard. But
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from a fact standpoint, this is what Ford has in her favor. Well, it's not really in her favor.
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This is just essentially what we do know is that she can't remember when the alleged assault happened.
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She can't remember where the alleged assault happened. She can't remember how many people were
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in the room when it happened. She said it was two, and then it was four, and then it was three,
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and now it's four again, right? She's kind of been all over the place. And then one, one thing
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that I find to be really, really huge is this, uh, uh, Blasey Ford, who was 15 at the time of the
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assault, she couldn't drive herself. And apparently the, the area of town where this assault took place
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was, was kind of outs on the outskirts, like, oh, not close to her house. So the thing that's
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really important is she can't remember how she got to this party, where the alleged assault happened,
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and she can't remember how she got home. So if we're looking at this geographically,
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we can assume she didn't walk home, right? She claims that she ran out of the house,
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fearing for her life. We can assume that somebody picked her up from this party if she was ever
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there. And just to be honest, if you're 15 years old and you were just, you know, scared within an
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inch of your life, according to you and almost raped, don't you think if it was your mom or your
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dad or another friend that was picking you up or an older sibling that perhaps they would have
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noticed something was a rye, especially if you, you just, you know, had this horrible life-defining
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moment. I mean, wouldn't that be logical? But she can't remember that. She can't remember how
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she got home. Um, the only things that she could actually remember with any certainty or clarity
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was one that she was sexually assaulted to the perpetrator was 100% Brett Kavanaugh.
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And three, she only had one beer that night. So those are like the only details she actually
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can remember, keeping the facts going on, Dr. Ford, all four people that she said were witnesses
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of this assault have refuted her story publicly. Um, the psychiatrist, so back in 2012, she apparently
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told a psychiatrist about during, you know, a couple's therapy session about this assault.
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But unfortunately, the notes from Dr. Ford's session, uh, don't mention Kavanaugh at all.
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So, and if you compare the psychiatrist's notes to the notes, uh, from any of her times that she
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has spoken about this, even through her lawyers, they don't really match up. Uh, and then there was
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some more damning evidence that really came out this week, which was that one of her exes. Um,
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one of Blasey Ford's exes came out and testified that Ford knows how to beat polygraph exams. So
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Dr. Ford is a clinical psychologist and, uh, that she had actually taught other people to do so.
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Like she taught other individuals how to beat a polygraph exam. So if you don't know why this
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is important, it's because her lawyers had her take a polygraph exam. Um, right after these
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allegations were kind of coming out and apparently she passed a polygraph exam, but, but guys, you
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have to understand something about a polygraph test. Everyone calls it a lie detector test,
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which is a misnomer because it doesn't test whether or not you're lying. It tests whether or not you
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believe what you're saying is true. So that might seem like we're splitting hairs, but the thing is
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is like, uh, if, if I think something is true and I say it, even if it's not true, I can pass a
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polygraph because I believe that it's true. I mean, guys, there, there's a reason why polygraph tests
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aren't admissible in court. I mean, it's because there's too easy to game. I mean, you can read a
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couple of blogs and watch a YouTube video and pass a polygraph test. Like this isn't like a
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really, really hard thing. And, and unfortunately for Dr. Ford, well, maybe not unfortunately because
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this would be the justice system. She, she may have perjured herself while she was under oath
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because her ex, her ex boyfriend or ex husband, I can't remember, but he came out and under,
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under threat of perjury himself. He was under oath whenever he gave this testimony that she
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knew how to pass polygraph exams. So there's a lot of really damning stuff out there about Dr.
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Ford right now. And then in terms of the fact side on Kavanaugh, like I mentioned earlier,
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he had already been through six FBI investigations. Like when he worked for the Bush administration,
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he had the highest top level of clearance. Like he had access to, um, you know,
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our nuclear codes and every bit of intelligence that he could have wanted to get his hands on.
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And so they don't just give anybody that type of clearance. I mean, they talk to everyone. I
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remember whenever I got interviewed, um, because my buddy was going to be joining. I don't know if
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I could really even talk about this, but I mean, I guess I'm going for it. He was in the Air Force
12:10
and he was going to be doing some reconnaissance, uh, in language study of, you know, a country that
12:14
we like to keep an eye on. We'll, we'll call it that. And I got interviewed by the military and the
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FBI, like for my buddy, just to get a job with the government, right? And this is a guy that you
12:24
will never know. You will never meet. He will likely never make the newspapers, but I was even
12:29
interviewed for that. And I was just a childhood friend of his. So you would think if someone was
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going to be working directly for the president, that the, the investigations would have been thorough
12:37
and he gone through six of them. And then this week would have been his seventh. And so we can
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assume they've all been thorough and we can assume also that they haven't found anything.
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And I guess the other facts based thing with Judge Kavanaugh would be that we supposedly,
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uh, are supposed to live in a country that still has the presumption of innocence.
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And guys, I know it's going to seem like I'm going on a little bit of a political rant here,
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but, but there's still supposed to be that presumption of innocence, but it seems like the
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feelings based culture has flipped that towards like, no, no, I feel like this is true. So it must
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be true. And you have to prove it wrong, which, I mean, this is, this is, you know, 101 stuff.
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You can't prove a negative, right? I mean, it's, it's impossible to do. You can't prove that.
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And so it's just, again, guys, we get to this whole facts versus feelings thing. And I'm wanting
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to keep the theme of this podcast on that side. But the thing that I find really, really interesting
13:31
is when we do look at politics, and again, this isn't a political podcast, but yeah, you know,
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forgive me, we're going to get a little bit political today. It seems like the political left
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and the political right are in those two camps. So it seems like the political left is very
13:46
feelings driven. And the political right is very facts driven. And so one way that I think is easy
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for us to kind of talk through that, because you might disagree with that. And you know,
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people on the political left think they have it both ways, people on the political right think
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they have it both ways. But you know, as someone who tries to be neutral and intellectually honest,
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I think people on the left are very feelings based, people on the right are very facts based.
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But the thing that we know about bad ideas, so let's pull this back even one more level,
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even a little bit more macro, bad ideas can only be enacted by force.
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So when we're looking at this politically or governmentally, if it's a bad idea, you have to
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enforce it because people otherwise would not vote for it, especially in a country like the United
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States, where we have open elections, where we are democracy, to a certain degree, we have liberty
14:32
in voting, those types of things. And the thing is, is with these bad ideas, is they have to be
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enacted by force, because nobody would support them otherwise. So you see some different pockets
14:45
of socialism here in the United States right now. And the reason why you don't see these national
14:51
candidates right now that currently support socialism is because it's pretty easy to debunk
14:55
socialism as a horrifically bad idea in every stretch of the imagination. And this is not a
15:02
podcast about socialism, but obviously socialism has never worked on large scale. And essentially,
15:07
people that love socialism and want it to be in the United States, these are people that it's
15:12
constantly a moving goalpost for these people, like they loved Venezuela until people, you know,
15:16
pretty much had to start eating dogs down there because they can't even get food. They can't even
15:20
get toilet paper down there. And then it's like, Oh, well, they were never really socialists. So
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it's just a bad idea. And so what we see is we see people in the political left right now fighting
15:29
to take over the court system, as opposed to getting people elected. So it's not that they're
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not trying to get people elected. But when you get people elected, they still technically are
15:39
beholden to, you know, their interest holders, or they're constituents, right? And so they still
15:44
have to do things to please those individuals so they can get reelected. These these court appointees
15:49
don't really have that, especially to an office like the Supreme Court, which is exactly why I think
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that this entire stink has happened to begin with. Like these allegations, which again,
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could be true, but that would fly in the face of everything that we see now in terms of what
16:07
what evidence is out there. But these courts, if if the Democrats can win here, if they can get
16:14
Kavanaugh's nomination, you know, negated or something like that, which doesn't look like it's
16:18
going to happen. And they can get get one of their people on the Supreme Court at some point,
16:22
then basically they can legislate these really, really bad ideas into real life and into law,
16:28
right? And so again, guys, I know I'm going a lot of different areas in this podcast, but I just
16:33
want you to understand the enormity of what we're seeing. I mean, I don't normally talk about the
16:37
same subject two weeks in a row. But to be honest, I really feel like this, this was a watershed
16:43
moment for our country. Like, and I don't want to be hyperbolic and exaggerative and make it seem
16:48
like it was something more than it was. But man, this this is one of the craziest things that I feel
16:53
like I've seen in a while. Like it was just nuts. And just, you know, initially, because you're like,
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Oh man, what if this is true? How how terrifying is this? How could this guy have accidentally
17:03
got onto the Supreme Court with all these allegations? And then you start seeing the evidence or the
17:07
lack thereof. And you're just like, man, this feels like a witch hunt, but they wouldn't do that,
17:11
would they? But I guess the one big thing that this has really helped me think about because,
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you know, we've had two weeks to start really digesting all this is it's kind of made me think
17:22
about Christianity and Christians in particular, and conservatives and how essentially these groups
17:28
of people don't really know how to fight and don't typically know how to fight back or they won't,
17:34
right? And I was listening to a podcast earlier this week where they talked about it briefly,
17:39
it was on the cross politic podcast. And you know, I had the idea before that podcast even came out,
17:45
but that that podcast really helped me solidify in my head. So I'm super appreciative of it. But
17:50
the thing about it with Christians and conservatives is we typically have facts on our side, but we're
17:55
not willing to step up and be loud enough to be heard. You know, it's some it's, you know,
18:00
speaks softly and carry a big stick. And we have this idea where, you know, we don't have to be
18:03
out there and boisterous and scream about it. That's what the other people do or people on the other
18:07
side do in that type of a thing. But I think we saw an incredibly good example of a Christian
18:13
conservative come out, you know, full gangster and really show everybody what it's like to fight.
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And so I think all of you know who I'm going to talk about. This is Senator Lindsey Graham,
18:24
who's a Republican senator out of South Carolina. He shocked the world last week.
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Whenever he addressed the Senate panel, this was when Judge Kavanaugh was giving his his hearing
18:37
and talking to everybody and answering questions and giving a statement. And you know, Lindsey Graham
18:42
started talking to him a little bit and then all of a sudden Lindsey Graham just went off. He went
18:47
half cocked man. He just it was just it was such a powerful moment from a guy to be honest with you.
18:52
I was not a huge fan of this guy was kind of a paper tiger. Like, you know, sometimes he was
18:58
super Republican. Sometimes he was conservative. Other times it seemed like he would just, you know,
19:02
lick his finger, stick it in the air and see which way the wind was blowing. He was just kind of all
19:06
over the place. But he's really made himself out to be a hero in the last week. And to be honest
19:10
with you, if Judge Kavanaugh is confirmed, I think he owes a debt of gratitude to Lindsey Graham.
19:15
Because Lindsey Graham basically called out what was happening in the Senate chambers and what
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was happening in this committee. He was pointing it out for what it was, which was a farce. And so
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as opposed to describing it, and I know some of you don't even know what I'm talking about,
19:28
I want you guys to actually hear the audio of what he said. So I found the audio of it. And
19:35
because I, you know, I saw some places online where they had cut it into like 30 second little clips
19:39
or one minute clips or something like that. But I want you to get the full accounting of the things
19:44
that he said and the tone and tenor. And I'll put the the link to the video in the show notes so you
19:50
can actually watch it because he got very, very animated. So here we're gonna we're gonna stop
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the podcast right here. And I'm gonna go ahead and let you listen to the audio. So here we go.
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FBI reports in the past in the 38 years I've been the Senate. Senator Graham.
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Are you aware that at 9/23 on the night of July the 9th, the day you were nominated to the Supreme
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Court by President Trump, Senator Schumer said 23 minutes after your nomination. I will oppose
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Judge Kavanaugh's nomination with everything I have. I have a bipartisan, I hope a bipartisan
20:29
majority will do the same. The stakes are simply too high for anything less. Well, if you weren't
20:35
aware of it, you are now. Did you meet with Senator Dianne Feinstein on August 20th? I did meet with
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Senator Feinstein. Did you know that her staff had already recommended a lawyer to Dr. Ford? I did
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not know that. Did you know that her and her staff had this allegations for over 20 days?
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I did not know that at the time. If you wanted an FBI investigation, you could have come to us.
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What you want to do is destroy this guy's life, hold this seat open, and hope you win in 2020.
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You've said that, not me. You've got nothing to apologize for. When you see Sotomayor and
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Kagan, tell him that Lindsey said hello, because I voted for them. I would never do to them what
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you've done to this guy. This is the most unethical sham since I've been in politics.
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And if you really wanted to know the truth, you sure as hell wouldn't have done what you've done to
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this guy? Are you a gang rapist? No. I cannot imagine what you and your family have gone through.
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Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it. I hope the American people can see through
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this sham that you knew about it and you held it. You had no intention of protecting Dr. Ford.
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None. She's as much of a victim as you are. God, I hate to say that because these have been my
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friends. But let me tell you, when it comes to this, you're looking for a fair process.
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You came to the wrong town at the wrong time, my friend. Do you consider this a job interview?
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The advice and consent role is like a job. You consider that you've been through a job interview.
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I've been through a process of advice and consent under the Constitution. Would you say you've been
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through hell? I've been through hell and then some. This is not a job interview. Yeah. This is hell.
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This is going to destroy the ability of good people to come forward because of this crap.
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Your high school yearbook. You have interacted with professional women all your life. Not one
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accusation. You're supposed to be Bill Cosby when you're a junior and senior in high school.
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And all of a sudden you got over it. Spend my understanding
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that if you drug women and rape them for two years in high school, you probably don't stop.
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Here's my understanding. If you lived a good life, people would recognize it like the American
23:24
Bar Association has the gold standard. His integrity is absolutely unquestioned.
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He is the very circumspect in his personal conduct, harbors, no biases or prejudices.
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He's entirely ethical. He's a really decent person. He is warm, friendly, unassuming.
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He's the nicest person. The ABA. And one thing I can tell you, you should be proud of.
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Ashley, you should be proud of this. That you raised a daughter who had the good character
23:58
to pray for Dr. Ford to my Republican colleagues. If you vote no, you're legitimizing the most
24:08
despicable thing I have seen in my time in politics. You want to see it? I hope you never get it.
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I hope you're on the Supreme Court. That's exactly where you should be. And I hope that
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the American people will see through this charade. And I wish you well, and I intend to vote for you,
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and I hope everybody who's fair-minded will. So there you have it, guys. I mean,
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I wasn't kidding. Like, if you didn't know who Lindsey Graham was before this, you don't really
24:44
realize how much this was out of character for this guy. And man, he just brought up a lot of
24:50
different things there. I think some of the most powerful things he brought up was Sotomayor and
24:54
Kagan. Those were two of the guys or two of one guy, one gal that were put on the Supreme Court
25:00
that are very, very, very liberal, like incredibly liberal, like dangerously liberal that they're
25:05
on that court, liberal, right? And he voted for both of them. So he went against, you know, what
25:12
maybe most Republicans would want to do now. And he voted for both of those people. So when he said,
25:16
say, hi to Sotomayor and Kagan, tell him I said, hello, you know, for me, I thought that was a very,
25:21
you know, apropos moment that he wouldn't have treated somebody like that based on these baseless
25:26
allegations, right? Just just seeing some of the things that he talked about, like,
25:31
he showed me that even a guy like that, and I'm assuming somewhat soft-spoken senator from the
25:37
south that he can do that. But you can fight back when you need to, that when justice is on the line,
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when the right thing is on the line, that it's okay to get loud. It's okay to fight and defend
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yourself. Like, I just feel like conservatives and Christians, and yes, I'm talking to people
25:54
that are like me. I know there's a lot of conservatives and Christians that listen to this. And if you're
25:57
an atheist and liberal, I don't care, that's great. I'm glad you're here. So listen up, you'll get a
26:02
little bit more of our mindset. But we've got to be able to fight back. And I don't mean with our
26:05
fist guys. I don't mean we need to go and, you know, throw, you know, Molotov cocktails through
26:10
people's windows and, you know, screaming at people in restaurants with all these morons
26:14
that are doing all over the place now. Like, that's not how we should act. But when people
26:19
criticize Judge Kavanaugh for reacting angrily, you have to ask yourself, would you not have reacted
26:26
the same way if you had been accused of something incredibly heinous, regardless of what job you
26:34
might get on the back end. But if somebody just said, oh, yeah, you kill kittens in your living room,
26:40
or, yeah, I, you know, you basically go out and you make sure you shoot animals in the woods,
26:45
but don't kill them. You just wound them. Like, if someone just said said something like that,
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like, that was so out out of this world, they had no substantiation for it. Wouldn't that make you
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angry? Because essentially, this is what people are wanting to do. A lot of people in the mainstream
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media, a lot of people align on the political left or on the liberal side of the aisle. They
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want to end Judge Kavanaugh's life. I don't mean literally, but in like his professional life,
27:08
and keep him from getting the Supreme Court based on one woman's accusations that can't be
27:12
substantiated by literally anything else than her words. So does that mean it didn't happen?
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Not saying it didn't happen. But we have no evidence to believe that it did. And they want us to
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basically take her opinion, or not her opinion, excuse me, but they want to take what she said,
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what she feels like she remembers, what she feels like happened. And just go with that.
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Guys, we can't stand for stuff like that. Inside the political realm or outside the political
27:39
realm, we shouldn't stand for stuff like that in our churches. Like, like, we shouldn't allow
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our pastors or the people that that teach us on Sundays to misquote the Bible,
27:48
or to use things out of context. Like, that doesn't mean you need to stand up and
27:52
necessarily interrupt them in the middle of the sermon. Although that would be pretty awesome,
27:56
and I don't want to watch it. But the guys, guys, we have facts on our side on so many of these
28:00
different things. I mean, look at, look at all these different things that are that are going on
28:03
in our culture right now. We got the transgender debate. I mean, that's completely based on feelings,
28:08
right? Has nothing to do with science. There's no scientific basis or backing for the idea that
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somebody can be gender fluid, that they can float in and out of certain genders that certain days,
28:20
they're non binary, that they're not even a gender. Like, come on, facts would need to come into that
28:27
situation. How about rape culture? You know, that's something that's debated. You know, there's this
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stat going around. And man, I'm even going to call him out on this. But Stephen Mansfield,
28:35
that's my boy. But he even parroted this on his podcast this week that 20% of college females are
28:43
sexually assaulted. Like that stat has been so ceremoniously debunked that it's not even funny.
28:49
Because guys, if that was true, if that was really true, if that wasn't based on feelings, if that
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was based on facts, would anybody send their girls to college? I mean, really guys out there with
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daughters, maybe you have daughters in high school or junior high elementary school, maybe you have
29:03
daughters in college, if there was a one in five chance of them getting sexually assaulted,
29:06
would you send them? Come on. Like the stats are somewhere like, you know, one in a thousand women
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are raped, which is too many, but it's like one in a thousand. And on a college campus, it's more
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like one in 50 something, which again, is insanely too many. But to say that it's 20%, that's absurd,
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it's ridiculous. It doesn't matter what you feel about the situation, it matters what the reality is.
29:30
And that gets us into the whole, you know, triggered culture where it's like somebody says
29:34
something that you disagree with, and you feel like you get to scream and holler and disrupt
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or cry or go to your safe space or something like that. All those things are based on feelings.
29:44
It's not based on facts. Like, that's what we really need to think about this. This isn't just a
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political thing. I mean, the majority of this podcast content has been political, but that's not the
29:53
realm that we're dealing with right now. Like we're dealing with all of it. Like, we've got to be
29:57
able to be realistic. And so I understand, and don't get me wrong, it's not like, okay, we can't
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do anything based on feelings. But if we only base things on facts, that's a pretty good standard.
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But if we only base things on feelings, that's a pretty crappy standard. It doesn't take some sort
30:15
of advanced, you know, thinker to really come up to come to that conclusion either. You don't need
30:20
to be a philosophical genius to think that that's a good way of doing things. But guys, as I was
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thinking through this podcast, and I was thinking through, you know, how I went to frame this, that
30:28
would be most helpful. I went to kind of go through some things that I've felt myself, some things that
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I've that I've believed myself, some things that I've had other people tell me about, that kind of
30:39
go into this whole facts versus feelings things, but on the Christian side. So whenever I've shared
30:44
Jesus with people, whenever I've talked to people about what they believe, you know, there's this
30:48
feeling amongst these people that they need to be clean before they come to God versus, you know,
30:54
the fact of just going to him in the first place, right? You know, maybe this is your story, but
30:59
certainly the story of a lot of my friends where it's just like, you know, they would probably
31:03
consider Jesus, but they'd have to make too many life changes before you would accept them.
31:08
You know, they're just too dirty right now, too sinful. You know, they've done too many bad
31:12
things like that kind of stuff. And at the end of the day, that's a facts versus feelings things
31:17
because they feel like they need to be cleaned up before they get there, as opposed to just going
31:20
to them. Like, like, I've seen that come up quite a bit, actually. It's it's really, I mean, Satan's
31:27
working there, man. That's a great that's a great lie. Not a good lie. That's a great lie. And another
31:32
facts versus feelings thing on the Christian side is I guess the feeling of being saved
31:38
versus the reality of being saved. And so I'll tell a story about me. So again, for any of you
31:44
that know me or have listened to this podcast for any length of time, I didn't grow up in church.
31:48
You know, knowing in my family is very religious. You know, they're just kind of religious in name
31:52
only. Like, if you ask them, do you believe in God, they'd say, yeah, but they pretty much live as if
31:56
he doesn't exist. That that's kind of my family. A lot of parts of my family, especially my media
32:00
immediate family. But when I became a Christian in 10th grade, whenever I was saved or whatever
32:06
language you use in your denomination, because apparently not everyone just uses saved or accepted
32:12
Jesus into my heart, you know, the feeling was incredible, right? You had that focus feeling and
32:19
I got baptized and I really felt like something happened. And I started reading the New Testament
32:23
and kind of going through and everything was just like making sense. And it was just one of those
32:27
things where the feeling was crazy big, y'all. I mean, you get it. And because I didn't have that
32:33
crazy, like I was coked out of my mind and I almost died. And then Jesus like pulled me up right
32:37
before I died. And you know, this crazy conversion experience, there's just kind of regular old
32:40
Sunday night service, you know what I mean? But then the feeling waned, right? It waned right about
32:46
the time I got into Deuteronomy, right? So I start reading the Old Testament. I was like, this is
32:51
different than the New Testament, right? And I didn't really know I didn't have the maturity to know
32:57
the difference and why it was important and all those, the messianic prophecies that just didn't,
33:02
didn't really land with me, right? It was in 10th grade. But the feeling of being saved,
33:07
it started to wane, right? I shouldn't have that same feeling. I mean, just think about like any
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of you guys that have gone to church camps. So there's big ones here in Oklahoma, like Falls Creek,
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I know some of y'all have gone out to, you know, I think it's Gloriaetta out in New Mexico. There's
33:22
a bunch of these really, really big camps. And when you're there, you're going to like worship,
33:26
you know, two or three times a day and, and you're praying and, and you're, you're hanging out with
33:31
your friends and you're admitting crap that you've done wrong. And like, you know, you're crying and
33:35
you're doing all this other crazy stuff and you're having a ton of fun and, you know, everything's
33:38
just so, so elevated and so nuts. Like it just everything feels so awesome. But then you get home
33:45
and you promise yourself you're going to talk to all your friends about Jesus and you're going to,
33:50
you know, increase the, the size of your youth group 10 fold and all those different things. But,
33:55
you know, then it's Monday and, you know, your back's normal thing. You gotta go to practice.
34:00
You gotta go to school. And then it's, you know, a week or two goes by and then you kind of forget
34:05
even the words to some of the songs that you sang back at camp and, you know, you, you
34:09
stopped texting the, the people that you went to camp with more regularly or stopped writing them
34:13
letters or call them or whatever you did at that time. You got, you guys kind of get where I'm going.
34:18
It's like the feeling subsided. And so when I was in college, I had this buddy, buddy of mine named
34:24
Tyler and he worked in, in my building and he kind of was, you know, kind of my boss. And then, you
34:31
know, my boss's boss was above him. And so it was kind of like a mentor. It was a couple of years
34:35
older than I was. And, you know, one point I was like, you know, hey, I need your help on some stuff.
34:39
Like I just, I want to do some mentoring type thing. And I knew he was a good Christian guy,
34:43
played in a worship band and, and seemed to have some wisdom even for being, being a younger guy.
34:47
And, you know, he, he said some so profound to me that I've, that never forgotten up to this,
34:53
up to this day. And it was that, do I really want to base the biggest decision of my life on a feeling?
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And I was like, like, what are you talking about? Because leading up to that comment,
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I was telling him like, man, I don't know if I'm saved. And he's like, well, what do you mean?
35:08
I was like, well, I just don't feel saved. Like the feeling's not there. You know, that feeling of,
35:13
of Jesus being right there. And, you know, the feeling like I should raise my hands during worship
35:18
or whatever it is that y'all do or something like that. Just don't have that feeling. He's like,
35:22
Kyle, like, why would you base that on a feeling? He's like, feelings go up and down,
35:26
happiness, sadness, like, it's kind of all over the place. Why would you want to base your
35:30
eternity on a feeling? And that's stuck with me ever since. It's like, there's the feeling of being
35:36
saved. And then there's the reality of if you are not, if you've actually accepted Jesus.
35:41
And I guess the last thing I want to talk about here on the facts versus feeling part,
35:45
which is, you know, the feeling of distance from God versus the reality of God's presence.
35:52
I mean, there's the feeling that, you know, maybe I feel close to God or maybe I feel far away from
35:57
God, you know, something like that. But in reality, he's always here. Like that, that's my encouragement
36:03
to you guys. Like, this isn't my Joel Osteen moment, y'all. But it's just like, he's here all the time.
36:08
Like, I talk to Christians all the time. It's just like, man, God just feels so distant.
36:12
He feels so distant for me. It's like, well, have you tried talking to him?
36:16
Like, this isn't a hard equation. Like, everything around us was created by him.
36:21
Like, he's here, omniscient, omnipresent, all the other omni words that no one knows how to pronounce.
36:26
Like, guys, he's here. But again, it's facts versus feelings. And when we lean on the feeling,
36:32
we might drift even further away from God. Like, we might even distance ourselves a little bit more
36:38
inadvertently. Like, it's not something that we wanted to do, but it's something that happened
36:42
as opposed to resting in the reality, in the fact that God's presence is here. He's here now.
36:52
He's in this moment that we are saved, that we are his sons, that we are his daughters. Like,
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that we are loved by him, that we are made in his image. Those things are different.
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And man, I'm so glad those things are based on feelings, y'all.
37:07
I mean, just think about how many things do you not feel like doing, but you do them anyway,
37:11
because you're disciplined. Or because you know, the fact of you not doing that thing is worse
37:16
than the fact of you doing that thing, right? I mean, guys, I hope you're, I hope you're getting
37:24
the point here because this again, this isn't just a political podcast from a guy who aligns
37:28
on the on the political right. This is just one of those things we have to have facts in our lives.
37:33
We have to study the Bible and look for facts. We have to be able to stand up and defend ourselves.
37:38
We have to be able to give an apology. We have to be able to give an apologetic
37:42
for why we believe what we believe. We shouldn't, you know, feel intimidated when people challenge
37:47
our belief system, because we have facts on our side guys, because here's the thing. If Jesus
37:52
never lived, it creates more questions that can be answered. If Jesus didn't actually
37:59
die on the cross and then was resurrected three days later, it causes more questions than it answers.
38:04
Everything needs an answer. Do you have the answers?
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And this isn't my plea to you to, you know, drop what you're doing and go to seminary and study
38:13
apologetics and go debate people and try to be a part of Ravi Zacharias's crew or something like
38:18
that. But guys, to a certain degree, we should be able to give a reason why we believe what we believe.
38:22
And it can't be, well, I'm from Texas. And so I guess I'm a Christian. Like, you can't do that.
38:28
Like guys, I mean, dude, I live in the bellbuckle, the Bible belt. I'm in Oklahoma, but it's just like,
38:33
come on. That doesn't make you a Christian. I hear that nonsense all the time. Are you a Christian?
38:39
Well, I am from the south. What does that mean? What does that mean?
38:43
And guys, we just have to be facts based in what we're doing. I'm going to drive that point home
38:50
over and over. We have to be facts based on the things that we're talking about. It doesn't mean
38:54
we can't show emotion. It doesn't mean we can't have feelings. It doesn't mean that the Holy Spirit
38:58
can't move none of those things. But if our foundation is in fact, it's going to help us overall.
39:03
So I'll leave the point there because I think I've beaten it completely to death. But hopefully
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that landed with you guys. All right, guys, before we let you out of here, we're going to do a quick
39:10
resilience boost. As you know, by now, we are a men's ministry and our mission is cultivating
39:14
manly resilience. And we do that by providing content that forges spiritual, mental and physical
39:20
toughness. So today, we're going to work on that mental resilience. So a few videos that I wanted
39:24
to shoot out to you guys. One is obviously the video of Senator Lindsey Graham just eviscerating
39:29
the Senate panel. And so I know whenever you're listening to that audio, sometimes you didn't
39:33
know exactly who was talking to you. He's like, whoa, is he mad at Judge Kavanaugh? But he was
39:37
literally turning to his Democrat colleagues to his left and just going in on him. So it's worth
39:43
your time. It's absolutely worth your time to watch that. But there were a couple of other videos
39:47
that I thought would be important for you all to watch. The first is a video called Facts Don't
39:51
Care About Your Feelings. It's a Prager You video by Ben Shapiro. And you know, here's the thing
39:56
about Ben Shapiro and the next guy I'm going to talk about. I don't agree with everything that
40:00
they say or their tactics on everything. But I think a lot of the things that he brings up in
40:04
this very short video are very true in terms of the dichotomy between facts and feelings and how
40:09
important it is for us to operate in the realm of facts. So I thought that'd be important for you
40:13
all. And then a video that literally just came out yesterday is a video called rape culture is a myth
40:19
changed my mind. And so this is from the change my mind segment of the louder with Crowder Show
40:24
by Stephen Crowder. And let me go and say this right from the outset. I understand that Stephen
40:28
Crowder has done some controversial things. You know, he's kind of one of those guys that,
40:32
you know, he's a comedian. He's a right leaning comedian. And so sometimes he does the thing that
40:38
he says he detests, which is like, Oh, I'm going to put the clown mask on. And then I'm going to
40:42
take the clown mask off whenever I need to be serious. Like, you know, that type of thing,
40:46
which I don't really agree with. And there's been several things that he said that I don't really
40:49
agree with. There's several things that videos he's made that I don't necessarily agree with
40:53
the tone or the tenor. But that's not really the point about this one. The change my mind
40:57
segment that he did is something that started I think it may have been last year. But it's basically
41:02
long form discussions with people that completely disagree with his point of view on certain things.
41:07
So it'll it'll be on incredibly controversial topics. So it'll be about transgenderism or gun
41:14
by gun rights or something like that. But this one was actually about rape culture. And he did it
41:18
on the TCU campus. It's the second time I believe he was on the TCU campus. And I just I think it's
41:24
important for you to watch this video. It's fairly lengthy. So and you can bump up the speed to like
41:29
one and a half or two times speed. But just watch some of the people that sit down next to him. These
41:35
are college students and some of them just literally cannot handle their feelings. Like their feelings
41:40
and their emotions have completely overridden the parts of their brain that would help them be logical.
41:44
And just just look at how Stephen Crowder reacts to these people. And how he tries to have a civil
41:52
conversation trying to find some level of understanding or some common ground. And because
41:58
the thing is, is these videos should be the wave of the future. And I think to a certain degree,
42:03
they will be. I mean, look at podcasts, these long form discussions. I mean, three hour long
42:07
Jaco Willink and and Joe Rogan podcasts that people are just like eating up like candy. Like,
42:13
that's the way of the future because these these like 30 second or two minute long things on Fox
42:18
news or CNN or whatever. Like that's just not gonna work anymore. Because you try to say the most
42:22
extreme thing possible. So you can get clickbait later. Like it doesn't really help with a conversation.
42:27
So I think that would be an interesting thing for y'all to look at whenever we're looking at this
42:31
dichotomy between facts and feelings. And guys, one last thing real quick, do yourselves a favor
42:37
and be a good American and watch you some playoff baseball guys. It's the best time of the year.
42:42
It's October. It's the postseason. We've already had two game one 63s. We've had one wild card game
42:50
two couple of days ago, we got the Yankees and athletics literally playing as I'm recording
42:54
this right now. So I gotta go check that score. Guys, the playoffs are gonna be great. The American
42:58
League playoffs this year, it's gonna be a bloodbath. I mean, you got the Indians facing the Astros.
43:02
And then you got the winner of the Yankees and athletics playing the Red Sox. It's gonna be a
43:06
really, really incredible October. I mean, I just, this is the part where I kind of clear out my
43:11
evenings because I want to get there and watch these baseball games. So do yourself a big favor
43:16
here. Don't be a communist and actually watch yourself some baseball. All right. All right, guys,
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